First round done and dusted, Who are the guys to get next year so far?
Definitely won't be bothering with any of the KPP rookies that were picked top 10 and will be expensive.
Liam stocker is the lock for me so far. Wanted him at Richmond but at Carlton makes him a lock in my SC team with his ready made body.
Who else do you like for a start from round 1?
I know ya said you won't be picking the KPPs but I reckon Lukosius won't be a bad pick. he should play all over the ground taking marks everywhere. expensive though so that's gotta be taken into account
Quote from: Bill Manspeaker on November 22, 2018, 11:26:34 PM
I know ya said you won't be picking the KPPs but I reckon Lukosius won't be a bad pick. he should play all over the ground taking marks everywhere. expensive though so that's gotta be taken into account
It just makes it an easy decision for me not to go there when there will be mids available for 100k cheaper
Definitely not touching any of the expensive rookies, and with this particular draft I reckon we should have enough cheap rookies to chose from
Jackson Hately (MID) went at Pick 14, which means he should be approx 144k and at that price he's a lock if he lines up R1. Everyone from Pick 15 on will be cheap, and these are the guys I would think are chances of potentially playing early next year
Liam Stocker (MID)
Jordan Clark (DEF)
Xavier Duursma (DEF/MID)
Ely Smith (MID)
Ian Hill (MID/FWD)
Rhylee West (MID)
Connor McFayden (MID/FWD)
Luke Valente (MID)
That's just a few - there will be players picked later, plus I'm sure a few from the rookie/PSD draft aka 102k players might pop up too
Might be jumping the gun, but GnR could be a real option next year, for the first time in years
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 22, 2018, 11:45:45 PM
Definitely not touching any of the expensive rookies, and with this particular draft I reckon we should have enough cheap rookies to chose from
Jackson Hately (MID) went at Pick 14, which means he should be approx 144k and at that price he's a lock if he lines up R1. Everyone from Pick 15 on will be cheap, and these are the guys I would think are chances of potentially playing early next year
Liam Stocker (MID)
Jordan Clark (DEF)
Xavier Duursma (DEF/MID)
Ely Smith (MID)
Ian Hill (MID/FWD)
Rhylee West (MID)
Connor McFayden (MID/FWD)
Luke Valente (MID)
That's just a few - there will be players picked later, plus I'm sure a few from the rookie/PSD draft aka 102k players might pop up too
Might be jumping the gun, but GnR could be a real option next year, for the first time in years
GnR definitely looking a real possibility.
Consider the guys already picked up before tonight too and returning from injury
S.Collins (GC)
J.Scrimshaw (Haw)
T.Williamson (Car)
H.Wigg (GC)
W.Setterfield (Car)
C.Burgess (GC)
J.Corbett (GC)
A bit early for me to be picking rookies ;D but the cheaper ones seem to be the way to go , players like Ellis and Miles going to the GC might be better value than the expensive first year guys but till prices are out you're probably better off just having a beer for now ;)
15 mature-agers picked up in the draft. We could be blessed for options come Round 1!
Quote from: shaker on November 23, 2018, 05:17:30 PM
A bit early for me to be picking rookies ;D but the cheaper ones seem to be the way to go , players like Ellis and Miles going to the GC might be better value than the expensive first year guys but till prices are out you're probably better off just having a beer for now ;)
Very interested in seeing Team Picker for price and position of Corey Ellis, and also extremely interested in that beer you mentioned. Cheers.
;)
Adelaide's 1st pick chayce jones is a gun. Seen him play before
Harley Bennell, $167,700 mid. Could he possibly not be a turd and play some footy?
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on December 07, 2018, 05:29:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 23, 2018, 05:17:30 PM
A bit early for me to be picking rookies ;D but the cheaper ones seem to be the way to go , players like Ellis and Miles going to the GC might be better value than the expensive first year guys but till prices are out you're probably better off just having a beer for now ;)
Very interested in seeing Team Picker for price and position of Corey Ellis, and also extremely interested in that beer you mentioned. Cheers.
;)
In case you missed prices Ellis is Def/MId at 233k So could be a nice pick up.
Quote from: quinny88 on December 13, 2018, 05:09:47 PM
Harley Bennell, $167,700 mid. Could he possibly not be a turd and play some footy?
M9 loophole for the season? :P
I'm finding F4 to be quite a difficult position to fill, especially due to the fact that I've put a line through Greene for now
I really despise starting expensive rookies, but at this stage I think Rozee and Burgess are strong chances to line up Round 1, so I'm thinking Rozee F4 and Burgess down back could be a nice play, as they both have DEF/FWD DPP and can be switched between the two spots
Rozee F4 Setterfield F5 does have a reliable feel to it
Thoughts?
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 23, 2018, 11:15:39 AM
I'm finding F4 to be quite a difficult position to fill, especially due to the fact that I've put a line through Greene for now
I really despise starting expensive rookies, but at this stage I think Rozee and Burgess are strong chances to line up Round 1, so I'm thinking Rozee F4 and Burgess down back could be a nice play, as they both have DEF/FWD DPP and can be switched between the two spots
Rozee F4 Setterfield F5 does have a reliable feel to it
Thoughts?
Depends who you have F6-8 haha. I'm sticking with Toby for now. Will make a decision early next year on him.
Anyone expecting Burgess to line up Round 1 is gonna have a bad time.
Quote from: Nige on December 23, 2018, 11:46:33 AM
Anyone expecting Burgess to line up Round 1 is gonna have a bad time.
He's not a lock by any means, but he's certainly a chance, just as much as most of the other cheap defender options available atm
Speaking of defensive rookies
I reckon we could be left with slim pickings come Rd1. I'm really struggling to see what def rookies are actually a chance of playing
Might be forced to go deep down back, or look at some risky mid pricers :-\
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 23, 2018, 02:05:49 PM
Speaking of defensive rookies
I reckon we could be left with slim pickings come Rd1. I'm really struggling to see what def rookies are actually a chance of playing
Might be forced to go deep down back, or look at some risky mid pricers :-\
Absolutely no point worrying about it now mate. Teams have injuries and unknown rookies have huge preseasons and jump into contention.
Quote from: Ricochet on December 23, 2018, 05:36:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 23, 2018, 02:05:49 PM
Speaking of defensive rookies
I reckon we could be left with slim pickings come Rd1. I'm really struggling to see what def rookies are actually a chance of playing
Might be forced to go deep down back, or look at some risky mid pricers :-\
Absolutely no point worrying about it now mate. Teams have injuries and unknown rookies have huge preseasons and jump into contention.
exactamundo
He's not a rookie, but priced liked one
This guy must be so sh!t when it comes to handling alcohol lmao
Troubled Fremantle midfielder Harley Bennell’s future hangs in the balance after another alcohol-fuelled indiscretion.
The West Australian has reported Bennell was asked to leave a Cottesloe hotel on Sunday for being too intoxicated.
Fremantle confirmed the incident, which occurred at the Ocean Beach Hotel just after 7pm.
“The club is aware that Harley Bennell was asked to leave a licensed venue in Cottesloe on Sunday and complied with the request to do so,†Dockers general manager of football Peter Bell told the West Australian.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 01, 2019, 04:42:04 PM
He's not a rookie, but priced liked one
This guy must be so sh!t when it comes to handling alcohol lmao
Troubled Fremantle midfielder Harley Bennell’s future hangs in the balance after another alcohol-fuelled indiscretion.
The West Australian has reported Bennell was asked to leave a Cottesloe hotel on Sunday for being too intoxicated.
Fremantle confirmed the incident, which occurred at the Ocean Beach Hotel just after 7pm.
“The club is aware that Harley Bennell was asked to leave a licensed venue in Cottesloe on Sunday and complied with the request to do so,†Dockers general manager of football Peter Bell told the West Australian.
Really believed that Bennell could be anything, what a helluva waste of talent. Reckon he's gone this time. Would still love to see him at his best but the gate may be already shut,
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on January 01, 2019, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 01, 2019, 04:42:04 PM
He's not a rookie, but priced liked one
This guy must be so sh!t when it comes to handling alcohol lmao
Troubled Fremantle midfielder Harley Bennell’s future hangs in the balance after another alcohol-fuelled indiscretion.
The West Australian has reported Bennell was asked to leave a Cottesloe hotel on Sunday for being too intoxicated.
Fremantle confirmed the incident, which occurred at the Ocean Beach Hotel just after 7pm.
“The club is aware that Harley Bennell was asked to leave a licensed venue in Cottesloe on Sunday and complied with the request to do so,†Dockers general manager of football Peter Bell told the West Australian.
Really believed that Bennell could be anything, what a helluva waste of talent. Reckon he's gone this time. Would still love to see him at his best but the gate may be already shut,
Yep think Harley will be free to get on the piss every night now :D
ffs, putting aside never seeing Harley Bennell perform in SC it is very sad to view the self destruction of a bloke. Life is hard and from my experience we make it harder on ourselves most of the time.
Harley Bennell is not even a Ben Cousins he is a possibility of a Ben Cousins that never started. Was reading today Ben Hayes discussing the issues with So Si Bon and what has been tried. They feel they might have finally found a way to get to him to race consistently, unfortunately it included gelding. Pretty sure that will not be allowed with footy players.
On the bright side, we can send Harley to Dave and Ben Hayes and he can play for Echuca? :)
Ive been kicked out of pubs for being too "intoxicated" after only having 4 beers and feeling totally sober but just being guilty of having fun
Some bouncers are moronic power trippers...
The media I can read of the incident does not say he did anything wrong and if this sort of rubbish was around 20 years ago then many high profile players like Modra & Barnes would not have played much footy at all after the shennanigans I used to see them get up to
For heavens sake Bennell was only asked to leave the hotel because he was intoxicated and he compled without arguing according to media reports.
Admittedly he has issues but surely this is not enough to warrant the current crucifixion. As bowyanger says how many players in previous years would have played if put under the same microscope.
Quote from: Ringo on January 02, 2019, 10:27:04 AM
For heavens sake Bennell was only asked to leave the hotel because he was intoxicated and he compled without arguing according to media reports.
Admittedly he has issues but surely this is not enough to warrant the current crucifixion. As bowyanger says how many players in previous years would have played if put under the same microscope.
Agree whole heartedly, just another example of our PC culture. Difference to being boozed and socializing. Also it can be easier and harder when you are well known. My impression was he was well sozzled and i apoligise to him if it was otherwise. Would love to see Harley get a full year of football in to see what he can offer Freo. Would be a great pickup for their midfield if he does.
Quote from: Ringo on January 02, 2019, 10:27:04 AM
For heavens sake Bennell was only asked to leave the hotel because he was intoxicated and he compled without arguing according to media reports.
Admittedly he has issues but surely this is not enough to warrant the current crucifixion. As bowyanger says how many players in previous years would have played if put under the same microscope.
I give him no benefit of the doubt, I know a lot of people from the Mandurah/Peel community and the powers that be down there turned a blind eye to the constant discretion's he made from childhood up to teenage years due to his "talent". Absolute blight on society.
In most cases I would say there's probably nothing in it but this guy is a repeat offender and gets no benefit of the doubt when he's on chance number 5000.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 23, 2018, 02:05:49 PM
Speaking of defensive rookies
I reckon we could be left with slim pickings come Rd1. I'm really struggling to see what def rookies are actually a chance of playing
Might be forced to go deep down back, or look at some risky mid pricers :-\
Rozee looks the goods but is pricey, McLennan is a plug & play & perhaps Collins to replace May. Rookies won't be cheap however so there will need to be some compromises. Birchall a must if he plays round 1.
Quote from: Bully on January 26, 2019, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 23, 2018, 02:05:49 PM
Speaking of defensive rookies
I reckon we could be left with slim pickings come Rd1. I'm really struggling to see what def rookies are actually a chance of playing
Might be forced to go deep down back, or look at some risky mid pricers :-\
Rozee looks the goods but is pricey, McLennan is a plug & play & perhaps Collins to replace May. Rookies won't be cheap however so there will need to be some compromises. Birchall a must if he plays round 1.
Ben McKay should also line up Rd. 1. Won't be a high scorer but with Daw out he's in the box seat to play every game.
Quote from: Bully on January 26, 2019, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 23, 2018, 02:05:49 PM
Speaking of defensive rookies
I reckon we could be left with slim pickings come Rd1. I'm really struggling to see what def rookies are actually a chance of playing
Might be forced to go deep down back, or look at some risky mid pricers :-\
Rozee looks the goods but is pricey, McLennan is a plug & play & perhaps Collins to replace May. Rookies won't be cheap however so there will need to be some compromises. Birchall a must if he plays round 1.
Agree that Rozee is very likely to start, but his price is the turn off, especially if he puts up sub 70 scores and turns into a very slow burn, but his JS is certainly appealing
Other than him, Collins is the only def rookie I'm convinced on
Williamson, Goddard, Logue, Quaynor, Scrimshaw are the pricier options and I don't think any of them will play Round 1, and even if they do I can't see any of them scoring well
Marty Hore and Wigg seem to be very popular place holders at the moment, but Hore would have to be ZERO chance of playing unless May or Lever go down, and Wigg was out all last year or close to it, so again I'm not holding my breathe that he walks up R1
One of McLennan/Burgess would also be an outside chance for GC, but 50/50 at best
Birchall is essentially a rookie at that price, so just treat him as a rookie. If he gets named we just have to pick him because he'll have the best JS of any rookie, and if he does in fact get injured well then it's an easy correction trade to a cheaper rookie
We'll find out more over the JLT, but as of now I'm thinking we need to go deep down back, and by all reports Roberton is looking good and will be very important to the Saints def setup and with his proven history I'm looking at Roberton at D4, Birchall D5 (Rozee if he's not fit) and Collins at D6, and then I'll just take the 2 best looking cheap rookies to fill the bench
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 26, 2019, 10:05:31 PM
Quote from: Bully on January 26, 2019, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 23, 2018, 02:05:49 PM
Speaking of defensive rookies
I reckon we could be left with slim pickings come Rd1. I'm really struggling to see what def rookies are actually a chance of playing
Might be forced to go deep down back, or look at some risky mid pricers :-\
Rozee looks the goods but is pricey, McLennan is a plug & play & perhaps Collins to replace May. Rookies won't be cheap however so there will need to be some compromises. Birchall a must if he plays round 1.
Agree that Rozee is very likely to start, but his price is the turn off, especially if he puts up sub 70 scores and turns into a very slow burn, but his JS is certainly appealing
Other than him, Collins is the only def rookie I'm convinced on
Williamson, Goddard, Logue, Quaynor, Scrimshaw are the pricier options and I don't think any of them will play Round 1, and even if they do I can't see any of them scoring well
Marty Hore and Wigg seem to be very popular place holders at the moment, but Hore would have to be ZERO chance of playing unless May or Lever go down, and Wigg was out all last year or close to it, so again I'm not holding my breathe that he walks up R1
One of McLennan/Burgess would also be an outside chance for GC, but 50/50 at best
Birchall is essentially a rookie at that price, so just treat him as a rookie. If he gets named we just have to pick him because he'll have the best JS of any rookie, and if he does in fact get injured well then it's an easy correction trade to a cheaper rookie
We'll find out more over the JLT, but as of now I'm thinking we need to go deep down back, and by all reports Roberton is looking good and will be very important to the Saints def setup and with his proven history I'm looking at Roberton at D4, Birchall D5 (Rozee if he's not fit) and Collins at D6, and then I'll just take the 2 best looking cheap rookies to fill the bench
Hadn't considered Roberton but fair shout, could be an excellent option. So possibly Roberton at D3, Z,Williams at D4. Must admit I hate overlooking Simpson but at 570k I just can't do it.
As for McLennan, I'm a bit more confident given GC traded up to get him in the draft. He's the type you build a defense around.
Rozee is looking the goods at training but he is a very slight build so that could hold him back , Nick Hind for the Saints is impressing with his speed and looks a cheap mid option.
Ellis for GC must be a chance (ex Richmond)
Quote from: shaker on January 27, 2019, 06:57:22 AM
Rozee is looking the goods at training but he is a very slight build so that could hold him back , Nick Hind for the Saints is impressing with his speed and looks a cheap mid option.
Nick Hind and Brett Bewley are the two cheap matured aged mid locks at this stage. I think they're both going to play Round 1
Quote from: Peter on January 27, 2019, 07:28:48 AM
Ellis for GC must be a chance (ex Richmond)
His SC numbers in the VFL were huge, but each time he stepped up to AFL he couldn't get going. He's an option for sure, but I think he's just a tad too costly considering the other options we have
Quote from: Bully on January 26, 2019, 10:48:33 PM
Hadn't considered Roberton but fair shout, could be an excellent option. So possibly Roberton at D3, Z,Williams at D4. Must admit I hate overlooking Simpson but at 570k I just can't do it.
As for McLennan, I'm a bit more confident given GC traded up to get him in the draft. He's the type you build a defense around.
Williams at D3 and Roberton at D4, with Birch/Collins filling out the line is looking likely for me
There's a lot of value down back this year, but picking the right one is always the hard part. Brodie Smith at 332k is appealing to a lot of people, but he's only really ever had 1 prem season so he's a pass for me, and Robbo being cheaper at 297k and having a more proven prem history makes him the clear choice imo.
I think Hanley is a smokey too, but he's recent history makes it very hard to pick him but I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be a good starting pick/stepping stone
Even guys like Connor Blakely at 460k are super tempting to start too. Like you I want to start Simmo because he's just so proven and you know he's set and forget, but 570k is a lot, hence the appeal of something like Blakely + 110k
Back on topic, as for rookies like I've said Collins and one of McLennan/Burgess are the only def rookies I'm liking at this stage
We should be able to comfortably pick 6+ good mid rookies, and I think Corbett, Cavara, Setters and Parker are all good place holders for the forward line. I read yesterday that McAdam needs to work on his tank, so probably not looking like a likely R1 option possibly
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 26, 2019, 10:05:31 PM
Quote from: Bully on January 26, 2019, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 23, 2018, 02:05:49 PM
Speaking of defensive rookies
I reckon we could be left with slim pickings come Rd1. I'm really struggling to see what def rookies are actually a chance of playing
Might be forced to go deep down back, or look at some risky mid pricers :-\
Rozee looks the goods but is pricey, McLennan is a plug & play & perhaps Collins to replace May. Rookies won't be cheap however so there will need to be some compromises. Birchall a must if he plays round 1.
Agree that Rozee is very likely to start, but his price is the turn off, especially if he puts up sub 70 scores and turns into a very slow burn, but his JS is certainly appealing
Other than him, Collins is the only def rookie I'm convinced on
Williamson, Goddard, Logue, Quaynor, Scrimshaw are the pricier options and I don't think any of them will play Round 1, and even if they do I can't see any of them scoring well
Marty Hore and Wigg seem to be very popular place holders at the moment, but Hore would have to be ZERO chance of playing unless May or Lever go down, and Wigg was out all last year or close to it, so again I'm not holding my breathe that he walks up R1
One of McLennan/Burgess would also be an outside chance for GC, but 50/50 at best
Birchall is essentially a rookie at that price, so just treat him as a rookie. If he gets named we just have to pick him because he'll have the best JS of any rookie, and if he does in fact get injured well then it's an easy correction trade to a cheaper rookie
We'll find out more over the JLT, but as of now I'm thinking we need to go deep down back, and by all reports Roberton is looking good and will be very important to the Saints def setup and with his proven history I'm looking at Roberton at D4, Birchall D5 (Rozee if he's not fit) and Collins at D6, and then I'll just take the 2 best looking cheap rookies to fill the bench
Logue is looking likely for round 1.
Lever is injured and is not expected back until mid season so Hore is a fair chance too.
As for Roberton, Carlisle and Austin are battling back and groin issues respectively, so he's far from a sure thing to play a loose rebounding role. Josh Battle is being trialled in defence so that may help him.
Quote from: ubeaut on January 27, 2019, 10:40:35 AM
Logue is looking likely for round 1.
Lever is injured and is not expected back until mid season so Hore is a fair chance too.
As for Roberton, Carlisle and Austin are battling back and groin issues respectively, so he's far from a sure thing to play a loose rebounding role. Josh Battle is being trialled in defence so that may help him.
My bad re Lever - I guess that makes Hore a chance to take a bench spot. Like I've said, just because a player gets named to play that isn't good enough - I don't want spud rookies who can't score, and last I check Hore's SC numbers in the VFL were not great, so at best he'd be my D7/8
As for Roberton, I'm not worried about a few teammates battling niggles. At 297k he's insanely cheap for what he is capable of scoring. Absolute worst case scenario he needs to be upgraded, which is completely fine and worth the shot at that price
Either way, I'm not expecting much
good def rookies at all
Hore no chance imo, will bide his time in the VFL
Quote from: Big Mac on January 27, 2019, 01:34:38 PM
Hore no chance imo, will bide his time in the VFL
Pretty much what I've been saying/expect to happen too
Dees are pushing for a flag. When one guy goes out (Lever) there's generally a few guys in reserve, before someone who was just drafted gets the nod
Guys like Frost, Joel Smith etc would be ahead of him you'd think
Any Saints fans got an inside scoop on Wilkie? Is he a fair chance to crack into the 22 and play Round 1?
So Wiliamson has been running laps only at the moment. Put a line through him for round 1. No chance he comes in with Newman in the mix. Interestingly enough Marchbank has also been limited to laps and Jones has broken his hand. I'd say Jones will be ready for round 1 but it could open up the door for Goddard.
Oh, and Levi has been training with the defenders. We have a ton of KPD's but they are all injured or returning from long term injuries.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 27, 2019, 09:24:27 AM
Quote from: shaker on January 27, 2019, 06:57:22 AM
Rozee is looking the goods at training but he is a very slight build so that could hold him back , Nick Hind for the Saints is impressing with his speed and looks a cheap mid option.
Nick Hind and Brett Bewley are the two cheap matured aged mid locks at this stage. I think they're both going to play Round 1
Quote from: Peter on January 27, 2019, 07:28:48 AM
Ellis for GC must be a chance (ex Richmond)
His SC numbers in the VFL were huge, but each time he stepped up to AFL he couldn't get going. He's an option for sure, but I think he's just a tad too costly considering the other options we have
Quote from: Bully on January 26, 2019, 10:48:33 PM
Hadn't considered Roberton but fair shout, could be an excellent option. So possibly Roberton at D3, Z,Williams at D4. Must admit I hate overlooking Simpson but at 570k I just can't do it.
As for McLennan, I'm a bit more confident given GC traded up to get him in the draft. He's the type you build a defense around.
There's a lot of value down back this year, but picking the right one is always the hard part. Brodie Smith at 332k is appealing to a lot of people, but he's only really ever had 1 prem season so he's a pass for me, and Robbo being cheaper at 297k and having a more proven prem history makes him the clear choice imo.
Numbers say otherwise. Roberton has had 2 seasons of 90+ but every other season has been sub 76.
Smith has had one season of 90+ (which was better than any Roberton has had) and 2 more above 80 (although one was off 2 games last year). The rest have been sub 76. They're essentially a wash.
The major difference with Roberton is that Jimmy Webster has now taken that rebounding/intercept role while he was injured and did it pretty well. They now have to get both of these guys to play cohesively.
I also want to check out the kickin numbers for 2017. I am curious to see where Smith ranks for the Crows.
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 27, 2019, 02:33:29 PM
Numbers say otherwise. Roberton has had 2 seasons of 90+ but every other season has been sub 76.
Smith has had one season of 90+ (which was better than any Roberton has had) and 2 more above 80 (although one was off 2 games last year). The rest have been sub 76. They're essentially a wash.
The major difference with Roberton is that Jimmy Webster has now taken that rebounding/intercept role while he was injured and did it pretty well. They now have to get both of these guys to play cohesively.
I also want to check out the kickin numbers for 2017. I am curious to see where Smith ranks for the Crows.
Roberton's numbers are much more recent though, so they carry more weight, especially since he's had 2 90+ seasons from 3 (ignore last year)
Brodie went 90+ in 2014 - that's way too far back now to really value
Might not sound like much, but the price difference also makes Roberton more attractive. At 297k even if he goes 75+ he still makes enough cash, and he takes a lot of the Saints kick outs too, which will only help with the new rules and his scoring
All this talk of Webster doing this, Carlisle and Austin being injured etc - none of that matters to me
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 27, 2019, 07:23:46 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 27, 2019, 02:33:29 PM
Numbers say otherwise. Roberton has had 2 seasons of 90+ but every other season has been sub 76.
Smith has had one season of 90+ (which was better than any Roberton has had) and 2 more above 80 (although one was off 2 games last year). The rest have been sub 76. They're essentially a wash.
The major difference with Roberton is that Jimmy Webster has now taken that rebounding/intercept role while he was injured and did it pretty well. They now have to get both of these guys to play cohesively.
I also want to check out the kickin numbers for 2017. I am curious to see where Smith ranks for the Crows.
Roberton's numbers are much more recent though, so they carry more weight, especially since he's had 2 90+ seasons from 3 (ignore last year)
Brodie went 90+ in 2014 - that's way too far back now to really value
Might not sound like much, but the price difference also makes Roberton more attractive. At 297k even if he goes 75+ he still makes enough cash, and he takes a lot of the Saints kick outs too, which will only help with the new rules and his scoring
All this talk of Webster doing this, Carlisle and Austin being injured etc - none of that matters to me
Well it matters to me. These factors could be the difference between a 85 - 90 avg and a 70 - 75 avg. I'd rather get 65 from a rookie at half the price or less.
Quote from: ubeaut on January 27, 2019, 07:47:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 27, 2019, 07:23:46 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 27, 2019, 02:33:29 PM
Numbers say otherwise. Roberton has had 2 seasons of 90+ but every other season has been sub 76.
Smith has had one season of 90+ (which was better than any Roberton has had) and 2 more above 80 (although one was off 2 games last year). The rest have been sub 76. They're essentially a wash.
The major difference with Roberton is that Jimmy Webster has now taken that rebounding/intercept role while he was injured and did it pretty well. They now have to get both of these guys to play cohesively.
I also want to check out the kickin numbers for 2017. I am curious to see where Smith ranks for the Crows.
Roberton's numbers are much more recent though, so they carry more weight, especially since he's had 2 90+ seasons from 3 (ignore last year)
Brodie went 90+ in 2014 - that's way too far back now to really value
Might not sound like much, but the price difference also makes Roberton more attractive. At 297k even if he goes 75+ he still makes enough cash, and he takes a lot of the Saints kick outs too, which will only help with the new rules and his scoring
All this talk of Webster doing this, Carlisle and Austin being injured etc - none of that matters to me
Well it matters to me. These factors could be the difference between a 85 - 90 avg and a 70 - 75 avg. I'd rather get 65 from a rookie at half the price or less.
I think you'll be hard pressed finding many def rookies going 65
Dylan Roberton ranks 4th in the AFL for kick-in to self since 2015, despite missing most of last season
Recent article also mentioned how he did a lot of coaching this year and will be a huge in for them, being a general down back
Lack of rookies, his price and history = extreme value
IMO biggest worry about Roberton is who's NOT back yet, Carlisle isn't training properly after an injury sustained before Christmas. Roberton has done jobs in the past and could be doing them again without Carlisle back. For me he's a wait and watch at the time being.
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Numbers say otherwise. Roberton has had 2 seasons of 90+ but every other season has been sub 76.
Smith has had one season of 90+ (which was better than any Roberton has had) and 2 more above 80 (although one was off 2 games last year). The rest have been sub 76. They're essentially a wash.
The major difference with Roberton is that Jimmy Webster has now taken that rebounding/intercept role while he was injured and did it pretty well. They now have to get both of these guys to play cohesively.
I also want to check out the kickin numbers for 2017. I am curious to see where Smith ranks for the Crows.
Roberton's numbers are much more recent though, so they carry more weight, especially since he's had 2 90+ seasons from 3 (ignore last year)
Brodie went 90+ in 2014 - that's way too far back now to really value
Might not sound like much, but the price difference also makes Roberton more attractive. At 297k even if he goes 75+ he still makes enough cash, and he takes a lot of the Saints kick outs too, which will only help with the new rules and his scoring
All this talk of Webster doing this, Carlisle and Austin being injured etc - none of that matters to me
Well it matters to me. These factors could be the difference between a 85 - 90 avg and a 70 - 75 avg. I'd rather get 65 from a rookie at half the price or less.
I think you'll be hard pressed finding many def rookies going 65
Dylan Roberton ranks 4th in the AFL for kick-in to self since 2015, despite missing most of last season
Recent article also mentioned how he did a lot of coaching this year and will be a huge in for them, being a general down back
Lack of rookies, his price and history = extreme value
You've almost sold me, could go Whitfield down to Mills & Rozee/Collins up to Roberton.
Interesting question, if Harley Bennell is picked round 1 will you start him?
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Interesting question, if Harley Bennell is picked round 1 will you start him?
Yep! Can't not have him at $165k. Him actually being available round 1 is the question though
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Interesting question, if Harley Bennell is picked round 1 will you start him?
Yep! Can't not have him at $165k. Him actually being available round 1 is the question though
Agree you just have to hope he plays a few rounds before he does something stupid or gets injured
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Interesting question, if Harley Bennell is picked round 1 will you start him?
Yep! Can't not have him at $165k. Him actually being available round 1 is the question though
Read a couple of days ago he's had a great preseason for the first time in years and is looking good
If he makes it to R1 then yep he has to be picked
You'd have to pay me at least $165k to pick Bennell.
At this stage, I'd say Collins, McLennan, Logue, McKay, Rozee and Quaynor appear to be the most likely def rookies to line up.
Bewley and Hind are just about locks in the midfield, Walsh if you're happy to take the expensive option.
Forward options looking a little less obvious at this point, could of assumed options like Cavarra and Parker, but Corbett appears to be one of the few certainties.
I've probably forgot a few names though.
I think everyone knew but for those that don’t...
Carlton: "Over the next week or two he'll be into the full training group doing full game play situations.. he's looking really good for the start of the season" Director of High Performance Andrew Russell on Will Setterfield
This is a great article just posted on AFL.com.au
Use this as a reference just to get a feel for who to use as place-holders, and your structure
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-28/draftee-watch-how-are-your-clubs-new-faces-tracking
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Interesting question, if Harley Bennell is picked round 1 will you start him?
Yep! Can't not have him at $165k. Him actually being available round 1 is the question though
Read a couple of days ago he's had a great preseason for the first time in years and is looking good
If he makes it to R1 then yep he has to be picked
Yep if he starts Rd 1 too hard to ignore at the price. Nice cash builder if anywhere near his best.
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Roberton's numbers are much more recent though, so they carry more weight, especially since he's had 2 90+ seasons from 3 (ignore last year)
Brodie went 90+ in 2014 - that's way too far back now to really value
Might not sound like much, but the price difference also makes Roberton more attractive. At 297k even if he goes 75+ he still makes enough cash, and he takes a lot of the Saints kick outs too, which will only help with the new rules and his scoring
All this talk of Webster doing this, Carlisle and Austin being injured etc - none of that matters to me
Change of role in a team can be huge as to how a player scores. When Lever came to the Dees that hurt Hibberd's intercept possession numbers which was a larger reason he scored so well the year before.
In 2017 Lever was number 1 per game at an average of 9.50. Hibberd was number 7 at 7.61. In 2018 Lever was number 11 at 7.91 and Hibberd dropped all the way down to 67 at an average of 5.1. Lever didn't play the whole season but the Dees manufactured Jordan Lewis to take on the Hibberd role from the previous year which resulted in a ton of kick ins and 6.46 intercept possessions per game which was good for 39th. The year before Lewis wasn't even in the top 100.
The other stat which Hibberd dominated was rebound 50's. He was launching a large number of counterattacks and was ranked number 2 in the comp with an average of 6.83. In 2018 he dropped down to 24 for an average of 4.14 per game. This resulted in him being number 1 in the comp for meters gained in 2017 (556.50) compared to 36 in 2018 (402.29). So he was nowhere near as damaging with his possessions in 2018 when he wasn't the manufactured loose defender.
So looking at the stats that made Roberton an asset in 2017. He was 21st in the AFL with an average of 6.68 intercepts per game. He was taking the majority of the kickins, lead a majority of their rebound 50's (4th at 5.64 per game) and was number 11 in meters gained at an average of 474.14. He was the guy they manufactured to play loose behind the ball. If he was forced to play more accountable those numbers could see a Hibberd like plummet and he could end up averaging around 70. At his price the reward is a lot greater than the risk, however you're likely to see a higher floor from someone like Brodie Smith for a similar ceiling.
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Interesting question, if Harley Bennell is picked round 1 will you start him?
Yep! Can't not have him at $165k. Him actually being available round 1 is the question though
Read a couple of days ago he's had a great preseason for the first time in years and is looking good
If he makes it to R1 then yep he has to be picked
Yep if he starts Rd 1 too hard to ignore at the price. Nice cash builder if anywhere near his best.
Cant say no to a pick like him, i really would just love to see him out there again
Also guys, ive always enjoyed doing write ups on fanfooty in the preseason so i finally thought id give a crack at making a facebook page.
Its relevant here as i did a rookie bible write up and thought some of you guys would enjoy the read. Feel free to look at my scouting reports or maybe even drop a like if you enjoy. Thanks guys means a lot :)
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2256658007956160&id=2256597511295543
If we're lucky enough to get a playing rookie ruck at R3 what are people thinking about doing loophole wise?
I'm thinking Rozee/Burgess could be the way to go, assuming one of them (likely Burgess) isn't named round 1, allow us to not only use him to loophole our VC/C but it would also mean you have Rozee available on both lines as DEF/FWD
I don't think Rozee will score very well, especially as he is training as a half forward, but his JS and DPP might be enough of a pay off
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If we're lucky enough to get a playing rookie ruck at R3 what are people thinking about doing loophole wise?
I'm thinking Rozee/Burgess could be the way to go, assuming one of them (likely Burgess) isn't named round 1, allow us to not only use him to loophole our VC/C but it would also mean you have Rozee available on both lines as DEF/FWD
I don't think Rozee will score very well, especially as he is training as a half forward, but his JS and DPP might be enough of a pay off
At this early stage, I'm looking at having Rhylee West on the bench. He may may not play first up, but should play eventually and the Bulldogs are the best side to utilise DPP.
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If we're lucky enough to get a playing rookie ruck at R3 what are people thinking about doing loophole wise?
I'm thinking Rozee/Burgess could be the way to go, assuming one of them (likely Burgess) isn't named round 1, allow us to not only use him to loophole our VC/C but it would also mean you have Rozee available on both lines as DEF/FWD
I don't think Rozee will score very well, especially as he is training as a half forward, but his JS and DPP might be enough of a pay off
I'll just pick the best rookies, having the best cash generation is more important imo
After a few rounds someone will inevitably be injured/dropped and stuck on your bench anyway
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If we're lucky enough to get a playing rookie ruck at R3 what are people thinking about doing loophole wise?
I'm thinking Rozee/Burgess could be the way to go, assuming one of them (likely Burgess) isn't named round 1, allow us to not only use him to loophole our VC/C but it would also mean you have Rozee available on both lines as DEF/FWD
I don't think Rozee will score very well, especially as he is training as a half forward, but his JS and DPP might be enough of a pay off
I think Rozee will score well, has already proven he can rack up 25+ touches at senior level. Of the first year guys it's Walsh then Rozee & perhaps Rankine if he gets a bit of time in the middle. Ely Smith a smokey but can be iffy with his disposal.
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If we're lucky enough to get a playing rookie ruck at R3 what are people thinking about doing loophole wise?
I'm thinking Rozee/Burgess could be the way to go, assuming one of them (likely Burgess) isn't named round 1, allow us to not only use him to loophole our VC/C but it would also mean you have Rozee available on both lines as DEF/FWD
I don't think Rozee will score very well, especially as he is training as a half forward, but his JS and DPP might be enough of a pay off
M11 for me we have the extra player in the mids and there are numerous DPP's from several clubs at 102K
Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6 :'(
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Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6 :'(
You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8
Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc
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Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6 :'(
You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8
Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc
Do you know how Birch is travelling? Haven't heard anything about him since that latest operation before Xmas
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Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6 :'(
You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8
Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc
Do you know how Birch is travelling? Haven't heard anything about him since that latest operation before Xmas
Read something yesterday that suggested he is back out there, but not with the main group yet
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Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6 :'(
You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8
Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc
Do you know how Birch is travelling? Haven't heard anything about him since that latest operation before Xmas
Read something yesterday that suggested he is back out there, but not with the main group yet
That's frustrating. I want to see him play atleast 1 JLT game
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Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6 :'(
You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8
Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc
Do you know how Birch is travelling? Haven't heard anything about him since that latest operation before Xmas
Read something yesterday that suggested he is back out there, but not with the main group yet
That's frustrating. I want to see him play atleast 1 JLT game
I'm sure I'll change my mind 100 more times and maybe I'll give him a chance, but for the time being I'm off Birch and anyone else who's had an interrupted preseason
The reality is Birch will likely put up 70-80 most weeks anyway, so won't miss out on heaps of points, but his JS is the appeal however his body is shot so I'm hoping they'll be enough def rookies that I won't need him
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Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6 :'(
You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8
Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc
Do you know how Birch is travelling? Haven't heard anything about him since that latest operation before Xmas
Read something yesterday that suggested he is back out there, but not with the main group yet
That's frustrating. I want to see him play atleast 1 JLT game
I'm sure I'll change my mind 100 more times and maybe I'll give him a chance, but for the time being I'm off Birch and anyone else who's had an interrupted preseason
The reality is Birch will likely put up 70-80 most weeks anyway, so won't miss out on heaps of points, but his JS is the appeal however his body is shot so I'm hoping they'll be enough def rookies that I won't need him
A 200k guy dropping 70-80 would be huge
the 200k mids last year where only dropping 50-65
"Huge" is a bit of a stretch
200k mid are always crap to pick anyway
117-123k rookies could put up close enough scores some weeks, and are way cheaper and they aren't walking injuries like Birch
Tom north according to Adam Cerra and the west Australian 123k .... would be nice
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"Huge" is a bit of a stretch
200k mid are always crap to pick anyway
117-123k rookies could put up close enough scores some weeks, and are way cheaper and they aren't walking injuries like Birch
yeah but think of it this way. The good cheap rookies everyone has so really you need to compare the 4th or 5th best rookie on that line against birchall. So from last year your comparing 70-80 from Birchall not to Ed Richards or Doedee who where locks but more guys like Lachlan Murphy.
First 7 games.
Brayshaw last year put up 54
Cerra put up 62
Dow put up 53
So if birchall can put up even a 70 average for say 7 rounds ill be super stoked with that.
Josh Corbett and Chris Burgess "haven't missed a beat"
"Collins started really well but then had a bit of a niggle in his knee - we think he's going to be a contributor"
Hmmm, hopefully it's not much but was hoping for something a little more solid on Collins
Any west coast supporters like Matthew Allens chances of an early debut? 123k fwd/mid whose been around a while but just moved into the midfield group and a video on the clubs website would suggest the players are a pretty big wrap for him
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Any west coast supporters like Matthew Allens chances of an early debut? 123k fwd/mid whose been around a while but just moved into the midfield group and a video on the clubs website would suggest the players are a pretty big wrap for him
I highly doubt it, wouldn't rate his job security. Imagine he debuted round 1 only to be covering for Gaff then straight out. Don't think he's a chance to play regular games unless a few injuries happen, possibly a good downgrade target later in the year if in fact those injuries do pop up.
I've been suggesting for quite a while now that we might be light on with def rookies to chose from which is why I am looking to go deep down back
Well, "The Phantom" has just posted an article about the Def rookies and here's his final verdict. I'll assume these are the only guys he rates as being a chance (and this guy must be lurking here because he's said everything I've said about each of them :P)
Connor Rozee: There are cheaper options but, all going well, Rozee will play majority of games in his debut season and looms as great cash cow in defence.
Isaac Quaynor: Might not be the highest-scoring rookie-price defender but we all know how important early games are. Keep him on the watchlist.
Xavier Duursma: Might be a JLT Series bolter.
Sam Collins: Lock him in â€" he’s worth the elevated price tag.
Marty Hore: The perfect bench option if the 23-year-old can break in.
Callum Wilkie: More likely an early-season downgrade option.
Chris Burgess: A very good chance to be there Round 1 but will his scoring translate playing in the Gold Coast forward line?
Corey Ellis: I’m not convinced.
Jack Scrimshaw: Doesn’t have the runs on the board but the potential is there.
Tom Williamson: The JLT Series will tell us what we need to know about the young Blue.
Harrison Wigg: Please, Stuey.
This is just one persons opinion after all, and we won't really know until we see some JLT but this guy has pretty much mirrored what I've been saying/thinking about each of these players too, which is why I think we need to go deep.
Ok you West Coast people what about Jarrod Brander 135K what's going on with him any chance R1 and his scoring capabilities ?
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Any west coast supporters like Matthew Allens chances of an early debut? 123k fwd/mid whose been around a while but just moved into the midfield group and a video on the clubs website would suggest the players are a pretty big wrap for him
I highly doubt it, wouldn't rate his job security. Imagine he debuted round 1 only to be covering for Gaff then straight out. Don't think he's a chance to play regular games unless a few injuries happen, possibly a good downgrade target later in the year if in fact those injuries do pop up.
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Ok you West Coast people what about Jarrod Brander 135K what's going on with him any chance R1 and his scoring capabilities ?
The only WCE rookie you should consider is Baines for R3 loophole
Foley would be the best chance of rookies if I had to guess, but I'm not expecting any rookies to play early for us so I'd suggest looking elsewhere for now
Brander will be given another chance at some point, but I don't think we can trust any WCE rookies for SC at this stage
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I've been suggesting for quite a while now that we might be light on with def rookies to chose from which is why I am looking to go deep down back
Well, "The Phantom" has just posted an article about the Def rookies and here's his final verdict. I'll assume these are the only guys he rates as being a chance (and this guy must be lurking here because he's said everything I've said about each of them :P)
Connor Rozee: There are cheaper options but, all going well, Rozee will play majority of games in his debut season and looms as great cash cow in defence.
Isaac Quaynor: Might not be the highest-scoring rookie-price defender but we all know how important early games are. Keep him on the watchlist.
Xavier Duursma: Might be a JLT Series bolter.
Sam Collins: Lock him in â€" he’s worth the elevated price tag.
Marty Hore: The perfect bench option if the 23-year-old can break in.
Callum Wilkie: More likely an early-season downgrade option.
Chris Burgess: A very good chance to be there Round 1 but will his scoring translate playing in the Gold Coast forward line?
Corey Ellis: I’m not convinced.
Jack Scrimshaw: Doesn’t have the runs on the board but the potential is there.
Tom Williamson: The JLT Series will tell us what we need to know about the young Blue.
Harrison Wigg: Please, Stuey.
This is just one persons opinion after all, and we won't really know until we see some JLT but this guy has pretty much mirrored what I've been saying/thinking about each of these players too, which is why I think we need to go deep.
How deep are we talking though Rd?
I agree that def rookies are looking lighter than other lines, but is it that dire?
Rozee and Collins are just about locks to start round 1. That's 2 spots.
He didn't mention Logue who is rookie priced and should play 3rd tall interceptor role. That's 3.
Then we just need 1 or 2 of Williamson, Quaynor , Duursma,Hore or any bolter that often pops up late to play.
The deepest I think we'll have to go is a mid pricer at D4.
Last resort I might start Birchall, but no way I want to have an expensive D5.
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How deep are we talking though Rd?
I agree that def rookies are looking lighter than other lines, but is it that dire?
Rozee and Collins are just about locks to start round 1. That's 2 spots.
He didn't mention Logue who is rookie priced and should play 3rd tall interceptor role. That's 3.
Then we just need 1 or 2 of Williamson, Quaynor , Duursma,Hore or any bolter that often pops up late to play.
The deepest I think we'll have to go is a mid pricer at D4.
Last resort I might start Birchall, but no way I want to have an expensive D5.
Well that's what I mean - there won't be many cheap rookies at all
Collins/Rozee/Birch/Williamson these guys are all basically 200k, and we know how crap 200k rookies usually turn out to be in terms of cash generation and scoring. Quaynor/Logue 150k+ too
Basically, we can't have a cheap rookie on field imo. You need to field the expensive guys, and hope we get 2 cheapies just for the bench
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Quote from: ubeaut on February 04, 2019, 01:20:08 PM
How deep are we talking though Rd?
I agree that def rookies are looking lighter than other lines, but is it that dire?
Rozee and Collins are just about locks to start round 1. That's 2 spots.
He didn't mention Logue who is rookie priced and should play 3rd tall interceptor role. That's 3.
Then we just need 1 or 2 of Williamson, Quaynor , Duursma,Hore or any bolter that often pops up late to play.
The deepest I think we'll have to go is a mid pricer at D4.
Last resort I might start Birchall, but no way I want to have an expensive D5.
Well that's what I mean - there won't be many cheap rookies at all
Collins/Rozee/Birch/Williamson these guys are all basically 200k, and we know how crap 200k rookies usually turn out to be in terms of cash generation and scoring. Quaynor/Logue 150k+ too
Basically, we can't have a cheap rookie on field imo. You need to field the expensive guys, and hope we get 2 cheapies just for the bench
At the moment I've got Rozee, Collins, Quaynor with Hoare and Wigg on the bench.
Keeping an eye out on Birchall, Burgess, Logue, Dursma, Scrimshaw and any others that pop up.
They are expensive but I like them more than the forward rookie options which is why I've got a mid priced F4 rather than D3
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2019, 11:31:29 AM
I've been suggesting for quite a while now that we might be light on with def rookies to chose from which is why I am looking to go deep down back
Well, "The Phantom" has just posted an article about the Def rookies and here's his final verdict. I'll assume these are the only guys he rates as being a chance (and this guy must be lurking here because he's said everything I've said about each of them :P)
Connor Rozee: There are cheaper options but, all going well, Rozee will play majority of games in his debut season and looms as great cash cow in defence.
Isaac Quaynor: Might not be the highest-scoring rookie-price defender but we all know how important early games are. Keep him on the watchlist.
Xavier Duursma: Might be a JLT Series bolter.
Sam Collins: Lock him in â€" he’s worth the elevated price tag.
Marty Hore: The perfect bench option if the 23-year-old can break in.
