How much will Jacobs value rise ?

Shrews · February 11, 2012, 10:34:18 AM

Although i've grasped the basic principle that you try to find players who's values will rise so that you can eventually afford more guns I haven't got the experience to work out by how much or how quickly.

For example i'd like Cox and Sandilands in my squad and basically would then like to keep them all season. I know that the top 6 ruck averages from last season are second only to the mids, so it seems to me that picking the 'best two' and then 'leaving them to it' is a decent enough strategy.

However, Sandilands did have injury problems last year (toe I believe, which is hardly an achilies or a cruciate but niggly nevertheless) so I think it might be prudent to be cautious. Jacobs seems to have a highly publicised easy ride of it for the first 5 games, so it seems logical to take advantage of that and then introduce Sandilands after those first five games.

With that in mind, and assuming no money in the bank, is it possible that Jacobs price will rise enough (and/or Sandilands price falls enough) to trade Sandilands in. The difference is currently just under $36k.

Is that a realistic deficit to overcome after just 5 games ? I have no idea !

Kuruki · February 11, 2012, 10:49:37 AM

No no no you do not want to get Jacobs with the intention of trading him up to Sandilands. If you want to do that then you should be getting a rookie or maybe someone like HMac. Jacobs is a player that if you pick him then you are doing so to keep him all year. Otherwise just pick Sandi from the start. That would be a massive waste of a trade to go Jacobs to Sandilands.

Shrews · February 11, 2012, 10:52:38 AM

Fair enough, advice taken.

Trouble is I can't make up my mind !

Just out of interest, how much would he rise for example if he was the top ruck point scorer after 5 games ?

Kuruki · February 11, 2012, 11:09:44 AM

Quote from: Shrews on February 11, 2012, 10:52:38 AM
Fair enough, advice taken.

Trouble is I can't make up my mind !

Just out of interest, how much would he rise for example if he was the top ruck point scorer after 5 games ?

Im not sure mate. I understand what you are looking at doing, trying to use Jacobs good early rounds to straight swap him to one of the top 2 rucks. If Sandilands comes out and scores well he is also going to rise in price. The thing for me though is if Jacobs is top scoring ruck after 5 round's there would be more important more urgent area's in your team to upgrade, rather then swapping him to Sandilands who would have to be scoring poorly anyway.
Im guessing if he is top scoring then you will be able to straight swap him to Sandi. But to be honest, i think you should just pick one from the start and stick to it. If you traded Jacobs to Sandi and Jacobs outscored him you'd be furious. If you traded Jacobs to Sandi and then Sandi or your other ruck got injured, you'd be wasting another trade. That would be 2 trades used on your ruck and u have not made any improvements to your side in terms of getting closer to 22 premiums.

The F.A.R.K. · February 11, 2012, 11:29:52 AM

Your inexperience in DT shows. If you really want Sandilands then just spend the bloody 36k and get him. If you want someone to upgrade to sandi get a Hmac, Giles, Stephenson who will rise over 100k in value. Personally id just take jacobs and keep him, If you look at pre-season teams they are all Jacobs, Mcevoy, Hmac, Mumford ect. Barely any sandicox

Shrews · February 11, 2012, 11:31:21 AM

Yeah fair enough, that all seems logical to me, especially as I just want to forget about the ruck position.

22 premiums, bloody hell that'll take some doing. Assuming a premium is $400k+ then i've got another 10 to find and 14 of my squad are under $150k at the moment ;D

Ziplock · February 11, 2012, 11:34:34 AM

that' s the general idea. That being said, jacobs age + team and easy draw could very well see him lift to a close to 100ppg average anyway :)

Shrews · February 11, 2012, 11:39:41 AM

Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on February 11, 2012, 11:29:52 AM
Your inexperience in DT shows.

I posted I was inexperienced, so yes you're right, it does clearly show !

Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on February 11, 2012, 11:29:52 AMIf you look at pre-season teams they are all Jacobs, Mcevoy, Hmac, Mumford ect. Barely any sandicox

Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Going against the masses can be a good thing I suppose and with Sandicox it's not exactly taking a risk either.

pavs nose · February 11, 2012, 11:59:51 AM

Quote from: Shrews on February 11, 2012, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on February 11, 2012, 11:29:52 AM
Your inexperience in DT shows.

I posted I was inexperienced, so yes you're right, it does clearly show !

Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on February 11, 2012, 11:29:52 AMIf you look at pre-season teams they are all Jacobs, Mcevoy, Hmac, Mumford ect. Barely any sandicox

Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Going against the masses can be a good thing I suppose and with Sandicox it's not exactly taking a risk either.

forget about F.A.R.K shrews. he obviously was bullied at school and is psychologically scarred so he tries to get his on back on a keyboard through fan footy. ask for advice mate not everyone will knock you but the 1st couple of seasons in dt/sc i think it is best to do your best and have fun and you will come back 500% a better coach the following year. good luck mate

Shrews · February 11, 2012, 12:12:52 PM

Did try it in 09/10 (DT) but just didn't 'get it'. AFL as a sport is very new to me but the Fantasy angle seemed mind boggling and I didn't even try really.

Last season, I tried to do something different without listening to any opinions. Wasted a load of trades early doors to put my team right and did well enough when I got it right but then suffered for it later in the season as the lack of trades took their toll.

This year, I am listening and want to give it a good go as I find it very intriguing. So any reply to my questions I will only see as a positive thing. FAR KS post was no problem.

Kuruki · February 11, 2012, 12:47:50 PM

Quote from: Shrews on February 11, 2012, 11:31:21 AM
Yeah fair enough, that all seems logical to me, especially as I just want to forget about the ruck position.

22 premiums, bloody hell that'll take some doing. Assuming a premium is $400k+ then i've got another 10 to find and 14 of my squad are under $150k at the moment ;D

Yep it's what we all hope to achieve. Some will do it by picking cheaper options that will eventually become top dog premiums. Others will do it through selecting the right rookies who make plenty of money.
This is the reason why you do not want to be wasting trades going from premium to premium. It often costs you 2 trades to get one Premium anyway. Trades are gold. You need to make every single one count as much as possible.