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Question: Who has the best team?
Option 1: Team 1 votes: 0
Option 2: Team 2 votes: 1
Option 3: Team 3 votes: 0
Option 4: Team 4 votes: 9
Option 5: Team 5 votes: 8
Option 6: Team 6 votes: 1
Title: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: MTTY on December 22, 2010, 10:12:38 AM
Below are teams that were picked from a cricket draft please vote for the team that is made up of who you think has the best team of players who still play in some sort of the game (IPL or International or Domestic) and when they were at their peak.

In no particular order

Team 1                                                             Team 2

1.Chris Gayle(VC)                                               1.Sanath Jayasuriya
2.Andrew Strauss(C)                                         2.Matthew Hayden
3.Jonathan Trott                                               3.Stephen Fleming(C)
4.Kevin Pieterson                                              4.Mahela Jayawardene
5.Dwayne Bravo                                                5.Jaques Kallis(VC)
6.Brendan McCullum(WK)                                  6.Younis Khan
7.Irfan Pathan                                                   7.Mark Boucher(WK)
8.Umar Gul                                                         8.Saqlain Mushtaq
9.Brett Lee                                                         9.Shoaib Akhtar
10.Stuart Clark                                                   10.Shane Bond
11.Muttiah Muralitharan                                      11.Nathan Bracken

Team 3                                                             Team 4

1.Hercelle Gibbs                                               1.Sourav Ganguly(C)
2.Shane Watson                                              2.Simon Katich
3.Sachin Tendulkar                                          3.Rahul Dravid
4.Kumar Sangakkara(WK/C)                            4.Shivnarine Chanderpaul(VC)
5.Mike Hussey                                                  5.Mohammed Yousef
6.Paul Collingwood                                           6.Adam Gilchrist(WK)
7.Andrew Symonds                                           7.Shaun Pollock
8.Daniel Vettori (VC)                                                8.Shane Warne
9.Lasith Malinga                                                9.Abdul Razzaq
10.Morne Morkel                                               10.Chaminda Vaas
11.James Anderson                                           11.Makhaya Ntini

Team 5                                                              Team 6

1.Greame Smith(VC)                                          1.Virender Sehwag
2.VVS Laxman                                                    2.Gutum Gahmbir
3.Ricky Ponting(C)                                              3.Hashim Amla
4.Brian Lara                                                        4.A.B.DeVilliers
5.Ramnaresh Sarwan                                         5.Michael Clarke(VC)
6.Brad Haddin(WK)                                             6.Shadid Afridi
7.Andrew Flintoff                                                 7.M.S.Dhoni(WK/C)
8.Mitch Johnson                                                  8.Mohammad Asif
9.Anil Kumble                                                      9.Harbajan Singh
10.Zaheer Khan                                                  10.Dale Steyn
11.Glenn McGrath                                                11.Stuart Broad

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Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Master Q on December 22, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
Very Hard To Choose  :P

Liking Team 4 and 6 atm...
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: bomberboy0618 on December 22, 2010, 10:44:11 AM
4 is really good, but so are the others  :-\
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: reesbr on December 22, 2010, 10:56:11 AM
4 and 5 I like
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Master Q on December 22, 2010, 10:59:44 AM
Yeh 5 is good but the bowling attack is weak compared to some other teams...
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 22, 2010, 12:52:17 PM
Same as reesbr, 4 or 5 will get my vote.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Master Q on December 22, 2010, 12:56:39 PM
Team 5 has the Worst Keeper out of the bunch (Close to Mcullum, Very), Zaheer Khan and Mitchell Johnson.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 22, 2010, 01:10:35 PM
Worst Keeper compared to others. Probably could of found a better one but ah well.