Callum Wilkie: More likely an early-season downgrade option.
Chris Burgess: A very good chance to be there Round 1 but will his scoring translate playing in the Gold Coast forward line?
Corey Ellis: I’m not convinced.
Jack Scrimshaw: Doesn’t have the runs on the board but the potential is there.
Tom Williamson: The JLT Series will tell us what we need to know about the young Blue.
Harrison Wigg: Please, Stuey.
This is just one persons opinion after all, and we won't really know until we see some JLT but this guy has pretty much mirrored what I've been saying/thinking about each of these players too, which is why I think we need to go deep.
Ok all that means to me is that there are 2 people that don't know what there talking about ;D but seriously even after JLT and we have all have the rookies that shone out in our teams then the R1 teams are named and a lot of the certain starters don't get a game happens every year , so whoever starts R1 is in the team.
One of my rules of SC is never start a rookie that is not named R1 thinking they will next week except for one loophole , so if they are expensive or if they are cheap does not matter you have to fit your team around starting rookies.
Michael Gibbons is sounding like a very good chance of getting picked up by Carlton, and even debuting Round 1
Not available atm in SC, but what would he come in at? Surely 102k?
Either way, another lock mid. Might even just place a 102k rookie at M11 for the time being and reserve that for Gibbons
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2019, 08:25:43 PM
Michael Gibbons is sounding like a very good chance of getting picked up by Carlton, and even debuting Round 1
Not available atm in SC, but what would he come in at? Surely 102k?
Either way, another lock mid. Might even just place a 102k rookie at M11 for the time being and reserve that for Gibbons
Someone like Tobe Watson who also is a chance of playing R1
Would be super handy of both of them got named round 1
I'm hearing from a mate who regularly watches Carlton training, and that is that Setterfield may not be right until Round 3 or 4 and that Stocker looks lost out there in match sim, not even close to being ready to go.
Quote from: _wato on February 05, 2019, 12:58:39 PM
I'm hearing from a mate who regularly watches Carlton training, and that is that Setterfield may not be right until Round 3 or 4 and that Stocker looks lost out there in match sim, not even close to being ready to go.
Yeah I dropped Stocker from side a few weeks ago - from everything I've heard over the past couple of months I just figured he was no chance for Round 1, and will likely be a downgrade option later in the year
As for Setterfield he is overcoming an injury, but I think I read something recently that suggested he is pushing to be ready for Round 1. Hopefully we see him in JLT
If Setters misses Round 1, I'd still pick him to use for loophole where possible because he's a lock to play once fit so why waste the trade
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Quote from: _wato on February 05, 2019, 12:58:39 PM
I'm hearing from a mate who regularly watches Carlton training, and that is that Setterfield may not be right until Round 3 or 4 and that Stocker looks lost out there in match sim, not even close to being ready to go.
Yeah I dropped Stocker from side a few weeks ago - from everything I've heard over the past couple of months I just figured he was no chance for Round 1, and will likely be a downgrade option later in the year
As for Setterfield he is overcoming an injury, but I think I read something recently that suggested he is pushing to be ready for Round 1. Hopefully we see him in JLT
If Setters misses Round 1, I'd still pick him to use for loophole where possible because he's a lock to play once fit so why waste the trade
We just wait and see who is up for Rd 1 - Stocker should be easily replaced and Setterfield as RD says is a certainty to play when fit if not Rd 1 so if either bench is playing which you what from Rd 1 sit him there till he plays. Trades as we know are important so why waste one getting him back in when he does play.
Not that easy - say he doesn’t debut till Rd 3/4 to be conservative (which they will be considering their injury list) he might not be on the bubble till Rd 6/7 which is enough time for a good rook to make 150k+
In reply to comments about eagles rookies... absolutely no chance any of them get permanent game time(but brander will be a gun of the Comp one day)
Gibbons looks like he will be a SuperCoach gift for us all.
Tom Williamson will be a lock for the blues but doubt he will be a good Sc scorer.
Quote from: _wato on February 05, 2019, 01:38:45 PM
Not that easy - say he doesn’t debut till Rd 3/4 to be conservative (which they will be considering their injury list) he might not be on the bubble till Rd 6/7 which is enough time for a good rook to make 150k+
Would you want to trade a good rookie that early though? More likely you trade one that has been spudding it and/or dropped haha
Quote from: _wato on February 05, 2019, 12:58:39 PM
I'm hearing from a mate who regularly watches Carlton training, and that is that Setterfield may not be right until Round 3 or 4 and that Stocker looks lost out there in match sim, not even close to being ready to go.
Everything I have seen with Stocker says he isn't even training with the main group properly yet. I doubt he lines up round 1 unless he has a huge turn around and tears up the JLT. I always thought Setterfield would start the year in the VFL to get some run in his legs. Coming off the ACL I though he would be battling for R1 and wouldn't play JLT. You aren't going to throw the guy straight in. Reports have him possibly playing some JLT so I'd be a bit more optimistic than I was in November.
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Tom Williamson will be a lock for the blues but doubt he will be a good Sc scorer.
Unfortunately he won't be. I doubt he is fit for round 1. He is still just running laps with the rehab group and barely played all last season with the back. I expect Simmo, Newman and Daisy to hold down the fort.
As for his scoring, he would score better on the bigger grounds in his first season. It let him use his run and carry which is his best asset. He struggled to do that at Etihad/Marvel as teams were able to close space and make it harder for him to break through.
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Quote from: _wato on February 05, 2019, 12:58:39 PM
I'm hearing from a mate who regularly watches Carlton training, and that is that Setterfield may not be right until Round 3 or 4 and that Stocker looks lost out there in match sim, not even close to being ready to go.
Everything I have seen with Stocker says he isn't even training with the main group properly yet. I doubt he lines up round 1 unless he has a huge turn around and tears up the JLT. I always thought Setterfield would start the year in the VFL to get some run in his legs. Coming off the ACL I though he would be battling for R1 and wouldn't play JLT. You aren't going to throw the guy straight in. Reports have him possibly playing some JLT so I'd be a bit more optimistic than I was in November.
Quote from: eaglesman on February 05, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
Tom Williamson will be a lock for the blues but doubt he will be a good Sc scorer.
Unfortunately he won't be. I doubt he is fit for round 1. He is still just running laps with the rehab group and barely played all last season with the back. I expect Simmo, Newman and Daisy to hold down the fort.
As for his scoring, he would score better on the bigger grounds in his first season. It let him use his run and carry which is his best asset. He struggled to do that at Etihad/Marvel as teams were able to close space and make it harder for him to break through.
Do you like Gibbons chances of lining up round 1?
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Do you like Gibbons chances of lining up round 1?
No idea. We don't have a deep midfield so he would be a shot if he plays well enough. He has done enough to impress them in the match sims and I think he has been killing it in the time trials as well. I might have a crack at our 22 later this week to get a rough idea. Our injury list is a mess already
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-30/injury-blues-nearly-half-of-best-22-on-restricted-duties
The article has some info on guys like Williamson and Setterfield in there. I'll drop the important info below
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Mitch McGovern
He's running laps after suffering a non-displaced fracture of his back before Christmas. The club hopes he will back in full training in the next fortnight.
Will Setterfield
Still recovering from an ACL injury that ruined his 2018 season with the Giants. He's taking part in most drills now and the club expects him to re-join the main group in the next fortnight.
Caleb Marchbank
He's still running laps as he recovers from a back problem. He's taking part in a few drills, but it's fair to say his rehab is taking longer than the club perhaps first expected. Marchbank is likely to re-join the main group at some stage in February.
Liam Jones
Restricted to running laps recently due to a fractured hand. Expect him back in full training sooner, rather than later.
Darcy Lang
A foot problem has him on incredibly light duties. He still can't kick, so hasn't joined in ball drills. The club says he is "highly unlikely" to be fit for round one.
Matthew Kreuzer
Had minor knee surgery last week. He isn't expected to re-join the main group until late in pre-season, but the club is still confident he will be in the frame for round one.
Sam Docherty
The new co-captain will miss most, if not all, of 2019 with a knee injury.
Jarrod Pickett
He remains a long way off returning from his knee injury.
Alex Fasolo
He's expected to miss six to eight weeks with a broken arm, which will more than likely rule him out of round one.
Tom Williamson
There had been concern for the defender after he sat out the last two sessions. But the club is adamant it is simply giving the youngster a breather after a brutal workload following a year out of the game with a debilitating back problem.
This was a report from today
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WHO’S FIT
Jack Silvagni has spent a summer of explicit explosive running as he attempts to spend more time on the ball. His younger brother Ben has impressed as a switch-hitting key position player in match simulation. While the club hasn’t committed to him yet, clearance king Michael Gibbons has been a standout at training, to the point where one casual observer made the assessment that if you didn’t know who he was, he would be playing against Richmond in Round 1.
WHO’S HURT
Unfortunately, there are too many in this bracket with co-captain Sam Docherty gone for the year (knee). Recruit Mitch McGovern is running laps after suffering a non-displaced fracture of his back, Darcy Lang is highly unlikely for Round 1 (foot), Alex Fasolo is six to eight weeks (broken arm), Caleb Marchbank is on light duties (back), Jarrod Picket (knee) is a fair way off, Liam Jones (fractured hand) is running laps, Matthew Kreuzer (knee) is hopeful of being ready for Round 1 while Will Setterfield and Tom Williamson are making steady progress from long-term injuries.
WHO’S IMPRESSING
After a second year of stagnation, Sam Petrevski-Seton is flying as he prepares for more midfield time. And the Zac Fisher journey continues to grow. Number one draft pick Sam Walsh has had a stunning debut pre-season. Tom De Koning, Patrick Kerr and Harry McKay are a trio of young talls who appear ready to take the next step after improving their running during pre-season. Lochie O’Brien missed some early sessions but in the past two weeks has been blitzing on the track. Paddy Dow has increased his strength and is ready for a breakout second season.
Setterfield had his first competitive hit out on Monday, so sounding like he is starting to ramp things up now - good sign
Plowman, Weitering, Jones
Newman, Marchbank, Simpson
Dow, Curnow, Walsh
Fisher, Curnow, SPS
McGovern, McKay, O’Brien
Kreuzer, Cripps, Murphy
Kennedy, Thomas, Setterfield, Williamson
Unfit from best 22:
Docherty, Lang*, Fasolo*, Pickett*
That’s how I see our round 1 lineup.
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Plowman, Weitering, Jones
Newman, Marchbank, Simpson
Dow, Curnow, Walsh
Fisher, Curnow, SPS
McGovern, McKay, O’Brien
Kreuzer, Cripps, Murphy
Kennedy, Thomas, Setterfield, Williamson
Unfit from best 22:
Docherty, Lang*, Fasolo*, Pickett*
That’s how I see our round 1 lineup.
Williamson isn't even fit yet so wouldn't be locking him in to be ready by Round 1. I saw Jones got injured too, not sure how long he is out for. Gibbons is a chance to make the list and debut too
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Plowman, Weitering, Jones
Newman, Marchbank, Simpson
Dow, Curnow, Walsh
Fisher, Curnow, SPS
McGovern, McKay, O’Brien
Kreuzer, Cripps, Murphy
Kennedy, Thomas, Setterfield, Williamson
Unfit from best 22:
Docherty, Lang*, Fasolo*, Pickett*
That’s how I see our round 1 lineup.
Williamson isn't even fit yet so wouldn't be locking him in to be ready by Round 1. I saw Jones got injured too, not sure how long he is out for. Gibbons is a chance to make the list and debut too
If Gibbons gets picked up (I think he will) I feel as though he is a good chance for round 1 but I have left him out for now.
Kreuzer, Marchbank, Jones, Setterfield and McGovern are all injured but should be right for round 1 imo. Williamson may go through the VFL but I really rate him and think he is a good chance for round 1 if fit.
Irving Mosquito sounds like he's virtually no chance of playing round 1 according to Woosha. Hadn't considered him but for those with him you may as well look elsewhere
Quote from: quinny88 on February 06, 2019, 03:26:15 PM
Irving Mosquito sounds like he's virtually no chance of playing round 1 according to Woosha. Hadn't considered him but for those with him you may as well look elsewhere
That's pretty understandable, he's still at school from memory?
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Irving Mosquito sounds like he's virtually no chance of playing round 1 according to Woosha. Hadn't considered him but for those with him you may as well look elsewhere
I lol'd when I saw his ownership % was something crazy like 25% ;D
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Irving Mosquito sounds like he's virtually no chance of playing round 1 according to Woosha. Hadn't considered him but for those with him you may as well look elsewhere
I lol'd when I saw his ownership % was something crazy like 25% ;D
I have him but basically atm as a low priced rookie with DPP as did not have that link set up. Will see what becomes available for RD1 but would want a rookie with DPP.
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Irving Mosquito sounds like he's virtually no chance of playing round 1 according to Woosha. Hadn't considered him but for those with him you may as well look elsewhere
I lol'd when I saw his ownership % was something crazy like 25% ;D
I have him but basically atm as a low priced rookie with DPP as did not have that link set up. Will see what becomes available for RD1 but would want a rookie with DPP.
DPP is overrated in the first half of the season
We should have all bench options playing Round 1, so you're not going to need DPP
DPP is handy for the second half of the season when we get low on trades
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Quote from: quinny88 on February 06, 2019, 03:26:15 PM
Irving Mosquito sounds like he's virtually no chance of playing round 1 according to Woosha. Hadn't considered him but for those with him you may as well look elsewhere
I lol'd when I saw his ownership % was something crazy like 25% ;D
I have him but basically atm as a low priced rookie with DPP as did not have that link set up. Will see what becomes available for RD1 but would want a rookie with DPP.
DPP is overrated in the first half of the season
We should have all bench options playing Round 1, so you're not going to need DPP
DPP is handy for the second half of the season when we get low on trades
Have to disagree with that Rd.
For one DPP captain loophole is invaluable.
Aside from that, corrective trades are given much more flexibility With DPPs.
For example, you start Roberton, he fails and there are no decent back rookies you don't already have. If u have Rozee fwd, and there's a fwd rookie about to explode in price after a few lucky bags, Roberton becomes that rookie.
Or Greene does a knee, no fwd rookie to get, move someone from mids to fwds and jump on that rookie u missed, or even Miles/Libba if they fire early.
I'm not suggesting that you disrupt team structure or pick players soley on DPP, but the sooner you can get DPP swing sets in as many positions as you can the better.
Setterfield, Rozee and an Owies type will likely be in my team.
Quote from: ubeaut on February 06, 2019, 06:24:32 PM
Have to disagree with that Rd.
For one DPP captain loophole is invaluable.
Aside from that, corrective trades are given much more flexibility With DPPs.
For example, you start Roberton, he fails and there are no decent back rookies you don't already have. If u have Rozee fwd, and there's a fwd rookie about to explode in price after a few lucky bags, Roberton becomes that rookie.
Or Greene does a knee, no fwd rookie to get, move someone from mids to fwds and jump on that rookie u missed, or even Miles/Libba if they fire early.
I'm not suggesting that you disrupt team structure or pick players soley on DPP, but the sooner you can get DPP swing sets in as many positions as you can the better.
Setterfield, Rozee and an Owies type will likely be in my team.
Don't need DPP for captain loophole. Just a non scoring player is all we need for that
As for the rest, I obviously had a brain fart haha. Of course having DPP is super handy for trading, being able to move out a fwd, swing a DPP mid to fwd, then bring in a mid as an example, yeah that's awesome.
For some reason whenever I see DPP said, I just think of being able to substitute between players haha. My bad
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Quote from: ubeaut on February 06, 2019, 06:24:32 PM
Have to disagree with that Rd.
For one DPP captain loophole is invaluable.
Aside from that, corrective trades are given much more flexibility With DPPs.
For example, you start Roberton, he fails and there are no decent back rookies you don't already have. If u have Rozee fwd, and there's a fwd rookie about to explode in price after a few lucky bags, Roberton becomes that rookie.
Or Greene does a knee, no fwd rookie to get, move someone from mids to fwds and jump on that rookie u missed, or even Miles/Libba if they fire early.
I'm not suggesting that you disrupt team structure or pick players soley on DPP, but the sooner you can get DPP swing sets in as many positions as you can the better.
Setterfield, Rozee and an Owies type will likely be in my team.
Don't need DPP for captain loophole. Just a non scoring player is all we need for that
As for the rest, I obviously had a brain fart haha. Of course having DPP is super handy for trading, being able to move out a fwd, swing a DPP mid to fwd, then bring in a mid as an example, yeah that's awesome.
For some reason whenever I see DPP said, I just think of being able to substitute between players haha. My bad
You don't have to have the link set up from rd1 (e.g. a fwd/mid in the midfield and another up fwd), but its good to have just one of those in play from the start to make some better trades early on. After round 8ish though is when you'll probably want those links set up for sure.
Having listened to Leon Cameron's Ask The Coach, I would say Hately is the only rookie who is a remote chance of possibly playing Round 1
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Having listened to Leon Cameron's Ask The Coach, I would say Hately is the only rookie who is a remote chance of possibly playing Round 1
Been a placeholder in my side since SC opened. Kid looks the goods.
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Having listened to Leon Cameron's Ask The Coach, I would say Hately is the only rookie who is a remote chance of possibly playing Round 1
Been a placeholder in my side since SC opened. Kid looks the goods.
Been in my side since the start too, but like I said he'd be a remote chance. It's either him (low % chance) or nobody, so there's every chance he won't line up R1
I've just changed him to Bennell as the placeholder - allocates more cash that way too
Someone asked about WCE rookies recently and I think both Ele and I said no chance
He's not a rookie, but still priced as one - Petruccelle has been doing really well and with LeCras (retired) and Cripps (won't be ready) he is looking like the frontrunner to get first crack at the moment
123k FWD
Won't score well, but I'll plonk him on the bench as a placeholder for the time being
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 07, 2019, 05:02:10 PM
Someone asked about WCE rookies recently and I think both Ele and I said no chance
He's not a rookie, but still priced as one - Petruccelle has been doing really well and with LeCras (retired) and Cripps (won't be ready) he is looking like the frontrunner to get first crack at the moment
123k FWD
Won't score well, but I'll plonk him on the bench as a placeholder for the time being
Question for you and other WC supporters, Bailey Williams, how's he going? Thought his DPP might be handy in the event he gets a game?
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Having listened to Leon Cameron's Ask The Coach, I would say Hately is the only rookie who is a remote chance of possibly playing Round 1
Been a placeholder in my side since SC opened. Kid looks the goods.
Been in my side since the start too, but like I said he'd be a remote chance. It's either him (low % chance) or nobody, so there's every chance he won't line up R1
I've just changed him to Bennell as the placeholder - allocates more cash that way too
I'd rather Bennell but let's be honest, he's probably less of a chance to play lol
Quote from: Bully on February 07, 2019, 05:28:20 PM
Question for you and other WC supporters, Bailey Williams, how's he going? Thought his DPP might be handy in the event he gets a game?
I'd think he would need multiple injuries to get a look in
Hickey and Vardy will ruck, with McInnes probably being the reserve
NicNat is looking to return around Round 10ish or so I believe as well
might have the Fyfe/Bennell/Bewley combo if all playing rnd 1
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 07, 2019, 05:54:19 PM
might have the Fyfe/Bennell/Bewley combo if all playing rnd 1
Got that combo atm, and apparently that North kid could be a smokey chance to play
Carn Ross! Hook us up for once!
will anyone only go with 2 or 3 premo mids and the rest rookies if we get enough options to allow it? like curtis taylor would be good with DPP so if needed can swing a fwd in
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 07, 2019, 08:00:24 PM
will anyone only go with 2 or 3 premo mids and the rest rookies if we get enough options to allow it? like curtis taylor would be good with DPP so if needed can swing a fwd in
I had Miles at M4 recently, but I've moved him to M5
Can't have a rookie at M4
Any word on how Nick Blakey is tracking and if a chance for R1?
I've done some searches but can't find anything recent
Carlton have signed Gibbons
and Cottrell dunno much about him
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Carlton have signed Gibbons
Was only a matter of time. Locked at M11 - hopefully he'll be 102k, but even at 123k it's a bargain. Wonder when he gets added to SC? Hopefully soon
Quote from: Fid on February 08, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
Any word on how Nick Blakey is tracking and if a chance for R1?
I've done some searches but can't find anything recent
Had an ankle injury - only resumed training a week or so ago.
Michael Gibbons at $102K as a mid, expected to be available midweek.
Source JB Dr.SuperCoach
Reckon I can find room for him.
Quote from: Fid on February 08, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
Any word on how Nick Blakey is tracking and if a chance for R1?
I've done some searches but can't find anything recent
a week or so back.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-02-01/prized-swans-draftee-blakey-shines-during-intraclub-hitout
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Any word on how Nick Blakey is tracking and if a chance for R1?
I've done some searches but can't find anything recent
a week or so back.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-02-01/prized-swans-draftee-blakey-shines-during-intraclub-hitout
thanks
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Went from lowest price possibilities up
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Went from lowest price possibilities up
Can see a maximum of 4/5/1/5 on each line playing round 1 out of those listed
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Went from lowest price possibilities up
Can see a maximum of 4/5/1/5 on each line playing round 1 out of those listed
With 6.2 million left replace the ones you cant see playing with premos and your on a winner
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Question for you and other WC supporters, Bailey Williams, how's he going? Thought his DPP might be handy in the event he gets a game?
I'd think he would need multiple injuries to get a look in
Hickey and Vardy will ruck, with McInnes probably being the reserve
NicNat is looking to return around Round 10ish or so I believe as well
Absolutely no hope for bailey Williams
Petrucelle will probably play due to injuries to Cripps and venables.
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Question for you and other WC supporters, Bailey Williams, how's he going? Thought his DPP might be handy in the event he gets a game?
I'd think he would need multiple injuries to get a look in
Hickey and Vardy will ruck, with McInnes probably being the reserve
NicNat is looking to return around Round 10ish or so I believe as well
Absolutely no hope for bailey Williams
Petrucelle will probably play due to injuries to Cripps and venables.
A chance for a game at any stage? Was just toying with the idea of R3 if Fort doesn't play, could be a loophole early & then perhaps make some $$ mid season. I know he's already 98kg & can play forward so can cover two lines.
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Question for you and other WC supporters, Bailey Williams, how's he going? Thought his DPP might be handy in the event he gets a game?
I'd think he would need multiple injuries to get a look in
Hickey and Vardy will ruck, with McInnes probably being the reserve
NicNat is looking to return around Round 10ish or so I believe as well
Absolutely no hope for bailey Williams
Petrucelle will probably play due to injuries to Cripps and venables.
A chance for a game at any stage? Was just toying with the idea of R3 if Fort doesn't play, could be a loophole early & then perhaps make some $$ mid season. I know he's already 98kg & can play forward so can cover two lines.
Like I said, only chance would be if all of our talls went down, so you'd think he's no chance
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Question for you and other WC supporters, Bailey Williams, how's he going? Thought his DPP might be handy in the event he gets a game?
I'd think he would need multiple injuries to get a look in
Hickey and Vardy will ruck, with McInnes probably being the reserve
NicNat is looking to return around Round 10ish or so I believe as well
Absolutely no hope for bailey Williams
Petrucelle will probably play due to injuries to Cripps and venables.
A chance for a game at any stage? Was just toying with the idea of R3 if Fort doesn't play, could be a loophole early & then perhaps make some $$ mid season. I know he's already 98kg & can play forward so can cover two lines.
Like I said, only chance would be if all of our talls went down, so you'd think he's no chance
Pretty sure he is in the rehab group anyway (Williams). Was only doing skills work at a recent open training session. Would be shocked to see him get a game, but hey, our current 3 ruckmen ahead of him are Hickey, Vardy and Brooksby so he's every chance :P
Michael Gibbons' last 5 #SuperCoach scores in the VFL last season - 128, 125, 171, 135 and 118. #2019AFLProspectus
If he’s named R1 as a 102k mid he may rival Danger as the most popular player.
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Question for you and other WC supporters, Bailey Williams, how's he going? Thought his DPP might be handy in the event he gets a game?
I'd think he would need multiple injuries to get a look in
Hickey and Vardy will ruck, with McInnes probably being the reserve
NicNat is looking to return around Round 10ish or so I believe as well
Absolutely no hope for bailey Williams
Petrucelle will probably play due to injuries to Cripps and venables.
A chance for a game at any stage? Was just toying with the idea of R3 if Fort doesn't play, could be a loophole early & then perhaps make some $$ mid season. I know he's already 98kg & can play forward so can cover two lines.
Like I said, only chance would be if all of our talls went down, so you'd think he's no chance
Pretty sure he is in the rehab group anyway (Williams). Was only doing skills work at a recent open training session. Would be shocked to see him get a game, but hey, our current 3 ruckmen ahead of him are Hickey, Vardy and Brooksby so he's every chance :P
If JJK goes down who's in the pipeline? Just asking because I see Williams as a forward/ruck, from his TAC year he was also the number 1 player for contested marks. Don't see Brander as a genuine KP prospect either, so not sure who plays deep forward.
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Quote from: Bully on February 07, 2019, 05:28:20 PM
Question for you and other WC supporters, Bailey Williams, how's he going? Thought his DPP might be handy in the event he gets a game?
I'd think he would need multiple injuries to get a look in
Hickey and Vardy will ruck, with McInnes probably being the reserve
NicNat is looking to return around Round 10ish or so I believe as well
Absolutely no hope for bailey Williams
Petrucelle will probably play due to injuries to Cripps and venables.
A chance for a game at any stage? Was just toying with the idea of R3 if Fort doesn't play, could be a loophole early & then perhaps make some $$ mid season. I know he's already 98kg & can play forward so can cover two lines.
Like I said, only chance would be if all of our talls went down, so you'd think he's no chance
Pretty sure he is in the rehab group anyway (Williams). Was only doing skills work at a recent open training session. Would be shocked to see him get a game, but hey, our current 3 ruckmen ahead of him are Hickey, Vardy and Brooksby so he's every chance :P
If JJK goes down who's in the pipeline? Just asking because I see Williams as a forward/ruck, from his TAC year he was also the number 1 player for contested marks. Don't see Brander as a genuine KP prospect either, so not sure who plays deep forward.
Darling, then possibly Vardy
We've got a lot of good smalls too, so similar to recent Richmond really with just Jroo and smalls.
We'll adjust, but either way Williams is a long term prospect and he'd be next to zero chance of playing
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Quote from: Bully on February 07, 2019, 05:28:20 PM
Question for you and other WC supporters, Bailey Williams, how's he going? Thought his DPP might be handy in the event he gets a game?
I'd think he would need multiple injuries to get a look in
Hickey and Vardy will ruck, with McInnes probably being the reserve
NicNat is looking to return around Round 10ish or so I believe as well
Absolutely no hope for bailey Williams
Petrucelle will probably play due to injuries to Cripps and venables.
A chance for a game at any stage? Was just toying with the idea of R3 if Fort doesn't play, could be a loophole early & then perhaps make some $$ mid season. I know he's already 98kg & can play forward so can cover two lines.
Like I said, only chance would be if all of our talls went down, so you'd think he's no chance
Pretty sure he is in the rehab group anyway (Williams). Was only doing skills work at a recent open training session. Would be shocked to see him get a game, but hey, our current 3 ruckmen ahead of him are Hickey, Vardy and Brooksby so he's every chance :P
If JJK goes down who's in the pipeline? Just asking because I see Williams as a forward/ruck, from his TAC year he was also the number 1 player for contested marks. Don't see Brander as a genuine KP prospect either, so not sure who plays deep forward.
Yeah pretty much Darling, Vardy then MAllen, Waterman, Brander and OAllen are all key possie prospects that would come in before Williams (would never play 3 rucks, so the JJK point is moot imo)
Would need 2 of Hickey, Vardy and Brooksby to go down and even then I could see us running 1 ruck with JD/Gov chopping out if it's short term.
Then add Nic Nat back into the fold around the byes.
Hes a long long term prospect so all I'm saying is dont hold your breath :p
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Quote from: Bully on February 07, 2019, 05:28:20 PM
Question for you and other WC supporters, Bailey Williams, how's he going? Thought his DPP might be handy in the event he gets a game?
I'd think he would need multiple injuries to get a look in
Hickey and Vardy will ruck, with McInnes probably being the reserve
NicNat is looking to return around Round 10ish or so I believe as well
Absolutely no hope for bailey Williams
Petrucelle will probably play due to injuries to Cripps and venables.
A chance for a game at any stage? Was just toying with the idea of R3 if Fort doesn't play, could be a loophole early & then perhaps make some $$ mid season. I know he's already 98kg & can play forward so can cover two lines.
Like I said, only chance would be if all of our talls went down, so you'd think he's no chance
Pretty sure he is in the rehab group anyway (Williams). Was only doing skills work at a recent open training session. Would be shocked to see him get a game, but hey, our current 3 ruckmen ahead of him are Hickey, Vardy and Brooksby so he's every chance :P
If JJK goes down who's in the pipeline? Just asking because I see Williams as a forward/ruck, from his TAC year he was also the number 1 player for contested marks. Don't see Brander as a genuine KP prospect either, so not sure who plays deep forward.
Yeah pretty much Darling, Vardy then MAllen, Waterman, Brander and OAllen are all key possie prospects that would come in before Williams (would never play 3 rucks, so the JJK point is moot imo)
Would need 2 of Hickey, Vardy and Brooksby to go down and even then I could see us running 1 ruck with JD/Gov chopping out if it's short term.
Then add Nic Nat back into the fold around the byes.
Hes a long long term prospect so all I'm saying is dont hold your breath :p
I would of thought all of Oscar Allen brander and waterman would be easily ahead of williams at this stage .... trust me boys brander can play. He will be a star of this Comp at some point
"CARLTON SIGNINGS
New Carlton recruits Michael Gibbons and Matthew Cottrell have now been added to Supercoach at $102,400. Gibbons is a MID only and Cottrell has DPP status as a MID/FWD.
Do these players make it into your starting team?"
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 11, 2019, 10:08:38 AM
"CARLTON SIGNINGS
New Carlton recruits Michael Gibbons and Matthew Cottrell have now been added to Supercoach at $102,400. Gibbons is a MID only and Cottrell has DPP status as a MID/FWD.
Do these players make it into your starting team?"
I mean they're both 102k, so if they play round 1 they'll be in everyone's team ::)
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Quote from: Keeper27 on February 11, 2019, 10:08:38 AM
"CARLTON SIGNINGS
New Carlton recruits Michael Gibbons and Matthew Cottrell have now been added to Supercoach at $102,400. Gibbons is a MID only and Cottrell has DPP status as a MID/FWD.
Do these players make it into your starting team?"
I mean they're both 102k, so if they play round 1 they'll be in everyone's team ::)
;D don't shoot the messenger
Just passing on what i saw LOL
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 11, 2019, 10:29:10 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 11, 2019, 10:10:31 AM
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 11, 2019, 10:08:38 AM
"CARLTON SIGNINGS
New Carlton recruits Michael Gibbons and Matthew Cottrell have now been added to Supercoach at $102,400. Gibbons is a MID only and Cottrell has DPP status as a MID/FWD.
Do these players make it into your starting team?"
I mean they're both 102k, so if they play round 1 they'll be in everyone's team ::)
;D don't shoot the messenger
Just passing on what i saw LOL
Haha yeah was aimed at the person you quoted ;)
if all 3 of Gibbons, Setterfield and Cottrell play rnd 1 would be silly not having them all and since Setters and Cottrel are M/F
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 11, 2019, 11:30:56 AM
if all 3 of Gibbons, Setterfield and Cottrell play rnd 1 would be silly not having them all and since Setters and Cottrel are M/F
Setters and Gibbons yes, Cottrell I'm not sure about yet - no real idea about his SC output. If he plays a role that isn't SC friendly then I won't touch him
After talking to someone inside Carlton:
Gibbons is extremely likely to line up round 1. Has not missed a beat along with Walsh.
Setterfield is set to start full training this week and is expected to play in the JLT. Tracking along nicely for round 1.
Williamson is a week or so away from full training but will most likely start in the VFL.
Stocker has a lot of work to do to get up to AFL standard. Has to build his tank.
Cottrell adds good depth but unlikely to start round 1.
Goddard isn’t in best 22 at this stage but could start round 1 depending on injuries.
We pretty much knew all that anyways but it is good to know.
Hopefully Williamson doesn't come in like round 2 or 3
Brb putting the house on Walsh for rising star
Also Richmond Player Sydney Stack added as mid only at $102,400
I bloke at work was raving about Callum Wilkie, St Kilda's 22 year old rookie who played for Nth Adelaide and starred in the GF last year.
Last seasons highlight package looks pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRCxK71RDnk
Quote from: Fid on February 12, 2019, 04:44:49 PM
I bloke at work was raving about Callum Wilkie, St Kilda's 22 year old rookie who played for Nth Adelaide and starred in the GF last year.
Last seasons highlight package looks pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRCxK71RDnk
Yeah Wilkie will play for sure at one point this year. I was hoping he would start R1, but last I've heard he might be a better chance of being a downgrade target for us
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Quote from: Fid on February 12, 2019, 04:44:49 PM
I bloke at work was raving about Callum Wilkie, St Kilda's 22 year old rookie who played for Nth Adelaide and starred in the GF last year.
Last seasons highlight package looks pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRCxK71RDnk
Yeah Wilkie will play for sure at one point this year. I was hoping he would start R1, but last I've heard he might be a better chance of being a downgrade target for us
What did you hear RD?
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 12, 2019, 04:46:15 PM
Quote from: Fid on February 12, 2019, 04:44:49 PM
I bloke at work was raving about Callum Wilkie, St Kilda's 22 year old rookie who played for Nth Adelaide and starred in the GF last year.
Last seasons highlight package looks pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRCxK71RDnk
Yeah Wilkie will play for sure at one point this year. I was hoping he would start R1, but last I've heard he might be a better chance of being a downgrade target for us
What did you hear RD?
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 12, 2019, 04:46:15 PM
he might be a better chance of being a downgrade target for us
Lel Nige
It was nothing major Fid - might have been "The Phantom" suggesting that he might be a downgrade option as the Saints seem to have quite a few running defenders now, and Hind would get the nod over him
Found this too
While also falling short in the race to snare Dylan Shiel, Richardson believes the next wave of St Kilda midfielders could be unearthed internally due to the arrival of readymade talent.
"What it's given us are some tools and some choice, potentially," Richardson said.
"(We say) OK, you blokes (Parker and Young), you're probably going to play forward initially, that might allow (Jade) Gresham and (Jack) Billings to play more midfield.
interesting so young hould be an option for us to along with parker who we expected to be playing
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 12, 2019, 05:29:24 PM(Jack) Billings to play more midfield.
Im personally glad that i didnt jump on the Billings train last year but he's really gotta show some quality mid time in the JLT before he even gets a look.
for his price I'd rather scrounge another 40K and grab Walters or jack Martin TBH
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 12, 2019, 05:29:24 PM(Jack) Billings to play more midfield.
Im personally glad that i didnt jump on the Billings train last year but he's really gotta show some quality mid time in the JLT before he even gets a look.
for his price I'd rather scrounge another 40K and grab Walters or jack Martin TBH
This has flower all to do with rookies but Gresham might be a better pick than Billings
Valente running straight lines still and not participating so we can put a line through him (although I think most expected he wouldn't play R1 anyway)
Luke Meadows from West Perth is being touted as a possible player that Hawthorn might draft in, and could be a Titch replacement
Averaged 109SC last year, maturer ager too
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 13, 2019, 06:50:02 PM
Valente running straight lines still and not participating so we can put a line through him (although I think most expected he wouldn't play R1 anyway)
Luke Meadows from West Perth is being touted as a possible player that Hawthorn might draft in, and could be a Titch replacement
Averaged 109SC last year, maturer ager too
Thanks RD. Any news on Tobe Watson?
and North?
I haven't heard squat about either, so I am not expecting any of them to be a chance of lining up R1
Just because Cerra mentioned North, I'm not sure that's really much to get our hopes up on
Bewley and Logue would be the likely Freo's rookies/cheap guys to play R1 I would have thought
I'm curious with LDU but from what I read North are likely to ease him in and he could see an early VFL stint which would put a line through him. Probably enough mid rookies though not to worry. Walsh as an expensive option is teasing me
I think the McKay twin at North will get games this season, as he's touted as Thompsons replacement who should retire this year. So they'll need to get games into him. And now Tarrant has done a shoulder, I would put the house on it McKay will play Rnd 1. Ben McKay $123k DEF keep an eye on him in JLT.
Quote from: frenzy on February 14, 2019, 12:48:41 PM
I think the McKay twin at North will get games this season, as he's touted as Thompsons replacement who should retire this year. So they'll need to get games into him. And now Tarrant has done a shoulder, I would put the house on it McKay will play Rnd 1. Ben McKay $123k DEF keep an eye on him in JLT.
certainly one to keep an eye on.
EVW i think comes in for Daw and Tarrant is supposed to be back for round 1.
Durdin will be back healthy at some point too and put pressure on Mckay if he gets a spot and doesnt peform.
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Quote from: frenzy on February 14, 2019, 12:48:41 PM
I think the McKay twin at North will get games this season, as he's touted as Thompsons replacement who should retire this year. So they'll need to get games into him. And now Tarrant has done a shoulder, I would put the house on it McKay will play Rnd 1. Ben McKay $123k DEF keep an eye on him in JLT.
certainly one to keep an eye on.
EVW i think comes in for Daw and Tarrant is supposed to be back for round 1.
Durdin will be back healthy at some point too and put pressure on Mckay if he gets a spot and doesnt peform.
found this today after i posted, but still think McKay is frontrunner.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-02-14/roos-consider-state-league-talent-to-bolster-backline
Wigg out for the season. Scratch him from your plans. Sometimes it seems like it's just not meant to be.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gold-coast/gold-coast-sun-harrison-wigg-to-miss-season-after-knee-injury-shock/news-story/e6d0317a81b5269a6ee7f18656d12d7e
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 13, 2019, 06:50:02 PM
Luke Meadows from West Perth is being touted as a possible player that Hawthorn might draft in, and could be a Titch replacement
Averaged 109SC last year, maturer ager too
Can play
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-02-15/power-draftees-shine-in-impressive-intraclub-hitout
Going to be so many rookies playing RD1 ::)
Quote from: Gigantor on February 15, 2019, 09:17:32 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-02-15/power-draftees-shine-in-impressive-intraclub-hitout
Going to be so many rookies playing RD1 ::)
Duursma on a wing sounds like like the pick of the bunch!
From a Brisbane perspective based on intra club I would say only Ely Smith from the new draftees would be chance,
From others that are rookie priced due to not yet playing Connor McFadyen, Jack Payne, Sam Skinner, Connor Ballandeen may be chances as well.
Zac Bailey was another standout but at $275k may be a little expensive but has the F/M DPP. Think based on the Intraclub he would be in front of Lincoln McCarthy. In the last intraclub he was also used across HB,
Quote from: Ringo on February 16, 2019, 07:24:16 AM
From a Brisbane perspective based on intra club I would say only Ely Smith from the new draftees would be chance,
From others that are rookie priced due to not yet playing Connor McFadyen, Jack Payne, Sam Skinner, Connor Ballandeen may be chances as well.
Zac Bailey was another standout but at $275k may be a little expensive but has the F/M DPP. Think based on the Intraclub he would be in front of Lincoln McCarthy. In the last intraclub he was also used across HB,
Had Smith plonked at M7-M9 all season. Kid looks like a jet.
I've been pretty dire about the def rookies, and have constantly said that we'd need to go deeper down back
I stand by that, in terms of cheaper rookies because I still think Burgess and Hore are the only two with a chance to play R1
But, it is starting to look like we should have enough of the pricier ones
Rozee, Collins, Logue, Quaynor and possibly Duursma are all looking good, and Darcy Moore (240k) is also a real option
I think we can safely place 3 of these pricier guys at D4-6 now, and Duursma/Burgess/Hore for the bench
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 16, 2019, 09:02:22 AM
I've been pretty dire about the def rookies, and have constantly said that we'd need to go deeper down back
I stand by that, in terms of cheaper rookies because I still think Burgess and Hore are the only two with a chance to play R1
But, it is starting to look like we should have enough of the pricier ones
Rozee, Collins, Logue, Quaynor and possibly Duursma are all looking good, and Darcy Moore (240k) is also a real option
I think we can safely place 3 of these pricier guys at D4-6 now, and Duursma/Burgess/Hore for the bench
I think McLennan from GC is a good chance as well. Kid can play.
I heard good things about Tobe Watson early as well but haven’t heard much since which isn’t usually the best.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 16, 2019, 09:02:22 AM
I've been pretty dire about the def rookies, and have constantly said that we'd need to go deeper down back
I stand by that, in terms of cheaper rookies because I still think Burgess and Hore are the only two with a chance to play R1
But, it is starting to look like we should have enough of the pricier ones
Rozee, Collins, Logue, Quaynor and possibly Duursma are all looking good, and Darcy Moore (240k) is also a real option
I think we can safely place 3 of these pricier guys at D4-6 now, and Duursma/Burgess/Hore for the bench
I think McLennan from GC is a good chance as well. Kid can play.
I heard good things about Tobe Watson early as well but haven’t heard much since which isn’t usually the best.
McLennan and Watson next to no chance of playing round 1 at this stage.
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Quote from: Money Shot on February 16, 2019, 09:53:44 AM
I think McLennan from GC is a good chance as well. Kid can play.
I heard good things about Tobe Watson early as well but haven’t heard much since which isn’t usually the best.
McLennan and Watson next to no chance of playing round 1 at this stage.
For some reason McLennan is getting hyped because GC traded up to get him in the draft and really wanted him
That's what is giving people false hope. Just because they wanted him doesn't mean he just plays Round 1
I have literally not heard a single thing about him come out of GC all summer, so I completely agree with you Ben
Collins and Burgess are the only two Suns that are a chance
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Quote from: Money Shot on February 16, 2019, 09:53:44 AM
I think McLennan from GC is a good chance as well. Kid can play.
I heard good things about Tobe Watson early as well but haven’t heard much since which isn’t usually the best.
McLennan and Watson next to no chance of playing round 1 at this stage.
For some reason McLennan is getting hyped because GC traded up to get him in the draft and really wanted him
That's what is giving people false hope. Just because they wanted him doesn't mean he just plays Round 1
I have literally not heard a single thing about him come out of GC all summer, so I completely agree with you Ben
Collins and Burgess are the only two Suns that are a chance
Agree McLennan next to no chance of playing.
Not even a mention in this article on Suns defence so quite a few ahead of him. Also interestingly Collins not mentioned either,
http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2019-02-15/drummonds-defenders-cause-for-opposition-doubt
The coach stopped short of declaring Hore, an intercepting defender recruited from Collingwood's VFL side as a mature-age player, and Sparrow, a powerful 18-year-old midfielder, as chances for an early season debut, but revealed both were in calculations to see some pre-season action.
"Marty's a little more mature and he's had to find his way after missing out on the draft three times. He's had a really good summer and he's really emerging in our group and understanding the way we play," Goodwin said.
"Tom Sparrow similarly. He's come in, he's done the work and he's embraced what we do, and he's getting a great understanding of what is required.
"We certainly won't be putting pressure on our new players or our draftees to come in and play. They'll play when they're ready."
How many are going with Walsh? Pretty expensive, what would he need to average to get similar price rises to a decent low priced rookie?
Quote from: oh_lol on February 17, 2019, 05:38:57 PM
How many are going with Walsh? Pretty expensive, what would he need to average to get similar price rises to a decent low priced rookie?
You pick someone like Walsh for the js and consistent slow burn not massive cash generation
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Quote from: Keeper27 on February 11, 2019, 10:08:38 AM
"CARLTON SIGNINGS
New Carlton recruits Michael Gibbons and Matthew Cottrell have now been added to Supercoach at $102,400. Gibbons is a MID only and Cottrell has DPP status as a MID/FWD.
Do these players make it into your starting team?"
I mean they're both 102k, so if they play round 1 they'll be in everyone's team ::)
;D don't shoot the messenger
Just passing on what i saw LOL
Haha yeah was aimed at the person you quoted ;)
Lol eff off mate, just because they’re cheap doesn’t mean you’re forced to select them. If they have poor JS then it doesn’t matter the cost, they won’t be worth it. Lachie Murphy 102k last year rings a bell, certainly better options about than him.
And just to be to clear, this is aimed at SilverLion, not the person you quoted ;)
Quote from: Gigantor on February 17, 2019, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: oh_lol on February 17, 2019, 05:38:57 PM
How many are going with Walsh? Pretty expensive, what would he need to average to get similar price rises to a decent low priced rookie?
You pick someone like Walsh for the js and consistent slow burn not massive cash generation
Walsh looks like he will certainly be a really good player, but at his price you'd need regular 80+ scores to get that cash gen moving. A few sub 70 scores and it's disastrous, so for that reason I'm not starting him, especially because I'm confident I'll have enough cheap mid rookies to select
Quote from: Holz on February 14, 2019, 04:45:13 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 14, 2019, 12:48:41 PM
I think the McKay twin at North will get games this season, as he's touted as Thompsons replacement who should retire this year. So they'll need to get games into him. And now Tarrant has done a shoulder, I would put the house on it McKay will play Rnd 1. Ben McKay $123k DEF keep an eye on him in JLT.
certainly one to keep an eye on.
EVW i think comes in for Daw and Tarrant is supposed to be back for round 1.
Durdin will be back healthy at some point too and put pressure on Mckay if he gets a spot and doesnt peform.
Forgot to mention Thompson's out suspension first two rounds, McKay is a monty.
Quote from: frenzy on February 17, 2019, 07:46:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 14, 2019, 04:45:13 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 14, 2019, 12:48:41 PM
I think the McKay twin at North will get games this season, as he's touted as Thompsons replacement who should retire this year. So they'll need to get games into him. And now Tarrant has done a shoulder, I would put the house on it McKay will play Rnd 1. Ben McKay $123k DEF keep an eye on him in JLT.
certainly one to keep an eye on.
EVW i think comes in for Daw and Tarrant is supposed to be back for round 1.
Durdin will be back healthy at some point too and put pressure on Mckay if he gets a spot and doesnt peform.
Forgot to mention Thompson's out suspension first two rounds, McKay is a monty.
