This is my team, would appreciate some comments or feedback, if you rate mine, I will rate yours.
DEF: B. Goddard (M), B. Gibbs (M), B. Deledio (M), G. Broughton, J. Drummond, J. Adcock, A. Otten
EMG: B. Jacobs (M), M. Coad, J. Toy
4 strong premiums, arguably a 5th in Drummo. Adcock and Otten should be bargains. Jacobs a gun with MPP bonus, GC defenders should go great.
MID: D. Swan, M. Boyd, M. Pavlich (F), D. Swallow, A. Gaff, D. Heppell (B)
EMG: I. Smith (F), M. Hibberd (B), T. Mzungu (F)
3/0/0/6 pretty standard. Lots of MPP rookies which is a bonus, however I did not pick them solely for this.
RUC: A. Sandilands, D. Petrie (F)
EMG Z. Smith, J. Jenkins
Very standard.
FWD: N. Riewoldt, L. Franklin, A. Didak (M), C. Rioli, C. Knights, D. Prestia (M), A. Krakouer (M)
EMG: Brandon Matera, J. Darling, C. Richardson
4 strong again, Knights great value, MPP rookies help.
CASH LEFT: $31,700
Defence is very risky but could come off id pefer to see one more solid player with a less of a injury risk
Midfield is decent i like anthony but foley take him but theres a massive risk in taking him.
Rucks are pretty standard, Petrie could be sub tho. If hes not then hes a good pick up
Forwards are great mainly due to the fact you spent so much on them. Not sold on Brown maybe better options. Maybe spend some of this money back on your defence
Overall a very high risk high reward team. Id like to see one of too of these injury plagued players out. Good rookies though
7.5/10
Quote from: Knowall on December 18, 2010, 07:16:30 PM
Defence is very risky but could come off id pefer to see one more solid player with a less of a injury risk
Midfield is decent i like anthony but foley take him but theres a massive risk in taking him.
Rucks are pretty standard, Petrie could be sub tho. If hes not then hes a good pick up
Forwards are great mainly due to the fact you spent so much on them. Not sold on Brown maybe better options. Maybe spend some of this money back on your defence
Overall a very high risk high reward team. Id like to see one of too of these injury plagued players out. Good rookies though
7.5/10
appreciate the advice.
the reason i am so premium heavy in the forwards is i believe that there are no where near as much cheap options in the forwards as there is in defence.
may change foley if he doesnt have a good preseason, if fit though he is very cheap for somebody of his calibre.
ultimately, its all about risks for me! gotta have some fun XD
The backs are a lot weaker than the rest of the team, but could pay off if your forwards fire. I think you should upgrade Adcock as you will have 2 lions in the backline.
Mids look good although you could downgrade one of Anthony or Foley to a rookie to free up money for the Adcock upgrade.
Rucks are the standard ruck combo. Looks fine, although I think Lycett will play more than Derickx.
Forwards almost look too strong. :P
They should be set and forget and not use up many trades.
I like the team. 8.99/10. ;D
thanks major.
yeah adcock isnt very popular, guess i have confidence in him and have always liked him as a player. if he isnt looking good preseason i will strongly consider doing the downgrade on foley and upgrade on him.
The 2 lions in the backline doesn't back up the decision to have him either.
yeah i know. just gotta hope everything works out i guess
i actually like this strategy, plenty of good cheap backs this year so you can capitalise on that and lock and leave fowards pretty much. good use of MPP.
9/10 :)
Quote from: mophead222 on December 18, 2010, 11:25:18 PM
i actually like this strategy, plenty of good cheap backs this year so you can capitalise on that and lock and leave fowards pretty much. good use of MPP.
9/10 :)
thanks mate.
returning the favour JT, i'll move onto mopheads next for a rating.
like the fact u have a stratedgy in place in regards to loading forwards and going economical in the backs. gee hasn't everyone been disappointed with adcock since he hit those big scores a few years ago when he got his debut. been injury struck since, but u even stated if they are FIT, they are in. so i won't criticise those picks as they are more or less a 50/50 pending decision anyway. as well as the 2 lions in defence, u also have the 2 hawks in the forwards. but i feel u there its hard to ignore buddy, and cyril has been hyped for a midfield role and looks to be having an non-interupted pre season which i don't think he has had for a while or ever. didak a dam good starter is super consistent, has he had pre season surgery??? shoulder or something? keep an eye out anyway. yea agree with others prob wouldn't start browndawg either
8.5/10 - if u didn't have 2 hawks and 2 lions on same line would be a 9
thanks torress, hopefully adcock can hold up over pre season
hey JT :P thanks 4 the rate b4.
think the team loooks good although i did like your old 1 better.
backs: look great very cheap although good. i like adcock to he will have a great year if he can stay away form injury. although i wouldnt be starting 2 brisbane backs.
mids: different setup. chappy and swan are great, gaff and swallow best rookies out. foley im not sold on yet, but wont bag people for having him. and anthony i cant see the point in having, he is coming back from a shoulder re-co and is in an awkward price range. i know he is a good player but he would have2 score 105+ for me to be happy. not worth wasting a trade on him.
rucks: no issues. watch out for petrie though, might be playing deep forward.
forwards: rock solid. perhaps you could even downgrade a premium and put prestia on the field.