Overall though, probably one of the better batting and bowling lineups ;). But I'll take your word for it as I don't know as much as you guys about cricket.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Master Q on December 22, 2010, 01:20:01 PM
To me I think it's No.4, then No.5.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: roo boys! on December 22, 2010, 01:23:51 PM
Apart from Warne I can't see as good bowling depth in team 4 as the others, say for example team 1 has some better bowlers IMO.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Master Q on December 22, 2010, 01:39:46 PM
Ntini is a mega star.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: bomberboy0618 on December 22, 2010, 01:44:35 PM
Steyn is the best fast bowler in international cricket, and i think team 6 has very good batters
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: CrowsFan on December 22, 2010, 01:45:15 PM
Team 5's batting is just wow!
Ponting and Lara 2 of the best 3 batsmen of the generation, plus Smith and Laxman opening. Nothing could beat that!
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Master Q on December 22, 2010, 01:45:54 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on December 22, 2010, 01:44:35 PM
Steyn is the best fast bowler in international cricket, and i think team 6 has very good batters
McGrath  :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: MTTY on December 22, 2010, 01:49:45 PM
voted team 5 closely followed by team 4
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: bomberboy0618 on December 22, 2010, 01:52:01 PM
I meant playing now :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: MTTY on December 22, 2010, 01:56:20 PM
voting is now open
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 22, 2010, 02:11:37 PM
seeing as icant vote for myself il vote for 4.. best spinner ever best 2 south afican pace bowlers and all batters on there day are unstopable
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: bomberboy0618 on December 22, 2010, 02:12:58 PM
yeah i gave  to 4
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: roo boys! on December 22, 2010, 02:20:28 PM
I voted team 5.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 22, 2010, 02:51:39 PM
I went  4. Simply because it seems to have 0 weaknesses. Very solid.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Boomz on December 22, 2010, 03:52:36 PM
Team 4 very solid all round.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: CrowsFan on December 22, 2010, 04:09:48 PM
I voted team 5. Very strong batting line up, only small weakness is not the biggest depth in bowlers, but still a great team
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 22, 2010, 04:44:23 PM
Team 5 does have an almost unbeatable batting lineup, 2 is good as well.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 22, 2010, 04:45:17 PM
so who u vote 4 :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: pyronerd on December 22, 2010, 09:22:39 PM
i voted 5 over 4 just, but only cause i couldnt vote for myself  :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: DazBurg on December 22, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
i voted for 5 aswell
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 22, 2010, 11:50:19 PM
Are you guys serious? lol Unstoppable line up>? If its on fire then yes but its prone to going out cheaply. Weak bowling attack in Team 5? A bowler probably exactly similar to Glen McGrath with a little less ability in Pollock... Who can bat a lot more. Ntini was an animal, Warne an animal, and Razzaq who is one of few bowlers to be able to reach 1k runs as well as 100 wickets. Oh and Vaas who basically did the same.

Before you vote, at least wikipedia the players and learn about them before you do.


Team 5; Best defensive/Solid batting line uo. Team 2 is the best top 5 in them all, team 5 is the best middle order and seam bowler.



Enough said.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 22, 2010, 11:54:43 PM
By the way I voted for Team 2. Best top order out of the lot, with a very solid bowling attack and the best actual keeper in the history of the game, holding the record for most dismissals by a keeper over Gilchrist.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: MajorLazer on December 23, 2010, 12:43:15 AM
I voted 4.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 23, 2010, 12:46:52 AM
I voted team 5 quite a while ago.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 23, 2010, 09:02:26 AM
My vote is still with 4 ;)
I think you got a bit mixed up with your numbers at the end there Shaggy :-X
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: roo boys! on December 23, 2010, 09:47:40 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 23, 2010, 12:46:52 AM
I voted team 5 quite a while ago.
Same.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: reesbr on December 23, 2010, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on December 23, 2010, 09:47:40 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 23, 2010, 12:46:52 AM
I voted team 5 quite a while ago.
Same.

Same.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 23, 2010, 11:48:08 AM
Team 5 would not bowl overly well...
Also they have 2 AR's :ninja
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: chrisuzz on December 23, 2010, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on December 23, 2010, 12:43:15 AM
I voted 4.
Same ;)
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 23, 2010, 11:55:43 AM
Quote from: chrisuzz on December 23, 2010, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on December 23, 2010, 12:43:15 AM
I voted 4.
Same ;)
Same.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 12:58:15 PM
gona b a very close poll
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 24, 2010, 02:16:23 PM
Team 4 FTW!
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 02:21:16 PM
lol If Team 4 loses to Team 5, I think I'm going to have to break out the statistics. lol
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 24, 2010, 02:22:00 PM
I wouldn't blame you I would much rather team 4 for ODI's & tests.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 02:24:54 PM
lol y shaggy
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: roo boys! on December 24, 2010, 02:29:37 PM
I wonder which one is Shaggy's team lol
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 02:30:53 PM
3 great batsmen, the rest average. Haddin is just an average keeper throughout active ones now. And 2 great bowlers in Kumle and McGrath with Flintoff as a decent one. How does that win? lol


Statistically Hawka, bowling wise, Team 4 dominates Team 5 especially with the pace attack. Vaas, Pollock, Ntini and Razzaq... Warne is better than Kumble, Pollock is only a little bit under McGrath's awesomeness. The rest of the bowlers smash the rest of his.

