PRESEASON RD 4: St Kilda v GWS Discussion

[Ricochet]

BLUES vs BRIS   -   SK vs GWS   -   PORT vs SYD   -   NM vs HAW   -   RICH vs WB   -   MEL vs GC   -   COL vs GEE

Saints Squad 1  Tom Hickey 2  Arryn Siposs 3  Jack Steven 4  Clint Jones 5  Ben McEvoy 7 Lenny Hayes 8  Trent Dennis-Lane                                      9  Tom Lee 11  Leigh Montagna 12 Nick Riewoldt 14  Jarryn Geary 16  Jack Newnes 17  Dylan Roberton 19  Sam Gilbert 20  David Armitage 21  Ahmed Saad 22  Farren Ray 25 Sam Fisher 26  Nick Dal Santo 27  Jason Blake 30 Brodie Murdoch 32  Terry Milera 33  James Gwilt 34  Nathan Wright 37  Beau Maister 44  Stephen Milne

GWS Squad 1 Phil Davis, 2 Curtly Hampton, 3 Stephen Coniglio, 4 Toby Greene, 5 Dylan Shiel, 6 Lachie Whitfield, 7 Rhys Palmer, 8 Callan Ward, 9 Tom Scully, 10 Devon Smith, 11 Taylor Adams, 12 Jonathon Patton, 14 Tomas Bugg, 17 Adam Treloar, 18 Jeremy Cameron, 23 Sam Reid, 25 Anthony Miles, 26 Jonathan Giles, 28 Liam Sumner, 30 Lachie Plowman, 33 Will Hoskin-Elliott, 35 Aidan Corr, 37 Setanta O’hAilpin, 38 Stephen Gilham, 39 Tim Mohr, 40 Adam Kennedy, 48 Sam Frost, 50 Dean Brogan

[tbagrocks]

Hickey in the team worries my :-\  unless he plays forward

[Ziplock]

Hickey in the team worries my :-\  unless he plays forward

they've already got Lee and Riewoldt as key forwards.

that being said, I think they might be just trying to expose Hickey to some quality opposition. They might trial him as a key forward and pinch hitter, dunno how it'll go though.

[Mr.Craig]

Interesting to see both Murdoch and Wright given another opportunity this late in the pre-season. Unfortunately their scoring potential isn't that flash.

[tbagrocks]

Hickey in the team worries my :-\  unless he plays forward

they've already got Lee and Riewoldt as key forwards.

that being said, I think they might be just trying to expose Hickey to some quality opposition. They might trial him as a key forward and pinch hitter, dunno how it'll go though.

It's a strange one mate, i'd like to lock in McEvoy but :-\

Can't pass this chance up! Quality oppositions wut :o  ::)  :P  ;D  ;)

[Ziplock]

haha, it looks like I'm talking my boys up now.

not that I misread the title as STK vs Sydney... :P

I think they're just going to be trialling 3 talls tbh.

[ando_10]

Macca will have no trouble moving into the elite rucks in the comp this year IMO he needed someone like hickey to come and help  this year.

Saints to win this one by 68

[tbagrocks]

Cameron and Patton is curious to me, Jeremy to pricey but John is a nice tempting but awkward price :-\ but these guys I expect to tag team for dominance this year, who will be on top by years end?

[Ziplock]

I think Patton will probably end up ahead of cameron, assuming they play the same number of games. From the couple of games I've seen them together in the pre-season, cameron seems to be playing FF with Patton at HF- logically patton will be getting more ball, considering our sub par delivery, cameron may be starved a bit.

That being said, I think they can both kick about 25 goals a piece this year, which would be pretty handy.

[Ricochet]

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2013-03-16/saints-look-towards-round-1

GREATER Western Sydney is finally developing a killer instinct.

That's the view of coach Kevin Sheedy after the Giants beat St Kilda by 16 points at Blacktown on Saturday.

One week after copping a 16-goal hammering from Essendon, the Giants rebounded to defeat a nearly full-strength Saints' side 16.6 (102) to 12.14 (86) after running out the final quarter stronger.

