Jukes has gone missing, we haven't heard from him all night long!
Was last seen saying the following: 'Spudlett'!
Call 000youwereverywrongjukes@hotmail.com if you've seen him anywhere :P
lol, what a jet
haha such a spudlett haha
Spud jukes
im fine with people doubting mid pricers and rookies
but ablett? Jukes is now a reading on my dumbassometer
come on guys, now i know how incredibly bad Jukesy's read on Ablett was, but this is bordering "bully territory"
at least he stood by his word all pre season. have to give him credit for that. how much help has he given the noobs on their teams? how many teams has he rated?
i'm all for a bit of jeering between blokes, but geez.
he doesn't need me to stand up for him i know, but let it go
Bulldust man, Jukes is just a troll, deserves no pitty
Quote from: brad on March 31, 2013, 02:34:13 AM
come on guys, now i know how incredibly bad Jukesy's read on Ablett was, but this is bordering "bully territory"
at least he stood by his word all pre season. have to give him credit for that. how much help has he given the noobs on their teams? how many teams has he rated?
i'm all for a bit of jeering between blokes, but geez.
he doesn't need me to stand up for him i know, but let it go
+1. He wasn't the only bloke not to pick Ablett. Actually, the guy who won it last year didn't have him in his 2013 team in the DT Talk Cheat Sheet.
Yeah but Jukes was trolling!
I didn't start with GAJ and I'd like to think I'm respected.
Who knows, maybe he was serious about GAJ? Knowing Jukes, trololol. However GAJ did average under 114 only 2 seasons ago...
And let's face it, GAJ did score 135 and yes that's a good score... But it's a 135 which isn't super for GAJ in one of their few wins for the season. Could still very much average under 114.
Quote from: Kodboys on March 31, 2013, 12:10:37 AM
Jukes has gone missing, we haven't heard from him all night long!
Was last seen saying the following: 'Spudlett'!
Call 000youwereverywrongjukes@hotmail.com if you've seen him anywhere :P
Good luck trying to call an email address ::)
Quote from: Noz on March 31, 2013, 03:43:16 AM
Quote from: Kodboys on March 31, 2013, 12:10:37 AM
Jukes has gone missing, we haven't heard from him all night long!
Was last seen saying the following: 'Spudlett'!
Call 000youwereverywrongjukes@hotmail.com if you've seen him anywhere :P
Good luck trying to call an email address ::)
Lol
He commentedsomewhere else...
Quote from: brad on March 31, 2013, 02:34:13 AM
come on guys, now i know how incredibly bad Jukesy's read on Ablett was, but this is bordering "bully territory"
Boardering on bully? His tactics of calling everyone "sheep" was closer to bullying than this thread. If he's going to mouth off then he has to expect it in return. You can't let him run his mouth all pre-season then say "Poor, Jukes" when everyone starts saying stuff back.
While Jukesy makes some pretty silly calls, this being one of them, he never let up and he didn't stand down from it. Respect should be given for that. I wouldn't call this bullying, but it's uncalled for.
Some of the things he's said to me on the other hand could be classed as bullying though... ::)
But yeah, brad said it well.
>4 Jukes! 8)
At least Jukes has the ability to go missing
This kodboys tosser hasn't shown up yet.
it wasn't just ablett... it was 'if you're starting with swan or ablett you're a sheep and a noob'
i mentioned it already... he was at the glory game last night.......
Quote from: NigeyS on March 31, 2013, 11:42:25 AM
While Jukesy makes some pretty silly calls, this being one of them, he never let up and he didn't stand down from it. Respect should be given for that. I wouldn't call this bullying, but it's uncalled for.
Some of the things he's said to me on the other hand could be classed as bullying though... ::)
But yeah, brad said it well.
>4 Jukes! 8)
There's a line between standing up for your opinion and stubbornness... Shouldn't give respect to someone that can't see past his own opinion. GAJ is god, if you let Jukes talk you out of selecting him, you are more of an idiot than him :P
You all so butthurt and angry at Jukes for predicting GAJ to average something like he did in 2011
A player averaging the same score as he did 2011
OMGZ THAT IS LIEKE SO IMPOSSIBLEZ!!!! NO WAY HE COULD GO BACK TO A LOWER AVERAGE?!?!?!?!!?
maybe he just had a good year last year. Jukes not too craycray.