Monty to be dropped before he makes any cash? :P
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 17, 2019, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 17, 2019, 07:46:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 14, 2019, 04:45:13 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 14, 2019, 12:48:41 PM
I think the McKay twin at North will get games this season, as he's touted as Thompsons replacement who should retire this year. So they'll need to get games into him. And now Tarrant has done a shoulder, I would put the house on it McKay will play Rnd 1. Ben McKay $123k DEF keep an eye on him in JLT.
certainly one to keep an eye on.
EVW i think comes in for Daw and Tarrant is supposed to be back for round 1.
Durdin will be back healthy at some point too and put pressure on Mckay if he gets a spot and doesnt peform.
Forgot to mention Thompson's out suspension first two rounds, McKay is a monty.
Monty to be dropped before he makes any cash? :P
Can happen to the best of them. ;)
Just curious, do you have an insider at the VFL?
Cats pair Tom Atkins and recruit Gary Rohan both assumed roles in the front half.
Midfielder Charlie Constable clocked up big minutes in the midfield alongside Dangerfield
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 20, 2019, 04:27:55 PM
Cats pair Tom Atkins and recruit Gary Rohan both assumed roles in the front half.
Midfielder Charlie Constable clocked up big minutes in the midfield alongside Dangerfield
Juicy
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 20, 2019, 04:27:55 PM
Cats pair Tom Atkins and recruit Gary Rohan both assumed roles in the front half.
Midfielder Charlie Constable clocked up big minutes in the midfield alongside Dangerfield
Yeah great but how did Charlie go??
.... trust me boys brander can play. He will be a star of this Comp at some point
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+1
brander who?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 20, 2019, 11:37:40 PM
brander who?
https://m.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2017-11-24/pick-13-jarrod-brander
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 20, 2019, 11:37:40 PM
brander who?
classic pricktorian bias, and Brander is Victorian!
Atley and Ling were small chances of Round 1 debut's but both are no chance with injuries now
Corbett was a lock, but he's now injured too which means he'll be likely to start in the NEAFL as he is out for 4 weeks now :'(
Pretty big out - was an important fwd rookie
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 20, 2019, 04:27:55 PM
Cats pair Tom Atkins and recruit Gary Rohan both assumed roles in the front half.
Midfielder Charlie Constable clocked up big minutes in the midfield alongside Dangerfield
Sounds good. I was hoping Atkins could get a small pressure forward role AKA ZGL Puopolo etc. due to his elite tackling numbers in the VFL. There is a spot there with Lincoln & Menzel gone. FF: Ablett Hawkins Atkins for Round 1? Wishful thinking? I will settle for a spot on the bench.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 21, 2019, 12:40:07 PM
Atley and Ling were small chances of Round 1 debut's but both are no chance with injuries now
Corbett was a lock, but he's now injured too which means he'll be likely to start in the NEAFL as he is out for 4 weeks now :'(
Pretty big out - was an important fwd rookie
FWD rookies looking dodgy now with no Corbett. Most including myself have Cavarra & Parker but I doubt either will get a gig round 1. Hopefully Petracelle gets a gig. I think Stoddart for a little extra might get a gig. Tho probs only scores 45 - 50 at best. Rozee plays but he aint cheap. Goes to show what a complete waste of time it is tinkering with your team until the Round 1 rookies are named. The entire structure has to be catered to which ones in what positions actually get named. At this stage I think I may have to axe 2 premo mids for 2 extra premo fwds with Setters going from F3 to F5.
Quote from: HappyDEZ on February 21, 2019, 02:06:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 21, 2019, 12:40:07 PM
Atley and Ling were small chances of Round 1 debut's but both are no chance with injuries now
Corbett was a lock, but he's now injured too which means he'll be likely to start in the NEAFL as he is out for 4 weeks now :'(
Pretty big out - was an important fwd rookie
FWD rookies looking dodgy now with no Corbett. Most including myself have Cavarra & Parker but I doubt either will get a gig round 1. Hopefully Petracelle gets a gig. I think Stoddart for a little extra might get a gig. Tho probs only scores 45 - 50 at best. Rozee plays but he aint cheap. Goes to show what a complete waste of time it is tinkering with your team until the Round 1 rookies are named. The entire structure has to be catered to which ones in what positions actually get named. At this stage I think I may have to axe 2 premo mids for 2 extra premo fwds with Setters going from F3 to F5.
If Setters doesn't get up for round 1 (definite possibility) I may be fielding Moore at F6
Seb Ross on Matt Parker, FWD ($117.3k) yesterday ... “he can come through the midfield and he’s a really hard match-up. He’s long and rangy, but also super quick and can really jump and take marks. And he’s really fit, so we should be able to get a lot out of him as well."
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I think the McKay twin at North will get games this season, as he's touted as Thompsons replacement who should retire this year. So they'll need to get games into him. And now Tarrant has done a shoulder, I would put the house on it McKay will play Rnd 1. Ben McKay $123k DEF keep an eye on him in JLT.
certainly one to keep an eye on.
EVW i think comes in for Daw and Tarrant is supposed to be back for round 1.
Durdin will be back healthy at some point too and put pressure on Mckay if he gets a spot and doesnt peform.
Forgot to mention Thompson's out suspension first two rounds, McKay is a monty.
Monty to be dropped before he makes any cash? :P
Just read on Twitter that Durdin has injured his finger opening some food.
North Melbourne is set to ban him from using metal utensils from now on.
These guys might have half a chance of playing round 1 ? I don't know how they fit into best 22 though?
Robert Young - Stk
Taken with pick No. 67 in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft, Young is a speed machine who is renowned for his defensive pressure and goal-sense. The 23-year-old was part of North Adelaide’s premiership side in 2018 and impressed with Port Adelaide before joining the Roosters.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-23/saints-go-for-readymade-players-with-matureaged-trio
Shane McAdam - Adel
Initially selected by Carlton as a mature-aged pre-draft access pick, Shane McAdam was quickly traded to the Crows in 2018. A medium-sized forward, McAdam equaled Nic Naitanui’s running vertical jump record at the 2015 Draft Combine but was overlooked. He booted 31 goals in 17 games for Sturt in a superb 2017 SANFL season, catching the attention of Adelaide’s recruiting team
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2018-10-11/shane-mcadams-rise-to-the-afl
Quote from: Football Factory on February 21, 2019, 02:43:43 PM
These guys might have half a chance of playing round 1 ? I don't know how they fit into best 22 though?
Robert Young - Stk
Taken with pick No. 67 in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft, Young is a speed machine who is renowned for his defensive pressure and goal-sense. The 23-year-old was part of North Adelaide’s premiership side in 2018 and impressed with Port Adelaide before joining the Roosters.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-23/saints-go-for-readymade-players-with-matureaged-trio
Shane McAdam - Adel
Initially selected by Carlton as a mature-aged pre-draft access pick, Shane McAdam was quickly traded to the Crows in 2018. A medium-sized forward, McAdam equaled Nic Naitanui’s running vertical jump record at the 2015 Draft Combine but was overlooked. He booted 31 goals in 17 games for Sturt in a superb 2017 SANFL season, catching the attention of Adelaide’s recruiting team
http://www.afc.com.au/news/2018-10-11/shane-mcadams-rise-to-the-afl
Young has played 62 games in the SANFL and has kicked 60 goals with an average of 10 disposals and 62 Champion Data points a match
Pretty sure McAdam is no chance at the moment. Can't remember what and where I read something about him, but I remember it being pretty firm that he is next to no chance of playing Round 1
Can't see both Parker and Young starting either - so just have Parker as the place holder currently
Rozee and Rankine cost too much, Petrucelle a decent chance but you wouldn't want him on field at all and Cavarra/Setters are not locks at all
I'll go with Setters F5, Parker F6 and Cavarra/Petrucelle on the bench for now. Not great, but surely 4 rookies get up
And you're spot on DEZ, it is a waste of time as we need to wait on rookies, but we're all SC junkies so it's a fun waste of time ;)
Actually, I forgot about Dylan Moore - I just replaced Corbett with him
I heard he was doing well this summer, and just read that he is doing very well in the match vs Carlton right now too
Sam Walsh also looking very good according to observers at the match
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 21, 2019, 05:43:47 PM
Pretty sure McAdam is no chance at the moment. Can't remember what and where I read something about him, but I remember it being pretty firm that he is next to no chance of playing Round 1
Can't see both Parker and Young starting either - so just have Parker as the place holder currently
Rozee and Rankine cost too much, Petrucelle a decent chance but you wouldn't want him on field at all and Cavarra/Setters are not locks at all
I'll go with Setters F5, Parker F6 and Cavarra/Petrucelle on the bench for now. Not great, but surely 4 rookies get up
And you're spot on DEZ, it is a waste of time as we need to wait on rookies, but we're all SC junkies so it's a fun waste of time ;)
McAdam is next to no chance to start for Adelaide, but McHenry is quite possible.
Julian de Stoop -
Big wraps on James Cousins internally @HawthornFC and was very impressive against @CarltonFC this afternoon
Shame he's 220k
Quote from: Ricochet on February 21, 2019, 09:14:05 PM
Julian de Stoop -
Big wraps on James Cousins internally @HawthornFC and was very impressive against @CarltonFC this afternoon
Shame he's 220k
Yep, sounding like Cousins and Worp will spend a lot of time in the mid
Another name I keep hearing out of Hawthorn as well is Harry Jones - several times I've heard good things, and as a 123k DEF he could be a saviour
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 21, 2019, 05:55:54 PM
Actually, I forgot about Dylan Moore - I just replaced Corbett with him
I heard he was doing well this summer, and just read that he is doing very well in the match vs Carlton right now too
Sam Walsh also looking very good according to observers at the match
Can't wait to get his 40ppg
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 21, 2019, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 21, 2019, 09:14:05 PM
Julian de Stoop -
Big wraps on James Cousins internally @HawthornFC and was very impressive against @CarltonFC this afternoon
Shame he's 220k
Yep, sounding like Cousins and Worp will spend a lot of time in the mid
Another name I keep hearing out of Hawthorn as well is Harry Jones - several times I've heard good things, and as a 123k DEF he could be a saviour
Cousins is a jet. Jones is ok.
Quote from: Ricochet on February 21, 2019, 09:14:05 PM
Julian de Stoop -
Big wraps on James Cousins internally @HawthornFC and was very impressive against @CarltonFC this afternoon
Shame he's 220k
Big on this, wouldn't be surprised to see him go past Worp this year, hot take time
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 21, 2019, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 21, 2019, 09:14:05 PM
Julian de Stoop -
Big wraps on James Cousins internally @HawthornFC and was very impressive against @CarltonFC this afternoon
Shame he's 220k
Yep, sounding like Cousins and Worp will spend a lot of time in the mid
Another name I keep hearing out of Hawthorn as well is Harry Jones - several times I've heard good things, and as a 123k DEF he could be a saviour
Jones spent a lot of time starting in the Centre bounces in the scratch game yesterday. Could be a defensive placeholder for now.
Blakely will play Round 1, already slotted 2 goals today after an early injury scare. 160k but probably wont score much. Better than no rookie
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 22, 2019, 10:27:55 AM
Blakely will play Round 1, already slotted 2 goals today after an early injury scare. 160k but probably wont score much. Better than no rookie
Buddy touch and go for round 1 and Menzel a few weeks behind him. Blakely premo fwd 2019
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 21, 2019, 05:43:47 PM
Pretty sure McAdam is no chance at the moment. Can't remember what and where I read something about him, but I remember it being pretty firm that he is next to no chance of playing Round 1
Can't see both Parker and Young starting either - so just have Parker as the place holder currently
Rozee and Rankine cost too much, Petrucelle a decent chance but you wouldn't want him on field at all and Cavarra/Setters are not locks at all
I'll go with Setters F5, Parker F6 and Cavarra/Petrucelle on the bench for now. Not great, but surely 4 rookies get up
And you're spot on DEZ, it is a waste of time as we need to wait on rookies, but we're all SC junkies so it's a fun waste of time ;)
Yeah fair enough, just grasping at anything here lol, was hoping to start a couple of rooks in my forward line. AFL Fantasy and DT though not Supercoach.
Quote from: elephants on February 22, 2019, 10:29:14 AM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 22, 2019, 10:27:55 AM
Blakely will play Round 1, already slotted 2 goals today after an early injury scare. 160k but probably wont score much. Better than no rookie
Buddy touch and go for round 1 and Menzel a few weeks behind him. Blakely premo fwd 2019
Horse was asked about him recently and sung his praises but also said
"We're still mindful that he's only young and he'll still take time to build up physically so we consider that to be a priority for him. We believe he'll play some senior footy this year, not sure how much, but we're also aware that he needs to build up physically to withstand the rigours of AFL play"
Willem Drew apparently was very impressive in the Port/Adelaide U23 scratchie. Could be a RD1 chance with Wines out
Quote from: Ricochet on February 23, 2019, 02:52:15 PM
Willem Drew apparently was very impressive in the Port/Adelaide U23 scratchie. Could be a RD1 chance with Wines out
Very strong at the contest, would be a good pick I think.
Quote from: Ricochet on February 23, 2019, 02:52:15 PM
Willem Drew apparently was very impressive in the Port/Adelaide U23 scratchie. Could be a RD1 chance with Wines out
dont tell ringo
Best from Saints intra; Savage, McCartin, Roberton, Seaton (Sandringham), Joyce, Clark, Parker.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 23, 2019, 03:01:08 PM
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Willem Drew apparently was very impressive in the Port/Adelaide U23 scratchie. Could be a RD1 chance with Wines out
dont tell ringo
Put him on my watch list to replace Corbett. ;D
Shane McAdam kicked 3 goals in trial game vs port to
him and Drew a chance for rnd 1
From Lee Gaskin
"McHenry was impressive. Covered a lot of ground and kicked a classy goal. Duursma did some nice things as well"
if i see another team with Hind and Gibbons on the bench i'm gonna lose my sh1t
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 24, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
if i see another team with Hind and Gibbons on the bench i'm gonna lose my sh1t
Most people are only filling spots and will adjust when Rd 1 teams are named. Is Gibbons guaranteed a start Rd 1 for example. Judgement calls will be made as well.
Quote from: Ringo on February 24, 2019, 07:41:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 24, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
if i see another team with Hind and Gibbons on the bench i'm gonna lose my sh1t
Most people are only filling spots and will adjust when Rd 1 teams are named. Is Gibbons guaranteed a start Rd 1 for example. Judgement calls will be made as well.
it's disrespectful
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 24, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
if i see another team with Hind and Gibbons on the bench i'm gonna lose my sh1t
You want people to start them?
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Quote from: Ringo on February 24, 2019, 07:41:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 24, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
if i see another team with Hind and Gibbons on the bench i'm gonna lose my sh1t
Most people are only filling spots and will adjust when Rd 1 teams are named. Is Gibbons guaranteed a start Rd 1 for example. Judgement calls will be made as well.
it's disrespectful
Meh at this point most teams are sorted by price order
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Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 24, 2019, 07:48:35 PM
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Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 24, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
if i see another team with Hind and Gibbons on the bench i'm gonna lose my sh1t
Most people are only filling spots and will adjust when Rd 1 teams are named. Is Gibbons guaranteed a start Rd 1 for example. Judgement calls will be made as well.
it's disrespectful
Meh at this point most teams are sorted by price order
you dont need to have them on the field you just need to have them in your squad. Not every one of these mid rookies will kill it. plus you will likely be dropping 1-2 of them in the first 6-7 and then carrying the rest of them till the byes.
there will be injuries/suspensions to deal with too so just as long as you own the good rookies you will be fine.
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
I've actually got both Cousins and Walsh in the moment, but it's purely just place holding still. Both options, but I need to see more before making a call on them
Cousins, having been in the system longer, and with no Titch around seems like the front runner for mine. 75+ a real chance if he holds down a spot in the mids, and at 219k he should make some cash too but still need to see more before committing
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Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
I've actually got both Cousins and Walsh in the moment, but it's purely just place holding still. Both options, but I need to see more before making a call on them
Cousins, having been in the system longer, and with no Titch around seems like the front runner for mine. 75+ a real chance if he holds down a spot in the mids, and at 219k he should make some cash too but still need to see more before committing
If you knew he would play each week he is a great pick. And it's definitely possible. But I don't think it's certain. Too much of a selection/rotation risk. Clarko has definitely been known to drop well-performing younger players after a few games.
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Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
I've actually got both Cousins and Walsh in the moment, but it's purely just place holding still. Both options, but I need to see more before making a call on them
Cousins, having been in the system longer, and with no Titch around seems like the front runner for mine. 75+ a real chance if he holds down a spot in the mids, and at 219k he should make some cash too but still need to see more before committing
If you knew he would play each week he is a great pick. And it's definitely possible. But I don't think it's certain. Too much of a selection/rotation risk. Clarko has definitely been known to drop well-performing younger players after a few games.
When has he dropped well performing younger players? He definitely doesn't play them early on, he makes the younger guys really earn their spots but once they earn it they tend to stay there... Just look at Morrison, Hardwick, Sicily, Worpel etc. Cousins has been in the system a while now but never really cracked into the 22. This is his year.
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Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
I've actually got both Cousins and Walsh in the moment, but it's purely just place holding still. Both options, but I need to see more before making a call on them
Cousins, having been in the system longer, and with no Titch around seems like the front runner for mine. 75+ a real chance if he holds down a spot in the mids, and at 219k he should make some cash too but still need to see more before committing
If you knew he would play each week he is a great pick. And it's definitely possible. But I don't think it's certain. Too much of a selection/rotation risk. Clarko has definitely been known to drop well-performing younger players after a few games.
When has he dropped well performing younger players? He definitely doesn't play them early on, he makes the younger guys really earn their spots but once they earn it they tend to stay there... Just look at Morrison, Hardwick, Sicily, Worpel etc. Cousins has been in the system a while now but never really cracked into the 22. This is his year.
Would be an automatic selection in fwd ...
I have always liked him and the potential he promises.
Hard to pick.
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 25, 2019, 06:11:47 PM
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 25, 2019, 05:34:35 PM
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Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
I've actually got both Cousins and Walsh in the moment, but it's purely just place holding still. Both options, but I need to see more before making a call on them
Cousins, having been in the system longer, and with no Titch around seems like the front runner for mine. 75+ a real chance if he holds down a spot in the mids, and at 219k he should make some cash too but still need to see more before committing
If you knew he would play each week he is a great pick. And it's definitely possible. But I don't think it's certain. Too much of a selection/rotation risk. Clarko has definitely been known to drop well-performing younger players after a few games.
When has he dropped well performing younger players? He definitely doesn't play them early on, he makes the younger guys really earn their spots but once they earn it they tend to stay there... Just look at Morrison, Hardwick, Sicily, Worpel etc. Cousins has been in the system a while now but never really cracked into the 22. This is his year.
Over the past couple of seasons Howe, Brand, Mirra (conceded he wasn't young), Worpel, Cousins, Miles as promising developing players have only needed one or two sub-par performances (or in some cases reasonable games) to be out the following week.
I'm probably wrong, and would love to see Cousins go bang. If he plays it will be predominately mid. But they can't all be taking Titch's spot, and Harry Jones is another giving competition for that spot.
For my SC team, I just don't think it's a risk worth taking when Walsh is guaranteed if uninjured (am not considering both).
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 25, 2019, 05:34:35 PM
I've actually got both Cousins and Walsh in the moment, but it's purely just place holding still. Both options, but I need to see more before making a call on them
Cousins, having been in the system longer, and with no Titch around seems like the front runner for mine. 75+ a real chance if he holds down a spot in the mids, and at 219k he should make some cash too but still need to see more before committing
Same. There appears to be a lot of potential mid rookies. The 200k guys generally don't make a ton of cash quickly off the bat, but you're paying for the increase in points. I am going to the game on Thursday and really keen to check out Walsh. Everything says he will be in the engine room from day dot and it makes me think he is a can't miss rookie.
Cousins fits the other group of guys you want to pick. Heading into their 2nd or third season, moderately priced with opportunity available. He hasn't had big numbers yet in his 9 or so games, but he is definitely worth holding as a place holder.
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable
most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.
Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable
most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.
Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.
Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
Quote from: Pokerface on February 26, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable
most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.
Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.
Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
Could be one to keep an eye on
'He’s been a standout.. We’ve had him on the wing so far & he’s been playing well' - Matthew Nicks on Jackson Hately via @SportsdaySA
Quote from: Ricochet on February 26, 2019, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: Pokerface on February 26, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable
most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.
Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.
Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
Could be one to keep an eye on
'He’s been a standout.. We’ve had him on the wing so far & he’s been playing well' - Matthew Nicks on Jackson Hately via @SportsdaySA
Hasn't left my side
Quote from: Pokerface on February 26, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable
most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.
Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.
Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
There is, but there's also Taranto and Hopper who are hungry for mid time. Throw in Perryman who had some rude number of centre bounce attendances in their intra against Sydney. FTR though I like Hately, anyone that has a season of senior SANFL under his bet is always a sniff
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Quote from: Pokerface on February 26, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable
most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.
Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.
Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
Could be one to keep an eye on
'He’s been a standout.. We’ve had him on the wing so far & he’s been playing well' - Matthew Nicks on Jackson Hately via @SportsdaySA
Hasn't left my side
+1
Quote from: elephants on February 27, 2019, 12:07:28 AM
Quote from: Pokerface on February 26, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable
most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.
Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.
Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
There is, but there's also Taranto and Hopper who are hungry for mid time. Throw in Perryman who had some rude number of centre bounce attendances in their intra against Sydney. FTR though I like Hately, anyone that has a season of senior SANFL under his bet is always a sniff
He certainly ticks a lot of boxes. Good price, AFL ready body & reasonable fantasy scoring ability.
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Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?
Quote from: HappyDEZ on February 27, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?
he needs to avg 85 to reach $400K
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 27, 2019, 08:04:26 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on February 27, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?
he needs to avg 85 to reach $400K
Doesn't quite work like that
It's a week by week proposition. Pumping out regular big scores to keep the cash gen moving is what's required
At his price, a few 50-65 scores will halt the cash gen, and once he gets to 300k those scores hurt even more
He could very well get to 400k, but it's anybody's guess when that could happen. All I know is, he'll need to produce plenty of good scores to get there
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 27, 2019, 08:04:26 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on February 27, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?
he needs to avg 85 to reach $400K
I know I’m biased but I don’t think that’s unrealistic. Kid is already one of our best players ;D
Quote from: Money Shot on February 27, 2019, 09:01:24 AM
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Quote from: HappyDEZ on February 27, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?
he needs to avg 85 to reach $400K
I know I’m biased but I don’t think that’s unrealistic. Kid is already one of our best players ;D
he doesnt need to drop 85 and get up to 400k to be a decent pick. Most rookies you are looking at the realm of 100-125k price rise. Some of these 123k rookies go up above 250k+ but not all of them.
If he can put up a 70 and then rise 100k+ then thats a decent pick up. At 209k he has to do something crazy and go 80+ to be a great pick but realistically he just needs to be a solid pick because you need to compare him to what say the 5th or 6th best mid rookie will do
So its walsh v atkins/sparrow etc...
he has great JS and if guys like atkins sparrow cant string together 6-7 games at a 55+ average then walsh doesnt need to do anything special to beat that.
I currently dont have him as i have stacked my mids with 6 premos and then im happy with 4 out of the 5 mid rookies. If i cant find a solid 5th sparrow or atkins then walsh and cousins have to come into the equation.
Just need to be realisitic on what you can expect from the 4th or 5th best mid pick after Bewley Hind and Gibbons. I dont see atkins or Sparrow going up to 330k so no reason you need to rate walsh that high to pick him.
Quote from: Holz on February 27, 2019, 09:27:55 AM
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Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?
he needs to avg 85 to reach $400K
I know I’m biased but I don’t think that’s unrealistic. Kid is already one of our best players ;D
he doesnt need to drop 85 and get up to 400k to be a decent pick. Most rookies you are looking at the realm of 100-125k price rise. Some of these 123k rookies go up above 250k+ but not all of them.
If he can put up a 70 and then rise 100k+ then thats a decent pick up. At 209k he has to do something crazy and go 80+ to be a great pick but realistically he just needs to be a solid pick because you need to compare him to what say the 5th or 6th best mid rookie will do
So its walsh v atkins/sparrow etc...
he has great JS and if guys like atkins sparrow cant string together 6-7 games at a 55+ average then walsh doesnt need to do anything special to beat that.
I currently dont have him as i have stacked my mids with 6 premos and then im happy with 4 out of the 5 mid rookies. If i cant find a solid 5th sparrow or atkins then walsh and cousins have to come into the equation.
Just need to be realisitic on what you can expect from the 4th or 5th best mid pick after Bewley Hind and Gibbons. I dont see atkins or Sparrow going up to 330k so no reason you need to rate walsh that high to pick him.
85 is a lot. I was hoping 70-75 (which is what I think he can score) would be enough. Ah well. He stays for now.
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Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable
most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.
Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.
Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
Could be one to keep an eye on
'He’s been a standout.. We’ve had him on the wing so far & he’s been playing well' - Matthew Nicks on Jackson Hately via @SportsdaySA
Hasn't left my side
+1
Probably been my biggest rookie lock since SC opened
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out. ::)
Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out. ::)
JOM and Crouch both did it in the same year. Dont know if they were the last though.
EDIT: Mills did 78, Witherden did 87. Other than that i dont think theres anymore who even got close to 80. But in saying that Walsh has been widely tipped as the bes player to walk through the draft and would go #1 in any of the previous last few years
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out. ::)
JOM and Crouch both did it in the same year. Dont know if they were the last though.
EDIT: Mills did 78, Witherden did 87. Other than that i dont think theres anymore who even got close to 80. But in saying that Walsh has been widely tipped as the bes player to walk through the draft and would go #1 in any of the previous last few years
JOM and Crouch both had 1 year in the system. JOM played for an expansion club.
80+ would be a huge ask i dont think i can remember the last time a 18 year old kid went 80+ in his first year in the system, not coming from an expansion club.
i can only think of players who went 80+ that fit into one of the above categories.
Quote from: Holz on February 27, 2019, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out. ::)
JOM and Crouch both did it in the same year. Dont know if they were the last though.
EDIT: Mills did 78, Witherden did 87. Other than that i dont think theres anymore who even got close to 80. But in saying that Walsh has been widely tipped as the bes player to walk through the draft and would go #1 in any of the previous last few years
JOM and Crouch both had 1 year in the system. JOM played for an expansion club.
80+ would be a huge ask i dont think i can remember the last time a 18 year old kid went 80+ in his first year in the system, not coming from an expansion club.
i can only think of players who went 80+ that fit into one of the above categories.
Witherden ;) But even he played limited games
Tbf the Bloos are basically what Suns were initially atm
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely
I'm not picking him even if he gets named
"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely
I'm not picking him even if he gets named
"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
Its the perfect rookie trap for the beginners. They'll see the green dot for 123k and slot him in.
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely
I'm not picking him even if he gets named
"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
Its the perfect rookie trap for the beginners. They'll see the green dot for 123k and slot him in.
I think i saw him in kb's team
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:24:49 PM
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Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out. ::)
JOM and Crouch both did it in the same year. Dont know if they were the last though.
EDIT: Mills did 78, Witherden did 87. Other than that i dont think theres anymore who even got close to 80. But in saying that Walsh has been widely tipped as the bes player to walk through the draft and would go #1 in any of the previous last few years
JOM and Crouch both had 1 year in the system. JOM played for an expansion club.
80+ would be a huge ask i dont think i can remember the last time a 18 year old kid went 80+ in his first year in the system, not coming from an expansion club.
i can only think of players who went 80+ that fit into one of the above categories.
Witherden ;) But even he played limited games
Daniel Rich went 85 in his first season and played all games.
Quote from: Ringo on February 27, 2019, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:24:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 27, 2019, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out. ::)
JOM and Crouch both did it in the same year. Dont know if they were the last though.
EDIT: Mills did 78, Witherden did 87. Other than that i dont think theres anymore who even got close to 80. But in saying that Walsh has been widely tipped as the bes player to walk through the draft and would go #1 in any of the previous last few years
JOM and Crouch both had 1 year in the system. JOM played for an expansion club.
80+ would be a huge ask i dont think i can remember the last time a 18 year old kid went 80+ in his first year in the system, not coming from an expansion club.
i can only think of players who went 80+ that fit into one of the above categories.
Witherden ;) But even he played limited games
Daniel Rich went 85 in his first season and played all games.
We were talking this millennium chief... Who did it last ;)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely
I'm not picking him even if he gets named
"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
Damn, what's it gonna take to convince ya. ;D
You don't need to look for guys that averaged 85 for the year. Just for the first 6-8 weeks - you aren't going to hold them all year. Rookie averages invariably drop in the second half as they tire.
Having said that I can't think of any fitting that bill off the top of my head. I thought I remembered Wines being a must have at around 175k but it seems his first year numbers dropped off after about round 4
Quote from: GoLions on February 27, 2019, 06:01:41 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely
I'm not picking him even if he gets named
"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
Its the perfect rookie trap for the beginners. They'll see the green dot for 123k and slot him in.
I think i saw him in kb's team
::)
Quote from: Pokerface on February 27, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
You don't need to look for guys that averaged 85 for the year. Just for the first 6-8 weeks - you aren't going to hold them all year. Rookie averages invariably drop in the second half as they tire.
Having said that I can't think of any fitting that bill off the top of my head. I thought I remembered Wines being a must have at around 175k but it seems his first year numbers dropped off after about round 4
This is probably on the mark as young draftees tend to drop off in later rds. You are right with Wines averaged 86 for first 7 Rounds and went up $200k so pick the right one to start and pick when to cull.
Quote from: Ringo on February 27, 2019, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: Pokerface on February 27, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
You don't need to look for guys that averaged 85 for the year. Just for the first 6-8 weeks - you aren't going to hold them all year. Rookie averages invariably drop in the second half as they tire.
Having said that I can't think of any fitting that bill off the top of my head. I thought I remembered Wines being a must have at around 175k but it seems his first year numbers dropped off after about round 4
This is probably on the mark as young draftees tend to drop off in later rds. You are right with Wines averaged 86 for first 7 Rounds and went up $200k so pick the right one to start and pick when to cull.
From memory Wines & Wingard both went ballistic young. Maybe not first year but possibly 2nd year was their best footy as far as fantasy goes. I know I could look it up but anyway.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely
I'm not picking him even if he gets named
"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
NM's key defender problem runs a lot deeper than Tarrant and SDT; Daw is still an unknown as far as recovery time goes and Durdin just cut his little finger off.
McKay is a last ditch option for mine at the moment, actually expect him to play a fair bit early on but at a very slow burn.
In 2015 Cripps was priced as an expensive rookie in his 2nd season and averaged 96. Vandenberg and Oxley averaged 75 the same year as rookie priced guys,
Pure rookies that were taken early in the draft is probably a little different. Most of them tend to peak at 70 odd
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely
I'm not picking him even if he gets named
"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
NM's key defender problem runs a lot deeper than Tarrant and SDT; Daw is still an unknown as far as recovery time goes and Durdin just cut his little finger off.
McKay is a last ditch option for mine at the moment, actually expect him to play a fair bit early on but at a very slow burn.
Wouldn't Ed Vickers-Willis be ahead of McKay?
Quote from: SilverLion on February 28, 2019, 12:03:58 AM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 27, 2019, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely
I'm not picking him even if he gets named
"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
NM's key defender problem runs a lot deeper than Tarrant and SDT; Daw is still an unknown as far as recovery time goes and Durdin just cut his little finger off.
McKay is a last ditch option for mine at the moment, actually expect him to play a fair bit early on but at a very slow burn.
Wouldn't Ed Vickers-Willis be ahead of McKay?
I doubt they'd be competing for the same spot. Daw swung between forward and back last year and McKay gives them the same flexibility.
Quote from: Southstorm on February 28, 2019, 11:30:10 AM
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Quote from: Southstorm on February 27, 2019, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely
I'm not picking him even if he gets named
"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
NM's key defender problem runs a lot deeper than Tarrant and SDT; Daw is still an unknown as far as recovery time goes and Durdin just cut his little finger off.
McKay is a last ditch option for mine at the moment, actually expect him to play a fair bit early on but at a very slow burn.
Wouldn't Ed Vickers-Willis be ahead of McKay?
I doubt they'd be competing for the same spot. Daw swung between forward and back last year and McKay gives them the same flexibility.
Ed Vickers willis is reasonably tall (190cm) and can play the 3rd tall role that daw was having. Thompson and Tarrant still likely to play the FB and CHb roles.
I expect Mckay to be named round then dropped.
Quote from: SilverLion on February 28, 2019, 12:03:58 AM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 27, 2019, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely
I'm not picking him even if he gets named
"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
NM's key defender problem runs a lot deeper than Tarrant and SDT; Daw is still an unknown as far as recovery time goes and Durdin just cut his little finger off.
McKay is a last ditch option for mine at the moment, actually expect him to play a fair bit early on but at a very slow burn.
Wouldn't Ed Vickers-Willis be ahead of McKay?
Yep, but coming back from a PCL injury. And would be surprised to see him in the JLT, as i don't think he's training with the main group or if he has, it would only be in the few weeks.
Walsh has to he the biggest lock of all locks. Holy crap he looks good
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2019, 07:50:39 PM
Walsh has to he the biggest lock of all locks. Holy crap he looks good
He was my first picked player this season. If a rookie was to go 100+ he would be it.
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2019, 07:50:39 PM
Walsh has to he the biggest lock of all locks. Holy crap he looks good
I've always avoided the expensive rookies, but this guy is going to break the trend of most expensive rookies not being good SC picks
24 touches to 3/4 time in your first hitout is damn impressive
I could easily see myself comfortably starting him at M5 if I need to go deeper on other lines, or M6 at worst
Setterfield has already tonned up early in the 4th too
Walsh was classy, vision, space good decisions, hard not to want to start him.
half way thru first preseason game and i already want to shoot langford! got to be better options than this muppet. exact opposite of walsh was dear in the headlights everytime he got the ball. fffs
daniher looked fine to go.
Quote from: crowls on February 28, 2019, 09:34:36 PM
Walsh was classy, vision, space good decisions, hard not to want to start him.
half way thru first preseason game and i already want to shoot langford! got to be better options than this muppet. exact opposite of walsh was dear in the headlights everytime he got the ball. fffs
daniher looked fine to go.
Am i missing something cause idk why anyone would be starting Langford
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Quote from: crowls on February 28, 2019, 09:34:36 PM
Walsh was classy, vision, space good decisions, hard not to want to start him.
half way thru first preseason game and i already want to shoot langford! got to be better options than this muppet. exact opposite of walsh was dear in the headlights everytime he got the ball. fffs
daniher looked fine to go.
Am i missing something cause idk why anyone would be starting Langford
Think Crowls was talking about Walsh in terms of Supercoach... and Langford in terms of being a Bombers fan.
Bewley only named as an emergency despite there being an extended bench and a fair few best 22 players missing. Has to be a worry for his round 1 chances
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Quote from: GoLions on February 28, 2019, 10:25:19 PM
Quote from: crowls on February 28, 2019, 09:34:36 PM
Walsh was classy, vision, space good decisions, hard not to want to start him.
half way thru first preseason game and i already want to shoot langford! got to be better options than this muppet. exact opposite of walsh was dear in the headlights everytime he got the ball. fffs
daniher looked fine to go.
Am i missing something cause idk why anyone would be starting Langford
Think Crowls was talking about Walsh in terms of Supercoach... and Langford in terms of being a Bombers fan.
yeah, was venting as a bombers fan. hope i dont have to put up with it for long before he is banished to vfl.
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2019, 02:40:32 AM
Bewley only named as an emergency despite there being an extended bench and a fair few best 22 players missing. Has to be a worry for his round 1 chances
He's just one of the best 22 missing ;)
Mature ager, doesn't need to play first up - second JLT is always a good indication for Round 1 line ups and I'm certain he'll play that
Want to see how Walsh goes against a team that takes direct opponents in the midfield before I put him in. Was very good last night but he didn't need to work hard to find the ball.
Quote from: crowls on March 01, 2019, 07:30:32 AM
Quote from: Sonnydark on February 28, 2019, 11:04:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 28, 2019, 10:25:19 PM
Quote from: crowls on February 28, 2019, 09:34:36 PM
Walsh was classy, vision, space good decisions, hard not to want to start him.
half way thru first preseason game and i already want to shoot langford! got to be better options than this muppet. exact opposite of walsh was dear in the headlights everytime he got the ball. fffs
daniher looked fine to go.
Am i missing something cause idk why anyone would be starting Langford
It’s only JLT crowls so I reckon he’ll come good come round 1...Devon mentioned this week that he has stepped it up (know it didn’t show that last night) but he’ll be one of the big improvers come season proper imo as a Bombers fan too.
Think Crowls was talking about Walsh in terms of Supercoach... and Langford in terms of being a Bombers fan.
yeah, was venting as a bombers fan. hope i dont have to put up with it for long before he is banished to vfl.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2019, 08:28:53 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2019, 02:40:32 AM
Bewley only named as an emergency despite there being an extended bench and a fair few best 22 players missing. Has to be a worry for his round 1 chances
He's just one of the best 22 missing ;)
Mature ager, doesn't need to play first up - second JLT is always a good indication for Round 1 line ups and I'm certain he'll play that
Was quiet in their intraclub too, I'm not so sure on him
Quote from: elephants on March 01, 2019, 10:20:36 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2019, 08:28:53 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2019, 02:40:32 AM
Bewley only named as an emergency despite there being an extended bench and a fair few best 22 players missing. Has to be a worry for his round 1 chances
He's just one of the best 22 missing ;)
Mature ager, doesn't need to play first up - second JLT is always a good indication for Round 1 line ups and I'm certain he'll play that
Was quiet in their intraclub too, I'm not so sure on him
I guess what makes me feel comfortable is that worst case scenario he's a place-holder, because I am 99% sure at least 1 new rookie will debut for Freo, and that's all that really matters for now I guess
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Quote from: elephants on March 01, 2019, 10:20:36 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2019, 08:28:53 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2019, 02:40:32 AM
Bewley only named as an emergency despite there being an extended bench and a fair few best 22 players missing. Has to be a worry for his round 1 chances
He's just one of the best 22 missing ;)
Mature ager, doesn't need to play first up - second JLT is always a good indication for Round 1 line ups and I'm certain he'll play that
Was quiet in their intraclub too, I'm not so sure on him
I guess what makes me feel comfortable is that worst case scenario he's a place-holder, because I am 99% sure at least 1 new rookie will debut for Freo, and that's all that really matters for now I guess
If he doesnt play maybe another name pops up elsewhere
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2019, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: elephants on March 01, 2019, 10:20:36 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2019, 08:28:53 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2019, 02:40:32 AM
Bewley only named as an emergency despite there being an extended bench and a fair few best 22 players missing. Has to be a worry for his round 1 chances
He's just one of the best 22 missing ;)
Mature ager, doesn't need to play first up - second JLT is always a good indication for Round 1 line ups and I'm certain he'll play that
Was quiet in their intraclub too, I'm not so sure on him
I guess what makes me feel comfortable is that worst case scenario he's a place-holder, because I am 99% sure at least 1 new rookie will debut for Freo, and that's all that really matters for now I guess
Nah Ross doesn't play kids
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Bewley only named as an emergency despite there being an extended bench and a fair few best 22 players missing. Has to be a worry for his round 1 chances
He's just one of the best 22 missing ;)
Mature ager, doesn't need to play first up - second JLT is always a good indication for Round 1 line ups and I'm certain he'll play that
Was quiet in their intraclub too, I'm not so sure on him
I guess what makes me feel comfortable is that worst case scenario he's a place-holder, because I am 99% sure at least 1 new rookie will debut for Freo, and that's all that really matters for now I guess
But not 1 new rookie per week, cos that would be balls and a typical Ross thing to do.
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Bewley only named as an emergency despite there being an extended bench and a fair few best 22 players missing. Has to be a worry for his round 1 chances
He's just one of the best 22 missing ;)
Mature ager, doesn't need to play first up - second JLT is always a good indication for Round 1 line ups and I'm certain he'll play that
Was quiet in their intraclub too, I'm not so sure on him
I guess what makes me feel comfortable is that worst case scenario he's a place-holder, because I am 99% sure at least 1 new rookie will debut for Freo, and that's all that really matters for now I guess
Nah Ross doesn't play kids
Exactly. Surely Nick Suban is ahead of Bewley?
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Bewley only named as an emergency despite there being an extended bench and a fair few best 22 players missing. Has to be a worry for his round 1 chances
He's just one of the best 22 missing ;)
Mature ager, doesn't need to play first up - second JLT is always a good indication for Round 1 line ups and I'm certain he'll play that
Was quiet in their intraclub too, I'm not so sure on him
I guess what makes me feel comfortable is that worst case scenario he's a place-holder, because I am 99% sure at least 1 new rookie will debut for Freo, and that's all that really matters for now I guess
Nah Ross doesn't play kids
Exactly. Surely Nick Suban is ahead of Bewley?
I think you mean Nick Suburban.
This Clark bloke is looking real good... Henry-esk of last year. Will be a tough backline to get into tho
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This Clark bloke is looking real good... Henry-esk of last year. Will be a tough backline to get into tho
Was very impressive, but agree it's a tough lineup to break into. He'll get a run for sure this year. If not Round 1, hopefully a bit later so he's a nice downgrade target
Constable with 26 touches from just 71% TOG
Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako
Constable 92, Clark 87, Allan 86, Watson 76 and Atkins 69 were the pick of the #SuperCoach #cashcows.
Clark a good chance to play round 1 IMO.
But there's this guy named Tuohy that'll come back in and then it's goodbye for Clarkey.
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Clark a good chance to play round 1 IMO.
But there's this guy named Tuohy that'll come back in and then it's goodbye for Clarkey.
Or Clark will remain in the side even when Tuohy returns.
He plays well he stays, pretty simple.
Clark is in R1 unless he completely botches his next game somehow. Only two games but he is the next most impressive kid after Walsh.
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Clark a good chance to play round 1 IMO.
But there's this guy named Tuohy that'll come back in and then it's goodbye for Clarkey.
Or Clark will remain in the side even when Tuohy returns.
He plays well he stays, pretty simple.
Clarke would probably remain in the side. Henry could swing forward as that’s where he been training all pre season apprently
Caldwell off a limited preseason already ahead of Hately. Firming for round 1.
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Caldwell off a limited preseason already ahead of Hately. Firming for round 1.
Caldwell was touted as a potential number 1 pick prior to injuries ruining his last two years of footy and forcing him down the order. Still got snapped up at pick 11, which means GWS see the upside and talent in taking someone with such a history as his. Professional environment and full time medical staff and programming could see him fullfill his potential.
Davies-Uniacke probably moves ahead of Walsh & Bennell for me, 27 touches a nice continuation of his late season form in the VFL.
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Davies-Uniacke probably moves ahead of Walsh & Bennell for me, 27 touches a nice continuation of his late season form in the VFL.
73 SC isn't great, although it looks like he will be playing a lot more this year based on Scott's post match comment
Scott: Luke Davies-Uniacke played how he’s trained all pre-season, well. A lot of people think that the new recruits will be the catalyst for change, but it’s the likes of Davies-Uniacke and Simpkin that will help us improve.
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Davies-Uniacke probably moves ahead of Walsh & Bennell for me, 27 touches a nice continuation of his late season form in the VFL.
73 SC isn't great, although it looks like he will be playing a lot more this year based on Scott's post match comment
Scott: Luke Davies-Uniacke played how he’s trained all pre-season, well. A lot of people think that the new recruits will be the catalyst for change, but it’s the likes of Davies-Uniacke and Simpkin that will help us improve.
JS very good & I suspect he'll get better with his disposal, he's also cheaper than Walsh. It may well be that I select no-one who's over 123k but if forced to do so then LDU looms as a good POD.
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Davies-Uniacke probably moves ahead of Walsh & Bennell for me, 27 touches a nice continuation of his late season form in the VFL.
73 SC isn't great, although it looks like he will be playing a lot more this year based on Scott's post match comment
Scott: Luke Davies-Uniacke played how he’s trained all pre-season, well. A lot of people think that the new recruits will be the catalyst for change, but it’s the likes of Davies-Uniacke and Simpkin that will help us improve.
JS very good & I suspect he'll get better with his disposal, he's also cheaper than Walsh. It may well be that I select no-one who's over 123k but if forced to do so then LDU looms as a good POD.
We often start with 5 prem mids, but with Miles/Libba etc still options it seems plenty of people are considering 4 prem mids + one of them
Well, we could even go 4 prem mids, then 2 of expensive rookies at M5/6 because their JS should be excellent, and it gives us cash to bolster other lines and get those really poor scoring rookies off the field in def and fwd
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Davies-Uniacke probably moves ahead of Walsh & Bennell for me, 27 touches a nice continuation of his late season form in the VFL.
73 SC isn't great, although it looks like he will be playing a lot more this year based on Scott's post match comment
Scott: Luke Davies-Uniacke played how he’s trained all pre-season, well. A lot of people think that the new recruits will be the catalyst for change, but it’s the likes of Davies-Uniacke and Simpkin that will help us improve.
JS very good & I suspect he'll get better with his disposal, he's also cheaper than Walsh. It may well be that I select no-one who's over 123k but if forced to do so then LDU looms as a good POD.
We often start with 5 prem mids, but with Miles/Libba etc still options it seems plenty of people are considering 4 prem mids + one of them
Well, we could even go 4 prem mids, then 2 of expensive rookies at M5/6 because their JS should be excellent, and it gives us cash to bolster other lines and get those really poor scoring rookies off the field in def and fwd
That's certainly an option, I've currently got Bennell at M6 & Miles at M5, so replacing Harley with LDU maintains my structure. I also note that Miles is on the bench so maybe not the bedrock selection that we are expecting. He'll obviously need to perform strongly. I also note that Brad Crouch played well so there's that to consider.
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Davies-Uniacke probably moves ahead of Walsh & Bennell for me, 27 touches a nice continuation of his late season form in the VFL.
73 SC isn't great, although it looks like he will be playing a lot more this year based on Scott's post match comment
Scott: Luke Davies-Uniacke played how he’s trained all pre-season, well. A lot of people think that the new recruits will be the catalyst for change, but it’s the likes of Davies-Uniacke and Simpkin that will help us improve.
