Hey there,
thought i'd get in on the act of forwarding my first up team!
A word of warning... it's VERY midfield heavy with my thinking being going for a very much proven premium & rookie structure. Obviously i would tinker the rookies the first few weeks to try and grab the best bargain rookies that are playing. Also hoping to grab Lake as a premium for basically nothing and would only choose Porpoise if he's bargain basement...
cheers :)
TEAM NAME: Incredibles
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, B. Lake, M. Buntine, S. Docherty, T. Bugg (B. Smedts, W. Sierakowski)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, C. Bartlett (S. Clifton, D. Shiel)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, N. Naitanui (R. Stanley, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, M. Pavlich, P. Ryder, J. Lamb, B. Newton, J. Porplyzia (Z. Skinner, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $11,400
Thats probably the way my team is heading at the moment structure wise. Though I think there is more value in the forward line then the back line.
Which is exactly what I would have done in 2011 if I had to start again.
Saying that, I haven't really looked into things in detail with the multi-round byes and strength of schedule.
nice team bluesman ,think i,ll be looking more into my mids for next season, the multi-round byes will cause a few head aches
You mids will score a 1000 a week haha 8), the rucks I'm worried about, NicNat isnt a proven SC performer- yet. Lake, I have my doubts on, keep checking him heavily throughout the pre-season and the NAB cup. Your forward line is a bit of a mess (sorry). Only three premiums (not counting Ryder) with two of them really ageing (Goodes, Pav). I dont know about Lamb and Newton (never heard of them) and your bench is pretty scarce. What I would do is to reduced your midfield power and increase the amount of premiums in both your back and forwards.
Quote from: Voldemort on October 30, 2011, 11:15:57 AM
You mids will score a 1000 a week haha 8), the rucks I'm worried about, NicNat isnt a proven SC performer- yet. Lake, I have my doubts on, keep checking him heavily throughout the pre-season and the NAB cup. Your forward line is a bit of a mess (sorry). Only three premiums (not counting Ryder) with two of them really ageing (Goodes, Pav). The dont know about Lamb and Newton (never heard of them) and your bench is pretty scarce. What I would do is to reduced your midfield power and increase the amount of premiums in both your back and forwards.
Thanks for the feedback V. agree with many of your thoughts that also went through my head. Supposedly 'better' rucks and forwards than those i have i have issues with - manly to do with their injury history. Despite Pav and Goodes being older i believe Pav moving back to the fwd line won't affect his scoring at much and Goodes seemed to be in the form (& fitness) of his life and will surely roam where he chooses next year (hopefully around CHF and p/t rucking) due to Sydney's potential improvement in their forward line. Ultimately my thinking is to grab the ultra premiums (even if they are a bit more costly) to later save on trades- as by downgrading my mids i will only look to gettng the ones i've now chosen! Also the "ultra" Fwd and Back premiums at season's end are never as much to pick up throughout the year (incl. Buddy for example) so that is why i have gone light in those lines. As i said, the key will be in selecting the correct bargain rookies for this to work...time will tell!
you have 4 super premiums in you mids, why not change that? Get better balance of your team, anyway good luck ;)
i agree with your thinking bluesman! if you're going to pay the big $$ for 'premium' players then you want the guys that can go huge and consistently score well. what good is paying 450-500k for a player who throws in a 60 or 70 every so often and then drops 100k because of it. you are better off paying 550k for the pendlebury's and murphy's like i did last year...
last year i started with swan, selwood, pendlebury, murphy and boyd and that worked a treat, had easily my best year by going with this strategy. With the right captain choice on good weeks my midfield would deliver 1000+
Quote from: LiveTheDream on October 31, 2011, 11:09:01 AM
i agree with your thinking bluesman! if you're going to pay the big $$ for 'premium' players then you want the guys that can go huge and consistently score well. what good is paying 450-500k for a player who throws in a 60 or 70 every so often and then drops 100k because of it. you are better off paying 550k for the pendlebury's and murphy's like i did last year...
last year i started with swan, selwood, pendlebury, murphy and boyd and that worked a treat, had easily my best year by going with this strategy. With the right captain choice on good weeks my midfield would deliver 1000+
all the top team have balance, you cant stack up in the midfield and neglect the backline, that's what one of my mates did and paid a heavy price
Quote from: Voldemort on October 31, 2011, 07:51:44 PM
all the top team have balance, you cant stack up in the midfield and neglect the backline, that's what one of my mates did and paid a heavy price
Your mate must have screwed up the rookie/mid priced selections. In 2011, the backs had the most value. Lower, Stanley, Heppel, Duigan, Martin, Suckling, etc... were all given back classifications and consistent performers.
