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Title: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 10:09:48 AM
BOX HILL HAWKS vs FOOTSCRAY BULLDOGS - 2:15 Sunday at Etihat Stadium

Dogs made the Grand Final in our first year as a stand-alone club. Defeated the mighty Port Melbourne to earn a shot at the premiership.

Hawks looking to go back-to-back. Just got over the line against the Dogs' former VFL affiliated team and 2014 Foxtel Cup winners Williamstown.

Lin Jong to be best on and Liam Jones to kick a bag to inflate his asking price since he's probably seeking a trade.

Footscray (then known as the-tri colours) have good form in VFA/VFL Grand Finals. Last time we were in this competition (1886-1924) and after the 1896 split that saw the VFL (now AFL) formed, we won 9 premierships between 1898 and 1924. This included a hat-trick from 1898 to 1900 and four premierships between 1919 and 1924. Then joined the VFL in 1925. Time to reclaim our dominance!
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mat0369 on September 17, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
The Dogs smashed Port in the last quarter. I had no idea Jordan Russell was playing for the Dogs until I saw the game on the weekend. He was the co-captain with I think Prismall on the day. He ended up kicking one after the siren which I think was the 10th goal of the last quarter. The Hawks looked good with Big Boy in the team, I think he might get a call up to the seniors this week, but if Cyril comes through the reserves this weekend (which I doubt) that should make it an interesting game to watch. Litherland, Shoenmakers and Suckling might also all be suiting up for Box Hill
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: meow meow on September 17, 2014, 04:46:56 PM
Nick Lower is the captain of the VFL side and Russell and Prismal were just filling in for the injured captain.

Cyril won't be allowed to play since he hasn't played any VFL games this year. They got away with McEvoy being allowed to play despite playing 1 less game than the required amount but allowing Rioli to get a run is simply unfair. That'd be like us being allowed to put Griffen in.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mat0369 on September 17, 2014, 04:59:33 PM
The reason they had to get an exemption for Big Boy is that the Hawks had a week off going straight into the prelim. If the AFL side has a final that week they can play whomever they like in the reserves making Big Boy eligible along with Cyril for the VFL GF if they choose to play them in the reserves this week.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mat0369 on September 17, 2014, 05:02:02 PM
Just found this article, apparently Cyril was eligible to play in the VFL last week  :o

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/rioli-wont-play-vfl-this-weekend-say-hawks-20140906-10ddqf.html
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mat0369 on September 17, 2014, 05:04:56 PM
And an article from after the game

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/box-hill-hawks-looking-to-go-backtoback-in-vfl-grand-final-20140914-10gupa.html

QuoteThere will be no questions asked about his validity in the team next week as all Hawthorn-listed players are eligible to play in the VFL grand final because its AFL team plays on the same weekend.
It means Ryan Schoenmakers, who had a quiet display in the Young Guns exhibition game as the curtain raiser to the clash, and Matt Suckling, who missed because he failed a fitness test on Friday, and even perhaps Cyril Rioli  - if Hawthorn saw it as a preferred option - could play in the VFL grand final against the Dogs next week.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Capper on September 17, 2014, 05:46:13 PM
i couldnt see them risking any of those 3 last weekend though
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 17, 2014, 06:16:38 PM
Hope Footscray get up.  8)
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Capper on September 18, 2014, 07:05:30 PM
And Cyril is in for Box Hill!!!!
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mat0369 on September 18, 2014, 08:53:43 PM
It is his first game in the VFL ever
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 19, 2014, 10:33:39 AM
Full back    32. M Talia    43. J Redpath    47. M Austin
Half back    33. S Darley    37. L Markovic    31. T Young
Centreline    39. J Johannisen    44. B. Goodes    30. C Howard
Half forward    1. J Grant    19. L Jones    15. J Tutt
Full forward    29. T Dickson    45. T Campbell    34. A Greenwood
Followers    49. A. Cordy    46. L Jong    55. N Lower
Interchange (from)    65. J Russell    56. W Hayes    59. M Jensen
     57. M. Fogarty    22. M Honeychurch    68. A. Barry
     50. B Prismall    51. J. Perkins    20. D Pearce


That's the Footscray team.

Nick Lower might play.  :o
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Big Mac on September 19, 2014, 08:37:03 PM
Considering going to this game
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 20, 2014, 11:39:55 AM
Based on squads alone, Box Hill will destroy.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Big Mac on September 20, 2014, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 20, 2014, 11:39:55 AM
Based on squads alone, Box Hill will destroy.

