2019 Rookies

[RaisyDaisy]

Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side

B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore

HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta

Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?

Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them

I've already said, Frost is the guy who is more like for like for May to come back. If Hore does enough come Round 1 I think he offers more to the Dees than playing Frost who is 194cm. Hore stands at 189cm and is much more athletic.

O McDonald already stands at 196cm and May at 193cm. Add in TMac, Weidemann, Gawny and possibly Preuss I don't think they can take in THAT many guys.

Yeah I'm not asking about Frost - May takes his spot

Who is a threat to Hore? Frost isn't. Lever is out for a while, so other than possibly Jayden Hunt and Joel Smith, is anyone threatening Hore? Or is he actually a better pick than what Dees supporters seem to think?

[_wato]

Hunt and Smith were both trialled as forwards in JLT, think they'll be looking for spots up the other end of the ground personally.

[_wato]

As for Scrimshaw I'm of the same view as what was written on the AFL website today.

'Ex-Sun Jack Scrimshaw is the most likely debutant for Hawthorn's opening game of the season against the Crows. He's had an excellent summer and gathered 12 touches against the Tigers in the first term of their JLT clash. He still has work to do in terms of conditioning but has shown enough to earn an early call-up'

the lad stands at 193cm and 90kg's. Can put him on the back flank, wing, wherever. A lot of rookies need more work and extra conditioning but everybody knows that. Just don't know how secure his spot is. Hawks have quite an injury list in terms of their A grade talent.

[AaronKirk]

As for Scrimshaw I'm of the same view as what was written on the AFL website today.

'Ex-Sun Jack Scrimshaw is the most likely debutant for Hawthorn's opening game of the season against the Crows. He's had an excellent summer and gathered 12 touches against the Tigers in the first term of their JLT clash. He still has work to do in terms of conditioning but has shown enough to earn an early call-up'

the lad stands at 193cm and 90kg's. Can put him on the back flank, wing, wherever. A lot of rookies need more work and extra conditioning but everybody knows that. Just don't know how secure his spot is. Hawks have quite an injury list in terms of their A grade talent.

Not the worst placeholder to have though in defense until teams are names. I suspect he plays as well but If worse comes to worse and he isn't named it's an easy fix if other cheap options are named.  I don't have Duursma in my current side so that for example could be a simple swap to make.

[Money Shot]

ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this

u want Collins at d5 imo

Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)

I’m pretty content on this set up.

All seem to have relatively good job security.

Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.

lol

How can Scrimshaw have good job security after Clarko's comments today? And Hore doesn't have good JS whatsoever.

+1

Scrimshaw/Hore both seem to be very dicey selections. I'd have 1 at most in the side for now - need a backup plan to bring in Collins/Marsh just in case

I'm not touching Hore - absolute trap I reckon. Of course I could be wrong, but if he has 2 good rounds then I'll bring him in, but I don't think that's going to happen

I don't like scrimshaw or hore either, if Ben McKay gets a gig, I'll be jumping on.  I don't think he did too badly in the JLT series

Mckay will play i reckon. His scoring might not b that great. With tarrant out i think he plays

@Tomk I stand by my comments about Scrimshaw and Hore.

I reckon Lever is the only one who could take Hore’s spot but he is a while away and at 117k if he scores 60 or so most weeks which doesn’t seem unrealistic he will be a great bench option and make some decent cash before he is dropped.

As I said Scrimshaw the most concerning of the lot but I still reckon he plays round 1. If he plays well he holds his spot but if he doesn’t I’m sure there’s plenty of other blokes who could come in.

[Big Mac]

Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side

B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore

HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta

Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?

Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them

I've already said, Frost is the guy who is more like for like for May to come back. If Hore does enough come Round 1 I think he offers more to the Dees than playing Frost who is 194cm. Hore stands at 189cm and is much more athletic.

O McDonald already stands at 196cm and May at 193cm. Add in TMac, Weidemann, Gawny and possibly Preuss I don't think they can take in THAT many guys.

Yeah I'm not asking about Frost - May takes his spot

Who is a threat to Hore? Frost isn't. Lever is out for a while, so other than possibly Jayden Hunt and Joel Smith, is anyone threatening Hore? Or is he actually a better pick than what Dees supporters seem to think?

I think a lot of us rated Smith and the coaches seemed to like him, but now that he's moved forward a spot has opened up. There is no genuine replacement so it looks like Hore may get first crack, but he hasn't exactly set the world on fire in JLT. If he doesn't play well i'd expect Hibberd to play a little taller with someone like Fritsch potentially rotating, and wait until Kolodjashnij (191cm) is ready who is 3 weeks away. Could also keep persisting with Hunt.

[quinny88]

Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side

B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore

HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta

Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?

Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them

I've already said, Frost is the guy who is more like for like for May to come back. If Hore does enough come Round 1 I think he offers more to the Dees than playing Frost who is 194cm. Hore stands at 189cm and is much more athletic.

O McDonald already stands at 196cm and May at 193cm. Add in TMac, Weidemann, Gawny and possibly Preuss I don't think they can take in THAT many guys.

Yeah I'm not asking about Frost - May takes his spot

Who is a threat to Hore? Frost isn't. Lever is out for a while, so other than possibly Jayden Hunt and Joel Smith, is anyone threatening Hore? Or is he actually a better pick than what Dees supporters seem to think?

I think a lot of us rated Smith and the coaches seemed to like him, but now that he's moved forward a spot has opened up. There is no genuine replacement so it looks like Hore may get first crack, but he hasn't exactly set the world on fire in JLT. If he doesn't play well i'd expect Hibberd to play a little taller with someone like Fritsch potentially rotating, and wait until Kolodjashnij (191cm) is ready who is 3 weeks away. Could also keep persisting with Hunt.

What actually caused the fallout with hunt anyway? I thought he was a gun a couple of years ago and has blistering pace off half back

[ben_020285]

Dees supporter here.

My opinion is that Hore is in for Lever. Frost will be in for May for round 1.

Obviously if Hore stinks it up for weeks on end then he’s back to the VFL but otherwise his JS looks solid until Lever is back mid-season.

[RaisyDaisy]

Thanks guys

That's what I've thought too, so I think I can actually put Hore in my side now

Certainly looks like he should be fine for a bench option, because like Ben says as long as he doesn't completely shower the bed he probably should be able to string a few games together

[SilverLion]

Kolodjashnij should also come in at some stage I would've thought.

[RaisyDaisy]

Kolodjashnij should also come in at some stage I would've thought.

Mac just said he is 3 weeks away

I'm sure he'll come back through the VFL anyway

[ben_020285]

Kolodjashnij should also come in at some stage I would've thought.

KK on a wing will have no impact on Hore’s place in the team.

[jfitty]

Kolodjashnij should also come in at some stage I would've thought.

KK on a wing will have no impact on Hore’s place in the team.

You'd think they'd be cautious with him anyway, by the time he's in the senior team Hore will be ready to downgrade.

[hawkers65]

Whose everyone starting at M8 this week? Butters, Con or Scott? I think i'm gonna go Scott.

[LaHug]

Who's everyone starting at M8 this week? Butters, Con or Scott? I think i'm gonna go Scott.

Assuming Walsh is M7, yeah? I've got Butters at the moment but will likely change about 10 times...