Fremantle vs Richmond Discussion

Started by Mr.Craig, April 26, 2013, 06:30:08 PM

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nostradamus

Quote from: LaHug on April 26, 2013, 11:50:03 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 26, 2013, 11:46:04 PM
When the ball hits the goal umpire it's play on wherever it bounces. If the whole of the ball crosses the whole of the line before befor ehitting the umpire, then it's a goal/point depending on the circumstances.

The correct call was made.
My problem isn't with the call, it's that the umpire was in the way in the first place...

just imagine if it happened in a grand final and influenced the result

Toga

Quote from: me on April 26, 2013, 11:38:54 PM
lol, love how all the richmond fans are going to use that goal umpire incident as the reason they lost

it was going to hit the flowering post anyway!

flowering fyfe, typical fade out, just jogging around 1-paced chasing shadows for the last 3 quarters

How was it not the reason we lost?

Granted we should have won by more but that's a flowering stupid call mate.



Vlastuin not bad on debut fantasy-wise, but was impressive in general. will look to downgrade to him in a couple of weeks time. Cotchin and Deledio average tonight, just glad Cotch soldiered on after that ankle :-X Had me worried there.

its me lads

Tip for the Tigers: Score more than the other team.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

me

Quote from: Toga on April 27, 2013, 12:26:52 AM
Quote from: me on April 26, 2013, 11:38:54 PM
lol, love how all the richmond fans are going to use that goal umpire incident as the reason they lost

it was going to hit the flowering post anyway!

flowering fyfe, typical fade out, just jogging around 1-paced chasing shadows for the last 3 quarters

How was it not the reason we lost?

Granted we should have won by more but that's a flowering stupid call mate.

cos it's not a valid reason the tigers lost? would've been a point any way you slice and dice it - i haven't watch numerous replays (only what they showed as the game was going), but from what i saw looked like it would have hit the post anyway, also goal review is a joke, always inconclusive and the angles are always wrong, so doesn't really matter whether it was called for or not

conversely, i don't know how you can say they should have won by more when they didn't win at all lol

Memphistopheles

Quote from: me on April 27, 2013, 01:16:29 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 27, 2013, 12:26:52 AM
Quote from: me on April 26, 2013, 11:38:54 PM
lol, love how all the richmond fans are going to use that goal umpire incident as the reason they lost

it was going to hit the flowering post anyway!

flowering fyfe, typical fade out, just jogging around 1-paced chasing shadows for the last 3 quarters

How was it not the reason we lost?

Granted we should have won by more but that's a flowering stupid call mate.

cos it's not a valid reason the tigers lost? would've been a point any way you slice and dice it - i haven't watch numerous replays (only what they showed as the game was going), but from what i saw looked like it would have hit the post anyway, also goal review is a joke, always inconclusive and the angles are always wrong, so doesn't really matter whether it was called for or not

conversely, i don't know how you can say they should have won by more when they didn't win at all lol

I have seen plenty of replays and it was going through not hitting the post.

It's in the highlights on Youtube if you look at the trajectory of the ball and also freeze frame it you can see it would have snuck inside that right hand goal post.

Goal review from another angle would have been clear.

The rules do say that if it rebounds off the goal umpire it is play on but still he shouldn't have been there in the first place.


henry

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Quote from: henry on April 26, 2013, 07:56:46 PM
Oh for flowers sake lol. Decided to hold suban and get mayes and evans in instead because he was dropped and therefore wouldn't drop in value. Can't reverse trades now and probably couldn't do anything anyway. He's bloody come in from 3rd emergency and been the late replacement and is sub so will now drop 20k, very annoying. Rant over lol. Should never have picked the spud, will never do so again thats for sure  ::).

Hopefully tons from Cotch and Maric will make me feel better. Could've been worse lol use him as a loophole and get stuck with nim as captain that would definitely be a FMDT.
Suban ended up on 94 from 2.5 quarters lol what the hell is that about. Played well and so will likely hold his spot. Not sure what to do with him now, if there are no injuries he'll probably go to heppell. Feels wrong trading out a guy who scored 90 so quickly but there's a chance he will be sub again and that if I field him next week he'll score another 40.

