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How'd I know that you'd be the one to reply mate, you've been absolutely phenomenal all throughout this topic, can't thank you enough. I think that's at least 4-5 cheers that I've issued to this stage haha

Like you mentioned with Danger out I'll probably have to trade Watson this week, could afford Griffen but not a lot of cash left and would really prefer to wait for him to get back to some good form as you said him returning to 2012 form (albeit not horrible form, but better options) could be an issue along with that massive breakeven playing the waiting game would make sense.

Unfortunately it just so turns out that I have a massive league game this week which will probably end up deciding the top 4, if I win I'll just about cement a spot in the top 2 but if I lose will drop down to 5th pending other results.

For this reason Selwood is seriously tempting me...still virtually the same price as Watson, and his form line is incredible:

137, bye, 135, 54 (Crowley), 151, 133

That would then leave me with 180k in the bank still, and Nicholls going close to securing the R2 spot all year means I'm tempted to use that coin to upgrade Hartlett to either Shaw (80k left for injury trades) or Ibbo (120k left)

Which would leave my team looking like:

Def: Goddard, Gibbs, Shaw/Ibbo, Hibberd, McKenzie, Goodes (Wilson, Oxley)
Mid: Ablett, Pendles, Swan, Selwood, JPK, Cotchin, Priddis, Mitchell (Dangerfield, Martin)
Ruc: Goldstein, Nicholls (Gorringe, McBean)
Fwd: Stevie J, Walker, NicNat, Rocky, Cox, JJK (Staker, Burbury)

3 trades, either $80k or $120k in the bank.

Haha, all good mate it's been a good topic to discuss! Thanks a heap, i'll give you a few for that!

Well the massive league game is an obvious must win then, so yes go all out and get Selwood by all means. No point in waiting around for Griffen to drop if you don't have the time. Selwood is a good choice yes, and yes is in good form. Has a good run of games at Simonds Stadium where they all rack it up, and has a pretty good draw aswell. Only thing against him is the chances of him being rested in crucial games come finals. He hasn't had one yet, so I'd be watchful for that.

I couldn't tell you who to pick out of Ibbo/Shaw to be honest, both great choices! Ibbo is $40k cheaper and has a better  draw but isn't proven. Heater has a tougher draw but is proven, and will score more points but might have the one off game between now and then.

You're in a good position now, so hold your trades until finals. I'm itching to trade but those trades will become invaluable when you're stuck come Round 22-23.

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Yeah exactly, Selwood's run home is tempting especially with the games at Kardinia Park Shell Stadium Baytec Stadium Skilled Stadium Simons Stadium, he should finish the year with a bang.

The resting is always a concern with Geelong's players, hence why I've avoided Bartel this year, but hopefully if that does eventuate Mitchell is still pumping out 100s on the bench. Worse comes to worst I use one of my 3 remaining trades (praying for minimal LTIs) to sideway Selwood if he misses Rd 24.

Will 3 trades be enough for the run home, I think the Hartlett trade is worth it but open to discussion surrounding that one as well. Shaw vs Ibbo is one that I can decide later on in the week, hopefully can't go wrong either way. Just have to commit to offloading Hartlett.

Hanley another option with his good run home but the other two a little bit safer IMO and Hanley wasn't actually playing all that well until his last quarter to get the Lions over the line (:()

But like I said, the main issue at this stage is "Is trading Hartlett to a more solid premo worth it with 4 trades remaining?" and to that I say "yes" at the moment.

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Yeah exactly, Selwood's run home is tempting especially with the games at Kardinia Park Shell Stadium Baytec Stadium Skilled Stadium Simons Stadium, he should finish the year with a bang.

The resting is always a concern with Geelong's players, hence why I've avoided Bartel this year, but hopefully if that does eventuate Mitchell is still pumping out 100s on the bench. Worse comes to worst I use one of my 3 remaining trades (praying for minimal LTIs) to sideway Selwood if he misses Rd 24.

Will 3 trades be enough for the run home, I think the Hartlett trade is worth it but open to discussion surrounding that one as well. Shaw vs Ibbo is one that I can decide later on in the week, hopefully can't go wrong either way. Just have to commit to offloading Hartlett.

Hanley another option with his good run home but the other two a little bit safer IMO and Hanley wasn't actually playing all that well until his last quarter to get the Lions over the line (:()

But like I said, the main issue at this stage is "Is trading Hartlett to a more solid premo worth it with 4 trades remaining?" and to that I say "yes" at the moment.

I'm hoping Van Berlo doesn't get sent to him this week as he did a pretty good job on Swanny after half time last week. Especially with SJ out, there could be a bit of attention going his way. Anything over 100+ and ill be happy.

I've got Jimmy and I've been very happy with his output so far. Been one of my most reliable and better choices at the start of the year, and I have good bench cover in case he does get rested. The reason why I have and won't get SJ is because he's missed so much footy! I can't see Mitchell slowing down so if Selwood is rested he should be a very safe option.

3 trades should be ample as long as you have a good trade plan, and don't use any for sideways until you reach finals. Anything can happen between now and then so make sure you hold them.

