Hey guys, this idea was floated in the English 15s draft thread and was pretty popular so I am just bringing it here now to see if it will go ahead.
Basically I am thinking we try and draft the best team we possibly can (taking into account actual AFL performance and structure, so not fantasy points which means we need FBs and CHBs and stuff) I guess for the team you would want if it were playing a grand final at the conclusion of the draft. Maybe we could actually have a voting system at the end where 1 by 1 we match up teams and have a knockout comp to decide the winner.
Things like injuries and suspensions would be ignored, it would be assumed that every player is fit and ready to play. If it was a knockout comp, we would need 8 or 16 teams, how many would people prefer ?
Also, I think it is fair if we dont just use the AFL team names, maybe get inventive and make our own ;) Anyway let me know who, how and what you are keen for :)
EDIT: Also just adding, I would definitely want to enforce a 24-hour time limit so only commit if you are active enough to do so. Obviously pms forward and stuff can help :)
List of Coaches:
Scrads: Atlanta Hawks
KoopKicka: Seattle Sonics
BB0618: LA Lakers
roo boys:
monstrum: Boston Celtics
Spinking: New York Knicks
JBs Hawks:
Noz: Dallas Mavericks
whatlez:
picker_man: Miami Heat
Jukes: OKC Thunder
Holz/ele:
Zombie2.5: Chicago Bulls
meow meow: Harlem Globetrotters
Im certainly in Scrads, looking to progress from an English 15's assistant ::)
I reckon 16 teams. Ill think of a name, but yeah, lock me in. :)
I'm in. Sounds brilliant.
Yeah sure, why not!
yeah i'm keen sounds good
how would they play against each other? using SC scores or something>?
Quote from: monstrum on June 26, 2012, 09:35:14 PM
yeah i'm keen sounds good
how would they play against each other? using SC scores or something>?
Teams matched up randomly h2h in a knockout format, voters would vote for the best side. This is for actual AFL performance instead of fantasy scores, so you wouldnt get many votes if you didnt have a proper FB (Darren Glass) and such.
I'm in Scrads.
Do we need some clarification around how many of each position should be selected or is it just open slather?
Quote from: Spinking on June 26, 2012, 09:43:25 PM
I'm in Scrads.
Do we need some clarification around how many of each position should be selected or is it just open slather?
Basically name your team like a normal 21+ sub + 3 emergencies I reckon.
When are you thinking of kicking off?
Quote from: Spinking on June 26, 2012, 09:46:09 PM
When are you thinking of kicking off?
As soon as we have 16 coaches playing. I was thinking a 48 hour time limit for the first round, and 24 hours for every round after that.
Me too mate
Im in :)
sweet sounds good scrads
hey scrads put watlez in he's not on but he'll wanna do it
Quote from: monstrum on June 26, 2012, 09:52:02 PM
hey scrads put watlez in he's not on but he'll wanna do it
Yeah was actually just about to =P
count me in scrads ;D
How are we establishing team names?
Quote from: Spinking on June 26, 2012, 09:57:42 PM
How are we establishing team names?
Well I didnt want to use the names of the actual AFL teams...
Would people be against the idea of using NBA team names ? :)
Would 12 be better? Quality of teams would be higher...
And as long as I'm Lakers that's fine :).
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: Spinking on June 26, 2012, 09:57:42 PM
How are we establishing team names?
Well I didnt want to use the names of the actual AFL teams...
Would people be against the idea of using NBA team names ? :)
If im Miami Heat im happy ;)
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on June 26, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
Would 12 be better? Quality of teams would be higher...
And as long as I'm Lakers that's fine :).
Need 8 or 16 for a knockout style comp, unless you have a different idea on how to run the judging...?
With 12 can't do a knockout, but maybe could do pools or something.
Not up with NBA teams but I'll take the Knicks (if they still exist...)
Mavericks!
Atlanta Hawks.
NBA teams it is ;)
I might be in (assistant maybe?)
Edit: I'll be a full team coach as OKC
Watch out for the Ele/Holz combo
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on June 26, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
Would 12 be better? Quality of teams would be higher...
And as long as I'm Lakers that's fine
Need 8 or 16 for a knockout style comp, unless you have a different idea on how to run the judging...?
Yeah whoops. Just thought 16 would weaken teams a bit as that's 352 players that need to be chosen.
Quote from: Spinking on June 26, 2012, 10:06:11 PM
With 12 can't do a knockout, but maybe could do pools or something.
Not up with NBA teams but I'll take the Knicks (if they still exist...)
Would rather keep the KO comp and keep it simple tbh, 16 teams shouldnt be too hard, there are 18 teams in the league after all. Probs makes it better to judge because it wont be just all guns.
