The 450-500k Mids

Started by enzedder, December 18, 2017, 08:30:55 AM

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crowls

Quote from: Fid on January 28, 2018, 06:14:36 PM
I've been tempted to add Blake Acres (DPP) in the fwds, instead of Billlings.
Do not see the benefit.   Billings is high probability of being top 3 of fwds.    why go with Acres?

quinny88

Quote from: crowls on January 29, 2018, 12:20:51 AM
Quote from: Fid on January 28, 2018, 06:14:36 PM
I've been tempted to add Blake Acres (DPP) in the fwds, instead of Billlings.
Do not see the benefit.   Billings is high probability of being top 3 of fwds.    why go with Acres?

Yeah I couldn't recommend that. Acres might be a good pick but a lot more risky

SilverLion

Quote from: quinny88 on January 29, 2018, 01:28:53 AM
Quote from: crowls on January 29, 2018, 12:20:51 AM
Quote from: Fid on January 28, 2018, 06:14:36 PM
I've been tempted to add Blake Acres (DPP) in the fwds, instead of Billlings.
Do not see the benefit.   Billings is high probability of being top 3 of fwds.    why go with Acres?

Yeah I couldn't recommend that. Acres might be a good pick but a lot more risky
+1

enzedder

Quote from: SilverLion on January 29, 2018, 10:08:37 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 29, 2018, 01:28:53 AM
Quote from: crowls on January 29, 2018, 12:20:51 AM
Quote from: Fid on January 28, 2018, 06:14:36 PM
I've been tempted to add Blake Acres (DPP) in the fwds, instead of Billlings.
Do not see the benefit.   Billings is high probability of being top 3 of fwds.    why go with Acres?

Yeah I couldn't recommend that. Acres might be a good pick but a lot more risky
+1
Also agree with the above. Risky.

RaisyDaisy

Every year we have a group in this price range that tempts us, and believe me I'm tempted too, but the odds of one of these turning into a good enough keeper pushing close to 110+ would be low, and even if you do happen to hit that 1 in 100 pick and they do go onto average 110 then what have you actually won? Saved less than 100k, that's all.

Don't muck around in the mids, leave that for def/fwd like a few of the others have said

For the sake of 50-70k more I'd be much more interested in getting someone like Hanners, or on the opposite end take a shot on Griffen if he looks fit and is good to go Rd1

Torpedo10

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2018, 07:33:44 PM
Every year we have a group in this price range that tempts us, and believe me I'm tempted too, but the odds of one of these turning into a good enough keeper pushing close to 110+ would be low, and even if you do happen to hit that 1 in 100 pick and they do go onto average 110 then what have you actually won? Saved less than 100k, that's all.

Don't muck around in the mids, leave that for def/fwd like a few of the others have said

For the sake of 50-70k more I'd be much more interested in getting someone like Hanners, or on the opposite end take a shot on Griffen if he looks fit and is good to go Rd1
Hanners is currently in my side, but at only 50-60k less than the other premiums is he really worth the ''risk''?

Adamant

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2018, 07:33:44 PM
Every year we have a group in this price range that tempts us, and believe me I'm tempted too, but the odds of one of these turning into a good enough keeper pushing close to 110+ would be low, and even if you do happen to hit that 1 in 100 pick and they do go onto average 110 then what have you actually won? Saved less than 100k, that's all.

Don't muck around in the mids, leave that for def/fwd like a few of the others have said

For the sake of 50-70k more I'd be much more interested in getting someone like Hanners, or on the opposite end take a shot on Griffen if he looks fit and is good to go Rd1

Marc Murphy was priced at 79.2 last season and went on to play 22 games @ 108.2. Those who picked him over the consensus 110+ mids in JPK, Neale, Treloar, Rockliff, Jelwood and Hanners would have reaped the rewards. I know I did.

Brad Ebert was priced at 80.1 and averaged 100.5 (and 109.2 up until Rd 14). I wouldn't say that he was a bad pick.

Bryce Gibbs 82.4 up to 105.9 the season before, was a borderline top 10 mid.

Probably numerous other examples too but those were the ones off the top of my head. The fact of the matter is nobody knows who the 110+ mids are going to be, history says that at least 5 of last years top 10 mids will not back it up this season. I'd much rather go all out and fill my midfield with stepping stones that can be quickly upgraded when we have some clarity around who the top 10 mids are going to be, and who knows, they might even be good enough to keep all year.

Samsturmfels

Quote from: Adamant on January 30, 2018, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2018, 07:33:44 PM
Every year we have a group in this price range that tempts us, and believe me I'm tempted too, but the odds of one of these turning into a good enough keeper pushing close to 110+ would be low, and even if you do happen to hit that 1 in 100 pick and they do go onto average 110 then what have you actually won? Saved less than 100k, that's all.

Don't muck around in the mids, leave that for def/fwd like a few of the others have said

For the sake of 50-70k more I'd be much more interested in getting someone like Hanners, or on the opposite end take a shot on Griffen if he looks fit and is good to go Rd1
Great Points Adamant
Marc Murphy was priced at 79.2 last season and went on to play 22 games @ 108.2. Those who picked him over the consensus 110+ mids in JPK, Neale, Treloar, Rockliff, Jelwood and Hanners would have reaped the rewards. I know I did.