JT, ill give it an 8.5
thanks maca would you recommend downgrading anthony to a rookie then upgrading elsewhere?
yes. you could put heppell on field for anthony and upgrade petrie to Jolly.
Hey JT; a fantastic team; i would rate it a 9.5 :D
Strong backs; don't know much about Adcock but you seem to. rest of them is good.
Interesting Midfield approach, though excellent.
With the rucks, wouldn't start with Petrie IMO, despite his price, because has HMAC by his side and there are just better ruckmens out there IMO such as Jolly, Ryder and Jamar.
Fantastic forward line! Only flaw i can find is both Matera and Prestia from GCU; try I.Smith or Butcher instead of Matera IMO...
-0.25 for lack of premiums, but not a mjor problem so only minused that;
-0.25 for Petrie point.
Luigi
thanks Luigi, the only problem IMO in trading Petrie is that i would have to downgrade elsewhere to get the likes of Jolly and Rider
Quote from: MajorLazer on December 18, 2010, 11:07:17 PM
The backs are a lot weaker than the rest of the team, but could pay off if your forwards fire. I think you should upgrade Adcock as you will have 2 lions in the backline.
Mids look good although you could downgrade one of Anthony or Foley to a rookie to free up money for the Adcock upgrade.
Rucks are the standard ruck combo. Looks fine, although I think Lycett will play more than Derickx.
Forwards almost look too strong. :P
They should be set and forget and not use up many trades.
I like the team. 8.99/10. ;D
Lol. All your rating are to two decimal places. ::)
Very nice team Junky! 8/10 but not as good as your first one. :P
Well Done
9 out of 10 mate looks pretty good, the midfield is pretty weak though, id try and spread some cash from your fowards to the midfield
Quote from: Junktimer on December 18, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
This is my new team, would appreciate some comments or feedback, if you rate mine, I will rate yours.
DEF: Brendon Goddard (M), Greg Broughton, Josh Drummond, Jed Adcock, Andy Otten, Ben Jacobs, Cameron Richardson
EMG: Michael Coad, Tendai Mzungu, Josh Toy
Not a premium heavy line, but very economical and all options there are good value with the exception of Goddard, but you gotta have him. Adcock and Drummond are locks with a good pre season and stay injury free and fit.
MID: Dane Swan, Paul Chapman (F), Liam Anthony, Nathan Foley, David Swallow, Andrew Gaff
EMG: Dyson Heppell (B), Shaun Atley, Andrew Krakouer
2/2/0/2. That seems to be the way to go with the starting midfield. Got Swanny, Chappy for MPP. Liam Anthony lock, along with Axel if he has a good pre season. Pretty happy with the cover on the bench too.
RUCK: Aaron Sandilands, Drew Petrie (F)
EMG: Tom Derickx, Zac Smith
Sandliands lock of all locks, Petrie great value. Derickx may change, that all depends on pre season.
FWD: Nick Riewoldt, Lance Franklin, Alan Didak (M), Matthew Pavlich (M), Jonathon Brown, Cyril Rioli, Chris Knights
EMG: Dion Prestia, Jack Darling, Brandon Matera
Really happy with that line. Not many mid priced forward options so went very premium heavy, Prestia on the bench is great cover. Knights a lock.
So there we go. A rate would be lovely.
1. Might want to consider 1 of Adcock or Drummond if you are going for overall.
2. I personally don't mind having 2 starting rooks in the defence as there is a lot of talent this year.
3. Good midfield MP is covered, big premium, 2 guys who will score 100's and make you money in Foley and Anthony, and the 2 IMO best rookies of SC this year probably with Prestia and Toy
4. Great rucks can't go wrong with Sandi, Petrie and Smith
5. One of the best forward lines i have seen, i belive that has to be strong as that is the area where i got burned last year.
Overall great team 9/10
Quote from: MTTY on December 19, 2010, 07:43:16 PM
Quote from: Junktimer on December 18, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
This is my new team, would appreciate some comments or feedback, if you rate mine, I will rate yours.
DEF: Brendon Goddard (M), Greg Broughton, Josh Drummond, Jed Adcock, Andy Otten, Ben Jacobs, Cameron Richardson
EMG: Michael Coad, Tendai Mzungu, Josh Toy
Not a premium heavy line, but very economical and all options there are good value with the exception of Goddard, but you gotta have him. Adcock and Drummond are locks with a good pre season and stay injury free and fit.
MID: Dane Swan, Paul Chapman (F), Liam Anthony, Nathan Foley, David Swallow, Andrew Gaff
EMG: Dyson Heppell (B), Shaun Atley, Andrew Krakouer
2/2/0/2. That seems to be the way to go with the starting midfield. Got Swanny, Chappy for MPP. Liam Anthony lock, along with Axel if he has a good pre season. Pretty happy with the cover on the bench too.
RUCK: Aaron Sandilands, Drew Petrie (F)
EMG: Tom Derickx, Zac Smith
Sandliands lock of all locks, Petrie great value. Derickx may change, that all depends on pre season.