I'm in. I reckon 16, but if it starts getting too many coaches, then like the others we can have assistants, although not really necessary as its not like a 5 year comp like the English, Worlds etc..
We should choose our own team names, but do we have to choose a city or anything?
So we just pick a full team and field 22 guys, in their position so 6 backs, 6 forwards etc?
I need an assistant. PM me if you are interested but I will put you through a strenuous interview.
Will it be voted on by general FanFooty users, or should we have a panel of experienced non coaches?
Quote from: Zombie2.5 on June 26, 2012, 10:14:59 PM
I'm in. I reckon 16, but if it starts getting too many coaches, then like the others we can have assistants, although not really necessary as its not like a 5 year comp like the English, Worlds etc..
We should choose our own team names, but do we have to choose a city or anything?
Yeah 16 it is. And NBA teams it is, just go to the NBA site and pick from the remaining teams if you dont know them.
Assistants are allowed, but yeah not sure how valuable they will be.
I'd say general public. If you post in front bar usually the more experienced go in here anyway.
Probably an open vote. But I would encourage people to give ratings out of 10 for Backs, Forwards and mids (including ruck) so they dont just browse over each team they actually focus on each area.
maybe a voting panel can be arranged scrads? saves ppl (probly whatlez) voting for themselves lol
Can I be the Seattle Sonics even though they are defunct?
Quote from: Noz on June 26, 2012, 10:15:37 PM
So we just pick a full team and field 22 guys, in their position so 6 backs, 6 forwards etc?
Yes, I will scrap the emergencies.
6 backs.
6 forwards
5 mids
1 ruck
3 interchange
1 sub.
Quote from: KoopKicka on June 26, 2012, 10:21:23 PM
Can I be the Seattle Sonics even though they are defunct?
yes.
Quote from: monstrum on June 26, 2012, 10:21:08 PM
maybe a voting panel can be arranged scrads? saves ppl (probly whatlez) voting for themselves lol
How about the 14 other coaches in each match up be the voting panel ?
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 10:23:51 PM
Quote from: KoopKicka on June 26, 2012, 10:21:23 PM
Can I be the Seattle Sonics even though they are defunct?
yes.
Cheers Scrads, Im in then as Seattle then (:
Only 3 spots open :)
If you be my assistant you get a cookie. Do others give you a cookie?
I'll take Chicago bulls. Random pick.
Just confirming guys.
Drafting the best team you can for an AFL Match (no relevance to fantasy footy).
Injuries and Suspension ignored.
Teams of 22. 6 backs, 6 forwards, 5 mids, 1 ruck, 3 interchange, 1 sub.
First round time limit 48 hours, every round thereafter is 24 hours.
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 10:32:57 PM
Just confirming guys.
Drafting the best team you can for an AFL Match (no relevance to fantasy footy).
Injuries and Suspension ignored.
Teams of 22. 6 backs, 6 forwards, 5 mids, 1 ruck, 3 interchange, 1 sub.
First round time limit 48 hours, every round thereafter is 24 hours.
So to clarify - interchange and sub can come from anywhere?
Yep Spin,
maybe if we get the teams we might kick this off later tonight or tomorrow? (Wishful thinking) :P
Judging:
I was thinking that when we go to h2h matches, all the other coaches vote for who they think will win. Maybe I have to give everyone a vote structure like:
Defence:
Midfield:
Forwards:
Flexibility:
Balance:
and you state who is better in each category, so one team will obv win 3 votes out of 5 (at least) and therefore get that persons overall vote.
Thoughts ?
I'll have a crack at this.
Quote from: KoopKicka on June 26, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
Yep Spin,
maybe if we get the teams we might kick this off later tonight or tomorrow? (Wishful thinking) :P
Only need 2 more teams :)
Agree that there needs to be a structure for allocating the vote. Concern might be gamesmanship - couldn't competing coaches vote for weaker teams to increase their chances of winning?
Also what are you calling this Scrads?
Quote from: meow meow on June 26, 2012, 10:40:08 PM
I'll have a crack at this.
I'm interested to go up against Meow, my drafting guru in the English. Good luck mate!
The other alternative is we get a panel of say 5 people who judge each match up for us, that would have to mean 5 people who aren't taking part in the game to commit though...
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 10:45:11 PM
The other alternative is we get a panel of say 5 people who judge each match up for us, that would have to mean 5 people who aren't taking part in the game to commit though...
I prefer this. 5 well respected impartial coaches.
Quote from: Spinking on June 26, 2012, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on June 26, 2012, 10:40:08 PM
I'll have a crack at this.
I'm interested to go up against Meow, my drafting guru in the English. Good luck mate!
I'm sure you'll do well without my help.
I want my team to be the Harlem Globetrotters.