JS very good & I suspect he'll get better with his disposal, he's also cheaper than Walsh. It may well be that I select no-one who's over 123k but if forced to do so then LDU looms as a good POD.
We often start with 5 prem mids, but with Miles/Libba etc still options it seems plenty of people are considering 4 prem mids + one of them
Well, we could even go 4 prem mids, then 2 of expensive rookies at M5/6 because their JS should be excellent, and it gives us cash to bolster other lines and get those really poor scoring rookies off the field in def and fwd
That's certainly an option, I've currently got Bennell at M6 & Miles at M5, so replacing Harley with LDU maintains my structure. I also note that Miles is on the bench so maybe not the bedrock selection that we are expecting. He'll obviously need to perform strongly. I also note that Brad Crouch played well so there's that to consider.
Put a line through Bennell - he pinged his calf yet again recently
Certainly a lot to play out over the next fortnight
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LDU vs Walsh. Don't think I'll take both.
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LDU vs Walsh. Don't think I'll take both.
meh wait for the rest of the games b4 u start stressing
25 touches and 91SC from Zac Butters from 70% TOG was very impressive. Willem Drew also managed a team-high 11CPs and 7 clearances while operating at 93% DE for his 77 SC. Both look like pretty decent options if named Round 1.
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25 touches and 91SC from Zac Butters from 70% TOG was very impressive. Willem Drew also managed a team-high 11CPs and 7 clearances while operating at 93% DE for his 77 SC. Both look like pretty decent options if named Round 1.
I can’t see how butters doesn’t play round 1 ... he’s a gun
...and a lazy 101 from Hately against the Swans. Sheesh.
yeah i posted a pic in discord but i'm considering Miles/Walsh at M4/M5 then butters, hately, caldwell etc
then roberton at d5 etc
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...and a lazy 101 from Hately against the Swans. Sheesh.
Watched that game. Would be surprised if he didn't play round 1. Cool and composed with the ball in hand which for a 1st year player in the mids is rare.
Caldwell was solid as well. Did some good things but is a bit more pricey as a mid rookie option (I think around 160k)
Is there a thread with Supercoach scores from JLT? Some kind person did it for everyone last year. Just wondering if I’m missing it.
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Is there a thread with Supercoach scores from JLT? Some kind person did it for everyone last year. Just wondering if I’m missing it.
They're all being added to this post, http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,112774.msg1968123.html#msg1968123
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Is there a thread with Supercoach scores from JLT? Some kind person did it for everyone last year. Just wondering if I’m missing it.
it's in the matchcenter things on the front page the SC scores get updated a couple hours after
One thing to remember, this draft pool is the best we've had since the GWS GC days, so the expensive rookies might be worth starting
Guys that went Pick 10-20 in this draft will be better than guys who have gone Top 10 in previous drafts
So many gun kids in this draft - I've got high hopes for cash cows this year
Thanks fanTCfool and kilbluff.
Since most of the games have been played, these are the guys I am considering for spots
Back
Ridley
Collins
Clark
Duursma
Burgess
Hore
Logue - Hasn't played yet
Watson - Looks to have scored well but won't get a game come the real stuff
Jones - May not get a game come the real stuff
Scrimshaw - See Jones
Mid
Walsh (lockety lock)
Cousins
LDU
Butters
Hately
Constable
Gibbons
Caldwell
Atkins
Ruck
Archie Smith - Probably won't hold down the spot more than a fortnight
Pierce - Already banged up
Clarke - Seems the best option
Fort - Probably a R3 loophole at best
Forward
Setterfield - (Lockety lock)
Drew
Parker
Rozee - pricey and may not score
Petruccelle - unsure on job security
Balta - Unsure on job security
Burgess is also an option here
Right now I'd be tempted to go light in the midfield and load up in the forward line. Down back it looks like there is options galore to go with a plethora of mid price options. I think you need to bat 4 premiums deep this year up forward.
Disagree regarding the forward spot. I've thought long and hard and apart from. Danger, Smith and Heeney, I couldn't tell you who will be the other top forwards. So I'm going 3 heavy in the forward and letting things settle before I flesh the last 3 spots out. I trust the back mid pricers way more than any forward mid pricers.
Menegola, Mundy and Boak also feel pretty safe to be up there.
I think going 4 mid prems with a forward line of Danger, Smith, Heeney, Menegola, Setters and Drew, along with a backline of Laird, Williams, Smith, Roberton, Ridley and Collins is probably safer than having to start two of the trash forward rookies on field and starting Lloyd down back and a Libba in the mids. The defensive mid price options are streets better than the forwards as well.
One thing i do like about a good variery of mid rookies. Means i can have setterfield in my fwds
With all the options in defence, I don't think Ridley @ 233k is an option personally.
Eyes on Griffin Logue tonight as well, he could definitely be one with good job security.
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Since most of the games have been played, these are the guys I am considering for spots
Back
Ridley
Collins
Clark
Duursma
Burgess
Hore
Logue - Hasn't played yet
Watson - Looks to have scored well but won't get a game come the real stuff
Jones - May not get a game come the real stuff
Scrimshaw - See Jones
Right now I'd be tempted to go light in the midfield and load up in the forward line. Down back it looks like there is options galore to go with a plethora of mid price options. I think you need to bat 4 premiums deep this year up forward.
Add McKay to the list too of back rookies.
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Menegola, Mundy and Boak also feel pretty safe to be up there.
I think going 4 mid prems with a forward line of Danger, Smith, Heeney, Menegola, Setters and Drew, along with a backline of Laird, Williams, Smith, Roberton, Ridley and Collins is probably safer than having to start two of the trash forward rookies on field and starting Lloyd down back and a Libba in the mids. The defensive mid price options are streets better than the forwards as well.
these guys are all 100k plus over our back 2nd tier options. I like all of them but just cannot afford to start more than 2 over 500k fwd and def prems.
Gee 10 minutes in and quaynor looks a likely type... prob won’t get a kick from now.
(Rushed his first kick)
Menegola, Mundy and Boak are just as likely to be failed picks IMO, Menegola probably the least likely to fail.
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Menegola, Mundy and Boak are just as likely to be failed picks IMO, Menegola probably the least likely to fail.
Based on? Clearly not role haha
As expected, Logue and Quaynor were rubbish for SC tonight
Bewley scored 43SC but only had 39% TOG so that's promising
Darcy Moore with 79SC from 69% TOG looking nice too
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Add McKay to the list too of back rookies.
Meh, won't be a great scorer and won't have great job security. Probably throw him in with Scrimshaw.
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these guys are all 100k plus over our back 2nd tier options. I like all of them but just cannot afford to start more than 2 over 500k fwd and def prems.
Isn't that my point though? Instead of grabbing one of the meh forward mid price options and grabbing a Libba in the mids you're better off grabbing two of the decent back mid price options instead of the 500k guys and rookie mid to turn that into two premium forwards.
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Menegola, Mundy and Boak are just as likely to be failed picks IMO, Menegola probably the least likely to fail.
Menegola looks to be safe as houses. If his role doesn't change and he play like he has the last three seasons you can bank on 100. The other two are probably a 90 at worst and a 105 if all goes right. At a 95 average for both (which I think is probably realistic) you're looking at top 10 based on last year.
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As expected, Logue and Quaynor were rubbish for SC tonight
Bewley scored 43SC but only had 39% TOG so that's promising
Darcy Moore with 79SC from 69% TOG looking nice too
Surprised Moore scored so high looking at he raw stats. 63 DT with 4 clangers for 79 SC seems like he benefited from scaling in a match where points were up for grabs. I'd rather Ridley right now
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Menegola, Mundy and Boak are just as likely to be failed picks IMO, Menegola probably the least likely to fail.
Based on? Clearly not role haha
My point is they still might not be cream of the crop.
Forwards who could be top 6: Danger, Heeney, Smith, Greene, Gray, Boak, Menegola, Kelly, Westhoff, Mundy, Franklin, Dunkley, Wingard.
I'd rather sit and wait after Danger, Heeney, and Smith.
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Add McKay to the list too of back rookies.
Meh, won't be a great scorer and won't have great job security. Probably throw him in with Scrimshaw.
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these guys are all 100k plus over our back 2nd tier options. I like all of them but just cannot afford to start more than 2 over 500k fwd and def prems.
Isn't that my point though? Instead of grabbing one of the meh forward mid price options and grabbing a Libba in the mids you're better off grabbing two of the decent back mid price options instead of the 500k guys and rookie mid to turn that into two premium forwards.
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Menegola, Mundy and Boak are just as likely to be failed picks IMO, Menegola probably the least likely to fail.
Menegola looks to be safe as houses. If his role doesn't change and he play like he has the last three seasons you can bank on 100. The other two are probably a 90 at worst and a 105 if all goes right. At a 95 average for both (which I think is probably realistic) you're looking at top 10 based on last year.
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As expected, Logue and Quaynor were rubbish for SC tonight
Bewley scored 43SC but only had 39% TOG so that's promising
Darcy Moore with 79SC from 69% TOG looking nice too
Surprised Moore scored so high looking at he raw stats. 63 DT with 4 clangers for 79 SC seems like he benefited from scaling in a match where points were up for grabs. I'd rather Ridley right now
As much a fan of Ridley as I am I don't see him as a lock for round 1.
Hooker, Hurley, Ambrose, Saad, Francis, McKenna seems to be our likely back 6 when round 1 starts.
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As much a fan of Ridley as I am I don't see him as a lock for round 1.
Hooker, Hurley, Ambrose, Saad, Francis, McKenna seems to be our likely back 6 when round 1 starts.
I started doing some research the other night after I watched him play. Seems like he is highly rated and I like what I saw. If McGrath does go into the midfield that 7th spot in the rotation would be open for him to grab it.
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As much a fan of Ridley as I am I don't see him as a lock for round 1.
Hooker, Hurley, Ambrose, Saad, Francis, McKenna seems to be our likely back 6 when round 1 starts.
I started doing some research the other night after I watched him play. Seems like he is highly rated and I like what I saw. If McGrath does go into the midfield that 7th spot in the rotation would be open for him to grab it.
If we have 3 talls down back plus Francis, Ridley, Belly, Daniher and one of McKernan/Clarke (or both) all in the same side I see us being too top heavy which under the 6-6-6 to me would be a major concern.
Marty Gleeson and Mason Redmond recovering from injury would make more sense as they are more versatile to play that additional defensive/mid rotation role.
Gleeson is a long way off and you think Redman would be the same.
Francis/Ridley can probably both play the sweeper role with McKenna/Saad giving you the run and carry. It's not like Francis/Ridley are KPP's, they're probably both looking at being the BJ replacement which makes me think you're on the money with they only have room for one.
I didn’t really want to fork out over $200k on a rookie but Walsh has come into my team for the first time at Miles’ expense.
If it goes pear shaped I’ll end up with the other 60% of owners who have him. On balance it’s a no brainer, don’t know why it took me so long,
because he is a 200k rookie and will ripen like a green tomato. youhave him at d6?
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because he is a 200k rookie and will ripen like a green tomato. youhave him at d6?
Walsh is my M6. Slow burn possibly but should score decently on the field.
D6 is up in the air atm, but safe to say it won’t be the same green tomato.
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because he is a 200k rookie and will ripen like a green tomato. youhave him at d6?
I wish, unfortunately he's mid only though :(
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because he is a 200k rookie and will ripen like a green tomato. youhave him at d6?
Walsh is my M6. Slow burn possibly but should score decently on the field.
D6 is up in the air atm, but safe to say it won’t be the same green tomato.
Now that I have rubbed the grit out of my eyes and woken up, I did mean m6. sorry guys.
I remember someone on here posted about the best R3 loophole options, does anyone know where that went?
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I remember someone on here posted about the best R3 loophole options, does anyone know where that went?
J. Sweet 102k WBD locked into my R3
I'm keen to hear any Eagles supporters thoughts on Hamish Brayshaw for this year, if he stays fit surely he comes into the eagles mid rotation at some stage
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I remember someone on here posted about the best R3 loophole options, does anyone know where that went?
J. Sweet 102k WBD locked into my R3
They got the most Sundi's?
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I'm keen to hear any Eagles supporters thoughts on Hamish Brayshaw for this year, if he stays fit surely he comes into the eagles mid rotation at some stage
I'd think it would be pretty unlikely that he gets a run this year, and if he does I imagine it would be short lived
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I remember someone on here posted about the best R3 loophole options, does anyone know where that went?
SC Strategy section
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As much a fan of Ridley as I am I don't see him as a lock for round 1.
Hooker, Hurley, Ambrose, Saad, Francis, McKenna seems to be our likely back 6 when round 1 starts.
I started doing some research the other night after I watched him play. Seems like he is highly rated and I like what I saw. If McGrath does go into the midfield that 7th spot in the rotation would be open for him to grab it.
If we have 3 talls down back plus Francis, Ridley, Belly, Daniher and one of McKernan/Clarke (or both) all in the same side I see us being too top heavy which under the 6-6-6 to me would be a major concern.
Marty Gleeson and Mason Redmond recovering from injury would make more sense as they are more versatile to play that additional defensive/mid rotation role.
Hooker out opens doors. I doubt Ambrose and Hartley play in the same side anymore; they're too limited as players. Francis to play third tall and Ridley as seventh defender.
Gleeson is miles away and won't walk straight in. Redman will also have to go through the 2s. Ridley very highly rated at Essendon, think he's a good chance to put a full season together and be a nice little cash cow before the byes.
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I'm keen to hear any Eagles supporters thoughts on Hamish Brayshaw for this year, if he stays fit surely he comes into the eagles mid rotation at some stage
Have heard he has been told that he is only eligible for selection when Gaff is not playing
Quote from: hawkboy80 on March 05, 2019, 04:24:38 PM
I'm keen to hear any Eagles supporters thoughts on Hamish Brayshaw for this year, if he stays fit surely he comes into the eagles mid rotation at some stage
Wouldn’t be in our top 30 rotation imo.
regarding Ridley
Dea out for 6 weeks
Gleeson TBC ankle injury
Redman TBC ankle injury
Ridley doesnt have much competition for spots rn
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regarding Ridley
Dea out for 6 weeks
Gleeson TBC ankle injury
Redman TBC ankle injury
Ridley doesnt have much competition for spots rn
Ridley at 230k or B.Smith at 330k, reckon the answer is pretty definitive.
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regarding Ridley
Dea out for 6 weeks
Gleeson TBC ankle injury
Redman TBC ankle injury
Ridley doesnt have much competition for spots rn
Ridley at 230k or B.Smith at 330k, reckon the answer is pretty definitive.
The answer is neither..?
Just like last season, the majority of rookies were all mature aged and this theme looks set to continue this season.
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regarding Ridley
Dea out for 6 weeks
Gleeson TBC ankle injury
Redman TBC ankle injury
Ridley doesnt have much competition for spots rn
Ridley at 230k or B.Smith at 330k, reckon the answer is pretty definitive.
The answer is neither..?
Horses for courses, I'd take Smith out of those two.
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I'm keen to hear any Eagles supporters thoughts on Hamish Brayshaw for this year, if he stays fit surely he comes into the eagles mid rotation at some stage
Wouldn’t be in our top 30 rotation imo.
So not up to his younger brothers level ?
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I'm keen to hear any Eagles supporters thoughts on Hamish Brayshaw for this year, if he stays fit surely he comes into the eagles mid rotation at some stage
Wouldn’t be in our top 30 rotation imo.
So not up to his younger brothers level ?
well he isnt, there is a clear talent gap given the draft positions.
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I'm keen to hear any Eagles supporters thoughts on Hamish Brayshaw for this year, if he stays fit surely he comes into the eagles mid rotation at some stage
Wouldn’t be in our top 30 rotation imo.
So not up to his younger brothers level ?
Pick 2 vs Pick 68, pretty clear there is a difference haha
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Quote from: hawkboy80 on March 05, 2019, 04:24:38 PM
I'm keen to hear any Eagles supporters thoughts on Hamish Brayshaw for this year, if he stays fit surely he comes into the eagles mid rotation at some stage
Wouldn’t be in our top 30 rotation imo.
So not up to his younger brothers level ?
Pick 2 vs Pick 68, pretty clear there is a difference haha
By that logic, he’s no Tambling :p
Just watched the Geelong v West Coast game and Clark is now locked in my side. Was very impressive.
Quote from: Gigantor on March 06, 2019, 02:35:45 PM
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Quote from: eaglesman on March 06, 2019, 12:28:26 AM
Quote from: hawkboy80 on March 05, 2019, 04:24:38 PM
I'm keen to hear any Eagles supporters thoughts on Hamish Brayshaw for this year, if he stays fit surely he comes into the eagles mid rotation at some stage
Wouldn’t be in our top 30 rotation imo.
So not up to his younger brothers level ?
Pick 2 vs Pick 68, pretty clear there is a difference haha
Hamish could be the Aussie "tom brady". Bit early to write the kid off as not as good as-
Quote from: Money Shot on March 06, 2019, 04:46:30 PM
Just watched the Geelong v West Coast game and Clark is now locked in my side. Was very impressive.
Tad late to the party there mate ;) Didnt jump 10% in teams for nothing.
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Quote from: Money Shot on March 06, 2019, 04:46:30 PM
Just watched the Geelong v West Coast game and Clark is now locked in my side. Was very impressive.
Tad late to the party there mate ;) Didnt jump 10% in teams for nothing.
Fair point ;D
Constable, Clark, Miers, Atkins and Fort all named for JLT 2
Ridley named for Dons too
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2019, 06:47:58 PM
Constable, Clark, Miers, Atkins and Fort all named for JLT 2
Ridley named for Dons too
My boy Gryan! Gonna average at least a hundo this year
Zac Clarke is not named
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Zac Clarke is not named
That's a worry. McKernan not named either so they are obviously in favour of 1 ruckman with someone like Daniher pinch hitting
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Zac Clarke is not named
That's a worry. McKernan not named either so they are obviously in favour of 1 ruckman with someone like Daniher pinch hitting
Sam Draper was named, looks like they're giving him a run instead.
I must say, this is a very weird team selection by Essendon for JLT2. Stringer in the C, Daniher the only tall in the on-field forwards, Brown at FB, David flowering Myers at CHF and Ridley on ball. I know you can't read into the lineups too much but this is just taking the piss.
Ollie Hanrahan just survived a 14 man cut to feature for the Hawks. Jones only got Emergency. Its a full strength squad so that could be another forward rookie locked in for Round 1. The kid single handily put Box Hill into the granny last year and the club have big wraps on him. Had 19 touches from 75% TOG. Slightly better scoring potential than your Parkers/Petrrucelle's.
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:54:04 PM
Ollie Hanrahan just survived a 14 man cut to feature for the Hawks. Jones only got Emergency. Its a full strength squad so that could be another Fwd rookie locked in for Round 1. The kid single handily put Box Hill into the granny last year and the clubs have big wraps on him. Had 19 touches from 75% TOG
No rookies are locked at this stage mate, except Walsh probably.
A good option if he does get named round 1 though of course.
Griffin Logue has pinged a string and is in doubt for Round 1
Hope he actually plays Round 1, because the more people that pick him the better :P
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Griffin Logue has pinged a string and is in doubt for Round 1
Hope he actually plays Round 1, because the more people that pick him the better :P
Poor bloke cant get a run. We may struggle to find even 3 decent back rookies at this stage tho :-X
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:54:04 PM
Ollie Hanrahan just survived a 14 man cut to feature for the Hawks. Jones only got Emergency. Its a full strength squad so that could be another forward rookie locked in for Round 1. The kid single handily put Box Hill into the granny last year and the club have big wraps on him. Had 19 touches from 75% TOG. Slightly better scoring potential than your Parkers/Petrrucelle's.
Dylan Moore the one I've been watching, and he's still in
Mitch Lewis held his spot too
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:54:04 PM
Ollie Hanrahan just survived a 14 man cut to feature for the Hawks. Jones only got Emergency. Its a full strength squad so that could be another forward rookie locked in for Round 1. The kid single handily put Box Hill into the granny last year and the club have big wraps on him. Had 19 touches from 75% TOG. Slightly better scoring potential than your Parkers/Petrrucelle's.
Dylan Moore the one I've been watching, and he's still in
Mitch Lewis held his spot too
Mitch Lewis may as well be in the change rooms half the time. Goes missing for so long, has a lot to learn. Moore and Ollie are playing for the same spot but may not be there when Chad comes back. For our sake we'd rather Ollie, more scoring potential. Moore is your more typical goal sneak but i did tip him last year to play early. Personally i wouldn't take him over Setters/Drew/Balta of course. Seems like for like with your Parker types
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:54:04 PM
Ollie Hanrahan just survived a 14 man cut to feature for the Hawks. Jones only got Emergency. Its a full strength squad so that could be another forward rookie locked in for Round 1. The kid single handily put Box Hill into the granny last year and the club have big wraps on him. Had 19 touches from 75% TOG. Slightly better scoring potential than your Parkers/Petrrucelle's.
Dylan Moore the one I've been watching, and he's still in
Mitch Lewis held his spot too
Mitch Lewis may as well be in the change rooms half the time. Goes missing for so long, has a lot to learn. Moore and Ollie are playing for the same spot but may not be there when Chad comes back. For our sake we'd rather Ollie, more scoring potential. Moore is your more typical goal sneak but i did tip him last year to play early. Personally i wouldn't take him over Setters/Drew/Balta of course. Seems like for like with your Parker types
Yeah wouldn't be fielding any Hawk fwd rookie, but the more bench options we have the better
Parker, Cavarra, Petrucelle, Moore are the guys I'm looking to fill the bench - won't be fielding them
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Ollie Hanrahan just survived a 14 man cut to feature for the Hawks. Jones only got Emergency. Its a full strength squad so that could be another forward rookie locked in for Round 1. The kid single handily put Box Hill into the granny last year and the club have big wraps on him. Had 19 touches from 75% TOG. Slightly better scoring potential than your Parkers/Petrrucelle's.
Dylan Moore the one I've been watching, and he's still in
Mitch Lewis held his spot too
Mitch Lewis may as well be in the change rooms half the time. Goes missing for so long, has a lot to learn. Moore and Ollie are playing for the same spot but may not be there when Chad comes back. For our sake we'd rather Ollie, more scoring potential. Moore is your more typical goal sneak but i did tip him last year to play early. Personally i wouldn't take him over Setters/Drew/Balta of course. Seems like for like with your Parker types
Yeah wouldn't be fielding any Hawk fwd rookie, but the more bench options we have the better
Parker, Cavarra, Petrucelle, Moore are the guys I'm looking to fill the bench - won't be fielding them
Parker seems safe as houses to take one of them. Its just the last spot. Whats going on with the Cav? He expected to play this week? I always assumed he'd score a little better than your Petrucelle, Moore, Miers types.
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:54:04 PM
Ollie Hanrahan just survived a 14 man cut to feature for the Hawks. Jones only got Emergency. Its a full strength squad so that could be another forward rookie locked in for Round 1. The kid single handily put Box Hill into the granny last year and the club have big wraps on him. Had 19 touches from 75% TOG. Slightly better scoring potential than your Parkers/Petrrucelle's.
Dylan Moore the one I've been watching, and he's still in
Mitch Lewis held his spot too
Moore will get you about 6 touches and a goal a game, wouldn't go near him
Constable, Atkins and Clarke have all done everything they can to press for a Round 1 spot, and all 3 have done well SC wise too
I think we can safely place all 3 in our sides for now, but making sure we have some back up rookies just in case any of them miss
I'm going with Clarke D6, Constable M8 and Atkins M10. Just need to wait for Round 1 teams now
Ridley with a 97 and a 94 in back to back games. I'm really liking him at D5 with Collins, Clark and Burgess on the bench.
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Ridley with a 97 and a 94 in back to back games. I'm really liking him at D5 with Collins, Clark and Burgess on the bench.
Idk how he has pulled a 94 from those stats sheesh but he is getting tempting. Getting Bonner vibes from him tho...
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Ridley with a 97 and a 94 in back to back games. I'm really liking him at D5 with Collins, Clark and Burgess on the bench.
Idk how he has pulled a 94 from those stats sheesh but he is getting tempting. Getting Bonner vibes from him tho...
Riley flowering Bonner hahhahaha, too true
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Idk how he has pulled a 94 from those stats sheesh but he is getting tempting. Getting Bonner vibes from him tho...
High DE%, 50% of his touches were contested and a goal early in the game. He could turn into a Bonner, but he is essentially an expensive rookie and it gives you flexibility to trade him out if he flops.
Also looked like he was taking the kick ins which was interesting
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 11:52:55 PM
Idk how he has pulled a 94 from those stats sheesh but he is getting tempting. Getting Bonner vibes from him tho...
High DE%, 50% of his touches were contested and a goal early in the game. He could turn into a Bonner, but he is essentially an expensive rookie and it gives you flexibility to trade him out if he flops.
Also looked like he was taking the kick ins which was interesting
Would rather pay 80k extra for Brodie Smith, at least we know he's AA quality.
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Idk how he has pulled a 94 from those stats sheesh but he is getting tempting. Getting Bonner vibes from him tho...
High DE%, 50% of his touches were contested and a goal early in the game. He could turn into a Bonner, but he is essentially an expensive rookie and it gives you flexibility to trade him out if he flops.
Also looked like he was taking the kick ins which was interesting
Would rather pay 80k extra for Brodie Smith, at least we know he's AA quality.
AA - 12 step program for those that start him.
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 11:52:55 PM
Idk how he has pulled a 94 from those stats sheesh but he is getting tempting. Getting Bonner vibes from him tho...
High DE%, 50% of his touches were contested and a goal early in the game. He could turn into a Bonner, but he is essentially an expensive rookie and it gives you flexibility to trade him out if he flops.
Also looked like he was taking the kick ins which was interesting
Would rather pay 80k extra for Brodie Smith, at least we know he's AA quality.
AA - 12 step program for those that start him.
Compared to Ridley? Happy to have a wager as to who's the better option.
You realise one is essentially rookie priced and one is pure mid pricer. It's apples and oranges. It's like saying 'I'd rather spend the extra 80k over Walsh to start Libba'
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2019, 12:21:19 AM
You realise one is essentially rookie priced and one is pure mid pricer. It's apples and oranges. It's like saying 'I'd rather spend the extra 80k over Walsh to start Libba'
I don't buy this artificial line in the sand reasoning, it's bollocks when you are talking about 80k, Walsh is a rookie but is 100k more than Gibbons. I'd prefer to argue the merits of each position on the field, that is the only logical comparison. When weighing up the merits of Smith I'm tossing up whether or not I should pay 188k for Collins, to me it comes down to upside & also the possibility I won't have to trade until after the byes. Smith has a great bye too so that is also factored into his starting price, fprm also pretty good in his past 13 games (five tons & seven 90+ scores). I'm also looking at roles on the field & Smith is being touted as a kick out player, think people need to look beyond the stale mid pricer vs rookie debates.
And just to throw a spanner in the works I'm probably not going to pick Walsh as most first year players struggle to hit 75.
But you aren't going to start a team full of 22 mid price options or field someone like Gibbons either. You're going to have to make concessions somewhere and that is generally which rookies are worth fielding and how much you're willing to pay for them. Ridley is exactly that. He appears to have a fantasy friendly role, is highly rated internally and has proved he can put up points the last couple of games.
For the record, I currently have Smith at D3 with Roberton, Ridley, Collins on the field. I don't think Smith will turn into a keeper, but he is a decent stepping stone at a position you can afford to pick a guy that will average 85.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2019, 12:47:04 AM
But you aren't going to start a team full of 22 mid price options or field someone like Gibbons either. You're going to have to make concessions somewhere and that is generally which rookies are worth fielding and how much you're willing to pay for them. Ridley is exactly that. He appears to have a fantasy friendly role, is highly rated internally and has proved he can put up points the last couple of games.
For the record, I currently have Smith at D3 with Roberton, Ridley, Collins on the field. I don't think Smith will turn into a keeper, but he is a decent stepping stone at a position you can afford to pick a guy that will average 85.
We're pretty much on the same page only different structures, I'm playing Roberton at D5 & Clark at D6, feeling content with that set up for the moment.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2019, 12:47:04 AM
But you aren't going to start a team full of 22 mid price options or field someone like Gibbons either. You're going to have to make concessions somewhere and that is generally which rookies are worth fielding and how much you're willing to pay for them. Ridley is exactly that. He appears to have a fantasy friendly role, is highly rated internally and has proved he can put up points the last couple of games.
For the record, I currently have Smith at D3 with Roberton, Ridley, Collins on the field. I don't think Smith will turn into a keeper, but he is a decent stepping stone at a position you can afford to pick a guy that will average 85.
that makes sense, and the def is a spot where it pays not to overpay at the start of the year. those that are seeing smith as a keeper are most likely to be disappointed. ridley and smith are similar options. higher point scoring stepping stones. will the points per $ be value compared to a lower priced rookie. with smith there is also the potential for another AA year and he ends up a keeper. my opinion is no. i have roberton, greene and libba atm and hoping two of them become keepers. doesnt mean smith is a bad pick it depends on what you are expecting and paying for.
I don't mind the Smith selection, can certainly understand the reasoning behind it but I'm not picking him simply because I don't want to get stuck with too many mid pricers
It's all good and well to say you'll upgrade him, he's a stepping stone etc, but the reality is that during the actual season you're going to have injuries to deal with, as well as upgrading rookies to prems, and with just 2 trades a week, if he (or any other mid pricer) is putting up 80ish you're going to keep him because getting a rookie off field is more of a priority
Fast forward to the business end of the season and you've still got that mid pricer because you've been upgrading and dealing with injuries, and by then it's too late, you're already too far behind having settled for their mid price average all season because you had other priorities
And that's why I only pick mid pricers that I hope will turn into keepers.
Back on topic though, I cannot see the appeal of Ridley at all
He scores well, but his JS will always be questionable and he's way too expensive for someone with uncertain JS, not to mention he'll take much longer to make just as much cash as someone 100k cheaper will. He's more expensive than Walsh! No chance I'd start him
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Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2019, 12:21:19 AM
You realise one is essentially rookie priced and one is pure mid pricer. It's apples and oranges. It's like saying 'I'd rather spend the extra 80k over Walsh to start Libba'
I don't buy this artificial line in the sand reasoning, it's bollocks when you are talking about 80k, Walsh is a rookie but is 100k more than Gibbons. I'd prefer to argue the merits of each position on the field, that is the only logical comparison. When weighing up the merits of Smith I'm tossing up whether or not I should pay 188k for Collins, to me it comes down to upside & also the possibility I won't have to trade until after the byes. Smith has a great bye too so that is also factored into his starting price, fprm also pretty good in his past 13 games (five tons & seven 90+ scores). I'm also looking at roles on the field & Smith is being touted as a kick out player, think people need to look beyond the stale mid pricer vs rookie debates.
And just to throw a spanner in the works I'm probably not going to pick Walsh as most first year players struggle to hit 75.
Well it's a line in the sand because at $200k you're looking for a $200k profit.
At $300k a $200k profit is a low end keeper.
A $300k mid pricer that makes $150k is a failure because of the opportunity cost. Not the same story for a $200k rookie - you can live with a $150k profit, particularly if they are a popular pick.
With Ridley performing well in two games he is definitely coming into my considerations.
What role has he played in both games?
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With Ridley performing well in two games he is definitely coming into my considerations.
What role has he played in both games?
Sweeping at HB and taking some of the kickins
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With Ridley performing well in two games he is definitely coming into my considerations.
What role has he played in both games?
Sweeping at HB and taking some of the kickins
Great position to score in but Essendon have so many of those types. I’ll pass. Could also be a Bonner 2.0
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Quote from: Bully on March 08, 2019, 12:41:50 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2019, 12:21:19 AM
You realise one is essentially rookie priced and one is pure mid pricer. It's apples and oranges. It's like saying 'I'd rather spend the extra 80k over Walsh to start Libba'
I don't buy this artificial line in the sand reasoning, it's bollocks when you are talking about 80k, Walsh is a rookie but is 100k more than Gibbons. I'd prefer to argue the merits of each position on the field, that is the only logical comparison. When weighing up the merits of Smith I'm tossing up whether or not I should pay 188k for Collins, to me it comes down to upside & also the possibility I won't have to trade until after the byes. Smith has a great bye too so that is also factored into his starting price, fprm also pretty good in his past 13 games (five tons & seven 90+ scores). I'm also looking at roles on the field & Smith is being touted as a kick out player, think people need to look beyond the stale mid pricer vs rookie debates.
And just to throw a spanner in the works I'm probably not going to pick Walsh as most first year players struggle to hit 75.
Well it's a line in the sand because at $200k you're looking for a $200k profit.
At $300k a $200k profit is a low end keeper.
A $300k mid pricer that makes $150k is a failure because of the opportunity cost. Not the same story for a $200k rookie - you can live with a $150k profit, particularly if they are a popular pick.
Think you will find very few rookies/mid pricers make 200k profit, 150k more realistic. When I take Smith for example, I can see his ceiling will be in the 450k-500k range, he has hit that mark pretty much every season. The real question is when, given he's a high standard deviation player that could work out ie. around the byes, or it could be poor timing & I'm stuck with him indefinitely. That is the risk I'm willing to take because I'd rather see who emerges as a top 6 mid.
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Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2019, 12:21:19 AM
You realise one is essentially rookie priced and one is pure mid pricer. It's apples and oranges. It's like saying 'I'd rather spend the extra 80k over Walsh to start Libba'
I don't buy this artificial line in the sand reasoning, it's bollocks when you are talking about 80k, Walsh is a rookie but is 100k more than Gibbons. I'd prefer to argue the merits of each position on the field, that is the only logical comparison. When weighing up the merits of Smith I'm tossing up whether or not I should pay 188k for Collins, to me it comes down to upside & also the possibility I won't have to trade until after the byes. Smith has a great bye too so that is also factored into his starting price, fprm also pretty good in his past 13 games (five tons & seven 90+ scores). I'm also looking at roles on the field & Smith is being touted as a kick out player, think people need to look beyond the stale mid pricer vs rookie debates.
And just to throw a spanner in the works I'm probably not going to pick Walsh as most first year players struggle to hit 75.
Well it's a line in the sand because at $200k you're looking for a $200k profit.
At $300k a $200k profit is a low end keeper.
A $300k mid pricer that makes $150k is a failure because of the opportunity cost. Not the same story for a $200k rookie - you can live with a $150k profit, particularly if they are a popular pick.
Think you will find very few rookies/mid pricers make 200k profit, 150k more realistic. When I take Smith for example, I can see his ceiling will be in the 450k-500k range, he has hit that mark pretty much every season. The real question is when, given he's a high standard deviation player that could work out ie. around the byes, or it could be poor timing & I'm stuck with him indefinitely. That is the risk I'm willing to take because I'd rather see who emerges as a top 6 mid.
a 80 player is valued at 435k and players dont reach that value due to the magic number and how the rolling average works. So if he puts up 80ish then he will likely make less then 100k.
For Brad Crouch if he goes 95 then thats a value of 520k so if he does that he will go up around 80k.
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Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2019, 12:21:19 AM
You realise one is essentially rookie priced and one is pure mid pricer. It's apples and oranges. It's like saying 'I'd rather spend the extra 80k over Walsh to start Libba'
I don't buy this artificial line in the sand reasoning, it's bollocks when you are talking about 80k, Walsh is a rookie but is 100k more than Gibbons. I'd prefer to argue the merits of each position on the field, that is the only logical comparison. When weighing up the merits of Smith I'm tossing up whether or not I should pay 188k for Collins, to me it comes down to upside & also the possibility I won't have to trade until after the byes. Smith has a great bye too so that is also factored into his starting price, fprm also pretty good in his past 13 games (five tons & seven 90+ scores). I'm also looking at roles on the field & Smith is being touted as a kick out player, think people need to look beyond the stale mid pricer vs rookie debates.
And just to throw a spanner in the works I'm probably not going to pick Walsh as most first year players struggle to hit 75.
Well it's a line in the sand because at $200k you're looking for a $200k profit.
At $300k a $200k profit is a low end keeper.
A $300k mid pricer that makes $150k is a failure because of the opportunity cost. Not the same story for a $200k rookie - you can live with a $150k profit, particularly if they are a popular pick.
Think you will find very few rookies/mid pricers make 200k profit, 150k more realistic. When I take Smith for example, I can see his ceiling will be in the 450k-500k range, he has hit that mark pretty much every season. The real question is when, given he's a high standard deviation player that could work out ie. around the byes, or it could be poor timing & I'm stuck with him indefinitely. That is the risk I'm willing to take because I'd rather see who emerges as a top 6 mid.
a 80 player is valued at 435k and players dont reach that value due to the magic number and how the rolling average works. So if he puts up 80ish then he will likely make less then 100k.
For Brad Crouch if he goes 95 then thats a value of 520k so if he does that he will go up around 80k.
Smith is a high standard deviation player, he is also a confidence player who can have some decent stretches.
2017 (round 12-21) - 114, 60, 108, 91, 77, 80, 127, 91, 125
2016 (round 1-6) - 94, 86, 107, 65, 87, 82
2015 (round 17-22) - 83, 64, 101, 76, 108, 126
2014 (round 7-14) - 138, 102, 67, 123, 98, 133, 89
I don't think it's a question of' 'if' he'll hit 450k, it's more about when he does it. Given he looks to be in pretty good form I'm rolling the dice & hopefully by the round 14 bye he'll be an easy sideways trade to a top 6 defender.
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Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2019, 12:21:19 AM
You realise one is essentially rookie priced and one is pure mid pricer. It's apples and oranges. It's like saying 'I'd rather spend the extra 80k over Walsh to start Libba'
I don't buy this artificial line in the sand reasoning, it's bollocks when you are talking about 80k, Walsh is a rookie but is 100k more than Gibbons. I'd prefer to argue the merits of each position on the field, that is the only logical comparison. When weighing up the merits of Smith I'm tossing up whether or not I should pay 188k for Collins, to me it comes down to upside & also the possibility I won't have to trade until after the byes. Smith has a great bye too so that is also factored into his starting price, fprm also pretty good in his past 13 games (five tons & seven 90+ scores). I'm also looking at roles on the field & Smith is being touted as a kick out player, think people need to look beyond the stale mid pricer vs rookie debates.
And just to throw a spanner in the works I'm probably not going to pick Walsh as most first year players struggle to hit 75.
Well it's a line in the sand because at $200k you're looking for a $200k profit.
At $300k a $200k profit is a low end keeper.
A $300k mid pricer that makes $150k is a failure because of the opportunity cost. Not the same story for a $200k rookie - you can live with a $150k profit, particularly if they are a popular pick.
Think you will find very few rookies/mid pricers make 200k profit, 150k more realistic. When I take Smith for example, I can see his ceiling will be in the 450k-500k range, he has hit that mark pretty much every season. The real question is when, given he's a high standard deviation player that could work out ie. around the byes, or it could be poor timing & I'm stuck with him indefinitely. That is the risk I'm willing to take because I'd rather see who emerges as a top 6 mid.
a 80 player is valued at 435k and players dont reach that value due to the magic number and how the rolling average works. So if he puts up 80ish then he will likely make less then 100k.
For Brad Crouch if he goes 95 then thats a value of 520k so if he does that he will go up around 80k.
Smith is a high standard deviation player, he is also a confidence player who can have some decent stretches.
2017 (round 12-21) - 114, 60, 108, 91, 77, 80, 127, 91, 125
2016 (round 1-6) - 94, 86, 107, 65, 87, 82
2015 (round 17-22) - 83, 64, 101, 76, 108, 126
2014 (round 7-14) - 138, 102, 67, 123, 98, 133, 89
I don't think it's a question of' 'if' he'll hit 450k, it's more about when he does it. Given he looks to be in pretty good form I'm rolling the dice & hopefully by the round 14 bye he'll be an easy sideways trade to a top 6 defender.
ok but if he is to average 80 and he has some good purple patches doesn't that mean he also has some quiet patches.
what if he comes out like 2017 and goes
85 81 73 95 74 76 48 84 35 60 114 60
I have him going up to 355k and averaging 74. That would be an absolute disaster.
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Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2019, 12:21:19 AM
You realise one is essentially rookie priced and one is pure mid pricer. It's apples and oranges. It's like saying 'I'd rather spend the extra 80k over Walsh to start Libba'
I don't buy this artificial line in the sand reasoning, it's bollocks when you are talking about 80k, Walsh is a rookie but is 100k more than Gibbons. I'd prefer to argue the merits of each position on the field, that is the only logical comparison. When weighing up the merits of Smith I'm tossing up whether or not I should pay 188k for Collins, to me it comes down to upside & also the possibility I won't have to trade until after the byes. Smith has a great bye too so that is also factored into his starting price, fprm also pretty good in his past 13 games (five tons & seven 90+ scores). I'm also looking at roles on the field & Smith is being touted as a kick out player, think people need to look beyond the stale mid pricer vs rookie debates.
And just to throw a spanner in the works I'm probably not going to pick Walsh as most first year players struggle to hit 75.
Well it's a line in the sand because at $200k you're looking for a $200k profit.
At $300k a $200k profit is a low end keeper.
A $300k mid pricer that makes $150k is a failure because of the opportunity cost. Not the same story for a $200k rookie - you can live with a $150k profit, particularly if they are a popular pick.
Think you will find very few rookies/mid pricers make 200k profit, 150k more realistic. When I take Smith for example, I can see his ceiling will be in the 450k-500k range, he has hit that mark pretty much every season. The real question is when, given he's a high standard deviation player that could work out ie. around the byes, or it could be poor timing & I'm stuck with him indefinitely. That is the risk I'm willing to take because I'd rather see who emerges as a top 6 mid.
a 80 player is valued at 435k and players dont reach that value due to the magic number and how the rolling average works. So if he puts up 80ish then he will likely make less then 100k.
For Brad Crouch if he goes 95 then thats a value of 520k so if he does that he will go up around 80k.
Smith is a high standard deviation player, he is also a confidence player who can have some decent stretches.
2017 (round 12-21) - 114, 60, 108, 91, 77, 80, 127, 91, 125
2016 (round 1-6) - 94, 86, 107, 65, 87, 82
2015 (round 17-22) - 83, 64, 101, 76, 108, 126
2014 (round 7-14) - 138, 102, 67, 123, 98, 133, 89
I don't think it's a question of' 'if' he'll hit 450k, it's more about when he does it. Given he looks to be in pretty good form I'm rolling the dice & hopefully by the round 14 bye he'll be an easy sideways trade to a top 6 defender.
ok but if he is to average 80 and he has some good purple patches doesn't that mean he also has some quiet patches.
what if he comes out like 2017 and goes
85 81 73 95 74 76 48 84 35 60 114 60
I have him going up to 355k and averaging 74. That would be an absolute disaster.
Well that's the luck of the draw I guess, going on his last 13 games I'm rolling the dice, his JLT form a continuation of that recent trend. Could be a dud pick but as an absolute worst case scenario he makes small amount & I bring in a top 6 defender. Think with the mid pricers it's a lottery but you generally need to make a couple of correct calls to get an edge. I have B.Crouch/Greene/Williams/B.Smith/Roberton, that's 5 & with any luck I walk away with 3 keepers.
Seems at least one of Wilkie/Joyce should play for the Saints round 1, as Austin isn't playing in JLT2 either (heaven knows why).
So should be another rookie there to look at.
Rory Thompson has done his ACL and is out for the year. Does this make Collins a better pick? Suring up his job security if it wasn't already good.
Done this in previous years, seemed to be useful, thought I'd make a list of all the rookies with at a decent chance of playing rd. 1 for reference. (Walsh's price or cheaper, bolded the 124ks or less)
Will narrow the list to just confirmed players when the round 1 sides get named :)
If I'm forgetting anyone, or if anyone here is confirmed no chance lemme know and I'll amend it though.
Defence:
Keeffe 8) ($190,500)
(FWD) Rozee ($189,300)
Collins ($188,900)
Cumming ($173,700)
Logue ($164,300)
Quaynor ($153,300)
Scrimshaw ($149,800)
Clark ($144,300)
(MID) Duursma (130,800)
Wilkie ($124,900)
(FWD) Burgess ($123,900)
Jones ($123,900)
McKay ($123,900)
Joyce ($123,900)
Hore ($117,300)
Mids:
Walsh ($207,300)
Davies-Uniacke ($197,500)
B Smith ($180,300)
C Jones ($171,300)
Caldwell ($162,300)
Butters ($157,800)
Hately ($148,800)
Constable ($123,900)
Bewley ($117,300)
Hind ($117,300)
Hayes ($117,300)
Scott ($117,300)
Atkins ($112,900)
Gibbons ($102,400)
Rucks:
A Smith ($172,300)
Clarke ($142,600)
Fort ($117,300)
Forwards:
Lukosius ($202,800)
Rankine ($198,300)
Polson 8) ($191,800)
Blakey ($166,800)
Lewis ($149,000)
(MID) Setterfield ($144,900)
Miers ($123,900)
Hanrahan ($123,900)
(MID) Drew ($123,900)
Balta ($123,900)
Petrucelle ($123,900)
Parker ($117,300)
Cavarra ($117,300)
Quote from: dmac07 on March 09, 2019, 11:10:06 AM
Rory Thompson has done his ACL and is out for the year. Does this make Collins a better pick? Suring up his job security if it wasn't already good.
Potentially means Ben King gets a run.
Quote from: SilverLion on March 09, 2019, 11:17:23 AM
Done this in previous years, seemed to be useful, thought I'd make a list of all the rookies with at a decent chance of playing rd. 1 for reference: (Walsh's price or cheaper, bolded the 124ks or less)
Will narrow the list to just confirmed players when the round 1 sides get named :)
If I'm forgetting anyone, or if anyone here is confirmed no chance lemme know and I'll amend it though.
