22 round plan

Started by stoneius, February 16, 2010, 10:28:33 PM

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stoneius

Start 7 best players (2,2,1,2) over past 3 years in their respective positions (that won't be > 28 at seasons end), add another 7 players on the verge of becoming premium (2,2,1,2) giving 14 players that I hope not to trade throughout the season.  Remaining 8 field players will be low-mid price, with the thought to upgrade them as I cash in my 8 rookie cash cows on the bench = 16 trades leaving 4 for long-term injury problems.  Starting team as follows:

Goddard
Hodge
Harbrow
Thompson
Kennelly
Hunt
Ladson

Ablett
Bartel
Rich
Boak
Trengove
Martin

Sandilands
Kreuzer

Riewoldt
Pavlich
Gray
Tippett
Ziebell
Ballantyne
Yarran

Bench (subject to change):

Trengove
Smith

Shuey
Bastinac

Warnock
Skipper

Rockliff
Hitchcock

Thoughts?

ronl

Not a bad looking plan on paper, it will be interesting if you could update us thru the season as to how it is working, I'd be interested to know.
Are the seven best players based on your statistics or the league's?
Did you use any criteria for selection of rookies etc other than your personal preferences?

stevemac

interested to know stoneius how much $$ you are left over with

interesting plan. by all means the premiums should hold their value, the next lot should rise in value and possibly be kept and the rookies should just rise. you have made a complex system appear simple. ill be interested to see how it works.

do you have a contingency plan for you 'on the verge' players ie. what do you do if tippett is out for the year?

grum88

Ha ha Im following a similar idea myself but I choosing my keepers a little differently.
Its a fool proof plan but remember 4 or 5, 6 bad injuries and you'll have to rethink, and then of course there is the whole resting stars policy at the end of the season like what the Cats and saints did last year.

That said if your up and comers rise well you might do ok. Good luck  ;)

stoneius

Top 7 players were based on best supercoach averages over the last 3 seasons, excluding players who would be over 29 years of age and over come round 22.

Goddard, Hodge, Ablett, Bartel, Sandilands, Riewoldt & Pavlich fit this description.

Players like Goodwin and Cox were too old to consider, as studies show they should start to decrease their output at this age.

stoneius

answers to other queries:

rookies based solely on personal preferences and subject to change up until round 1.

$7000 cash left over at the moment.  Would have preferred for the 3 cheapies to be Dangerfield, Ziebell, + ....., but remaining cash too low to get anyone decent.  +, I think Dangerfield will be a bit of a supercoach flop this year (nothing to back this up outside gut feel...)

If someone goes down, have 4 trades as a minimum for long-term injuries + not all 16 trades will happen at once.  These will gradually happen over the mid-part of the season.

Banzai-

Pretty standard way of building a team IMO (the 7-7-8 thing), though I guess most people dont do it deliberately.  If you look at most of the good teams theyll have roughly 14 keepers, with about half of them being proven "premiums" and the other half being good players with a bit of value.  Not sure I like your way of picking the 2nd tier of keepers, as you miss the clear (IMO) value of people like Cooney, but given your criteria the picks seem good.
I am however a big fan of your method of picking your premiums, and I think its no coincidence that I have the 7 players you mention, even though ive never thought of it the way you do.

Resch

Quote from: stoneius on February 17, 2010, 02:33:40 AM
Top 7 players were based on best supercoach averages over the last 3 seasons, excluding players who would be over 29 years of age and over come round 22.

Goddard, Hodge, Ablett, Bartel, Sandilands, Riewoldt & Pavlich fit this description.

Players like Goodwin and Cox were too old to consider, as studies show they should start to decrease their output at this age.

Agree with Goodwin being old at 33 but you are being choosy with Cox. Pavlich and Cox are both 28 (granted Cox turns 29 in August, Pav in December).  Riewoldt and Sandilands are 27.  Be interested in a reference for these "studies".   

Still not a bad theory, but using an arbitary age can be misleading.....

amtrotter

your team  looks very weak with some of the lower players on the field.
HavingThompson
Kennelly
Hunt
Ladson all in back line is quite weak.
same with midfield with rich being your third best player in your midfield??????
Ballantine and yarran also ???????????????

stoneius

i have only gone by the statement that players are in their prime from 24-28.  have to have a cutoff somewhere, but I agree with what you are saying RE cox only 29 in august - probably should have been a bit more careful with that one.

I looked at Cooney pretty hard, but I am just not that convinced, and tend to agree with monty on this one.  he only averaged 107 in his brownlow year, and hasn't been over 93 on any one year.  even the second half of last year when he was supposedly fit and firing, his average was still only 98.  whlist i think he will improve, I reckon it will only be by 8-9 points.

Rich on the other hand, goes into his second year with the opportunity to be a genuine superstar.  looking at other young guns like selwood, pendlebury and gibbs - they all went up by around 20 points in their second year, and I reckon Rich can do that this year.  Boak also has the ability to score pretty big on occassion, with 120, 142 & 129 last year, and will have the chance to do that this year with the burgoyne boys gone.

I am happy with backline (nothing wrong with thompson, is 22, averaged 80 last year in his second year, and should improve on this again) and mids - i do agree that my cheaper forwards need work - just struggling for cash...