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Name: Stephen Coniglio
Position: Inside Midfielder
Age (by draft day): 17
Height: 182cm
Weight: 76kg

(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stephen+Coniglio+AFL+U18+Championships+South+X-I77QcBYgll.jpg)

Coniglio has probably been the most talked about draft prospect this season, mainly because he was yet to decide between AFL and Cricket. Luckily for us, he chose AFL . But why so much fuss over him? Well he managed to win the Larke Medal as the best player in Division One of the 2011 NAB AFL Under-18 Championships playing as the Captain of Western Australia. He is probably in the top tier of players in this draft which is why he'll most likely go in the top 2 to GWS.

As a midfielder, he gains plenty of Clearances and Tackles with his inside work. Not only that but he has some speed in his legs to break away from the pack which makes him quite a midfielder to help build a team around for the future. As shown by his Larke Medal, Coniglio has the potential to be a future captain for his club with his leadership qualities as well as his on-field workrate through his solid endurance. He has played 6 games for Swans District in the WAFL this season (U18 duties took him away for quite a while) in which he managed to average over 18 disposals a game. He does have a tendency to give away free kicks but manages to balance it out with free kicks for. Not to mention his ability to play Half Forward flank, setting up goals for teammates. He may not kick alot of goals regularly but he can kick goals and attack if forward. Although wouldn't expect too much of him goal-scoring wise in his first season. I'd like to think of him as a Andrew Swallow type of midfielder which should see him influence the game a bit from the midfield if given the chance.

Fantasy Relevant? I'd like to think he is a very capable player. He'll more than likely turn out into a David Swallow type scorer first season, a solid scorer in his first season. Swallow had Ablett while Coniglio has a few more midfielders around him to help him out which makes me think he could go for a little more. His ability to play forward flank is tempting as who doesn't like a midfielder who can push up for some goals here and there, especially if GWS need attacking players (More than likely to go to GWS). Yet being a top 3 pick (99.8% certain) will mean he comes with a little more hefty price tag. This price tag will make me question him especially with the midfield this talent this season where you could save anywhere from 20-50k on the downgrade from Coniglio. No doubt he has talent but if he goes to GWS, I think Dylan Shiels or Adam Treloar could be just as tempting at a lower price.

Lock for me.  8)
Great profile aswell.
I may be able to help out with profiles this preseason.

Haha Maca. He's certainly tempting with his skills. Him and Jaeger apparently killed it at the U18 Championships for WA. Wonder if GWS would keep the pair together :-X.

Cheers Maca :D. Was planning on going through the predicted top 10-20 before I do a few players all over the place (as some guys I rate are expected to drop quite a bit). Should put together quite the list if I can get through 2-3 a day :D.

Think I may take Shiel instead. Maybe even Treloar.

Not sure if I will get any high priced rookies like Swallow this year. Save some money and use it elsewhere.

Locked as well, not skimping on rookies this year.

Quote from: MajorLazer on September 24, 2011, 07:11:59 PM
Think I may take Shiel instead. Maybe even Treloar.

Not sure if I will get any high priced rookies like Swallow this year. Save some money and use it elsewhere.

I did the same thing with swallow this year and regretted it. Not much, but enough :P

I'll be jumping on I think.

I *may* do some player profiles, we'll see how it goes. Out of curiosity HP, where are you getting your stats from?

Can't remember but another forum had all his stats just there (With a player profile like mine but stats in table form). I just interpretted the stats as it's hard to find decent stats for those outside of the TAC competition :(. Although the write ups are my own ;).

For most of the VIC players, I can go to this site: http://www.sportingpulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-3020-0-150804-0&a=STATS&sgroup=possessions - Just need to look up their name.

Great work HP! 8)

I'll be getting on him.

does anyone know if monty will be posting the WAFL and SAFL stats etc. like he did last year?

haha was waiting for you to do this guy ;)
\Locked IN!

Quote from: MajorLazer on September 24, 2011, 07:11:59 PM
Think I may take Shiel instead. Maybe even Treloar.

Not sure if I will get any high priced rookies like Swallow this year. Save some money and use it elsewhere.

+1. 

Given how the GCS rookies performed in 2011, I am not sure I can justify spending an extra ~50k here.  Will need an exceptional preseason or MPP classification to come into consideration.

Will probably probably skip the number 1 pick Patton as well.

Izzy, Cameron and Bruce will be the KPP fowards for GWS so Patton won't play much in year 1 IMO.

Coniglio is a gun though, and i'll be jumping on regardless of his price.

Izz  y, Cameron Bruce, going to be the Key forward for Hawthorn next season?

Note, the supercoach winner of 2011, didn't have D. Swallow, who was considered a must by many (also missed Curnow & Liba).

I guess its going to be a balancing act, and whether you actually think the extra $$$ can justify the pick.

I think it interesting that people are jumping on 'band wagons' so early, especially given that the GCS rookies have not lived up to their expectations (apart from the matured age recruits).

Could very well end up with Bennel like scoring.

Quote from: meow meow on September 27, 2011, 06:12:29 PM
Izzy, Cameron and Bruce will be the KPP fowards for GWS so Patton won't play much in year 1 IMO.

Coniglio is a gun though, and i'll be jumping on regardless of his price.

I'd say Bruce is more of a utility rather than a KPP. Patton will play as he's more ready. Sam Day from Suns is a project player (somewhat of a comparison) while Patton is known to be able to handle double teams (apparently has faced them for years). But as this is Coniglio, off topic :-X.

