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Title: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: MTTY on June 26, 2012, 04:07:13 PM
The Trade period will work as follows:

Trade Period 1

Starts: After the Official Draft is complete

Ends: At the start of the National Draft

Trades: You may have up to 5 list changes, meaning that after you have finished drafting in the official draft that you can only add  or take five players/draft picks from your list. However if you get a player and then on trade that same player for another player it will still only count as 1 list change.


Trade Period 2

Starts: After the National Draft

Ends: The Monday before the season begins

Trades: At this stage i am thinking unlimited




Note: The National Draft order will be the reverse order of the Official draft for this year as we do not have a ladder to base the lowest to highest finishing teams on. From 2013 on wards it will be the ladder backwards.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Holz on June 26, 2012, 04:10:17 PM
good stuff MTTY, just a suggestion maybee a limit of 10 in the second period. People probably wont use more than that anyway but we don't wont people completely changing their squads.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: MTTY on June 26, 2012, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: Holzman on June 26, 2012, 04:10:17 PM
good stuff MTTY, just a suggestion maybee a limit of 10 in the second period. People probably wont use more than that anyway but we don't wont people completely changing their squads.

Yeah i was a little uncertain on that i think i will definitely cap it. 10 does sounds good.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Spite on June 26, 2012, 05:19:16 PM
Note: The National Draft order will be the reverse order of the Official draft for this year as we do not have a ladder to base the lowest to highest finishing teams on. From 2013 on wards it will be the ladder backwards.

But that's why we have a snaked draft, so that the person with the 1st pick get's 2 in a row. That is better than say, the person with the second last pick. I always though the person with the middle pick gets flowered over?

I'd be all for having a mini series after the draft of a few rounds to see how teams are scoring (so they know where weak points are) and do the draft based on that? But with rules saying you must play, let's say 10 of your 15 highest averaging players to stop tanking etc?...
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 26, 2012, 05:27:48 PM
Quote from: Spite on June 26, 2012, 05:19:16 PM
Note: The National Draft order will be the reverse order of the Official draft for this year as we do not have a ladder to base the lowest to highest finishing teams on. From 2013 on wards it will be the ladder backwards.

But that's why we have a snaked draft, so that the person with the 1st pick get's 2 in a row. That is better than say, the person with the second last pick. I always though the person with the middle pick gets flowered over?

I'd be all for having a mini series after the draft of a few rounds to see how teams are scoring (so they know where weak points are) and do the draft based on that? But with rules saying you must play, let's say 10 of your 15 highest averaging players to stop tanking etc?...
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Holz on June 26, 2012, 05:30:54 PM
Quote from: Spite on June 26, 2012, 05:19:16 PM
Note: The National Draft order will be the reverse order of the Official draft for this year as we do not have a ladder to base the lowest to highest finishing teams on. From 2013 on wards it will be the ladder backwards.

But that's why we have a snaked draft, so that the person with the 1st pick get's 2 in a row. That is better than say, the person with the second last pick. I always though the person with the middle pick gets flowered over?

I'd be all for having a mini series after the draft of a few rounds to see how teams are scoring (so they know where weak points are) and do the draft based on that? But with rules saying you must play, let's say 10 of your 15 highest averaging players to stop tanking etc?...

Strongly against this idea. The reverse draft is used because some people had better draft positions in the afl draft so the reverse draft counters this.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Spite on June 26, 2012, 05:34:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on June 26, 2012, 05:30:54 PM
Quote from: Spite on June 26, 2012, 05:19:16 PM
Note: The National Draft order will be the reverse order of the Official draft for this year as we do not have a ladder to base the lowest to highest finishing teams on. From 2013 on wards it will be the ladder backwards.

But that's why we have a snaked draft, so that the person with the 1st pick get's 2 in a row. That is better than say, the person with the second last pick. I always though the person with the middle pick gets flowered over?

I'd be all for having a mini series after the draft of a few rounds to see how teams are scoring (so they know where weak points are) and do the draft based on that? But with rules saying you must play, let's say 10 of your 15 highest averaging players to stop tanking etc?...

Strongly against this idea. The reverse draft is used because some people had better draft positions in the afl draft so the reverse draft counters this.

