I've been reading Stephen King's latest novel: 11.22.63.
Synopsis is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11/22/63#Synopsis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11/22/63#Synopsis)
If you can't be bothered reading it. In essence, a bloke finds a portal that take's him back in time....Too cut things short he wants to prevent the Kennedy Assassination.
So my question is this:
If you could go back in time. What part of history would you try to change? Maybe you go back to tell Hitler's would be assassin details that will help in his endeavor and ultimately his success. But then their is the whole case of the "Butterfly Effect." That is explored in the 11.22.63
So yeah, what point in time would you change given the chance. Small or big. They all having lasting consequences. For good or for worse.
All the times Collingwood reached the Grand Final and did win! ha
Quote from: Miss Pies on January 06, 2012, 07:48:34 PM
All the times Collingwood reached the Grand Final and did win! ha
How would you change that out of curiosity?
I'd prevent Justin Bieber's conception...
Ultimate c*** block.
Quote from: hawk_88 on January 06, 2012, 10:39:53 PM
Quote from: Miss Pies on January 06, 2012, 07:48:34 PM
All the times Collingwood reached the Grand Final and did win! ha
How would you change that out of curiosity?
Snipers.
I don't think I would change anything. It'd be great if I'd never injured my knee, but I wouldn't want to try to change that, as you said, since the potential repercussions could be really bad.
Just take it, life's like that.
Yeah I was being a dag lol
Probably destroy all cars :P I think it would be cool if we all rode horses ;D
Quote from: Master Q on January 07, 2012, 11:50:16 AM
Probably destroy all cars :P I think it would be cool if we all rode horses ;D
So technically. Bump off Henry Ford? Vehicles would still be a part of society. But maybe no Fords. Perhaps Geelong never win the Grand Final and Ablett becomes a drunk. You never know? :P
I cant go past Hitler, but there are so many moments its hard to choose which one you would change. Kenedy is another, Martin Luther King another, so many. I would take a Sports Almanac with me to.
Quote from: Windigo on January 07, 2012, 01:35:01 PM
Quote from: Master Q on January 07, 2012, 11:50:16 AM
Probably destroy all cars :P I think it would be cool if we all rode horses ;D
So technically. Bump off Henry Ford? Vehicles would still be a part of society. But maybe no Fords. Perhaps Geelong never win the Grand Final and Ablett becomes a drunk. You never know? :P
May have meant that he never left Hawthorn.
I guess there are a ton of things in the world i would change but at the end of the day yu can't change anything really because while the world had humans in it humana will be humans and all the terrible thing we would change will just happen again as they always have.
Not to be negative :) on the flip side there are a lot of wonderful things going on in the world also, like AFL and well lots of things
guess you take the good with the bad
I would stop 9/11. Then again, I would say more deaths would have occurred because after 9/11 airport security was ramped up.
Anyone heard of the illuminati?
All these things mentioned fall under that bracket.
I am willing to bet that if you think the Illuminati are evil you have no idea of their origins.
I wouldn't change anything. Change 1 thing and everything changes. Take the good with the bad and let the world run it's course naturally...
I wouldn't allow Hitler, my Great Grandparents had to live through that when they were young, being in Germany, i wouldn't even bring up Germany to them, they were still petrified a few years back.
(they weren't jewish, but imagine living in Berlin with Hitler around)
Or maybe, i would make that british guy take that shot in WW1!
But i agree with Boomz also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toF5dBsOE4Q
Quote from: Maca24 on January 08, 2012, 06:35:22 PM
Anyone heard of the illuminati?
All these things mentioned fall under that bracket.
Yes indeed have Maca
Quote from: Miss Pies on January 08, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on January 08, 2012, 06:35:22 PM
Anyone heard of the illuminati?
All these things mentioned fall under that bracket.
Yes indeed have Maca
Your thoughts on it? I am VERY fascinated by it :)
Quote from: Boomz link=topic=45761.msg 615964#msg 615964 date=1326008267
I wouldn't change anything. Change 1 thing and everything changes. Take the good with the bad and let the world run it's course naturally...