As for the batting, team 4 has batting depth down to pick 10. Yes, to the 10th position they can all bat. Ganguly, Dravid and Chanderpaul are the best defensive batsmen in history of the game, never giving up their wickets easily and spending a  lot of time at the crease without going out... Ganguly actually held the record for it until Dravid took it.

Then you add Yousef Youhanna who has the record for most runs EVER in a SINGLE YEAR with 9 centuries and well over 1k runs. Katich averages 49 I believe... Gilchrist, need I saw anything?
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 03:24:39 PM
lara was 1 of the best ponting is 1 of the best laxman smashed australia smith averges over 50.sarwan is a soild number 5.haddin can destory attacks like that flintoff was t 2nd best ar of the decade and even my number 8 has scored a test century and khan is indians best fast bowlers for years and its very hard to bowl pace in india flat turning pitches
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 24, 2010, 03:31:51 PM
Shaggy's number 8 made 99 :P
Y
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 03:32:28 PM
my 8 made 123 :P and my 9 made 117 :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: MTTY on December 24, 2010, 03:41:52 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on December 24, 2010, 03:24:39 PM
lara was 1 of the best ponting is 1 of the best laxman smashed australia smith averges over 50.sarwan is a soild number 5.haddin can destory attacks like that flintoff was t 2nd best ar of the decade and even my number 8 has scored a test century and khan is indians best fast bowlers for years and its very hard to bowl pace in india flat turning pitches
behind Kallis of course
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 03:51:53 PM
Never said anything bad against Lara, Ponting or Laxman. I said 3 great batsmen and that is them.

Alright, its statistics time.


Smith:

Competition   Test   FC   ODIs   LA
Matches   83   120   149   205
Runs scored   6,799   9,750   5,613   7,830
Batting average   49.99   50.51   40.67   41.87
100s/50s   20/26   28/36   8/41   12/60
Top score   277   311   141   141

Laxman:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   LA
Matches   116   86   247   173
Runs scored   7,695   2,338   18,434   5,078
Batting average   47.79   30.76   52.81   34.54
100s/50s   16/48   6/10   53/89   9/28
Top score   281   131   353   131

Ponting:

Competition   Test   ODIs   FC   List A
Matches   151   352   254   424
Runs scored   12,333   13,062   21,302   15,438
Batting average   53.85   42.75   56.20   42.29
100s/50s   39/56   29/79   73/94   33/94
Top score   257   164   257   164

Lara:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   LA
Matches   131   299   261   429
Runs scored   11,953   10,405   22,156   14,602
Batting average   52.88   40.48   51.88   39.67
100s/50s   34/48   19/63   65/88   27/86
Top score   400*   169   501*   169

Sarwan:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   LA
Matches   82   153   185   218
Runs scored   5,706   5,007   11,570   7,023
Batting average   41.95   43.04   40.03   41.31
100s/50s   15/31   4/33   30/62   7/42
Top score   291   115*   291   118*

Haddin:

Career statistics
Competition   Tests   ODIs   FC   List A
Matches   30   69   128   171
Runs scored   1,808   1,877   7,616   5,008
Batting average   40.17   32.36   40.94   33.61
100s/50s   3/7   2/10   13/41   8/29
Top score   169   110   169   138*
Catches/stumpings   114/3   92/7   404/29   233/44

Flintoff:

Competition   Test   ODIs   FC   LA
Matches   79   141   183   282
Runs scored   3,845   3,394   9,027   6,641
Batting average   31.77   32.01   33.80   29.78
100s/50s   5/26   3/18   15/53   6/34
Top score   167   123   167   143