I don't understand what you said, or why torp just quoted what I said?

We had a snaked draft to 'make it fair'

So why should someone get a better pick than another person if it is already made fair?

I would take 2 picks in a row + number 1 draft pick, any day of the week over a middle round pick.

I'd say mini series, or random.org draft and snaked again
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Ziplock on June 26, 2012, 05:36:47 PM
you guys are just running one draft right? Like its not like world and euros where we ran multiple for national/ rookie drafts as well, since you'r ejust drafting afl listed players

if you've only had one draft, and one order, then reversing the order for the nat. draft makes perfect sense. Like, it wouldn't be fair to have someone get first pick in the actual draft, and get first pick in the national draft as well.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Spite on June 26, 2012, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 26, 2012, 05:36:47 PM
you guys are just running one draft right? Like its not like world and euros where we ran multiple for national/ rookie drafts as well, since you'r ejust drafting afl listed players

if you've only had one draft, and one order, then reversing the order for the nat. draft makes perfect sense. Like, it wouldn't be fair to have someone get first pick in the actual draft, and get first pick in the national draft as well.

Yes, but you are forgetting we snaked the draft to make it fair already. It should be totally random/mini series who gets the first pick because the afl player draft is already "perfectly fair".
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Torpedo10 on June 26, 2012, 05:47:19 PM
Just reverse main Draft picks.  ::)
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Holz on June 26, 2012, 05:48:26 PM
Quote from: Spite on June 26, 2012, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 26, 2012, 05:36:47 PM
you guys are just running one draft right? Like its not like world and euros where we ran multiple for national/ rookie drafts as well, since you'r ejust drafting afl listed players

if you've only had one draft, and one order, then reversing the order for the nat. draft makes perfect sense. Like, it wouldn't be fair to have someone get first pick in the actual draft, and get first pick in the national draft as well.

Yes, but you are forgetting we snaked the draft to make it fair already. It should be totally random/mini series who gets the first pick because the afl player draft is already "perfectly fair".

than using a reverse sanke draft for the national should be fair aswell. If the picks are done by a competition than all it does is give a massive advantage to young teams and hurts old teams. Thats ok after a year into the comp but its unfair before we even get to start.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Spite on June 26, 2012, 05:49:19 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on June 26, 2012, 05:47:19 PM
Just reverse main Draft picks.  ::)

Can I call you biased knowing you are likely to get the number 1 pick? :P Atleast you know I am in the middle no matter what happens...
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Ziplock on June 26, 2012, 05:53:20 PM
Quote from: Spite on June 26, 2012, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 26, 2012, 05:36:47 PM
you guys are just running one draft right? Like its not like world and euros where we ran multiple for national/ rookie drafts as well, since you'r ejust drafting afl listed players

if you've only had one draft, and one order, then reversing the order for the nat. draft makes perfect sense. Like, it wouldn't be fair to have someone get first pick in the actual draft, and get first pick in the national draft as well.

Yes, but you are forgetting we snaked the draft to make it fair already. It should be totally random/mini series who gets the first pick because the afl player draft is already "perfectly fair".

no, I'm not forgetting that.

it's literally the fairest way lol...
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Justin Bieber on June 26, 2012, 06:01:40 PM
When trading you have to trade two players two right?

So say I trade Trent Cotchin and i'm getting Ryan Griffin and round 1 draft pick, that is not possible.

I have to trade two of my players, so Trent cotchin and 4th round pick for Ryan Griffen and first round pick.

Is this correct?
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: JBs-Hawks on June 26, 2012, 06:28:25 PM
Correct
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Scrads on June 26, 2012, 08:07:19 PM
Spite:

Im pretty sure the National draft picks get snaked as well, meaning it is just as fair as the initial draft except in reverse order (possibly making it fairer)
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: picker_man on June 26, 2012, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Spite on June 26, 2012, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on June 26, 2012, 05:36:47 PM
you guys are just running one draft right? Like its not like world and euros where we ran multiple for national/ rookie drafts as well, since you'r ejust drafting afl listed players

if you've only had one draft, and one order, then reversing the order for the nat. draft makes perfect sense. Like, it wouldn't be fair to have someone get first pick in the actual draft, and get first pick in the national draft as well.

