First Team attempt ... please rate and comment for me!!!

arbel · February 20, 2015, 02:54:36 PM

BACKS: N Melceski, K Simpson, L Hodge, S Hurn, S Edwards, H Goddard (M Fuller, D Viojo-Rainbow)
MIDS: S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, J Selwood, M Priddis, D Rich, N Vanberlo, I Heeney, N Freeman (N Krakour, B Boekhorst, K Lambert)
RUCKS: A Sandilands, N Naitanui (M Cox)
FWDS: L Franklin, D Martin, J Roughead, K Tippett, M Clark, J Hogan (J Laverde, J Steele)

CASH: $31,100

Rookies as always will be decided on closer to round 1 and after watching nab cup.
Let me know what you all think .... cheers!!

BigMac_93 · February 20, 2015, 08:59:49 PM

Backline rookies are looking a bit thin this year so I think its risky to have 2 rookies on the field down back.
Midfield looks rather strong but maybe you could downgrade Rick to a cheaper rookie in order to upgrade your defence.
No Ablett? You will be kicking yourself if he scores 130-140 every week and you dont have him.
Rucks are solid.
Too man key forwards for my liking in your forward line, maybe look at Swan/Goddard/Deledio etc instead of one of Roughy or Tippett.

bowyanger · February 20, 2015, 09:47:22 PM

rule # 21976 that many a SC veteran has learnt the hard way

Do not under any circumstances take any notice of what happens in NAB cup

just sayin

Oh...good team BTW...all viable options with great scoring potential this year IMO....I like Hodge Priddis Roughy & Tippett as outside the square consistant scores or increase in PPG

Maybe Hodge would get rested though (fake injury incoming to not upset fans after pre planning for 6 months going to see him play and he doesn't show up)...look elsewhere - Hawks have that luxury

Actually...don't get any Hawks player..theyre coaching staff are cunning buggers that would rest everyone / fake an injury to keep the hunger up for the fringe players which pushes the best 22 to keep at the top of their game....
Then Hawks have such a team orientated 1% style of play that is not rewarded from champion data...Sheppard's, hard chasing, intercepts, pressure acts & filling space etc

Hawks have a full bill of health...only start considering them when they get 4 or 5 "injuries" to "the best 22"

Hawthorns talent pool is so evenly spread because they are so team orientated which impacts PPG potential for any individual on a consistant basis

They are really well drilled now

Guess which team I support and how many beers Ive had whilst typing this?

God I wish footy was on right now instead of having no friends & typing this bollox to no one...

40 more days...

Cmon Easter Monday already

cuz_crew · February 20, 2015, 10:32:14 PM

by far the most stupid post i have ever read on this forum and that is saying something.

Quote from: bowyanger on February 20, 2015, 09:47:22 PM
rule # 21976 that many a SC veteran has learnt the hard way

Do not under any circumstances take any notice of what happens in NAB cup

just sayin

Oh...good team BTW...all viable options with great scoring potential this year IMO....I like Hodge Priddis Roughy & Tippett as outside the square consistant scores or increase in PPG

Maybe Hodge would get rested though (fake injury incoming to not upset fans after pre planning for 6 months going to see him play and he doesn't show up)...look elsewhere - Hawks have that luxury

Actually...don't get any Hawks player..theyre coaching staff are cunning buggers that would rest everyone / fake an injury to keep the hunger up for the fringe players which pushes the best 22 to keep at the top of their game....
Then Hawks have such a team orientated 1% style of play that is not rewarded from champion data...Sheppard's, hard chasing, intercepts, pressure acts & filling space etc

Hawks have a full bill of health...only start considering them when they get 4 or 5 "injuries" to "the best 22"

Hawthorns talent pool is so evenly spread because they are so team orientated which impacts PPG potential for any individual on a consistant basis

They are really well drilled now

Guess which team I support and how many beers Ive had whilst typing this?

God I wish footy was on right now instead of having no friends & typing this bollox to no one...

40 more days...

Cmon Easter Monday already

bowyanger · February 20, 2015, 10:40:47 PM

Quote from: cuz_crew on February 20, 2015, 10:32:14 PM
by far the most stupid post i have ever read on this forum and that is saying something.

Quote from: bowyanger on February 20, 2015, 09:47:22 PM
rule # 21976 that many a SC veteran has learnt the hard way

Do not under any circumstances take any notice of what happens in NAB cup

just sayin

Oh...good team BTW...all viable options with great scoring potential this year IMO....I like Hodge Priddis Roughy & Tippett as outside the square consistant scores or increase in PPG

Maybe Hodge would get rested though (fake injury incoming to not upset fans after pre planning for 6 months going to see him play and he doesn't show up)...look elsewhere - Hawks have that luxury

Actually...don't get any Hawks player..theyre coaching staff are cunning buggers that would rest everyone / fake an injury to keep the hunger up for the fringe players which pushes the best 22 to keep at the top of their game....
Then Hawks have such a team orientated 1% style of play that is not rewarded from champion data...Sheppard's, hard chasing, intercepts, pressure acts & filling space etc

Hawks have a full bill of health...only start considering them when they get 4 or 5 "injuries" to "the best 22"

Hawthorns talent pool is so evenly spread because they are so team orientated which impacts PPG potential for any individual on a consistant basis

They are really well drilled now

Guess which team I support and how many beers Ive had whilst typing this?

