Ruck 2: Fraser, Jolly, Ottens, McIntosh

[brownmans muffins]

What are people thinking re the potential of these 4 Tier 2 ruckmen?
I'm already locked in on Ottens after a bit of second-guessing re upgrading to Jolly with the job to himself or Fraser who is an occasional smokey. Tough to see McIntosh going substantially better than any of these other 3 cats.
Ottens seems to polarise opinion: good potential, price and track record VS other who bag him for general oldness and mongness.

[ando10]

i say go for either fraser or mcintosh.

[cooney17]

Jolly will get heaps of TOG.