I know just about everyone will have Buddy as their lock in the Fwds and we all know how great a player Buddy is - but is he THAT good?? The $600k price tag (for me) is his ceiling. He is the type of player who COULD very well drop $100-150k with a few poor games great pick up! All layers can have poor games but for that price and the fact he wil always be double/triple teamed, he'll certainly need to continue kicking many goals to simply MAINTAIN his price. Needless to say they will have Roughy back and Jack Gunston to assist from last year, along with Clarko's ambition to not rely on Buddy as much i think he is on the record as saying late last year. For me, i'm not to sure he is worth it. Thoughts??
I will have one of Stevie J or Buddy. Im not sure who yet. The scary thing about not picking Buddy is when he smashes out a 130 140. Not having him when he does that means you are most probably going to loose your league match that week.
I look at it this way - you will most likely want him in your side by the end of the year.... so do I pay for him now and not waste a trade OR hope that his price drops enough to warrant using a trade to bring him in.
I personally choose to get him in at the start (set and forget)
Can understand your arguments and was the having thoughts as well. With the Hawks early hard draw (Pies and Geelong in Round 1 & 2) he may be worth hanging off and target as an upgrade.
For me Buddy's worth it cash - just a matter of where/who you sacrifice to fit him in - currently i cant fit him in but will be doing my utmost to get him in at the start.
Short answer.
Is he worth it?
Yes
Is he a lock?
No
Years gone by he was the first forward picked. But now with the value surrounding Martin, Zaha, Robinson, Beams, Fyfe, Sidey and co, he's not locked as everyone's said. I think he is capable of averaging 110+ but with the risk of suspensions and those damn -3 from Free Againsts he's only hurting himself...
For me, if I don't roll with him from the start he'll be my first upgrade in the forward line.
he is worth the price u ask me as Murphys law will no doubt bite you in the ass if you dont have him from Rd 1
Quote from: jballstars on January 09, 2012, 06:35:52 PM
he is worth the price u ask me as Murphys law will no doubt bite you in the ass if you dont have him from Rd 1
+1
i always avoid him for some reason, then i always regret not having him, then i find it very difficult to get him into the forward line later, as upgrading my midfielders takes priority. so im getting him from the start this year. set and forget.
At his price he is one to trade in later IMO.
Right now I am also looking at Buddy for the upgrade, spending the money elsewhere
He is worth it no doubt, but no you dont have to have him, add the cats and Pies in the first 2 games and you prob can do without him until your first upgrade in say rd7-8.
i didn't have him last yr in either comps until upgrade time and still managed to make top 1% in both. granted not top 1000 but at the end of the day he wouldn't have got me in there anyway with the pt dif (dam you Higgins and Rioli).
I have him in but not sure not sure, surely Goodes could score the same in the upgrade time of 7 weeks with GWS, Port, North, Crows and Tigers.
yeah they are priced much the same but imo you will get Franklin cheaper than Goodes..... its just a example
well last year I waited and traded franklin for rd 22 and out again at the start of Rd 24 as he didnt play...so he didnt do much for me then! I finished #349 so I didnt really need him for the season and only traded him in at the end as a defensive strategy in my league match.
having said that he is currently in my team for 2012! not many premiums out there.
Quote from: damnfunky on January 09, 2012, 09:05:09 PM
well last year I waited and traded franklin for rd 22 and out again at the start of Rd 24 as he didnt play...so he didnt do much for me then! I finished #349 so I didnt really need him for the season and only traded him in at the end as a defensive strategy in my league match.
having said that he is currently in my team for 2012! not many premiums out there.
BANG thats my pt exactly
He is definately worth it, that said he isnt a must. Especially with the likes of Brown and Roo so cheaply priced if you were to pick both of them maybe you dont want another big fwd although Buddy is of a different breed of course.
Quote from: valkorum on January 09, 2012, 05:01:30 PM
I look at it this way - you will most likely want him in your side by the end of the year.... so do I pay for him now and not waste a trade OR hope that his price drops enough to warrant using a trade to bring him in.
I personally choose to get him in at the start (set and forget)
Agree - but then the same theory could be used for Pendles and Ablett, (or possibly Cox for that matter). At some point you need to draw a line as you can't have them all, and personally, i prefer the CONSISTENCY and knowldge i have with Pendles and Ablett. (...just playing the devil's advocate! :P)
Is Buddy really worth having in ? Absolutely he is. But for $600,600 definitely not ! For just another $4000 you could have Joel Selwood running around or for $6000 Andrew Swallow. Both of whom will at least score as well and definitely be much more reliable. Having said that Sabres have him in, but only coz Fyfe looks as though he'll be a late starter, would prefer to trade Buddy in for a lesser price. Like a lot of teams the jury is still out on this one. Cheers.
its funny, if u asked most people who would they rather have out of buddy or ROK last year, i would say it would have been a landslide yes to buddy. the fact is ROK outscored buddy by 100 points last year,,, franklin doesnt play every game whether its suspended, injury or just gets rested.. i can see hawks resting him against gws this year... in saying that i will probably still get him,but later in the year
buddy is starting in my side. hawks might make a statement first 2 rounds imo
i swear i;ve heard that buddy does his best fantasy scoring vs collingwood somewhere as well.
end of the day if its THE BUDDY SHOW on television he can smash high BE's - he is diffiult to trade in!!
locked for mine.
Buddy plays Collingwood in round 1, followed by Geelong in round 2. Last year he struggled against the likes of Tarrant/Reid and Taylor/Lonergan/Scarlett. Is he a definite starter, or do you waut till rounds 3/4 for an early price drop??
How could you afford to trade him in so soon? You'd either have to trade out a fellow premium or have a big wad of cash to do so. You either start with him or make him a trade target when you can afford him, when your cash cows have fattened. This takes 7-10 weeks. This means you miss his scores during this time but benefit from an inevitable price drop. Your choice. Personally I'd start with him. You know what he's like, he could go mental.
Quote from: itchytradefinger on February 05, 2012, 12:15:22 AM
How could you afford to trade him in so soon? You'd either have to trade out a fellow premium or have a big wad of cash to do so. You either start with him or make him a trade target when you can afford him, when your cash cows have fattened. This takes 7-10 weeks. This means you miss his scores during this time but benefit from an inevitable price drop. Your choice. Personally I'd start with him. You know what he's like, he could go mental.
the problem being that that mental could go either way 150 points or 5 weeks off
Quote from: itchytradefinger on February 05, 2012, 12:15:22 AM
How could you afford to trade him in so soon? You'd either have to trade out a fellow premium or have a big wad of cash to do so. You either start with him or make him a trade target when you can afford him, when your cash cows have fattened. This takes 7-10 weeks. This means you miss his scores during this time but benefit from an inevitable price drop. Your choice. Personally I'd start with him. You know what he's like, he could go mental.
exactly, there is little point in tradung buddy in after rnd 3or4, midseason upgrade after the bye is where he is tracking for me.
Quote from: Torress on January 31, 2012, 10:24:38 PM
i swear i;ve heard that buddy does his best fantasy scoring vs collingwood somewhere as well.
Yeah has usually done well against Collingwood in the past. 4 of his last 5 matches (not including finals) he has scored hundreds for an average of 127.8, overall his average against Collingwood for all matches is 102 from 8 matches ;)
Lock for me, as not only does he fit my bye plans but he is worth the rollercoaster to get in early.
I can then sit back and look at the other fwd prems on how their form goes and upgrade to them. Pav, Fyfe, Goodes, Stevie J, Chappy,.....and yes (shudder) the two Roos.