looking at first year players that will go boom in 2012 and Smith seems to fit the bill.
fairly consistent for a first year
but most importantly has a high ceiling of 138
I reckon he is big risk but the rewards could be huge.
Thoughts?
100% argee. I may just take this risk
but if the hawks get better, will he be there for the ride?
Quote from: Cicjose on September 17, 2011, 04:09:43 AM
but if the hawks get better, will he be there for the ride?
Of course he would he is currently among the best at hawthorn along with Puopolo. Both of these players have been named in best players for a while now. Who says these players wont improve.
However, i dont think i will be picking him in 2012 unless he has a great preseason.
I was waiting for someone to say this if he is still a forward im thinking of picking him up, i would love if ziebell and beams were forwards also (but thats a dream)
My dream starting forward line woudl be
Franklin, Beams, Ziebell, Smith, Didak, Brown, Fev - would cost alot but could pump a 700 in the first week.
Quote from: Holzman on September 17, 2011, 02:31:31 PM
I was waiting for someone to say this if he is still a forward im thinking of picking him up, i would love if ziebell and beams were forwards also (but thats a dream)
Considering Ziebell in the mids (definetly won't be a fwd). I would probably only get smith if he was (fwd/mid). Downside is that he will probably start at about 320k with his average of 82. Most fwd's drop to that throughout the season anyway so it's way less risk to wait and see how goes first
Considering him ;)
He won't get a discount so he'll be over $350k next year - almost as expensive as Nick Riewoldt and a fair bit more than Alan Didak and Jonathan Brown. I don't think I'd be willing to risk that much money on a guy with only 13 games under his belt. If they are still available as forwards I'd probably go for Jack Steven or Mitch Duncan as potential CTR/FWD breakouts rather than Smith. Not writing him off just yet though.
Would have to still be MPP, even then i doubt i'll start with him but may look at him as a upgrade if form is strong.
why not? he looks the goods
consistently good scoring forwards have been hard to find...and he looked as good as anyone - including finals series so far..
with MPP, I think is is certainly still on the radar..
I reckon he will, he's skinny enough for it ;)
Catching up on everything I missed...
Anyways, I think a lot depends on his price. Obviously, the potential to dominate is there but, considering he is young, there is a good chance that he might take a while to warm up in season two giving a price drop before you pick him up. If he fits well in your starting line up and keeps DPP, get him. Otherwise, maybe wait for a potential bottomout first.
If he is C/F classified and mid priced then he might be worth the risk.
Quote from: valkorum on November 21, 2011, 12:25:55 PM
If he is C/F classified and mid priced then he might be worth the risk.
If he's DPP I'll almost certainly get him. I don't know why m0nty has him as only midfield in the FP... I recall him playing forward flank a fair bit and kicking a fair few goals.
I think he will be classified as a mid only as well. Spent most of his playing time on a wing.
If he's a mid he'll miss out on my team sadly.
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2011, 02:20:02 PM
If he's a mid he'll miss out on my team sadly.
I think he will miss out on a lot of teams if he is mid only.
Quote from: valkorum on November 21, 2011, 02:47:30 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2011, 02:20:02 PM
If he's a mid he'll miss out on my team sadly.
I think he will miss out on a lot of teams if he is mid only.
i hope fyfe is classified as a mid also
Why's that holz? I know it'll make my decision on him a lot easier :P
I think Fyfe will be classified as a mid only this year as well. I dont think he will have as big an impact as he did this year. He scored well because there was no-one else. You have the following coming back: Mundy, Barlow, Morabito. Lower and maybe Broughton should spend some more time in the middle as well. I think Fyfe will play a role similar to Chapman (when Gaz was still around) in that floating half forward who pushes in to the middle.
Quote from: valkorum on November 21, 2011, 05:18:15 PM
I think Fyfe will be classified as a mid only this year as well. I dont think he will have as big an impact as he did this year. He scored well because there was no-one else. You have the following coming back: Mundy, Barlow, Morabito. Lower and maybe Broughton should spend some more time in the middle as well. I think Fyfe will play a role similar to Chapman (when Gaz was still around) in that floating half forward who pushes in to the middle.
Fyfe will still be MPP. He had the 2nd or 3rd highest goals at Freo. Pav clearly said that Fyfe was going to get pushed further into the mids as his body kept developing (to cope with tackles, etc.). Broughton traditionally has quiet games when Mundy plays + why would they want to 'give him more time in the middle,' when he is the half back?! They already have a decent midfield and they are going to reinforce it by giving Fyfe more time there.
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2011, 05:16:05 PM
Why's that holz? I know it'll make my decision on him a lot easier :P
becuase i dont want him in my team, as valk said all those players coming back i can see his average falling. Actually thinking about it i would like him forward so more people pick him up, but im not starting him either way.
Broughton's quiet games last year where when he had to play a lockdown role and didnt rebound as much. His SC scores were still quite good because of it, but his DT scores suffered. When he went in to the midfield (about middle of the season) his scores were excellent (DT & SC)
But we are getting off topic...... I still think Smith will be mid only next year.