Just thought we needed a thread to capture what everyone thoughts were regarding DPP changes for next year.
Let me know what you think and i will update this OP.
Crows
Danger from M/F to Mid only
Lions
Hanley from M/B to Mid only
Martin from F/R to Ruck only
Blues
Rowe from R/F to Back only
Pies
Langdon from M/B to Back only
Dons
Hurley from Fwd only to F/B
Gleeson from Mid only to B/M
Colyer from Mid only to M/F
Freo
Clarke from Ruck only to R/F
Cats
Kelly from Mid only to M/B
Frawley from Back only to B/F
Suns
Martin from Mid only to M/F
Bennell from Mid only to M/F
Giants
Bugg from Back only to B/M
Hawks
Hale from R/F to Fwd only
Cegalr from Ruck only to R/F
Langford from Back only to Mid only
Dees
Gawn from Ruck only to R/F
Howe from Fwd only to F/B
North
Boomer from M/F to Mid only
NDS from Mid only to M/B
Ziebell from Min only to M/F
Brown from R/F to Fwd only
Turner from Mid only to M/F
MacDonald from M/B to Back only
Power
Wingard from M/F to Fwd only
Tiges
Gordon from Mid only to M/F
Saints
Geary from Back only to B/M
Swans
Cunners from Mid only to M/B
McVeigh from M/B to Mid only
Titch changes from M/F to Mid only
KJack from Mid only to M/F
Bird from M/F to Mid only
McGlynn from M/F to Mid only
Eagles
Lycett from Ruck only to R/F
Bennell from Mid only to M/B
Dogs
Bonti from Mid only to M/F
I Think Ziebell is a chance for DPP but not many others do but i hope he does
Bennell M/F
Ceglar R/F
Patton D/F ?
Turner M/F
Gleeson D/M
Colyer M/F
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2014, 12:16:00 AM
I Think Ziebell is a chance for DPP but not many others do but i hope he does
Bennell M/F
Ceglar R/F
Patton D/F ?
Turner M/F
Gleeson D/M
Colyer M/F
which Bennell?? i will update the OP
Harley
Does Daisy go F/B, F/M or M/B??
Daisy not sure but should get forward status
Duncan a few people tipping to get M/F
Jamie Bennell to def maybe DPP mid
Langford to mid only
Does LMac keep DPP?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2014, 12:16:00 AM
I Think Ziebell is a chance for DPP but not many others do but i hope he does
Bennell M/F
Ceglar R/F
Patton D/F ?
Turner M/F
Gleeson D/M
Colyer M/F
im not sure on Patton
Quote from: luvfooty on September 14, 2014, 12:25:29 AM
Jamie Bennell to def only
X.Ellis to def only
Langford to mid only
Does LMac keep DPP?
i will change the title to DDP and Position changes to incorporate these as well
Bennell might get DPP but not sure
And I took Ellis off he may keep his DPP
Quote from: luvfooty on September 14, 2014, 12:25:29 AM
Jamie Bennell to def maybe DPP mid
Langford to mid only
Does LMac keep DPP?
does Lmac lose M or B??
Quote from: tabs on September 14, 2014, 12:29:55 AM
Quote from: luvfooty on September 14, 2014, 12:25:29 AM
Jamie Bennell to def maybe DPP mid
Langford to mid only
Does LMac keep DPP?
does Lmac lose M or B??
He'd lose mid if anything
Broady will definitely lose midfield status. Did he lose it already? I never saw the mid-season changes.
Mitch Duncan Mid/Fwd for sure.
Swallow will lose def status
From pies
Blair to forward only
Gault to forward?
Dwyer may be mid only too
Josh Thomas may be a fwd/mid but hard to tell when these players didn't play enough games
Daisy to M/F
Rowe to D only
Yarran to D only
Brad Shepperd might get def dpp or be def only
Elliott Yeo might be mid only or get dpp mid/def
Highly unlikely, but Westhoff to F/B?
Savage to gain DEF status
Quote from: tabs on September 14, 2014, 12:09:14 AM
Hale from R/F to Fwd only
Will definitely keep DPP. Averaged 16.4 hitouts so probably attended 30 odd ruck contests a game.