FWD: Nick Riewoldt, Lance Franklin, Alan Didak (M), Matthew Pavlich (M), Jonathon Brown, Cyril Rioli, Chris Knights
EMG: Dion Prestia, Jack Darling, Brandon Matera
Really happy with that line. Not many mid priced forward options so went very premium heavy, Prestia on the bench is great cover. Knights a lock.
So there we go. A rate would be lovely.
1. Might want to consider 1 of Adcock or Drummond if you are going for overall.
2. I personally don't mind having 2 starting rooks in the defence as there is a lot of talent this year.
3. Good midfield MP is covered, big premium, 2 guys who will score 100's and make you money in Foley and Anthony, and the 2 IMO best rookies of SC this year probably with Prestia and Toy
4. Great rucks can't go wrong with Sandi, Petrie and Smith
5. One of the best forward lines i have seen, i belive that has to be strong as that is the area where i got burned last year.
Overall great team 9/10
thanks for the feedback sinclair and MTTY
made big changes, please review your rate, I would be more than happy to re-rate any of your team's changes. Should I go Knights or Petrie as the 7th forward?
Cheers, JT
I like the look of this team alot.. my only suggestions would be to downgrade one of your forward premiums(possibly Brown, given his injury history) and then get one better guy in the backline. Also the Foley and Anthony combination could be too much of a risk.
yeah i got rid of the foley anthony combo for two premiums. fair call on browny i just love him really. dont really wanna upgrade the backline either as i feel they are all very economical.
cheers for the advice sc addict
9/10. Very nice, but i dont know anything bout broughton, will he perform again?
same midfield as me ;), it is a great midfield
backs same as i wrote before.
rucks same as before.
forward line is a winner.
9.5/10
Quote from: Junktimer on December 18, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
This is my new team, would appreciate some comments or feedback, if you rate mine, I will rate yours.
DEF: Brendon Goddard (M), Greg Broughton, Josh Drummond, Jed Adcock, Andy Otten, Ben Jacobs, Cameron Richardson
EMG: Michael Coad, Tendai Mzungu, Josh Toy
Not a premium heavy line, but very economical and all options there are good value with the exception of Goddard, but you gotta have him. Adcock and Drummond are locks with a good pre season and stay injury free and fit.
MID: Dane Swan, Matthew Boyd, Andrew Swallow, David Swallow, Andrew Gaff, Dyson Heppell (B)
EMG: Josh Green, Andrew Krakouer, Dylan McNeil (F)
3/0/0/6 That seems to be the way to go with the starting midfield. Got MPP, and Boydo and Swallow brothers should go great. Pretty happy with the cover on the bench too.
RUCK: Aaron Sandilands, Darren Jolly
EMG: Zac Smith, Majak Daw (F)
Set and forget line. Daw there for MPP with Petrie.
FWD: Nick Riewoldt, Lance Franklin, Alan Didak (M), Matthew Pavlich (M), Jonathon Brown, Cyril Rioli, Drew Petrie (R)
EMG: Dion Prestia, Jack Darling, Brandon Matera
Really happy with that line. Not many mid priced forward options so went very premium heavy, Prestia on the bench is great cover. Petrie a lock.
So there we go. A rate would be lovely.
$29k left.
Oh and one question: who would you go, Petrie or Knights?
Great updated team!! 9.5 / 10 !! :D
i just can't rate it a 10 yet because of your Mids; they're really good though; though are really risky with 3 starting rookies, i would go 2... idk how to fix it... but yea, just not quite a 10 yet for me ;D
Luigi
thanks for the advice fellas.
1. I think Broughton in his 3rd year will dominate BB
2. I went with three rookies in the mids due to the talent in this years draft
Very good team all round but don't like brown in there. Having both Drummond and Adcock is ok if your going for league but if your going for overall it could hurt you same with Franklin & Rioli but you have good MPP cover so it's not too much of a worry. 9/10 :)
thanks BOOMZ, I like Brown, but who would you trade him for?
I'd say Thomas or Sidebottom but then theres Didak so that probably wouldn't work...
super sloid team JT just wondering how many upgrades u think u need?
I`d go Knights personally Junky.
thanks marcz will play it by ear, will probably be 5-9 to upgrades, just gotta wait and see.
thanks barlow
Solid side mate, but i reckon your to forward heavy, id try and spread the cash around and get maybe hodge or kelly in your backline
I agree with most of the feedback, I think starting 3 rookies in the back (and I count Otten as a rookie) is way too risky. Especially with 3 rookies in the centre line, meaning you're starting 6 rookies out of 22.
Having said that is a very solid, and unique, team and I always applaud that
thanks ossie, tend to disagree with otten's "rookie status"
this is 4th year in the system this year
True, but if Robert Campbell, Robert Eddy and Mitch Hahn can look the AFL in the eyes and call themselves rookies.... (lol)
Yeah, I know it's different, but Otten hasn't proven himself yet in my eyes :) And of course that's all that counts :P
Junky great team mate. think the backs are just a tad weak.
if you can upgrade adcock to hurn or waite maybe...