God I wish footy was on right now instead of having no friends & typing this bollox to no one...

40 more days...

Cmon Easter Monday already

It says your new around here

aussied · February 21, 2015, 10:49:54 AM

Think sandilands will not benefit from the new hitout rules. but will be good to to see nab matches how he scores.

barj · February 23, 2015, 12:37:48 PM

Quote from: arbel on February 20, 2015, 02:54:36 PM
BACKS: N Melceski, K Simpson, L Hodge, S Hurn, S Edwards, H Goddard (M Fuller, D Viojo-Rainbow)
MIDS: S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, J Selwood, M Priddis, D Rich, N Vanberlo, I Heeney, N Freeman (N Krakour, B Boekhorst, K Lambert)
RUCKS: A Sandilands, N Naitanui (M Cox)
FWDS: L Franklin, D Martin, J Roughead, K Tippett, M Clark, J Hogan (J Laverde, J Steele)

CASH: $31,100

Rookies as always will be decided on closer to round 1 and after watching nab cup.
Let me know what you all think .... cheers!!

Not a fan of Hodge in defence.
I dont think Sandi is a great pick - will be hurt by the new scoring and better value elsewhere.
Too many KPP in the forward line - get rid of roughy and tippet
Mids look good

arbel · February 23, 2015, 04:05:19 PM

Ok have taken some comments on board and so have made a few modifications and come up with this current team setout. Leaves me with more cash and a little happier with some picks. Any more thoughts would be appreciated.

BACKS: N Melceski, K Simpson, S Fisher, S Hurn, S Edwards, H Goddard (M Fuller, D Viojo-Rainbow)
MIDS: S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, J Selwood, M Priddis, D Rich, N Vanberlo, I Heeney, N Freeman (N Krakour, B Boekhorst, K Lambert)
RUCKS: A Sandilands, N Naitanui (M Cox)
FWDS: L Franklin, D Martin, D. Swan, K Tippett, M Clark, J Hogan (M. Newman, J Steele)

CASH: $131,600

I want to stick with Tippett mainly because of the new rule with 2 on 1 marking contests, think that a few key forwards who normally get stuck with 2 on 1's might get a few more cheap frees...
Also have been told by a few that Sandi will be troubled by the new scoring/rules! Can anyone shed light on that for me please. HO to advantage is worth 5 points which for Sandi is money for jam. What am I missing?????

Ringo · February 23, 2015, 04:22:08 PM

To answer your query on Sandi a lot of teams realise they will not get first touch so work on nullifying the hit out hence a lower stat in H/o to advantage as it is not clean ball.

If Keen on Tippett I would look at upgrading Franklin to another Prem. Would look at also with cash left upgrading one of Fisher, Hurn or Edwards in defence, Always your decision and gwyg.

Money Shot · February 23, 2015, 06:37:20 PM

Great side Sandi to Goldy is the only change I would do.
(really hope 4 rookie defenders get up)
Would love your thoughts on my team.

frenzy · February 27, 2015, 09:48:24 PM

Overall, this team you've selected is a good starting point for a 1st attempt? However would like to point out some glaring discrepancies.
Now anybody with half a clue knows Rookies are subjected to round one team selections, so won't comment on yours other than to say some will need promotion and some are injured. ( but you know this already, yeah? )

Def; Too many vetrans coming to an end of their careers or returning from injury and your paying way overs for Eski. Who knows how he'll go at his new club. Hurn and Edwards are awkward mid priced nothing picks that won't finish anywhere near the top 10 defenders, so why ? pay 450k+ for them.

Mids; Supercoach 101: Thou shall always start with GAJ. Plenty have tryed, none succeeded. Priddis will need another stella season to finish top 10 mids. Rich and Vanberlo are more awkward priced returning from injury players, with Rich lucky to break into the team. Vanberlo has better JS, but you'd be better off with more Rookies. ( And you already have players in mind, cos you've been following FanFooty all summer, Yeah? ) Heeney's injured and Krakouer needs promotion.

Ruck; What's Sandilands, 33years, the end is near. Nic Nat walk's around with a big red cross above him and is already injured. You have no coverage.

Forw: Tippett's another mid priced nothing pick and you wanna keep him on the off chance he gets a couple of free kicks, goodluck with that champ.