I would argue having less premiums in the back was optimal.
Quote from: Voldemort on October 31, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
you have 4 super premiums in you mids, why not change that? Get better balance of your team, anyway good luck ;)
Know what you're saying. As much it kills me to leave Pendles out, you're probably right. Also I know i'l be given a hard time with the fwd line but i really find this sooooooo hard to pick each year with not many 'locks'. Besides i see this is where many more mid options are looking to be..... How does this balance stack up then?? Thanks for your comments everyone, cheers :)
TEAM NAME: Incredibles Mark 2!!
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, B. Lake, S.Morris?, B. Smedts (T.Mohr, W. Sierakowski)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, M. Barlow, C. Bartlett (S. Clifton, A. Treloar)
RUC: T. Goldstein, M. Leuenberger (R. Stanley, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, P. Ryder, J. Grant, J. Lisle, J. Lamb, B. Newton (Z. Skinner, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $14,100
Rookie fwds might include Zorko/Saad
lol....just noticed i'm not going to score much Round 12 with 4 of my mids out - or Round 11 with both Berger and Goldy out!!! :-[
What are people's thoughts anyway as to whether this works itself out come year's end?? ie. Does the few hundred points I lose those couple of weeks be made up gradually the other non-bye weeks... being maybe a bit stronger than some others (which is a HUGE assumption to make i know!! lol..)
I don't know. We're going to have to wait and see what ideas the SC/DT guys come up with for the byes. If they make like 4 benchies, then it's doable, if they make it so we get unlimited and not counted trades only for those players with a bye, that get reverted after the bye, then it's easily doable. I think, out of all the proposed solutions I've seen, the revertible trades is the best. 6 teams at once is too much for strategy, I say just give a nice big- flower you, to the afl fixture and pretend the byes don't exist.
Quote from: Bluesman on November 01, 2011, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: Voldemort on October 31, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
you have 4 super premiums in you mids, why not change that? Get better balance of your team, anyway good luck ;)
Know what you're saying. As much it kills me to leave Pendles out, you're probably right. Also I know i'l be given a hard time with the fwd line but i really find this sooooooo hard to pick each year with not many 'locks'. Besides i see this is where many more mid options are looking to be..... How does this balance stack up then?? Thanks for your comments everyone, cheers :)
TEAM NAME: Incredibles Mark 2!!
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, B. Lake, S.Morris?, B. Smedts (T.Mohr, W. Sierakowski)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, M. Barlow, C. Bartlett (S. Clifton, A. Treloar)
RUC: T. Goldstein, M. Leuenberger (R. Stanley, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, P. Ryder, J. Grant, J. Lisle, J. Lamb, B. Newton (Z. Skinner, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $14,100
Rookie fwds might include Zorko/Saad
I can count 2 true premiums in the fwd line (excluding Ryder), you need more :-X
Quote from: Voldemort on November 01, 2011, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Bluesman on November 01, 2011, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: Voldemort on October 31, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
you have 4 super premiums in you mids, why not change that? Get better balance of your team, anyway good luck ;)
Know what you're saying. As much it kills me to leave Pendles out, you're probably right. Also I know i'l be given a hard time with the fwd line but i really find this sooooooo hard to pick each year with not many 'locks'. Besides i see this is where many more mid options are looking to be..... How does this balance stack up then?? Thanks for your comments everyone, cheers :)
TEAM NAME: Incredibles Mark 2!!
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, B. Lake, S.Morris?, B. Smedts (T.Mohr, W. Sierakowski)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, M. Barlow, C. Bartlett (S. Clifton, A. Treloar)
RUC: T. Goldstein, M. Leuenberger (R. Stanley, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, P. Ryder, J. Grant, J. Lisle, J. Lamb, B. Newton (Z. Skinner, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $14,100
Rookie fwds might include Zorko/Saad
I can count 2 true premiums in the fwd line (excluding Ryder), you need more :-X
Still a very much Premium/rookie structure. Have foregone the MPP R/F and gone for West. Feel that it's not obvious at this stage who the best ruck will be so why spend it now! Have fun pulling apart.... :P
TEAM NAME: Incredibles
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, S. Fisher, S. Docherty, T. Mohr (S. Morris, W. Sierakowski)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, T. Mitchell, C. Bartlett (C. Smith, A. Treloar)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, T. West (J. Giles, J. Redden)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, N. Fyfe, T. Cloke, J. Lamb, M. Panos, A. Saad (T. Walsh, D. Zorko)
CASH LEFT: $127,200
mate, don't let them scare you off naitanui. He will become the best ruckman in the league at some point, maybe even next year. Stick with him. I am. He played injured in 2011 and now he has had the surgery he will be even stronger. He is a good, slightly unique ruck selection this year which could pay massive dividends. The guy is an absolute jet. What other ruckman can break away from centre clearances like him. None. None now and none ever before. Select him.