GAJ of 2012 would've scored 170 in that game but only scored 135.
Quote from: Nails on March 31, 2013, 12:27:16 PM
You all so butthurt and angry at Jukes for predicting GAJ to average something like he did in 2011
A player averaging the same score as he did 2011
OMGZ THAT IS LIEKE SO IMPOSSIBLEZ!!!! NO WAY HE COULD GO BACK TO A LOWER AVERAGE?!?!?!?!!?
maybe he just had a good year last year. Jukes not too craycray.
GAJ of 2012 would've scored 170 in that game but only scored 135.
Yeah Nails but calling people spuds for picking the best footballer in the AFL is a bit too far and borderline stupid imo
Yeah i think the way Jukes brought it up virtually every time Abletts name was mentioned, he does deserve what he's getting atm, as long as it's done without hatred. But it was getting annoying, and KARMA 1 - jUKES 0 as it's stands. Maybe next week it will be 1 all, but i hope not :)
Quote from: Jayman on March 31, 2013, 12:21:24 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on March 31, 2013, 11:42:25 AM
While Jukesy makes some pretty silly calls, this being one of them, he never let up and he didn't stand down from it. Respect should be given for that. I wouldn't call this bullying, but it's uncalled for.
Some of the things he's said to me on the other hand could be classed as bullying though... ::)
But yeah, brad said it well.
>4 Jukes! 8)
There's a line between standing up for your opinion and stubbornness... Shouldn't give respect to someone that can't see past his own opinion. GAJ is god, if you let Jukes talk you out of selecting him, you are more of an idiot than him :P
I totally agree, but my point is that this won't change him or his stance, if anything, he'll get spurred on by this. You guys are feeding him. But yeah, there was a Glory game last night which is why our good pal Jukesy was absent.
Long Season boys! Great by GAJ last night. Still prob drop in value after first bubble.
Everybody on this forum has their own opinion. Jukes makes some good points. Making a thread to slam him is not cool.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 31, 2013, 12:02:22 PM
it wasn't just ablett... it was 'if you're starting with swan or ablett you're a sheep and a noob'
Well he says picking Gary makes you sheep. But I think picking Goddard is probably the most sheepish act. Every year, everyone picks him. Sheep. Including myself.
Quote from: Nails on March 31, 2013, 11:45:53 AM
At least Jukes has the ability to go missing
Unlike ablett.
fixed.
Quote from: Nails on March 31, 2013, 12:27:16 PM
You all so butthurt and angry at Jukes for predicting GAJ to average something like he did in 2011
A player averaging the same score as he did 2011
OMGZ THAT IS LIEKE SO IMPOSSIBLEZ!!!! NO WAY HE COULD GO BACK TO A LOWER AVERAGE?!?!?!?!!?
maybe he just had a good year last year. Jukes not too craycray.
GAJ of 2012 would've scored 170 in that game but only scored 135.
ablett in 2011 had surgery in the off season, no preseason, and started very slowly- no serious DTer started him, most people upgrade around round 10, after which he averaged like 1220.
Hahahaha funny to see people backing Jukes. Puh-lease.
think it's how he voices his opinions that gets on peoples nerves like calling Ablett a spud
instead of just saying how they could spend the cash better
Jukes annoys so many people saying Ablett is a spud. ::)
Dont back up Jukes..
He read an article from mckenna about ablett playing 4% less time on the ground and thought he was some kind of genius and went parading around on here like he was the smartest bloke alive
If you know the bloke, you can understand that he deserves what he gets..
And its not bullying its blokes taking the piss..
I bet if i said something stupid people would jump down my throat and i would accept because i was wrong. People make wild guesses and there is only 2 results..
A) they are a hero
B) they are stupid
So he knew what he was getting himself into
cmon Jukes i have been reading this waiting for you to reply....
take your medicine. have a feeling you can take it, but will hate it!
Jukes said he won't average above 114
It's round 1, not the end of season. To be honest this thread has absolutely no validity. It's like making a thread about Beau Muston knowing he'll be a superstar after 2 games.