Balls bowled   14,951   5,624   22,799   9,416
Wickets   226   169   350   289
Bowling average   32.78   24.38   31.59   22.61
5 wickets in innings   3   2   4   2
10 wickets in match   0   n/a   0   n/a
Best bowling   5/58   5/19   5/24   5/19
Catches/stumpings   52/â€"   47/â€"   185/â€"   106/â€"

Johnson:

Competition   Tests   ODIs   FC   List A
Matches   40   85   71   109
Runs scored   1,093   500   1,900   598
Batting average   22.77   16.12   24.35   16.61
100s/50s   1/5   0/1   2/9   0/1
Top score   123*   73*   123*   73*

Balls bowled   9,299   4,129   14,602   5,449
Wickets   175   129   272   159
Bowling average   29.00   26.51   30.06   28.18
5 wickets in innings   7   2   10   2
10 wickets in match   2   0   3   0
Best bowling   8/61   5/26   8/61   5/26
Catches/stumpings   10/â€"   21/â€"   17/â€"   24/â€"

Kumble:

Matches   132   271   244   380
Runs scored   2,506   938   5,572   1,456
Batting average   17.77   10.53   21.68   11.20
100s/50s   1/5   0/0   7/17   0/0
Top score   110*   26   154*   30*

Balls bowled   40,850   14,496   66,931   20,247
Wickets   619   337   1,136   514
Bowling average   29.65   30.89   25.83   27.58
5 wickets in innings   35   2   72   3
10 wickets in match   8   n/a   19   n/a
Best bowling   10/74   6/12   10/74   6/12
Catches/stumpings   60/â€"   85/â€"   120/â€"   122/â€"

Khan:

Competition   Test   ODIs   FC   List A
Matches   72   175   136   223
Runs scored   969   719   2,003   958
Batting average   13.45   13.07   14.41   12.94
100s/50s   0/3   0/0   0/4   0/0
Top score   75   34*   75   42

Balls bowled   14,417   8,577   27,899   11,165
Wickets   250   241   561   312
Bowling average   32.98   29.93   27.63   29.31
5 wickets in innings   9   1   31   1
10 wickets in match   1   n/a   8   n/a
Best bowling   7/87   5/42   9/138   5/42
Catches/stumpings   18/â€"   35/â€"   42/â€"   49/â€"

McGrath:

Competition   Test   ODIs   FC   LA
Matches   124   250   189   305
Runs scored   641   115   977   124
Batting average   7.36   3.83   7.75   3.35
100s/50s   0/1   0/0   0/2   0/0
Top score   61   11   61   11

Balls bowled   29248   12970   41759   15808
Wickets   563   381   835   463
Bowling average   21.64   22.02   20.85   21.60
5 wickets in innings   29   7   42   7
10 wickets in match   3   n/a   7   n/a
Best bowling   8/24   7/15   8/24   7/15
Catches/stumpings   38/â€"   37/â€"   54/â€"   48/â€"



Versus



Ganguly:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   List A
Matches   113   311   242   426
Runs scored   7,212   11,363   14,933   15,278
Batting average   42.17   41.02   43.92   41.51
100s/50s   16/35   22/72   31/85   31/94
Top score   239   183   239   183

Balls bowled   3,117   4,561   10,968   7,949
Wickets   32   100   164   168
Bowling average   52.53   38.49   36.82   38.41
5 wickets in innings   0   2   4   2
10 wickets in match   0   n/a   0   n/a
Best bowling   3/28   5/16   6/46   5/16
Catches/stumpings   71/â€"   100/â€"   166/â€"   129

Katich:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   List A
Matches   56   45   229   218
Runs scored   4,188   1,324   18,482   6,900
Batting average   45.03   35.78   53.57   37.09
100s/50s   10/25   1/9   51/98   7/54
Top score   157   107*   306   136*

Dravid:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   LA
Matches   147   339   278   444
Runs scored   12,000   10,765   22,135   15,147
Batting average   53.31   39.43   55.89   42.54
100s/50s   31/59   12/82   62/113   21/111
Top score   270   153   270   153

Chanderpaul:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   LA
Matches   126   261   248   374
Runs scored   8,969   8,648   17,772   12,110
Batting average   49.28   41.77   53.85   42.04
100s/50s   21/53   11/59   51/90   12/88
Top score   203*   150   303*   150