Quote from: Speculator on November 09, 2011, 01:09:44 PM
mate, don't let them scare you off naitanui. He will become the best ruckman in the league at some point, maybe even next year. Stick with him. I am. He played injured in 2011 and now he has had the surgery he will be even stronger. He is a good, slightly unique ruck selection this year which could pay massive dividends. The guy is an absolute jet. What other ruckman can break away from centre clearances like him. None. None now and none ever before. Select him.
Haha, thanks Spec! i felt the same at the start also. Am having 2nd thoughts though as the past couple of years i've had to settle with your 2nd tier ruckmen - and don't wish to again if he's 20pg behind the leading rucks. Totally agree he will improve his SC scoring at some stage but i do put Leuenberger in front of him atm with less competition and i guess i'm not willing to take a punt on him at this stage. If Cox wasn't around, I'd be on him in a flash! lol..
i'll keep an eye on things though.... thanks again :)
Quote from: Bluesman on November 09, 2011, 07:39:40 AM
Quote from: Voldemort on November 01, 2011, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Bluesman on November 01, 2011, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: Voldemort on October 31, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
you have 4 super premiums in you mids, why not change that? Get better balance of your team, anyway good luck ;)
Know what you're saying. As much it kills me to leave Pendles out, you're probably right. Also I know i'l be given a hard time with the fwd line but i really find this sooooooo hard to pick each year with not many 'locks'. Besides i see this is where many more mid options are looking to be..... How does this balance stack up then?? Thanks for your comments everyone, cheers :)
TEAM NAME: Incredibles Mark 2!!
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, B. Lake, S.Morris?, B. Smedts (T.Mohr, W. Sierakowski)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, M. Barlow, C. Bartlett (S. Clifton, A. Treloar)
RUC: T. Goldstein, M. Leuenberger (R. Stanley, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, P. Ryder, J. Grant, J. Lisle, J. Lamb, B. Newton (Z. Skinner, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $14,100
Rookie fwds might include Zorko/Saad
I can count 2 true premiums in the fwd line (excluding Ryder), you need more :-X
Still a very much Premium/rookie structure. Have foregone the MPP R/F and gone for West. Feel that it's not obvious at this stage who the best ruck will be so why spend it now! Have fun pulling apart.... :P
TEAM NAME: Incredibles
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, S. Fisher, S. Docherty, T. Mohr (S. Morris, W. Sierakowski)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, T. Mitchell, C. Bartlett (C. Smith, A. Treloar)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, T. West (J. Giles, J. Redden)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, N. Fyfe, T. Cloke, J. Lamb, M. Panos, A. Saad (T. Walsh, D. Zorko)
CASH LEFT: $127,200
This is your latest team so I'll rate that.
Defence- Doesn't seem to be many problems, clearly you've splashed the cash on it. Never heard of Mohr or know much about Sierakowski can't comment on them.
Midfield- Looks pretty strong, Callum Bartlett?
Rucks- Just about the same as mine, Not sure Redden will play at all though probably reconsider him.
Forwards- Not sure on 3 rookies starting in the forward line. Although individually they seem OK, I would reshuffle to account for that, because especially with two on the bench, that is too risky. Who is Panos? Not too sure on Lamb's chances either.
Overall, a good lineup, don't have too much to negate it by, so I guess it can be construed as a very good team.
Quote from: Junktimer on November 16, 2011, 01:46:53 PM
Quote from: Bluesman on November 09, 2011, 07:39:40 AM
Quote from: Voldemort on November 01, 2011, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Bluesman on November 01, 2011, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: Voldemort on October 31, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
you have 4 super premiums in you mids, why not change that? Get better balance of your team, anyway good luck ;)
Know what you're saying. As much it kills me to leave Pendles out, you're probably right. Also I know i'l be given a hard time with the fwd line but i really find this sooooooo hard to pick each year with not many 'locks'. Besides i see this is where many more mid options are looking to be..... How does this balance stack up then?? Thanks for your comments everyone, cheers :)
TEAM NAME: Incredibles Mark 2!!