We seem to be stuck on 14 guys, does anyone want to stop it at 14, then when we do KO, cut it to 7 first round, then have a wildcard come back in from the eliminated 7 teams ?
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
We seem to be stuck on 14 guys, does anyone want to stop it at 14, then when we do KO, cut it to 7 first round, then have a wildcard come back in from the eliminated 7 teams ?
sounds good.
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
We seem to be stuck on 14 guys, does anyone want to stop it at 14, then when we do KO, cut it to 7 first round, then have a wildcard come back in from the eliminated 7 teams ?
If another 2 want to join before we have completed the first round then there would be nothing stopping them, would there?
Quote from: Holzman on June 26, 2012, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
We seem to be stuck on 14 guys, does anyone want to stop it at 14, then when we do KO, cut it to 7 first round, then have a wildcard come back in from the eliminated 7 teams ?
sounds good.
Have 2 conferences, 14 teams split into 2 conferences.
Conference 1
A,B,C,D,E,F,G
Conference 2
H,I,J,K,L,M,N
Everyone round someone from the first conference plays someone from the second conference while head to head matches go on like the same say
Conference 1 Conference 2 Conference battle
A V B H V I G V N
C V D J V K
E V F L V M
Quote from: Noz on June 26, 2012, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: Holzman on June 26, 2012, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
We seem to be stuck on 14 guys, does anyone want to stop it at 14, then when we do KO, cut it to 7 first round, then have a wildcard come back in from the eliminated 7 teams ?
sounds good.
Have 2 conferences, 14 teams split into 2 conferences.
Conference 1
A,B,C,D,E,F,G
Conference 2
H,I,J,K,L,M,N
Everyone round someone from the first conference plays someone from the second conference while head to head matches go on like the same say
Conference 1 Conference 2 Conference battle
A V B H V I G V N
C V D J V K
E V F L V M
I think it would be a little tedious mathcing up EVERYONES teams together, but it is something to build off.
Everyone want the draft to start tonight ? ;) to random.org :P
13 Zombie
12 Holz/ele
2 KoopKicka
14 meow meow
1 Scrads
7 JBs Hawks
4 roo boys
9 whatlez
5 monstrum
6 Spinking
10 picker_man
11 Jukes
8 Noz
3 BB0618
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 11:30:14 PM
13 Zombie
12 Holz/ele
2 KoopKicka
14 meow meow
1 Scrads
7 JBs Hawks
4 roo boys
9 whatlez
5 monstrum
6 Spinking
10 picker_man
11 Jukes
8 Noz
3 BB0618
The Numbers are the order, right?
Or the people listed?
Plus, if we start tonight don't think we'll get very far. Think whatlez is off till tomorrow and its BB's turn for the English, he hasn't picked yet.
the number is the order that people signed up, the way its listed is the order from random.org
and I am number 1 because I am started up first, the number was the list from random.org, the way it is listed is the draft order :P Check the draft thread ;)
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Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 11:32:36 PM
the number is the order that people signed up, the way its listed is the order from random.org
Ah, ok.
I think we should start tomorrow, i mean whatlez doesn't even know about this, does he? Also you've only gotten people from one night, if someone isn't on today, then they miss out(for now anyways). Should give it a day at least. Pretty sure if you asked all the English coaches, they'd all want to join.
Quote from: Zombie2.5 on June 26, 2012, 11:37:33 PM
Quote from: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 11:32:36 PM
the number is the order that people signed up, the way its listed is the order from random.org
Ah, ok.
I think we should start tomorrow, i mean whatlez doesn't even know about this, does he? Also you've only gotten people from one night, if someone isn't on today, then they miss out(for now anyways). Should give it a day at least. Pretty sure if you asked all the English coaches, they'd all want to join.
Well we can start now, like you said it will only get to whatlez before it stops. anyone else who joins can just get added to the end. the time limit is 48 hours, no one will exceed that for sure. So go ahead and start now in the draft thread :)
Is there a site anywhere that rates players games out of 10? Because we could use that as a scoring system.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 26, 2012, 11:43:16 PM
Is there a site anywhere that rates players games out of 10? Because we could use that as a scoring system.
The closest thing i can think on is when you subscribe to the hearldsun thing after each match you can vote the best 5 players in the games 5,4,3,2,1. Then it gives you a list of all the players and where they are ranked for the game.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on June 26, 2012, 11:43:16 PM
Is there a site anywhere that rates players games out of 10? Because we could use that as a scoring system.
Where would the fun of that be ? people would just line up all the players and pick the highest ranked down to the lowest ranked players...
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Whos up? Wheres the draft order?
Quote from: monstrum on June 27, 2012, 04:10:11 PM
Whos up? Wheres the draft order?
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,63413.0.html
would of done it, but saw OKC were already taken, such a shame!