Why would Jukes have to respond? No one has proven him wrong yet.
Quote from: Nails on April 01, 2013, 02:23:24 AM
Jukes said he won't average above 114
It's round 1, not the end of season. To be honest this thread has absolutely no validity. It's like making a thread about Beau Muston knowing he'll be a superstar after 2 games.
Why would Jukes have to respond? No one has proven him wrong yet.
well he called Ablett a spud think i can prove him wrong on that
in his defense, stants looks like a good pick up this year and its only round 1.
cloke did well too.
Quote from: Holzman on April 02, 2013, 04:37:58 PM
in his defense, stants looks like a good pick up this year and its only round 1.
cloke did well too.
This is where we flip it and say 'its only round 1' :P
Stants has half a season to mess up and Cloke...well he is cloke.
LOL - I dont want it both ways... Happy to say Stants and Cloke will probably be good long term picks, even if they dont quite get as high as Jukes predicted avgs.
But there is no way Ablett could ever be referred to as a Spud. His performance on the weekend just proved how good he is.
Quote from: SydneyRox on April 02, 2013, 04:54:42 PM
LOL - I dont want it both ways... Happy to say Stants and Cloke will probably be good long term picks, even if they dont quite get as high as Jukes predicted avgs.
But there is no way Ablett could ever be referred to as a Spud. His performance on the weekend just proved how good he is.
l dont think Jukes ended up putting Cloke in his team
I'm gonna back up Jukes here. When he refers to "Spudlett" i'm sure he doesn't mean he's a "spud" player. Pretty sure he's referring to the fact that Ablett won't be worth the price tag he is given in Fantasy comps this year. He still said/says 114 average (DT), which maeks him far from a spud player, but in terms of fantasy, I wouldn't want to pay 124avg for a player only to get 114avg return. And since anyone who isn't good at fantasy is known as a spud, he threw that into GAJ's name, which is fair enough imo.
Clearly an undercover Jukes ^
Just because that guy says he will average 114 certainly doesn't mean he will.
i still want to hear Jukes man up for himself. Maybe he is waiting for Ablett to spud agsinst the Swans??
152, 127, (23), 167, 141, 126, 150 are his DT scores vs Swans since 08
This could be the opposite of last year IMO.
Last year after round 1, Jukes threw out a thread lauding Stanton's round 1 performance and basically claiming the title of king of the world for calling it and so on, whereas as we know by the end of the season a lot had changed.
This year maybe the thread bagging Jukes' call will be the premature one, Ablett may yet decline in average it has only been one round.
Wanna hear something weird? Jukes predicted Ablett will average 114 this season. Ablet scored 135 last week, if he decreases that score by 2 points every week, then wanna know what his average will be? Yep, 114, exactly. :o
Too much time on your hands mate ^ :P
Quote from: elephants on April 04, 2013, 06:36:06 PM
Too much time on your hands mate ^ :P
Haha exactly. I wouldn't be jumping the gun after 1 round, if he does poorly for the rest of the season you guys could be the ones looking like idiots. Having said that I don't think it will be the case, and I'm very glad I've got ablett who will belt out a handy 150 this week for me as captain :P
Quote from: elephants on April 04, 2013, 06:36:06 PM
Too much time on your hands mate ^ :P
I was purely mucking around with the numbers. I think that's quite amazing though.
lol
What were you guys saying?
Quote from: Jukes on April 06, 2013, 05:26:09 PM
lol
What were you guys saying?
*crickets chirp*
I kid...
Jukes' call was about averaging less than 116 this season.
It's Round 2 and we're already calling people right, wrong, genius and spud.
We won't know his average until the end of the season at which point we'll find out who in fact was correct.
Bump this thread on September 2nd.
Jukes: 1
Everyone else: 1
SCG worst ground for DT scores + wet + Jack tagging him = GAJ <100 = was always going to happen
Now we laugh at everyone who picked him on this week
Quote from: Jukes on April 06, 2013, 05:26:09 PM
lol
What were you guys saying?
Jukes i rated u higher than that. If you thought Ablett was a spud like you said then turning up before his game was the thing to do.