9.5 outta ten. :) not much 2say :) i have loved all your teams.
Nice solid line up Junktimer
Backs a tad on the weak side but you are happy with that so your call just think there may be one too many coming back from injury...
Solid 9/10
thanks piggers and maca
yeah my backline is a tad risky but thats what SC is all about i guess
Good looking team JT! Figured that you've put in the hard yards and given me (and everyone else) some terrific info on the site so I've given your team my most comprehensive analysis. Here are my thoughts:
Backs: kudos for the economical backline structure - your original team was the one that convinced me to spend big elsewhere because there are just so many good cheap options in the backs. Adcock is a great buy at that price. Otten is not a rookie, he's a must have that will give everyone 22 games at a very good clip. Though Jacobs is highly rated, i would be more inclined to go with any one of the 87k rookies you suggested in JT's take - the mature bodies of puopolo or duigan come to mind - They should give similar results for 50k less. If you want less risk, i'd go Broughton -> Deledio simply for durability as you're counting on 4 backmen who could be considered injury prone or returning from LTI. Clearly your weakest line, but as i said, money is better spent elsewhere and the rest of your team will easily make up for it.
Mids: Gun, Gun, Gun, then rookies seems to be a popular strategy. Andrew Swallow has recently made his way into my fanplanner and gee he looks good in there. I've heard good things about Claye Beams in preseason and he or J. Green should be solid picks. McNeil will be handy here but as a crows man i've watched Callinan play, and he is pure silk. Will almost certainly get games and from all accounts, so will McNeil, so either should be safe bets for MPP. Side note: I also recently did a sneaky rookie upgrade that the spare 29k you've got allows you to do as well.....Gaff -> Shuey. Food for thought
Rucks: Yes everyone wants set and forget rucks, but picking the right 2 from the start is bloody hard. Jolly is a massive risk in my opinion. Petrie has been consistently better than him for years and if he can stay fit and average 85-95 then i can't see him being upgraded. Barring any untoward circumstances, I will be having Sandi/Petrie as my set and forget... and pocketing the 170k.
Forwards: Simply elite line. Only concern would be picking didak from the start as he is recovering from shoulder surgery. I know how you stand on goodes but read my section on his player profile and see what you think. At the end of the day, both will be good picks. Oh and dilemma solved if you get petrie in the ruck, as knights takes the 7th forward spot.
Haven't given anyone a 10 yet, but this would be close. End of rate
Quote from: LiveTheDream on December 22, 2010, 12:06:16 PM
Good looking team JT! Figured that you've put in the hard yards and given me (and everyone else) some terrific info on the site so I've given your team my most comprehensive analysis. Here are my thoughts:
Backs: kudos for the economical backline structure - your original team was the one that convinced me to spend big elsewhere because there are just so many good cheap options in the backs. Adcock is a great buy at that price. Otten is not a rookie, he's a must have that will give everyone 22 games at a very good clip. Though Jacobs is highly rated, i would be more inclined to go with any one of the 87k rookies you suggested in JT's take - the mature bodies of puopolo or duigan come to mind - They should give similar results for 50k less. If you want less risk, i'd go Broughton -> Deledio simply for durability as you're counting on 4 backmen who could be considered injury prone or returning from LTI. Clearly your weakest line, but as i said, money is better spent elsewhere and the rest of your team will easily make up for it.
Mids: Gun, Gun, Gun, then rookies seems to be a popular strategy. Andrew Swallow has recently made his way into my fanplanner and gee he looks good in there. I've heard good things about Claye Beams in preseason and he or J. Green should be solid picks. McNeil will be handy here but as a crows man i've watched Callinan play, and he is pure silk. Will almost certainly get games and from all accounts, so will McNeil, so either should be safe bets for MPP. Side note: I also recently did a sneaky rookie upgrade that the spare 29k you've got allows you to do as well.....Gaff -> Shuey. Food for thought
Rucks: Yes everyone wants set and forget rucks, but picking the right 2 from the start is bloody hard. Jolly is a massive risk in my opinion. Petrie has been consistently better than him for years and if he can stay fit and average 85-95 then i can't see him being upgraded. Barring any untoward circumstances, I will be having Sandi/Petrie as my set and forget... and pocketing the 170k.
Forwards: Simply elite line. Only concern would be picking didak from the start as he is recovering from shoulder surgery. I know how you stand on goodes but read my section on his player profile and see what you think. At the end of the day, both will be good picks. Oh and dilemma solved if you get petrie in the ruck, as knights takes the 7th forward spot.
Haven't given anyone a 10 yet, but this would be close. End of rate
great stuff ltd, will take a lot of that on board. thanks.
hey guys, made a few trades. tell me what you think.
DEF: Goddard >>>> Gibbs
Broughton >>>> Deledio
MID: Boyd >>>> Goddard
A. Swallow >>>> Pavlich
J.Green >>>> Atley
FWD: Pavlich >>>> Green
Overall Broughton, Boyd, A.Swallow and J.Green for Gibbs, Deledio, Green and Atley.
Now i also have much more MPP to move with. tell me what you think please.