Defence:
Keeffe 8) ($190,500)
(FWD) Rozee ($189,300)
Collins ($188,900)
Cumming ($173,700)
Logue ($164,300)
Quaynor ($153,300)
Clark ($144,300)
(MID) Duursma (130,800)
Wilkie ($124,900)
(FWD) Burgess ($123,900)
Jones ($123,900)
McKay ($123,900)
Joyce ($123,900)
Hore ($117,300)
Mids:
Walsh ($207,300)
Davies-Uniacke ($197,500)
B Smith ($180,300)
C Jones ($171,300)
Caldwell ($162,300)
Butters ($157,800)
Hately ($148,800)
Constable ($123,900)
Bewley ($117,300)
Hind ($117,300)
Hayes ($117,300)
Atkins ($112,900)
Gibbons ($102,400)
Rucks:
A Smith ($172,300)
Clarke ($142,600)
Fort ($117,300)
Forwards:
Lukosius ($202,800)
Rankine ($198,300)
Polson 8) ($191,800)
Blakey ($166,800)
(MID) Setterfield ($144,900)
Lewis ($149,000)
Miers ($123,900)
Hanrahan ($123,900)
(MID) Drew ($123,900)
Balta ($123,900)
Petrucelle ($123,900)
Parker ($117,300)
Cavarra ($117,300)
Thanks SL
Bailey Scott another rookie who should play round 1.
Should be good for a 60 average I think which wouldn’t be too bad for a bench player.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 09, 2019, 02:43:32 PM
Bailey Scott another rookie who should play round 1.
Should be good for a 60 average I think which wouldn’t be too bad for a bench player.
he looks very good, 17 touches and 2 goals in 58% TOG
Another great outing for Drew
Has to be a real chance of playing Round 1, and he can comfortably be fielded
F5/6 lock
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 04:43:02 PM
Another great outing for Drew
Has to be a real chance of playing Round 1, and he can comfortably be fielded
F5/6 lock
Duursmma was better than ok aswell. $130k def/mid
James Cousins > Sam Walsh. No bias
Scrimshaw 12 touches in the first 1/4 :o :o :o He may just get a gig
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
James Cousins > Sam Walsh. No bias
Got both
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Scrimshaw 12 touches in the first 1/4 :o :o :o He may just get a gig
He is going nuts!
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
James Cousins > Sam Walsh. No bias
Got both
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 07:38:35 PM
Scrimshaw 12 touches in the first 1/4 :o :o :o He may just get a gig
He is going nuts!
That stat line from Scrimshaw is actually insane. 12 touches, 7 kicks, 4 marks, 6 contested, 2 clearances and a goal for 53 SC... Thats genuinely crazy numbers. Clarko has done it again
Damn scrimshaw. Could be a good pick
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
James Cousins > Sam Walsh. No bias
Got both
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 07:38:35 PM
Scrimshaw 12 touches in the first 1/4 :o :o :o He may just get a gig
He is going nuts!
That stat line from Scrimshaw is actually insane. 12 touches, 7 kicks, 4 marks, 6 contested, 2 clearances and a goal for 53 SC... Thats genuinely crazy numbers. Clarko has done it again
Clarko? Settle down lol he was a Top 10 draft pick
lol hawkers
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Quote from: Mat0369 on March 09, 2019, 07:44:06 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
James Cousins > Sam Walsh. No bias
Got both
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 07:38:35 PM
Scrimshaw 12 touches in the first 1/4 :o :o :o He may just get a gig
He is going nuts!
That stat line from Scrimshaw is actually insane. 12 touches, 7 kicks, 4 marks, 6 contested, 2 clearances and a goal for 53 SC... Thats genuinely crazy numbers. Clarko has done it again
Clarko? Settle down lol he was a Top 10 draft pick
Scouted him the beginning of last year, got the ground work in early, gave up peanuts and has turned someone who "didnt want to play footy anymore" into someone producing that stat line in his 2nd game. Play it down. I guess JOM wasnt a good turn around either cause he was a high pick? ;)
Yep, it's all because of Clarko
And JOM? Lol! He's been a gun from day 1, only injury has stopped him, nothing to do with Clarko either
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:22:28 PM
Yep, it's all because of Clarko
You'd think after his 15 years someone wouldn't doubt the man. Its well known Clarko takes a more first hand approach compared to other coaches when it comes to recruiting over the years.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:22:28 PM
Yep, it's all because of Clarko
You'd think after his 15 years someone wouldn't doubt the man. Its well known Clarko takes a more first hand approach compared to other coaches when it comes to recruiting over the years.
Doubt the man? You're implying Scrimshaw had that big quarter because of Clarko and that's laughable
Kid went Pick 7, obviously has a lot of talent. His stat's have nothing to do with Clarko
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:22:28 PM
Yep, it's all because of Clarko
You'd think after his 15 years someone wouldn't doubt the man. Its well known Clarko takes a more first hand approach compared to other coaches when it comes to recruiting over the years.
Doubt the man? You're implying Scrimshaw had that big quarter because of Clarko and that's odd
Kid went Pick 7, obviously has a lot of talent. His stat's have nothing to do with Clarko
I'm saying Clarko's recruiting ability is almost unrivalled and he has done it again this off season. So the stat line being in the brown in gold has nothing to do with Clarko...?
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:22:28 PM
Yep, it's all because of Clarko
You'd think after his 15 years someone wouldn't doubt the man. Its well known Clarko takes a more first hand approach compared to other coaches when it comes to recruiting over the years.
Doubt the man? You're implying Scrimshaw had that big quarter because of Clarko and that's odd
Kid went Pick 7, obviously has a lot of talent. His stat's have nothing to do with Clarko
Whilst I won’t go as far as to say “Clarko has done it again†in a JLT game, I will definitely jump on hawkers bandwagon here if he repeats this in the real stuff.
I don’t know how anyone couldn’t agree with the statement Clarko has done it again if he does it in the real season.
It’s odd that you don’t think it’s got everything to do with Clarko.
Because yes it’s to do with Clarko with JOM as well.
And it will be to do with Clarko again if they get Scully up and going.
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 08:32:11 PM
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:22:28 PM
Yep, it's all because of Clarko
You'd think after his 15 years someone wouldn't doubt the man. Its well known Clarko takes a more first hand approach compared to other coaches when it comes to recruiting over the years.
Doubt the man? You're implying Scrimshaw had that big quarter because of Clarko and that's odd
Kid went Pick 7, obviously has a lot of talent. His stat's have nothing to do with Clarko
I'm saying Clarko's recruiting ability is almost unrivalled and he has done it again this off season. So the stat line being in the brown in gold has nothing to do with Clarko...?
Clarko got a Pick 7 to the club because it was well known he wanted out - yeah that's genius! Who would have thought a Top 10 pick is actually a good player?!
Drafting a player who was a late pick for example would be worth bragging about, but to give Clarko credit in this case when the player was a Top 10 pick who wanted to leave his former club is odd
You're a Hawk supporter though, so I get that you support Clarko
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 08:36:48 PM
Raisy has a habit of assuming implications. I legit wrote his stat line then said Clarko has done it again. Then Raisy comes in and says lol Clarko and cooks up i said his stats are cause of Clarko. You need a better grasp of learning to read someones implications rather than making something completely up to feed your argument. Clarko is a genius at recruiting, has been for 15 years now. You disagree with that then theres no point even arguing.
JOM pick 1
Scully pick 1
Scrimshaw pick 7
Yeah, takes a real genius to figure out they'd be good players to have on your list
I'm not assuming implications, you're simply giving praise to someone when it's not warranted
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:22:28 PM
Yep, it's all because of Clarko
You'd think after his 15 years someone wouldn't doubt the man. Its well known Clarko takes a more first hand approach compared to other coaches when it comes to recruiting over the years.
Doubt the man? You're implying Scrimshaw had that big quarter because of Clarko and that's odd
Kid went Pick 7, obviously has a lot of talent. His stat's have nothing to do with Clarko
I'm saying Clarko's recruiting ability is almost unrivalled and he has done it again this off season. So the stat line being in the brown in gold has nothing to do with Clarko...?
Clarko got a Pick 7 to the club because it was well known he wanted out - yeah that's genius! Who would have thought a Top 10 pick is actually a good player?!
Drafting a player who was a late pick for example would be worth bragging about, but to give Clarko credit in this case when the player was a Top 10 pick who wanted to leave his former club is laughable
You're a Hawk supporter though, so I get that you support Clarko
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 08:36:48 PM
Raisy has a habit of assuming implications. I legit wrote his stat line then said Clarko has done it again. Then Raisy comes in and says lol Clarko and cooks up i said his stats are cause of Clarko. You need a better grasp of learning to read someones implications rather than making something completely up to feed your argument. Clarko is a genius at recruiting, has been for 15 years now. You disagree with that then theres no point even arguing.
JOM pick 1
Scully pick 1
Scrimshaw pick 7
Yeah, takes a real genius to figure out they'd be good players to have on your list
I'm not assuming implications, you're simply giving praise to someone when it's not warranted
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here agreeing with one another.
devon smith, dylan shiel, adam saad and stringer
id rather Worsfold thanks
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 08:36:48 PM
Raisy has a habit of assuming implications. I legit wrote his stat line then said Clarko has done it again. Then Raisy comes in and says lol Clarko and cooks up i said his stats are cause of Clarko. You need a better grasp of learning to read someones implications rather than making something completely up to feed your argument. Clarko is a genius at recruiting, has been for 15 years now. You disagree with that then theres no point even arguing.
JOM pick 1
Scully pick 1
Scrimshaw pick 7
Yeah, takes a real genius to figure out they'd be good players to have on your list
I'm not assuming implications, you're simply giving praise to someone when it's not warranted
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here agreeing with one another.
Too many old timers on here that think their opinions are bulletproof because of the "Master Coach" next to their name.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:22:28 PM
Yep, it's all because of Clarko
You'd think after his 15 years someone wouldn't doubt the man. Its well known Clarko takes a more first hand approach compared to other coaches when it comes to recruiting over the years.
Doubt the man? You're implying Scrimshaw had that big quarter because of Clarko and that's odd
Kid went Pick 7, obviously has a lot of talent. His stat's have nothing to do with Clarko
I'm saying Clarko's recruiting ability is almost unrivalled and he has done it again this off season. So the stat line being in the brown in gold has nothing to do with Clarko...?
Clarko got a Pick 7 to the club because it was well known he wanted out - yeah that's genius! Who would have thought a Top 10 pick is actually a good player?!
Drafting a player who was a late pick for example would be worth bragging about, but to give Clarko credit in this case when the player was a Top 10 pick who wanted to leave his former club is laughable
You're a Hawk supporter though, so I get that you support Clarko
Mod Edit: Another post that has nothing of any note worth leaving! Wow!
Mod Edit: Who would've thought that the reply to an off-topic post was also going to be off topic?! Not me that's for sure!
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 09, 2019, 08:50:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 08:36:48 PM
Raisy has a habit of assuming implications. I legit wrote his stat line then said Clarko has done it again. Then Raisy comes in and says lol Clarko and cooks up i said his stats are cause of Clarko. You need a better grasp of learning to read someones implications rather than making something completely up to feed your argument. Clarko is a genius at recruiting, has been for 15 years now. You disagree with that then theres no point even arguing.
JOM pick 1
Scully pick 1
Scrimshaw pick 7
Yeah, takes a real genius to figure out they'd be good players to have on your list
I'm not assuming implications, you're simply giving praise to someone when it's not warranted
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here sucking up to one another.
Too many old timers on here that think their opinions are bulletproof because of the "Master Coach" next to their name.
Half of the people on here have ZERO idea about football in real life. They will be number crunching geeks sitting behind their keyboards.
In saying all that there are probably 5-6 people on here with some idea about the fantasy side of things.
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 09, 2019, 08:50:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 08:36:48 PM
Raisy has a habit of assuming implications. I legit wrote his stat line then said Clarko has done it again. Then Raisy comes in and says lol Clarko and cooks up i said his stats are cause of Clarko. You need a better grasp of learning to read someones implications rather than making something completely up to feed your argument. Clarko is a genius at recruiting, has been for 15 years now. You disagree with that then theres no point even arguing.
JOM pick 1
Scully pick 1
Scrimshaw pick 7
Yeah, takes a real genius to figure out they'd be good players to have on your list
I'm not assuming implications, you're simply giving praise to someone when it's not warranted
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here sucking up to one another.
Too many old timers on here that think their opinions are bulletproof because of the "Master Coach" next to their name. Nothing worse than an ego being projected on everyone else's view from behind a keyboard.
Half of the people on here have ZERO idea about football in real life. They will be number crunching geeks sitting behind their keyboards.
In saying all that there are probably 5-6 people on here with some idea about the fantasy side of things.
Look you're not wrong
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 09:01:30 PM
The irony
Hawker and eaglesman, the two people on this forum who talk down to everyone like they're far superior than the rest of us, are now teaming up together
How cute
Just for record, I’m not teaming up ... if hawker makes stupid comments I’ll berate him as much as I will you or anyone else.
Furthermore I actually agree with a lot of what you say most of the time haha
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 09, 2019, 08:50:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 08:36:48 PM
Raisy has a habit of assuming implications. I legit wrote his stat line then said Clarko has done it again. Then Raisy comes in and says lol Clarko and cooks up i said his stats are cause of Clarko. You need a better grasp of learning to read someones implications rather than making something completely up to feed your argument. Clarko is a genius at recruiting, has been for 15 years now. You disagree with that then theres no point even arguing.
JOM pick 1
Scully pick 1
Scrimshaw pick 7
Yeah, takes a real genius to figure out they'd be good players to have on your list
I'm not assuming implications, you're simply giving praise to someone when it's not warranted
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here sucking up to one another.
Too many old timers on here that think their opinions are bulletproof because of the "Master Coach" next to their name. Nothing worse than an ego being projected on everyone else's view from behind a keyboard.
Half of the people on here have ZERO idea about football in real life. They will be number crunching geeks sitting behind their keyboards.
In saying all that there are probably 5-6 people on here with some idea about the fantasy side of things.
Why do you feel the need to continually say most people here are idiots, and only you and 5-6 people you rate know anything?
You're an absolute legend, and when you keep saying stuff like that all it shows is how much I really enjoy your forum input.
You had a high finish one year, we can all learn from you. In fact, we can all learn from each other. Take in opinions from a wide variety of people that we may or may not agree with.
Quote from: eaglesman on March 09, 2019, 08:50:50 PM
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here sucking up to one another.
flower oath, the hivemind and echo chamber of this board is hilarious.
Most of the blokes in here have bigger egos than they'd like to admit and take all of this way too serious haha.
Makes for a bloody good read for the rest of us though.
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Raisy has a habit of assuming implications. I legit wrote his stat line then said Clarko has done it again. Then Raisy comes in and says lol Clarko and cooks up i said his stats are cause of Clarko. You need a better grasp of learning to read someones implications rather than making something completely up to feed your argument. Clarko is a genius at recruiting, has been for 15 years now. You disagree with that then theres no point even arguing.
JOM pick 1
Scully pick 1
Scrimshaw pick 7
Yeah, takes a real genius to figure out they'd be good players to have on your list
I'm not assuming implications, you're simply giving praise to someone when it's not warranted
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here sucking up to one another.
Too many old timers on here that think their opinions are bulletproof because of the "Master Coach" next to their name. Nothing worse than an ego being projected on everyone else's view from behind a keyboard.
Half of the people on here have ZERO idea about football in real life. They will
Be number crunching geeks sitting behind their keyboards.
In saying all that there are probably 5-6 people on here with some idea about the fantasy side of things.
Why do you feel the need to continually say most people here are idiots, and only you and 5-6 people you rate know anything?
You're an absolute legend, and when you keep saying stuff like that all it shows is how much I really enjoy your forum input.
You had a high finish one year, we can all learn from you. In fact, we can all learn from each other. Take in opinions from a wide variety of people that we may or may not agree with.
I’m here cos I like it when people do research for me. And then get the opinions of the good blokes as we filter through the opinions we don't agree with, because it's a forum and there will always be people that don't agree with me.
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Quote from: eaglesman on March 09, 2019, 08:50:50 PM
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here sucking up to one another.
flower oath, the hivemind and echo chamber of this board is hilarious.
Most of the blokes in here have bigger egos than they'd like to admit and take all of this way too serious haha.
Makes for a bloody good read for the rest of us though.
Definitely with you on that. Some refreshing realism to stir the pot also reads alright
Edit: ^^ Nah mod edit, bye comment
Quote from: eaglesman on March 09, 2019, 09:04:52 PM
That ele is a clueless no hoper but.
Uh oh did I make you sad?
Mod Edit: No thanks ele, none of that please
Getting back on Topic.. did Scrimshaw go off at half time or just has not got near it?
Quote from: tkringle on March 09, 2019, 09:41:55 PM
Getting back on Topic.. did Scrimshaw go off at half time or just has not got near it?
Backline changed at half time. He changed who was loose and who was man on man. He showed enough to be more than an option with the limited back rookies this year.
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 09:44:13 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 09, 2019, 09:41:55 PM
Getting back on Topic.. did Scrimshaw go off at half time or just has not got near it?
Backline changed at half time. He changed who was loose and who was man on man. He showed enough to be more than an option with the limited back rookies this year.
Has been on the radar but never actually in my team. Potentially too many defensive rookies available.
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 09:16:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 09, 2019, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 09, 2019, 08:50:50 PM
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here sucking up to one another.
flower oath, the hivemind and echo chamber of this board is hilarious.
Most of the blokes in here have bigger egos than they'd like to admit and take all of this way too serious haha.
Makes for a bloody good read for the rest of us though.
Definitely with you on that. Some refreshing realism to stir the pot also reads alright
Edit: ^^ Nah mod edit, bye comment
And what views am I pressing?
Mod Edit: Retracted
What is Hore's JS going to be like?
I'll be worried if May cops a week and Hore is named rd1.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 09:16:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 09, 2019, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 09, 2019, 08:50:50 PM
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here sucking up to one another.
flower oath, the hivemind and echo chamber of this board is hilarious.
Most of the blokes in here have bigger egos than they'd like to admit and take all of this way too serious haha.
Makes for a bloody good read for the rest of us though.
Definitely with you on that. Some refreshing realism to stir the pot also reads alright
Edit: ^^ Nah mod edit, bye comment
And what views am I pressing?
Mod Edit: Retracted
RD can you stop replying to me now and get back to doing things like that bye planner thread and posting all the JLT stats. The good stuff is what we are all grateful for.
Mod Edit: :)
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2019, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 09, 2019, 09:16:47 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 09, 2019, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 09, 2019, 08:50:50 PM
I’m just happy hawker is speaking his mind rather than like everyone else on here sucking up to one another.
flower oath, the hivemind and echo chamber of this board is hilarious.
Most of the blokes in here have bigger egos than they'd like to admit and take all of this way too serious haha.
Makes for a bloody good read for the rest of us though.
Definitely with you on that. Some refreshing realism to stir the pot also reads alright
Edit: ^^ Nah mod edit, bye comment
And what views am I pressing?
Mod Edit: Retracted
RD can you stop replying to me now and get back to doing things like that bye planner thread and posting all the JLT stats. The good stuff is what we are all grateful for.
Mod Edit: :)
Mod Edit: Losing this post was an accident my bad, had something to do with Hawks season being over when Titch got injured.
Play nice everyone and stick to the topic, only 12 days to go until the season starts :)
Watched Bailey Scott do really well today. Any chance he's best 22 at North? He's tempting at that price
Way too much modding - let the boys banter ffs.
Didn't realise FF forums would get me my daily sodium intake in 1 hit wow
Quote from: duffercoat on March 09, 2019, 11:10:05 PM
Watched Bailey Scott do really well today. Any chance he's best 22 at North? He's tempting at that price
Hope so, I have him M8 atm
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 09, 2019, 11:12:09 PM
Way too much modding - let the boys banter ffs.
Yeah wtf, apparently its a cotton wooled nanny site now. Genuinely modded everything. Let the lads enjoy the banter read. Spice things up.
Quote from: Fid on March 09, 2019, 11:14:05 PM
Quote from: duffercoat on March 09, 2019, 11:10:05 PM
Watched Bailey Scott do really well today. Any chance he's best 22 at North? He's tempting at that price
Hope so, I have him M8 atm
I dropped Gibbons for him. I have Atkins/Scott over Gibbons for the time being. Just more of a ceiling with Scott if he can play Round 1 i feel.
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 09, 2019, 11:12:09 PM
Way too much modding - let the boys banter ffs.
Yeah wtf, apparently its a cotton wooled nanny site now. Genuinely modded everything. Let the lads enjoy the banter read. Spice things up.
Even got a Private message saying to cut it out ... pathetic
Mod Edit: you all got the message :) No personal abuse, pretty straightforward lads. 2019 Rookies thread, stay on topic from this moment on
Stengle kicked four in the ressies against Norwood. That goes with the 4 he kicked against Port in the U/23 praccie match.
Is it no Cavara again? Shakes things up
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 10, 2019, 04:02:14 PM
Is it no Cavara again? Shakes things up
Yep, makes the case for dropping Laird even more compelling.
Its so strange, Bont reved him up so much before the JLT started, has been in the squad both times but no start.
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Is it no Cavara again? Shakes things up
Yep, makes the case for dropping Laird even more compelling.
Laird to Williams, Kelly at F4
Cavarra had a slight quad strain at training this week. Pretty sure he was set to play before that.
Forward rookies have me quite worried. It is looking very thin.
Currently my F5 to F8 are Setterfield, Drew, Balta and Parker and even then the only 1 that has decent JS is Setterfield.
Quote from: AaronKirk on March 10, 2019, 06:58:39 PM
Forward rookies have me quite worried. It is looking very thin.
Currently my F5 to F8 are Setterfield, Drew, Balta and Parker and even then the only 1 that has decent JS is Setterfield.
Forward rookies are certainly a concern, I've had to rejig my side to get an extra premo in there.
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2019, 07:01:04 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on March 10, 2019, 06:58:39 PM
Forward rookies have me quite worried. It is looking very thin.
Currently my F5 to F8 are Setterfield, Drew, Balta and Parker and even then the only 1 that has decent JS is Setterfield.
Forward rookies are certainly a concern, I've had to rejig my side to get an extra premo in there.
part of the reason laird went was so I could have greene at f4.
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Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2019, 07:01:04 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on March 10, 2019, 06:58:39 PM
Forward rookies have me quite worried. It is looking very thin.
Currently my F5 to F8 are Setterfield, Drew, Balta and Parker and even then the only 1 that has decent JS is Setterfield.
Forward rookies are certainly a concern, I've had to rejig my side to get an extra premo in there.
part of the reason laird went was so I could have greene at f4.
Have done the same, hopefully Petrucelle steps up this match.
If you're starting Toby Greene keep an eye on Lincoln McCarthy. He is that awkward mid 200's price but he has had a couple of solid JLT games and may be the guy you have to downgrade to if Greene turns pear shaped. I think the best bet for forward rookies is Setters/Drew at F5/F6 with Parker/Balta on your bench.
Drew should be serviceable until Wines gets back, then he is going to have a change in role stepping into the guts. Parker will play, but small forwards will put up an occasional 90 followed by a bunch of 30-40 scores. Balta I have doubts on his job security or if he lines up R1.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 10, 2019, 07:56:37 PM
If you're starting Toby Greene keep an eye on Lincoln McCarthy. He is that awkward mid 200's price but he has had a couple of solid JLT games and may be the guy you have to downgrade to if Greene turns pear shaped. I think the best bet for forward rookies is Setters/Drew at F5/F6 with Parker/Balta on your bench.
Drew should be serviceable until Wines gets back, then he is going to have a change in role stepping into the guts. Parker will play, but small forwards will put up an occasional 90 followed by a bunch of 30-40 scores. Balta I have doubts on his job security or if he lines up R1.
Would Burgess be an alternative to Balta with better JS?
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 10, 2019, 09:10:32 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 10, 2019, 07:56:37 PM
If you're starting Toby Greene keep an eye on Lincoln McCarthy. He is that awkward mid 200's price but he has had a couple of solid JLT games and may be the guy you have to downgrade to if Greene turns pear shaped. I think the best bet for forward rookies is Setters/Drew at F5/F6 with Parker/Balta on your bench.
Drew should be serviceable until Wines gets back, then he is going to have a change in role stepping into the guts. Parker will play, but small forwards will put up an occasional 90 followed by a bunch of 30-40 scores. Balta I have doubts on his job security or if he lines up R1.
Would Burgess be an alternative to Balta with better JS?
Burgess had a shocker today, but the only thing keeping him in my side is that GC has a pretty soft draw to start with, and if he can kick a goal or two, clunk a few marks and score 60ish then that will do
D8 for mine
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:21:03 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 10, 2019, 09:10:32 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 10, 2019, 07:56:37 PM
If you're starting Toby Greene keep an eye on Lincoln McCarthy. He is that awkward mid 200's price but he has had a couple of solid JLT games and may be the guy you have to downgrade to if Greene turns pear shaped. I think the best bet for forward rookies is Setters/Drew at F5/F6 with Parker/Balta on your bench.
Drew should be serviceable until Wines gets back, then he is going to have a change in role stepping into the guts. Parker will play, but small forwards will put up an occasional 90 followed by a bunch of 30-40 scores. Balta I have doubts on his job security or if he lines up R1.
Would Burgess be an alternative to Balta with better JS?
Burgess had a shocker today, but the only thing keeping him in my side is that GC has a pretty soft draw to start with, and if he can kick a goal or two, clunk a few marks and score 60ish then that will do
D8 for mine
Burgess is a key position player for Gold Coast, he's gonna be prone to some ordinary scores but he's gonna have the JS. Beggars can't be choosers, so slap on him on either your def or fwd bench and hope for the best in terms of scores and cash generation.
Quote from: Nige on March 10, 2019, 09:24:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:21:03 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 10, 2019, 09:10:32 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 10, 2019, 07:56:37 PM
If you're starting Toby Greene keep an eye on Lincoln McCarthy. He is that awkward mid 200's price but he has had a couple of solid JLT games and may be the guy you have to downgrade to if Greene turns pear shaped. I think the best bet for forward rookies is Setters/Drew at F5/F6 with Parker/Balta on your bench.
Drew should be serviceable until Wines gets back, then he is going to have a change in role stepping into the guts. Parker will play, but small forwards will put up an occasional 90 followed by a bunch of 30-40 scores. Balta I have doubts on his job security or if he lines up R1.
Would Burgess be an alternative to Balta with better JS?
Burgess had a shocker today, but the only thing keeping him in my side is that GC has a pretty soft draw to start with, and if he can kick a goal or two, clunk a few marks and score 60ish then that will do
D8 for mine
Burgess is a key position player for Gold Coast, he's gonna be prone to some ordinary scores but he's gonna have the JS. Beggars can't be choosers, so slap on him on either your def or fwd bench and hope for the best in terms of scores and cash generation.
You reckon he has good job security? I'm not entirely convinced.
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2019, 09:26:54 PM
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:21:03 PM
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Quote from: Mat0369 on March 10, 2019, 07:56:37 PM
If you're starting Toby Greene keep an eye on Lincoln McCarthy. He is that awkward mid 200's price but he has had a couple of solid JLT games and may be the guy you have to downgrade to if Greene turns pear shaped. I think the best bet for forward rookies is Setters/Drew at F5/F6 with Parker/Balta on your bench.
Drew should be serviceable until Wines gets back, then he is going to have a change in role stepping into the guts. Parker will play, but small forwards will put up an occasional 90 followed by a bunch of 30-40 scores. Balta I have doubts on his job security or if he lines up R1.
Would Burgess be an alternative to Balta with better JS?
Burgess had a shocker today, but the only thing keeping him in my side is that GC has a pretty soft draw to start with, and if he can kick a goal or two, clunk a few marks and score 60ish then that will do
D8 for mine
Burgess is a key position player for Gold Coast, he's gonna be prone to some ordinary scores but he's gonna have the JS. Beggars can't be choosers, so slap on him on either your def or fwd bench and hope for the best in terms of scores and cash generation.
You reckon he has good job security? I'm not entirely convinced.
That's the issue
I'm sure he lines up Round 1 in the forward line, but as soon as Corbett is fit - that's when it's anyone's guess and he could be dropped
If he does get dropped though, his DPP will be very handy to allow us trading a def for fwd or fwd for def, so that might be enough to roll the dice and start him D8/F8
The Ferrari is a lock. Decent forward rookie.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:30:49 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2019, 09:26:54 PM
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:21:03 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 10, 2019, 09:10:32 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 10, 2019, 07:56:37 PM
If you're starting Toby Greene keep an eye on Lincoln McCarthy. He is that awkward mid 200's price but he has had a couple of solid JLT games and may be the guy you have to downgrade to if Greene turns pear shaped. I think the best bet for forward rookies is Setters/Drew at F5/F6 with Parker/Balta on your bench.
Drew should be serviceable until Wines gets back, then he is going to have a change in role stepping into the guts. Parker will play, but small forwards will put up an occasional 90 followed by a bunch of 30-40 scores. Balta I have doubts on his job security or if he lines up R1.
Would Burgess be an alternative to Balta with better JS?
Burgess had a shocker today, but the only thing keeping him in my side is that GC has a pretty soft draw to start with, and if he can kick a goal or two, clunk a few marks and score 60ish then that will do
D8 for mine
Burgess is a key position player for Gold Coast, he's gonna be prone to some ordinary scores but he's gonna have the JS. Beggars can't be choosers, so slap on him on either your def or fwd bench and hope for the best in terms of scores and cash generation.
You reckon he has good job security? I'm not entirely convinced.
That's the issue
I'm sure he lines up Round 1 in the forward line, but as soon as Corbett is fit - that's when it's anyone's guess and he could be dropped
If he does get dropped though, his DPP will be very handy to allow us trading a def for fwd or fwd for def, so that might be enough to roll the dice and start him D8/F8
He can play as a defender too, but they chosen to play him forward because of no Corbett. Corbett comes in, Burgess goes back.
Quote from: eaglesman on March 10, 2019, 09:32:56 PM
The Ferrari is a lock. Decent forward rookie.
Are you running 5 rookies or dropping one of Parker/Balta?
Quote from: Nige on March 10, 2019, 09:34:41 PM
He can play as a defender too, but they chosen to play him forward because of no Corbett. Corbett comes in, Burgess goes back.
Yeah I know he plays both ends, but can we just assume he holds his spot and just goes down back?
Fact of the matter is, we're probably going to have to pick a couple of dodgy rookies, so he can sit at D8 for me
What are people doing with their mid rookies?
I'm going with a bench of one of Scott/Bewley for M9, Atkins M10 and Gibbons M11
Constable M8
Walsh, Butters/Hately are probaby the only other mid rookies I might consider
Just not sure any of the others are worth picking. Hind has been real poor so he's out. Hayes nothing great either
Anyone else?
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 10, 2019, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 10, 2019, 09:32:56 PM
The Ferrari is a lock. Decent forward rookie.
Are you running 5 rookies or dropping one of Parker/Balta?
Not asking me, but I'm going to YOLO and run all Setters, Drew, Balta, Petrucelle, Parker
I'm sure I'm going to cop a shower score here and there, but I just hate the impact it makes on my overall side when I move Greene from F3 to F4, so I am going to try and keep him at F3 and run all 5 rooks
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 10, 2019, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 10, 2019, 09:32:56 PM
The Ferrari is a lock. Decent forward rookie.
Are you running 5 rookies or dropping one of Parker/Balta?
Still up in the air mate. Round 1 we will definitely have 5/6 rookies to pick from but it’s round 3/4 we need to worry about with so many returning players.
Whilst I just made statement Ferrari is a lock I did forget bout Cripps return as well.
At this stage I can see myself going an extra forward prem.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:44:41 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 10, 2019, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 10, 2019, 09:32:56 PM
The Ferrari is a lock. Decent forward rookie.
Are you running 5 rookies or dropping one of Parker/Balta?
Not asking me, but I'm going to YOLO and run all Setters, Drew, Balta, Petrucelle, Parker
I'm sure I'm going to cop a shower score here and there, but I just hate the impact it makes on my overall side when I move Greene from F3 to F4, so I am going to try and keep him at F3 and run all 5 rooks
If ya wanna win this i think is the play. But could definitely come back to bite ya. The more I look into drew and balta the greater concerns I have for round3/4
DEF: Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke, Duursma, Burgess, Hore
MID: Walsh, Butters, Hately/Caldwell, Constable, Scott, Bewley, Atkins, Gibbons
FWD: Setters, Drew, Balta, Petrucelle, Parker
I think that's it for me - they're the only rookies I am considering now. I reckon the rest have shown they won't be good enough
Quote from: eaglesman on March 10, 2019, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:44:41 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 10, 2019, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 10, 2019, 09:32:56 PM
The Ferrari is a lock. Decent forward rookie.
Are you running 5 rookies or dropping one of Parker/Balta?
Not asking me, but I'm going to YOLO and run all Setters, Drew, Balta, Petrucelle, Parker
I'm sure I'm going to cop a shower score here and there, but I just hate the impact it makes on my overall side when I move Greene from F3 to F4, so I am going to try and keep him at F3 and run all 5 rooks
If ya wanna win this i think is the play. But could definitely come back to bite ya. The more I look into drew and balta the greater concerns I have for round3/4
Good point actually - Rounds 3/4 could certainly be dodgy for us with those guys
There just isn't enough good rookies on all lines to allow us to go deep on all lines. I think we're going to be exposed somewhere. I might try and push Greene to F4, you raise a good point. All 5 could end up with a bench of donuts 3-4 weeks in
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 10, 2019, 09:10:32 PM
Would Burgess be an alternative to Balta with better JS?
I'd probably be looking at him for D8 if I do. Personally a KPF in the GC team sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:48:49 PM
DEF: Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke, Duursma, Burgess, Hore
MID: Walsh, Butters, Hately/Caldwell, Constable, Scott, Bewley, Atkins, Gibbons
FWD: Setters, Drew, Balta, Petrucelle, Parker
I think that's it for me - they're the only rookies I am considering now. I reckon the rest have shown they won't be good enough
Cousins is slightly more expensive than Walsh (12k to be exact) and I am counting Ridley as an expensive defensive rookie.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:48:49 PM
DEF: Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke, Duursma, Burgess, Hore
MID: Walsh, Butters, Hately/Caldwell, Constable, Scott, Bewley, Atkins, Gibbons
FWD: Setters, Drew, Balta, Petrucelle, Parker
I think that's it for me - they're the only rookies I am considering now. I reckon the rest have shown they won't be good enough
No Brander?
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 10, 2019, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 10, 2019, 09:10:32 PM
Would Burgess be an alternative to Balta with better JS?
I'd probably be looking at him for D8 if I do. Personally a KPF in the GC team sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:48:49 PM
DEF: Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke, Duursma, Burgess, Hore
MID: Walsh, Butters, Hately/Caldwell, Constable, Scott, Bewley, Atkins, Gibbons
FWD: Setters, Drew, Balta, Petrucelle, Parker
I think that's it for me - they're the only rookies I am considering now. I reckon the rest have shown they won't be good enough
Cousins is slightly more expensive than Walsh (12k to be exact) and I am counting Ridley as an expensive defensive rookie.
May as well include LDU while we're at it.
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2019, 09:53:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:48:49 PM
DEF: Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke, Duursma, Burgess, Hore
MID: Walsh, Butters, Hately/Caldwell, Constable, Scott, Bewley, Atkins, Gibbons
FWD: Setters, Drew, Balta, Petrucelle, Parker
I think that's it for me - they're the only rookies I am considering now. I reckon the rest have shown they won't be good enough
No Brander?
I think Petrucelle is probably ahead. Allen too, but he's 230k+ so not an option
JJK should be right too, so I don't think Brander starts, and if he does he'd have to have shaky JS
Quote from: batt on March 10, 2019, 09:54:38 PM
May as well include LDU while we're at it.
Some might look to start him, but he's a big no for me
Rookies as a whole are very underwhelming this year. Basically every line everyone will be forced to pick the same ones. There is very little to chose from.
Midfield if you want 6 rookies you basically have to go Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins and Gibbons... Bewley and Hind arent anything they lived up to be and idk if they even will play. So those 6 will be in all teams unless you opt for 5 then you'll probably just drop Butters or Gibbbons depending if you need cash or not.
Up fwd its Setter, Balta, Drew and Parker if you want 4, want to make that 5 its gotta be Petrrucelle.
Down back probably has the most chances for differences but thats because they all seem to either suck at scoring or have terrible JS. Even then its proabbly only one difference most will have.
I get theres always a few surprises that pop up in R1 teams but this is shocking atm. All will be rocking the same ones at this rate.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 09:42:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 10, 2019, 09:34:41 PM
He can play as a defender too, but they chosen to play him forward because of no Corbett. Corbett comes in, Burgess goes back.
Yeah I know he plays both ends, but can we just assume he holds his spot and just goes down back?
Fact of the matter is, we're probably going to have to pick a couple of dodgy rookies, so he can sit at D8 for me
What are people doing with their mid rookies?
I'm going with a bench of one of Scott/Bewley for M9, Atkins M10 and Gibbons M11
Constable M8
Walsh, Butters/Hately are probaby the only other mid rookies I might consider
Just not sure any of the others are worth picking. Hind has been real poor so he's out. Hayes nothing great either
Anyone else?
Currently sitting with:
Walsh; Butters; Atkins (Hately; Constable; Scott)
I can downgrade Hately - Gibbons to free up some cash if required, but would prefer to have Walsh + a choice of the above 5 for my two remaining on-field spots.
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 10, 2019, 10:15:11 PM
Rookies as a whole are very underwhelming this year. Basically every line everyone will be forced to pick the same ones. There is very little to chose from.
Midfield if you want 6 rookies you basically have to go Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins and Gibbons... Bewley and Hind arent anything they lived up to be and idk if they even will play. So those 6 will be in all teams unless you opt for 5 then you'll probably just drop Butters or Gibbbons depending if you need cash or not.
Up fwd its Setter, Balta, Drew and Parker if you want 4, want to make that 5 its gotta be Petrrucelle.
Down back probably has the most chances for differences but thats because they all seem to either suck at scoring or have terrible JS. Even then its proabbly only one difference most will have.
I get theres always a few surprises that pop up in R1 teams but this is shocking atm. All will be rocking the same ones at this rate.
Running with 5 of your 6 mids: personally I've found the money to go Hately over Gibbons. I'm a Blues fan and and I see Gibbons being another Garlett. Hately just a little more ceiling.
Up in the Forwards I'm running with Setters, Drew, Parker, Burgess.
Down back it's only the three: Scrimshaw; Clark; Duursma (I have Roberton at D5)
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 10, 2019, 10:15:11 PM
Rookies as a whole are very underwhelming this year. Basically every line everyone will be forced to pick the same ones. There is very little to chose from.
Midfield if you want 6 rookies you basically have to go Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins and Gibbons... Bewley and Hind arent anything they lived up to be and idk if they even will play. So those 6 will be in all teams unless you opt for 5 then you'll probably just drop Butters or Gibbbons depending if you need cash or not.
Up fwd its Setter, Balta, Drew and Parker if you want 4, want to make that 5 its gotta be Petrrucelle.
Down back probably has the most chances for differences but thats because they all seem to either suck at scoring or have terrible JS. Even then its proabbly only one difference most will have.
I get theres always a few surprises that pop up in R1 teams but this is shocking atm. All will be rocking the same ones at this rate.
I agree and disagree with parts of this post.
Midfield the clear picks are Walsh butters and gibbons due to their job security. Constable and Atkins could very much be fighting for same spot and ifnone is picked fouldeasilt be dropped for the other after a bad game. Not even convinced one will
Make it. Scott was decent the other day but have extreme doubts about him being picked and then holding spot.
Up forwArd It is setters and then I would rate petrucelle as the next pick in terms of job security. The returns of wines and lynch/caddy have me worried about the other 2 and Parker is just a pulse.
Down back I think Collins is a must purely because his spot is safe as houses. I’ll be surprised if burgess doesn’t play but he’s just a pulse. I reckon scrimmers edges Clark.
I can easily see ya having to do deeper across more lines than first anticipated. Right now I have 5 power mids and crouch but I must admit I’m strongly looking at Taranto formpne of those boys currently.
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I really don’t see why people are going for hateley. I have no idea how he scored but if ya watched his games there have been enough passages of play for me to think he is a player not up with the speed of the afl right now. Saying that, will be handy if he gets picked
Do you think we could run with 5 rookies down back, with Collins anchoring D4?
X, X, X, Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke (Duursma, Hore) and that still leaves Burgess up our sleeve just in case one of those 5 don't make it?
Quote from: eaglesman on March 10, 2019, 10:32:20 PM
I agree and disagree with parts of this post.
Midfield the clear picks are Walsh butters and gibbons due to their job security. Constable and Atkins could very much be fighting for same spot and ifnone is picked fouldeasilt be dropped for the other after a bad game. Not even convinced one will
Make it. Scott was decent the other day but have extreme doubts about him being picked and then holding spot.
Up forwArd It is setters and then I would rate petrucelle as the next pick in terms of job security. The returns of wines and lynch/caddy have me worried about the other 2 and Parker is just a pulse.
Down back I think Collins is a must purely because his spot is safe as houses. I’ll be surprised if burgess doesn’t play but he’s just a pulse. I reckon scrimmers edges Clark.
I can easily see ya having to do deeper across more lines than first anticipated. Right now I have 5 power mids and crouch but I must admit I’m strongly looking at Taranto formpne of those boys currently.
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I really don’t see why people are going for hateley. I have no idea how he scored but if ya watched his games there have been enough passages of play for me to think he is a player not up with the speed of the afl right now. Saying that, will be handy if he gets picked
Constable was playing pure mid, whilst Atkins was playing Half Forward, so I'm not sure they are fighting for the same spot - I think they can both play in the same side - hope they can
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 10:36:42 PM
Do you think we could run with 5 rookies down back, with Collins anchoring D4?
X, X, X, Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke (Duursma, Hore) and that still leaves Burgess up our sleeve just in case one of those 5 don't make it?
Heck, I've had Scrimshaw at D4 for a while now.
Think I'm a good chance of staying with 3 on field come round 1.
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Quote from: eaglesman on March 10, 2019, 10:32:20 PM
I agree and disagree with parts of this post.
Midfield the clear picks are Walsh butters and gibbons due to their job security. Constable and Atkins could very much be fighting for same spot and ifnone is picked fouldeasilt be dropped for the other after a bad game. Not even convinced one will
Make it. Scott was decent the other day but have extreme doubts about him being picked and then holding spot.
Up forwArd It is setters and then I would rate petrucelle as the next pick in terms of job security. The returns of wines and lynch/caddy have me worried about the other 2 and Parker is just a pulse.
Down back I think Collins is a must purely because his spot is safe as houses. I’ll be surprised if burgess doesn’t play but he’s just a pulse. I reckon scrimmers edges Clark.
I can easily see ya having to do deeper across more lines than first anticipated. Right now I have 5 power mids and crouch but I must admit I’m strongly looking at Taranto formpne of those boys currently.
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I really don’t see why people are going for hateley. I have no idea how he scored but if ya watched his games there have been enough passages of play for me to think he is a player not up with the speed of the afl right now. Saying that, will be handy if he gets picked
Constable was playing pure mid, whilst Atkins was playing Half Forward, so I'm not sure they are fighting for the same spot - I think they can both play in the same side - hope they can
I understand that. But I think when the cats play all their midfield guns in their normal positions he won’t be as pure mid as what we would like. I think if we do a Geelong best 22 team it will tell a tale.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 10:36:42 PM
Do you think we could run with 5 rookies down back, with Collins anchoring D4?
X, X, X, Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke (Duursma, Hore) and that still leaves Burgess up our sleeve just in case one of those 5 don't make it?
I still have my doubts regards the selection in the round 1 team of both Clark Duursma and hore. If they get named it solves a lot of problems. Then we can shove burgess forward for a swing as well
Quote from: eaglesman on March 10, 2019, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 10:36:42 PM
Do you think we could run with 5 rookies down back, with Collins anchoring D4?
X, X, X, Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke (Duursma, Hore) and that still leaves Burgess up our sleeve just in case one of those 5 don't make it?
I still have my doubts regards the selection in the round 1 team of both Clark Duursma and hore. If they get named it solves a lot of problems. Then we can shove burgess forward for a swing as well
That's why I have had just 4 def rookies (2 on field 2 on bench) because it gives me some fallback options just in case 1 or 2 don't actually get named
Might stick with that for now
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 10:52:37 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 10, 2019, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 10:36:42 PM
Do you think we could run with 5 rookies down back, with Collins anchoring D4?
X, X, X, Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke (Duursma, Hore) and that still leaves Burgess up our sleeve just in case one of those 5 don't make it?
I still have my doubts regards the selection in the round 1 team of both Clark Duursma and hore. If they get named it solves a lot of problems. Then we can shove burgess forward for a swing as well
That's why I have had just 4 def rookies (2 on field 2 on bench) because it gives me some fallback options just in case 1 or 2 don't actually get named
Might stick with that for now
I feel like we need to drop a mid prem and field a rookie so we can bolster other lines but we just don’t have that mid rookie.
Can’t possibly see how anyone can be rolling with defensive premiums this year.
Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark (Duursma, Hore) - Burgess if one goes down but jeesh no chance I'm picking any GC rookie if I don't have to.
Walsh, Constable (Butters, Scott, Gibbons) - Atkins a real possibility but 46DT for 80sc ain't gonna happen regularly. Bewley and Giants boys don't think good enough.
Setterfield, Drew (Balta, Parker) Don't like any other forward rookie. Petrol Jelly looked good but JS is an issue as already stated.
IMO that's the best of the rooks.
Quote from: _wato on March 10, 2019, 11:01:00 PM
Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark (Duursma, Hore) - Burgess if one goes down but jeesh no chance I'm picking any GC rookie if I don't have to.
Walsh, Constable (Butters, Scott, Gibbons) - Atkins a real possibility but 46DT for 80sc ain't gonna happen regularly. Bewley and Giants boys don't think good enough.
Setterfield, Drew (Balta, Parker) Don't like any other forward rookie. Petrol Jelly looked good but JS is an issue as already stated.
IMO that's the best of the rooks.
Petruccelle has been great all summer, and with LeCras retired, plus Cripps injured - he actually has pretty good JS for a rookie I would think.
That said, I really don't love the look of 3 forward rookies on field
Looks like we might need to grab some mid pricers just to make the cash stretch across all lines :-[
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 11:09:57 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 10, 2019, 11:01:00 PM
Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark (Duursma, Hore) - Burgess if one goes down but jeesh no chance I'm picking any GC rookie if I don't have to.
