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Title: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Didds70 on January 18, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
Gday All ,

Another day , more considerations , maybe new names come to light etc ..... ,

Long story short , am considering a joint effort with a mate , a 50/50 team in the one leauge . I choose 15 , he 15 to start off , and after heaps of fart arseing around we'll eventaully agree on something .

Had a situation this morning where I had noticed my offsider had inserted Brett Peake as a Mid 4 , my eyes glazed over and I went for the Panadol . Having tidied up that little mess with a few moves , ended up being able to scrape in Mr M Barlow into M4 .

Then got thinking , "well if not Barlow , who else ? "

Have done a fair ammount of research 2day & in this case , " if not Barlow " , the winner is ........

Scott Selwood , Allen Christensen or Ben Howlett in my books .

I'd be prepared to install Ben Howlett as my/our M4 . Locked . ( Alternative would be spend on another Mid Rookie )

True risk , absolute risk on maybe a go nowhere man , but I'll stick my neck out and see what happens .

If you were or are in a similar situation & throw off the life vest , sink or swim , who would you love to have a crack at just 'cos ?

From any corner of the field .

Keep the game unique fellas & dare to be different .

Cheers .





Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: pavs nose on January 18, 2012, 10:27:36 PM
It's good to be different mate but not including Barlow will put you at a disadvantage to all teams that do have him from the beginning
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Didds70 on January 18, 2012, 10:45:32 PM
Quote from: pavs nose on January 18, 2012, 10:27:36 PM
It's good to be different mate but not including Barlow will put you at a disadvantage to all teams that do have him from the beginning
Yep point taken pav , but this after all , hopefully is a post about sticking your neck out & challenging not only others but , your own judgement .

Played in and won a very strong leauge last year and my opponent & I differed by i think around 12 or 13 players onfield in the GF . ( I was helped out by a heap of Hawks resting - LUCK !! ) So yes , It's great to differ , but there is a limit of course .

This post isn't about M.Barlow in any way , it's hopefully about researching ALL potentials rather than just following the Sheeple .

All the best pav .
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Colliwobblers on January 18, 2012, 10:50:51 PM
Yeah for that price point in the mids Barlow is a total lock, no competition at all.

But, in answer to your question a couple i would like to have a crack at but probably won't risk would be

VanBerlo (ADE)
J Trengove
Ziebell
Dangerfield
HMac
Lewis
LeCras
Watts
Thornton
Grima
Suban

Thre you go a bunch of just a few players that I "Like the way they play" and that have the potential to be good DT'ers but require huge balls to pick :) for one reason or another
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: sliced ham on January 18, 2012, 11:07:18 PM
i would love to fit Gaff in but i  think i will have to wait another year.... so probably him. J trengove would have to be up there.
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: GoldDigger on January 18, 2012, 11:13:48 PM
Selwood and Christensen look good for mine.
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Didds70 on January 18, 2012, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: sliced ham on January 18, 2012, 11:07:18 PM
i would love to fit Gaff in but i  think i will have to wait another year.... so probably him. J trengove would have to be up there.
Yep fair call Ham , I'd lean Trengove . All down to structure & it is a difficult area price wise for sure . Probably just one price area completely overlooked 'cos there may well be nuffink in it .

Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Didds70 on January 18, 2012, 11:51:21 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on January 18, 2012, 10:50:51 PM
Yeah for that price point in the mids Barlow is a total lock, no competition at all.

But, in answer to your question a couple i would like to have a crack at but probably won't risk would be

VanBerlo (ADE)
J Trengove
Ziebell
Dangerfield
HMac
Lewis
LeCras
Watts
Thornton
Grima
Suban

Thre you go a bunch of just a few players that I "Like the way they play" and that have the potential to be good DT'ers but require huge balls to pick :) for one reason or another

Geez Man , I'm starting to wonder if this was he smartest post , it gets tough !! Erm , DANGER from that list .  ;D
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: pavs nose on January 19, 2012, 12:02:21 AM
Didds one player I know I will get mocked for having is robin nahas. Played 22 last year with a good ave. Doubt many will pick him so should be a big point of diff for me
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Didds70 on January 19, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
Quote from: GoldDigger on January 18, 2012, 11:13:48 PM
Selwood and Christensen look good for mine.