Yousuf:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   LA
Matches   90   287   134   325
Runs scored   7,530   9,717   10,152   10,510
Batting average   52.29   41.88   49.28   39.81
100s/50s   24/33   15/64   29/49   15/68
Top score   223   141*   223   141*

Gilchrist:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   List A
Matches   96   287   190   355
Runs scored   5,570   9,619   10,334   11,288
Batting average   47.60   35.89   44.16   34.94
100s/50s   17/26   16/55   30/43   18/63
Top score   204*   172   204*   172
Catches/stumpings   379/37   417/55   756/55   526/65

Pollock:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   LA
Matches   108   303   186   435
Runs scored   3,781   3,519   7,021   5,494
Batting average   32.31   26.45   33.11   26.66
100s/50s   2/16   1/14   6/35   3/24
Top score   111   130   150*   134*

Balls bowled   24,353   15,712   39,067   21,588
Wickets   421   393   667   573
Bowling average   23.11   24.50   23.25   22.93
5 wickets in innings   16   5   22   7
10 wickets in match   1   n/a   2   n/a
Best bowling   7/87   6/35   7/33   6/21
Catches/stumpings   72/â€"   108/â€"   132/â€"   153/â€"

Warne:

Competition   Tests   ODIs   FC   LA
Matches   145   194   301   311
Runs scored   3,154   1,018   6,919   1,879
Batting average   17.32   13.05   19.43   11.81
100s/50s   0/12   0/1   2/26   0/1
Top score   99   55   107*   55

Balls bowled   40,704   10,642   74,830   16,419
Wickets   708   293   1,319   473
Bowling average   25.41   25.73   26.11   24.61
5 wickets in innings   37   1   69   3
10 wickets in match   10   n/a   12   n/a
Best bowling   8/71   5/33   8/71   6/42
Catches/stumpings   125/â€"   80/â€"   264/â€"   126/â€"

Razzaq:

Competition   Test   ODI   T20I
Matches   46   245   23
Runs scored   1,946   4,837   297
Batting average   28.61   30.61   22.84
100s/50s   3/7   3/22   0/0
Top score   134   112   46*

Balls bowled   7,008   10,383   273
Wickets   100   259   14
Bowling average   36.94   31.40   22.85
5 wickets in innings   1   3   0
10 wickets in match   0   n/a   n/a
Best bowling   5/35   6/35   3/20
Catches/stumpings   15/â€"   33/â€"   2/â€"

Vaas:

Competition   Test   ODIs   FC   LA
Matches   111   322   202   392
Runs scored   3,089   2,025   5,525   2,903
Batting average   24.32   13.68   25.69   16.12
100s/50s   1/13   0/1   4/24   0/6
Top score   100*   50*   134   76*

Balls bowled   23,438   15,775   37,222   18,652
Wickets   355   400   683   479
Bowling average   29.58   27.53   24.98   27.07
5 wickets in innings   12   4   27   4
10 wickets in match   2   n/a   3   n/a
Best bowling   7/71   8/19   7/54   8/19
Catches/stumpings   31/â€"   60/â€"   57/â€"   79/â€"

Ntini:

Competition   Test   ODI   FC   LA
Matches   101   173   180   235
Runs scored   692   199   1,242   270
Batting average   9.74   8.65   9.55   6.92
100s/50s   0/0   0/0   0/0   0/0
Top score   32*   42*   34*   42*

bowled   20,660   8,687   33,311   11,410
Wickets   390   266   624   340
Bowling average   28.53   24.65   28.84   25.00
5 wickets in innings   18   4   25   5
10 wickets in match   4   n/a   4   n/a
Best bowling   7/37   6/22   7/37   6/22
Catches/stumpings   25/â€"   30/â€"   40/â€"   41/â€"





Alex, my #10 has a ton too. -.-
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 03:53:11 PM
Yeah, you have several fantastic players... But I know which one I would take hawka. :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 03:59:48 PM
haha nice work shaggy personally i reckon our teams are very hard to separate
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 04:03:02 PM
I think they are both good teams but my bowling dominates yours, while we both have different batting set ups. Mine is more defensive, can force draws easily when things aren't going great or dominate the scoreboard whereas yours is a lot more aggressive, will obliterate most opponents in a battings innings if things go their way.

