Poll
Question:
Do you think Demetriou should be running the show
Option 1: yes
votes: 7
Option 2: no
votes: 10
I reckon hes an over paid nong
Goes on 7 week holidays when he is most needed to do his job...what an insult to the general, middle class football public
Thinks that Melbourne, Carlton or Hawthorn isnt guilty of tanking in the last 10 years.
As a person that donates to his wage by going to games occasionally...so he can be a fool, go on great 7 week holdays (thats nearly 1/3 of the season) ...then generally have another 6 months of relative downtime during summer.... I think its wrong
Besides Chris Judd who at least earns his money and doesnt have half the perks Demetrio has but is still on similar sort of money.......who thinks Demetriou deserves to keep his job?
He has ruined the game since being the AFL dictator
Lets all get nayked and famous and march on AFL house
I want Demetriou to take a pay cut so a pie isnt $6 at the game
I want Demetriou to take a pay cut so some of us can afford to go to the Grand Final
I want Demetriou to take a pay cut so pay TV is more affordable...especially for those not in victoria that have no choice but to watch a rubbish who cares game on free to air TV
(Yes Im angry about my potential SC failures this weekend so dont ask)
Don't like his arrogance, but I'd argue that he has been central in positioning the AFL as the wealthiest, most stable code in the country.
Quote from: Spinking on August 18, 2012, 08:27:36 PM
Don't like his arrogance, but I'd argue that he has been central in positioning the AFL as the wealthiest, most stable code in the country.
How?
By TV deals?
Stable?.....Go ask The Suns, Port, Melb, Nth Melb and the dogs how their stability is?
The Suns pick their teams and crunch numbers from a bloody ATCO hut behind Metricon?
Quote from: bowyanger on August 18, 2012, 08:46:58 PM
Quote from: Spinking on August 18, 2012, 08:27:36 PM
Don't like his arrogance, but I'd argue that he has been central in positioning the AFL as the wealthiest, most stable code in the country.
How?
By TV deals?
Stable?.....Go ask The Suns, Port, Melb, Nth Melb and the dogs how their stability is?
The Suns pick their teams and crunch numbers from a bloody ATCO hut behind Metricon?
No doubt it isn't perfect, but I think a lot of the positive work gets overshadowed. An example of this is the Auskick program. No other code has a junior footy program that is as comprehensive and professionally run. This translates to more kids getting into footy, more families getting along to games and more fans at all levels.
Compared to the other codes in Aus, I don't think we are doing too bad.
I would totally agree with you if Auskick was free.
But its not
Its a vicious circle......get kids to pay to participate in Auskick, then more kids will want to pay to eat a handful of chips that cost $5 at a footy game that cost $50 for a parent to bring the kid to
Auskick is great for kids...but if they werent doing Auskick, they would be doing something else = less $$$ for Demetriou to spend during footy season overseas = less money for the average footy fan
Basic Economics IMO...the AFL is successfully creating a monopoly in kids <9 playing sport with Auskik and printing money whilst doing so...and how does the general public / footy fan benefit from this?
No way, but dont get me started otherwise m0nty will be banning me. To think he'll be around for another 2 to 3 years possibly makes my skin crawl. Money hungry little fat small man syndrome White Goodman who incidently dont have a clue and he played the game.
God help us. ::). Yeh he's been behind the wheel when the AFL broke all records in TV rights but if Olive Oyle was behind the wheell the AFL would of generated as much capital, the sport is driving itself it only takes a halfwit to steer it, shame he doesnt qualify for that rank, 2 million a year with bonuses for his garbage not good enough not even close. Wouldnt wee on him if he was on fire. ::)
he isn't big enough for where the game has got to, bring in a real professional. He may have done well, he may have not, but he sure isn't the future is all i will say.
suggestions on who we would want to have the job?
to bad Eddie would be biased or i think he would do ok
i think it should be someone not so long out of retirement that understands the game like a Cameron Ling type but that's never going to happen but i think at least they would change it to what the players and supporters want to see which is generally the same thing
Gilon McLachlan will have the top job next if the NRL doesn't steal him.
idiot!! he sold the sole of footy by taking it away from the majority and allowing the nazi's at fox to get the monpoly, and to ignore Tasmania in the expansion ::) flower you Andrew
Demetriou has done a few good things - he is a very good businessmen but since he has become head of the AFL the game has become much much more about money than it is about the fan experience (TV rights; ticket prices; the draw; etc)
With the draw, it used to be every team playing each other in the first 15 rounds (before expansion clubs came in) but now - for example - Adelaide played GWS in Rd 4 and Rd 16, yet Port have to wait til Rd 19 to play them... It is confusing and doesn't make much sense.