Cotchin did alright considering his ankle issue, normally woukd expect more than 85 from a 26 possy game though. Maric pulled through well to an ok score.

HBTD22

flower, I went with Cotch as my captain in the end. Watch Jelwood, Boyd, Murph and Rocky drop big tons now haha.

Windigo

Quote from: HBTD22 on April 27, 2013, 10:42:36 AM
flower, I went with Cotch as my captain in the end. Watch Jelwood, Boyd, Murph and Rocky drop big tons now haha.

Well you asked for my opinion and I pretty much ruled out Cotch as C option.....

me

Quote from: Memphistopheles on April 27, 2013, 04:17:57 AM
Quote from: me on April 27, 2013, 01:16:29 AM
Quote from: Toga on April 27, 2013, 12:26:52 AM
Quote from: me on April 26, 2013, 11:38:54 PM
lol, love how all the richmond fans are going to use that goal umpire incident as the reason they lost

it was going to hit the flowering post anyway!

flowering fyfe, typical fade out, just jogging around 1-paced chasing shadows for the last 3 quarters

How was it not the reason we lost?

Granted we should have won by more but that's a flowering stupid call mate.

cos it's not a valid reason the tigers lost? would've been a point any way you slice and dice it - i haven't watch numerous replays (only what they showed as the game was going), but from what i saw looked like it would have hit the post anyway, also goal review is a joke, always inconclusive and the angles are always wrong, so doesn't really matter whether it was called for or not

conversely, i don't know how you can say they should have won by more when they didn't win at all lol

I have seen plenty of replays and it was going through not hitting the post.

It's in the highlights on Youtube if you look at the trajectory of the ball and also freeze frame it you can see it would have snuck inside that right hand goal post.

Goal review from another angle would have been clear.

The rules do say that if it rebounds off the goal umpire it is play on but still he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

none of the angles (that i have seen) could be considered conclusive at all (got a link to something that shows more? i have checked afl and youtube), on the night i personally thought it was going to hit the back part of the post from what they showed of it during the game

as i said, the umpire review system is a complete joke, and in need of a rapid overhaul - why refer anything if you never have cameras in the right spots / aren't willing to overturn anything because there's almost nothing that can ever be shown to be conclusive enough to overturn an onfield decision

as for cotch, think his owners got a little unlucky with his injury, if he wasn't hobbling around for half the game, would've easily tonned up you'd suspect (and hence been not that bad a captain choice) ;/

HBTD22

Quote from: Windigo on April 27, 2013, 12:20:38 PM
Quote from: HBTD22 on April 27, 2013, 10:42:36 AM
flower, I went with Cotch as my captain in the end. Watch Jelwood, Boyd, Murph and Rocky drop big tons now haha.

Well you asked for my opinion and I pretty much ruled out Cotch as C option.....

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I won't ever doubt you again... :P

Toga

I think you're right in that there was no conclusive video footage as to whether the ball was over the line but I think it was pretty likely (given the trajectory of the ball and where it hit the umpire on his leg) that it was going through had he not been there.

Someone suggested it a couple of weeks ago - take the cameras out of the changerooms (reducing the risk of a "Dicky Henderson" situation), and put them on the goal post. That would have been pretty conclusive in my books if they had a camera there.

HBTD22

Quote from: Toga on April 27, 2013, 01:14:01 PM
I think you're right in that there was no conclusive video footage as to whether the ball was over the line but I think it was pretty likely (given the trajectory of the ball and where it hit the umpire on his leg) that it was going through had he not been there.

Someone suggested it a couple of weeks ago - take the cameras out of the changerooms (reducing the risk of a "Dicky Henderson" situation), and put them on the goal post. That would have been pretty conclusive in my books if they had a camera there.

I gotta agree that it was definitely in line to cross - in my book it was and should've been called a goal.