Hovering round waiting for a poor score this week is soft.
give jukes a break, not like "everybody" didn't wait until after his big round 1 game to sink the boot into jukes ::)
i disagree with jukes but see merit in his reasoning, still i started ablett in every comp i am in and doubt i will regret it.
that said to call him a spud was a little silly and i doubt jukes actually ever thought he was/is a spud
just thought a role change in a changing side might = a decreased fantasy output from him..... time will tell. me i doubt it will be decreased enough to warrant not selecting him but that is just my opinion.
he still averaging like 140 this season
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 07, 2013, 02:59:13 AM
he still averaging like 140 this season
109.5 actually, compared to Stants' 128.5...
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 07, 2013, 02:39:05 AM
give jukes a break, not like "everybody" didn't wait until after his big round 1 game to sink the boot into jukes ::)
i disagree with jukes but see merit in his reasoning, still i started ablett in every comp i am in and doubt i will regret it.
that said to call him a spud was a little silly and i doubt jukes actually ever thought he was/is a spud
just thought a role change in a changing side might = a decreased fantasy output from him..... time will tell. me i doubt it will be decreased enough to warrant not selecting him but that is just my opinion.
Irrespective CW.
If you want to make big calls then you need to back em up.
Week 2 is maybe still too early to call, but hows this??
GAJ will score 120+ next week and GC will win or lose by less than 2 goals.
Yeah I agree with SydneyRox.
Gary had an ordinary game and the spineless coward comes here and comments.
Gary will probably go 130+ again and we won't here from the kid until his next bad game.
Quote from: Jukes on April 07, 2013, 02:01:31 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 07, 2013, 02:59:13 AM
he still averaging like 140 this season
109.5 actually, compared to Stants' 128.5...
you taliking about SC ?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 07, 2013, 02:19:12 AM
Quote from: Jukes on April 07, 2013, 02:01:31 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 07, 2013, 02:59:13 AM
he still averaging like 140 this season
109.5 actually, compared to Stants' 128.5...
you taliking about SC ?
DT; Stants 142+115 vs Ablett 135+84
And I never exactly called Ablett a spud. He's won a Brownlow and played in 2 flags. I called his selection for dt and his dt premise for 2013 spudlike- hence the Spudlett tag.
Well i was talking SC
and when you say drop Spudlett you are calling him a spud whether you mean to or not
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 07, 2013, 03:12:06 AM
Well i was talking SC
and when you say drop Spudlett you are calling him a spud whether you mean to or not
He doesn't mean it in the same way that you think he does though, and i think alot of others are getting mixed up also. As i mentioned previously:
Quote from: SilkySkills on April 02, 2013, 11:13:42 PM
I'm gonna back up Jukes here. When he refers to "Spudlett" i'm sure he doesn't mean he's a "spud" player. Pretty sure he's referring to the fact that Ablett won't be worth the price tag he is given in Fantasy comps this year. He still said/says 114 average (DT), which makes him far from a spud player, but in terms of fantasy, I wouldn't want to pay 124avg for a player only to get 114avg return. And since anyone who isn't good at fantasy is known as a spud, he threw that into GAJ's name, which is fair enough imo.
:)
And ftr, yes, I picked up Stants and not GAJ. :)
the fact that GAJ played the swans in R2 was one of the main reasons why i didnt get him in from the start. The SCG has the lowest average for DT scores and with the added rain GAJ was always going to struggle
Yes GAJ had a great first game but the saints were no good and they helped GAJ get that high.
I think its pretty low to say that Jukes has gone missing after GAJ had a great game. He puts in a lot moire than most and commented on a lot more teams than the creator of this thread.
Wake up sunshine, not everyone got GAJ and they still went ok.
Quote from: SilkySkills on April 07, 2013, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 07, 2013, 03:12:06 AM
Well i was talking SC
and when you say drop Spudlett you are calling him a spud whether you mean to or not
He doesn't mean it in the same way that you think he does though, and i think alot of others are getting mixed up also. As i mentioned previously:
Quote from: SilkySkills on April 02, 2013, 11:13:42 PM
I'm gonna back up Jukes here. When he refers to "Spudlett" i'm sure he doesn't mean he's a "spud" player. Pretty sure he's referring to the fact that Ablett won't be worth the price tag he is given in Fantasy comps this year. He still said/says 114 average (DT), which makes him far from a spud player, but in terms of fantasy, I wouldn't want to pay 124avg for a player only to get 114avg return. And since anyone who isn't good at fantasy is known as a spud, he threw that into GAJ's name, which is fair enough imo.