My thoughts of some of the DT Relevant dpp changes ones are (from AFL Fantasy with NDS currently dpp) -
Swallow, McVeigh, Hanley to mid only
Stanton possible smokie for def/mid
Bartel mid/fwd
Swanny, Lids, Bont, Ziebell mid/fwd. Lids would just about a lock for it IMO
Taylor Adams? Has he played fwd enough, should be cheap.
Stef Martin to ruck only
Parker, Duncan, Caddy to mid only
Ricky Petterd??? def/mid/fwd? Would be one of those players worthy of it, plays everywhere it seems.
Possible quality rookies who could/should have dpp include
Reid def/fwd
Josh Glenn, De Goey and Corey Ellis def/mid
Vardy, McBean ruc/fwd
Petracca, Karnezis, Caleb Daniel mid/fwd
Goddard played forward for a bit, I wonder if it would have been enough?
Quote from: Scrads on September 15, 2014, 12:58:10 PM
Goddard played forward for a bit, I wonder if it would have been enough?
Possibly, but at this stage I'm doubting it. I think Lids is more likely to get it tbh
I can see Deledio getting it. Started and played forward a lot in the second half of the season
Edit: Deledio was in the top 5 at the club for goals, inside 50s, marks I50, goal assists.
Guthrie from Def to Mid only.
Mayes from F/M to D/F
Quote from: Nosaj on September 15, 2014, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: Scrads on September 15, 2014, 12:58:10 PM
Goddard played forward for a bit, I wonder if it would have been enough?
Possibly, but at this stage I'm doubting it. I think Lids is more likely to get it tbh
i think with the subs being restricted next year then i think they change the specs on who gets fwd status next year
Langford been playing forward lately but doubt it enough to get forward status
and Jack Crisp is a good chance for M/F i think
i'm thinking Salem will get M/F status also
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 03, 2014, 02:01:16 AM
i'm thinking Salem will get M/F status also
Now I get to not pick him in two positions.
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 03, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 03, 2014, 02:01:16 AM
i'm thinking Salem will get M/F status also
Now I get to not pick him in two positions.
HAHA ;D
Not even kidding though, what were his junior numbers like? Any chance of some mid time next year?
Quote from: Scrads on October 06, 2014, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 03, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 03, 2014, 02:01:16 AM
i'm thinking Salem will get M/F status also
Now I get to not pick him in two positions.
HAHA ;D
Not even kidding though, what were his junior numbers like? Any chance of some mid time next year?
He averaged 23 disposals in his final year of TAC (only five games) and 20.5 in the VFL this year. Apart from one good game he just didn't seem to cope with the pace of AFL. It's going to be a disaster for Melbourne if him and Toumpas don't live up to their hype.
Salem showed glimpses he can play and will benefit from a full preseason with Roos
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 06, 2014, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Scrads on October 06, 2014, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 03, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 03, 2014, 02:01:16 AM
i'm thinking Salem will get M/F status also
Now I get to not pick him in two positions.
HAHA ;D
Not even kidding though, what were his junior numbers like? Any chance of some mid time next year?
He averaged 23 disposals in his final year of TAC (only five games) and 20.5 in the VFL this year. Apart from one good game he just didn't seem to cope with the pace of AFL. It's going to be a disaster for Melbourne if him and Toumpas don't live up to their hype.
I was more under the impression that he just spent a considerable amount of time up forward and also as the sub which contributed to his low numbers :o
Quote from: Scrads on October 07, 2014, 12:36:00 AM
I was more under the impression that he just spent a considerable amount of time up forward and also as the sub which contributed to his low numbers :o
He was sub for 5/12 games. In the games he did start he had -
8 disposals vs Richmond
16 disposals vs Port
7 disposals vs Collingwood
2 disposals vs North (Red vested in 3rd term)
8 disposals vs WB
7 disposals vs Fremantle
7 disposals vs GWS
Quote from: Mr.Craig on October 07, 2014, 12:46:19 AM
Quote from: Scrads on October 07, 2014, 12:36:00 AM
I was more under the impression that he just spent a considerable amount of time up forward and also as the sub which contributed to his low numbers :o
He was sub for 5/12 games. In the games he did start he had -
8 disposals vs Richmond
16 disposals vs Port
7 disposals vs Collingwood
2 disposals vs North (Red vested in 3rd term)
8 disposals vs WB
7 disposals vs Fremantle
7 disposals vs GWS
He did play though as a small forward most of the time, which was a tough position when the ball didn't get down there that often. He did struggle to keep up with the pace at times, but I still have faith, he's only played 12 games so plenty of time.
