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Essendon ASADA update

Started by Jroo, June 12, 2014, 06:27:11 PM

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nrich102

Surely it's a joke. 2 years of investigation by ASADA for no result. Bigger waste of time than Izzy Folau trying to play afl.

Mat0369

Quote from: Ricochet on March 31, 2015, 01:23:35 PM
Yeh thats what I said :)

Yeah I know  :P

Just figured I would write it out in black and white that not guilty was the best result possible today for it not to drag on. ASADA can try and appeal but they actually need sufficient evidence the higher up they go and they have nada

Ricochet

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 31, 2015, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 31, 2015, 01:23:35 PM
Yeh thats what I said :)

Yeah I know  :P

Just figured I would write it out in black and white that not guilty was the best result possible today for it not to drag on. ASADA can try and appeal but they actually need sufficient evidence the higher up they go and they have nada
ah ok all good.



btw is Kevin Sheedy a wizard? He's only been back at the club less than a month and he's made it all go away :P

j959

Quote from: Ricochet on March 31, 2015, 06:23:12 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 31, 2015, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 31, 2015, 01:23:35 PM
Yeh thats what I said :)

Yeah I know  :P

Just figured I would write it out in black and white that not guilty was the best result possible today for it not to drag on. ASADA can try and appeal but they actually need sufficient evidence the higher up they go and they have nada
ah ok all good.



btw is Kevin Sheedy a wizard? He's only been back at the club less than a month and he's made it all go away :P
ha, ha - lol!   ;)
got to keep your sense of humour with this sort of shower going on ...  :P   ;)

Barra13

Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on March 31, 2015, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on March 31, 2015, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on March 31, 2015, 03:18:25 PM
TB4 or some shower like that! Good for hair growth lol.. Mainly muscle healing, endurance and strength!
ahk cheers, but then I ask... why the flowering flower didn't they just say that 15 years ago or whenever this started

How bout you try reading this thread and not being so lazy?

All the info is there
I'd eat a bag of shower before I do that

I don't care at all, just thought I'd ask

I've been following the whole thing and I still don't know what they took, they don't even know what they took, that's the whole point.
you beauty, that's all I was looking for. up to date now. thanks mate. I can go back to not caring now 8)

although I do hope this is the end

Unfortunately this isn't the end. This is just the player side of things. There is still Hird and the club to be sorted out yet. There is also workcover/worksafe to step in and have their way.

Hird was suspended and fined

Essendon incurred the harshest penalties in football history.

What else do you want?

Yes, I believe he and the club were suspended and fined for bringing the game into disrepute, and rightly so. These substances were obviously bought on intent for consumption. As I posted above earlier, it is against the regulation to do so. Surely someone must be penalised for it? If not, what stops any other club doing the same thing?

blue

Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on March 31, 2015, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on March 31, 2015, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on March 31, 2015, 03:18:25 PM
TB4 or some shower like that! Good for hair growth lol.. Mainly muscle healing, endurance and strength!
ahk cheers, but then I ask... why the flowering flower didn't they just say that 15 years ago or whenever this started

How bout you try reading this thread and not being so lazy?

All the info is there
I'd eat a bag of shower before I do that

I don't care at all, just thought I'd ask

I've been following the whole thing and I still don't know what they took, they don't even know what they took, that's the whole point.
you beauty, that's all I was looking for. up to date now. thanks mate. I can go back to not caring now 8)

although I do hope this is the end

Unfortunately this isn't the end. This is just the player side of things. There is still Hird and the club to be sorted out yet. There is also workcover/worksafe to step in and have their way.

Hird was suspended and fined

Essendon incurred the harshest penalties in football history.

What else do you want?
If we could rename the club and banish them to Tasmania, I would be happy

Jukes


Drak

Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on March 31, 2015, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on March 31, 2015, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on March 31, 2015, 03:18:25 PM
TB4 or some shower like that! Good for hair growth lol.. Mainly muscle healing, endurance and strength!
ahk cheers, but then I ask... why the flowering flower didn't they just say that 15 years ago or whenever this started

How bout you try reading this thread and not being so lazy?

All the info is there
I'd eat a bag of shower before I do that

I don't care at all, just thought I'd ask

I've been following the whole thing and I still don't know what they took, they don't even know what they took, that's the whole point.
you beauty, that's all I was looking for. up to date now. thanks mate. I can go back to not caring now 8)

although I do hope this is the end

Unfortunately this isn't the end. This is just the player side of things. There is still Hird and the club to be sorted out yet. There is also workcover/worksafe to step in and have their way.

Hird was suspended and fined

Essendon incurred the harshest penalties in football history.

What else do you want?

Yes, I believe he and the club were suspended and fined for bringing the game into disrepute, and rightly so. These substances were obviously bought on intent for consumption. As I posted above earlier, it is against the regulation to do so. Surely someone must be penalised for it? If not, what stops any other club doing the same thing?

They have just been cleared of the Thymosin Beta 4.

