Substitute data - do we need it?

Started by Patrician, January 05, 2012, 01:18:04 PM

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How useful would additional player data on substitutions be?

Hurry up and make it work!
Could be useful, would be a nice feature.
Perhaps, but would only occasionally use it.
Not needed at all.

Patrician

#15
Every piece of help is welcome mate, thanks :)

Feel free to get started on the other teams and add them straight to the excel  :P

Thanks for hosting Ossie.

Patrician

Next update on the way. Scores are in.  ;)


Patrician

#18
Looking at the data (but not having fully analysed it) it makes me think that who is subbed is almost as important as being the sub.

There appear to be some sub pairs (e.g. Rohan Bewick and Bryce Retzlaff) or players that are lined up to be subbed as part of the game plan (e.g. Jack Darling, Daniel Gorringe, Brent Renouf, Harry Taylor) either because they're a ruck or young or because they're getting on and their fitness is being managed.

Of course, the other reason someone keeps getting subbed is maybe because they suck  ;D

Makes me wonder if Lenny Hayes is a prime candidate to be a pre-determined subbed player this year.

EDIT

Some players of interest, not including finals. 

Andrew Gaff sub 6 times

SC average = 61.1

SC average (non sub) = 78.25 (includes a top score of 118 and two 90+)

Allen Christensen sub 6 times

SC average = 65.8

SC average (non sub = 86.4 (includes a top score of 117 and five 100+ scores)

Luke Breust sub 6 times, subbed once

SC average = 68.7

SC average (non sub) = 83.5 (includes a top score of 114 and three 100+ scores)

SC average (no sub or subbed) = 85.3

Ben Speight sub 5  times (out of 8 games!)

SC average = 48.0

SC average (non sub) = 65.6 (top score 72)




CFC 1979

Geez got a lazy 5 minutes CF to knock up those tables

CrowsFan

Quote from: CFC 1979 on January 30, 2012, 09:13:46 PM
Geez got a lazy 5 minutes CF to knock up those tables
My part was certainly a lazy 5 minutes compared to what patrician did :P

booyakasha

Good Job!

Hope all of this was done on work time because you should be getting paid for this

fever

hey pat,

great idea and thanks a lot for doing this!

i think we need to also analyse a players performance in the week/s after they've been the sub (or less importantly been subbed off). call it the "freshness factor" or something. would have a reasonable impact i think (especially as subs often tended to be younger or rookie players).

Colliwobblers

great work pat, awesome, just a matter of working out who now will move on to avoiding the vest the following year and

1. getting that "non sub" score you list, plus
2. the natural next year improvement.

I'm keen on Christensen for example I know he copped the vest a bit and will be better this season, only question is as it is with all players, will he avoid the vest now he is a year on?

Thanks again for the work 3 cheers :)