To go with Deledio Goddard Ziebell Cooney and Swan all getting forward status this morning...
Pearce Hanley, Sam Mitchell and Luke Parker have all lost #AFLFantasy DPP. They will be MID only in 2015
Quote from: Ricochet on December 12, 2014, 10:37:08 AM
To go with Deledio Goddard Ziebell Cooney and Swan all getting forward status this morning...
Pearce Hanley, Sam Mitchell and Luke Parker have all lost #AFLFantasy DPP. They will be MID only in 2015
Danger and Swallow mid only also
Lids Goddard and Swan all FWD DPP?!?
which do I start with?
honestly not surprised about those that lost it
What about Jimmy Bartel and Daisy Thomas? :-\
Yep just to go over them again
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-12/fantasy-positions-revealed
Danger, McGlynn, Parker, KJack all LOSE FWD status
SMitchell, DSwallow, Guthrie, Hanley all LOSE DEF status
Swan, Deledio, Christensen, Goddard, Cooney, Ziebell all GAIN FWD status
McCartin FWD
Petracca FWD/MID
Brayshaw MID
Pickett FWD/MID
De Goey MID
Moore DEF/FWD
keen to see Petracca's price
seems unlikely to me that there are only 14 changes from last season
I don't think that's a full list
edit: oh, AFL seems to indicate that they're the only "fantasy" relevant players
with regards to Petracca, I think he'll be similarly priced to KKolo, which means that I'd be VERY surprised to see him under 275k
Quote from: pommyadam on December 12, 2014, 11:00:51 AM
seems unlikely to me that there are only 14 changes from last season
I don't think that's a full list
nobody is claiming it is, it's just like a highlight reel
its moving to a point where we just pick 22 mids and can have unlimited trades every week.
I wanted Swan as a mid POD now he is just a forward lock.
Hanley DPP 2016, bring it on. 8)
Boring, but I'm not surprised. Knew Swan, Lids and Ziebell would get it. The others were a bit unexpected.
Now everybody will have the same forward line next year. :P
Quote from: Adamant on December 12, 2014, 12:21:20 PM
Boring, but I'm not surprised. Knew Swan, Lids and Ziebell would get it. The others were a bit unexpected.
Now everybody will have the same forward line next year. :P
Why's that? DPP is just a tactical option. Still have to balance spending. Post mid season teams are similar regardless. Perhaps Buddy, Zorko, Cloke, Hawkins or Wright types will be the PODS. Now that would be something ;D
Have been calling Lids DPP for a while now 8)
Quote from: T Dog on December 12, 2014, 12:40:17 PM
Cloke, Hawkins or Wright types will be the PODS. Now that would be something ;D
and there goes your DT season
Quote from: pommyadam on December 12, 2014, 02:28:54 PM
Quote from: T Dog on December 12, 2014, 12:40:17 PM
Cloke, Hawkins or Wright types will be the PODS. Now that would be something ;D
and there goes your DT season
+1
Nothing so far that wasn't kind of expected.
Quote from: T Dog on December 12, 2014, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: Adamant on December 12, 2014, 12:21:20 PM
Boring, but I'm not surprised. Knew Swan, Lids and Ziebell would get it. The others were a bit unexpected.
Now everybody will have the same forward line next year. :P
Why's that? DPP is just a tactical option. Still have to balance spending. Post mid season teams are similar regardless. Perhaps Buddy, Zorko, Cloke, Hawkins or Wright types will be the PODS. Now that would be something ;D
DPP would be just a tactical option with limited trades. But DPP with 2 trades a week, especially when they give DPP to absolute proven midfield guns just makes the game far too easy in terms of picking your starting team. For mine, if they are so hell bent on giving the likes of Swan DPP status then they should be considering capping the amount of DPP players you can have per line.
Swan was a really interesting risk or reward type selection this year.....now he is just someone you basically have to pick.
Quote from: dirkdiggler on December 12, 2014, 06:19:01 PM
Swan was a really interesting risk or reward type selection this year.....now he is just someone you basically have to pick.
is he though?