The club and Hird were suspended and fined for Governance practices and bringing the game in to disrepute.

Barra13

Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on March 31, 2015, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on March 31, 2015, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on March 31, 2015, 03:18:25 PM
TB4 or some shower like that! Good for hair growth lol.. Mainly muscle healing, endurance and strength!
ahk cheers, but then I ask... why the flowering flower didn't they just say that 15 years ago or whenever this started

How bout you try reading this thread and not being so lazy?

All the info is there
I'd eat a bag of shower before I do that

I don't care at all, just thought I'd ask

I've been following the whole thing and I still don't know what they took, they don't even know what they took, that's the whole point.
you beauty, that's all I was looking for. up to date now. thanks mate. I can go back to not caring now 8)

although I do hope this is the end

Unfortunately this isn't the end. This is just the player side of things. There is still Hird and the club to be sorted out yet. There is also workcover/worksafe to step in and have their way.

Hird was suspended and fined

Essendon incurred the harshest penalties in football history.

What else do you want?

Yes, I believe he and the club were suspended and fined for bringing the game into disrepute, and rightly so. These substances were obviously bought on intent for consumption. As I posted above earlier, it is against the regulation to do so. Surely someone must be penalised for it? If not, what stops any other club doing the same thing?

They have just been cleared of the Thymosin Beta 4.

The club and Hird were suspended and fined for Governance practices and bringing the game in to disrepute.

I haven't read anywhere saying that they have been cleared of TB4. This is the statement that I have seen. Now I may be reading it wrong, but I take it as there wasn't substantial evidence that the players were administered TB4. It doesn't say that they didn't buy the stuff to make TB4 because there is evidence there to support that.


Jukes

Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on March 31, 2015, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on March 31, 2015, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on March 31, 2015, 03:18:25 PM
TB4 or some shower like that! Good for hair growth lol.. Mainly muscle healing, endurance and strength!
ahk cheers, but then I ask... why the flowering flower didn't they just say that 15 years ago or whenever this started

How bout you try reading this thread and not being so lazy?

All the info is there
I'd eat a bag of shower before I do that

I don't care at all, just thought I'd ask

I've been following the whole thing and I still don't know what they took, they don't even know what they took, that's the whole point.
you beauty, that's all I was looking for. up to date now. thanks mate. I can go back to not caring now 8)

although I do hope this is the end

Unfortunately this isn't the end. This is just the player side of things. There is still Hird and the club to be sorted out yet. There is also workcover/worksafe to step in and have their way.

Hird was suspended and fined

Essendon incurred the harshest penalties in football history.

What else do you want?

Yes, I believe he and the club were suspended and fined for bringing the game into disrepute, and rightly so. These substances were obviously bought on intent for consumption. As I posted above earlier, it is against the regulation to do so. Surely someone must be penalised for it? If not, what stops any other club doing the same thing?

11 other clubs did have systems very similar if not more involved than the dons but shredded all evidence when we self-reported. Cats, hawks and eagles allegedly three of them.

Drak

Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on March 31, 2015, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on March 31, 2015, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on March 31, 2015, 03:18:25 PM
TB4 or some shower like that! Good for hair growth lol.. Mainly muscle healing, endurance and strength!
ahk cheers, but then I ask... why the flowering flower didn't they just say that 15 years ago or whenever this started

How bout you try reading this thread and not being so lazy?

All the info is there
I'd eat a bag of shower before I do that

I don't care at all, just thought I'd ask

I've been following the whole thing and I still don't know what they took, they don't even know what they took, that's the whole point.
you beauty, that's all I was looking for. up to date now. thanks mate. I can go back to not caring now 8)

although I do hope this is the end

Unfortunately this isn't the end. This is just the player side of things. There is still Hird and the club to be sorted out yet. There is also workcover/worksafe to step in and have their way.

Hird was suspended and fined

Essendon incurred the harshest penalties in football history.

What else do you want?

Yes, I believe he and the club were suspended and fined for bringing the game into disrepute, and rightly so. These substances were obviously bought on intent for consumption. As I posted above earlier, it is against the regulation to do so. Surely someone must be penalised for it? If not, what stops any other club doing the same thing?

They have just been cleared of the Thymosin Beta 4.

The club and Hird were suspended and fined for Governance practices and bringing the game in to disrepute.

I haven't read anywhere saying that they have been cleared of TB4. This is the statement that I have seen. Now I may be reading it wrong, but I take it as there wasn't substantial evidence that the players were administered TB4. It doesn't say that they didn't buy the stuff to make TB4 because there is evidence there to support that.



This case was whether 34 Essendon players were guilty of the use of Thymosin beta 4.

The verdict was not guilty.

The document you linked is the same sentence, but in context of the tribunal hearing.