Brad Ebert was priced at 80.1 and averaged 100.5 (and 109.2 up until Rd 14). I wouldn't say that he was a bad pick.

Bryce Gibbs 82.4 up to 105.9 the season before, was a borderline top 10 mid.

Probably numerous other examples too but those were the ones off the top of my head. The fact of the matter is nobody knows who the 110+ mids are going to be, history says that at least 5 of last years top 10 mids will not back it up this season. I'd much rather go all out and fill my midfield with stepping stones that can be quickly upgraded when we have some clarity around who the top 10 mids are going to be, and who knows, they might even be good enough to keep all year.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Adamant on January 30, 2018, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2018, 07:33:44 PM
Every year we have a group in this price range that tempts us, and believe me I'm tempted too, but the odds of one of these turning into a good enough keeper pushing close to 110+ would be low, and even if you do happen to hit that 1 in 100 pick and they do go onto average 110 then what have you actually won? Saved less than 100k, that's all.

Don't muck around in the mids, leave that for def/fwd like a few of the others have said

For the sake of 50-70k more I'd be much more interested in getting someone like Hanners, or on the opposite end take a shot on Griffen if he looks fit and is good to go Rd1

Marc Murphy was priced at 79.2 last season and went on to play 22 games @ 108.2. Those who picked him over the consensus 110+ mids in JPK, Neale, Treloar, Rockliff, Jelwood and Hanners would have reaped the rewards. I know I did.

Brad Ebert was priced at 80.1 and averaged 100.5 (and 109.2 up until Rd 14). I wouldn't say that he was a bad pick.

Bryce Gibbs 82.4 up to 105.9 the season before, was a borderline top 10 mid.

Probably numerous other examples too but those were the ones off the top of my head. The fact of the matter is nobody knows who the 110+ mids are going to be, history says that at least 5 of last years top 10 mids will not back it up this season. I'd much rather go all out and fill my midfield with stepping stones that can be quickly upgraded when we have some clarity around who the top 10 mids are going to be, and who knows, they might even be good enough to keep all year.

I don't really think you can include Murphy as he was a proven gun with a very solid history. Brad Ebert at 100 is nowhere near good enough

These guys being discussed - Dunstan, Conigs, etc guys who don't have a history of consistently achieving elite scoring is what this discussion refers to, and I can't think of too many that have turned out in this price range with their sort of history

Proven prems discounted due to injury are a completely different discussion. Like I said I am tempted myself to take a shot on someone like Conigs or even Libba especially but I just think you're much better off taking these sort of shots in the backline or forwards, and picking elite mids or much more proven ones who might have had an off year

Just my thoughts of course, but it's good that we all have different views otherwise our teams would all look the same ;)

Adamant

(C)onnor will average 109.6 and make those that don't pick him rue their decision.

AaronKirk

While it is near certain that would not be starting with mids in this price range there are 2 that have piqued my interest.

David Swallow is ready to play AFLX but likely to miss due the impending birth of his first child.

Obviously has the talent and there is a need for him to fill a void with the departure of Ablett. Is $468,500. Just needs to get his body right and he could easily be the best averaging Suns mid in 2018.

Dom Sheed is another I am looking at. Jumped to an 83.6 average in 2017. An increase in his contested ball and tackle numbers with more centre square time with the retirements of Mitchell and Priddis could see that average increase quite a bit. Could he get to an average around 100? Very possible. Would need to make a further jump to be a keeper but another to consider.

ubeaut

West coast and Gold coast mids are interesting in this price range. Obviously some players will get opportunities to replace Mitchell,Priddis and Ablett. But who? People are picking Barlow and Hanley to step up but there's Swallow,Sexton etc as well. At WC there's Redden,Duggan,Shuey and Sheed. Picking the right one/s is hard.

SilverLion

Quote from: ubeaut on January 31, 2018, 10:42:56 AM
West coast and Gold coast mids are interesting in this price range. Obviously some players will get opportunities to replace Mitchell,Priddis and Ablett. But who? People are picking Barlow and Hanley to step up but there's Swallow,Sexton etc as well. At WC there's Redden,Duggan,Shuey and Sheed. Picking the right one/s is hard.
Lyons the only one in either team if consider. Barlow as a forward too of course.

js19

Quote from: SilverLion on January 31, 2018, 09:01:56 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on January 31, 2018, 10:42:56 AM
West coast and Gold coast mids are interesting in this price range. Obviously some players will get opportunities to replace Mitchell,Priddis and Ablett. But who? People are picking Barlow and Hanley to step up but there's Swallow,Sexton etc as well. At WC there's Redden,Duggan,Shuey and Sheed. Picking the right one/s is hard.
Lyons the only one in either team if consider. Barlow as a forward too of course.

Not much talk of Lyons. Price is too awkward as a Mid I reckon. Not much chance of being a keeper there