You don't think it will be much of a game?
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 20, 2014, 12:02:44 PM
Will be if you're a Box Hill supporter. I may possibly be a tad biased though.  ;) Doesn't help that I don't rate a number of those Bulldog players.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2014, 12:05:23 PM
Yeah, the Box Hill squad is better for sure. But Footscray did beat Port Melbourne so I'm not gonna count them out.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mat0369 on September 20, 2014, 01:58:46 PM
Footscray have Jordan Russell, that automatically makes them the best team in the comp
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Capper on September 20, 2014, 02:05:46 PM
has the box hills team been named yet?
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: _wato on September 20, 2014, 02:45:45 PM
This is what I could find of the Box Hill team to take on Footscray at Etihad Stadium, 2:15pm on Sunday.

FB: Brand, Schoenmakers, Cheney
HB: Heatherley, Litherland, Ross
C: Hartung, Sewell, Willsmore
HF: O'Brien, Woodward, Rioli
F:, Grimley, Sicily, B. McEvoy
R: Lowden, Kelly, Hallahan

Int (from): Murphy, Lock, Mirra
Collins, Tobin, P. McEvoy
Iles, Andrews, Papadopoulos*

Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 11:56:06 AM
Sewell has been withdrawn from the Box Hill team.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Grazz on September 21, 2014, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 11:56:06 AM
Sewell has been withdrawn from the Box Hill team.

Interesting, seems he is a big chance to make the cut for the GF then.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Grazz on September 21, 2014, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 11:56:06 AM
Sewell has been withdrawn from the Box Hill team.

Interesting, seems he is a big chance to make the cut for the GF then.
I think it's more precautionary in case Lewis doesn't get up. Apparently Lewis' corkie was slightly worse than the average one and so they wanted Sewell with the main group instead of running around in the VFL.

I wonder what the odds are of both Sewell and Lewis both playing and Cyril being sub are.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 02:11:27 PM
Coverage starting on ABC for those keen to watch.  :)
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 21, 2014, 02:13:19 PM
come on Footscray!

geez Etihad looks rough
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2014, 02:11:27 PM
Coverage starting on ABC for those keen to watch.  :)

Keen, just not in the right state.  :(

Guess I'll have to catch some of the stream on the VFL site.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 02:14:40 PM
It is going to be streamed right? Right??
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 02:17:53 PM
Great to see Pete McEvoy in the side again. Thought he was pretty handy vs Port.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Master Q on September 21, 2014, 02:22:59 PM
Footscray stacked with AFL talent. Should be a good game.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 21, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
loving the national album
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Master Q on September 21, 2014, 02:30:57 PM
Rioli getting boo'ed  :P
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 21, 2014, 02:51:21 PM
Jarrad Grant ... or Duddy Mcshowercow?
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 03:03:20 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 21, 2014, 02:22:59 PM
Footscray stacked with AFL talent. Should be a good game.
So are Box Hill.  :P

But yeah, been a good game so far though, fairly even contest.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 21, 2014, 03:06:38 PM
that's the only way he'll kick a goal. off the goal line
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 03:22:41 PM
Jordan Russell is killing it, looks a class above
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: MajorLazer on September 21, 2014, 03:24:54 PM
So almost no chance of Rioli playing next week on this performance. Looks real rusty.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 03:26:18 PM
Come on Box, pull yer finger out.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 21, 2014, 03:24:54 PM
So almost no chance of Rioli playing next week on this performance. Looks real rusty.
Reckon he'll still come in as sub.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 03:31:39 PM
The Dogs are playing really well.

As Chumpy said, Jordan Russell is killing it!

James Sicily's been doing pretty well for the Hawks.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
Sicily will definitely get some games next year.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 03:49:48 PM
Good comeback by the Hawks.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 03:53:44 PM
This game looks like it's gonna do down to the wire.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 04:00:03 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 21, 2014, 03:24:54 PM
So almost no chance of Rioli playing next week on this performance. Looks real rusty.
Reckon he'll still come in as sub.
That passage was worrying if you saw it. Fast break into an open goal and he didn't get anywhere near full pace  :-X
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 04:07:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 04:00:03 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 21, 2014, 03:24:54 PM
So almost no chance of Rioli playing next week on this performance. Looks real rusty.
Reckon he'll still come in as sub.
That passage was worrying if you saw it. Fast break into an open goal and he didn't get anywhere near full pace  :-X
I thought he was gonna just steam ahead and nail it through the open goal. Gonna be very interesting to see if he's picked or not.

Hawks have control now. C'mon 'scray, fight back!
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 04:10:29 PM
Sounds like it's been a good one so far.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 04:10:29 PM
Sounds like it's been a good one so far.
It was to half time. All Hawks this quarter tbh.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 04:12:53 PM
That's the good part.  :P
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 04:14:31 PM
1.3 for Grant plus one out on the full, hopefully that's not the difference for the Dogs.

Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 04:16:01 PM
Footscray getting some momentum back!

Reminiscent of last quarter except the roles reversed
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 04:18:12 PM
This is a lot better than the Port vs Tigers and Swans vs North combined.  :P
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 04:18:44 PM
Tightening up in the SANFL GF too.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 04:25:25 PM
Billy the Kid. Another one I'd love to see more of next year.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 04:27:59 PM
Footscray 10.7.67
Box Hill 11.7.73

Fantastic game, nice and close and still very much on the line for either side to win.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 04:32:32 PM
Nat Edwards ‏@NatEdwards_AFL now

At 1/2 time I thought no way would I play Rioli in the GF. But after the 3rd term...I'm starting to change my mind
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 04:41:44 PM
Here we go, come on boys!
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 04:45:40 PM
Wow, okay then.  :-\
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: MajorLazer on September 21, 2014, 04:46:16 PM
So reckon we could get anything for Schoey after this performance?
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 04:48:11 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 21, 2014, 04:46:16 PM
So reckon we could get anything for Schoey after this performance?

Hopefully we can pull a swifty on someone.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 04:48:58 PM
Flowering hell. COME ON BOX HILL.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 04:58:45 PM
Jarrad Grant's behind might just win this match.  :o
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 05:00:35 PM
Liam Jones! Unreal!
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 05:00:44 PM
Jarrad Grant and Liam Jones have won this game...  :o :o :o
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 21, 2014, 05:02:37 PM
Guess I underestimated the Doggies. Well played.  :'(
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 05:07:06 PM
Well done Footscray!
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 05:09:30 PM
Ripper grand final that one. Should've gone to the ground.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Big Mac on September 21, 2014, 05:09:57 PM
Well done to the Dogs - Lin Jong was great that qtr, enough for best-on though?
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 05:12:16 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on September 21, 2014, 05:09:57 PM
Well done to the Dogs - Lin Jong was great that qtr, enough for best-on though?
Definitely a chance. 29 touches
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 05:16:09 PM
Brett Goodes wins best-on.

I wonder if he'll find himself back in the AFL Dogs 22 next season.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mat0369 on September 21, 2014, 05:27:32 PM
I forgot this was on
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Capper on September 21, 2014, 05:46:29 PM
Jong with 7ks and 24 HBs and Goodes easily BOG.

But isnt Jong on the chopping block??
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 06:03:52 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 21, 2014, 05:46:29 PM
Jong with 7ks and 24 HBs and Goodes easily BOG.

But isnt Jong on the chopping block??
Chopping block?

He just got elevated to the senior list.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on September 21, 2014, 07:30:42 PM
flowerin spewin I missed the 2nd half.

the replay is on Wednesday night/Thursday morning at 2am on ABC if anyone wanted to watch it

go Footscray!
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Mat0369 on September 21, 2014, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: brad on September 21, 2014, 07:30:42 PM
flowerin spewin I missed the 2nd half.

the replay is on Wednesday night/Thursday morning at 2am on ABC if anyone wanted to watch it

go Footscray!

They put up the VFL last year on ABC iview. I could access it on my 360 and watch games on there which was great.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: quinny88 on September 21, 2014, 07:36:24 PM
I would be dirty if I was the box hill coach. Obviously it was under Hawthorns instructions to sit Cyril on the bench all of the last quarter which had them down on rotations and got over ran.

Obviously Hawthorn have bigger fish to fry but playing him may have cost them the game
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on September 21, 2014, 07:36:24 PM
I would be dirty if I was the box hill coach. Obviously it was under Hawthorns instructions to sit Cyril on the bench all of the last quarter which had them down on rotations and got over ran.

Obviously Hawthorn have bigger fish to fry but playing him may have cost them the game
Oath. Especially after Iles went down it was a near impossible task.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Nige on September 21, 2014, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 21, 2014, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on September 21, 2014, 07:36:24 PM
I would be dirty if I was the box hill coach. Obviously it was under Hawthorns instructions to sit Cyril on the bench all of the last quarter which had them down on rotations and got over ran.

Obviously Hawthorn have bigger fish to fry but playing him may have cost them the game
Oath. Especially after Iles went down it was a near impossible task.
Yeah, exactly.

Andrews going down early, and then Iles later in the game really didn't help but Cyril was likely to get mothballed which sucked for Box Hill.
Title: Re: 2014 VFL Grand Final
Post by: Ziplock on September 21, 2014, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 21, 2014, 06:03:52 PM
Quote from: tabs on September 21, 2014, 05:46:29 PM
Jong with 7ks and 24 HBs and Goodes easily BOG.

But isnt Jong on the chopping block??
Chopping block?

He just got elevated to the senior list.