DPP will price him around the 500k mark, which means that he'll have to get back up to ~100 to be worth the cash
now, will he be getting back into the midfield (Beams has gone, but Adams won't continue to be sub, and I'll be damned if Greenwood doesn't play every game) so he'll probably stick forward
given that he puts minimal effort into NAB anyway (so you can't really tell how he'll be scoring) then it's a speculative punt if you pick him
based on this season: opening rounds
Brisbane: 96
Adelaide: 79
StKilda: Did not play
Essendon: 57 and 122 (122 in the anzac game)
Carlton: 102
so that actually rates him LOWER than his price (if he scored exactly the same as this year) - so he'd actually lose value by rd7 (93.7 season average, 91.2 average of that period)
plus he's another year older, and may spend even more time up forward
I personally will be sticking with the likes of Dusty/Lids, who are a lot more consistent and pose the higher ceiling (and are still key midfield components of their sides)
and from a more interesting note, it appeared that he'd lost his ability to score well this year - sure he was getting a few tons (8 tons in a 9 week period) but only 2 of them were over 120
he can still notch them up, but (in my opinion) the big scores that we know and love are behind him
also, you could've said the same about Dangerfield this season, but there were no end of coaches that were maddened by him (especially with a last-6 game average of only 89)
I think the safest bet is to use Swan as an upgrade target and go with those we are surer of.
that's how I'm looking at it
if he performs well, then he may well be on my list of early-upgrade (though Goddard this season showed why that's not the best option)
Quote from: pommyadam on December 12, 2014, 07:02:29 PM
that's how I'm looking at it
if he performs well, then he may well be on my list of early-upgrade (though Goddard this season showed why that's not the best option)
Yeh Goddard dropped off last year as it wore on. It can happen.
Quote from: pommyadam on December 12, 2014, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: dirkdiggler on December 12, 2014, 06:19:01 PM
Swan was a really interesting risk or reward type selection this year.....now he is just someone you basically have to pick.
is he though?
DPP will price him around the 500k mark, which means that he'll have to get back up to ~100 to be worth the cash
now, will he be getting back into the midfield (Beams has gone, but Adams won't continue to be sub, and I'll be damned if Greenwood doesn't play every game) so he'll probably stick forward
given that he puts minimal effort into NAB anyway (so you can't really tell how he'll be scoring) then it's a speculative punt if you pick him
based on this season: opening rounds
Brisbane: 96
Adelaide: 79
StKilda: Did not play
Essendon: 57 and 122 (122 in the anzac game)
Carlton: 102
so that actually rates him LOWER than his price (if he scored exactly the same as this year) - so he'd actually lose value by rd7 (93.7 season average, 91.2 average of that period)
plus he's another year older, and may spend even more time up forward
I personally will be sticking with the likes of Dusty/Lids, who are a lot more consistent and pose the higher ceiling (and are still key midfield components of their sides)
and from a more interesting note, it appeared that he'd lost his ability to score well this year - sure he was getting a few tons (8 tons in a 9 week period) but only 2 of them were over 120
he can still notch them up, but (in my opinion) the big scores that we know and love are behind him
also, you could've said the same about Dangerfield this season, but there were no end of coaches that were maddened by him (especially with a last-6 game average of only 89)
I accept what you say, a good argument for not picking him I guess...but will everyone look at it that way, I doubt it. Most casual players will just put him in the FWD line...and if scores well, everyone will pick him because we have 2 trades a week. Whereas if he was just a MID his ownership would be more unique. I think more of a DPP whinge than anything else. I just don't like seeing premos or even sub premos as DPP, makes the starting picks too obvious for mine....But good research of Swan mate...I might think again now ;)
Quote from: Grazz on December 12, 2014, 06:54:34 PM
I think the safest bet is to use Swan as an upgrade target and go with those we are surer of.
Wise words, my advice too would be to do this
would be my advice also but then he'll go out and score like a 150 in round 1 making me look like an idiot for not having him
They are dragging the price releases out until Jan 19? Flower off.
Quote from: Mr.Craig on December 12, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
They are dragging the price releases out until Jan 19? Flower off.
yep bloody White Goodmans
RDT will be the best bet I reckon for earlier prices and possies
Hope the barbies get hacked again.
Quote from: Mr.Craig on December 12, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
They are dragging the price releases out until Jan 19? Flower off.
And apparently it opens the day after.
Could say we are being impatient but that doesn't leave much time for "preseason" fantasy wise.
