here's one for ya guys and you all thought 13 was the cursed number
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126344/default.aspx
seems like quite a trend, even in DT sense, something I will look further into when the draft rolls around and then DT starts up
i had Reece Conca this year and think I picked up Gary Rohan at some stage last year aswell
also the fact that this draft pcik is owned by Port I may look to avoid it
Anyone think it might be Dom Tyson???
Chris Yarran looks like bucking the trend! Interesting read :)
I'd be confident of both Yarran and Rohan to make 200 games in their respective careers
They will both take a bit of time DT wise as well
bit of a fluff piece me thinks ...
i think it's just the reality that it's not a top3 pick, so at pick 6 you get the player with the best talent available but probably isn't cream of the cream, top tier ... probably has a few issues that a club will take a gamble on as the reason they weren't taken that high ... or you just play it safe and get a 'meat and potatoes' player ...
no1 busts are obviously more publicised/well known ...
no.1s havent really busted in forever though.
like, of the latest no.1s, watts, kreuz, scully and swallow are the only ones that haven't really fired.
which makes since, since those are the last 3 picks, Watts is a KPP while scully/kreuz have been injury affected.
like, Gibbs, Murphy, Lids, cooney, goddard, hodge, Nriewoldt, even Fraser,
I don't really see how you could class any of those as 'bust' ???
Kreuzer, Scully and Swallow are all superstars in the making IMO Zip, and I think Watts will be a very good player (not what they were hoping for)
Goddard and Deledio took a while.
Players take time!
Regardless of what sport
All the No.1 "busts" of the last ten years aren't really busts at all, they just need time
Hence why I think Swallow and Kreuzer will be great.
Not sure about GWS so I couldn't be sure that Scully has a huge future :P
Yarran is deff an exception, even Sampi looked the goods at stages
but DT wise as a pickup, we could maybe look elsewhere then the number 6
lets hope it changes this year
Ive wondered a few times what mitch thorpe is up to nowadays
I reckon Lids was great from day 1. Im not a Tiger fan but put him in a team that has been in the top 8 a fair bit and he would be mentioned in the same sentence as Ablett, Franklin, Judd, Pendles etc in my opinion. Only a few years ago he was all they had, now theres a bit more of a contribution from others such as push up, cotchin, Jroo, Nahas, Martin etc. Maybe because he is in the backline there isnt as much hype? He carried that team in the Wallace days at such a young age and copping a heavy tag.
He is a very consistant player.
I think the fact its going to port is a reason to pick whoever it up, i would say its probably the easiest team to break into. GWS and GC will be hard with all the rookie talent, whoever port pick up i would be surprised if they don't play at least half the season.
I will be looking at all the rookies picked not from GWS or Gc with teams first pick especially from the bottom 9 teams.
Freo buck the trend here
1997 - James Walker (Fremantle, 1998-2007, 151 games, 16 goals)
He also won 2 x grand finals...... sprints
that's because freo are awesome ;D
Quote from: Holzman on November 22, 2011, 06:22:02 PM
I think the fact its going to port is a reason to pick whoever it up, i would say its probably the easiest team to break into. GWS and GC will be hard with all the rookie talent, whoever port pick up i would be surprised if they don't play at least half the season.
+1
Quote from: valkorum on November 22, 2011, 06:22:41 PM
Freo buck the trend here
1997 - James Walker (Fremantle, 1998-2007, 151 games, 16 goals)
He also won 2 x grand finals...... sprints
your exception is James Walker...wow ???
conca will be a star, will have a good year this year too
was thrown into the middle to play an inside role after no pre-season and then burnt out halfway through, surely couldnt have been expected to have a great year dt wise!
Quote from: browny_wce on November 22, 2011, 07:45:04 PM
Quote from: valkorum on November 22, 2011, 06:22:41 PM
Freo buck the trend here
1997 - James Walker (Fremantle, 1998-2007, 151 games, 16 goals)
He also won 2 x grand finals...... sprints
your exception is James Walker...wow ???
Hahaha fair call.
Quote from: bowyanger on November 22, 2011, 06:21:02 PM
Ive wondered a few times what mitch thorpe is up to nowadays
I reckon Lids was great from day 1. Im not a Tiger fan but put him in a team that has been in the top 8 a fair bit and he would be mentioned in the same sentence as Ablett, Franklin, Judd, Pendles etc in my opinion. Only a few years ago he was all they had, now theres a bit more of a contribution from others such as push up, cotchin, Jroo, Nahas, Martin etc. Maybe because he is in the backline there isnt as much hype? He carried that team in the Wallace days at such a young age and copping a heavy tag.
He is a very consistant player.
Mitch Thorpe is now player/coach at South Launceston. lol
Conca, Rohan and Yarran will play 150-200 i reckon.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 22, 2011, 04:18:15 PM
like, of the latest no.1s, watts, kreuz, scully and swallow are the only ones that haven't really fired.
Really? I though Swallow fired pretty damn well for his first season. Definitely outdid what I thought he would in a new team.
well yeah, he did well, but he's not exactly at the level of like swan, ablett judd, pendles etc.
but he's also not even 19 from memory, so fair enough :P
Quote from: Ziplock on November 24, 2011, 03:03:01 PM
well yeah, he did well, but he's not exactly at the level of like swan, ablett judd, pendles etc.
I hope you don't honestly expect any draft pick to be at the level of Swan, Ablett, Judd, Pendles straight away. In fact, you shouldn't expect any player to ever get to that level. It'd be nice, but the likelihood of a player becoming one of the very, very best isn't very high. You just want them to be great.
With the exception of Judd from that list, none of the others had brilliant first years.
Pendles had injury, Ablett took years to turn into the superstar he is, and Swan even longer.
ok, everyone just ignore the second part of my comment where I mention how young he is, so it's fair enough..
Haha zip :P
Quote from: ossie85 on November 24, 2011, 03:25:42 PM
Pendles had injury, Ablett took years to turn into the superstar he is, and Swan even longer.
Ablett was a small forward at first. It wasn't until his move to the midfield where he became a Superstar 8). Sometimes all players need is a switch up in positions and they'll become alot better.
Quote from: browny_wce on November 22, 2011, 03:49:25 PM
also the fact that this draft pcik is owned by Port I may look to avoid it
Anyone think it might be Dom Tyson???
I really doubt Tyson will drop that low. Hopefully GWS play nice and allow Wingard to drop to Port. I'd assume he's their #1 target as he would like to stay in South Australia from what I hear. And he'll add to their midfield = Certainty for my team if so.
On the #6 theory, I think Williams is actually not that bad of a defender at the Dogs, just underrated.
Well, it's Chad Wingard. :)
Don't need your #6 to play 150 games... Just the first 10 of the season is good enough for me :-X
yeah I doubt wingard will play 150.
that's mostly because I doubt port will last another 150 games though :P