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Title: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on December 11, 2012, 10:17:24 AM
Completed Trades

Dublin trade Dale Thomas and Troy Chaplin to Cape Town for Joel Selwood and Lachie Hunter

Seoul trade Clancee Pearce and Jed Bews to Cairo for Hayden Ballantyne and Jarryn Geary

Player movements (max 4 per club):
Cairo: 2
Cape Town: 2
Dublin: 2
Seoul: 2



Hi all - the year just keeps ticking on by! Looking forward to the draft, and starting this all again :)

We've had our many, many months of trading - so hopefully your sides are pretty much set (with some holes to be filled in the drafts).

But the curve ball are position changes of players - losing DPP, changing entirely, not changing like expected, etc.

So the next trade period is AFTER all the positions for players have been announced (I know some have already), and after all the drafts.

Trading will be limited to FOUR player movements per team, and has to be either one for one, two for two, three for three or four for four.

But a twist - Trades will only be allowed if it is because of a positional change (or an expected position change that didn't happen, which has got to be reasonable). So this means you can trade...
- A player whose position changed
- A player whose position DIDN'T changed as expected (have to provide a very good reason why you thought that)
- Trading to fill spots in your team vacated by position changes.

The team you are trading with doesn't have to trade for the above reasons.




I'll decide if a trade is fair or not - but I will be very lenient, don't worry  :P


Hope that makes sense....
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Holz on December 11, 2012, 10:26:09 AM
ossie just a question on this, Thomas gained his F/M status and this was leaked only a day or two before the trade period ended. Because of the limited time i was unable to trade for a mid only player so that i had enough mids to actually play him up front. Would I be able to trade in a mid in the 2nd period so i can play thomas up front (currently need to play him in the mids).

Or is this rule only for positional changes not yet released?
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Ringo on December 11, 2012, 10:33:09 AM
Thank you for the clarification and rules.

Will sit patiently and wait for announcement on 2nd trade period.

Like the idea of you ruling on the change of position.

Question though does this rule stop further trades as an example Can I trade Goddard for Franklin in this period eg a back for a forward  or do they have to meet the 3 criteria listed,
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on December 11, 2012, 10:49:38 AM

If Goddard and Franklin's positions are the same as last quarter, the only way they could be traded is if say one of the teams lost a player in defence/forward that left a hole that needs to be filled....

@Holz, and yeah, Daisy would likely be up for trade.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: MajorLazer on December 11, 2012, 01:25:39 PM
What about if a position change has given us a surplus of players in a position?

Eg. Stanley becoming a back has given me too many backs.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on December 11, 2012, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on December 11, 2012, 01:25:39 PM
What about if a position change has given us a surplus of players in a position?

Eg. Stanley becoming a back has given me too many backs.

Yep, but that would fall under the 'my player's position changed' category
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: MajorLazer on December 11, 2012, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 11, 2012, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on December 11, 2012, 01:25:39 PM
What about if a position change has given us a surplus of players in a position?

Eg. Stanley becoming a back has given me too many backs.

Yep, but that would fall under the 'my player's position changed' category

Cheers. Just wanted to make sure. :)
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Torpedo10 on December 11, 2012, 05:04:44 PM
Will be hard for the Tigers to trade......
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 11, 2012, 06:45:56 PM
Any chance Seoul can have some leniency as we had trades organised for last period but couldnt get the final ok because of unfortunate circumstances?
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on December 11, 2012, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 11, 2012, 06:45:56 PM
Any chance Seoul can have some leniency as we had trades organised for last period but couldnt get the final ok because of unfortunate circumstances?

Is a valid argument, would depend on the trade....
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on January 24, 2013, 10:29:35 AM
It's on guys! Send me your trades (both coaches have to send the trade) and will decide....

If anyone disagrees with me approving or rejecting, you need 8 other coaches to over turn it

Most people seemed ok with that

Trading open until start of preseason
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: FisherSaints on January 24, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
So if you move say 3 players for 3 players, it's 3 list movements??
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on January 24, 2013, 11:14:49 AM
Quote from: FisherSaints on January 24, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
So if you move say 3 players for 3 players, it's 3 list movements??