Summary; An awkward mid priced vetrans team. You need to put some effort in over the summer months. 3/10 atbest

arbel · March 06, 2015, 05:22:16 PM

A bit more tinkering and have now got the following team. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

BACKS: K Simpson, S. Burgoyne, S Fisher, S Hurn, J Kolodjashnij, H Goddard (J Hamling, D Viojo-Rainbow)
MIDS: S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, J Selwood, M Priddis, D Rich, N Vanberlo, J Anderson, N Freeman (C Ellis-Yolman, B Boekhorst, K Lambert)
RUCKS: T Goldstein, N Naitanui (M Cox)
FWDS: B. Goddard, L Franklin, D Martin, D. Swan, M Clark, J Hogan (P. Karnezis, J Steele)

CASH: $23,700

Ok so I know my backs have 4 rookies, if none come up to play then I'll downgrade rich to a rookies and maybe a fwd to salem to free up cash to upgrade the backs.

All other lines i'm happy with, was also toying with downgrading goldy to leuy to be able to get ablett in there but not sure the risks with leuy is worth it???

bowyanger · March 06, 2015, 07:42:04 PM

Quote from: arbel on March 06, 2015, 05:22:16 PM
A bit more tinkering and have now got the following team. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

BACKS: K Simpson, S. Burgoyne, S Fisher, S Hurn, J Kolodjashnij, H Goddard (J Hamling, D Viojo-Rainbow)
MIDS: S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, J Selwood, M Priddis, D Rich, N Vanberlo, J Anderson, N Freeman (C Ellis-Yolman, B Boekhorst, K Lambert)
RUCKS: T Goldstein, N Naitanui (M Cox)
FWDS: B. Goddard, L Franklin, D Martin, D. Swan, M Clark, J Hogan (P. Karnezis, J Steele)

CASH: $23,700

Ok so I know my backs have 4 rookies, if none come up to play then I'll downgrade rich to a rookies and maybe a fwd to salem to free up cash to upgrade the backs.

All other lines i'm happy with, was also toying with downgrading goldy to leuy to be able to get ablett in there but not sure the risks with leuy is worth it???

Nice squad but to be super picky:

Expect Burgoyne to be rested throughout the year...same as Hodge as mentioned previously..also has lots of competition for PPG...avoid Hawks players ..(Ruffnuts maybe an exception...JLewis looks to be in career best form)

Fyfe has had hamstring (supposedly - probably a fib though) and shoulder issues this pre season - Id look for a player of that calibre you know has had a 100% uninterrupted pre season...

Starting without Ablett will give you grief for the 8 weeks of trading it will take to get him in..Ablett is a must have IMO...Swapping Fyfe to Ablett after downgrading Burgoyne to Geary or Valastuin might be the go

hawkboy80 · March 06, 2015, 07:54:52 PM

Quote from: bowyanger on February 20, 2015, 10:40:47 PM
Quote from: cuz_crew on February 20, 2015, 10:32:14 PM
by far the most stupid post i have ever read on this forum and that is saying something.

Quote from: bowyanger on February 20, 2015, 09:47:22 PM
rule # 21976 that many a SC veteran has learnt the hard way

Do not under any circumstances take any notice of what happens in NAB cup

just sayin

Oh...good team BTW...all viable options with great scoring potential this year IMO....I like Hodge Priddis Roughy & Tippett as outside the square consistant scores or increase in PPG

Maybe Hodge would get rested though (fake injury incoming to not upset fans after pre planning for 6 months going to see him play and he doesn't show up)...look elsewhere - Hawks have that luxury

Actually...don't get any Hawks player..theyre coaching staff are cunning buggers that would rest everyone / fake an injury to keep the hunger up for the fringe players which pushes the best 22 to keep at the top of their game....
Then Hawks have such a team orientated 1% style of play that is not rewarded from champion data...Sheppard's, hard chasing, intercepts, pressure acts & filling space etc

Hawks have a full bill of health...only start considering them when they get 4 or 5 "injuries" to "the best 22"

Hawthorns talent pool is so evenly spread because they are so team orientated which impacts PPG potential for any individual on a consistant basis

They are really well drilled now

Guess which team I support and how many beers Ive had whilst typing this?

God I wish footy was on right now instead of having no friends & typing this bollox to no one...

40 more days...

Cmon Easter Monday already

It says your new around here

+1

arbel · March 24, 2015, 01:59:36 PM

Ok so after much chopping/changing etc I think I can settle on my team at least until R1 teams are announced.

DEF: Simpson, Burgoyne, Hurn, Newnes, Higgins, Saad ........ McKintosh, Goddard
MIDS: Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe, Selwood, Cripps, Cockatoo, Anderson, Ellis-Yoleman ........ Heeney, Lambert, Boekhorst
RUCKS: Goldy, NicNat ........ Cox
FWDS: Gray, Martin, Swan, Salem, Clark, Karnezis ........ Steele, Hogan

$97400 left.

My only concerns are obviously the Higgins factor if he stays fit and round 1 rookie defender selections.
Not sure on ablett yet as that shoulder has been an issue, can go him to JPK/Priddis etc but it is ablett though and a few of the FWD rookies could be potential vests.
Overall I'm pretty happy to sit and wait but please any info/feedback/criticism would be good!