I'd go Ibbo out of them two, but that's me and I have Shaw. Money wise and his finals draw is what makes me take him over the line. Hartlett is good for anything over 70 generally so if he is your worst link and losing you 50 points per game I'd do it seeing as you have 3 trades to go after that. Go for it.

I like Hanley, and he saves you a load of cash.. Ibbo v Hanley? Very close as Hanley is hitting some good form at the moment. Take out his two bad games and he's averaging 107 with a huge huge ceiling.

Yes I think it is. Either Hanley or Ibbo, and Hanley for me just.

Good luck bud, and sorry for the late reply, didn't see it until now. Hope it all makes sense, and you aren't sick of my advice mate!

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No not sick of the advice at all, after all it is only you giving it so I look forward to any reply I can get from you, have been a massive help in this vital stretch of the year. Have to get it right here, with only 3 trades left there's not a lot of room for corrective trades!

Which raises another issue, the big Fijian NicNat, APPARENTLY he could be suffering from OP and whatever it is medical "experts" predict that his output will probably either plateau here or decline from this point. That's not a good sign.

Would want 3 trades for finals so don't think trading both of NicNat and Hartlett is an option.

Which one takes priority?

NicNat -> Roughy or Hartlett -> Shaw/Ibbo/Hanley

The only problem being if NicNat is indeed out for this week I'll have very minimal coverage with Staker already covering Stevie J, will need Gorringe to slot back into the team and I'm not confident of playing him on the field anyway.

Hartlett like you said isn't horrible but I'd much rather one of the safer options in Shaw/Ibbo, whereas if NicNat really is royally flowered then might have to jump ship while he still has value.

I'd still back NN in but would like to hear more about the extent of his injuries.

Like I said in the first post, I'm still not entirely convinced by Hanley, I think that's just my personal reasons though. The cash will be handy but think $120k should be pretty sufficient given my 3 trades will most likely only be for injuries. Hence I'm more inclined to go down the Ibbo/Shaw path, and going off what you've said Ibbo probably looks a bit better at the moment. Won't get tagged too which is a big plus.

As for Selwood, van Berlo probably a bit underrated but still wouldn't put him in the class of Crowley and co, and Selwood has dealt with some pretty close attention in his last 5 weeks and done OK so I'd still back him in I think. KJack floating round a similar price to him but there's just something about Selwood that I just like haha.

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Do you 2 want to get a room?  ;)  :-*

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Thanks so much man, so good to hear that I've been a massive help. You've got that right mate.

Yes it doesn't look good for Nic Nat. He's been plateauing for a while now and we've all seen it, so we've known that there's been something that's been hampering him, and that's the reason why he's unable to run out full games.

Nic Nat -> Roughy for me, as Nic Nat at this rate is losing a load of cash, he's pulling out scores relatively in the 70's and it's faulting your team scores overall. Roughy has been in obliterating form, and hasn't gone under 90 since Round 5. He has the ability to go big, and play up the ground which is a massive bonus,

As for Hartlett, we know he is capable of producing huge scores, and with the incosistency of the defenders it is quite hard to say who will end up being a top 6 backman. Hartlett is as good as any D6 and is averaging okay, so in hindsight he can stay in your team, given the obviousness of the more pressing trade of Nic Nat.

I'd still back him in to, but I just can't see him scoring well enough again to produce premium scores. There are plenty of NN threads floating around SC and many coaches are thinking of getting off the bandwagon. You don't want the added stress of him being out of the team in the next few weeks given the unlikelihood of West Coast making finals, for him to undergo season ending surgery. May aswell get off him now while he's still got value and enjoy the Roughnut's scores.

I'd go Selwood aswell, just think he's draw at home is the obvious advantage. Both great choices but yes I agree.

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Do you 2 want toget a room?  ;)  :-*

Only helping a fellow coach out! Hahaha and what about your obvious crush on Ryan Griffen mate? Nearly everyone's been told by you to get him in, even me in my latest post! The doc and Griff, hey? :o :P

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My massive man crush is on Hodgey!

Griffen is just a fantasy of mine.  ;)

PS Wish AFL has State of Origin.

PPS Did you see the fat arsed bloke at the end?  ;D

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HAHAHA STREAKER !

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My massive man crush is on Hodgey!

Griffen is just a fantasy of mine.  ;)

PS Wish AFL has State of Origin.

PPS Did you see the fat arsed bloke at the end?  ;D

ooooh, didn't know that!

hahahah, as is pendles for me, what an absolute gun

bloody oath vic v the rest of the nation

The best part about it all wasn't the streaker but was the security guard who ran under the crossbar, and slid flat on his arse! he deserves a medal hahahahaha

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Do you 2 want to get a room?  ;)  :-*

Haha I'll show the same kind of love to anyone that will give me sound SC advice...and I'm not talking Ricky Nixon style love, more your traditional Cheer.

Thanks for the advice all, poll showing NicNat -> Roughy seems the way to go early. Hopefully some more info emerges surrounding NicNat in the coming days.