For the Techy boys

[pyronerd]

Always Quote Attribute Values

Attribute values should always be enclosed in quotes.

Double style quotes are the most common, but single style quotes are also allowed.

Tip: In some rare situations, when the attribute value itself contains quotes, it is necessary to use single quotes: name='John "ShotGun" Nelson'

How do I quote - It doesn't say it anywhere?

quotes are just "quote" or 'quote' i think

[Master Q]

The only thing I don't know is how to find those documents - but I'm sure it's not hard. Would could even create skins for FF.

Always Quote Attribute Values

Attribute values should always be enclosed in quotes.

Double style quotes are the most common, but single style quotes are also allowed.

Tip: In some rare situations, when the attribute value itself contains quotes, it is necessary to use single quotes: name='John "ShotGun" Nelson'

How do I quote - It doesn't say it anywhere?

quotes are just "quote" or 'quote' i think

Ah Ok. I'm sure I'll learn about it later even though I don't see it anywhere.

[bomberboy0618]

I might learn html now and css later as html is so easy.

[Master Q]

It won't take you 20 minutes BB... It'll take a few hours the way I look at it and I'll want to practice it so I'm 100% ready for XHTML and finally CSS.

Diary Entry 2#

Although I want to keep going, I think I've done enough learning for today. Like last time I've bookmarked where I am up to so I can jump straight back to where I am at the moment. For those wondering I just completed this chapter:'

http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_headings.asp

I think so far they've just been talking basic stuff which I am very confident with, HTML seems simple so far. I hope I can keep going.

-Q

[pyronerd]

good work Q ;) HTML is very simple to use, which is good if you only need to do something simple

[hawk_88]

Time for a big post....

(Presuming you are talking to me Hawk)

That's true. Although my teachers are you guys (mainly you and Valk by the looks of things) - I'm sticking to HTML (+ XHTML) and CSS for now. C and C++ will come later in life. For now HTML, XHTML and CSS is all I want as I'm looking at getting into more of the designing things with the Adobe range like making Icons, Skins, Firefox themes etc...

BB did you ask him? Are you interested in learning?

That particular post was a response to Alex however the advice holds true for everyone.

Firefox themes interestingly enough are one of the few general applications of CSS that isn't tied to HTML. You do have to edit a few XML files (HTML is a type of XML and uses the same syntax).

Exactly why I want to learn.
I figure that the more I know the more places I can get in life.

Be weary of becoming a jack of all trade, a master of none... Don't take that too literally as it is good to understand a lot of things and from that specialise (which is what you do throughout school and uni). Even when you have specialised, it is good to understand what others do to be able to collaborate with them. I guess what I am saying is don't expect to be an expert at everything. You also learn a lot from doing and less from explicitly sitting down for the purposes of learning. Whether it be from your own mistakes, seeing examples of other's work or finding that you have a gap in your knowledge when you can't work out how to do something.

Even in web design these days there is a number of specialised areas. You have tech, design, art, usability, business analysis and that is just your basic website. Add some heavy data driven stuff or large web based applications and you have another ball game all together.

For good general web design though, start with HTML, CSS, Photoshop/Illustrator. Then add javascript. Then look to add some server side language like php or ASP.net. Interestingly Photoshop/Illustrator will take the most time to even get the basics. I have been using photoshop extensively for 8 years and I would tentatively say I know maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of it. I learn new things nearly every week and I would say, without gloating, I am pretty damn good with Photoshop. Those skills will allow you to build 99% of the websites on the web at the moment.

How do I quote - It doesn't say it anywhere?

What it means by this is place the attribute values within quotation marks. i.e. attribute="value", not attribute=value .

i agree, i've tried it lol (while using w3schools) i could never seem to find a porgram to write C++ in though, APPARENTLY it doesn't work in notepad ::)

This one is a tricky one. You can write C++ in notepad. There are better programs out there to help you work more efficiently but notepad is enough, not that I would recommend it. In notepad you can write the code and save it into different files with extensions like *.cc *.h *.cpp . Then you run a program called a compiler to turn those text files into an executable ( and .exe file). It is more complicated than that but that is the basic process. I would recommend using a program (IDE) like Code::Blocks (http://www.codeblocks.org/) when learning. It keeps things pretty simple in terms of interface. You will need a few decent tutorials in C++ to fully understand how to use an IDE which is an Integrated Development Environment. What that means is that it is a program that combines the text editor (like notepad), the compiler and many other separate tools into a single program to help make programming easier and quicker. Hope that helps :)

[Master Q]

Be weary of becoming a jack of all trade, a master of none... Don't take that too literally as it is good to understand a lot of things and from that specialise (which is what you do throughout school and uni).

I totally agree - not meaning to point it out BB but Hawk in BB's case it's different as he's still in the early high school so there's still many worlds to discover.

I prefer to be a Master at one field and shocking at the other (my name) for example DT and SC (although I'm average at SC). Same with what I am talking about in this thread, I'd much rather be a pro at HTML/XHTML and CSS know next to nothing about C/C++ (for know)  :)

What it means by this is place the attribute values within quotation marks. i.e. attribute="value", not attribute=value .

Ah ok I get that. Thanks so much Hawk.

[hawk_88]

Be weary of becoming a jack of all trade, a master of none... Don't take that too literally as it is good to understand a lot of things and from that specialise (which is what you do throughout school and uni).

I totally agree - not meaning to point it out BB but Hawk in BB's case it's different as he's still in the early high school so there's still many worlds to discover.

I realised that when I wrote it and tried to clarify for his context, clearly though I wasn't clear enough in doing so.

Essentially your educational career is the process of specialisation. As you go through school, you select more specific subject until year 12 where you general pick the subjects you are good at/enjoy. Then you pick a specialisation, which may or may not specifically be job but often requires further education in a particular field. That further education (Uni/TAFE) general starts off much more general to give you a taste of the field than allows you to further specialise. The further you go (Honours, Masters, PhD) the more you specialise.

I guess my point is don't expect to be brilliant at everything. But I certainly suggest trying a lot of stuff to see what you enjoy and what you are good at. Even leaving high school quite a few people don't know what they want to do.

[roo boys!]

I'm confused already hahaha :P

Good luck Q :)

Going to uni for this or just online?

Just online - If I enjoy it and understand it well maybe I'll go to Uni for it but I don't think I'll need to.

Okay cool, sounds good :)

[valkorum]

I agree with the learning to understand quite a number of things and then specialize.  I start out doing web programming and then moved in to scripting/server side programming.  Then moved in to database and specialized in Oracle and now for the last 4 - 5 years have specialized in EDI (Edifact being my preference)