Walsh, Constable (Butters, Scott, Gibbons) - Atkins a real possibility but 46DT for 80sc ain't gonna happen regularly. Bewley and Giants boys don't think good enough.
Setterfield, Drew (Balta, Parker) Don't like any other forward rookie. Petrol Jelly looked good but JS is an issue as already stated.
IMO that's the best of the rooks.
Petruccelle has been great all summer, and with LeCras retired, plus Cripps injured - he actually has pretty good JS for a rookie I would think.
That said, I really don't love the look of 3 forward rookies on field
Looks like we might need to grab some mid pricers just to make the cash stretch across all lines :-[
Agree with all this. Cripps coming back the latest round 3/4 scare you. I actually think he may have jumped venables.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 11:09:57 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 10, 2019, 11:01:00 PM
Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark (Duursma, Hore) - Burgess if one goes down but jeesh no chance I'm picking any GC rookie if I don't have to.
Walsh, Constable (Butters, Scott, Gibbons) - Atkins a real possibility but 46DT for 80sc ain't gonna happen regularly. Bewley and Giants boys don't think good enough.
Setterfield, Drew (Balta, Parker) Don't like any other forward rookie. Petrol Jelly looked good but JS is an issue as already stated.
IMO that's the best of the rooks.
Petruccelle has been great all summer, and with LeCras retired, plus Cripps injured - he actually has pretty good JS for a rookie I would think.
That said, I really don't love the look of 3 forward rookies on field
Looks like we might need to grab some mid pricers just to make the cash stretch across all lines :-[
Petrucelle had 11 contested possessions today, that gives me huge confidence to go with 5 rookies in the forward line. Parker also took a screamer in the pocket so I think the Saints persist. Bugger it, I'm rolling the dice. Have read all the gossip on Roberton & it may not be as bad as reported, will wait on a full diagnosis, but if OK then I'm going deep in the mids & light in the forward line.
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2019, 11:18:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 11:09:57 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 10, 2019, 11:01:00 PM
Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark (Duursma, Hore) - Burgess if one goes down but jeesh no chance I'm picking any GC rookie if I don't have to.
Walsh, Constable (Butters, Scott, Gibbons) - Atkins a real possibility but 46DT for 80sc ain't gonna happen regularly. Bewley and Giants boys don't think good enough.
Setterfield, Drew (Balta, Parker) Don't like any other forward rookie. Petrol Jelly looked good but JS is an issue as already stated.
IMO that's the best of the rooks.
Petruccelle has been great all summer, and with LeCras retired, plus Cripps injured - he actually has pretty good JS for a rookie I would think.
That said, I really don't love the look of 3 forward rookies on field
Looks like we might need to grab some mid pricers just to make the cash stretch across all lines :-[
Petrucelle had 11 contested possessions today, that gives me huge confidence to go with 5 rookies in the forward line. Parker also took a screamer in the pocket so I think the Saints persist. Bugger it, I'm rolling the dice. Have read all the gossip on Roberton & it may not be as bad as reported, will wait on a full diagnosis, but if OK then I'm going deep in the mids & light in the forward line.
And Parker appears to have very good JS, and that's super important. He might put up 50 most weeks, but if he can put up the odd 70+ he will make cash whilst having good JS
Drew and Balta are the worries, for reasons eaglesman mentioned earlier, but I cannot for the life of me pick a F3 with confidence so I think I will stick with Greene F3 and 5 rookies. Any way I slice it, I'm going to have a dodgy def or fwd line
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 11:23:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2019, 11:18:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2019, 11:09:57 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 10, 2019, 11:01:00 PM
Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark (Duursma, Hore) - Burgess if one goes down but jeesh no chance I'm picking any GC rookie if I don't have to.
Walsh, Constable (Butters, Scott, Gibbons) - Atkins a real possibility but 46DT for 80sc ain't gonna happen regularly. Bewley and Giants boys don't think good enough.
Setterfield, Drew (Balta, Parker) Don't like any other forward rookie. Petrol Jelly looked good but JS is an issue as already stated.
IMO that's the best of the rooks.
Petruccelle has been great all summer, and with LeCras retired, plus Cripps injured - he actually has pretty good JS for a rookie I would think.
That said, I really don't love the look of 3 forward rookies on field
Looks like we might need to grab some mid pricers just to make the cash stretch across all lines :-[
Petrucelle had 11 contested possessions today, that gives me huge confidence to go with 5 rookies in the forward line. Parker also took a screamer in the pocket so I think the Saints persist. Bugger it, I'm rolling the dice. Have read all the gossip on Roberton & it may not be as bad as reported, will wait on a full diagnosis, but if OK then I'm going deep in the mids & light in the forward line.
And Parker appears to have very good JS, and that's super important. He might put up 50 most weeks, but if he can put up the odd 70+ he will make cash whilst having good JS
Drew and Balta are the worries, for reasons eaglesman mentioned earlier, but I cannot for the life of me pick a F3 with confidence so I think I will stick with Greene F3 and 5 rookies. Any way I slice it, I'm going to have a dodgy def or fwd line
It's really the same story with rookies every year, unless you're the number 1 pick then it's a week to week proposition. I actually don't think the forward line is as bad as it appears on paper, the scoring potential of Drew & Balta is excellent, it just becomes a question of stringing a few strong games together. Balta has been sharing the ruck with Soldo too, I expect him to get plenty more time in there when Soldo gets demoted. Aside from that he averaged 77 in the two JLT games which is all you can ask for.
Drew is actually a bit of a beast and is highly rated internally. You dont get signed on for two years mid long term injury before you've even debuted for nothing either. I dont think his JS is as shaky as you all make it out to be. Plenty are chances to go before him one would imagine. I'm running the 5 fwd rookies atm and i'm more worried about Balta and Pettrucelle tbh.
Hinkley said in a presser that it's likely 5 or 6 guys will be making their debut for PA Round 1.
Lycett, Burton, Rozee, Duursma, Drew, Butters the likely contenders. IMO think they all play.
Re Petroleum still not sold on him. West Coast just won the flag, competition for spots everywhere. I'd love another Venables pick averaging 47 lol
currently for me
Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw, Duur
Wash, Butters, Drew Cunstable, Scott, Gibbons
Fort
Setters, Petruccelle, Balta, Parker
and im happy with it
Thoughts on passing up Collins? Going to play more lockdown I feel, would rather go scrimshaw and use the 40k elsewhere
Quote from: IntegralX on March 11, 2019, 10:09:15 AM
Thoughts on passing up Collins? Going to play more lockdown I feel, would rather go scrimshaw and use the 40k elsewhere
I have atm. Just have to wait for teams now.
Quote from: IntegralX on March 11, 2019, 10:09:15 AM
Thoughts on passing up Collins? Going to play more lockdown I feel, would rather go scrimshaw and use the 40k elsewhere
Yep I have for now. Rolling with Clarke, Scrimshaw and Duursma on field. That may change with team selections though!
Quote from: IntegralX on March 11, 2019, 10:09:15 AM
Thoughts on passing up Collins? Going to play more lockdown I feel, would rather go scrimshaw and use the 40k elsewhere
Also passing, think he will still make in the 100-150k range but so will Scrim/Clark/Durr/Hore if they get a run
Petrucelle pulled an 87 :o if only he saved that for the H&A, feel like that could be his highest score but it definitely gives me a little more confidence in picking him.
Quote from: jfitty on March 11, 2019, 10:49:50 AM
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Thoughts on passing up Collins? Going to play more lockdown I feel, would rather go scrimshaw and use the 40k elsewhere
Yep I have for now. Rolling with Clarke, Scrimshaw and Duursma on field. That may change with team selections though!
I'm passing on Collins too, but i cant for the life of me understand why so many want Clark, he is going to be a huge trap. Will be lucky to play R1 and even then will get canned right after. No Touhy or Bews in that JLT and he plays exactly like a discount Henry atm.
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Thoughts on passing up Collins? Going to play more lockdown I feel, would rather go scrimshaw and use the 40k elsewhere
Yep I have for now. Rolling with Clarke, Scrimshaw and Duursma on field. That may change with team selections though!
I'm passing on Collins too, but i cant for the life of me understand why so many want Clark, he is going to be a huge trap. Will be lucky to play R1 and even then will get canned right after. No Touhy or Bews in that JLT and he plays exactly like a discount Henry atm.
He looked incredibly good in JLT 1 and showed some very good signs in JLT 2 as well.
I would put him ahead of Bews and Henry but I might be biased.
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Thoughts on passing up Collins? Going to play more lockdown I feel, would rather go scrimshaw and use the 40k elsewhere
Yep I have for now. Rolling with Clarke, Scrimshaw and Duursma on field. That may change with team selections though!
I'm passing on Collins too, but i cant for the life of me understand why so many want Clark, he is going to be a huge trap. Will be lucky to play R1 and even then will get canned right after. No Touhy or Bews in that JLT and he plays exactly like a discount Henry atm.
He looked incredibly good in JLT 1 and showed some very good signs in JLT 2 as well.
I would put him ahead of Bews and Henry but I might be biased.
I'd put Relton Roberts ahead of Bews. Boggles my mind how Jed Bews is still an AFL footballer
Collins might be a bit of a slow burn, but his JS should be rock solid, so he does give me confidence of being reliable in that regard
He is definitely not better than Henry, Henry is a jet. Bews adds a real solid defensive ability that the cats clearly love. Played all last year over more attacking options. Even if Bews doesnt come back Tuohy still does, and no one is leaving before Clark surely?
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 11, 2019, 10:59:01 AM
I'm passing on Collins too, but i cant for the life of me understand why so many want Clark, he is going to be a huge trap. Will be lucky to play R1 and even then will get canned right after. No Touhy or Bews in that JLT and he plays exactly like a discount Henry atm.
I'd keep Collins, because even if he's playing a more accountable role, he's still a good defender and will continue to take intercept marks and distribute it after that. Plus his JS is the best of all the def rookies on offer.
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 11, 2019, 11:51:49 AM
He is definitely not better than Henry, Henry is a jet. Bews adds a real solid defensive ability that the cats clearly love. Played all last year over more attacking options. Even if Bews doesnt come back Tuohy still does, and no one is leaving before Clark surely?
Exactly right. I mean, like any other rookie, if he plays well then of course he'll keep his spot and they'll find someone else to drop, but he's still the most likely person to make way for Tuohy.
I wouldn't wanna pay up for him to be dropped after 2 games when Tuohy returns and keep praying every week that he's listed as an in for the next price rise.
Just had a quick look at the FS best 22 for the Cats. They have the following
B: J. Kolodjashnij, L. Henderson, T. Stewart
HB: J. Bews, M. Blicavs, Z. Tuohy
C: G. Ablett, J. Selwood, M. Duncan
HF: S. Menegola, E. Ratugolea, B. Parfitt
F: L. Dahlhaus, T. Hawkins, J. Henry
FOL: R. Stanley, P. Dangerfield, T. Kelly
I/C: Q. Narkle, S. Selwood, N. Cockatoo, G. Rohan
So looking at their line up they have Henry up forward, no Harry Taylor, Bews and Tuohy as the HB's. They can't play all of Henry, Taylor, Blicavs, Jake Kolo, Hendo and Tom Stewart down back, that's way too tall.
One of the taller guys could play up forward and one will have to miss. O'Connor and Clark would have been the two smaller HB's that are replacing Tuohy and Bews in the line up. Bews is one of the worst footballers I have ever seen play so the spot is up for grabs between Clark and O'Conner.
Yep ^ especially playing Pies Round 1.
Think the pies will line up
Varcoe, JDG, Stephenson
JT, Cox, Elliott
Assuming WHE and Wells aren't available and probably Mihocek gets a gig off the bench.
Absolute headaches if the Cats go tall. Clark will play Rd 1, upto him to keep his spot. I also agree it'll come down to him and O'Connor for a spot moving forward.
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Thoughts on passing up Collins? Going to play more lockdown I feel, would rather go scrimshaw and use the 40k elsewhere
Yep I have for now. Rolling with Clarke, Scrimshaw and Duursma on field. That may change with team selections though!
I'm passing on Collins too, but i cant for the life of me understand why so many want Clark, he is going to be a huge trap. Will be lucky to play R1 and even then will get canned right after. No Touhy or Bews in that JLT and he plays exactly like a discount Henry atm.
Clark has more credits than people care to acknowledge, first thing is his elite kicking, best kick in the draft by country mile. When I stack him against Ed Richards I'd say he's a better prospect because his contested work is more evolved. Aside from that I doubt the big stage will phase him, took a hat trick playing for Australia u/19 against Pakistan, fully pro sportsman. And agree with Raisy, Bews is VFL quality, has no dash & no daring.
Hinkley confirmed that Drew, Butters, Rozee and Duursma and debuting Round 1.
Quote from: Nige on March 11, 2019, 01:01:00 PM
Hinkley confirmed that Drew, Butters, Rozee and Duursma and debuting Round 1.
Excellent.
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Hinkley confirmed that Drew, Butters, Rozee and Duursma and debuting Round 1.
Excellent.
Idk if i want ZButters yet or not. So expensive running him and Walsh
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Hinkley confirmed that Drew, Butters, Rozee and Duursma and debuting Round 1.
Excellent.
Idk if i want ZButters yet or not. So expensive running him and Walsh
Too expensive for me, don't have either, but bear in mind that Butters is very outside & very light so could have some off days. I'm not picking him myself.
Butters is absolute class. Gonna be a better SC scorer than DT player, gotta put that into perspective. Two different performances in both JLT's, one game with 25 possies the other with 14 and 3 goals. Both times 80+, shows he can do enough to always impact games.
Think he is good for 70. Happy to field him M8/9 v Constable plus Walsh.
Quote from: _wato on March 11, 2019, 01:16:36 PM
Butters is absolute class. Gonna be a better SC scorer than DT player, gotta put that into perspective.
Think he is good for 70. Happy to field him M8/9 v Constable plus Walsh.
He is class but he needs to be compared to the second & third year players on offer. JLT probably not the most accountable football, things will certainly tighten up. Don't think he's a bad pick but when Scott, Constable, Atkins & Gibbons are so cheap it's tough to make a case.
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Quote from: _wato on March 11, 2019, 01:16:36 PM
Butters is absolute class. Gonna be a better SC scorer than DT player, gotta put that into perspective.
Think he is good for 70. Happy to field him M8/9 v Constable plus Walsh.
He is class but he needs to be compared to the second & third year players on offer. JLT probably not the most accountable football, things will certainly tighten up. Don't think he's a bad pick but when Scott, Constable, Atkins & Gibbons are so cheap it's tough to make a case.
Is Constable a certainty? Think he had a pretty good preseason last year as well, but didn't make the cut in regular season. Where does he fit in to the cats line up? And low TOG, does he have tank issues?
Quote from: Nige on March 11, 2019, 01:01:00 PM
Hinkley confirmed that Drew, Butters, Rozee and Duursma and debuting Round 1.
I've got Duursma and Drew locked in for now, but trying to find room for one of the others.
How are we feeling about Rozee? Trying to avoid rookies around the 200k mark other than Walsh.
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Quote from: _wato on March 11, 2019, 01:16:36 PM
Butters is absolute class. Gonna be a better SC scorer than DT player, gotta put that into perspective.
Think he is good for 70. Happy to field him M8/9 v Constable plus Walsh.
He is class but he needs to be compared to the second & third year players on offer. JLT probably not the most accountable football, things will certainly tighten up. Don't think he's a bad pick but when Scott, Constable, Atkins & Gibbons are so cheap it's tough to make a case.
Is Constable a certainty? Think he had a pretty good preseason last year as well, but didn't make the cut in regular season. Where does he fit in to the cats line up? And low TOG, does he have tank issues?
He does have a tank issue but that certainly appears to have improved, think he'll be given a run with Gaz playing more forward.
With the confirmation of those 4 starting, I do feel better now going lighter up front with Greene F3, Setters F4 and Drew F5
Balta, Petrucelle, Parker filling out the line feels much more comfortable now knowing that I only need to field 1 of those 3 each week
Same goes down back with Duursma - I might pass on Collins just because I can now upgrade him to a prem, and leave Scrim and Duursma at D5/6 then have Clark/Burgess on bench
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2019, 02:05:46 PM
With the confirmation of those 4 starting, I do feel better now going lighter up front with Greene F3, Setters F4 and Drew F5
Balta, Petrucelle, Parker filling out the line feels much more comfortable now knowing that I only need to field 1 of those 3 each week
Same goes down back with Duursma - I might pass on Collins just because I can now upgrade him to a prem, and leave Scrim and Duursma at D5/6 then have Clark/Burgess on bench
Agreed! Drew at F5 looks pretty solid could average 70+ over the first few rounds and make good coin. Balta, Petrrucelle and Parker from F6-F8
I really need Walsh to bang out another easy 90 today. Cause atm im finding everyway to get rid of him.
I hate $200k rookies but Sam Walsh is something else
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 11, 2019, 02:38:49 PM
I really need Walsh to bang out another easy 90 today. Cause atm im finding everyway to get rid of him.
Banged out another 90
Quote from: Southstorm on March 11, 2019, 06:00:01 PM
I hate $200k rookies but Sam Walsh is something else
He's making it tough to leave him out but at the end of the day the stats suggest he'll average 75 in the season proper.
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2019, 01:06:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 11, 2019, 01:01:00 PM
Hinkley confirmed that Drew, Butters, Rozee and Duursma and debuting Round 1.
Excellent.
https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/jlt-community-series/2019/2/port-v-nmfc#
Whoever made the comment regards Clark l
Playing I agree very risky .. but then they say they not start Collins .... begs the question who the hell you have in defense.
Collins is my second picked player behind williams in defense and I don’t know how he is not in 100% of teams. Scores may be poor but will 100% play and won’t be dropped. Can’t say the same for any other rookie in defense
Collins is probably a D5-D7 type guy. Pending matchups you would decide if you field or bench him. It also depends how deep in defense you're batting.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 11, 2019, 07:39:37 PM
Collins is probably a D5-D7 type guy. Pending matchups you would decide if you field or bench him. It also depends how deep in defense you're batting.
Certainly not benching a 188k player. Has showed he can score well too
That said, he'll be a bit of a slow burn but that's a small price to pay for his JS and ability. Just means he might be one of the last rookies to upgrade
I'm tempted to start him D4
Just following on from that, I'm thinking
D4 Collins
D5 Scrimshaw
D6 Duursma
Clarke and Burgess on bench, but then I do this having Moore in my forward line so if need be I can swing him back via Burgess too. Gives me to confidence to go light down back having the extra DPP cover of Moore
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2019, 07:58:54 PM
Certainly not benching a 188k player. Has showed he can score well too
That said, he'll be a bit of a slow burn but that's a small price to pay for his JS and ability. Just means he might be one of the last rookies to upgrade
I'm tempted to start him D4
If they're playing Geelong I am sure as hell benching him in favour of Clark. Collins will get Hawkins and Clark is likely to score more in that match-up. This isn't Danger we're talking about, you have to field the right guys in the right situations.
I've dropped Roberton to Moore in the back line now. Currently rocking the 5 forward rookies in Setters, drew, Balta, Parker and Pet. Would you consider dropping one of them to Burgess just for the swing with Moore? If so who would you drop?
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 11, 2019, 08:21:06 PM
I've dropped Roberton to Moore in the back line now. Currently rocking the 5 forward rookies in Setters, drew, Balta, Parker and Pet. Would you consider dropping one of them to Burgess just for the swing with Moore? If so who would you drop?
This is what I'm currently considering. I would drop one of Parker/Fettuccine personally, but not sure on which yet. See what happens over the next week or so in regards to JS I guess.
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 11, 2019, 08:21:06 PM
I've dropped Roberton to Moore in the back line now. Currently rocking the 5 forward rookies in Setters, drew, Balta, Parker and Pet. Would you consider dropping one of them to Burgess just for the swing with Moore? If so who would you drop?
I've got Moore F4 with Burgess D8
Same shower overall, but I've dumped Parker as I rate the def rookies over him
I reckon Parker has way better JS than Balta. Balta has Lynch and Caddy coming back soon....
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 11, 2019, 08:36:22 PM
I reckon Parker has way better JS than Balta. Balta has Lynch and Caddy coming back soon....
Then drop him instead. The point is, play Moore forward and dump a fwd rookie, not def rookie, like you asked about
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2019, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 11, 2019, 08:36:22 PM
I reckon Parker has way better JS than Balta. Balta has Lynch and Caddy coming back soon....
Then drop him instead. The point is, play Moore forward and dump a fwd rookie, not def rookie, like you asked about
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I wouldn't do anything, just keep the option for when teams come out and one of them's not named.
Quote from: Nige on March 11, 2019, 01:01:00 PM
Hinkley confirmed that Drew, Butters, Rozee and Duursma and debuting Round 1.
Where was this? All I've seen was him saying that 5 or 6 of the new guys to the club will line up in round 1. That will be Lycett, Burton and two/three of Rozee, Butters and Duursma (admittedly could be Mayes instead but lets assume not).
Is there a link to him saying they'd all play round 1?, cause that would be a pretty big deal this far out from the game.
Quote from: duffercoat on March 11, 2019, 09:51:32 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 11, 2019, 01:01:00 PM
Hinkley confirmed that Drew, Butters, Rozee and Duursma and debuting Round 1.
Where was this? All I've seen was him saying that 5 or 6 of the new guys to the club will line up in round 1. That will be Lycett, Burton and two/three of Rozee, Butters and Duursma (admittedly could be Mayes instead but lets assume not).
Is there a link to him saying they'd all play round 1?, cause that would be a pretty big deal this far out from the game.
Nige has probably made a safe assumption, albeit not "official", except Butters
Hinkley is putting a “lock†on Butters for the season opener.
“I’d pick him,†Hinkley said. “We could have five, maybe six, first-time Port Adelaide players for Round 1 at the ‘G … and that will be exciting.â€
https://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/video/2019-03-09/hinkley-post-game-presser-jlt-2-ptv (https://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/video/2019-03-09/hinkley-post-game-presser-jlt-2-ptv)
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 11, 2019, 10:00:28 PM
https://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/video/2019-03-09/hinkley-post-game-presser-jlt-2-ptv (https://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/video/2019-03-09/hinkley-post-game-presser-jlt-2-ptv)
I'd be very careful making assumptions off this like Nige did. Hinkley didn't name Drew like he did Duursma, Rozee and Butters and he said we might have 5 or 6 newbies in round 1. That says one of the youngsters may well miss out yet as Lycett and Burton are a given.
For what it's worth, I saw it mentioned somewhere on Facebook, obviously not the best source though.
However, I later found an article that said:
QuoteHinkley could give three recent draftees their AFL starts â€" first-round calls Zak Butters, Connor Rozee and Xavier Duursma â€" at the MCG in the same way he did with current co-captain Ollie Wines and the now departed Jake Neade and Kane Mitchell in Round 1, 2013.
The Power has 2016 second-round draftee Willem Drew also primed for his AFL start after strong pre-season performances.
The Power also will give West Coast premiership ruckman Scott Lycett and Hawthorn recruit Ryan Burton their starts in Port Adelaide colours on Saturday week.
^ That just sounds like whoever wrote that's opinion
Hinkley hasn't confirmed anyone, except for Butters based off what he said
So what rookies are we thinking should be good to go Round 1 now? The time for place holders to actually be starters is near, so how many guys per line do we have?
DEF: Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma, Burgess, McKay
I think they're the 6 likely to play Round 1. Don't rate McKay at all for SC so he's not even an option for me. Burgess not great but DPP is handy so happy for him to be my D8 and I've spoken to a few Dee's supporters and they all think Hore isn't starting R1.
That leaves 5, and even Scrimshaw/Clark I'm not 100% start, just hopeful more than anything
MID: Walsh, Cousins, LDU, Butters, Hately/Caldwell, Constable, Hind, Scott, Atkins, Gibbons
I reckon Bewley and Hayes are doubtful and even if named not sure I'd start either of them. Hind doesn't look like a great scorer either but might need to be selected if some of the others don't actually get picked
Constable, 1 of Scott/Hind, Atkins and Gibbons could possibly be the only decent looking cheap mid rookies come Round 1
FWD: Setterfield, Drew, Balta, Parker and Petruccelle seem like the only 5 at this stage
I believe Petruccelle and Parker will both get a good run at it providing they don't completely shower the bed, but I still wouldn't want either of them on field
Setterfield and Drew look good for on field positions
Balta is the mystery man. Looks decent, but all of Lynch, Caddy and Grigg to return could see him pushed out of the 22 a few rounds in and that's exactly what we don't want to get caught with. I know Bully is keen on him, and Balta is flexible, but who else is going to make way for those guys?
Parker Petruccelle bench, with Setterfield Drew on field. I cannot figure out whether I need 4 prem forwards, or can I get away with 3 and rely on Balta?
That's my current thoughts on all likely rookies. Would love to get others thoughts on who they think we can comfortably place in our sides now, especially regarding def and fwd
Burgess definitely back into the equation now if we decide to downgrade Roberton to Moore
Is Blakey a chance for round 1? He's the only other one I'm considering in the forward line other than the ones mentioned
Quote from: jfitty on March 12, 2019, 09:33:15 AM
Is Blakey a chance for round 1? He's the only other one I'm considering in the forward line other than the ones mentioned
He's a chance - I just left him out because there's no chance I'm paying that much for him. Don't expect him to score well for that price
Quote from: jfitty on March 12, 2019, 09:33:15 AM
Is Blakey a chance for round 1? He's the only other one I'm considering in the forward line other than the ones mentioned
He'll play buy scoring will be low. Buddy should line up round one and all swans do is kick to him
For anyone considering Rankine he is unlikely for Rd 1 due to injury suffered in JLT.
im shaving burgess on bench over balta good dpp with moore
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 12, 2019, 01:33:21 PM
im shaving burgess on bench over balta good dpp with moore
bac sac and crac
Worth a look:
https://twitter.com/damion23/status/1105040709793439745?s=21
Quote from: js19 on March 12, 2019, 05:12:12 PM
Worth a look:
https://twitter.com/damion23/status/1105040709793439745?s=21
I have to disagree with Balta being a place holder for Lynch, he's effectively Richmond's second ruck, can't see anyone else being up for the job. Aside from that Lynch is firming for round 1.
Quote from: js19 on March 12, 2019, 05:12:12 PM
Worth a look:
https://twitter.com/damion23/status/1105040709793439745?s=21
He reckons there is 27 likely to debut Round 1, but I would argue several of them are not a good chance at all like he thinks they are. Point is, it's all just opinion at this stage and we'll find out next week :)
As for Balta, he might play Round 1, but the worry is Caddy/Grigg etc returning, and whether or not he makes way because regardless of his flexibility he'd have to be right near the front of the line in terms of who is first to make way
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2019, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: js19 on March 12, 2019, 05:12:12 PM
Worth a look:
https://twitter.com/damion23/status/1105040709793439745?s=21
He reckons there is 27 likely to debut Round 1, but I would argue several of them are not a good chance at all like he thinks they are. Point is, it's all just opinion at this stage and we'll find out next week :)
As for Balta, he might play Round 1, but the worry is Caddy/Grigg etc returning, and whether or not he makes way because regardless of his flexibility he'd have to be right near the front of the line in terms of who is first to make way
Poor form won't save him but I'm picking him because he has excellent scoring potential & there's the issue of the ruck. If he gets dropped then so be it, just have to go on gut instincts.
Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2019, 05:31:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2019, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: js19 on March 12, 2019, 05:12:12 PM
Worth a look:
https://twitter.com/damion23/status/1105040709793439745?s=21
He reckons there is 27 likely to debut Round 1, but I would argue several of them are not a good chance at all like he thinks they are. Point is, it's all just opinion at this stage and we'll find out next week :)
As for Balta, he might play Round 1, but the worry is Caddy/Grigg etc returning, and whether or not he makes way because regardless of his flexibility he'd have to be right near the front of the line in terms of who is first to make way
Poor form won't save him but I'm picking him because he has excellent scoring potential & there's the issue of the ruck. If he gets dropped then so be it, just have to go on gut instincts.
It's a call to make next week
For now, I have Petruccelle, Balta and Parker vying for my 2 bench spots - I think that makes sense - not going to rely on fielding any of them for various reasons (scoring for Pet and Parker, JS for Balta) so I'll just check out teams next week an dump 1 of those 3
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2019, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2019, 05:31:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2019, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: js19 on March 12, 2019, 05:12:12 PM
Worth a look:
https://twitter.com/damion23/status/1105040709793439745?s=21
He reckons there is 27 likely to debut Round 1, but I would argue several of them are not a good chance at all like he thinks they are. Point is, it's all just opinion at this stage and we'll find out next week :)
As for Balta, he might play Round 1, but the worry is Caddy/Grigg etc returning, and whether or not he makes way because regardless of his flexibility he'd have to be right near the front of the line in terms of who is first to make way
Poor form won't save him but I'm picking him because he has excellent scoring potential & there's the issue of the ruck. If he gets dropped then so be it, just have to go on gut instincts.
It's a call to make next week
For now, I have Petruccelle, Balta and Parker vying for my 2 bench spots - I think that makes sense - not going to rely on fielding any of them for various reasons (scoring for Pet and Parker, JS for Balta) so I'll just check out teams next week an dump 1 of those 3
Yeah, I don’t necessarily agree with all assessments, but the data there is a handy guide anyways
I’m in a similar boat!
Setterfield and Drew at F5 and F6 and Balta/Parker taking the bench positions. Petruccelle is my back up.
Round 1 draw may make the choice for me with Balta playing Thursday night and Petrucelle playing Saturday night and Parker playing Sunday.
If Thursday night comes around and Balta is confirmed playing can we take the chance on both the others being guaranteed playing?
I know the long term can be important but when round 1 hits us I’ll probably take the certainty.
Sydney Swans @sydneyswans
We will lodge paperwork with the AFL to secure South Adelaide forward Hayden McLean as a rookie for the 2019 AFL season.
102k fwd rookie. Hopefully a downgrade target later in the season - can't imagine him rolling into the 22 anytime soon
Suns: Lukosius, Burgess, Hombsch, Miles, Horlin-Smith, Murdoch and Collins will all debut.
So we have 3 expensive rookies confirmed in Collins, Burgess and Lukosius. First 2 will be in a lot of teams.
Quote from: Ringo on March 12, 2019, 06:55:04 PM
Suns: Lukosius, Burgess, Hombsch, Miles, Horlin-Smith, Murdoch and Collins will all debut.
So we have 3 expensive rookies confirmed in Collins, Burgess and Lukosius. First 2 will be in a lot of teams.
Not doubting you, but do you have a source? Don't want another assumption ala Nige and the Port rookies :P
Quote from: Ringo on March 12, 2019, 06:55:04 PM
Suns: Lukosius, Burgess, Hombsch, Miles, Horlin-Smith, Murdoch and Collins will all debut.
So we have 3 expensive rookies confirmed in Collins, Burgess and Lukosius. First 2 will be in a lot of teams.
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Just rewatched eagles docker jlt match ... I reckon brander is a chance for eagles. When moved to defense he was pretty solid. If named reckon he could cement a spot and potentially take tommy coles spot
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2019, 07:00:13 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 12, 2019, 06:55:04 PM
Suns: Lukosius, Burgess, Hombsch, Miles, Horlin-Smith, Murdoch and Collins will all debut.
So we have 3 expensive rookies confirmed in Collins, Burgess and Lukosius. First 2 will be in a lot of teams.
Not doubting you, but do you have a source? Don't want another assumption ala Nige and the Port rookies :P
Been trying to find article for you but it was from Sam McClure if you can trust him.
Quote from: eaglesman on March 13, 2019, 12:27:01 AM
Just rewatched eagles docker jlt match ... I reckon brander is a chance for eagles. When moved to defense he was pretty solid. If named reckon he could cement a spot and potentially take tommy coles spot
He was flowering amazing man, so clean back there. Really hope we settle him down back and Oscar Allen seems to have a key fwd post locked down in future.
Seen a few tweets tonight suggesting Brander is right in the frame, I hope he is!
Geelong: "He's got to the point where he'll be hard to push out (of the Round 1 team)" Chris Scott on Jordan Clark via @WhateleySEN
Sounding positive for Clark
Quote from: Ringo on March 13, 2019, 10:47:56 AM
Geelong: "He's got to the point where he'll be hard to push out (of the Round 1 team)" Chris Scott on Jordan Clark via @WhateleySEN
Sounding positive for Clark
Just what I wanted to hear - feel quite comfortable going light down back with Collins at D4 now
Quote from: Ringo on March 13, 2019, 10:47:56 AM
Geelong: "He's got to the point where he'll be hard to push out (of the Round 1 team)" Chris Scott on Jordan Clark via @WhateleySEN
Sounding positive for Clark
Awesome news for Clark!
I just can't work out how they'll line up round 1 in defence:
Blicavs
Taylor
Henry
Henderson
Bews
Kolodjashnij
Stewart
Tuohy?
Guthrie(s)?
O'Connor?
Pick 6, including Clark.
He'll have to play well to fit in there and stay in the side ???
Quote from: jfitty on March 13, 2019, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: Ringo on March 13, 2019, 10:47:56 AM
Geelong: "He's got to the point where he'll be hard to push out (of the Round 1 team)" Chris Scott on Jordan Clark via @WhateleySEN
Sounding positive for Clark
Awesome news for Clark!
I just can't work out how they'll line up round 1 in defence:
Blicavs
Taylor
Henry
Henderson
Bews
Kolodjashnij
Stewart
Tuohy?
Guthrie(s)?
O'Connor?
Pick 6, including Clark.
He'll have to play well to fit in there and stay in the side ???
But he’s a rookie who looked good and scored well, he’s guaranteed to have more JS than their established defenders!!!
Quote from: Nige on March 13, 2019, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: jfitty on March 13, 2019, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: Ringo on March 13, 2019, 10:47:56 AM
Geelong: "He's got to the point where he'll be hard to push out (of the Round 1 team)" Chris Scott on Jordan Clark via @WhateleySEN
Sounding positive for Clark
Awesome news for Clark!
I just can't work out how they'll line up round 1 in defence:
Blicavs
Taylor
Henry
Henderson
Bews
Kolodjashnij
Stewart
Tuohy?
Guthrie(s)?
O'Connor?
Pick 6, including Clark.
He'll have to play well to fit in there and stay in the side ???
But he’s a rookie who looked good and scored well, he’s guaranteed to have more JS than their established defenders!!!
Other than Stewart, Tuohy, Blicavs and probably Hendo I could easily see how the rest of those don't play. Established means squat if you're not up to it and others are passing you
O'Connor is meh, Kolo is alright but not a lock. Henry can play forward, as can Taylor (who might not even be best 22 anymore)
Clarke would be vying for Kolo/O'Connor/Z.Guthrie spot, and he could easily jump ahead of those 3
Thoughts on Jordan Ridley
Quote from: whynot102 on March 13, 2019, 09:53:44 PM
Thoughts on Jordan Ridley
He's been discussed a fair bit. I'm getting more and more tempted
Quote from: LaHug on March 13, 2019, 10:22:02 PM
Quote from: whynot102 on March 13, 2019, 09:53:44 PM
Thoughts on Jordan Ridley
He's been discussed a fair bit. I'm getting more and more tempted
Very tempted as well. What actually is his role? Rebounding defender?
Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.
The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 13, 2019, 11:17:45 PM
Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.
The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.
You're right, and I probably won't end up going with him but there's always guys that break out and he's showing the early signs. Would rather sit off him for 2 weeks though and if he goes well will get him in before price increase
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 13, 2019, 11:17:45 PM
Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.
The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.
Ridley was the first pick in the second round (and the pick right before Alex Witherden) so while he may not be a first round or top 10 pick he is still a pretty high pick.
Zac Fisher, Willem Drew (who is cheaper but a popular pick this year), Tom Stewart and Tom Williamson were all selected after him.
Darcy Moore was also really only taking kickouts against us when Collingwood were looking to get it long out of defense. He shanked half of them off the boot trying to get the distance. This is normally where Dunn would step in to take them and Goldsack has also done it on occassions. He doesn't appear to be the designated guy with Maynard and Crisp also taking them. Add in Howe as another option . Ridley was sharing the kickout duties for the Dons so it's a wash there. I'd back Ridley to win more of the pill though
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 14, 2019, 12:22:26 AM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 13, 2019, 11:17:45 PM
Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.
The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.
Ridley was the first pick in the second round (and the pick right before Alex Witherden) so while he may not be a first round or top 10 pick he is still a pretty high pick.
Zac Fisher, Willem Drew (who is cheaper but a popular pick this year), Tom Stewart and Tom Williamson were all selected after him.
Darcy Moore was also really only taking kickouts against us when Collingwood were looking to get it long out of defense. He shanked half of them off the boot trying to get the distance. This is normally where Dunn would step in to take them and Goldsack has also done it on occassions. He doesn't appear to be the designated guy with Maynard and Crisp also taking them. Add in Howe as another option . Ridley was sharing the kickout duties for the Dons so it's a wash there. I'd back Ridley to win more of the pill though
I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.
I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 14, 2019, 12:39:57 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 14, 2019, 12:22:26 AM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 13, 2019, 11:17:45 PM
Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.
The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.
Ridley was the first pick in the second round (and the pick right before Alex Witherden) so while he may not be a first round or top 10 pick he is still a pretty high pick.
Zac Fisher, Willem Drew (who is cheaper but a popular pick this year), Tom Stewart and Tom Williamson were all selected after him.
Darcy Moore was also really only taking kickouts against us when Collingwood were looking to get it long out of defense. He shanked half of them off the boot trying to get the distance. This is normally where Dunn would step in to take them and Goldsack has also done it on occassions. He doesn't appear to be the designated guy with Maynard and Crisp also taking them. Add in Howe as another option . Ridley was sharing the kickout duties for the Dons so it's a wash there. I'd back Ridley to win more of the pill though
I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.
I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.
Howe is probably the one that would impact Moore on kickins the most. Does normally take a heap, and played flower all JLT. I'm keen on Moore, but it's something to keep in mind re kickins
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Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.
The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.
Ridley was the first pick in the second round (and the pick right before Alex Witherden) so while he may not be a first round or top 10 pick he is still a pretty high pick.
Zac Fisher, Willem Drew (who is cheaper but a popular pick this year), Tom Stewart and Tom Williamson were all selected after him.
Darcy Moore was also really only taking kickouts against us when Collingwood were looking to get it long out of defense. He shanked half of them off the boot trying to get the distance. This is normally where Dunn would step in to take them and Goldsack has also done it on occassions. He doesn't appear to be the designated guy with Maynard and Crisp also taking them. Add in Howe as another option . Ridley was sharing the kickout duties for the Dons so it's a wash there. I'd back Ridley to win more of the pill though
I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.
I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.
Howe is probably the one that would impact Moore on kickins the most. Does normally take a heap, and played flower all JLT. I'm keen on Moore, but it's something to keep in mind re kickins
I think Moore looks more than capable of scoring in his newish defensive role & is cheap as chips relatively speaking. The real question is can he string some games together without breaking down?
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I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.
I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.
I'm referencing the Carlton game which I watched, not the Freo game which I saw 0 of. They shared the kicks pretty evenly hut put the ball in Moore's hands late in the game. I want to say he took 4 of the last 5. A couple were short chip passes but they wanted to use him to get the penetration that Howe/Crisp don't have in their kicking and were normally the Dunn/Goldsack kicks. They were both long tumble punts he shanked off the boot.
You can talk all you want about the next generation but Collingwood are in win now mode. If it comes to a clutch situation they will go to their clutch guys. Dunn or Goldsack are probably the ones you want on the ball busting kick out. Moore will get his share, but it's not going to be completely lopsided. He will probably see more while Dunn is out with the ACL and will probably see the majority of the 33% that he was getting.
I would peg Francis and Ridley to take BJ's share of the kickouts. BJ was taking about a quarter of them last year for the Bombers. I thought it was a bit more so that number will probably be in the 10-12% range. I thought it was a bit higher so that's my bad.
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I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.
I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.
I'm referencing the Carlton game which I watched, not the Freo game which I saw 0 of. They shared the kicks pretty evenly hut put the ball in Moore's hands late in the game. I want to say he took 4 of the last 5. A couple were short chip passes but they wanted to use him to get the penetration that Howe/Crisp don't have in their kicking and were normally the Dunn/Goldsack kicks. They were both long tumble punts he shanked off the boot.
You can talk all you want about the next generation but Collingwood are in win now mode. If it comes to a clutch situation they will go to their clutch guys. Dunn or Goldsack are probably the ones you want on the ball busting kick out. Moore will get his share, but it's not going to be completely lopsided. He will probably see more while Dunn is out with the ACL and will probably see the majority of the 33% that he was getting.
I would peg Francis and Ridley to take BJ's share of the kickouts. BJ was taking about a quarter of them last year for the Bombers. I thought it was a bit more so that number will probably be in the 10-12% range. I thought it was a bit higher so that's my bad.
Penetration on the kick? On the run which from the goal square majority of kick ins will be, both Crisp and Howe have more penetrating kicks than Moore.
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I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.
I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.
I'm referencing the Carlton game which I watched, not the Freo game which I saw 0 of. They shared the kicks pretty evenly hut put the ball in Moore's hands late in the game. I want to say he took 4 of the last 5. A couple were short chip passes but they wanted to use him to get the penetration that Howe/Crisp don't have in their kicking and were normally the Dunn/Goldsack kicks. They were both long tumble punts he shanked off the boot.
You can talk all you want about the next generation but Collingwood are in win now mode. If it comes to a clutch situation they will go to their clutch guys. Dunn or Goldsack are probably the ones you want on the ball busting kick out. Moore will get his share, but it's not going to be completely lopsided. He will probably see more while Dunn is out with the ACL and will probably see the majority of the 33% that he was getting.
I would peg Francis and Ridley to take BJ's share of the kickouts. BJ was taking about a quarter of them last year for the Bombers. I thought it was a bit more so that number will probably be in the 10-12% range. I thought it was a bit higher so that's my bad.
This is why I follow what this guy has to say on fanfooty. He watches the games properly. Never mind the stats that deceive most. Trusts his eyes.
Lol as a Pies supporter I can say right now Moore will take majority of kick ins.
Plus this is what has me excited about Moore regardless of kick outs.
Averaged 18 touches over the 2 JLT’s, had 7 intercepts marks and led the Pies for rebound 50’s with 13.
Lock
Also Saints just picked up Johnathon Marsh ex Pies guy.
Very interesting. Carlisle down and Roberton 50/50, would be rookie priced!!!
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Lol as a Pies supporter I can say right now Moore will take majority of kick ins.
Plus this is what has me excited about Moore regardless of kick outs.
Averaged 18 touches over the 2 JLT’s, had 7 intercepts marks and led the Pies for rebound 50’s with 13.
Lock
Why is Moore the better option for kick-outs?
Quote from: _wato on March 14, 2019, 05:28:25 PM
Also Saints just picked up Johnathon Marsh ex Pies guy.
Very interesting. Carlisle down and Roberton 50/50, would be rookie priced!!!
Would be hard to say no to a 100k guy at D8. It may mean I go with 5 rookies in defence if he's named round 1
Might help with sorting out structures etc
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-14/mock-teams-your-clubs-best-22-for-round-one
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Lol as a Pies supporter I can say right now Moore will take majority of kick ins.
Plus this is what has me excited about Moore regardless of kick outs.
Averaged 18 touches over the 2 JLT’s, had 7 intercepts marks and led the Pies for rebound 50’s with 13.
Lock
Why is Moore the better option for kick-outs?
Because Howe is a fantastic aerialist and great field kick, he’d be better utilised as the next option to chop open zones. Crisp is better used as a link up player if we go the short to utilise his speed and awareness and Dunn is old as heck, I’d rather him be standing the oppositions best forward in case of a counter attack.
Don’t even get me started on Maynard’s kicking and langdon better used elsewhere.
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Lol as a Pies supporter I can say right now Moore will take majority of kick ins.
Plus this is what has me excited about Moore regardless of kick outs.
Averaged 18 touches over the 2 JLT’s, had 7 intercepts marks and led the Pies for rebound 50’s with 13.
Lock
Why is Moore the better option for kick-outs?
Because Howe is a fantastic aerialist and great field kick, he’d be better utilised as the next option to chop open zones. Crisp is better used as a link up player if we go the short to utilise his speed and awareness and Dunn is old as heck, I’d rather him be standing the oppositions best forward in case of a counter attack.
Don’t even get me started on Maynard’s kicking and langdon better used elsewhere.
Have to agree with Wato..... Dunn is the biggest threat but I think they are going to want to give Moore a chance like they did in JLT. It's really Moore's role to lose.
There's really not much risk with Moore at his price
If he turns into a bad pick he's an easy downgrade to a missed rookie, or even a Ridley/Robbo/Hanley type if they look to be killing it
His DPP with Burgess giving you cover on both lines and potential upside due to role is quite attractive when the risk is low like it is.
If he was 300k different story maybe, but 240k is not a big gamble all things considered.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2019, 08:05:12 PM
There's really not much risk with Moore at his price
If he turns into a bad pick he's an easy downgrade to a missed rookie, or even a Ridley/Robbo/Hanley type if they look to be killing it
His DPP with Burgess giving you cover on both lines and potential upside due to role is quite attractive when the risk is low like it is.
If he was 300k different story maybe, but 240k is not a big gamble all things considered.
Kind of agree but it's finding 40k to upgrade Collins which is the problem. If Robbo is out he's the logical choice.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2019, 08:05:12 PM
There's really not much risk with Moore at his price
If he turns into a bad pick he's an easy downgrade to a missed rookie, or even a Ridley/Robbo/Hanley type if they look to be killing it
His DPP with Burgess giving you cover on both lines and potential upside due to role is quite attractive when the risk is low like it is.
If he was 300k different story maybe, but 240k is not a big gamble all things considered.
Kind of agree but it's finding 40k to upgrade Collins which is the problem. If Robbo is out he's the logical choice.