:)
And ftr, yes, I picked up Stants and not GAJ. :)
Its not everyone understanding him incorrectly, he is using the term wrong, hence the confusion. No one is a spud pick for averaging 114, maybe his points for $$$ isn't great, but you get a good player right off the bat and you dont need to find $$$ later to bring him in which will be difficult because a player averaging 114 will still be expensive (maybe not as high as his starting price but you pay an extra 50k for him to be there the whole year and not have to triple trade to afford to bring him in)
I don't know about you, I have had some high DT finishes and usually it takes a double trade to bring in a forward, back or ruck and can sometimes take a triple trade to bring in a mid. Usually the swan's or ablett's. If I lose 50k early by starting with ablett, I will still be gaining a trade. Now before you say trades arent worth anything this year because we have 2 per round, if you need 3 trades to bring in ablett, that will take you more than 1 week of planning. Anything could happen in the next and screw up your plans so once again, the money you pay extra is for security. You'll also leak points for a week while you double downgrade.
Dreamteam is not won by points per dollar players, its won by finding the balance between value picks (p.p.d) and high point scorers from the outset. The fact you need to start rookies at the beginning can completely throw off any tactic because if you field shower rookies, you'll score pretty shower. Field the best ones, you'll generally score well with dodgy premiums.
And also for the record, I have stants (as captain this week) and GaJ.
Bump
Ablett 114.6 average...who would have thought that?
#CallOfTheCentury
What did Stanton average?
Never made a big call about Stants...
You told everyone to get him averages 11 less then Ablett according to FF stats
Two injury affected and two Curnow affected games?
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 10:34:24 PM
Two injury affected and two Curnow affected games?
Lol you can't just take out the games when he was tagged, the people who owned him still had to cop them. Otherwise you could take out all gaj's low scores due to tagging ::)
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 10:34:24 PM
Two injury affected and two Curnow affected games?
Lol Ablett gets tagged every other week but still averaged 11 more
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 10:22:15 PM
Bump
Ablett 114.6 average...who would have thought that?
#CallOfTheCentury
Hahahaha, that is great ;D
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 10:22:15 PM
Bump
Ablett 114.6 average...who would have thought that?
#CallOfTheCentury
bump with the real thread topic
I still stand by what I said at the top of this page!
Wasn't Swan going to average 140?
You also said Kieran Harper would average 85 and play more than 2 games lol
MISSING FORUM MEMBERS!!!
Kodboys, betch ya, DT Gun and tbagrocks have gone missing, we haven't heard from them all 114.6 average long!
Was last seen saying the following: "mmmghmhhhm", making out with their posters of Gary Ablett, their computer's destroyed.
Call 000jukeswasrightandyouwereallwrong@hotmail.com if you've seen them anywhere
Harper didn't play out as he didn't play the role I expected as he did in the pre-season.
Never said Swan 140...I actually said more like 125-128...maybe you're just deluded?
Btw don't see you finishing very well...
Quote from: Jukes on September 03, 2013, 09:48:48 AM
Harper didn't play out as he didn't play the role I expected as he did in the pre-season.
Never said Swan 140...I actually said more like 125-128...maybe you're just deluded?
Btw don't see you finishing very well...
Finishing very well? I came 69th...
I'm confused as to why people care about this
Whatlez (Luke) Ranking: 7523
Quote from: Jukes on September 03, 2013, 02:18:19 PM
Whatlez (Luke) Ranking: 7523
we both switched to SC after the shocking 2 trade per week joke.
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2013, 02:22:26 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 03, 2013, 02:18:19 PM
Whatlez (Luke) Ranking: 7523
we both switched to SC after the shocking 2 trade per week joke.
Yeah wasn't sure if Jukes was trolling.
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 10:22:15 PM
Bump
Ablett 114.6 average...who would have thought that?