Demetriou is a great businessmen and if his role wasn't so public then he would be viewed as one of the best businessmen going around, as he has brought so much to the AFL and made it the highest-grossing code in Australia, and (arguably) the most popular
I do admit though that he has done some bad things - Match Review Panel and other UMPIRE-related stuff - but Gillon McLachlan will take over the reigns sooner rather than later so Demetriou will be gone in 2-3 years I think.
P.S. Jeff Gieschen has to go before Demetriou
Don't agree with everything he has does and is doing...
But hard to argue with results, so yeah, probably should still be running the show.
Having said that, would love a Tassie team Andy D.
Quote from: ossie85 on August 19, 2012, 07:47:20 PM
Don't agree with everything he has does and is doing...
But hard to argue with results, so yeah, probably should still be running the show.
Having said that, would love a Tassie team Andy D.
Well said Oss - Think you speak for most people with the comment.
Admitted when he was up here that he could have helped the Lions more by scheduling 2/3 Blockbusters at the Gabba rather than the one each season. Whether that was to take the heat of do not know.
And yes OSS agree there should have been a Tasmania team before either a second Qld or NSW Team. Maybe even a NT Team.
Agree with the comment earlier that the introduction of Auskick has had huge inroads in Qld. so credit due there.
Yeh agreed Tasmania should of been the next team in in my personal opinion. I once heard an explanation to the reason they went to Sydney again and it was that they already had the market in Tasmania and they wanted to expand into an area where thay didnt have the market to expand the supporter base of the comp. Now this is probably good buisiness sense i dont know and not interested in arguing the point but it must be abit of slap in the face to Tasmanian Footy fans. In honesty i never saw the sense
in going into Sydney again for another team with Port Adelaide struggling because it doesnt have a big enough supporter base to survive on its own yet with out help from the AFL, this will continue for some time as will the same issue for GWS. On the other hand Tasmania would of had to of been a safer option if not a certain winner in the present economic climate. History will show wether GWS at this point in time was a good idea or not.
Well being a former Tasmanian and now living in the ACT I really love having GWS playing there 3 games a year at Manuka. As going to the games in my Carlton scarf and GWS hat with most of the crowd showing loyalty to two teams. BUT I FEEL IT IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY BY THE AFL.
Demetrio is dreaming if they are going to get a team that will pay its own way in the West of Sydney. And yep why dont we build a stadium for them that is not in Western Sydney and also next to a stadium that holds 100,000 that AFL is also played at.
It is SHOCKING that Tasmania does not have its own team in the AFL. 500,000 people who do not have a game to watch their team.
Also get this scenario that is possible Hawthorn v North Melbourne grand final (the two tasmanian teams!!!) Are they going to play the grand final in Campbell Town?
Quote from: Grazz on August 19, 2012, 01:17:07 AM
No way, but dont get me started otherwise m0nty will be banning me. To think he'll be around for another 2 to 3 years possibly makes my skin crawl. Money hungry little fat small man syndrome White Goodman who incidently dont have a clue and he played the game.
God help us. ::). Yeh he's been behind the wheel when the AFL broke all records in TV rights but if Olive Oyle was behind the wheell the AFL would of generated as much capital, the sport is driving itself it only takes a halfwit to steer it, shame he doesnt qualify for that rank, 2 million a year with bonuses for his garbage not good enough not even close. Wouldnt wee on him if he was on fire. ::)
Quote from: tbagrocks on August 19, 2012, 06:47:16 PM
idiot!! he sold the sole of footy by taking it away from the majority and allowing the nazi's at fox to get the monpoly, and to ignore Tasmania in the expansion ::) flower you Andrew
Agree with both comments
I think he could do better, but doesn't do such a bad job.
Only thing that annoys me is that he cares more about the money and power than the game. I would of given a team to Tassie before GWS...
