Giles?

[elephants]

There should be no disputing how valuable Giles will be as a 3rd/4th ruckman. As a 2nd ruckman, well that could be another story..

True, could also be the difference between a top 500 finish and a 20,000+. If it comes off you are in the box seat. If not, it is a long road back...

If you make the mistake of having Giles as number 2 (so hegoes down in the first rd), it's not going to make you come 20,000 for it.

Well it could do. It will put you a few trades behind the rest and even the who knows if you're making the right choice?

Don't think it means much coming from my friend....

He was at the game he said Orren has no tank?  ??? Said he "huffing & puffing" after like 5 minutes?  :P

Taking a stab but I guess AFL footy is a step up from VFL. He will need a few weeks of pre-season pace and then a few more of real AFL to get really involved but he doesn't need to start even if ou do start Giles. Just needs to score well enough.

[Windigo]

He still slayed at the hitouts though. But West is the obvious first choice ruck.

[elephants]

He still slayed at the hitouts though. But West is the obvious first choice ruck.

Agreed.

[csboy]

his rucking as my no.2 atm