There's enough options down back imo. The forward line is a mess, so I've had Moore at F4 behind Greene for a little while now, and Burgess down back on bench. Moore at F4 kind of relieves me of fwd worries too for now. I'd rather 3 def rookies on field then 3 fwd rookies on field so it seems to be working well for me atm
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2019, 08:05:12 PM
There's really not much risk with Moore at his price
If he turns into a bad pick he's an easy downgrade to a missed rookie, or even a Ridley/Robbo/Hanley type if they look to be killing it
His DPP with Burgess giving you cover on both lines and potential upside due to role is quite attractive when the risk is low like it is.
If he was 300k different story maybe, but 240k is not a big gamble all things considered.
Kind of agree but it's finding 40k to upgrade Collins which is the problem. If Robbo is out he's the logical choice.
There's enough options down back imo. The forward line is a mess, so I've had Moore at F4 behind Greene for a little while now, and Burgess down back on bench. Moore at F4 kind of relieves me of fwd worries too for now. I'd rather 3 def rookies on field then 3 fwd rookies on field so it seems to be working well for me atm
Don't think you need to stress about one line or another, you can switch that up if the need arises.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2019, 08:05:12 PM
There's really not much risk with Moore at his price
If he turns into a bad pick he's an easy downgrade to a missed rookie, or even a Ridley/Robbo/Hanley type if they look to be killing it
His DPP with Burgess giving you cover on both lines and potential upside due to role is quite attractive when the risk is low like it is.
If he was 300k different story maybe, but 240k is not a big gamble all things considered.
Kind of agree but it's finding 40k to upgrade Collins which is the problem. If Robbo is out he's the logical choice.
There's enough options down back imo. The forward line is a mess, so I've had Moore at F4 behind Greene for a little while now, and Burgess down back on bench. Moore at F4 kind of relieves me of fwd worries too for now. I'd rather 3 def rookies on field then 3 fwd rookies on field so it seems to be working well for me atm
Don't think you need to stress about one line or another, you can switch that up if the need arises.
I dropped Mundy for Moore (now my F4 behind Heeney) and turned Collins into Clark, which gave me enough cash to turn Hind into Dusty and the team looks so much better (plus get to use DPP between Moore and the slow burner emergency Burgess).
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2019, 08:05:12 PM
There's really not much risk with Moore at his price
If he turns into a bad pick he's an easy downgrade to a missed rookie, or even a Ridley/Robbo/Hanley type if they look to be killing it
His DPP with Burgess giving you cover on both lines and potential upside due to role is quite attractive when the risk is low like it is.
If he was 300k different story maybe, but 240k is not a big gamble all things considered.
Kind of agree but it's finding 40k to upgrade Collins which is the problem. If Robbo is out he's the logical choice.
There's enough options down back imo. The forward line is a mess, so I've had Moore at F4 behind Greene for a little while now, and Burgess down back on bench. Moore at F4 kind of relieves me of fwd worries too for now. I'd rather 3 def rookies on field then 3 fwd rookies on field so it seems to be working well for me atm
Don't think you need to stress about one line or another, you can switch that up if the need arises.
I dropped Mundy for Moore (now my F4 behind Heeney) and turned Collins into Clark, which gave me enough cash to turn Hind into Dusty and the team looks so much better (plus get to use DPP between Moore and the slow burner emergency Burgess).
With news about Robbo I'm also bringing in the Moore/Burgess double act. The extra funds can get Dusty up to Fyfe.
ZClarke could be a fair chance for early games now with Daniher out for 6 weeks as well
Quote from: Ricochet on March 15, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
ZClarke could be a fair chance for early games now with Daniher out for 6 weeks as well
That would surely just firm McKernan's spot as a forward and pinch hitter though, right? I don't think Clarke's a capable forward...?
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Quote from: Ricochet on March 15, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
ZClarke could be a fair chance for early games now with Daniher out for 6 weeks as well
That would surely just firm McKernan's spot as a forward and pinch hitter though, right? I don't think Clarke's a capable forward...?
Yeah I'd think so
Daniher was out last year and that didn't help Luey at all so I doubt it helps Clarke
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Quote from: Ricochet on March 15, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
ZClarke could be a fair chance for early games now with Daniher out for 6 weeks as well
That would surely just firm McKernan's spot as a forward and pinch hitter though, right? I don't think Clarke's a capable forward...?
Yeah I'd think so
Daniher was out last year and that didn't help Luey at all so I doubt it helps Clarke
+1 really helps Mckernan and being a Bombers fan I hope they continue last year’s 2nd half form into this season.
Are people still picking Hately in addition to Walsh/Cousins/Butters as the expensive mid rookies? Tonned up in JLT1 but didn’t fare that well in JLT2.
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Quote from: Ricochet on March 15, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
ZClarke could be a fair chance for early games now with Daniher out for 6 weeks as well
That would surely just firm McKernan's spot as a forward and pinch hitter though, right? I don't think Clarke's a capable forward...?
Clarke spent a fair chunk of his career at Freo as a fwd/2nd ruck to Sandi. He's not useless down there
Quote from: tommy10 on March 15, 2019, 09:38:29 AM
Are people still picking Hately in addition to Walsh/Cousins/Butters as the expensive mid rookies? Tonned up in JLT1 but didn’t fare that well in JLT2.
I didn't even think people could afford Walsh/Cousins/Butters. That's three pricey rookies already. I wouldn't get Hately on top of that as well. Probably just Walsh and Butters for me and, right now, I can't afford Butters :/
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Quote from: tommy10 on March 15, 2019, 09:38:29 AM
Are people still picking Hately in addition to Walsh/Cousins/Butters as the expensive mid rookies? Tonned up in JLT1 but didn’t fare that well in JLT2.
I didn't even think people could afford Walsh/Cousins/Butters. That's three pricey rookies already. I wouldn't get Hately on top of that as well. Probably just Walsh and Butters for me and, right now, I can't afford Butters :/
I don’t have Cousins, but have Walsh and Butters. Have Hately in my side atm, but have enough cash to go to Cousins. Not sure I’ll do it as it a lot to spend on rookies.
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Are people still picking Hately in addition to Walsh/Cousins/Butters as the expensive mid rookies? Tonned up in JLT1 but didn’t fare that well in JLT2.
I didn't even think people could afford Walsh/Cousins/Butters. That's three pricey rookies already. I wouldn't get Hately on top of that as well. Probably just Walsh and Butters for me and, right now, I can't afford Butters :/
I don’t have Cousins, but have Walsh and Butters. Have Hately in my side atm, but have enough cash to go to Cousins. Not sure I’ll do it as it a lot to spend on rookies.
I'm rocking the Walsh/Butters/Hately combo atm. Ultimately depends on who is actually named rd1 though.
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Quote from: tommy10 on March 15, 2019, 11:11:18 AM
Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 10:22:31 AM
Quote from: tommy10 on March 15, 2019, 09:38:29 AM
Are people still picking Hately in addition to Walsh/Cousins/Butters as the expensive mid rookies? Tonned up in JLT1 but didn’t fare that well in JLT2.
I didn't even think people could afford Walsh/Cousins/Butters. That's three pricey rookies already. I wouldn't get Hately on top of that as well. Probably just Walsh and Butters for me and, right now, I can't afford Butters :/
I don’t have Cousins, but have Walsh and Butters. Have Hately in my side atm, but have enough cash to go to Cousins. Not sure I’ll do it as it a lot to spend on rookies.
I'm rocking the Walsh/Butters/Hately combo atm. Ultimately depends on who is actually named rd1 though.
Just butters and walsh for me atm. Ad their my m7 and 8
Jonathon Marsh been added now is 163k
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 15, 2019, 01:58:35 PM
Jonathon Marsh been added now is 163k
Touch expensive imo...? hard to fit him in with Collins, Ridley, Scrimshaw and Duursma being better options. Especially with no real gauge of pre-season form.
Might be a decent downgrade if he doesn't crack the side for a few weeks (doubt he will be a round 1 start regardless)
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Jonathon Marsh been added now is 163k
Touch expensive imo...? hard to fit him in with Collins, Ridley, Scrimshaw and Duursma being better options. Especially with no real gauge of pre-season form.
Might be a decent downgrade if he doesn't crack the side for a few weeks (doubt he will be a round 1 start regardless)
he might with Brown suspended rnd 1
Marsh is a nice backup option just in case someone like Scrimshaw doesn't get named - allows me to keep my structure in place
Wouldn't be changing my structure and going even lighter because of him though - just a handy backup option
Melb have added 23-year-old VFL player Jay Lockhart through the pre-season SSP.
Saints have added Sam Rowe.... but 17 games in 2018 means forgetaboudid...he's no rookie.
Clarke though may get his chance with Daniher out for 6...McKernan should be the one that benefits most though one would think.
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Melb have added 23-year-old VFL player Jay Lockhart through the pre-season SSP.
Jay Lockhart VFL 2018 stats per game
10.1 kicks (60.59% effective)
6.1 handballs (85.95% effective)
16.2 disposals
3 marks (.3 contested)
4.2 tackles
0.5 goals
1.15 FF
1.3 FA
Notes: Sub 180cm, ferocious attack on ball & runs all day. Has good goal sense. Very up & down on the stats sheet, really needs consistency.
Jonothan Marsh WAFL 2018 stats per game (uninjured)
12.9 kicks
5.4 handballs
18.3 disposals
6.4 marks
2.6 tackles
0.7 FF
0.9 FA
Notes: Can play either as an agile third tall or rebounding defender. Possesses extremely freakish pace & agility for a 190cm+ player. Played 10 games for Collingwood in 2016 as a third tall & averaged 60. Has had issues over decision-making in the past.
Sam Fletcher (GC) TAC Cup 2018 stats per game (uninjured)
10.6 kicks (50.94% effective)
14.5 handballs (71.72% effective)
25.1 disposals (53.73% contested)
3.7 marks
7.3 tackles
5.4 clearances (inj game incl.)
3.3 I50 (inj game incl.)
1.2 FF
1 FA
Notes: Inside accumulator who had an interrupted top-age year with injury. Hard at the contest operator who gets first use of the ball. Has some efficiency queries but is a nice size for modern day footballer (188cm).
Just talking purely mids in this case
I don't think we will have much trouble getting 3 cheap guys to fill out the bench. Constable, Atkins, Gibbons, Scott, Hind are all a good chance
What I'm trying to make a decision on is the pricier guys
What if all of Walsh, Butters, Caldwell/Hately line up
Part of me thinks don't bother, just grab Walsh and the cheapies, but the other part is wondering if I should grab the like of Butters/Caldwell/Hately
It means I go lighter in the mids, and in turn deeper on other lines, but if there's enough rookies on all 3 lines then I'm going to need to prioritise and make a call on which ones take precedent over others etc
Tough decisions ahead
Just updating the signings under SSP and SC Prices:
DEMONS: Jay Lockhart,102,400 MID/DEF
SAINTS: Johnathon Marsh,163,100 DEF
SAINTS: Sam Rowe, 270,800 DEF
HAWKS: Ned Reeves,102,400 RUC
GCS: Sam Fletcher, 102,400 MID
That's a shame about Marsh's price. Would be a lock at 102k
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2019, 04:46:47 PM
Just talking purely mids in this case
I don't think we will have much trouble getting 3 cheap guys to fill out the bench. Constable, Atkins, Gibbons, Scott, Hind are all a good chance
What I'm trying to make a decision on is the pricier guys
What if all of Walsh, Butters, Caldwell/Hately line up
Part of me thinks don't bother, just grab Walsh and the cheapies, but the other part is wondering if I should grab the like of Butters/Caldwell/Hately
It means I go lighter in the mids, and in turn deeper on other lines, but if there's enough rookies on all 3 lines then I'm going to need to prioritise and make a call on which ones take precedent over others etc
Tough decisions ahead
A decision I have been struggling with.
Walsh is locked.
Butters/Cousins have shown really good potential but having Walsh at M7 limits me. I think Constable and Scott will score well enough for M8 and Gibbons and Atkins only need a few good games to make some serious coin.
Cousins, Hately and Butters miss out at this stage.
Butters the one I want most.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2019, 04:46:47 PM
Just talking purely mids in this case
I don't think we will have much trouble getting 3 cheap guys to fill out the bench. Constable, Atkins, Gibbons, Scott, Hind are all a good chance
What I'm trying to make a decision on is the pricier guys
What if all of Walsh, Butters, Caldwell/Hately line up
Part of me thinks don't bother, just grab Walsh and the cheapies, but the other part is wondering if I should grab the like of Butters/Caldwell/Hately
It means I go lighter in the mids, and in turn deeper on other lines, but if there's enough rookies on all 3 lines then I'm going to need to prioritise and make a call on which ones take precedent over others etc
Tough decisions ahead
If All line up I would grab Walsh and one of the three with the three cheapies on the bench. Unless you think they will score better than rookies on other lines.
Other thing to consider is how is the JS of all three as well as it will be a waste of cash sitting on pine at that value after 2 rds if dropped.
For what is worth I have Walsh at M7, Constable M8 with Atkins, Scott and Gibbons on bench
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2019, 04:46:47 PM
Just talking purely mids in this case
I don't think we will have much trouble getting 3 cheap guys to fill out the bench. Constable, Atkins, Gibbons, Scott, Hind are all a good chance
What I'm trying to make a decision on is the pricier guys
What if all of Walsh, Butters, Caldwell/Hately line up
Part of me thinks don't bother, just grab Walsh and the cheapies, but the other part is wondering if I should grab the like of Butters/Caldwell/Hately
It means I go lighter in the mids, and in turn deeper on other lines, but if there's enough rookies on all 3 lines then I'm going to need to prioritise and make a call on which ones take precedent over others etc
Tough decisions ahead
Butters and Hately likely get you +10 points on most defence and forward rookies. Butters could comfortably go 70+, and Hately has a 50:50 chance to push 70 IMO. Compare that to fielding a Hore/Duur/Balta/Parker/PetrolJelly at F6/D6 with lighter foward and back lines.
Also, given the magic number is somewhere in 5.5k range, if you're gaining 10 points on other rooks you are generating cash at about a marginally higher rate than the cheap rookies. For example, Butters @ +10 points on Hore means Butters will get 55k more expensive than Hore. Hore is 40k cheaper, therefore if Butters goes 10+ points up on any cheapy, you're 15k better off.
I seem to be an outsider, but given historically mid pricers are more likely to be keepers in the defence and forwards, I reckon running light the mids is a better structure. Also JS issues in the mids are less of an issue given you have 3 bench spots to cover a rookie getting dropped.
Currently running 4 premos, Walsh, Butters, Hately, Contable in my mids
But do appreciate that if you run cheaper rookies over Butters, Hately and that gets you 60-70k in other lines to get better mid-pricers or more premos that you can make up those points up with. Definitely a situational issue
Quote from: Locinator on March 15, 2019, 05:03:33 PM
Butters and Hately likely get you +10 points on most defence and forward rookies. Butters could comfortably go 70+, and Hately has a 50:50 chance to push 70 IMO. Compare that to fielding a Hore/Duur/Balta/Parker/PetrolJelly at F6/D6 with lighter foward and back lines.
Also, given the magic number is somewhere in 5.5k range, if you're gaining 10 points on other rooks you are generating cash at about a marginally higher rate than the cheap rookies. For example, Butters @ +10 points on Hore means Butters will get 55k more expensive than Hore. Hore is 40k cheaper, therefore if Butters goes 10+ points up on any cheapy, you're 15k better off.
I seem to be an outsider, but given historically mid pricers are more likely to be keepers in the defence and forwards, I reckon running light the mids is a better structure. Also JS issues in the mids are less of an issue given you have 3 bench spots to cover a rookie getting dropped.
Currently running 4 premos, Walsh, Butters, Hately, Contable in my mids
This is exactly what I am talking about
I currently have M6 Libba, M7 Walsh, M8 Constable, and I am happy with that, but at the same time I have guys like Duursma and Scrimshaw on field - and if hately/Caldwell/Butters are going to score better than them and are priced similar, do I dump my premo M5 and move Libba/Walsh back a spot, bring in the other mid rookie and drop Scrim/Duurs for a prem defender instead?
I'm not too worried about the prem spread for now - whether I have 3 def or 4 def keepers to start etc - I just want to get the rookies right
If you're going for overall though, it might still be better to have those few extra mid premiums. Lose 10 points from rookies but gain 30 from premiums.
Have seen a lot of teams with Constable at m8. I'm not convinced he even gets named, let alone his js. Who is he pushing out of the cats line up if they're also supposedly fitting Atkins and Clark in?
Quote from: Locinator on March 15, 2019, 05:03:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2019, 04:46:47 PM
Just talking purely mids in this case
I don't think we will have much trouble getting 3 cheap guys to fill out the bench. Constable, Atkins, Gibbons, Scott, Hind are all a good chance
What I'm trying to make a decision on is the pricier guys
What if all of Walsh, Butters, Caldwell/Hately line up
Part of me thinks don't bother, just grab Walsh and the cheapies, but the other part is wondering if I should grab the like of Butters/Caldwell/Hately
It means I go lighter in the mids, and in turn deeper on other lines, but if there's enough rookies on all 3 lines then I'm going to need to prioritise and make a call on which ones take precedent over others etc
Tough decisions ahead
Butters and Hately likely get you +10 points on most defence and forward rookies. Butters could comfortably go 70+, and Hately has a 50:50 chance to push 70 IMO. Compare that to fielding a Hore/Duur/Balta/Parker/PetrolJelly at F6/D6 with lighter foward and back lines.
Also, given the magic number is somewhere in 5.5k range, if you're gaining 10 points on other rooks you are generating cash at about a marginally higher rate than the cheap rookies. For example, Butters @ +10 points on Hore means Butters will get 55k more expensive than Hore. Hore is 40k cheaper, therefore if Butters goes 10+ points up on any cheapy, you're 15k better off.
I seem to be an outsider, but given historically mid pricers are more likely to be keepers in the defence and forwards, I reckon running light the mids is a better structure. Also JS issues in the mids are less of an issue given you have 3 bench spots to cover a rookie getting dropped.
Currently running 4 premos, Walsh, Butters, Hately, Contable in my mids
Don't think Butters is a certainty to hit 70, for starters I don't think he will get the latitude in the real deal & he is incredibly light. He is also very outside, can see him having good days but also some poor ones. Stephenson won the Rising Star & only averaged 64, can't say Butters is a 6 point better player.
Hately is probably better placed to hit 70 but the moment he has a stinker Caldwell or someone else will be straight in. The other point is these blokes are on the bench so it's largely irrelevant what their averages are, it's whether or not they can make money, don't need to remind peple that it only takes a couple of good scores to get the price moving.
Quote from: Ricochet on March 15, 2019, 02:36:49 PM
Melb have added 23-year-old VFL player Jay Lockhart through the pre-season SSP.
He’s a “lock†if he plays ;D
Quote from: Gavdroid on March 15, 2019, 07:22:06 PM
Have seen a lot of teams with Constable at m8. I'm not convinced he even gets named, let alone his js. Who is he pushing out of the cats line up if they're also supposedly fitting Atkins and Clark in?
B: Jordan Clark, Mark Blicavs, Jack Henry
HB: Mark O'Connor, Harry Taylor, Tom Stewart
C: Mitch Duncan, Joel Selwood, Brandan Parfitt
HF: Sam Menegola, Tom Hawkins, Luke Dahlhaus
F: Gary Rohan, Esava Ratugolea, Gary Ablett
Foll: Rhys Stanley, Patrick Dangerfield, Tim Kelly
I/C: Lachie Henderson, Cameron Guthrie, Tom Atkins, Charlie Constable
EMERG: Jake Kolodjashnij, Quinton Narkle, Zach Guthrie, Gryan Miers
NEW: Jordan Clark (draft), Luke Dahlhaus (Western Bulldogs), Gary Rohan (Sydney), Charlie Constable (second-year)
UNAVAILABLE: Jed Bews (groin), Nakia Cockatoo (adductor), Lachie Fogarty (hip), Scott Selwood (hamstring), Zac Smith (knee), Zach Tuohy (knee)
NOTES: The biggest headache centres around the choice of the final defender. Given the Cats play a seventh off the bench,
Lachie Henderson just gets the nod over
Jake Kolodjashnij who was managed in the final JLT Series match.
Tom Stewart,
Mark O'Connor and
Jordan Clark â€" a lock for his debut â€" can play small to contend with the Pies' dynamic forward line. It proves how desperate the Cats are to see
Zach Tuohy and
Jed Bews back early in the season.
Tom Atkins' impressive pre-season wins him a spot over
Quinton Narkle who played 50 per cent game time in each pre-season game.
Luke Dahlhaus and
Gary Rohan will start in attack, while second-year midfielder
Charlie Constable earns a debut.
- Mitch Cleary
Quote from: Locinator on March 15, 2019, 05:03:33 PM
... I seem to be an outsider, but given historically mid pricers are more likely to be keepers in the defence and forwards, I reckon running light the mids is a better structure. Also JS issues in the mids are less of an issue given you have 3 bench spots to cover a rookie getting dropped.
Spot on!
JS for atkins and constable look iffy to me I have CC at m9 and atkins/clark at not in my team at the moment. most likely I will replace hore or duursma with clark if he starts rd1. Charlie with Hately/Caldwell option.
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 15, 2019, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: Locinator on March 15, 2019, 05:03:33 PM
... I seem to be an outsider, but given historically mid pricers are more likely to be keepers in the defence and forwards, I reckon running light the mids is a better structure. Also JS issues in the mids are less of an issue given you have 3 bench spots to cover a rookie getting dropped.
Spot on!
As a general rule I avoid mid price mids like the plague! Think I've had 1 in about 5 years. Any mid pricer to me, has to either be a keeper, or cheap enough to 150k cash.
Just throwing this out there with the Atkins/Gibbons picks. Both are likely to be small forwards for the majority of the season. You're looking at guys that are going to put up a lot of clunkers in a row. Yes they are cheap, but when they put up that 45-50 average (like Pasons/Pickett/Garlett) and you have to sideways trade them to a better scoring rookie because they're so cheap it will sting.
I went and added all the relevant rookie priced players (Walsh and under) to an empty team last night. I think the guys you're looking for are the ones that will spend most of their time either behind the ball or in the midfield. Those picks can also flop (hello Lochie O'Brien), but it feels like you will have a higher success rate.
which rookies have u got now matt
This list won't include the newbies that signed today. I expect most won't play anyway
Backs
Collins - Solid JS but speculative scoring in a Gold Coast team that could win a wooden spoon. Career average of 70 and the Dockers where pretty craphouse when he averaged 75ish in 2016. Probably a must start
Scrimshaw - Had an excellent quarter where he had 12 touches and a goal in one JLT. Was apparently a long way off at the Suns but he is the ideal Birchall replacement. Birchall was a gun. He averaged something crazy like 20 touches a game through his first few years of footy and an 80ish average. Wouldn't say he is a must, but he looks to be a decent pick and prefect fit in the Hawks system. If the job security is good he is worth the risk
Jordan Clark - Seems like he will get games and he was impressive in the JLT game I missed. Teammates are talking him up, however guys in their first year in the system tend to struggle with the pace of the game once it gets to the real stuff. I'd probably want him in that D6/D7 spot where you spot field him against the crap teams that are more his speed.
Duursma - Really struggled in JLT 1 to get involved against the Crows. Will probably play along the wing in chunks but it feels like he is probably the trap of the defensive rookies
McKay - Poor JS. May or may not line up R1 and likely to score really poorly. Hard pass
Watson - Haven't watched the Eagles JLT games so I can't make a call. Saw the mock team and they had him in (although I went back to the AFL site and it looks like I read it wrong). I doubt the JS is good anyway.
Burgess - Should have good JS but the GC forward line is the AFL equivalent of the Factory of Sadness. I'm expecting a mostly trash return with 1 or 2 decent scores.
Mids
Walsh - Lock and load. He is my first picked rookie of the bunch. I mentioned the fact first year guys tend to get caught out by the speed of the game when they get up to AFL level. What impressed me the most with Walsh is that he picked it up after about 5-10 minutes of game time and settled right in.
LDU - Hard one to read. His form last year was that of a first year player that struggled to adjust to the pace and intensity of AFL football. As an inside player he also needs to gain the body strength to bang with the big boys and has guys like Cunnington in the same side. Seemed to be putting together a solid pre-season and Brad Scott has said he does want to ease him in. Probably a pass considering his price, but a 70 average wouldn't shock me.
Chayce Jones - Probably gets a gig round 1 but it feels like his role is not going to be very SC friendly. He won't have great job security with other Crows pushing for spots and he is going to be in mainly for his pressure. Best case scenario he has a Dan Butler type year for a 60 average and a hefty price tag.
Caldwell/Hately - I'll combine these two since you will only start one. I caught the GWS game where all the rookies struggled. Hatley killed it in the first game and Phil Davis said to give Caldwell a 10 year contract today he has looked that good. I'm getting Taranto vibes where I think they will probably get you a mid 60 at best come years end but they are probably going to start slow with the Giants tough early draw.
Constable - Probably my 2nd picked mid after Walsh. His DE is going to be a worry as well as his tank. He should see a bit of the footy and at his price he has to be locked. The fact it's not his first year in the system is another tick as you tend to get more points out of these guys.
Butters - Watched both Port games and he is a really handy player. He has a knack for finding the ball in the right spots and should snag a couple of goals. Probably the pick out of Caldwell/Hatley and himself and I'll pick him
Bailey Scott - Even though I watched both games North played (although the first was half assed and the second I spent more time watching Rocky go off) I didn't really notice him. Looks like he will line up round 1 but I have no idea what his role will be. Super cheap price and if he looks to be playing midfield he is probably a superior pick to Gibbons.
Tom Atkins - Will be the tackle pressure forward in the Geelong forward line. The same role they had for superstars such as James Parsons, Cory Gregson, Sparkle Narkle, Jamaine Jones and a long list of other SC spuds. Mature age is a tick but I'm not expecting much more than a 55 average. It has a bit of Nick Kommer vibe, although Kommer was 102k.
Gibbons - Cheapest mid, will play mostly forward pocket in a bad team and will rely on tackle and goal numbers in a team that hasn't kicked 100 points in 2 years and can't hold the ball in to save their lives. I'm surprised how good our midfield depth has been which has probably hurt him. David Cuningham has also been Carlton's best forward through pre-season. If he wasn't bargain basement I probably wouldn't consider him. In the midfield I'd probably only want one of him or Atkins in a perfect world
Rucks
Clarke - Decent score against us in JLT and probably the only guy to consider at R3 of the possible playing rookies
Fort - That whopping 0.30 PPM in JLT takes all kinds of special to do. Probably a pass.
Forwards
Setters - Pick of the bunch. Lock him and load him. Will play as a high half forward with stints through the guts.
Drew - Looked good and had lots of midfield minutes with no Wines. Probably has to be locked and at worst is a decent bench option
Balta - Sketchy JS but not competing with much for a forward bench spot. Probably lock him in
Parker - Hello 50 average. Again, not enough forward rookies and looks to have good JS so he gets my F8 spot
Petruccelle - Probably Parker with worse JS. Pass
Honourable mentions to James Cousins and Ridley. I have both at the moment but they are both more expensive than Walsh so they don't count for this exercise.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 16, 2019, 01:12:45 AM
which rookies have u got now matt
It depends how I structure up down back. Right now I have Ridley, Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw on field with Duursma and Burgess on the bench (Brodie Smith at D2). Smith will likely move to D3 and one of Duursma/Burgess is out. Ideal scenario I have Smith at D4 with Ridley/Collins at D5/D6 and sit Scrimshaw/Clark on the bench.
I am pretty much sold on Setters and Drew with Balta and Parker on the bench in the forward line. That probably won't change at all.
Midfield I have Cousins, Walsh, Butters and Constable locked with one of Constable/Butters on field at M8. Bench spots I am undecided on what to do. Probably too much cash to grab LDU/Hately/Caldwell, I'm not sure on Bailey Scott since I know F all about him and then it's Atkins/Gibbons. I feel you may not get a lot of cash generation starting both so I might have to go back and watch some games or try and figure out a way to get a mid premo in to my team.
Rucks I have Fort for cash right now but he is likely to become Clarke. If he gets named R1 that is probably a lock. I am still hesitant to go two premium rucks so I will keep looking at Pierce and Mummy for R2 (assuming Clarke gets named or I'm screwed for coverage.
thanks matt
one you forgot was Hind tho interested to see ur thoughts on him
Hore, Hind and Blakey were all left out. Hore is probably the only one I'd consider over Burgess, but it's probably a nay
Also Joyce and potentially Wilkie for the Saints as well
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2019, 03:30:03 AM
Also Joyce and potentially Wilkie for the Saints as well
Wilkie won't be debuting any time soon imo
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 13, 2019, 11:02:24 AM
Quote from: Ringo on March 13, 2019, 10:47:56 AM
Geelong: "He's got to the point where he'll be hard to push out (of the Round 1 team)" Chris Scott on Jordan Clark via @WhateleySEN
Sounding positive for Clark
Just what I wanted to hear - feel quite comfortable going light down back with Collins at D4 now
+1 for me, have given it a lot of thought and think I've made peace with myself now
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2019, 02:31:31 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 16, 2019, 01:12:45 AM
which rookies have u got now matt
It depends how I structure up down back. Right now I have Ridley, Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw on field with Duursma and Burgess on the bench (Brodie Smith at D2). Smith will likely move to D3 and one of Duursma/Burgess is out. Ideal scenario I have Smith at D4 with Ridley/Collins at D5/D6 and sit Scrimshaw/Clark on the bench.
I am pretty much sold on Setters and Drew with Balta and Parker on the bench in the forward line. That probably won't change at all.
Midfield I have Cousins, Walsh, Butters and Constable locked with one of Constable/Butters on field at M8. Bench spots I am undecided on what to do. Probably too much cash to grab LDU/Hately/Caldwell, I'm not sure on Bailey Scott since I know F all about him and then it's Atkins/Gibbons. I feel you may not get a lot of cash generation starting both so I might have to go back and watch some games or try and figure out a way to get a mid premo in to my team.
Rucks I have Fort for cash right now but he is likely to become Clarke. If he gets named R1 that is probably a lock. I am still hesitant to go two premium rucks so I will keep looking at Pierce and Mummy for R2 (assuming Clarke gets named or I'm screwed for coverage.
Almost exactly the same rookie lineup for me.
In defense I have Ridley, Scrimshaw, Clark and Duursma. You had me looking again at Collins with a 70 average but need to remember he is likely to be playing a lockdown defender role with Thompson out for the season.
Mids are the same with Scott in over Gibbons at the moment.
Bines at R3 but could still become Clarke.
Same forwards.
Is anyone looking at Cuming in defense?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 16, 2019, 11:46:05 AM
Is anyone looking at Cuming in defense?
If named, definitely worth considering. My concern about Cumming would be he only really got a look in for JLT1 when Williams was spending bulk time off the ground with an injury. Likewise in JLT2, Cumming spent more time on ground, but Williams was out. Personally, I don't think he and Williams will be picked in the same side for Round 1, hoping to be wrong.
I want Burgess for DPP with Moore so which three would you pick of Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma? Two on the field, one on the bench.
Or I can get Ridley if I go Ridley, Clark, Duursma, Burgess. Leaves me with no cash and miss Collins...
Quote from: LaHug on March 16, 2019, 01:06:41 PM
I want Burgess for DPP with Moore so which three would you pick of Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma? Two on the field, one on the bench.
Or I can get Ridley if I go Ridley, Clark, Duursma, Burgess. Leaves me with no cash and miss Collins...
Most people are going to be forced to make a decision like this
At this point, I think we just have to wait for teams and then decide. Who knows, maybe one of them doesn't get picked, making the decision much easier
If they all get picked, and you're adamant on keeping Burgess then I think it's just a case of flipping a coin
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 16, 2019, 03:37:14 AM
Wilkie won't be debuting any time soon imo
Saints defense is looking thin right now. They might throw a couple to the wolves but I wouldn't be picking him anyway
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 16, 2019, 11:35:19 AM
Almost exactly the same rookie lineup for me.
In defense I have Ridley, Scrimshaw, Clark and Duursma. You had me looking again at Collins with a 70 average but need to remember he is likely to be playing a lockdown defender role with Thompson out for the season.
Mids are the same with Scott in over Gibbons at the moment.
Bines at R3 but could still become Clarke.
Same forwards.
They also got Hombsch although he can't take the bigger key forwards. The sample size isn't that big on Collins, but worst case you can use the correction trade to turn him into whichever of the defensive rookies stand out.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 16, 2019, 11:46:05 AM
Is anyone looking at Cuming in defense?
Not sure how he will score and considering the price it's probably not worth starting him. He would be one to look at if you trade Collins out if he flops
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 16, 2019, 11:46:05 AM
Is anyone looking at Cuming in defense?
He doesn’t get me that excited.
Quote from: enzedder on March 17, 2019, 07:22:59 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on March 16, 2019, 11:46:05 AM
Is anyone looking at Cuming in defense?
He doesn’t get me that excited.
*Defense doesn't get me that excited ::)
Settled on...
D- Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw, Duursma
M- Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins, Gibbons
R- Bines (wanted Clarke but have paid up on defensive rookies with better prospects)
F- Setterfield, Balta, Drew, Petruccelle
Left out Hore (questionable JS and lower PPM in JLT compared to Scrimshaw)...Parker (might have better JS over Petruccelle but that's questionable so Petruccelle gets the nod as he appears to have better/ quicker cash generation potential) and Burgess as although I will almost definitely start Moore the DPP isn't enough for me to want him. Last year I had Lachlan Keeffe and it was worth didly squat. Burgess looks like being a poor scorer in a bad team. If I need to swing Moore I'll make a call as trades allow it.
Quote from: enzedder on March 17, 2019, 09:20:43 AM
Settled on...
D- Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw, Duursma
M- Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins, Gibbons
R- Bines (wanted Clarke but have paid up on defensive rookies with better prospects)
F- Setterfield, Balta, Drew, Petruccelle
Left out Hore (questionable JS and lower PPM in JLT compared to Scrimshaw)...Parker (might have better JS over Petruccelle but that's questionable so Petruccelle gets the nod as he appears to have better/ quicker cash generation potential) and Burgess as although I will almost definitely start Moore the DPP isn't enough for me to want him. Last year I had Lachlan Keeffe and it was worth didly squat. Burgess looks like being a poor scorer in a bad team. If I need to swing Moore I'll make a call as trades allow it.
Pretty much the exact same for me too. Only difference is I've gone with Burgess and am passing on Butters
Hopefully they all get named
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 17, 2019, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: enzedder on March 17, 2019, 09:20:43 AM
Settled on...
D- Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw, Duursma
M- Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins, Gibbons
R- Bines (wanted Clarke but have paid up on defensive rookies with better prospects)
F- Setterfield, Balta, Drew, Petruccelle
Left out Hore (questionable JS and lower PPM in JLT compared to Scrimshaw)...Parker (might have better JS over Petruccelle but that's questionable so Petruccelle gets the nod as he appears to have better/ quicker cash generation potential) and Burgess as although I will almost definitely start Moore the DPP isn't enough for me to want him. Last year I had Lachlan Keeffe and it was worth didly squat. Burgess looks like being a poor scorer in a bad team. If I need to swing Moore I'll make a call as trades allow it.
Pretty much the exact same for me too. Only difference is I've gone with Burgess and am passing on Butters
Hopefully they all get named
Hore over Scrimshaw, Hately over Gibbons, Parker over Petruccelle, and have Burgess as well to swing with Moore. If I had the cash, would go Petruccelle over Parker.
“Pre-season cult hero Noah Balta is unlikely to compete alongside Lynch and Jack Riewoldt up forward, meaning No.1 ruckman Toby Nankervis' deputy was unknown.â€
Quote from: SilverLion on March 09, 2019, 11:17:23 AM
Done this in previous years, seemed to be useful, thought I'd make a list of all the rookies with at a decent chance of playing rd. 1 for reference. (Walsh's price or cheaper, bolded the 124ks or less)
Will narrow the list to just confirmed players when the round 1 sides get named :)
If I'm forgetting anyone, or if anyone here is confirmed no chance lemme know and I'll amend it though.
Defence:
Keeffe 8) ($190,500)
(FWD) Rozee ($189,300)
Collins ($188,900)
Cumming ($173,700)
Scrimshaw ($149,800)
Clark ($144,300)
(MID) Duursma (130,800)
Wilkie ($124,900)
(FWD) Burgess ($123,900)
Jones ($123,900)
McKay ($123,900)
Joyce ($123,900)
Hore ($117,300)
Mids:
Walsh ($207,300)
Davies-Uniacke ($197,500)
B Smith ($180,300)
C Jones ($171,300)
Caldwell ($162,300)
Butters ($157,800)
Hately ($148,800)
Constable ($123,900)
Bewley ($117,300)
Hind ($117,300)
Hayes ($117,300)
Scott ($117,300)
Atkins ($112,900)
Gibbons ($102,400)
Rucks:
A Smith ($172,300)
Clarke ($142,600)
Fort ($117,300)
Forwards:
Lukosius ($202,800)
Polson 8) ($191,800)
Blakey ($166,800)
Lewis ($149,000)
(MID) Setterfield ($144,900)
(MID) Drew ($123,900)
Balta ($123,900)
Petrucelle ($123,900)
Parker ($117,300)
Updated
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 17, 2019, 12:24:26 PM
“Pre-season cult hero Noah Balta is unlikely to compete alongside Lynch and Jack Riewoldt up forward, meaning No.1 ruckman Toby Nankervis' deputy was unknown.â€
Where is this from?
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2019, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 17, 2019, 12:24:26 PM
“Pre-season cult hero Noah Balta is unlikely to compete alongside Lynch and Jack Riewoldt up forward, meaning No.1 ruckman Toby Nankervis' deputy was unknown.â€
Where is this from?
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-17/theres-no-doubt-about-that-dimma-on-lynch-in-the-ruck
Also:
"One of Balta or Callum Moore is set to partner Riewoldt in attack if Lynch fails to sufficiently recover in time for round one, Hardwick said."
Doesn't sound great
D- Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw, Duursma, Hore
M- Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Gibbons
R- Bines
F- Setterfield, Drew, Petruccelle, Burgess/Parker but leaning towards Burgess.
That's who I think I'll go with.
Joyce is a strong chance to play R1 given the injuries of Carlisle and Clavarino, Brown's suspension and Roberton announcing he'll miss all of 2019.
However I wouldn't be rushing to put him in your team after his -3 effort from 72% gametime in R16 last year.
St.Kilda's defence will have the top forwards licking their lips this year. At least the Saints have tightened things up somewhat, with one of last season's wooden spooners' delisted guys, in Sam Rowe.
Rowe or Joyce will play I think.
Quote from: enzedder on March 17, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
Joyce is a strong chance to play R1 given the injuries of Carlisle and Clavarino, Brown's suspension and Roberton announcing he'll miss all of 2019.
However I wouldn't be rushing to put him in your team after his -3 effort from 72% gametime in R16 last year.
St.Kilda's defence will have the top forwards licking their lips this year. At least the Saints have tightened things up somewhat, with one of last season's wooden spooners' delisted guys, in Sam Rowe.
Rowe or Joyce will play I think.
Apologies in advance as this probably isn't the right section...
NZ as a Saints supporter can you provide some insight into the Saints' thinking with their backs?
In my mind Savage, Geary, Webster and NBrown will be 4 locked for them every week (personally, I think Brown is shower, but reckon they'll play him coz he's experienced).
The 2 remaining spots then would be open to:
Battle, Joyce, Wilkie, Coffield, Marsh, Rowe, Austin and Rice (maybe Clark too, but he can play mid as well?)
After hearing about Carlisle and now Roberton, I thought Austin and Battle would be the walk-up replacements for them, with probably Joyce covering for NBrown in round 1. However Austin didn't play in the JLT (recovering from Injury, but played in the VFL?) and with all the options available, is Battle certain to get named rd. 1?
What exactly does the Saints best available back 6 look like in 2019? Are Wilkie and Joyce ahead of Battle/Austin/Rowe etc.?
Brown is the only KPD so they're going to need at least one, if not two more
Joyce, Rowe are KPD replacements
Austin and Marsh can play KPD but only as the third option when needed
Wilkie, Battle are rebounders like Savage and Webster
Rice is similar to Geary
That said, Joyce plays round 1 for sure replacing Brown, and when he comes back Round 2 you'd think 2 of Brown/Joyce/Rowe play as their key backs, Geary as the small and 3 of Savage, Webster, Marsh, Battle play
Rice and Austin depth
Just my take
Either way, I'm not touching any of them and just avoiding all together
Quote from: SilverLion on March 17, 2019, 02:34:36 PM
Quote from: enzedder on March 17, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
Joyce is a strong chance to play R1 given the injuries of Carlisle and Clavarino, Brown's suspension and Roberton announcing he'll miss all of 2019.
However I wouldn't be rushing to put him in your team after his -3 effort from 72% gametime in R16 last year.
St.Kilda's defence will have the top forwards licking their lips this year. At least the Saints have tightened things up somewhat, with one of last season's wooden spooners' delisted guys, in Sam Rowe.
Rowe or Joyce will play I think.
Apologies in advance as this probably isn't the right section...
NZ as a Saints supporter can you provide some insight into the Saints' thinking with their backs?
In my mind Savage, Geary, Webster and NBrown will be 4 locked for them every week (personally, I think Brown is shower, but reckon they'll play him coz he's experienced).
The 2 remaining spots then would be open to:
Battle, Joyce, Wilkie, Coffield, Marsh, Rowe, Austin and Rice (maybe Clark too, but he can play mid as well?)
After hearing about Carlisle and now Roberton, I thought Austin and Battle would be the walk-up replacements for them, with probably Joyce covering for NBrown in round 1. However Austin didn't play in the JLT (recovering from Injury, but played in the VFL?) and with all the options available, is Battle certain to get named rd. 1?
What exactly does the Saints best available back 6 look like in 2019? Are Wilkie and Joyce ahead of Battle/Austin/Rowe etc.?
It's a sad state of affairs.
Brown wouldn't get a game at the vast majority of clubs, yet he is vital given our list and injuries. He'll come straight back in after his suspension. Geary would be locked into the best 6 defenders, though there are unconfirmed rumours he has done his calf as well, so possibly he's out too. Roberton and Carlisle are two of our top 6 players regardless of positon.
Anyway, the best available back 6 in 2019 may be... Geary (if available), Brown (round 3 onwards), Savage, Webster and then it's a crapshoot. So you have as much idea as me. For me I'd pick Joyce, Coffield and Rice, though McKenzie and Newnes are able to play defensively as well as wing or midfield. It's muddy.
Joyce will be found out I think. He could be named R1 but I don't think he'll be the answer.
Austin should be able to hold the fort in one of the key positions, but the fact that we've grabbed Marsh and Rowe doesn't exactly scream that the club sees him as Mr.Fixit.
Marsh hasn't played since R23 2016 so he doesn't seem a best 6 defender. Back up. So maybe he plays. Horrifying!
Rowe at least played 17 games for last year's wooden spooners who conceded more points against than any other club. Not ideal...and he was delisted.
McCartin's concussion worries and the clouds of uncertainty that come with it may mean Battle may have to play forward.
Clavarino was tracking well and his recent injury has almost certainly cost him a R1 debut given what else has unfolded. He'll be given a crack when available but may have to wait till midway through the season.
RD's take is about on the money as it could be.
I'm not touching any of them either.
He’s got a lot of work to do (Including conditioning) Alastair Clarkson on Jack Scrimshaw via Twitter.
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 18, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
He’s got a lot of work to do (Including conditioning) Alastair Clarkson on Jack Scrimshaw via Twitter.
Never been in my side, wasnt confident he'd play rd1
Quote from: GoLions on March 18, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 18, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
He’s got a lot of work to do (Including conditioning) Alastair Clarkson on Jack Scrimshaw via Twitter.
Never been in my side, wasnt confident he'd play rd1
Quote from: Nige on March 18, 2019, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: GoLions on March 18, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 18, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
He’s got a lot of work to do (Including conditioning) Alastair Clarkson on Jack Scrimshaw via Twitter.
Never been in my side, wasnt confident he'd play rd1
a 144k placeholder who won’t play is better than a 117k placeholder
hore who won’t either ;)
Quote from: TomK on March 18, 2019, 12:00:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 18, 2019, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: GoLions on March 18, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 18, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
He’s got a lot of work to do (Including conditioning) Alastair Clarkson on Jack Scrimshaw via Twitter.
Never been in my side, wasnt confident he'd play rd1
a 144k placeholder who won’t play is better than a 117k placeholder hore who won’t either ;)
Stfu you filthy hore
Quote from: TomK on March 18, 2019, 12:00:16 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 18, 2019, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: GoLions on March 18, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 18, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
He’s got a lot of work to do (Including conditioning) Alastair Clarkson on Jack Scrimshaw via Twitter.
Never been in my side, wasnt confident he'd play rd1
a 144k placeholder who won’t play is better than a 117k placeholder hore who won’t either ;)
The difference got me Brad Crouch. 8)
Filthy Scrimshaw
So judging by Hardwicks words I wouldn't be going with Balta. Sounds like he's still very raw and has a lot to learn in relation to game plan etc. think I'll pass on him for now
Quote from: quinny88 on March 18, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
So judging by Hardwicks words I wouldn't be going with Balta. Sounds like he's still very raw and has a lot to learn in relation to game plan etc. think I'll pass on him for now
Just saw this too
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-18/teenage-beast-the-closest-thing-to-rance-in-mix-for-tiger-debut
Even if he does debut, based off those comments zero chance I start him now
Quote from: quinny88 on March 18, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
So judging by Hardwicks words I wouldn't be going with Balta. Sounds like he's still very raw and has a lot to learn in relation to game plan etc. think I'll pass on him for now
atleast its a thursday game, unlike sunday rookies sitting on extended benches
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 18, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
So judging by Hardwicks words I wouldn't be going with Balta. Sounds like he's still very raw and has a lot to learn in relation to game plan etc. think I'll pass on him for now
Just saw this too
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-18/teenage-beast-the-closest-thing-to-rance-in-mix-for-tiger-debut
Even if he does debut, based off those comments zero chance I start him now
What do you think of Petrucelles JS?
Quote from: quinny88 on March 18, 2019, 04:51:54 PM
What do you think of Petrucelles JS?