H1bb3i2d

Quote from: Bane on March 31, 2015, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on March 31, 2015, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on March 31, 2015, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on March 31, 2015, 03:18:25 PM
TB4 or some shower like that! Good for hair growth lol.. Mainly muscle healing, endurance and strength!
ahk cheers, but then I ask... why the flowering flower didn't they just say that 15 years ago or whenever this started

How bout you try reading this thread and not being so lazy?

All the info is there
I'd eat a bag of shower before I do that

I don't care at all, just thought I'd ask

I've been following the whole thing and I still don't know what they took, they don't even know what they took, that's the whole point.
you beauty, that's all I was looking for. up to date now. thanks mate. I can go back to not caring now 8)

although I do hope this is the end

Unfortunately this isn't the end. This is just the player side of things. There is still Hird and the club to be sorted out yet. There is also workcover/worksafe to step in and have their way.

Hird was suspended and fined

Essendon incurred the harshest penalties in football history.

What else do you want?

Yes, I believe he and the club were suspended and fined for bringing the game into disrepute, and rightly so. These substances were obviously bought on intent for consumption. As I posted above earlier, it is against the regulation to do so. Surely someone must be penalised for it? If not, what stops any other club doing the same thing?

11 other clubs did have systems very similar if not more involved than the dons but shredded all evidence when we self-reported. Cats, hawks and eagles allegedly three of them.

I find it hard to believe anyone would keep records of something illegal in the first place.

It's probably as legitimate a claim as the good old Mexican drug the Bombers boys were given, LOL. Honestly, after 2 years of ridiculous journalism, it's best to not believe any of it until there is substantial evidence to back it. Have we not yet learnt that lesson?

Jukes

Quote from: H1bb3i2d on March 31, 2015, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: Bane on March 31, 2015, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on March 31, 2015, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on March 31, 2015, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on March 31, 2015, 03:18:25 PM
TB4 or some shower like that! Good for hair growth lol.. Mainly muscle healing, endurance and strength!
ahk cheers, but then I ask... why the flowering flower didn't they just say that 15 years ago or whenever this started

How bout you try reading this thread and not being so lazy?

All the info is there
I'd eat a bag of shower before I do that

I don't care at all, just thought I'd ask

I've been following the whole thing and I still don't know what they took, they don't even know what they took, that's the whole point.
you beauty, that's all I was looking for. up to date now. thanks mate. I can go back to not caring now 8)

although I do hope this is the end

Unfortunately this isn't the end. This is just the player side of things. There is still Hird and the club to be sorted out yet. There is also workcover/worksafe to step in and have their way.

Hird was suspended and fined

Essendon incurred the harshest penalties in football history.

What else do you want?

Yes, I believe he and the club were suspended and fined for bringing the game into disrepute, and rightly so. These substances were obviously bought on intent for consumption. As I posted above earlier, it is against the regulation to do so. Surely someone must be penalised for it? If not, what stops any other club doing the same thing?

11 other clubs did have systems very similar if not more involved than the dons but shredded all evidence when we self-reported. Cats, hawks and eagles allegedly three of them.

I find it hard to believe anyone would keep records of something illegal in the first place.

It's probably as legitimate a claim as the good old Mexican drug the Bombers boys were given, LOL. Honestly, after 2 years of ridiculous journalism, it's best to not believe any of it until there is substantial evidence to back it. Have we not yet learnt that lesson?

t'was a figure of speech - destroyed probably would've been the better word to use. Get rid of it.

The_Captain

Quote from: Bane on March 31, 2015, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: Drak on March 31, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Barra13 on March 31, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: silloc on March 31, 2015, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: bowyanger on March 31, 2015, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on March 31, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on March 31, 2015, 03:18:25 PM
TB4 or some shower like that! Good for hair growth lol.. Mainly muscle healing, endurance and strength!
ahk cheers, but then I ask... why the flowering flower didn't they just say that 15 years ago or whenever this started

How bout you try reading this thread and not being so lazy?

All the info is there
I'd eat a bag of shower before I do that

I don't care at all, just thought I'd ask

I've been following the whole thing and I still don't know what they took, they don't even know what they took, that's the whole point.
you beauty, that's all I was looking for. up to date now. thanks mate. I can go back to not caring now 8)

although I do hope this is the end

Unfortunately this isn't the end. This is just the player side of things. There is still Hird and the club to be sorted out yet. There is also workcover/worksafe to step in and have their way.

Hird was suspended and fined

Essendon incurred the harshest penalties in football history.

What else do you want?

Yes, I believe he and the club were suspended and fined for bringing the game into disrepute, and rightly so. These substances were obviously bought on intent for consumption. As I posted above earlier, it is against the regulation to do so. Surely someone must be penalised for it? If not, what stops any other club doing the same thing?

11 other clubs did have systems very similar if not more involved than the dons but shredded all evidence when we self-reported. Cats, hawks and eagles allegedly three of them.

Typical Essendon supporter. Trying to pin in on other clubs when they are the guilty ones. You have any proof of these accusations?. Cheats ! Only ever played good football on the juice!