Teams that provide too many good picks

Started by TexR74, March 29, 2015, 11:15:35 PM

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TexR74

As I was going over my team, checking what bye everyone was playing, I noticed that I had FOUR picks from Melbourne (Lumumba, Brayshaw, Salem and Hogan. I also had Vandenberg for a long time before trading him out for other reasons.) This worried me not only because they all played the same bye, but because they all play for the same club, two problems arose in my head:
1. If something internally happens at Melbourne (unlikely, but still) potentially all 4 are affected.


2. They all play for Melbourne. The team that everyone ridicules for being so bad. I'm 99% sure they wont make top 12, let alone finals, so do all these losses affect their output.

And, as all of these players are reasonably popular picks (if not Brayshaw then Newton) I think that there are a few more people who have this problem. What is the solution? Potentially miss out on some of the best cash-makers/point scorers for 2015?
For everyone's convenience, I have listed (club by club) some of the most popular undervalued/cash cows for this year:

Adelaide: Van-Berlo, Dangerfield, Crouch (before his injury), Ellis-Yolme
TOTAL: 4 (maybe 3)
Brisbane: Rich, Leuenberger
TOTAL: 2
Carlton: Jaksch, Boekhorst, Judd (I hear a few people are jumping on to him), Cripps, Viojo-Rainbow, Thomas
TOTAL: 6
Collingwood: Brown, Swan, Karnezis, De Goey, Seedsman, Langdon, Freeman, Oxley
TOTAL: 8
Essendon: Edwards, Bellchambers, Laverde, Dalgleish (I'm not so sure about Essendon, with the ASADA verdict looming)
TOTAL: 4
Fremantle: Neale, Ibbotson, C. Pearce
TOTAL: 3
Gold Coast: Hallahan, Saad, Martin, Miller, Prestia, Kolodjashnij
TOTAL:6
Geelong: Smedts, Blease, Cockatoo, Clark
TOTAL:4
GWS: Steele, Griffen
TOTAL: 2
Hawthorn: Anderson
TOTAL:1
Melbourne: Salem, Vandenberg, Hogan, Brayshaw, Newton, Lumumba
TOTAL: 5
North Melbourne: Dumont, Macmillan, Wells, Tarrant, Ziebell, McDonald, Higgins, Swallow
TOTAL: 7
Port Adelaide: Wines, Krakouer, Clurey
TOTAL:3
Richmond: Menadue, McIntosh, Lambert, Cotchin
TOTAL: 4
St. Kilda: Newnes, Savage, Membrey, Goddard, Geary, Templeton, Lonie, Steven
TOTAL: 8
Sydney: Heeney, Mitchell, Hannebery
TOTAL: 3
Western Bulldogs: Bontempelli, Jong, Dalhaus, Biggs, Hamling, Macrae, Goodes, Daniel
TOTAL: 8
West Coast: Lycett, Naitnui, Lamb, Duggan, Sheed
TOTAL: 5

I did not include premos, which meant:
DEF:No-one over $450k
MID:No-one over $550k
RUC: No-one over $500k
FWD: No-one over $500k

I may have included someone i shouldn't have, or I may have missed someone. You may disagree with some of the selections, and that's fine, just reply letting me know why I should/shouldn't have included them>

So, in conclusion, does anyone think that we should try to spread out our value picks, even if it means missing out on a few better ones?
Love to hear your feed back.

Spite

Good initiative man.

However, I don't plan to have those Melbourne Rookies over the whole bye period, of course I will have traded them out already. I think most of our starting rookies won't be in our team by the byes...which kind of makes a lot of this redundant I'm sorry to say.

Big Mac

Just pick the best players in each postion - it doesn't matter what team they're from. 3 of the Melbourne players you listed are rookies - they will all be gone by round 13.

Your first point isn't even worth thinking about, far too unlikely. And your second point is nonsense as well. Meow likes to point it out all the time - there are no 'magic bonus points' given out for winning games.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Big  Mac on March 29, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
Just pick the best players in each postion - it doesn't matter what team they're from. 3 of the Melbourne players you listed are rookies - they will all be gone by round 13.

This

Quote from: Big  Mac on March 29, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
And your second point is nonsense as well. Meow likes to point it out all the time - there are no 'magic bonus points' given out for winning games.

There might not be bonus points, but I think the point he was getting at was that the opposition generally get more of the pill and a larger share of the 3300, which would be true

TexR74

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 30, 2015, 08:25:36 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on March 29, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
Just pick the best players in each postion - it doesn't matter what team they're from. 3 of the Melbourne players you listed are rookies - they will all be gone by round 13.

This

Quote from: Big  Mac on March 29, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
And your second point is nonsense as well. Meow likes to point it out all the time - there are no 'magic bonus points' given out for winning games.

There might not be bonus points, but I think the point he was getting at was that the opposition generally get more of the pill and a larger share of the 3300, which would be true

That's exactly what I meant, having the elite midfielders to get the ball to the forwards and the other players helps to get more of the 3300 to your side.

Footyrulz

Makes absolutely no difference whatsoever how many players you have from the same time.

They're not gonna score worse just because you have them!!

If if they will score poorly cause they play for Melbourne, then why would you pick any of them??

Big Mac

Quote from: TexR74 on March 30, 2015, 08:32:49 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 30, 2015, 08:25:36 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on March 29, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
Just pick the best players in each postion - it doesn't matter what team they're from. 3 of the Melbourne players you listed are rookies - they will all be gone by round 13.

This

Quote from: Big  Mac on March 29, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
And your second point is nonsense as well. Meow likes to point it out all the time - there are no 'magic bonus points' given out for winning games.

There might not be bonus points, but I think the point he was getting at was that the opposition generally get more of the pill and a larger share of the 3300, which would be true

That's exactly what I meant, having the elite midfielders to get the ball to the forwards and the other players helps to get more of the 3300 to your side.

That doesn't make sense though. Are you saying a player's output will be different in a win than in a loss? They'll get the same amount of points in both cases.

"Other players get more of the points to your side"? Those are the other players' points - If Lumumba dominates, Brayshaw won't get more SC points because Lumumba has a large share of SC points. Those SC points are Lumumba's.

TexR74

Quote from: Big  Mac on March 30, 2015, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: TexR74 on March 30, 2015, 08:32:49 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 30, 2015, 08:25:36 AM
Quote from: Big  Mac on March 29, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
Just pick the best players in each postion - it doesn't matter what team they're from. 3 of the Melbourne players you listed are rookies - they will all be gone by round 13.

This

Quote from: Big  Mac on March 29, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
And your second point is nonsense as well. Meow likes to point it out all the time - there are no 'magic bonus points' given out for winning games.

There might not be bonus points, but I think the point he was getting at was that the opposition generally get more of the pill and a larger share of the 3300, which would be true

That's exactly what I meant, having the elite midfielders to get the ball to the forwards and the other players helps to get more of the 3300 to your side.

That doesn't make sense though. Are you saying a player's output will be different in a win than in a loss? They'll get the same amount of points in both cases.

"Other players get more of the points to your side"? Those are the other players' points - If Lumumba dominates, Brayshaw won't get more SC points because Lumumba has a large share of SC points. Those SC points are Lumumba's.
Yeah, but lets take Melbourne as an example. If an elite team can keep the ball from going into the Demon's forward line too much, then how does someone like Hogan get his points? That's what I mean about being in a better team helps scoring.