Yup
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Ringo on January 24, 2013, 11:18:40 AM
Does anyone know where there is a list of players that have lost DPP from last year.  Remember reading it somewhere but have not been able to locate.

This may also help new coaches with the rules for this trade period.

To clarify using team as an example Brent Reilly is now solely a defender last year was DPP with mid, Because this has weakened my midfield can I now seek a midfielder as a trade for a surplus defender.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: DazBurg on January 24, 2013, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 24, 2013, 11:18:40 AM
Does anyone know where there is a list of players that have lost DPP from last year.  Remember reading it somewhere but have not been able to locate.

This may also help new coaches with the rules for this trade period.

To clarify using team as an example Brent Reilly is now solely a defender last year was DPP with mid, Because this has weakened my midfield can I now seek a midfielder as a trade for a surplus defender.
here ya go ringo
page 62 on world 15 discussion
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,44851.msg949603.html#msg949603
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: JBs-Hawks on January 24, 2013, 08:00:28 PM
Any mid but lids,  danger and congs avaiable for a forward.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Ringo on January 24, 2013, 08:06:06 PM
Thank You Daz - Appreciated so have only got Reilly and Winderlich who lost mid DPP status. So obviously looking for a mid. PM me if you have a prem mid to offer.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: meow meow on January 24, 2013, 08:13:47 PM
Moscow has a plethora of defenders and forwards on offer. Looking for a mid or a ruckman. Willing to part with a gun.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Boomz on January 25, 2013, 05:32:13 AM
Could do with another back up ruckman but not willing to trade much.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Master Q on January 27, 2013, 02:04:30 PM
c4 has gone missing again so if you are interested in trading with the Islanders, PM me.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: CrowsFan on January 27, 2013, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on January 24, 2013, 10:29:35 AM
Trading open until start of preseason
Well it's the preseason now, so when does it actually close? The start of the NAB Cup?
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on January 27, 2013, 03:54:44 PM

Yup add the word 'competition' to the end :)

So the start of the preseason competition
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: CrowsFan on January 27, 2013, 08:08:43 PM
Ah ok then. Just checked and round 1 is scheduled for Feb 15 so I guess that's the ending date then.

So dead in here at the moment! I just want the season to start!!

Plus don't think I can do any trades since none of my changes were unexpected at all. Actually I guess I didn't expect Zaha to lose forward status, so does that mean I can try and trade in a forward? If yes do I have to trade a mid to get them, or any position?
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Nails on January 28, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
How long is this period for?

Sucks I'm on holidays when all the trade periods are on, really hurts the potential of all my teams :(
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: CrowsFan on January 28, 2013, 04:24:34 PM
Look at my post directly above yours nails ::)

Ends February 15 since that is the start of the NAB Cup.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Nails on January 28, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Some people don't have time to read every post in every thread. I checked the OP which is generally the one with all the info.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on January 29, 2013, 04:50:58 PM

1 trade done....

I'm surprised by how quiet it is :/
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Holz on January 29, 2013, 05:22:48 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on January 29, 2013, 04:50:58 PM

1 trade done....

I'm surprised by how quiet it is :/

the first trade period was soo crazy I assume most people are fairly happy with their squad and there wasnt too many suprise DPP moves this year.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Maca24 on January 29, 2013, 05:29:52 PM
I think it's the positional rule thing that's scared people off.
I can't get a trade done with anyone.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: CrowsFan on January 29, 2013, 09:20:35 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on January 29, 2013, 04:50:58 PM

1 trade done....

I'm surprised by how quiet it is :/
Can I get a confirmation on my question about Zaha?
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on January 29, 2013, 09:23:32 PM

Sorry CF, any position is possible. Trading a forward though could raise questions though....
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: CrowsFan on January 29, 2013, 09:56:20 PM
Haha yes trading a forward would not be beneficial at all. May put out some feelers to see if anyone is interested...
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: FisherSaints on January 29, 2013, 09:59:30 PM
Need a star mid. But don't have any DPP changes. etc
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Nails on January 30, 2013, 02:45:33 AM
Being on holidays and not on FF much, haven't had much time to look over my team for DPP changes.