Decent call Digger , honestly not all that up there with S Selwood but A Christensen maybe a potential for sure .

Can I just get back to some stats ( 2011 ) : Mr Barlow Average 24 poss , 11 Contested , Disposal Eff % = 65 , 4.1 clearances , 4.1 tackles .

Mr Howlett Average 18.5 poss , 8.8 Contested , Disp Eff % = 69 % , 4 clearances , 6.7 tackles .

I'll still stick my neck out !!

Being a Bomber , gotta be perochial . HOWLETT , get on .
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Bluesman on January 19, 2012, 12:16:54 AM
Tom Hawkins. I really see some potential and would love to pick him but know i won't!  :-\ (Also Naitanui and Gaff to a lesser extent)
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Colliwobblers on January 19, 2012, 12:19:41 AM
I didn't put christensen or conca because at the moment i have both, subject to change with very little notice :) but i'm over 90% locked on Christo and at least 75% on Conca.

Both will be under the 2nd year curse so that's my head stuck out waiting to be knocked off  :P
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Didds70 on January 19, 2012, 12:23:26 AM
Quote from: pavs nose on January 19, 2012, 12:02:21 AM
Didds one player I know I will get mocked for having is robin nahas. Played 22 last year with a good ave. Doubt many will pick him so should be a big point of diff for me
THAT is what I'm lookin for pav , that is a ballsy move mate , very comfortable with that . Not my choice , BUT definately one of those uniques that may set you apart from others in ur leauge . Great selection . X Factor selection I believe .

My Dad ( 65yo ) is a fan of Robbie Nahas , loves him , the game has to have flighty pinch hitters , Nahas is one .

Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Didds70 on January 19, 2012, 12:41:40 AM
Quote from: Bluesman on January 19, 2012, 12:16:54 AM
Tom Hawkins. I really see some potential and would love to pick him but know i won't!  :-\ (Also Naitanui and Gaff to a lesser extent)
Good spotting Bluesman , very much agreed , have posted somewhere else re: TomaHawk & also Luke Breust .

But Yes , Tom Hawkins , was later last year enough ?? I'll pass , but really want this fella to dominate consistently . It'd be great to see another Wayne Carey going around for a few years . ( that's my opinion only ) ...

It's still a big call Scoach structure wise Bluesman . I'm goin for the Panadol again . ( Go the Dons .)
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Nieso FC on January 19, 2012, 11:03:44 AM
Sloane anyone, does have an easy draw at the begining

Shhhhhhh ;)
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on January 19, 2012, 11:24:27 AM
Quote from: Didds70 on January 18, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
Gday All ,

Another day , more considerations , maybe new names come to light etc ..... ,

Long story short , am considering a joint effort with a mate , a 50/50 team in the one leauge . I choose 15 , he 15 to start off , and after heaps of fart arseing around we'll eventaully agree on something .

Had a situation this morning where I had noticed my offsider had inserted Brett Peake as a Mid 4 , my eyes glazed over and I went for the Panadol . Having tidied up that little mess with a few moves , ended up being able to scrape in Mr M Barlow into M4 .

Then got thinking , "well if not Barlow , who else ? "

Have done a fair ammount of research 2day & in this case , " if not Barlow " , the winner is ........

Scott Selwood , Allen Christensen or Ben Howlett in my books .

I'd be prepared to install Ben Howlett as my/our M4 . Locked . ( Alternative would be spend on another Mid Rookie )

True risk , absolute risk on maybe a go nowhere man , but I'll stick my neck out and see what happens .

If you were or are in a similar situation & throw off the life vest , sink or swim , who would you love to have a crack at just 'cos ?

From any corner of the field .