Yes, but you are forgetting we snaked the draft to make it fair already. It should be totally random/mini series who gets the first pick because the afl player draft is already "perfectly fair".

It makes total sense like Ziplock said to just do the opposte of this draft.... Yeah i might get 2nd pick but i wont be as happy with 2nd pick in the national draft as i would be with 2nd pick of pendlebury in player draft. Not sure what the issue is spike..... keep it fair mate ;)
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Spite on June 26, 2012, 09:39:57 PM
Alright if you guys are all happy, then that's cool. Thanks Scrads and picket_man ;)
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: monstrum on July 08, 2012, 09:56:44 PM
just gettin on the thread
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 08, 2012, 10:55:50 PM
So who wants Pearce Hanley. I like him, but others like him more!!
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: elephants on July 08, 2012, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 08, 2012, 10:55:50 PM
So who wants Pearce Hanley. I like him, but others like him more!!
Lol.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 08, 2012, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 08, 2012, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 08, 2012, 10:55:50 PM
So who wants Pearce Hanley. I like him, but others like him more!!
Lol.

Not only you mate. I've gotten some bigger offer then your one :P
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: elephants on July 08, 2012, 11:32:56 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 08, 2012, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 08, 2012, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: whatlez on July 08, 2012, 10:55:50 PM
So who wants Pearce Hanley. I like him, but others like him more!!
Lol.

Not only you mate. I've gotten some bigger offer then your one :P

Hahah I sincerely hope so :P
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Noz on July 09, 2012, 01:29:32 AM
James Kelly will be on the trade table.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: elephants on July 09, 2012, 01:53:40 AM
Quote from: Noz on July 09, 2012, 01:29:32 AM
James Kelly will be on the trade table.

If only he was a backmen like he used to be...
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Noz on July 09, 2012, 02:32:19 AM
Quote from: elephants on July 09, 2012, 01:53:40 AM
Quote from: Noz on July 09, 2012, 01:29:32 AM
James Kelly will be on the trade table.

If only he was a backmen like he used to be...
Make a play for him, he could be changed to a defender next year.  ;)
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: elephants on July 09, 2012, 02:40:39 AM
Quote from: Noz on July 09, 2012, 02:32:19 AM
Quote from: elephants on July 09, 2012, 01:53:40 AM
Quote from: Noz on July 09, 2012, 01:29:32 AM
James Kelly will be on the trade table.

If only he was a backmen like he used to be...
Make a play for him, he could be changed to a defender next year.  ;)

Haha, unlikely but possibly :P doesn't fit our tactic though...
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: FisherSaints on July 09, 2012, 05:15:48 PM
Speak to me and Colli if you want to trade!
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Boomz on July 09, 2012, 05:28:19 PM
Bellchambers is on the table for the right offer.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: BB67th on July 09, 2012, 05:44:01 PM
Word around the Leeches is that Foley or Howe may be going for the right price.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: picker_man on July 09, 2012, 06:43:14 PM
any chance of upping the 1st trade limit of 5 to say 8 or 10?? Since all my trades are looking like they will include draft picks they need to be made in the 1st trade period but one big trade being worked on leaves me with flower all trades for anything else >:(
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: monstrum on July 09, 2012, 08:58:31 PM
Maybe trades shouldn't matter how many players r involved. It's just a trade. So if two parties trade 3 for 3 it's still 1 trade?
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: PowerBug on July 11, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
What's the point of a draft then??
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: elephants on July 11, 2012, 07:55:57 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 11, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
What's the point of a draft then??

People just wanna change tact depending on real-life situations I reckon. Without trades they can't do that.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: monstrum on July 11, 2012, 08:09:38 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 11, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
What's the point of a draft then??

What u mean whats the point?..
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: PowerBug on July 11, 2012, 08:13:02 PM
Quote from: monstrum on July 11, 2012, 08:09:38 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 11, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
What's the point of a draft then??

What u mean whats the point?..
well, why pick 40+ players only to go trade 10 of them. Defeats the prupose of a draft imo.