I agree with all of them except the Swallow/Green/Pavlich one and would really just leave that how it was but thats just me.
ok, would you have swallow or boyd?
Boyd
ok BOOMZ to undo that trade i would also need to downgrade atley, the only reason i did that trade btw is for more MPP options.
Yeah I can see the benefits... Swallow over boyd imo.
Nice team JT.
Like the little risks in the backline. Drummond and Adcock in the same team could be good but alot of an injury past between the two ;).
Nice use of MPP with the midfield. Would steer clear of McNeil at the start. Don't need more than 1 at the start. Maybe downgrade to him later in the year as I doubt he'd play early (if at all).
Solid Rucks.
Very stacked Forwards. Went with 5 strong last season and didn't pan out :'(. Hopefully it's different next year for you.
I prefer Petrie to Knights as Knights is more of a DT player while Petrie is much more proven in his scoring.
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 23, 2010, 12:44:28 AM
Nice team JT.
Like the little risks in the backline. Drummond and Adcock in the same team could be good but alot of an injury past between the two ;).
Nice use of MPP with the midfield. Would steer clear of McNeil at the start. Don't need more than 1 at the start. Maybe downgrade to him later in the year as I doubt he'd play early (if at all).
Solid Rucks.
Very stacked Forwards. Went with 5 strong last season and didn't pan out :'(. Hopefully it's different next year for you.
I prefer Petrie to Knights as Knights is more of a DT player while Petrie is much more proven in his scoring.
thanks HP.
out of interest, who were your 5 premium forwards? fev ;)
The ol Fev will be there to haunt him for a longgggggggggggggggggggg time
traded Jolly for Petrie.
with that extra cash should I get Sylvia in the forward line or upgrade josh green to nathan foley, allowing heppell to go to the bench
Hey Junktimer whats the go.... i see you tell peeps to trade Sylvia including myself too Sidebottom and now you have Sylvia in your team and not sidebottom!!!?
what your reasoning for this change of heart?
Maybe wants him all to himself lo most probably a change of heart tho
Quote from: Junktimer on December 23, 2010, 02:12:07 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 23, 2010, 12:44:28 AM
Nice team JT.
Like the little risks in the backline. Drummond and Adcock in the same team could be good but alot of an injury past between the two ;).
Nice use of MPP with the midfield. Would steer clear of McNeil at the start. Don't need more than 1 at the start. Maybe downgrade to him later in the year as I doubt he'd play early (if at all).
Solid Rucks.
Very stacked Forwards. Went with 5 strong last season and didn't pan out :'(. Hopefully it's different next year for you.
I prefer Petrie to Knights as Knights is more of a DT player while Petrie is much more proven in his scoring.
thanks HP.
out of interest, who were your 5 premium forwards? fev ;)
Nah, Fev was a downgrade end of year when he dropped below 200k :P. What a good cover he made ::).
Roo, Pav, Higgins, ROK and Chappy. Chappy and Pav were probably the best of the lot from them ::).
Quote from: Hippo on December 23, 2010, 04:15:24 PM
Hey Junktimer whats the go.... i see you tell peeps to trade Sylvia including myself too Sidebottom and now you have Sylvia in your team and not sidebottom!!!?
what your reasoning for this change of heart?
sorry hippo. i was just suggesting, guess i may have contradicted myself a bit there. im not sure what to do yet. sylvia might not be too bad..
i edited my rate of your team. i just think sylvia might not be too bad after all.
it was a change of heart, either would be fine. i didnt go sidey as i have too many Pies
1.I am a big fan of the cheap defence i reckon it will pay off.
2.Good line not a big fan of Brad Green this year though, i would go with either a rookie, foley or anthony.
3.Great rucks
4.Great forward line just make sure Browns up and running in nab.
overall 9.5/10
My only concern is that you are now forced to keep a forward premium in your midfield. I would swap didak with green and then upgrade him to swallow, boyd, bartel or jack.
I can almost guarantee that didak will fall in price - this year he only had one round above his starting price and dropped around 100k during some stages. Especially coming off surgery, i'd leave him out. The lions will be a joke this year so in that case I would still take goodes over brown, but thats just me. Apart from that it looks good
trade sylvia for side ass. good move?
Yes. Good move. ;D
Quote from: LiveTheDream on December 24, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
My only concern is that you are now forced to keep a forward premium in your midfield. I would swap didak with green and then upgrade him to swallow, boyd, bartel or jack.
I can almost guarantee that didak will fall in price - this year he only had one round above his starting price and dropped around 100k during some stages. Especially coming off surgery, i'd leave him out. The lions will be a joke this year so in that case I would still take goodes over brown, but thats just me. Apart from that it looks good
sorry, dont quite follow that part. elaborate?