Keep the game unique fellas & dare to be different .

Cheers .

Like most, maybe even all, Barlow is in my team, but if you'd like to go unique then have a look at J Tutt (332,600) of the bulldogs. Remember his 4 goal ( first four kicks ) debut last year when best on ground. Will be trying to trim my side just a little after the NAB Cup to make hom M5. Goodluck and cheers.
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Speculator on January 19, 2012, 11:38:21 AM
Naitanui WILL be in my supercoach team (not DT though), I think Trengove will easily move into 100+ territory but unfortunately he does not fit my structure and there are other mids who will make the cut befor e im.
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Torress on January 19, 2012, 03:04:02 PM
van berlo for sure but won't have gonads to pick him.

matty bate is one i'm considering, apparently training with midfield group (yea yea that old chess nut!!!) but got an average of 54 with a (fanplanner) 10% discount 294k averaged 70+ in the past. atm i'm on him

jack grimes is another i'm toying with. i don't want to not have this guy when he brings it for a season

jarryn geary is also cheap and if he gets games and isn't being the sub will make money - only 213k defender

and one more i really wnt to pick but probably just won't is de boer, if he was dpp he would be in my forward line but alas.

Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: ubeaut on January 19, 2012, 10:03:52 PM
 Here's a few I'm considering -

Hurley - if the Bombers make the eight again or better still improve this guy is in the top 5 important players. An absolute gun who is capable of kicking bags every week and taking contested grabs.

Johncock - always flies under the radar but apart from last season (which makes his price tempting) is up there with the best scoring defenders. Not a great defender but that's where he plays so all he does is rebound.

Bock - Second highest scoring player after Ablett in first season at G.C. The go to man in their defense.

Mitch Clarke - Should get rucking points as Jamar's backup. Keen to impress at new club and will be their main target.
 
more to come...........
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: pavs nose on January 19, 2012, 10:28:59 PM
Reece Palmer is another I this category. Ave around 90 in his 1st year, then a knee reco, then mark Harvey hated him. 100 ave from him as a ft midfielder would not surprise me
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: theflyinghawk on January 19, 2012, 11:49:12 PM
dangerfield?

always going to be a better sc player and there are people considering him for dt because of his seemingly huge pre-season, might be a good unique forward.
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: AndrewY on January 21, 2012, 03:14:25 PM
Had Rhys Shaw all last year.
A great run home. A few too many tagging days mid season.
Still getting 'tude about him this year of course.
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Purple 77 on January 21, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: Didds70 on January 18, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
Gday All ,

Another day , more considerations , maybe new names come to light etc ..... ,

Long story short , am considering a joint effort with a mate , a 50/50 team in the one leauge . I choose 15 , he 15 to start off , and after heaps of fart arseing around we'll eventaully agree on something .

Had a situation this morning where I had noticed my offsider had inserted Brett Peake as a Mid 4 , my eyes glazed over and I went for the Panadol . Having tidied up that little mess with a few moves , ended up being able to scrape in Mr M Barlow into M4 .

Then got thinking , "well if not Barlow , who else ? "

Have done a fair ammount of research 2day & in this case , " if not Barlow " , the winner is ........

Scott Selwood , Allen Christensen or Ben Howlett in my books .

I'd be prepared to install Ben Howlett as my/our M4 . Locked . ( Alternative would be spend on another Mid Rookie )

True risk , absolute risk on maybe a go nowhere man , but I'll stick my neck out and see what happens .

If you were or are in a similar situation & throw off the life vest , sink or swim , who would you love to have a crack at just 'cos ?

From any corner of the field .

Keep the game unique fellas & dare to be different .

Cheers .

Barlow me thinks is the best option, Scott Selwood plays in a position not suited to SC, Christensen averaged 70 not including byes, a huge improvement in his game will see his average maybe 85, still not worth it IMO. Ben Howlett will probably keep up what he's been playing at. I really do admire that your being unique, really do. But Barlow is clearly the best option, really think you should stick with him
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: SAMCRO on January 22, 2012, 06:32:54 AM
Quote from: Didds70 on January 18, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
Christensen averaged 70 not including byes, a huge improvement in his game will see his average maybe 85, still not worth it IMO.