I would have also made sure that the smaller Vic teams are not struggling before bringing in more teams. Keeping teams like the Roos, Bulldogs and Melbourne around is vital to our game.
despite tassie having a larger supporter base, consider this
sydney have a population of 4.6 million
tasmania has a population of 500 000
so assume that lets say 60% of tasmanians follow afl, and only 10% of sydney siders
sydney- 460 000
tassie- 300 000
and that's being generous to tassie imo and harsh against sydney.
that is all, suck it, go giants.
Quote from: Ziplock on August 31, 2012, 06:59:05 PM
despite tassie having a larger supporter base, consider this
sydney have a population of 4.6 million
tasmania has a population of 500 000
so assume that lets say 60% of tasmanians follow afl, and only 10% of sydney siders
sydney- 460 000
tassie- 300 000
and that's being generous to tassie imo and harsh against sydney.
that is all, suck it, go giants.
Never said giving a team to GWS was a bad move. I said giving a team to Tassie first would of been better.
How has the attendance to the GWS games been this season? Imagine the attendance at Tassie games...
I don't think he's done an awful job but not too bad either. I wouldn't mind too much if he stays for another couple of years but that mid year holiday was a bit...bizzare. Fair enough if its 1-2 weeks or maybe 3, but 7? Anyway the thing that needs to be changed and should be the first priority at AFL House is the tribunal/mrp. There is absolutely no consistency at all in their findings and some players are banned for ridiculous when they should have got off and vice versa
I watched the interview his highness did on AFL 360 this week....not well.
What does he actually do...its seems there are people at AFL to do everything, and he takes no notice DURING an investigation?? Whenever he was asked a question he had no idea how to answer...all I could do was imagine him sitting at a desk being a thief of the money us supporters pay to follow the game.
I cant believe there is more of a public outcry at the moment...the bloke needs more scrutiny in the media...thats probably against the law as well I spose.
When the host put forward a logical scenario for the rd 23 timeslots, all Demetriou was interested in was TV rights...and actually laughed at the suggestions...totally disconnected from the fans IMO
I dont think its right at all that AFL has become the puppet of Ch 7.
The AFL should be more considerate to the fans that pay to go and watch games / buy memberships...sure TV is important but not to this extent that the Demetriou era has created
It would be very interesting to see what he gets up to from 9am - 5pm...Mon - Fri
Ive got a fair idea
Sweet FA.......and going to free lunches
Quote from: Ziplock on August 31, 2012, 06:59:05 PM
despite tassie having a larger supporter base, consider this
sydney have a population of 4.6 million
tasmania has a population of 500 000
so assume that lets say 60% of tasmanians follow afl, and only 10% of sydney siders
sydney- 460 000
tassie- 300 000
and that's being generous to tassie imo and harsh against sydney.
that is all, suck it, go giants.
Like Q i get that Zip but my point is how long will it take GWS to get that where they are positioned in Sydney.
I think Tasmania would of been the safer bet to be up and running with a ready made supporter base straightaway.
AFL went to Sydney to one up the NRL and try and get a foothold, not saying its shocking decision but the AFL
will be spending millions proping them up for years to come because of a lack of supporter base big enough to
be self sufficient, thats where my concern is, is the dollars that will need to be pumped into GWS going to be worth it long term
or would Tassy of been the safer cheaper option.
I dont get the AFL being so concerned about the NRL i cant see the NRL ever really rivalling the AFL tbh but there is smarter men
than me running it so i hope they know what they are doing.
more potential for a big supporter base :P
There have been some stats on population vs teams and a % of population that support the game. Now lets looks at Melbourne. Can they support 10 teams into the future?
Ive been in Melbourne grannies talk footy on the tram so its safe to assume that 70% of the population support footy. 4.1 million people x 70% = 2.87 mill / 10 teams is 287,000 per team. Going on previous figures then Tassie really does deserve a team.
How would victorians, croweaters, sangropers, waratahs, banana benders feel if you had no team to support or more importantly go and see a game each week-end and bring your kids to - who are the future of the game. The game would die in that region. Look at the ACT in the 70's an AFL town - enter the Canberra Raiders and now its all NRL here - the kids are the future if you don't market the game to them you have lost.
So does the AFL expand further for Tasmania or does it relocate a Victorian team. ( please don't say Carlton we have pokies and cardboard boxes)