5 is also pretty lienient before the draft. Should be limited to 3 before the draft, and then about 7 afterwards.
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: monstrum on July 11, 2012, 08:15:11 PM
Yeh maybe, i just like the idea of getting players i thought might slip further or whatever. Plus its not light anyone will trade 5 gungs for 5 duds itll stay fair
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: PowerBug on July 11, 2012, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: monstrum on July 11, 2012, 08:15:11 PM
Yeh maybe, i just like the idea of getting players i thought might slip further or whatever. Plus its not light anyone will trade 5 gungs for 5 duds itll stay fair
well, by capping the trades it assures of it. ;)
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: picker_man on July 11, 2012, 08:30:33 PM
Yeah dont see any good point on why it needs to be capped at 5 and not a few more

anywayz its going to a vote apparently so we'll all have our say then ;D
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: elephants on July 11, 2012, 08:31:49 PM
Pickers mate, I've PM'd MTTY about the trade but am yet to get a reply?? :)
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: picker_man on July 11, 2012, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 11, 2012, 08:31:49 PM
Pickers mate, I've PM'd MTTY about the trade but am yet to get a reply?? :)

Sweet ele, if you hear back tonight i'll jump on chat and then try work ours out  :)


Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: elephants on July 30, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
Sooo... Speaking of trades.

Anything happening yet?
Title: Re: English 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Justin Bieber on July 30, 2012, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 30, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
Sooo... Speaking of trades.

Anything happening yet?

I know a few already happened. Nothing with the Badgers though :P
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: elephants on August 03, 2012, 08:22:36 PM
Fair bit of recent chatter being sparked up!!
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: BB67th on August 04, 2012, 01:20:47 PM
Just wondering what people would be willing to offer for contested ball machine Luke Shuey at this stage.
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 04, 2012, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: BB67th on August 04, 2012, 01:20:47 PM
Just wondering what people would be willing to offer for contested ball machine Luke Shuey at this stage.

Not Cotchin, but I would offer something significant.
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Nails on August 04, 2012, 01:29:37 PM
Someone offer me stuff for:

Pick 4, 33 and 40 at the NAT Draft
Any of our players available... (for the right price)
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: BB67th on August 04, 2012, 01:29:48 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 04, 2012, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: BB67th on August 04, 2012, 01:20:47 PM
Just wondering what people would be willing to offer for contested ball machine Luke Shuey at this stage.

Not Cotchin, but I would offer something significant.
Pm me to make an offer.
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 04, 2012, 01:35:31 PM
I would need to wait until post season.
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: picker_man on August 04, 2012, 01:42:47 PM
used all your trades up lez?
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 04, 2012, 01:44:53 PM
Haven't used one trade yet. Happy with the young talent I have ;D
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 04, 2012, 03:08:10 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 04, 2012, 01:29:37 PM
Someone offer me stuff for:

Pick 4, 33 and 40 at the NAT Draft
Any of our players available... (for the right price)
Leuy for blease
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 04, 2012, 03:28:54 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 04, 2012, 03:08:10 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 04, 2012, 01:29:37 PM
Someone offer me stuff for:

Pick 4, 33 and 40 at the NAT Draft
Any of our players available... (for the right price)
Leuy for blease

I think he is getting better out of that trade ;D
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: PowerBug on August 04, 2012, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: whatlez on August 04, 2012, 03:28:54 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 04, 2012, 03:08:10 PM
Quote from: Nails on August 04, 2012, 01:29:37 PM
Someone offer me stuff for:

Pick 4, 33 and 40 at the NAT Draft
Any of our players available... (for the right price)
Leuy for blease

I think he is getting better out of that trade ;D
Chuck in a packet of Original Smiths and it's a deal.
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: monstrum on August 04, 2012, 09:10:50 PM
So now that we're brittish 15's r we aloud to change our names?
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 05, 2012, 12:27:42 AM
Buddy is avaliable altho I am very close to a trade involving him. Any offers please pm me, try and do it quickly otherwise he'll go.
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 05, 2012, 12:57:12 AM
Well reply to my message?
Title: Re: British 15's - Trading Thread and Rules
Post by: Justin Bieber on August 05, 2012, 01:04:36 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 05, 2012, 12:57:12 AM
Well reply to my message?

He has gone to bed  ;D