Didn't he average 86 when not used as the sub?
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Purple 77 on January 22, 2012, 10:44:46 AM
Quote from: SAMCRO on January 22, 2012, 06:32:54 AM
Quote from: Didds70 on January 18, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
Christensen averaged 70 not including byes, a huge improvement in his game will see his average maybe 85, still not worth it IMO.

Didn't he average 86 when not used as the sub?

That he did.......... sorry about that, got mixed up with another player. he is a good option........... MPP beats barlow, but i think barlow is able to score better and more consistently, and older body helps with that.
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Colliwobblers on January 23, 2012, 03:13:10 AM
how about sticking your neck out for dangerfield yet again.... i didnt get sucked in last season but im keen this season
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Bluesman on January 23, 2012, 05:06:07 PM
Jarrad Grant is another one for me. Can see him easily averaging 80+ with not too many taking goals away from him that i can see - they will be shared with a number of players..with Jarrad being fairly experienced and having perhaps the most potential!
;)
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Hippo on January 23, 2012, 05:45:08 PM
Didak!

full pre season and over injury
Training in the mids and has been quite prominent in training reports
cheap as flower

tick tick tick!
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: Didds70 on January 23, 2012, 08:02:04 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 21, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: Didds70 on January 18, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
Gday All ,

Another day , more considerations , maybe new names come to light etc ..... ,

Long story short , am considering a joint effort with a mate , a 50/50 team in the one leauge . I choose 15 , he 15 to start off , and after heaps of fart arseing around we'll eventaully agree on something .

Had a situation this morning where I had noticed my offsider had inserted Brett Peake as a Mid 4 , my eyes glazed over and I went for the Panadol . Having tidied up that little mess with a few moves , ended up being able to scrape in Mr M Barlow into M4 .

Then got thinking , "well if not Barlow , who else ? "

Have done a fair ammount of research 2day & in this case , " if not Barlow " , the winner is ........

Scott Selwood , Allen Christensen or Ben Howlett in my books .

I'd be prepared to install Ben Howlett as my/our M4 . Locked . ( Alternative would be spend on another Mid Rookie )

True risk , absolute risk on maybe a go nowhere man , but I'll stick my neck out and see what happens .

If you were or are in a similar situation & throw off the life vest , sink or swim , who would you love to have a crack at just 'cos ?

From any corner of the field .

Keep the game unique fellas & dare to be different .

Cheers .

Barlow me thinks is the best option, Scott Selwood plays in a position not suited to SC, Christensen averaged 70 not including byes, a huge improvement in his game will see his average maybe 85, still not worth it IMO. Ben Howlett will probably keep up what he's been playing at. I really do admire that your being unique, really do. But Barlow is clearly the best option, really think you should stick with him
Well have had a bit of a re-think & probably sanity will have to prevail , on the Howlett issue ( yes , I've lost my mojo on that one !! ) & S.Selwood included in that . Christensen I think comes out on top of the 3 , so can always install Barlow at M4 & look at Christensen at around F4 .
All great comments fellas , a good read right through . Nothing like a bit of food for thought .
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: pavs nose on January 23, 2012, 11:01:52 PM
Quote from: Bluesman on January 23, 2012, 05:06:07 PM
Jarrad Grant is another one for me. Can see him easily averaging 80+ with not too many taking goals away from him that i can see - they will be shared with a number of players..with Jarrad being fairly experienced and having perhaps the most potential!
;)

I agree on this one. my opponent had him in the 2010 gf and he killed me with a 100+. I will never forget it.

Has potential
Title: Re: Stick ur Neck Out
Post by: dmac07 on January 23, 2012, 11:10:42 PM
Gray, Didak, Winderlich, Morabito, Mitch Morton, all look interesting... none in my side though! lol