Interesting indeed charlie. It's the price tag which worries me and many. 4 other Who Knows says we aren't the only ones ;).

As someone who was at Etihad for the U/18 as an impartial supporter (Vic Metro if I had to pick), I watched him and Jaegar O'Maera absoutely rip it up in their games and was very impressed at how mature Coniglio looked on the field very much like David Swallow.

Fantastic review though and I have to say that your notes are spot on, from everything I watched and talked to with scouters since he's a very very tasty prospect, but as you astutely noted there is a massive pool of talented midfielders in this years draft and that extra 20-50k could go a long way later in the year. But with a GWS lacking a A-Grader (yet, Scully is not even close) midfielder he could also risk taking on too much of a load and fatiguing, which makes me think the recruitment of older players is going to make the midfield a heavily rotated situation and may affect the amount of games he plays? I don't know anything about the GWS youth-policy so this is all theoretical.

I think personally I am keeping a close eye on Dylan Buckley even with the injuries, as somebody who knows his family and grew up playing with him at Fitzroy there's something in his attitude that makes him seem like he's capable of playing right away if he's ready, I know he's not a first-round prospect but do you have any notes on him? I'd be keen to see what there's been out there considering he's been injured for most of the season,

Anyway, it's a No for me so far unless his pre-season is out of this world, the money could be better spent

Quote from: charliesheen on September 27, 2011, 12:17:39 PM

Quote from: MajorLazer on September 24, 2011, 07:11:59 PM
Think I may take Shiel instead. Maybe even Treloar.

Not sure if I will get any high priced rookies like Swallow this year. Save some money and use it elsewhere.

+1. 

Given how the GCS rookies performed in 2011, I am not sure I can justify spending an extra ~50k here.  Will need an exceptional preseason or MPP classification to come into consideration.

Will probably probably skip the number 1 pick Patton as well.

Sorry, I'm a DTer not SCer, but to me, a SC avg from a first year rookie (regardless of price tag) of 80 such as swallow sounds like an opportunity that really shouldn't be missed... I mean, I wouldn't touch him if I thought he would average under 70, but if he has the skills for 80ish avg, sounds like a final upgrade target to me.

Considering D. Swallow's base price, I reckon 80 was just... a passable average. 

If I were to do my team again, I probably would not have Swallow in my SC team.  Saying that, this would have put me at risk at picking Bewick/Atley/Iron picks, so early corrections would have been needed for the Curnows/Libas/etc.

IMO, at this stage, Shiels is the only lock for me, who would have probably gone number 1..  Reckon is a bit premature with the other picks, especially considering they are probably going to cost like 50k+ more.

Quote from: fortynine on September 28, 2011, 12:18:34 AM
As someone who was at Etihad for the U/18 as an impartial supporter (Vic Metro if I had to pick), I watched him and Jaegar O'Maera absoutely rip it up in their games and was very impressed at how mature Coniglio looked on the field very much like David Swallow.

Fantastic review though and I have to say that your notes are spot on, from everything I watched and talked to with scouters since he's a very very tasty prospect, but as you astutely noted there is a massive pool of talented midfielders in this years draft and that extra 20-50k could go a long way later in the year. But with a GWS lacking a A-Grader (yet, Scully is not even close) midfielder he could also risk taking on too much of a load and fatiguing, which makes me think the recruitment of older players is going to make the midfield a heavily rotated situation and may affect the amount of games he plays? I don't know anything about the GWS youth-policy so this is all theoretical.

I think personally I am keeping a close eye on Dylan Buckley even with the injuries, as somebody who knows his family and grew up playing with him at Fitzroy there's something in his attitude that makes him seem like he's capable of playing right away if he's ready, I know he's not a first-round prospect but do you have any notes on him? I'd be keen to see what there's been out there considering he's been injured for most of the season,

Anyway, it's a No for me so far unless his pre-season is out of this world, the money could be better spent

Indeed O'Meara will be hot property this off season, with West Coast certainly going to try and secure his draft rights from GWS. Yet makes me wonder if GWS would decide to keep both Coniglio and O'Meara for their future Dynasty. I haven't heard much on Buckley but will keep an eye on him! There could be some gems who fall in this draft, even outside the first round like there always is.

I agree that GWS seem to recruiting alot of midfielders so may be quite stocked there. Coniglio can play on the Forward Flank which does help his job security if he does go to GWS, as doesn't hurt to be versatile for a new team trying to figure out their best lineup. I'd expect it to be somewhat similar to Suns rotation wise. Keep the core future players while rotating the rest (e.g Swallow, McKenzie, Smith stayed while other rookies were rotated regularly).

Quote from: charliesheen on September 28, 2011, 04:38:18 PM
Considering D. Swallow's base price, I reckon 80 was just... a passable average. 

If I were to do my team again, I probably would not have Swallow in my SC team.  Saying that, this would have put me at risk at picking Bewick/Atley/Iron picks, so early corrections would have been needed for the Curnows/Libas/etc.

IMO, at this stage, Shiels is the only lock for me, who would have probably gone number 1..  Reckon is a bit premature with the other picks, especially considering they are probably going to cost like 50k+ more.

Indeed, Shiels was a near certainty for top 3 this season if he wasn't already signed by GWS as a 17 y.o. Treloar also a potential top 10 pick (maybe top 5 but can't remember). There seems to be a few bargains looming at GWS who were signed as 17 y.o's, making it hard to take on some players with that extra $$$ to them. Guess it'll come to how the prices stack up before we can really decide if we can fit in High-priced rookies such as Coniglio.