2 different batting styles but the bowling is where it is separated.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 04:06:46 PM
but all my bowlers on thee day can deystory a attack kumble has 10 wickets in a innings mcgrath has a few 8 fors so does johnno
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 04:28:42 PM
Yeah and they are your 2 best bowlers... Kumble and McGrath. Johnson is still only a good bowler but not a great one. He doesn't have much of an impact. Kumble is gthe 2nd best leg spinner in history. Nothing will change that and McGrath is probably the best seam bowler. He is for sure the best as far as the rules went for this competition.

Lets look at it this way:

Competition   Tests   ODIs   FC   List A
Flintoff: Wickets   226   169   350   289
Johnson: Wickets   175   129   272   159
Kumble: Wickets   619   337   1,136   514
Khan: Wickets   250   241   561   312
McGrath: Wickets   563   381   835   463

Totals
Test: 1833
ODI: 1284


Ganguly: Wickets   32   100   164   168
Pollock: Wickets   421   393   667   573
Warne: Wickets   708   293   1,319   473
Razzaq: Wickets   100   259   14
Vaas: Wickets   355   400   683   479
Ntini: Wickets   390   266   624   340

Totals
Test: 2006
ODI: 1711




Who picks up more wickets? ;)
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 04:39:37 PM
While I was at it, I worked out the batting totals from both teams for Test/ODI.

Team 5:

55,348 Test runs
43,968 ODI runs


Team 4

58,131 Test runs
63,034 ODI runs



Massive difference in ODI. Absolutely massive. So you can have your 3 gun batsmen, Team 4 showers all over them.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 04:43:45 PM
Now that I have proven without a shadow of a doubt who the better team is, anyone wish to change their vote yet?
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 24, 2010, 04:44:57 PM
I'm guessing you're team 4 Shaggy? :P.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 04:46:17 PM
Oh yeah, I am Team 4 lol
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Boomz on December 24, 2010, 04:51:06 PM
lol I already voted team 4 :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 04:53:13 PM
The point I am trying to make is people have voted based on 5-6 players from Team 5, instead the whole team of Team 4 which is the purpose of the draft. Its to make the best all-round team possible and while Team5/hawka has made a nice team, it quite clearly by the statistics isn't the best possible.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 24, 2010, 05:09:19 PM
So do I ;)
Hey Shaggy I was on your side ::)
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:16:28 PM
Average Matches per team

Team 5

Test/Innings: 94.54/189.08
ODI: 184.54

Team 4

Test/Innings: 103.54/207.09
ODI: 251.54


So it's quite clear my side has played quite a few more games than your team, which isn't really a factor but should be in the test averages per game/innings which obviously, not all of them would have gone to a 2nd innings but go with it anyway.



Average Team Runs Per Match/Innings

Worked out by Matches Total divided by 11 to find an average, then dividing the runs total by that matches/innings average.

Team 5

Test: 585.44/292.72
ODI: 238.25

Team 4

Test: 561.43/280.70
ODI: 250.59


So by this method, my team outscores you in ODI which is where I have a lot of strength in my bowlers, whilst in tests you outscore me.





Alex, I know you were. :p
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:19:01 PM
Now should I do anymore.... Hmmm I dunno. I think I proved my point lol I could do an average of how many wickets they would pick up per match. :D
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 24, 2010, 05:19:27 PM
Although like you said Shaggy because of the extra matches played for your guys they will naturally have lower averages.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:22:16 PM
Overall when added up, my team had played nearly 1k more ODI and about 200 more tests. So it is a big difference.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 24, 2010, 05:22:38 PM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:19:01 PM
Now should I do anymore.... Hmmm I dunno. I think I proved my point lol I could do an average of how many wickets they would pick up per match. :D
You would have to incorporate the average amount of overs in a test innings, the SR of the bowlers, the average amount of deliveries between dismissals for the batsman, the amount of not out innings achieved by the batsmen, would be complicated...