Only one off the top of my head I can think of is Jared Brennan, but really that's a positive for me.

He'll likely go to the backline for me as a starter now, though can I now trade in a midfielder as he'll be missing in the mids? (though DPP)
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Nails on January 30, 2013, 02:48:59 AM
Wait...

D only....

I need another mid for depth! My mid depth lacks now, stupid DPP changes. PM me your mids please and I'll trade someone young or someone else lol

Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: CrowsFan on January 30, 2013, 03:08:19 AM
How about updating your squad so that we know who you have?
Your thread has your best XV, but the entire squad hasn't been updated since September!
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Nails on January 30, 2013, 03:26:25 AM
I don't have the list here... It's back home...

I was looking for my team list and I couldn't see the "final list lodgement" thread lol
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Ringo on January 30, 2013, 09:44:57 AM
Oss

Just a clarification to see if I am reading this correctly if I have M/D DPP who has lost the DPP and D only am I able to trade any player for a mid or can only trade defender.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on January 30, 2013, 10:04:59 AM
Quote from: Ringo on January 30, 2013, 09:44:57 AM
Oss

Just a clarification to see if I am reading this correctly if I have M/D DPP who has lost the DPP and D only am I able to trade any player for a mid or can only trade defender.

Similar to CF's issue, any player within reason....
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Holz on January 30, 2013, 07:11:05 PM
I havent seen the trade posted before so I will do it now.

Cobras trade: Joel Selwood + Lachie Hunter

Destroyers trade: Troy Chaplin + Dale Thomas


reason: I have plenty of talent up front and down back in my opinion so can afford to lose 2 starters. Was short on Mids and Selwood slots into my captain spot and hunter is there for the future as i rated him and would have taken him at 21. But I knew i was losing Chaplin so picked plowman instead.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Maca24 on January 31, 2013, 01:01:08 AM
Well played Cobras!
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: meow meow on January 31, 2013, 01:03:04 AM
I don't need Dustin Martin anymore.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: MajorLazer on February 03, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
If anyone is interested in any backman that can be played at D3 or D4, PM Nige or myself. We are looking for either mids or forwards that are under the age of 28.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Nige on February 03, 2013, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on February 03, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
If anyone is interested in any backman that can be played at D3 or D4, PM Nige or myself. We are looking for either mids or forwards that are under the age of 28.

We are? :o

Anyway, yeah do that.  8)
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Ringo on February 03, 2013, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 31, 2013, 01:03:04 AM
I don't need Dustin Martin anymore.
What position do you need for him meow. - Have backs if you want them only way I can assist.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: meow meow on February 03, 2013, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: Ringo on February 03, 2013, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 31, 2013, 01:03:04 AM
I don't need Dustin Martin anymore.
What position do you need for him meow. - Have backs if you want them only way I can assist.

My backs are fine.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Nails on February 05, 2013, 01:15:58 PM
Anyone got a 80-85 average midfielder? I need someone for depth after losing Brennan there.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: CrowsFan on February 06, 2013, 06:00:16 PM
Just a heads up to anyone who is considering making an offer for one of my players, I leave to go to Bali next Tuesday (12th) and so won't be checking this while away. That means if you want to get a trade done with me it needs to be before then :)
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on February 15, 2013, 06:25:18 PM

Front page updated... 1 more confirmed trade...

Tick tock tick tock.....
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Nails on February 15, 2013, 07:43:04 PM
Looks like I'm going into the season short on mids

Season over.
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: ossie85 on February 15, 2013, 10:43:05 PM

/trade period
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: MajorLazer on February 16, 2013, 01:32:59 AM
It seems that everyone was quite happy with their teams, I guess.  :-\
Title: Re: 2nd Trade Period
Post by: Nails on February 16, 2013, 02:04:19 AM
I wasn't, just couldn't find a depth mid really. Didn't have much to give and couldn't find many I was too interested in.

The different trading rules made it a tad harder.