The Butterfly Effect is a worry, you could always make things worse. As said already there is a lot of good in the world and i prefer to dwell on that while being conscious of the bad. There's a good saying 'Evil only wins when Good men do nothing"
If i could change one thing without risking to much of a Butterfly Effect it would be "apathy the world over" unless oil or some other asset is available we take to long to react to Famine, Conflict, Genocide, Disaster. If i could make us all be a little more caring and understanding of our differences and be more excepting that's what i would do.
Quote from: Maca24 on January 08, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
Quote from: Miss Pies on January 08, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on January 08, 2012, 06:35:22 PM
Anyone heard of the illuminati?
All these things mentioned fall under that bracket.
Yes indeed have Maca
Your thoughts on it? I am VERY fascinated by it :)
Do you think it still exists? Out of interest...
For a second I thought this was an uncyclopedia page...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)
Funniest thing I've ever read ;D
Quote from: Grazz on January 07, 2012, 02:51:10 PM
I cant go past Hitler, but there are so many moments its hard to choose which one you would change. Kenedy is another, Martin Luther King another, so many. I would take a Sports Almanac with me to.
Without Hitler and Nazi Germany many medicines would not have been invented. True fact.
Not saying the other stuff was good though - I've been to Auschwitz and Birkenau.
Quote from: Master Q on January 08, 2012, 07:39:00 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on January 08, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
Quote from: Miss Pies on January 08, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on January 08, 2012, 06:35:22 PM
Anyone heard of the illuminati?
All these things mentioned fall under that bracket.
Yes indeed have Maca
Your thoughts on it? I am VERY fascinated by it :)
Do you think it still exists? Out of interest...
yes I do :)
Not as prominent, but I still think it is there.
Quote from: Master Q on January 08, 2012, 07:48:13 PM
For a second I thought this was an uncyclopedia page...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)
Funniest thing I've ever read ;D
There is no doubt that the world is run by a few... whether they be wealthy families, corporations, the Bilderberg group or whoever, but there is a path they are taking us, slowly but surely. You don't drop the frog in boiling water, you drop it in cold and turn up the heat. With all the smokes and mirrors, one has to be sceptical but as to how much energy you can devote to such a blind campaign, that's another thing all together.
I know the one thing I would change but I fear the backlash that I may get from certain people. :-X
I promise I won't be mean. :P
Play Nice.
I am. ;)
Quote from: Wes Mantooth on January 09, 2012, 12:36:12 AM
Quote from: Grazz on January 07, 2012, 02:51:10 PM
I cant go past Hitler, but there are so many moments its hard to choose which one you would change. Kenedy is another, Martin Luther King another, so many. I would take a Sports Almanac with me to.
Without Hitler and Nazi Germany many medicines would not have been invented. True fact.
Not saying the other stuff was good though - I've been to Auschwitz and Birkenau.
True. But the German Science and Medicine would of achieved this regardless , Hitler did little to advance the process except for supplying plenty of healthy men women and children. Dozens of German Scientists were snapped up by the USA when the war ended including all their Rocket Engineers, they were ahead of their time no doubt about it.
See how complicated things are if you think about what would happen of you changed the worlds history? Things happen for a reason.
In 11.22.63.
Time doesn't want to be changed and when the character tries to save a family from being murdered by their father with a sledgehammer. Time is against him and he suffers migraines and convulsions and his car won't start. Also, a trucker runs a red light and he if he didn't stop the truck would have slammed into him.
Anyway, he saves the children, But one still dies. He goes back to the present day and his friend who was the only survivor of the murders in the first place is now dead. Killed in Vietnam. Effectively, he makes things 'worse.'
Very interesting.
You could go back and tear up at cricket and footy and that in its early days. I really doubt bowlers from the early 1900s bowled 150km/h. They all had long beards, high top dress shoes and bowled in what would be considered dress pants these days.