*Assuming you're going for overall win
R4 - 5 players out (2 in backline + goddard so your mpp can't be used) would do well not to cop a 0 in that round
R5 - 1 player (perfect)
R6 - 4 prems (might cop a 0, definitely lose a lot of points)
-.5/-1 for this
-.5 for doubling up on mpp forwards/backs in your midfield (mainly deducting for having two forwards though - the heppell/godd combo in mids isn't too important since hepp is on your bench)
The reason I'm deducting is because you've got pav and didak in your mids for mpp right...you only need one of them in your fwd line then you can have a mid premium in their place. I'd trade Pav for someone like Boak or someone, then trade brown for pav. That way you still keep mpp with fwd/ctr and you have the opportunity to include a prem with upside in your midfield, whereas pav and didak have little upside.
Could potentially - another .5 for having 3 brisbane players (since brisbane have both of their byes in non-playing weeks...although you'll probably have upgraded adcock by then and drummond will probably be injured by then) So I'm not sure if it's fair to deduct points for that.
9/10 at best
8/10 being harsh
Liked one of your earlier teams a bit better (but that was from first glance and not an in depth analysis)
Hope that helped :)
Quote from: tferrier18 on December 26, 2010, 03:07:22 AM
*Assuming you're going for overall win
R4 - 5 players out (2 in backline + goddard so your mpp can't be used) would do well not to cop a 0 in that round
R5 - 1 player (perfect)
R6 - 4 prems (might cop a 0, definitely lose a lot of points)
-.5/-1 for this
-.5 for doubling up on mpp forwards/backs in your midfield (mainly deducting for having two forwards though - the heppell/godd combo in mids isn't too important since hepp is on your bench)
The reason I'm deducting is because you've got pav and didak in your mids for mpp right...you only need one of them in your fwd line then you can have a mid premium in their place. I'd trade Pav for someone like Boak or someone, then trade brown for pav. That way you still keep mpp with fwd/ctr and you have the opportunity to include a prem with upside in your midfield, whereas pav and didak have little upside.
Could potentially - another .5 for having 3 brisbane players (since brisbane have both of their byes in non-playing weeks...although you'll probably have upgraded adcock by then and drummond will probably be injured by then) So I'm not sure if it's fair to deduct points for that.
9/10 at best
8/10 being harsh
Liked one of your earlier teams a bit better (but that was from first glance and not an in depth analysis)
Hope that helped :)
thanks for the advice.
i dont think 5 byes in round 4 will matter too much as I have a great amount of MPP movement available.
My attitude with having Dids and Pav in the middle is they are both good enough midfielders in their own right, and the MPP is just a bonus. To say they have little upside IMO is unfair, as they scored 23 centuries this year between them (dids 13, pav 10).
taken some advice and traded jono brown for matty boyd. was able to do it through MPP
Quote from: Junktimer on December 18, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
This is my new team, would appreciate some comments or feedback, if you rate mine, I will rate yours.
DEF: Bryce Gibbs (M), Brett Deledio (M), Josh Drummond, Jed Adcock, Andy Otten, Ben Jacobs, Cameron Richardson
EMG: Michael Coad, Tendai Mzungu, Josh Toy
Not a premium heavy line, but very economical and all options there are good value. Adcock and Drummond are locks with a good pre season and stay injury free and fit.
MID: Brendon Goddard (B), Dane Swan, Matthew Boyd, Matthew Pavlich (F), David Swallow, Andrew Gaff
EMG: Dyson Heppell (B), Andrew Krakouer, Ian Callinan (F)
3/0/0/6 That seems to be the way to go with the starting midfield. Got MPP, and Boydo and Swallow brothers should go great. Pretty happy with the cover on the bench too.
RUCK: Aaron Sandilands, Drew Petrie (F)
EMG: Max Bailey, Zac Smith
Pretty Standard.
FWD: Nick Riewoldt, Lance Franklin, Alan Didak (M), Brad Green (M), Cyril Rioli, Steele Sidebottom (M), Dion Prestia
EMG: Jack Darling, Brandon Matera, Andrew Hooper
Really happy with that line. Not many mid priced forward options so went very premium heavy.
So there we go. A rate would be lovely.
$3k left lol.
Quote from: Junktimer on December 26, 2010, 10:26:12 AM
taken some advice and traded jono brown for matty boyd. was able to do it through MPP
Yes very good move! You have now addressed my concern and solved that problem, but I elaborated quickly below so hopefully we are on the same page.
Because you had 6 premium forwards + pavlich and green in the middle you essentially have 8 premium forwards in your team. This would mean that come the end of the season you would be forced to play pav/green etc. in the midfield and may lose a few points here or there. Not a big issue by any means if you have 22 premiums on the field but it may mean that you have a player averaging 95-100 in the midfield instead of someone averaging 110+.
But brown to boyd through mpp is a great trade
ooooh i get ya. yeah 8 forwards is very iffy.
junky great team mate.
backs: Still dont like 2 brisbane backs but the rest is great.
mids: great with good MPP.
rucks: great. im back on the petrie wagon :P he frees up so much cash.
forwards: amazing.
Junky its a 9.55. great team.
could you plz rate my team again as i just made some big edits 2day.
pyro thinks its a 10 :o lol
Quote from: Maca24 on December 26, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
junky great team mate.
backs: Still dont like 2 brisbane backs but the rest is great.
mids: great with good MPP.
rucks: great. im back on the petrie wagon :P he frees up so much cash.
forwards: amazing.