Or we could jsut assume both teams would take 10 per innings, 20 per test :ninja
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:23:42 PM
And I am not very good at working out averages. Hence why I asked HP if I was doing the right formula just to do the test/innings one. :p
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:26:13 PM
And thats funny because I used to be top 1.3% in Australia for maths when I was a kid. -_- Old age, I tell you... And lots of alcohol.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 24, 2010, 05:29:01 PM
Haha :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:30:01 PM
Would I change a thing? Yes... I would have started drinking earlier. :D
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 05:31:06 PM
wen ppl vote they mite not look at the whole team they mite say hey he has mcgrath lara and ponting ior in your case they mite say hey he has warne and gilly
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 24, 2010, 05:31:57 PM
It is stupid to jusdge a team based on a few players though. You need to look a little deeper ;)
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 05:32:27 PM
very true alex and i voted for u btw shaggy
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:33:23 PM
They should be voting for the team, which is the point. I mean, after all, it is the title of the thread.


Who has created the best team from the cricket draft?



But thats not to say you don't have a good team because you honestly do. It just has quite a few holes in it.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 05:35:21 PM
thx
i neglected the bowling a bit i know
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:36:44 PM
I voted for Team 2 because he has a ripper team (Except for Bracken who hasn't really been 'that good' in any form). He has the best openers, a very solid middle order with the best keeper in cricket now, or ever. Not keeper-batsman or that would be Gilly but pure keeper in Boucher.  And a solid slightly underrated bowling attack.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 05:38:04 PM
team 2 first six is just  :o

but all those bowlers were very inconstsient
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:43:17 PM
Not really. Its a ODI bowling line up. Mushtaq is the best ODI off spinner, having reached all the milestones for wickets up to 250 faster than anyone else. And the only spinner ever to get a hat trick in a one dayer as well.

Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:45:35 PM
And he took 2 hat-tricks in ODI's, only 2 other guys have done that. One is Vaas who I have and Im not sure who the other guy was.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 24, 2010, 05:48:07 PM
wasim akram
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:48:47 PM
Yeah thats it. Couldn't remember who but I knew it was a Pakistani as well.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: MTTY on December 24, 2010, 08:16:20 PM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 05:36:44 PM
I voted for Team 2 because he has a ripper team (Except for Bracken who hasn't really been 'that good' in any form). He has the best openers, a very solid middle order with the best keeper in cricket now, or ever. Not keeper-batsman or that would be Gilly but pure keeper in Boucher.  And a solid slightly underrated bowling attack.
cheers shaggy thought i was actually in with a chance until the first few votes came in :-\
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 24, 2010, 08:20:38 PM
Team 2 was second for mine :)
Team 4 just couldn't be beaten though. Very nice team MTTY ;)
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 24, 2010, 11:27:03 PM
When it was finished, I knew I had the best team overall. But my biggest risk to voters in my opinion was your team MTTY... :x
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: CrowsFan on December 25, 2010, 12:11:04 AM
Thought I would do my own little stats here to see if they differ from what shaggy is saying. Going by the batting average of each player in each team I have worked out that the average score each team would make each inning if every player batted would be:

Team 4
Tests: 401.98 runs
ODI's: 288.78 runs

Team 5
Tests: 379.75 runs
ODI's: 305.62 runs

And now going on bowling averages for how many runs they would concede before getting the other out (work out an average for the 5 bowlers then multiply by 10)
Team 4
Tests: 287.14 runs
ODI's: 267.62 runs

Team 5
Tests: 292.1 runs
ODI's: 267.46 runs

So from these stats you can see that Team 4 is clearly better than Team 5 in test matches since they score more runs per innings and concede less when bowling. But for ODI's it is the opposite so Team 5 is better since they score more runs and concede a little bit less.

So I guess your voting should go to whether you prefer test matches or ODI's/
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on December 25, 2010, 12:17:31 AM
Concede a little less? Under a run difference ::)
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 25, 2010, 12:21:46 AM
How do they score more, when I have 20k more total runs?

Also, how did you work yours out CF? I'm not generally good at figuring out averages.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: CrowsFan on December 25, 2010, 12:26:38 AM
Quote from: Alex7089 on December 25, 2010, 12:17:31 AM
Concede a little less? Under a run difference ::)
Haha yes I know, but they did score more so they would still win.

Quote from: 8-6 Suited on December 25, 2010, 12:21:46 AM
How do they score more, when I have 20k more total runs?

Also, how did you work yours out CF? I'm not generally good at figuring out averages.
I would assume you have 20k more runs because your players have played a lot more matches.
Well for working out the team batting average I just added together each players average to get a score. And for runs conceded I added together the bowling average of the 5 bowlers and diveded that by 5 to get an average of how many runs would be conceded per wicket then multiplied by 5.