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, B. Lake, S.Morris?, B. Smedts (T.Mohr, W. Sierakowski)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, M. Barlow, C. Bartlett (S. Clifton, A. Treloar)
RUC: T. Goldstein, M. Leuenberger (R. Stanley, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, P. Ryder, J. Grant, J. Lisle, J. Lamb, B. Newton (Z. Skinner, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $14,100
Rookie fwds might include Zorko/Saad
I can count 2 true premiums in the fwd line (excluding Ryder), you need more :-X
Still a very much Premium/rookie structure. Have foregone the MPP R/F and gone for West. Feel that it's not obvious at this stage who the best ruck will be so why spend it now! Have fun pulling apart.... :P
TEAM NAME: Incredibles
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, S. Fisher, S. Docherty, T. Mohr (S. Morris, W. Sierakowski)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, T. Mitchell, C. Bartlett (C. Smith, A. Treloar)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, T. West (J. Giles, J. Redden)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, N. Fyfe, T. Cloke, J. Lamb, M. Panos, A. Saad (T. Walsh, D. Zorko)
CASH LEFT: $127,200
This is your latest team so I'll rate that.
Defence- Doesn't seem to be many problems, clearly you've splashed the cash on it. Never heard of Mohr or know much about Sierakowski can't comment on them.
Midfield- Looks pretty strong, Callum Bartlett?
Rucks- Just about the same as mine, Not sure Redden will play at all though probably reconsider him.
Forwards- Not sure on 3 rookies starting in the forward line. Although individually they seem OK, I would reshuffle to account for that, because especially with two on the bench, that is too risky. Who is Panos? Not too sure on Lamb's chances either.
Overall, a good lineup, don't have too much to negate it by, so I guess it can be construed as a very good team.
Thanks JT - appreciate that! Yeah i've changed team around a bit toying with a few ideas and players. Basically think i'll be going though with a strong Backline & mids, 1 strong ruck and West + only 2 premium fwds with a couple of midpricers possibly- even Hawkins and J.Grant with a few mature rookies. Time will tell and will resend another team in time for your expertise!! ;D
cheers
I think I have a similar mid field initially
S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood,
Geelong, Pies, & Freo bye is going to hurt :(. I want to fit in mundy & selwood but I don't think I can. On the other hand I don't want to leave out Pendlebury, argh...
Think we going to need at least 1 representative from Carlton in the mids. I see them as a top 4 side next year.
Quote from: charliesheen on November 16, 2011, 11:41:12 PM
I think I have a similar mid field initially
S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood,
Geelong, Pies, & Freo bye is going to hurt :(. I want to fit in mundy & selwood but I don't think I can. On the other hand I don't want to leave out Pendlebury, argh...
Think we going to need at least 1 representative from Carlton in the mids. I see them as a top 4 side next year.
well my latest is below - perhaps draft # 12 with another 2 dozen to come maybe before it really starts!! lol..
Have thought about Pendles and he is ALOT of money. Sure he had a good year last year and no doubt will again be in the top half dozen mids but for value i think the Mundy AND Barlow fit may work a biit better?? For 400k i can't see another mid pricer with as much upside as Barlow in any line so worth taking the risk seeing his injury was 'only' a break and should be the end of it barring another freak injury. As for Mundy, don't think Pendles is worth the risk of 15 ppg more in price at the start of season - here's hoping he drops and i can pick him up at the right time!!! And Barlow likely to be the one getting tagged may actually assist Mundy imo...
cheers ;)
TEAM NAME: Incredibles
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, S. Fisher, M. Buntine, S. Docherty (T. Mohr, S. Morris)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, M. Barlow, T. Mitchell (D. Shiel, D. Zorko)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, T. West (J. Giles, J. Redden)
FWD: L. Franklin, D. Zaharakis, S. Sidebottom, T. Hawkins, J. Grant, W. Hoskin-Elliott, M. Panos (A. Saad, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $2,200
I do not know how many teams are being constructed with byes in mind. I am now re-looking at mine and will be refining on the week end (not a lot of time to put into this with full time work during the week) as this will be important if going for overall
Nice Team though
Thanks to Powerman this is a good simple look at draw and byes.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,44785.0.html
G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, M. Barlow
thats 4 mid fielders out in one bye :D
Thanks for that guys. I'll have to have a re-think...
cheers ;D