Imagine going back and giving the don one of the huge bats from today to use instead of the skinny planks. He could have averaged 1000
Yes i would ---- I would go back to july 15th, and redo that stupid HEATH SHAW trade i made on thursday ( yes i know don't trade till friday 5 minutes before lockout ) but was going away friday morning ( thats my excuse and im sticking to it ) just so i stop having nightmares about it
Quote from: Grazz on January 09, 2012, 03:07:08 AM
Quote from: Wes Mantooth on January 09, 2012, 12:36:12 AM
Quote from: Grazz on January 07, 2012, 02:51:10 PM
I cant go past Hitler, but there are so many moments its hard to choose which one you would change. Kenedy is another, Martin Luther King another, so many. I would take a Sports Almanac with me to.
Without Hitler and Nazi Germany many medicines would not have been invented. True fact.
Not saying the other stuff was good though - I've been to Auschwitz and Birkenau.
True. But the German Science and Medicine would of achieved this regardless , Hitler did little to advance the process except for supplying plenty of healthy men women and children. Dozens of German Scientists were snapped up by the USA when the war ended including all their Rocket Engineers, they were ahead of their time no doubt about it.
Exactly! Test subjects and lots of them... exactly what they needed.
Quote from: The FARK Academy on January 10, 2012, 03:42:14 PM
You could go back and tear up at cricket and footy and that in its early days. I really doubt bowlers from the early 1900s bowled 150km/h. They all had long beards, high top dress shoes and bowled in what would be considered dress pants these days.
Imagine going back and giving the don one of the huge bats from today to use instead of the skinny planks. He could have averaged 1000
That' would be awesome. I read a story that Don rolled a few over at game and his injured his ankle ruling him out of the test match/series. I dunno the exact details.
But some disgruntled fans broke into the ground and poured oil on the pitch. So the test was canceled. ;D
Quote from: Windigo on January 10, 2012, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: The FARK Academy on January 10, 2012, 03:42:14 PM
You could go back and tear up at cricket and footy and that in its early days. I really doubt bowlers from the early 1900s bowled 150km/h. They all had long beards, high top dress shoes and bowled in what would be considered dress pants these days.
Imagine going back and giving the don one of the huge bats from today to use instead of the skinny planks. He could have averaged 1000
That' would be awesome. I read a story that Don rolled a few over at game and his injured his ankle ruling him out of the test match/series. I dunno the exact details.
But some disgruntled fans broke into the ground and poured oil on the pitch. So the test was canceled. ;D
Now, I'd love to go back to the early days of the VFL and tear it up.
Quote from: c4v3m4n on January 10, 2012, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: Windigo on January 10, 2012, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: The FARK Academy on January 10, 2012, 03:42:14 PM
You could go back and tear up at cricket and footy and that in its early days. I really doubt bowlers from the early 1900s bowled 150km/h. They all had long beards, high top dress shoes and bowled in what would be considered dress pants these days.
Imagine going back and giving the don one of the huge bats from today to use instead of the skinny planks. He could have averaged 1000
That' would be awesome. I read a story that Don rolled a few over at game and his injured his ankle ruling him out of the test match/series. I dunno the exact details.
But some disgruntled fans broke into the ground and poured oil on the pitch. So the test was canceled. ;D
Now, I'd love to go back to the early days of the VFL and tear it up.
You can do that now...
When you watch original footage from early afl games it just looks like a whole lot of men standing on the field chatting. Wouldnt be suprised if half of the had beers in their hands while playing.
How fast do people think the bowler of the 1930s actually bowled. I reckon the fastest would have been Harold Larwood at about 120s. They didn't have the fitness or strength training programs that players go through today and they would have trained shower all where the current players train over half the year. But then you have uncovered wickets. How much have wickes developed in past 20 years. Pitches from 1930s wouldn't even live up to a club turf training nets pitch
Quote from: The FARK Academy on January 11, 2012, 01:57:33 PM
When you watch original footage from early afl games it just looks like a whole lot of men standing on the field chatting. Wouldnt be suprised if half of the had beers in their hands while playing.
How fast do people think the bowler of the 1930s actually bowled. I reckon the fastest would have been Harold Larwood at about 120s. They didn't have the fitness or strength training programs that players go through today and they would have trained shower all where the current players train over half the year. But then you have uncovered wickets. How much have wickes developed in past 20 years. Pitches from 1930s wouldn't even live up to a club turf training nets pitch
Uncovered pitches totally negate the increase of speed of the bowlers today.