Junky its a 9.55. great team.
could you plz rate my team again as i just made some big edits 2day.
pyro thinks its a 10 :o lol
i dug myself into a hole when u rated your other team 9.5, that team was better so i had to give it 10 :P it is a fantastic looking team though ;)
:P lol i no u did. thanks pyro it goes alrite :)
Quote from: Maca24 on December 26, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
junky great team mate.
backs: Still dont like 2 brisbane backs but the rest is great.
mids: great with good MPP.
rucks: great. im back on the petrie wagon :P he frees up so much cash.
forwards: amazing.
Junky its a 9.55. great team.
could you plz rate my team again as i just made some big edits 2day.
pyro thinks its a 10 :o lol
thanks maca ill get to it now.
good to see you back on the petrie train
lol yes :) my reasoning is that getting petrie frees up 200k and i think that players like kreuzer, ryder, cox, mumford will drop heaps early and will be good straight swaps. petrie to mumford for 50K would be fantastic.
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 23, 2010, 05:51:45 PM
Quote from: Junktimer on December 23, 2010, 02:12:07 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on December 23, 2010, 12:44:28 AM
Nice team JT.
Like the little risks in the backline. Drummond and Adcock in the same team could be good but alot of an injury past between the two ;).
Nice use of MPP with the midfield. Would steer clear of McNeil at the start. Don't need more than 1 at the start. Maybe downgrade to him later in the year as I doubt he'd play early (if at all).
Solid Rucks.
Very stacked Forwards. Went with 5 strong last season and didn't pan out :'(. Hopefully it's different next year for you.
I prefer Petrie to Knights as Knights is more of a DT player while Petrie is much more proven in his scoring.
thanks HP.
out of interest, who were your 5 premium forwards? fev ;)
Nah, Fev was a downgrade end of year when he dropped below 200k :P. What a good cover he made ::).
Roo, Pav, Higgins, ROK and Chappy. Chappy and Pav were probably the best of the lot from them ::).
lol dom the fev trade f****d my team up :'(
well to be honest i cant really find much wrong =)
youve done a great job with this obviously put time and effort into it.
couple of players im not sure on but hey, its a knew year knew begining.
i give it a 9/10 good job man!
cheers chris, ive rated your team yeah?
done a couple of trades.
prestia out for lamb (earn some money)
sidebottom out for gilbert
thoughts?
The backline looks a bit weak for my liking. Having 2 midpricers and then 2 rookies starting is very risky and I don't think it's worth it. If you want to keep the MPP, put Goddard in the backs (replacing one of your rookies or midpricers) and get Heppell starting in your mids and have a 3/0/0/6 structure. Then you can get another midfielder like J.Green on your bench.
I like Boyd in your mids. Is a unique premium that can score very nicely.
Rucks are standard as you have said, they are fine.
Forwards look good and I understand starting Lamb, as I have had to do that for extra money. Not sure on Gilbert, but if he's MPP he's a viable option.
I rate the team an 8.956/10. :)
thanks major would you go Prestia and Sidebottom or Gilbert and Lamb?
Personally I would go Sidey and Prestia.
ok cause thats what i had before, I'll change it back
Yer that is a good idea. Sidey should improve and Prestia looks the goods right now.
Quote from: MajorLazer on December 30, 2010, 02:01:54 PM
Yer that is a good idea. Sidey should improve and Prestia looks the goods right now.
+1 personally i would even consider going sidey prestia and gilbert :P
cant really fit all 3 in pyro, but that would be good.
yea go for sidey and prestia. think prestia will be better than lamb by 25+ ppg.
Top team there Junktimer.
Is having 2/3 backline bench GC a worry?
I would take Sylvia over Green, that's me though. More of a risk with Sylvia though.
9.2/10
thanks oodmutler
yeah, having GC 2/3 backline in round 9 will hurt, but hopefully it will be ok.
Your backline looks fine. You'd hope that your players aren't injured by round 9.
cheers major, hopefully i can upgrade the rookies by rnd 9
You should be able to upgrade one of them by then.
where do you find this years sc prices? ???
TOMI5 if you go on the main site you shoud find the fanplanner link, that has all the predicted prices.
rate my team?
Not sold on the backline, with 3 guys coming back from very serious injuries.
yep, thats the risk im taking. luckily they are economical and thus i can afford the big guns elsewhere.
Quote from: tom_scully on January 02, 2011, 10:56:22 PM
Not sold on the backline, with 3 guys coming back from very serious injuries.
It was a little like that last year with reduced price backs returning from injuries in Malceski, Waters, Hunt, Ladson, Kennelly etc.
I believe it is better taking a risk on them then picking up a consistent 50-60 ave player for a similar price.
Quote from: oodmutler on January 03, 2011, 01:38:19 AM
Quote from: tom_scully on January 02, 2011, 10:56:22 PM
Not sold on the backline, with 3 guys coming back from very serious injuries.
It was a little like that last year with reduced price backs returning from injuries in Malceski, Waters, Hunt, Ladson, Kennelly etc.
I believe it is better taking a risk on them then picking up a consistent 50-60 ave player for a similar price.
