Scott Thompson

Started by the raven, April 24, 2012, 12:18:25 AM

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the raven

With his 154 break even scott thompson could be an ideal first upgrade at about 480k. Only problem is I don't rate him as a good dream teamer (is an excellent real life footballer) and I also dont see him being in the top 6 mids this year. I see him as nothing more than a "high nineties" player. Is 29 years old (not to much of an issue) but could be cheap and almost an instant trade in. Here are his numbers from past 5 years and this year also.

2007- 99.6
2008- 99.4
2009- 97.8
2010- 95.9
2011- 108.5
THIS YEAR- 102.5 (so far)

In 2011 his average was significantly bolstered by his 151 and 135 against the gold coast suns. He also destroyed fremantle, port and brisbane for 154, 141 and 138 respectively. in 2011 his low scores consisted of 61, 71 and 75.

While it is not as likely for a player to score 100+ each and every week as they are likely to have a few bad games or be tagged.

Anyway. Is scott thompson worth a look in. I just dont rate him in comparison to the likes of SWAN, MITCHELL, MURPHY (3 players I don't have and would consider top 6 that I would like to have in my team).

My current mids are ablett (13), boyd (11), pendles (12) selwood (12). Thompson fits my bye structure as I could get another 11 or 13 premo but not sure if he is really that much of a decent pick in comparison to the others. Thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated as its doing my head in.

TL;DR- Is scott thompson the real deal or just a high nineties dream team pretender benefiting from an significantly easier fixture than other premiums?

picker_man

i have him in my team ATM and probably main reason is i love the bloke and the crows but i think you've summed it up as there's to many concerns with him compared to other premium mids and hes fallen in price for a reason and whats with the damn 30 possesions he gets each game and for lil points ???

Colliwobblers

he averaged 108 last season that doesnt look like a "pretender" to me.

He also had over 50 possessions in a single game - yes GCS but had 3 other scores over 140

scored over 100 on 15 occassions

8 of those over 120

He has an easy draw this season, the only downside I see this season for him is the fact that there are now actually other midfielders in his side that get thier hands on the ball, that wasn't the case last season.

Probably not top 6 but not far off the top average i wouldn't think...

@ pickers - he will come good and the reason he scores poorly is he id the main guy that gets in and under and he is closely tagged a lot of the time so that leads to his K:H rating being pretty close to 1 for 1.

you need sloane or vinve or mackay or van berlo to get in and get thier hands dirty and hand it off to him so he can kick it more :)

the raven

Quote from: picker_man on April 24, 2012, 12:22:57 AM
i have him in my team ATM and probably main reason is i love the bloke and the crows but i think you've summed it up as there's to many concerns with him compared to other premium mids and hes fallen in price for a reason and whats with the damn 30 possesions he gets each game and for lil points ???

Probably a combination as of low marks and tackles and a few to many hand balls. E.g could have killed it dt wise vs gold coast last year where he had 31 odd handballs and 20 kicks. Imagine a few more kicks in there.

I think if his scores against gold coast last year hadn't been that high his avg would have been a lot lower (about 95 i think or around 100 if he was mediocre against them instead of dominant). His avg increased by 13 odd points mostly for what I think is a result of playing worse teams. His highest score against a top 4 side last year was 128 (eagles rd 24). Am I missing something here. Is he worth that M6 spot or would it be better waiting for a price drop from murph or mitch or even paying the top dollar premium price tag?

elephants

Isn't in my predicted top 6 mids... Not for me.

the raven

Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 24, 2012, 12:29:28 AM
he averaged 108 last season that doesnt look like a "pretender" to me.

He also had over 50 possessions in a single game - yes GCS but had 3 other scores over 140

scored over 100 on 15 occassions

8 of those over 120

He has an easy draw this season, the only downside I see this season for him is the fact that there are now actually other midfielders in his side that get thier hands on the ball, that wasn't the case last season.

Probably not top 6 but not far off the top average i wouldn't think...

@ pickers - he will come good and the reason he scores poorly is he id the main guy that gets in and under and he is closely tagged a lot of the time so that leads to his K:H rating being pretty close to 1 for 1.

you need sloane or vinve or mackay or van berlo to get in and get thier hands dirty and hand it off to him so he can kick it more :)

But his 108 avg is only as a result of playing and accumulating possessions against weaker sides. Mind you I think adelaide will need him so he could be good for a full 22 as they will push for top 8 with there soft draw. For me it comes down to whether I can justify a midfield spot for someone who can really only destroy weaker sides or pay top dollar for someone like murphy who has stepped it up (murph will also be in line for taggers with judd so he has a little coverage there)

The Silent Partner

Boyd is better and I think Stanton has taken his mantle as bridesmaid after the big guns. Id consider only after rd 11 bye

the raven

Quote from: elephants on April 24, 2012, 12:31:53 AM
Isn't in my predicted top 6 mids... Not for me.

top 6 would have to be swan, pendles, ablett, mitchell, murphy and boyd. Not in order but those the 6 I think. Thompson, selwood, watson to round out the top 10. Stanton could push as well. Just not sure If the 80k from getting him would be good to UG my team.

the raven

Quote from: The Silent Partner on April 24, 2012, 12:35:25 AM
Boyd is better and I think Stanton has taken his mantle as bridesmaid after the big guns. Id consider only after rd 11 bye

Stanton will still have a few quieter games in the future which will drop his avg. But he seems to have a higher ceiling than thompson.

elephants

Quote from: the raven on April 24, 2012, 12:35:30 AM
Quote from: elephants on April 24, 2012, 12:31:53 AM
Isn't in my predicted top 6 mids... Not for me.

top 6 would have to be swan, pendles, ablett, mitchell, murphy and boyd. Not in order but those the 6 I think. Thompson, selwood, watson to round out the top 10. Stanton could push as well. Just not sure If the 80k from getting him would be good to UG my team.

No Selwood? :o

Colliwobblers

Selwoods in ther "rounding out the top 10" :)

I agree for me i started Ablett Swan Pendles , I'll bring in Barlow now. My pre bye upgrades will be 2 of

Boyd/Mitchell/Murphy/Thomo/Rocky.

Obviously due to swan pendles and barlow, watson stanton and jselwood are out of the question. (all rnd 12 bye)

Thats my midfield done with the option to upgrade Barlow or Keep decision being made in round 12. If he is scoring 110+ he stays, if not then I'' look at the other top 10 mids.

Problem there is a donut in round 12 If I keep him, but at $400K for a possible 110 average he will have scored me more points between now and then than he will cost me in one round 12 bye game. And saved me $150K.

DT Gun

If you select someone to 'Average' 110, you can not expect 120 every week.

He is bang or bust.

So yes he will score you some 80's or but he also scores the odd 140.

Thats what makes his average 110.

Unlike other premiums who score 100-120 every week for an average of 110 his scoring is completely different.