After being disappointed by the Giants' narrow pre-season losses to Friday night's grand finalists the Brisbane Lions and Carlton, Sheedy said the hard-fought nature of the win was the biggest positive.

"It was a very important point that we get across the line to these players that when you get the opportunity, take the game," Sheedy said afterwards.

"That's a learning procedure that you've got to get killer instinct into your game and slowly but surely, we'll get that.

"They actually fought it out, the boys did, and it was pleasing from that point of view.

"When the game was there, we actually took back the game and the winning of the ball even, we had probably 60 or 70 so more possessions, and they're a good side, St Kilda."

Sydney turned on a muggy, 33-degree afternoon for the final weekend of pre-season action, with players needing ice vests and seeking shade during the breaks.

And the Giants handled the steamy conditions better, running out the final quarter with six goals to three.

Midfielders Toby Greene and Callan Ward were instrumental in the second half, and especially in the last quarter when the lead changed four times before Will Hoskin-Elliot â€" in his first game for the pre-season â€" put the Giants in front with a goal.

They didn't look back from there, with Dylan Shiel, Lachie Plowman and Liam Sumner rounding out the game with goals to put the result beyond doubt.

Stephen Coniglio was also excellent for the Giants although his effectiveness was reduced at times by veteran Saint Lenny Hayes in the last quarter.

Forward Jeremy Cameron got the Giants off to a terrific start with three goals in the first quarter but didn't manage another for the game, although he did continue to present.

For the Saints, Jack Steven was excellent with plenty of possessions, including 14 to half-time, while Farren Ray and Leigh Montagna also impressed.

Veteran backman Jason Blake was strong in defence with six marks in the first two quarters while first-year player Nathan Wright did his chances of a round one debut no harm with an impressive game off half-back.

The Saints attacked hard in the game's opening stages but the Giants' backline showed composure to withstand the initial surge.

Cameron's bag saw the home side hold a three-point lead at the first change and the Giants retained the upper hand at half-time, although a goal to Beau Maister on the siren cut the margin back to 10 points.

Devon Smith collected plenty of the ball for the Giants, while Coniglio got going in the second quarter and contributed with some nice touches and a goal.

St Kilda's Jack Newnes played with intensity and kicked the goal late in the third quarter that levelled the scores before they took a one-point lead into the fourth.

St Kilda coach Scott Watters refused to blame the warm conditions for the Saints' fade out but conceded there had been an "accumulation of load" for them after all their pre-season games were played in plus-30 degree heat.

He said he wouldn't head into round one concerned over the result and the Saints were pleased with what they'd got out of the pre-season competition as a whole.

"I think you need to look at your pre-season in its entirety, or the NAB Cup series in its entirety," Watters said.

"We got really good minutes into our players, we now have an opportunity to freshen up and I think if you probably look at GWS's side after nine or 10 players freshen up in a week and come back, you see how they're bouncing over the top of the ground.

"I'd much rather be preparing for round one than preparing for NAB four."

The Giants end their pre-season with two wins and three losses while the Saints have three victories and two defeats.

Both teams reported no injuries from the game. Jonathon Patton was rested from the last quarter and Nick Riewoldt was reported to have been icing his knee after the game, which Watters said was a routine procedure.

GWS 4.2 8.5 10.5 16.6 (102)
ST KILDA 3.5 6.7 9.12 12.14 (86)

GOALS
Greater Western Sydney: Cameron 3, Greene 2, Ward, Whitfield, Smith, Coniglio, Giles, Reid, Treloar, Hoskin-Elliot, Shiel, Plowman, Sumner
St Kilda: Maister 2, Milera, Montagna, Riewoldt, Gilbert, Armitage, Dennis-Lane, Ray, Newnes, Steven, Milne

BEST
Greater Western Sydney: Greene, Ward, Treloar, Cameron, Coniglio, Smith, Plowman
St Kilda: Steven, Ray, Armitage, Montagna, Maister

INJURIES
Greater Western Sydney: Nil
St Kilda: Nil

Reports: Nil

[Andrew]

Does anyone know how many points did Riewoldt got in this game..?

[Slashers]

I take it Patton didn't play.

Any news on him? He seems a bit injury/niggle prone..?