#CallOfTheCentury
once again, your point was that anyone starting ablett was a sheep.
he started the season on fire and carved up.
the fact that he carried injury towards the end of the season and dropped his average subsequently barely even matters since everyone had him by then.
Quote from: Jukes on September 03, 2013, 09:45:39 AM
MISSING FORUM MEMBERS!!!
Kodboys, betch ya, DT Gun and tbagrocks have gone missing, we haven't heard from them all 114.6 average long!
Was last seen saying the following: "mmmghmhhhm", making out with their posters of Gary Ablett, their computer's destroyed.
Call 000jukeswasrightandyouwereallwrong@hotmail.com if you've seen them anywhere
As the last post said
Anyway, leave me out of it troll! Everyone who started him had a huge advantage, go troll somewhere else!
This whole saga was about DT, keep SC out of it
Quote from: Ziplock on September 03, 2013, 07:30:30 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 10:22:15 PM
Bump
Ablett 114.6 average...who would have thought that?
#CallOfTheCentury
once again, your point was that anyone starting ablett was a sheep.
he started the season on fire and carved up.
the fact that he carried injury towards the end of the season and dropped his average subsequently barely even matters since everyone had him by then.
"started season on fire" well, after six rounds he was averaging 112-ish and had dropped 70k-ish, by which time I swooped.
"carried an injury" ?
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 03, 2013, 07:35:23 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 03, 2013, 09:45:39 AM
MISSING FORUM MEMBERS!!!
Kodboys, betch ya, DT Gun and tbagrocks have gone missing, we haven't heard from them all 114.6 average long!
Was last seen saying the following: "mmmghmhhhm", making out with their posters of Gary Ablett, their computer's destroyed.
Call 000jukeswasrightandyouwereallwrong@hotmail.com if you've seen them anywhere
As the last post said
Anyway, leave me out of it troll! Everyone who started him had a huge advantage, go troll somewhere else!
haha, everything you say is just ::)
Quote from: Jukes on September 03, 2013, 07:46:17 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 03, 2013, 07:35:23 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 03, 2013, 09:45:39 AM
MISSING FORUM MEMBERS!!!
Kodboys, betch ya, DT Gun and tbagrocks have gone missing, we haven't heard from them all 114.6 average long!
Was last seen saying the following: "mmmghmhhhm", making out with their posters of Gary Ablett, their computer's destroyed.
Call 000jukeswasrightandyouwereallwrong@hotmail.com if you've seen them anywhere
As the last post said
Anyway, leave me out of it troll! Everyone who started him had a huge advantage, go troll somewhere else!
haha, everything you say is just ::)
You're really not in the position to say this dude aha
Ablett is carrying a knee injury. If it wasn't for this then you'd be keeping very very quiet about this bullshower call you made 6 months ago.
Quote from: Jukes on September 03, 2013, 07:41:21 PM
This whole saga was about DT, keep SC out of it
Quote from: Ziplock on September 03, 2013, 07:30:30 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 10:22:15 PM
Bump
Ablett 114.6 average...who would have thought that?
#CallOfTheCentury
once again, your point was that anyone starting ablett was a sheep.
he started the season on fire and carved up.
the fact that he carried injury towards the end of the season and dropped his average subsequently barely even matters since everyone had him by then.
"started season on fire" well, after six rounds he was averaging 112-ish and had dropped 70k-ish, by which time I swooped.
"carried an injury" ?
ablett was the 4th highest averaging player by round 6, only selwood, swan, cornes had scored more points... and selwood/ cornes would have been very speculative picks.
you saved yourself like 60k... although, I have no idea how you managed to rustle up enough money by round 6 to buy a 582k player by upgrading. Unless you side swapped?
basically, I dont really see how not starting ablett would have given you a massive advantage. I cbf crunching the numbers, because I'm flowering tired and really don't give that much of a shower about it. The advantage you would have had would have been minimal though, if it existed at all.
Yeah not starting with Ablett was your choice and it's your team so go for it!
But Ablett has the potential to destory and if he does you are in trouble if he doesn't even his quieter games are as good as many premos.
Don't think it would make a huge difference not starting with him. Risk vs Reward.
Risky not starting with him mate.