Ambrose injury update

Started by HotTiges, April 09, 2014, 11:00:16 AM

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FonFatty

Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2014, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 09, 2014, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on April 09, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Once Belly and Ryder are back in the side I cannot see him get a game.

I struggle to see how Belly will be the determining influence on Ambrose's JS, he's a 194cm mobile forward in the mould of Crameri, a player who incidentally played alongside Ryder & Belly on many occasions. His fate will be in his own hands, if he performs like he did against the Hawks he will stay.
Belly will impact Ambrose's JS because Belly was primed to play more fwd than ruck this year. With Belly, Carlisle and Daniher down fwd there just won't be enough room for another tall fwd. And Bomber is pretty strong in his stance in playing Carlisle fwd with Hurley down back.
Too top heavy there, they need a player like Ambrose in their forward line, someone who can play both tall and small, buddylike.

kilbluff1985

Quote from: FonFatty on April 09, 2014, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2014, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 09, 2014, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on April 09, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Once Belly and Ryder are back in the side I cannot see him get a game.

I struggle to see how Belly will be the determining influence on Ambrose's JS, he's a 194cm mobile forward in the mould of Crameri, a player who incidentally played alongside Ryder & Belly on many occasions. His fate will be in his own hands, if he performs like he did against the Hawks he will stay.
Belly will impact Ambrose's JS because Belly was primed to play more fwd than ruck this year. With Belly, Carlisle and Daniher down fwd there just won't be enough room for another tall fwd. And Bomber is pretty strong in his stance in playing Carlisle fwd with Hurley down back.
Too top heavy there, they need a player like Ambrose in their forward line, someone who can play both tall and small, buddylike.

wont be enough room for him with Belly and Ryder in the team and Kommer is a lock if and when fit

best forward line is something like


Kommer, Carlisle, Resting mid/ruck
Winderlich, Daniher, Chapman

AaronKirk

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 09, 2014, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: FonFatty on April 09, 2014, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2014, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 09, 2014, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on April 09, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Once Belly and Ryder are back in the side I cannot see him get a game.

I struggle to see how Belly will be the determining influence on Ambrose's JS, he's a 194cm mobile forward in the mould of Crameri, a player who incidentally played alongside Ryder & Belly on many occasions. His fate will be in his own hands, if he performs like he did against the Hawks he will stay.
Belly will impact Ambrose's JS because Belly was primed to play more fwd than ruck this year. With Belly, Carlisle and Daniher down fwd there just won't be enough room for another tall fwd. And Bomber is pretty strong in his stance in playing Carlisle fwd with Hurley down back.
Too top heavy there, they need a player like Ambrose in their forward line, someone who can play both tall and small, buddylike.

wont be enough room for him with Belly and Ryder in the team and Kommer is a lock if and when fit

best forward line is something like


Kommer, Carlisle, Resting mid/ruck
Winderlich, Daniher, Chapman

Cannot see Kommer coming in for Hardingham. Hardingham is playing that small/tall role for us. Did an excellent job against Carlton. Our Main forward 6 would be Ryder/Belly, Daniher, Carlisle, Hardingham, Winderlich and Chapman with both Goddard and Watson resting forward at times. Who does Ambrose replace?

kilbluff1985

i'd have Kommer over Hardingham any day

FonFatty

Quote from: AaronKirk on April 09, 2014, 12:43:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 09, 2014, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: FonFatty on April 09, 2014, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 09, 2014, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 09, 2014, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on April 09, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Once Belly and Ryder are back in the side I cannot see him get a game.

I struggle to see how Belly will be the determining influence on Ambrose's JS, he's a 194cm mobile forward in the mould of Crameri, a player who incidentally played alongside Ryder & Belly on many occasions. His fate will be in his own hands, if he performs like he did against the Hawks he will stay.
Belly will impact Ambrose's JS because Belly was primed to play more fwd than ruck this year. With Belly, Carlisle and Daniher down fwd there just won't be enough room for another tall fwd. And Bomber is pretty strong in his stance in playing Carlisle fwd with Hurley down back.
Too top heavy there, they need a player like Ambrose in their forward line, someone who can play both tall and small, buddylike.

wont be enough room for him with Belly and Ryder in the team and Kommer is a lock if and when fit

best forward line is something like


Kommer, Carlisle, Resting mid/ruck
Winderlich, Daniher, Chapman

Cannot see Kommer coming in for Hardingham. Hardingham is playing that small/tall role for us. Did an excellent job against Carlton. Our Main forward 6 would be Ryder/Belly, Daniher, Carlisle, Hardingham, Winderlich and Chapman with both Goddard and Watson resting forward at times. Who does Ambrose replace?
Valid point, personally I'd have winderlich on a wing for run and carry, kommer I am not sure about, he's more of a utility that can be used anywhere, I just think Ambrose is your modern forward, someone that can go that extra yard to put some pressure on the back man, someone who can present down the wing all night and create forward thrusts. IMO he is Essendon's version of Jack Gunston. Could be wrong though.

kilbluff1985

Kommer the type of player Bomber loves also i'm not sure who he comes in for bet he is best 22 for sure

Frankfaust1


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ronl

Hardingham was groomed for the forward line this year, when Kommer comes back he'll plug holes around the ground...that's IF he can get a game. Who will he displace?  Not an easy side to get into these days.   

Typhnn

Kommer is good at putting forward pressure on, but I don't think he's in the best 22 and also he doesn't really kick any goals...!!

Merrett's/winderlich/chapman  all way ahead of him..!!

Hardingham/Ambrose will play similar roles when Bellchamber comes back...!! 

roo boys!

Traded him in last round, uh oh!  :-[