So do I. Even if 1 of them averages 75-80 and the others average 40-50, you're better off.
Spot on Major! 8)
Well you know the saying. Great minds go for Hawthorn. ;D
I like that saying!
Some figures re a couple of the above mentioned players from 2010.
Malceski: Starting price tag $273k, Peaked at $512k, Closing price $350k (he had a shocker final month) Season Ave: 96.41 pts
J.Hunt: Starting price tag $252k, Peaked at $365k, Closing price $357k, Season Ave: 72.48 pts
B.Waters: Starting price tag $151k, Peaked at $415k, Closing price $392k, Season Ave: 82.14 pts
Food for thought.
I had the last 2 guys in my team. Had the Goose instead of Eski. Poor trading meant I was stuck with Hunt though. :(
oodmutler if those guys can do that I'll be very happy
Quote from: oodmutler on January 03, 2011, 02:27:36 AM
I like that saying!
Some figures re a couple of the above mentioned players from 2010.
Malceski: Starting price tag $273k, Peaked at $512k, Closing price $350k (he had a shocker final month) Season Ave: 96.41 pts
J.Hunt: Starting price tag $252k, Peaked at $365k, Closing price $357k, Season Ave: 72.48 pts
B.Waters: Starting price tag $151k, Peaked at $415k, Closing price $392k, Season Ave: 82.14 pts
Food for thought.
These 3 players last year cost 676k total, Drummond, Adcock and Otten will cost you 957k. Thats a lot more money and therefore risk, probably expect the same avgs for an extra 300k.
Quote from: oodmutler on January 03, 2011, 02:27:36 AM
I like that saying!
Some figures re a couple of the above mentioned players from 2010.
Malceski: Starting price tag $273k, Peaked at $512k, Closing price $350k (he had a shocker final month) Season Ave: 96.41 pts
J.Hunt: Starting price tag $252k, Peaked at $365k, Closing price $357k, Season Ave: 72.48 pts
B.Waters: Starting price tag $151k, Peaked at $415k, Closing price $392k, Season Ave: 82.14 pts
Food for thought.
i had them all
if you look at it the other way tom scully, they cost more, but that means they also will probably do better.
Quote from: Junktimer on January 03, 2011, 09:04:32 PM
if you look at it the other way tom scully, they cost more, but that means they also will probably do better.
Maybe, but Drummond avgs 93, Adcock 83 and Otten 72 in SC, pretty much the same as the three previously mentioned. If all 3 happen to hit their peak season avg, then you're on to a winner.
Big fan of this uniquish team
1.Backs are great and a lot of money can be made off them, Jacobs reminds me of Goddard, in the way he can play D/M/F
2.Good line Pav in there i think will be a good unique if people pay attention to the bye like tferrier has said
3.Good soild rucks cant go wrong with that combo
4.Good forwards my only concern is 2 Collingwood players but they do have MPP so that might cover.
All together one of the better teams i have seen on here 9.5/10
thanks MTTY ;)
i dont see any weaknesses, 9.5/10 :)
Backs are good with most of the players probably getting midfield time at some stage this year, A.Otten should be in every team this year, he is an absoulute gun.
I like the midfield, probably the same as most people will go for,
but not sure I.Callian is guaranteed games with proven peformer porpliza but if he does will be a great pick up.
Rucks is pretty much same as midfield, most people will go for Sandilands+petrie combo this year, but by far are the best choices.
As you said very heavily stacked foward line, should be realiable and give you strong scores, dont know if having D.Prestia and B.Matera in the same team is a good idea both having the bye in round one???
I still like this team
9/10 :)
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on January 04, 2011, 12:45:36 PM
i dont see any weaknesses, 9.5/10 :)
How did he lose 0.5 then? ;D
good point tom scully :)
thanks TOMI5
Def go for Steele not Gilbert.
Quote from: TOM15 on January 05, 2011, 01:29:04 PM
Backs are good with most of the players probably getting midfield time at some stage this year, A.Otten should be in every team this year, he is an absoulute gun.
I like the midfield, probably the same as most people will go for,
but not sure I.Callian is guaranteed games with proven peformer porpliza but if he does will be a great pick up.
Rucks is pretty much same as midfield, most people will go for Sandilands+petrie combo this year, but by far are the best choices.
As you said very heavily stacked foward line, should be realiable and give you strong scores, dont know if having D.Prestia and B.Matera in the same team is a good idea both having the bye in round one???
I still like this team
9/10 :)
hmm yes i agree, but i think jolly is a better scorer imo.
Sidebottom is listed in the prospectus as mid only (not MPP). For info.
sidebottom and prestia combo OF COURSE imo... ;D
Quote from: Luigi197 on January 15, 2011, 10:36:20 PM
sidebottom and prestia combo OF COURSE imo... ;D
yes!
nooo sidebottom :'(
Quote from: 4820 on January 15, 2011, 06:52:51 PM
Sidebottom is listed in the prospectus as mid only (not MPP). For info.
thanks 4820,
team updated immensely
updates looks VERy good. myne is better though :P http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,24002.0.html