I voted for team 5 a while ago because I like the attacking instinct in the side, but after looking at the stats I would probably change my vote to team 4
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 25, 2010, 12:30:13 AM
Yeah I saw how you worked out how you got the bowling side but the batting side I was curious about.

I didn't think of doing it that way... Good thinking lol I made my team for test matches, a side I would ideally want to see playing tests. ODI's I have a nice side I believe but my strength quite clearly is tests, and aggression doesnt pay off much in tests unless its against Bangladesh. :p
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 29, 2010, 04:30:57 PM
cmon every 1 whjo hasnt voted vote
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: CrowsFan on December 29, 2010, 04:52:43 PM
It's been a week now hawka.
I think voting has now finished
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on December 29, 2010, 05:14:29 PM
no it says on the first thin it goes until the day after new yr
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: CrowsFan on December 29, 2010, 05:48:16 PM
Oh right.
I just assumed it was the same as the soccer one and that went for a week
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on December 29, 2010, 06:21:24 PM
Well there hasnt been a vote here for about 3-4 days so it may as well be closed anyway
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on January 01, 2011, 12:36:29 PM
Still no change now in the amount of votes so I guess its official.


I am ze champion.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: MTTY on January 01, 2011, 09:15:42 PM
Shaggy is once again the winner of the fantasy draft sports game
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on January 01, 2011, 09:37:38 PM
congrats shaggy the beta team prevails ;)
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on January 02, 2011, 01:59:56 PM
Quote from: MTTY on January 01, 2011, 09:15:42 PM
Shaggy is once again the winner of the fantasy draft sports game

No shower. I seem to win them all ahaha. :P



Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on January 02, 2011, 03:32:26 PM
would u win a darts 1 :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on January 02, 2011, 03:37:02 PM
I know absolutely nothing about darts lol
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on January 02, 2011, 03:40:55 PM
ur not alone
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: CrowsFan on January 02, 2011, 04:11:06 PM
A very modest winner we have here...
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on January 02, 2011, 05:42:36 PM
Indeed CF.

Would you win a gymnastics one Shaggy?
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on January 02, 2011, 06:03:26 PM
i know a couple of gymanist of the top of my head i thinm theres a chick with a first name lauren and i guy called phillp rizzo :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on January 02, 2011, 06:05:39 PM
How about ice skaters ? :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Hawka on January 02, 2011, 08:39:01 PM
dermie broke a leg ice satkiting ithink

is that good enof ;P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on January 02, 2011, 09:29:04 PM
Well obviously he is not good if he broke his leg ::)
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: CrowsFan on January 02, 2011, 09:35:07 PM
If we were doing an ice skating one I would pick Chazz Michael Michaels and Jimmy MacElroy with my first two picks ;)
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on January 03, 2011, 01:15:26 AM
Actually Alex, I think I would do absolutely fantastic in a Gymnastics one... Seeing as I dated an older woman who's 11yo daughter was one of the best prospects in Australian Youth Gymnastics until she shattered her tibia and fibia in a dismount. :P So watched a lot of it with her. :P

Ice Skating, no idea. Ice Hockey however and I would be a good chance I think.
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: CrowsFan on January 03, 2011, 01:22:40 AM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on January 03, 2011, 01:15:26 AM
Actually Alex, I think I would do absolutely fantastic in a Gymnastics one... Seeing as I dated an older woman who's 11yo daughter was one of the best prospects in Australian Youth Gymnastics until she shattered her tibia and fibia in a dismount. :P So watched a lot of it with her. :P

Ice Skating, no idea. Ice Hockey however and I would be a good chance I think.
No such bone as a fibia :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: 8-6 Suited on January 03, 2011, 01:23:25 AM
Fibula. I got carried away with the bia's. :P
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: CrowsFan on January 03, 2011, 01:27:19 AM
They are confusing.
I always used to mix up tibia and fibula and call them tibula and fibia.
But now doing health science I know pretty much all the bones
Title: Re: Who has created the best team from the cricket draft
Post by: Alex7089 on January 03, 2011, 02:32:13 AM
ALL the bones :o You bloody freak.