shaw wtf

[DT-SC]

he had 95% TOG !!!
with disposal effiency of 53

dt wasnt terrible with 77 but those key stats hurt

[Justin Bieber]

He was on 21 at half time... So he had a good second half.

[TheMailman]

He's in Collingwood's top 3 most important players it doesn't matter if he butchers it up in a practice match

[Scotch]

3 most important players is a stretch, no higher than 7th.  Either way I wouldn't be phased by it.

[essendon2]

He was on 21 at half time... So he had a good second half.

+1

[TheMailman]

3 most important players is a stretch, no higher than 7th.  Either way I wouldn't be phased by it.

You could argue that he's their most important player.

He basically controls all of Collingwood's backline flow, with HOB and the rest helping out a little bit.

Collingwood are less likely to win without Shaw, than without Swan, Thomas or Pendlebury IMO regardless of whether they are better skillwise or not

[underdog11]

SEN were saying he was domiante

[Jukes]

Upgraded Shaw today, didn't like his performance today and had the $$$ to go to Scotland.

[Holz]

Upgraded Shaw today, didn't like his performance today and had the $$$ to go to Scotland.

could be a good move, but could turn out to be a downgrade in terms of points

[Scotch]

3 most important players is a stretch, no higher than 7th.  Either way I wouldn't be phased by it.

You could argue that he's their most important player.

He basically controls all of Collingwood's backline flow, with HOB and the rest helping out a little bit.

Collingwood are less likely to win without Shaw, than without Swan, Thomas or Pendlebury IMO regardless of whether they are better skillwise or not

I disagree completely but then, this isn't a Collingwood board so I won't bore everyone with it :)

I definitely think he should be kept, Shaw WILL perform, Goddard is the one with attitude problems.  Although Goddard stepped it up today points-wise so maybe his attitude was back on track.

[Andrew]

3 most important players is a stretch, no higher than 7th.  Either way I wouldn't be phased by it.

You could argue that he's their most important player.

He basically controls all of Collingwood's backline flow, with HOB and the rest helping out a little bit.

Collingwood are less likely to win without Shaw, than without Swan, Thomas or Pendlebury IMO regardless of whether they are better skillwise or not

I disagree completely but then, this isn't a Collingwood board so I won't bore everyone with it :)

+1, these are just silly comments about Heath Shaw being in Collingwood's top 3 players. Weren't you people watching the Grand Final last year? No Jolly, No Collingwood. Travis Cloke keeps the forward line together and then there's a certain Brownlow medallist in the midfield. There's your top 3 without even mentioning Pendlebury, Thomas, Tarrant, or Brown. Outside of that, didn't Heath Shaw miss a bunch of games last season and it didn't knock Collingwood off their path at all..?

All that being said, Heath Shaw is in my team just like he's in the Collingwood leadership group! Bucks wouldn't get it wrong when it comes to leadership, so Heath must be a changed man - I'm on the rollercoaster from the start this year!!

[TheMailman]

3 most important players is a stretch, no higher than 7th.  Either way I wouldn't be phased by it.

You could argue that he's their most important player.

He basically controls all of Collingwood's backline flow, with HOB and the rest helping out a little bit.

Collingwood are less likely to win without Shaw, than without Swan, Thomas or Pendlebury IMO regardless of whether they are better skillwise or not

I disagree completely but then, this isn't a Collingwood board so I won't bore everyone with it :)

+1, these are just silly comments about Heath Shaw being in Collingwood's top 3 players. Weren't you people watching the Grand Final last year? No Jolly, No Collingwood. Travis Cloke keeps the forward line together and then there's a certain Brownlow medallist in the midfield. There's your top 3 without even mentioning Pendlebury, Thomas, Tarrant, or Brown. Outside of that, didn't Heath Shaw miss a bunch of games last season and it didn't knock Collingwood off their path at all..?

All that being said, Heath Shaw is in my team just like he's in the Collingwood leadership group! Bucks wouldn't get it wrong when it comes to leadership, so Heath must be a changed man - I'm on the rollercoaster from the start this year!!

Well really you aren't listening to me at all.

1. Jolly
2. Shaw
3. Cloke

I said you COULD argue that Shaw is their most important player, which you can.

You take out Swan

Pendlebury, Ball, Thomas, Wellingham, Johnson, Sidebottom, Beams, Didak and Fasolo basically gives a No.1 midfield anyway.

Swan is an outside midfielder, he may have skill but Collingwood have a lot of outside midfielders. There's a difference in looking at game stats and looking at an actual game

[Windigo]

It's what Shaw does, his scores will never be "Deledio like."   :P

[mezzoculo]

Listened to the game on SEN last night. The majority of the Saints (few) forward entries in the first hallf seemed 'shallow' and ill-directed, making them intercept targets for Collingwood's defensive running midfielders (e.g. Sidebum and Pendles etc) rather than the actual defenders (e.g. Shaw).

[TheMailman]

Listened to the game on SEN last night. The majority of the Saints (few) forward entries in the first hallf seemed 'shallow' and ill-directed, making them intercept targets for Collingwood's defensive running midfielders (e.g. Sidebum and Pendles etc) rather than the actual defenders (e.g. Shaw).

That's a good piece of info thanks :)