Jaeger O’Meara

Started by Ricochet, November 11, 2015, 04:01:14 PM

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DaveElNacho

Quote from: MC on February 11, 2016, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 11, 2016, 02:02:27 PM
Never thought of it that way.

$622k for 180-220 points per week. Will not get that value anywhere else.

Rookie min $117k so only really have $505k to spend if trying to compare. Rookie averages say 65, so you need to find a a player who can average at minimum 115 for $505k, also won't find a player who could do that. Even though yes, the rookie will increase at price, let's say +$200k that amounts to $330-340k plus your initial premium of $600k. So to start your $100k-200k down, more so $200k. Probably won't make that money back as JOM/Crouch should both get to $450-500k. So then the question is, would you rather consistent scoring from two young but future elites, or a captain score and high inconsistentcy, as well as a saved trade. So for an extra $150-200k in my starting team, and we all say trades are worth that much, then I can't see myself not picking both if fit.

Plus who's not to say the rookie who looked good in NAB and plays Round 1 is dropped because well he's a rookie and JS is low. JOM & Crouch will both play every game if fit.

I think you're being a bit optimistic with your scoring predictions for the pair. Your minimum of 180 suggests 90 each, which I think is actually pretty optimistic (early on in the season) in itself. The top end of 220 means you expect Libba to match his best season and Crouch/JOM to exceed theirs by 10+ points, a year after a serious injury. I think by the mid-point of the season they will be lucky to combine for that 180.

When Libba averaged 110 he had Minson in his best season feeding it down his throat, who rucks at the Doggies now? Jordan Spud Roughead? For those who remember, when Minno had a stinker, so did Libba!

Wines at 520k is a fair/good chance to go for 110, meaning you need 70 from a rookie, which is certainly attaniable.

In summary, choosing one of these mid-priced blokes could work out to be the best decision of the year. If any one of the three stands out to the point where it would be stupid to avoid them, then i'll jump on with the rest. However, I can't foresee any of the three waltzing back into the AFL and destroying it straight away, meaning I will be avoiding the carnage as it stands. Choosing 3 would be absolute madness I think, two not much better.

I don't think it's fair to dismiss wines' risk. He had a pretty serious injury too. And your 110 prediction is optimistic too.. so I'd assume you're starting Wines. But that's the point. If you're optimistic about their output then it's great value. I just don't buy into the whole "but they won't be top 10 so why pick them?" argument.

MC

Quote from: DaveElNacho on February 11, 2016, 10:03:45 PM

If you're optimistic about their output then it's great value.

Ha, agreed! Excellent point :)
I've done some extensive research into the history of players returning from injury etc, hence why i've almost completely discounted Crouch, JOM and Libba. Of the three, if they were all fit and ready to go i'd probably consider Crouch over the other two for this year. JOM will be the best of the three in the long run though imo.

Anyway, good luck to you all regardless of what you decide  ;)

DaveElNacho

Quote from: MC on February 11, 2016, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: DaveElNacho on February 11, 2016, 10:03:45 PM

If you're optimistic about their output then it's great value.

Ha, agreed! Excellent point :)
I've done some extensive research into the history of players returning from injury etc, hence why i've almost completely discounted Crouch, JOM and Libba. Of the three, if they were all fit and ready to go i'd probably consider Crouch over the other two for this year. JOM will be the best of the three in the long run though imo.

Anyway, good luck to you all regardless of what you decide  ;)

For the record I agree with you. Not going to take that risk with all of them. For now at least ;)
Good luck to you too mate

iZander

Anyone got an update on o mearas recovery? Will he line up round 1?

Ringo

O'Meara is listed as indefinite with knee injury on the site.

powersuperkents

There's no way he will line up for Round 1 at this point  :-\

AaronKirk

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Quote from: iZander on March 21, 2016, 10:45:28 PM
Anyone got an update on o mearas recovery? Will he line up round 1?

Best case scenario from what I hear would be a return in around 6 weeks if all goes well.

More likely to be longer.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gold-coast/jaeger-omeara-turns-to-meditation-to-aid-recovery-from-knee-injury/news-story/6ac3d87e56117f6425b9be0133903f21

The article says NEAFL in round 3 or 4 as best case scenario but would play at least 3 NEAFL games before selection to the seniors