That being said, once the first team comes out we will know the magic number (and the #1 draft picks price) so could make quite good assumptions on the rest of the prices.
Quote from: Mr.Craig on December 12, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
They are dragging the price releases out until Jan 19? Flower off.
So , no team picker till then?
Quote from: GM on December 13, 2014, 08:35:05 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on December 12, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
They are dragging the price releases out until Jan 19? Flower off.
So , no team picker till then?
Doesn't it normally open February?
Quote from: nrich102 on December 13, 2014, 08:51:14 AM
Quote from: GM on December 13, 2014, 08:35:05 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on December 12, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
They are dragging the price releases out until Jan 19? Flower off.
So , no team picker till then?
Doesn't it normally open February?
Last year was around Dec 16th.
Quote from: GM on December 13, 2014, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on December 13, 2014, 08:51:14 AM
Quote from: GM on December 13, 2014, 08:35:05 AM
Quote from: Mr.Craig on December 12, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
They are dragging the price releases out until Jan 19? Flower off.
So , no team picker till then?
Doesn't it normally open February?
Last year was around Dec 16th.
Last year the game opened early January
But all prices were out by the 24th of December
Quote from: Sweetness on December 13, 2014, 12:19:36 AM
That being said, once the first team comes out we will know the magic number (and the #1 draft picks price) so could make quite good assumptions on the rest of the prices.
yeah, the MN should be able to give us price indications on most players (DPPs are always a bit over) and then draft indications (they're early anyway)
so we should have a good idea on prices for practically everyone pre-christmas
Some more confirmed by Virtual Sports and Superfooty today
NEW DUAL-POSITION PLAYERS
Dane Swan (Collingwood) - midfield/forward
Brendon Goddard (Essendon) - midfield/forward
Brett Deledio (Richmond) - midfield/forward
Jack Ziebell (North Melbourne) - midfield/forward
Harley Bennell (Gold Coast) - midfield/forward
Dale Thomas (Carlton) - midfield/forward
Adam Cooney (Essendon) - midfield/forward
Paddy Ryder (Port Adelaide) - ruck/forward
Tom Bellchambers (Essendon) - ruck/forward
Jarrod Harbrow (Gold Coast) - midfield/defende
Nathan Krakouer (Port Adelaide) - midfield/forward
Christian Petracca (Melbourne) - midfield/forward
Jayden Laverde (Essendon) - midfield/forward
Hugh Goddard (St Kilda) - defender/forward
Sam Durdin (North Melbourne) - defender/ruck
Kane Lambert (Richmond) - midfield/forward
NO LONGER DPPs
Patrick Dangerfield (Adelaide) - midfielder
Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn) - midfielder
Pearce Hanley (Brisbane) - midfielder
Jimmy Bartel (Geelong) - forward
Luke Parker (Sydney) - midfielder
Jarrad McVeigh (Sydney) - midfielder
David Swallow (Gold Coast) - midfielder
Stefan Martin (Brisbane) - ruck
Chad Wingard (Port Adelaide) - forward
Lewis Taylor (Brisbane) - forward
Josh Caddy (Geelong) - midfielder
Luke McDonald (North Melbourne) - defender
also
NDS is a mid only
KStevens a mid/fwd
JThomas a mid/fwd
CBird a mid/fwd
TAdams mid/fwd
MRobbo mid/fwd
Zaha mid only
Hunt mid only
Pearce mid only
I love how this is going to shake up the backline.
Quote from: Mr.Craig on December 18, 2014, 03:57:48 PM
I love how this is going to shake up the backline.
same mate. Fwd line will be tougher this year because there'll be too many options, and backline tougher because there's flower all options
Duncan mid only
Any news on Ben Brown or Fasolo?
Everitt MID/DEF
DStanley MID/FWD
Blicavs MID/RUCK
JLyons MID/FWD
ZClarke FWD/RUCK
Quote from: T Dog on December 18, 2014, 06:39:48 PM
Any news on Ben Brown or Fasolo?
Ah sorry man didn't see this yesterday
Surely this isnt correct ??
Max Gawn M/F??
QuoteThe Demons' players to present some value include, Colin Garland (DEF, $331,000), Max Gawn (FWD/MID, $320,000) and Ben Newton (MID, $192,000).
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-17/demons-fantasy-prices
yeah it's a mistake
M. Gawn FWD, RUC $320,000