I think it's pretty good tbh
Allen might get a game for us but that's if JJK misses
Petruccelle is taking the LeCras/Cripps role, and from all reports he's in the box seat to get a good crack at it
Very comfortable picking him for a bench spot - wouldn't want to field him every week
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 04:53:37 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 18, 2019, 04:51:54 PM
What do you think of Petrucelles JS?
I think it's pretty good tbh
Allen might get a game for us but that's if JJK misses
Petruccelle is taking the LeCras/Cripps role, and from all reports he's in the box seat to get a good crack at it
Very comfortable picking him for a bench spot - wouldn't want to field him every week
Sounds good! Easy replacement for Balta on my bench then
Quote from: frenzy on March 18, 2019, 04:43:51 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 18, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
So judging by Hardwicks words I wouldn't be going with Balta. Sounds like he's still very raw and has a lot to learn in relation to game plan etc. think I'll pass on him for now
atleast its a thursday game, unlike sunday rookies sitting on extended benches
Not exactly, seeing as the issue would be more regarding him playing Rd2 if he's in for Lynch in Rd1.
Quote from: GoLions on March 18, 2019, 04:55:12 PM
Quote from: frenzy on March 18, 2019, 04:43:51 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 18, 2019, 04:24:51 PM
So judging by Hardwicks words I wouldn't be going with Balta. Sounds like he's still very raw and has a lot to learn in relation to game plan etc. think I'll pass on him for now
atleast its a thursday game, unlike sunday rookies sitting on extended benches
Not exactly, seeing as the issue would be more regarding him playing Rd2 if he's in for Lynch in Rd1.
yeahbut, lol rookies named and not making the final cut will suck. So I'll do a RD and say even if he's named, I won't pick him and just pick him up on the bubble. He could do a Higgins, not dropped since debut
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this
u want Collins at d5 imo
It would not surprise me at all to see Marsh named for the saints. Hasn't played at the top level since 2016 BUT has been playing a decent grade of footy.
In the month of June, the year he was drafted by the Pies, I remember reading an article he would go in the top 15 kids in the nation.
When he was at the Pies I liked the little I saw in him but he never really got a good go at it.
Hope he grabs this second chance he has been given.
Quote from: HoleMeal on March 18, 2019, 05:37:05 PM
It would not surprise me at all to see Marsh named for the saints. Hasn't played at the top level since 2016 BUT has been playing a decent grade of footy.
In the month of June, the year he was drafted by the Pies, I remember reading an article he would go in the top 15 kids in the nation.
When he was at the Pies I liked the little I saw in him but he never really got a good go at it.
Hope he grabs this second chance he has been given.
pass, Brown is back round 2
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: HoleMeal on March 18, 2019, 05:37:05 PM
It would not surprise me at all to see Marsh named for the saints. Hasn't played at the top level since 2016 BUT has been playing a decent grade of footy.
In the month of June, the year he was drafted by the Pies, I remember reading an article he would go in the top 15 kids in the nation.
When he was at the Pies I liked the little I saw in him but he never really got a good go at it.
Hope he grabs this second chance he has been given.
pass, Brown is back round 2
Two completely different players. Brown returning shouldn't impact Marsh at all
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this
u want Collins at d5 imo
Collins at d7 for me today, chucking Scrimshaw on the scrapheap
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this
u want Collins at d5 imo
If Collins is at D5, isn't there a second rookie at D6?
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 18, 2019, 06:14:24 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this
u want Collins at d5 imo
If Collins is at D5, isn't there a second rookie at D6?
most dont consider Collins a rookie
I'd rather play an extra rookie on field than a trap like Brodie Smith or Ridley or something..
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 06:20:20 PM
... most dont consider Collins a rookie
Well stone the crows and pull my beard and call me Honey!
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this
u want Collins at d5 imo
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)
I’m pretty content on this set up.
All seem to have relatively good job security.
Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.
Quote from: imjusflexin on March 18, 2019, 06:24:08 PM
I'd rather play an extra rookie on field than a trap like Brodie Smith or Ridley or something..
^^
Not saying they will be traps... but the prospect of a trap.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 18, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)
I’m pretty content on this set up.
All seem to have relatively good job security.
Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.
^^
But Collins for Scrimshaw pending teams
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 18, 2019, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 06:20:20 PM
... most dont consider Collins a rookie
Well stone the crows and pull my beard and call me Honey!
I see that he's a "mature aged state-league concession" ...wtf?
b smith probably averages 40 more then most defender rookies who generally average 40-50 good luck find8ing better use for that 150-200k
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
b smith probably averages 40 more then most defender rookies who generally average 40-50 good luck find8ing better use for that 150-200k
... but surely very few would put such a low scoring rookie on field?
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 18, 2019, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
b smith probably averages 40 more then most defender rookies who generally average 40-50 good luck find8ing better use for that 150-200k
... but surely very few would put such a low scoring rookie on field?
even clark or duur will score below 50 often they will be onfield in many teams
Quote from: Money Shot on March 18, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this
u want Collins at d5 imo
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)
I’m pretty content on this set up.
All seem to have relatively good job security.
Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.
lol
How can Scrimshaw have good job security after Clarko's comments today? And Hore doesn't have good JS whatsoever.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 07:19:14 PM
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 18, 2019, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
b smith probably averages 40 more then most defender rookies who generally average 40-50 good luck find8ing better use for that 150-200k
... but surely very few would put such a low scoring rookie on field?
even clark or duur will score below 50 often they will be onfield in many teams
May I ask your FWD setup? if you have Grundy & Gawn? How many premo mids you have? Sure ideally we'd all like less DEF rookies on field but it's not like the other positions have great rookie options jumping out to be picked and there's only so much $$ to go around.
EDIT: Just had a go at turning Hore into Smith.. had to downgrade Fyfe & Conigs to M. Crouch & Steele... don't like it.
Quote from: imjusflexin on March 18, 2019, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 07:19:14 PM
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 18, 2019, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
b smith probably averages 40 more then most defender rookies who generally average 40-50 good luck find8ing better use for that 150-200k
... but surely very few would put such a low scoring rookie on field?
even clark or duur will score below 50 often they will be onfield in many teams
May I ask your FWD setup? if you have Grundy & Gawn? How many premo mids you have? Sure ideally we'd all like less DEF rookies on field but it's not like the other positions have great rookie options jumping out to be picked and there's only so much $$ to go around.
EDIT: Just had a go at turning Hore into Smith.. had to downgrade Fyfe & Conigs to M. Crouch & Steele... don't like it.
i have Libba at M5 and Moore at F4, i think Libba/B Crouch at m6 then Walsh at M7 is crazy to
rather field 3 mid rookies including Walsh then 2 or 3 defender rookies
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: imjusflexin on March 18, 2019, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 07:19:14 PM
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 18, 2019, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
b smith probably averages 40 more then most defender rookies who generally average 40-50 good luck find8ing better use for that 150-200k
... but surely very few would put such a low scoring rookie on field?
even clark or duur will score below 50 often they will be onfield in many teams
May I ask your FWD setup? if you have Grundy & Gawn? How many premo mids you have? Sure ideally we'd all like less DEF rookies on field but it's not like the other positions have great rookie options jumping out to be picked and there's only so much $$ to go around.
EDIT: Just had a go at turning Hore into Smith.. had to downgrade Fyfe & Conigs to M. Crouch & Steele... don't like it.
i have Libba at M5 and Moore at F4, i think Libba/B Crouch at m6 then Walsh at M7 is crazy to
rather field 3 mid rookies including Walsh then 2 or 3 defender rookies
I guess it's as simple as I'd rather have Coniglio than Libba at M5. Even if it means a rookie instead of B. Smith.
In the end, these are the same debates everyone's having with themselves... which if any mid-pricers, how many rookies on each line etc.
Let's just get to flowerin thursday already aye
Quote from: TomK on March 18, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 18, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this
u want Collins at d5 imo
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)
I’m pretty content on this set up.
All seem to have relatively good job security.
Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.
lol
How can Scrimshaw have good job security after Clarko's comments today? And Hore doesn't have good JS whatsoever.
+1
Scrimshaw/Hore both seem to be very dicey selections. I'd have 1 at most in the side for now - need a backup plan to bring in Collins/Marsh just in case
I'm not touching Hore - absolute trap I reckon. Of course I could be wrong, but if he has 2 good rounds then I'll bring him in, but I don't think that's going to happen
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 18, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 18, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this
u want Collins at d5 imo
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)
I’m pretty content on this set up.
All seem to have relatively good job security.
Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.
lol
How can Scrimshaw have good job security after Clarko's comments today? And Hore doesn't have good JS whatsoever.
+1
Scrimshaw/Hore both seem to be very dicey selections. I'd have 1 at most in the side for now - need a backup plan to bring in Collins/Marsh just in case
I'm not touching Hore - absolute trap I reckon. Of course I could be wrong, but if he has 2 good rounds then I'll bring him in, but I don't think that's going to happen
I don't like scrimshaw or hore either, if Ben McKay gets a gig, I'll be jumping on. I don't think he did too badly in the JLT series
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: imjusflexin on March 18, 2019, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 07:19:14 PM
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 18, 2019, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
b smith probably averages 40 more then most defender rookies who generally average 40-50 good luck find8ing better use for that 150-200k
... but surely very few would put such a low scoring rookie on field?
even clark or duur will score below 50 often they will be onfield in many teams
May I ask your FWD setup? if you have Grundy & Gawn? How many premo mids you have? Sure ideally we'd all like less DEF rookies on field but it's not like the other positions have great rookie options jumping out to be picked and there's only so much $$ to go around.
EDIT: Just had a go at turning Hore into Smith.. had to downgrade Fyfe & Conigs to M. Crouch & Steele... don't like it.
i have Libba at M5 and Moore at F4, i think Libba/B Crouch at m6 then Walsh at M7 is crazy to
rather field 3 mid rookies including Walsh then 2 or 3 defender rookies
Don’t think we have enough mid rookies myself
What about Darragh Joyce? any thoughts? spud?
Spose Brown takes his spot when back from suspension if named?
Quote from: Football Factory on March 18, 2019, 08:46:39 PM
What about Darragh Joyce? any thoughts? spud?
Spose Brown takes his spot when back from suspension if named?
Page 44 :)
Really not sold on Duursma. Just scared how slender he is. He's what I think of when I think "trap". And of course I'll probably end up starting him.
Quote from: batt on March 18, 2019, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on March 18, 2019, 08:46:39 PM
What about Darragh Joyce? any thoughts? spud?
Spose Brown takes his spot when back from suspension if named?
Page 44 :)
Really not sold on Duursma. Just scared how slender he is. He's what I think of when I think "trap". And of course I'll probably end up starting him.
Dont feel bad i think most people will start with him
Quote from: batt on March 18, 2019, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on March 18, 2019, 08:46:39 PM
What about Darragh Joyce? any thoughts? spud?
Spose Brown takes his spot when back from suspension if named?
Page 44 :)
Really not sold on Duursma. Just scared how slender he is. He's what I think of when I think "trap". And of course I'll probably end up starting him.
Ahh cheers, yeah not exactly glowing reports ;D
Quote from: Fid on March 18, 2019, 08:36:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 18, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 18, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this
u want Collins at d5 imo
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)
I’m pretty content on this set up.
All seem to have relatively good job security.
Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.
lol
How can Scrimshaw have good job security after Clarko's comments today? And Hore doesn't have good JS whatsoever.
+1
Scrimshaw/Hore both seem to be very dicey selections. I'd have 1 at most in the side for now - need a backup plan to bring in Collins/Marsh just in case
I'm not touching Hore - absolute trap I reckon. Of course I could be wrong, but if he has 2 good rounds then I'll bring him in, but I don't think that's going to happen
I don't like scrimshaw or hore either, if Ben McKay gets a gig, I'll be jumping on. I don't think he did too badly in the JLT series
Mckay will play i reckon. His scoring might not b that great. With tarrant out i think he plays
It comes down to Hore or Frost out for May come Round 2 imo, Hore is much more athletic and May and Frost are much more like for like. Hore is basically playing Lever's role I'd think and offers more than Frost but that's just me. Guess you could say his JS is questionable.
As for Scrimshaw I think there's a spot for him Rd 1. Whether he stays in the team for a period of any longevity is another question which poses the $$ generation question. Clarko will be happy to swap and switch guys around to fill roles.
Duursma is a lock. 9 touches, 4 marks and a goal in JLT 1, turned that into 24 touches, 11 marks in the second JLT. Will get plenty of opportunity in a Port team looking for pace and guys that can break the lines.
Also hearing Tarrant is very close to playing Rd 1. Plus Scotty Thompson to come back Round 2, you'd be crazy to select McKay.
Where are we rating Burgess amongst all these options?
Thinking a slow burn, but JS would be pretty solid? Also (for me) can link with Moore
Trying to work out the bench between Duursma, Hore and Burgess..
Quote from: _wato on March 18, 2019, 09:55:18 PM
It comes down to Hore or Frost out for May come Round 2 imo, Hore is much more athletic and May and Frost are much more like for like. Hore is basically playing Lever's role I'd think and offers more than Frost but that's just me. Guess you could say his JS is questionable.
As for Scrimshaw I think there's a spot for him Rd 1. Whether he stays in the team for a period of any longevity is another question which poses the $$ generation question. Clarko will be happy to swap and switch guys around to fill roles.
Duursma is a lock. 9 touches, 4 marks and a goal in JLT 1, turned that into 24 touches, 11 marks in the second JLT. Will get plenty of opportunity in a Port team looking for pace and guys that can break the lines.
Did you see the previous page with what Clarkson said about Scrimshaw?
Hore is a fair chance to get named, but whether his holds a spot - that's the tricky part. Might be best to watch and see, then grab him on the bubble if he warrants it
Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side
B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore
HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta
Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?
Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 10:13:13 PM
Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side
B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore
HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta
Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?
Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them
I've already said, Frost is the guy who is more like for like for May to come back. If Hore does enough come Round 1 I think he offers more to the Dees than playing Frost who is 194cm. Hore stands at 189cm and is much more athletic.
O McDonald already stands at 196cm and May at 193cm. Add in TMac, Weidemann, Gawny and possibly Preuss I don't think they can take in THAT many guys.
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Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side
B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore
HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta
Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?
Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them
I've seen him named on the wing as well.
Steven May has to come back in round 2, but is anyone else around the corner?
My personal feeling is that Hore has taken Vince's spot, with May to come back in and take Lever's spot (or Frost gets the chop). Could be totally wrong though..
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 10:13:13 PM
Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side
B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore
HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta
Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?
Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them
I've already said, Frost is the guy who is more like for like for May to come back. If Hore does enough come Round 1 I think he offers more to the Dees than playing Frost who is 194cm. Hore stands at 189cm and is much more athletic.
O McDonald already stands at 196cm and May at 193cm. Add in TMac, Weidemann, Gawny and possibly Preuss I don't think they can take in THAT many guys.
Yeah I'm not asking about Frost - May takes his spot
Who is a threat to Hore? Frost isn't. Lever is out for a while, so other than possibly Jayden Hunt and Joel Smith, is anyone threatening Hore? Or is he actually a better pick than what Dees supporters seem to think?
Hunt and Smith were both trialled as forwards in JLT, think they'll be looking for spots up the other end of the ground personally.
As for Scrimshaw I'm of the same view as what was written on the AFL website today.
'Ex-Sun Jack Scrimshaw is the most likely debutant for Hawthorn's opening game of the season against the Crows. He's had an excellent summer and gathered 12 touches against the Tigers in the first term of their JLT clash. He still has work to do in terms of conditioning but has shown enough to earn an early call-up'
the lad stands at 193cm and 90kg's. Can put him on the back flank, wing, wherever. A lot of rookies need more work and extra conditioning but everybody knows that. Just don't know how secure his spot is. Hawks have quite an injury list in terms of their A grade talent.
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As for Scrimshaw I'm of the same view as what was written on the AFL website today.
'Ex-Sun Jack Scrimshaw is the most likely debutant for Hawthorn's opening game of the season against the Crows. He's had an excellent summer and gathered 12 touches against the Tigers in the first term of their JLT clash. He still has work to do in terms of conditioning but has shown enough to earn an early call-up'
the lad stands at 193cm and 90kg's. Can put him on the back flank, wing, wherever. A lot of rookies need more work and extra conditioning but everybody knows that. Just don't know how secure his spot is. Hawks have quite an injury list in terms of their A grade talent.
Not the worst placeholder to have though in defense until teams are names. I suspect he plays as well but If worse comes to worse and he isn't named it's an easy fix if other cheap options are named. I don't have Duursma in my current side so that for example could be a simple swap to make.
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ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this
u want Collins at d5 imo
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)
I’m pretty content on this set up.
All seem to have relatively good job security.
Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.
lol
How can Scrimshaw have good job security after Clarko's comments today? And Hore doesn't have good JS whatsoever.
+1
Scrimshaw/Hore both seem to be very dicey selections. I'd have 1 at most in the side for now - need a backup plan to bring in Collins/Marsh just in case
I'm not touching Hore - absolute trap I reckon. Of course I could be wrong, but if he has 2 good rounds then I'll bring him in, but I don't think that's going to happen
I don't like scrimshaw or hore either, if Ben McKay gets a gig, I'll be jumping on. I don't think he did too badly in the JLT series
Mckay will play i reckon. His scoring might not b that great. With tarrant out i think he plays
@Tomk I stand by my comments about Scrimshaw and Hore.
I reckon Lever is the only one who could take Hore’s spot but he is a while away and at 117k if he scores 60 or so most weeks which doesn’t seem unrealistic he will be a great bench option and make some decent cash before he is dropped.
As I said Scrimshaw the most concerning of the lot but I still reckon he plays round 1. If he plays well he holds his spot but if he doesn’t I’m sure there’s plenty of other blokes who could come in.
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Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side
B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore
HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta
Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?
Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them
I've already said, Frost is the guy who is more like for like for May to come back. If Hore does enough come Round 1 I think he offers more to the Dees than playing Frost who is 194cm. Hore stands at 189cm and is much more athletic.
O McDonald already stands at 196cm and May at 193cm. Add in TMac, Weidemann, Gawny and possibly Preuss I don't think they can take in THAT many guys.
Yeah I'm not asking about Frost - May takes his spot
Who is a threat to Hore? Frost isn't. Lever is out for a while, so other than possibly Jayden Hunt and Joel Smith, is anyone threatening Hore? Or is he actually a better pick than what Dees supporters seem to think?
I think a lot of us rated Smith and the coaches seemed to like him, but now that he's moved forward a spot has opened up. There is no genuine replacement so it looks like Hore may get first crack, but he hasn't exactly set the world on fire in JLT. If he doesn't play well i'd expect Hibberd to play a little taller with someone like Fritsch potentially rotating, and wait until Kolodjashnij (191cm) is ready who is 3 weeks away. Could also keep persisting with Hunt.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 10:13:13 PM
Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side
B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore
HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta
Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?
Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them
I've already said, Frost is the guy who is more like for like for May to come back. If Hore does enough come Round 1 I think he offers more to the Dees than playing Frost who is 194cm. Hore stands at 189cm and is much more athletic.
O McDonald already stands at 196cm and May at 193cm. Add in TMac, Weidemann, Gawny and possibly Preuss I don't think they can take in THAT many guys.
Yeah I'm not asking about Frost - May takes his spot
Who is a threat to Hore? Frost isn't. Lever is out for a while, so other than possibly Jayden Hunt and Joel Smith, is anyone threatening Hore? Or is he actually a better pick than what Dees supporters seem to think?
I think a lot of us rated Smith and the coaches seemed to like him, but now that he's moved forward a spot has opened up. There is no genuine replacement so it looks like Hore may get first crack, but he hasn't exactly set the world on fire in JLT. If he doesn't play well i'd expect Hibberd to play a little taller with someone like Fritsch potentially rotating, and wait until Kolodjashnij (191cm) is ready who is 3 weeks away. Could also keep persisting with Hunt.
What actually caused the fallout with hunt anyway? I thought he was a gun a couple of years ago and has blistering pace off half back
Dees supporter here.
My opinion is that Hore is in for Lever. Frost will be in for May for round 1.
Obviously if Hore stinks it up for weeks on end then he’s back to the VFL but otherwise his JS looks solid until Lever is back mid-season.
Thanks guys
That's what I've thought too, so I think I can actually put Hore in my side now
Certainly looks like he should be fine for a bench option, because like Ben says as long as he doesn't completely shower the bed he probably should be able to string a few games together
Kolodjashnij should also come in at some stage I would've thought.
Quote from: SilverLion on March 19, 2019, 09:14:56 AM
Kolodjashnij should also come in at some stage I would've thought.
Mac just said he is 3 weeks away
I'm sure he'll come back through the VFL anyway
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Kolodjashnij should also come in at some stage I would've thought.
KK on a wing will have no impact on Hore’s place in the team.
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Kolodjashnij should also come in at some stage I would've thought.
KK on a wing will have no impact on Hore’s place in the team.
You'd think they'd be cautious with him anyway, by the time he's in the senior team Hore will be ready to downgrade.
Whose everyone starting at M8 this week? Butters, Con or Scott? I think i'm gonna go Scott.
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Who's everyone starting at M8 this week? Butters, Con or Scott? I think i'm gonna go Scott.
Assuming Walsh is M7, yeah? I've got Butters at the moment but will likely change about 10 times...
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Who's everyone starting at M8 this week? Butters, Con or Scott? I think i'm gonna go Scott.
Assuming Walsh is M7, yeah? I've got Butters at the moment but will likely change about 10 times...
Yeah of course. I feel like Butters is your guy that costs 40k more so you feel inclined to start R1 cause you've paid up but ends up scoring less.
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Who's everyone starting at M8 this week? Butters, Con or Scott? I think i'm gonna go Scott.
Assuming Walsh is M7, yeah? I've got Butters at the moment but will likely change about 10 times...
Yeah of course. I feel like Butters is your guy that costs 40k more so you feel inclined to start R1 cause you've paid up but ends up scoring less.
You're probably right. Might even be a matchup thing for starters. You'd usually pick the rookie against GC, Carlton, or St Kilda but not against whoever ends up being the stingy teams this year. North has a friendlier matchup than Geelong and Port do.
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Who's everyone starting at M8 this week? Butters, Con or Scott? I think i'm gonna go Scott.
Assuming Walsh is M7, yeah? I've got Butters at the moment but will likely change about 10 times...
Yeah of course. I feel like Butters is your guy that costs 40k more so you feel inclined to start R1 cause you've paid up but ends up scoring less.
the Butters that went 91 and 82 in the JLT, :o not good enough to start?
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Who's everyone starting at M8 this week? Butters, Con or Scott? I think i'm gonna go Scott.
Assuming Walsh is M7, yeah? I've got Butters at the moment but will likely change about 10 times...
Yeah of course. I feel like Butters is your guy that costs 40k more so you feel inclined to start R1 cause you've paid up but ends up scoring less.
the Butters that went 91 and 82 in the JLT, :o not good enough to start?
Lets be real, he aint kicking 3 goals against Melb in Melb as a small forward. Scott also scored 89 SC in far less TOG that same game ;)
Constable, Scott, Atkins and Gibbons are my M8-M11 (not interested in Butters)
I think I’ll be starting Scott.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 19, 2019, 01:04:48 PM
Constable, Scott, Atkins and Gibbons are my M8-M11 (not interested in Butters)
I think I’ll be starting Scott
+1 same 4 for me and not interested in Butters either
Constable/Scott for M8 - leaning towards Constable first up
That said, if I need to restructure due to unexpected outs, then I might have to push Walsh back to M6 and field both of them at 7 and 8
Has Scott been confirmed has he? A lot of people assuming they will be starting him here
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Constable, Scott, Atkins and Gibbons are my M8-M11 (not interested in Butters)
I think I’ll be starting Scott
+1 same 4 for me and not interested in Butters either
Constable/Scott for M8 - leaning towards Constable first up
That said, if I need to restructure due to unexpected outs, then I might have to push Walsh back to M6 and field both of them at 7 and 8
Butters has far better JS than Constable/Atkins/Scott. When you say "you're not interested" is it cause you dont have an extra 40k left over right now? Would be pretty stupid to say you're not interested if you had the cash.
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Constable, Scott, Atkins and Gibbons are my M8-M11 (not interested in Butters)
I think I’ll be starting Scott
+1 same 4 for me and not interested in Butters either
Constable/Scott for M8 - leaning towards Constable first up
That said, if I need to restructure due to unexpected outs, then I might have to push Walsh back to M6 and field both of them at 7 and 8
Butters has far better JS than Constable/Atkins/Scott. When you say "you're not interested" is it cause you dont have an extra 40k left over right now? Would be pretty stupid to say you're not interested if you had the cash.
They're all just cash cows to me - I get a higher ROI on the cheaper guys, and I think most of them will match or score better than Butters
I think they all have similar JS. Butters might have better, but the others I feel should still be good enough for what I need
I think if Hately is named you got to go him. Big bodied and i reckon is ready for afl, should be able to hold up better then Butters the only issue is GWS v Port.
Quote from: Holz on March 19, 2019, 02:02:50 PM
I think if Hately is named you got to go him. Big bodied and i reckon is ready for afl, should be able to hold up better then Butters the only issue is GWS v Port.
And this too
I might need to drop a mid prem and bring in another rookie
If that's the case, it's Hately - Caldwell - Butters for me, in terms of those pricer options (Assuming GWS are full strength and 1 of them still gets named)
Don't hate the Butters pick, but just not one I am personally interested in
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Hinkley confirmed that Drew, Butters, Rozee and Duursma and debuting Round 1.
Imagine if someone said this weeks ago.
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Hinkley confirmed that Drew, Butters, Rozee and Duursma and debuting Round 1.
Imagine if someone said this weeks ago.
They would have been rubbished and booed out of the forums ;)
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Constable, Scott, Atkins and Gibbons are my M8-M11 (not interested in Butters)
I think I’ll be starting Scott
+1 same 4 for me and not interested in Butters either
Constable/Scott for M8 - leaning towards Constable first up
That said, if I need to restructure due to unexpected outs, then I might have to push Walsh back to M6 and field both of them at 7 and 8
Butters has far better JS than Constable/Atkins/Scott. When you say "you're not interested" is it cause you dont have an extra 40k left over right now? Would be pretty stupid to say you're not interested if you had the cash.
They're all just cash cows to me - I get a higher ROI on the cheaper guys, and I think most of them will match or score better than Butters
I think they all have similar JS. Butters might have better, but the others I feel should still be good enough for what I need
I think Constable and Scott are going to score higher than him. Atkins and Gibbons are heaps cheaper and have better JS in my opinion.
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Who's everyone starting at M8 this week? Butters, Con or Scott? I think i'm gonna go Scott.
Assuming Walsh is M7, yeah? I've got Butters at the moment but will likely change about 10 times...
Yeah of course. I feel like Butters is your guy that costs 40k more so you feel inclined to start R1 cause you've paid up but ends up scoring less.
the Butters that went 91 and 82 in the JLT, :o not good enough to start?
Lets be real, he aint kicking 3 goals against Melb in Melb as a small forward. Scott also scored 89 SC in far less TOG that same game ;)
I was looking at the adelaide game ( no goals and quality opposition ) but 16% extra against NM could be looked at as far more time on the ground. I think it's more a case of price $
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I think if Hately is named you got to go him. Big bodied and i reckon is ready for afl, should be able to hold up better then Butters the only issue is GWS v Port.
Did you watch the game? Or purely going off numbers.
Hop he plays for SuperCoach but personally he looked way off the speed of AFL level
Quote from: Money Shot on March 19, 2019, 02:53:30 PM
I think Constable and Scott are going to score higher than him. Atkins and Gibbons are heaps cheaper and have better JS in my opinion.
Gibbons maybe, not Atkins though, still lots of competition for spots at the Cats.
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I think if Hately is named you got to go him. Big bodied and i reckon is ready for afl, should be able to hold up better then Butters the only issue is GWS v Port.
Did you watch the game? Or purely going off numbers.
Hop he plays for SuperCoach but personally he looked way off the speed of AFL level
Its purely body type, absolutely nothing to do with JLT.
Butters 181cm 70kg
Hately 190cm 83kg
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I think if Hately is named you got to go him. Big bodied and i reckon is ready for afl, should be able to hold up better then Butters the only issue is GWS v Port.
Did you watch the game? Or purely going off numbers.
Hop he plays for SuperCoach but personally he looked way off the speed of AFL level
Its purely body type, absolutely nothing to do with JLT.
Butters 181cm 70kg
Hately 190cm 83kg
Ok.
LDU was body type ready for the afl as well.
Still not up to speed with the afl
Butters is infinitely more ready for afl imo.
Also imo if any supercoacher is not starting butters they have a screw loose in the brain. I know you will be starting him. You are not that stupid haha
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I think if Hately is named you got to go him. Big bodied and i reckon is ready for afl, should be able to hold up better then Butters the only issue is GWS v Port.
Did you watch the game? Or purely going off numbers.
Hop he plays for SuperCoach but personally he looked way off the speed of AFL level
Its purely body type, absolutely nothing to do with JLT.
Butters 181cm 70kg
Hately 190cm 83kg
Ok.
LDU was body type ready for the afl as well.
Still not up to speed with the afl
Butters is infinitely more ready for afl imo.
Also imo if any supercoacher is not starting butters they have a screw loose in the brain. I know you will be starting him. You are not that stupid haha
at the moment i only have the cash for one of them. if hately isnt named then its easy,
Hately performances in the SANFL where very impressive along with the Under 18 champs.
dont get me wrong i like butters i just prefer Hately as a player, if hately was at Port then i think he would be the #1 rookie to have (above walsh)
Not exactly a rookie but thoughts on Ridley?
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Not exactly a rookie but thoughts on Ridley?
basically a mature aged rookie (being 20 years old with 3 afl games)
but not priced like a mature aged rookie
so pass.
Dew has confirmed Burgess is playing this week
Quote from: Nige on December 23, 2018, 11:46:33 AM
Anyone expecting Burgess to line up Round 1 is gonna have a bad time.
Just deflating the head following the Power announcement... :D
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Dew has confirmed Burgess is playing this week
reference?
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Dew has confirmed Burgess is playing this week
reference?
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-19/suns-star-recruit-almost-certain-to-get-chance-to-shine
It's confirmed now Bailey Smith will debut this weekend
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It's confirmed now Bailey Smith will debut this weekend
reference?
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Quote from: Ricochet on March 19, 2019, 06:51:43 PM
It's confirmed now Bailey Smith will debut this weekend
reference?
https://twitter.com/search?q=bailey%20smith&src=typd
I was wondering if anyone has any sc stats for the rookies from their under 18 championship/from last year just to have a bit of more of an understanding of what some of the rookies were capable of.
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2019, 06:55:28 PM
I was wondering if anyone has any sc stats for the rookies from their under 18 championship/from last year just to have a bit of more of an understanding of what some of the rookies were capable of.
Generally found in the Prospectus ...
Quote from: smashbox on March 19, 2019, 05:19:20 PM
Not exactly a rookie but thoughts on Ridley?
have a feeling he will be on a few more radars after the teams drop. Has been in and out of my side.
for what its worth
ridley > brodie smith (better value for selection but not necessarily points)
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Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2019, 06:55:28 PM
I was wondering if anyone has any sc stats for the rookies from their under 18 championship/from last year just to have a bit of more of an understanding of what some of the rookies were capable of.
Generally found in the Prospectus ...
too bad i dont have it
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2019, 06:55:28 PM
I was wondering if anyone has any sc stats for the rookies from their under 18 championship/from last year just to have a bit of more of an understanding of what some of the rookies were capable of.
https://twitter.com/championdata/status/1065833297652068353
https://twitter.com/championdata/status/1065844516471496705
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2019, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 19, 2019, 06:58:33 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2019, 06:55:28 PM
I was wondering if anyone has any sc stats for the rookies from their under 18 championship/from last year just to have a bit of more of an understanding of what some of the rookies were capable of.
Generally found in the Prospectus ...
too bad i dont have it
Still in the shops.
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Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2019, 06:55:28 PM
I was wondering if anyone has any sc stats for the rookies from their under 18 championship/from last year just to have a bit of more of an understanding of what some of the rookies were capable of.
Generally found in the Prospectus ...
The Sacred texts
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Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2019, 06:55:28 PM
I was wondering if anyone has any sc stats for the rookies from their under 18 championship/from last year just to have a bit of more of an understanding of what some of the rookies were capable of.
https://twitter.com/championdata/status/1065833297652068353
https://twitter.com/championdata/status/1065844516471496705
thanks mate, good stats
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Anyone expecting Burgess to line up Round 1 is gonna have a bad time.
Just deflating the head following the Power announcement... :D
Well, I guess that didn’t age well. Evidence shows he’ll score poorly though so bad times with Burgess is still a go. :P
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Quote from: js19 on March 19, 2019, 06:16:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 23, 2018, 11:46:33 AM
Anyone expecting Burgess to line up Round 1 is gonna have a bad time.
Just deflating the head following the Power announcement... :D
Well, I guess that didn’t age well. Evidence shows he’ll score poorly though so bad times with Burgess is still a go. :P
the age old debate, a non playing rookie who cannot put on weight versus the hard gainer that takes forever. the non playing rookie opens up loopholes occasionally versus getting some cash eventually for the other option.
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I think if Hately is named you got to go him. Big bodied and i reckon is ready for afl, should be able to hold up better then Butters the only issue is GWS v Port.
Did you watch the game? Or purely going off numbers.
Hop he plays for SuperCoach but personally he looked way off the speed of AFL level
Its purely body type, absolutely nothing to do with JLT.
Butters 181cm 70kg
Hately 190cm 83kg
Ok.
LDU was body type ready for the afl as well.
Still not up to speed with the afl
Butters is infinitely more ready for afl imo.
Also imo if any supercoacher is not starting butters they have a screw loose in the brain. I know you will be starting him. You are not that stupid haha
The same butters that missed TAC games because of shoulder injuries and then had both shoulders taped up during JLT? no thanks.
Quote from: Ricochet on March 19, 2019, 06:51:43 PM
It's confirmed now Bailey Smith will debut this weekend
Will take huge guts but im considering bailey.
Was my favourite player on draft night. Had a limited preseason but could start pumping out walsh like numbers after a few rounds and give a real leg up on teams wirh butters.
Quote from: Holz on March 19, 2019, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on March 19, 2019, 06:51:43 PM
It's confirmed now Bailey Smith will debut this weekend
Will take huge guts but im considering bailey.
Was my favourite player on draft night. Had a limited preseason but could start pumping out walsh like numbers after a few rounds and give a real leg up on teams wirh butters.
Agreed like him a lot .... 10k short atm
wonder if its smart starting bailey if ur starting libba and macrae to
so atleast bailey plays if libba or macrae miss etc
im starting hately with conigs for same reason
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 20, 2019, 08:37:26 AM
wonder if its smart starting bailey if ur starting libba and macrae to
so atleast bailey plays if libba or macrae miss etc
im starting hately with conigs for same reason
You dont pay 180k or 150k for either if you dony think both play with all those guys healthy.
Having macrae or libba should not influence your decision on smith
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Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 20, 2019, 08:37:26 AM
wonder if its smart starting bailey if ur starting libba and macrae to
so atleast bailey plays if libba or macrae miss etc
im starting hately with conigs for same reason
You dont pay 180k or 150k for either if you dony think both play with all those guys healthy.
Having macrae or libba should not influence your decision on smith
Exactly this^
dont misunderstand me i never said i dont expect baley to play with them
i expect him to play with them
but if one of libba/macrae misses then less chance sbaley might get dropped if he had a bad game maybe
why would i start him if i dont expect him to play with libba and macrae
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 20, 2019, 09:21:47 AM
dont misunderstand me i never said i dont expect baley to play with them
i expect him to play with them
but if one of libba/macrae misses then less chance sbaley might get dropped if he had a bad game maybe
why would i start him if i dont expect him to play with libba and macrae
It shouldn't influence your decision at all.
Quote from: Holz on March 20, 2019, 09:23:46 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 20, 2019, 09:21:47 AM
dont misunderstand me i never said i dont expect baley to play with them
i expect him to play with them
but if one of libba/macrae misses then less chance sbaley might get dropped if he had a bad game maybe
why would i start him if i dont expect him to play with libba and macrae
It shouldn't influence your decision at all.
If say Libba gets a 3 week injury and someone comes in for him and performs well, then when he returns Smith could easily be dropped. Basically if Smith goes well then he'll hold his spot, if he doesn't then he'll get dropped. Macrae and Libba won't change that.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 20, 2019, 09:21:47 AM
dont misunderstand me i never said i dont expect baley to play with them
i expect him to play with them
but if one of libba/macrae misses then less chance sbaley might get dropped if he had a bad game maybe
why would i start him if i dont expect him to play with libba and macrae
Think what you say has merit.
Less chance to be dropped plus potentially more scoring potential as well.
With caldwell out for a few weeks surely that makes Hately a lock.
Butters > Smith is tempting. Get rid of Gibbons
I found an extra $110k. By fielding Duursma over Ridley.
Brayshaw > Dusty
One of gibbons Atkins Scott Constable > bailey smith.
Walsh and butters non Negotiable starters for me.
Happy days.
Quote from: eaglesman on March 20, 2019, 11:29:29 AM
I found an extra $110k. By fielding Duursma over Ridley.
Brayshaw > Dusty
One of gibbons Atkins Scott Constable > bailey smith.
Walsh and butters non Negotiable starters for me.
Happy days.
Nice. I'm going hately over smith as I see similar scoring and with Caldwell out hoping Hately gets a real good run at it like Taranto did.
Walsh, Butters, Hately, Constable, Scott my mid rooks. Atkins and Gibbons are cheap but that small forward role does nothing for me. If Gibbons somehow does something incredible can always DG as he is basement price.
Quote from: _wato on March 20, 2019, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 20, 2019, 11:29:29 AM
I found an extra $110k. By fielding Duursma over Ridley.
Brayshaw > Dusty
One of gibbons Atkins Scott Constable > bailey smith.
Walsh and butters non Negotiable starters for me.
Happy days.
Nice. I'm going hately over smith as I see similar scoring and with Caldwell out hoping Hately gets a real good run at it like Taranto did.
Walsh, Butters, Hately, Constable, Scott my mid rooks. Atkins and Gibbons are cheap but that small forward role does nothing for me. If Gibbons somehow does something incredible can always DG as he is basement price.
Look if hateley is named the I agree I’ll drop both Atkins and gibbons and take smith and hateley with Walsh butters Scott and Constable
Anyone looking back at Gibbons now that Fasolo's going to play as well? Does that push Gibbons into the mids or at least the flank?
Quote from: LaHug on March 20, 2019, 11:53:06 AM
Anyone looking back at Gibbons now that Fasolo's going to play as well? Does that push Gibbons into the mids or at least the flank?
don't really care about his role for his price
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Quote from: LaHug on March 20, 2019, 11:53:06 AM
Anyone looking back at Gibbons now that Fasolo's going to play as well? Does that push Gibbons into the mids or at least the flank?
don't really care about his role for his price
+1
All he needs is one decent game 70+ which doesn’t seem impossible. And he’ll make decent money. Locked at M11.
I think Gibbons will still play predomitely forward for what it’s worth.
Thoughts on James Cousins at rookie price? Seems destined from JLT to start in midfield for hawks and Clarkson in AFL interview has gone on to say him and Worpel will get chance in midfield with T Mitch out
Quote from: RichoMan94 on March 20, 2019, 01:55:26 PM
Thoughts on James Cousins at rookie price? Seems destined from JLT to start in midfield for hawks and Clarkson in AFL interview has gone on to say him and Worpel will get chance in midfield with T Mitch out
I've got him in RDT but can't find the funds to get him in for SC.
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Quote from: RichoMan94 on March 20, 2019, 01:55:26 PM
Thoughts on James Cousins at rookie price? Seems destined from JLT to start in midfield for hawks and Clarkson in AFL interview has gone on to say him and Worpel will get chance in midfield with T Mitch out
I've got him in RDT but can't find the funds to get him in for SC.
I feel like to have Cousins you'd almost have to have him in place for either Walsh or Libba. Not going to replace Walsh, but can he get close to what Libba can do? If so you'd have to consider it... ???
Quote from: LaHug on March 20, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
Quote from: RichoMan94 on March 20, 2019, 01:55:26 PM
Thoughts on James Cousins at rookie price? Seems destined from JLT to start in midfield for hawks and Clarkson in AFL interview has gone on to say him and Worpel will get chance in midfield with T Mitch out
I've got him in RDT but can't find the funds to get him in for SC.
Gee he might be a better option than bailey smith ... forgot about him to be honest . Thanks for the reminder
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Thoughts on James Cousins at rookie price? Seems destined from JLT to start in midfield for hawks and Clarkson in AFL interview has gone on to say him and Worpel will get chance in midfield with T Mitch out
I've got him in RDT but can't find the funds to get him in for SC.
I feel like to have Cousins you'd almost have to have him in place for either Walsh or Libba. Not going to replace Walsh, but can he get close to what Libba can do? If so you'd have to consider it... ???
Had Cousins locked in at M6 but moved him and Moore out last night for Sheed and Hore.
Never liked having Moore and Sheed could possibly become a keeper.
Cousins does look like a good pick to me though.
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Thoughts on James Cousins at rookie price? Seems destined from JLT to start in midfield for hawks and Clarkson in AFL interview has gone on to say him and Worpel will get chance in midfield with T Mitch out
I've got him in RDT but can't find the funds to get him in for SC.
I feel like to have Cousins you'd almost have to have him in place for either Walsh or Libba. Not going to replace Walsh, but can he get close to what Libba can do? If so you'd have to consider it... ???
That'll be why I have him in RDT where BCrouch isn't as good value. I think I'd prefer Libba to Cousins tbh but it's an interesting conundrum.
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Thoughts on James Cousins at rookie price? Seems destined from JLT to start in midfield for hawks and Clarkson in AFL interview has gone on to say him and Worpel will get chance in midfield with T Mitch out
I've got him in RDT but can't find the funds to get him in for SC.
I feel like to have Cousins you'd almost have to have him in place for either Walsh or Libba. Not going to replace Walsh, but can he get close to what Libba can do? If so you'd have to consider it... ???
That'll be why I have him in RDT where BCrouch isn't as good value. I think I'd prefer Libba to Cousins tbh but it's an interesting conundrum.
I guess it would become closer to guns and rooks if Libba became Cousins, but the M5 position looks so much better with Libba there...
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Quote from: RichoMan94 on March 20, 2019, 01:55:26 PM
Thoughts on James Cousins at rookie price? Seems destined from JLT to start in midfield for hawks and Clarkson in AFL interview has gone on to say him and Worpel will get chance in midfield with T Mitch out
I've got him in RDT but can't find the funds to get him in for SC.
I feel like to have Cousins you'd almost have to have him in place for either Walsh or Libba. Not going to replace Walsh, but can he get close to what Libba can do? If so you'd have to consider it... ???
That'll be why I have him in RDT where BCrouch isn't as good value. I think I'd prefer Libba to Cousins tbh but it's an interesting conundrum.
I guess it would become closer to guns and rooks if Libba became Cousins, but the M5 position looks so much better with Libba there...
Here's one for you...
B Crouch (M5), Libba (M6), Constable (M9) or Dusty, Cousins, Gibbons? That's very guns and rooks all of a sudden but I could do that change...
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Quote from: RichoMan94 on March 20, 2019, 01:55:26 PM
Thoughts on James Cousins at rookie price? Seems destined from JLT to start in midfield for hawks and Clarkson in AFL interview has gone on to say him and Worpel will get chance in midfield with T Mitch out
I've got him in RDT but can't find the funds to get him in for SC.
I feel like to have Cousins you'd almost have to have him in place for either Walsh or Libba. Not going to replace Walsh, but can he get close to what Libba can do? If so you'd have to consider it... ???
That'll be why I have him in RDT where BCrouch isn't as good value. I think I'd prefer Libba to Cousins tbh but it's an interesting conundrum.
I guess it would become closer to guns and rooks if Libba became Cousins, but the M5 position looks so much better with Libba there...
Here's one for you...
B Crouch (M5), Libba (M6), Constable (M9) or Dusty, Cousins, Gibbons? That's very guns and rooks all of a sudden but I could do that change...
B.Crouch is too much of an injury risk which is why I would go the Dusty guns and rookies option, but B.Crouch is the value pick for sure if you are ok with the risk.
Found a way to get Cousins in without touching Walsh or Libba...
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Found a way to get Cousins in without touching Walsh or Libba...
I'll take it you don't have B Crouch as well?
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Found a way to get Cousins in without touching Walsh or Libba...
I'll take it you don't have B Crouch as well?
No, don't have B.Crouch. Libba M5, Cousins M6, Walsh M7
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Found a way to get Cousins in without touching Walsh or Libba...
I'll take it you don't have B Crouch as well?
No, don't have B.Crouch. Libba M5, Cousins M6, Walsh M7
Ah k. I prefer BCrouch, Libba, Walsh but I assume that makes you stronger on other lines
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Found a way to get Cousins in without touching Walsh or Libba...
I'll take it you don't have B Crouch as well?
No, don't have B.Crouch. Libba M5, Cousins M6, Walsh M7
Ah k. I prefer BCrouch, Libba, Walsh but I assume that makes you stronger on other lines
Yeah, I've gone stronger in the other lines only because I only wanted one of them. Have been tempted to upgrade Libba to another premo mid, but would have to change the structure a bit. I feel this way gives me a solid level of cash generation as well as good scoring.
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Found a way to get Cousins in without touching Walsh or Libba...
I'll take it you don't have B Crouch as well?
No, don't have B.Crouch. Libba M5, Cousins M6, Walsh M7
Ah k. I prefer BCrouch, Libba, Walsh but I assume that makes you stronger on other lines
Yeah, I've gone stronger in the other lines only because I only wanted one of them. Have been tempted to upgrade Libba to another premo mid, but would have to change the structure a bit. I feel this way gives me a solid level of cash generation as well as good scoring.
Yeah, I calculated the cash gen from my mid pricers at my predicted averages for them is enough that I can cull them the same way I would rookies and get more points in the process. Would lose out on trades if they all flop though. Early points game vs. potential trades loss but I'm gonna risk it for the biscuit
Balta gets a gig alongside Lynch and Jroo
Now I have to pick two of Balta, Petrucelle, Parker...
Quote from: LaHug on March 20, 2019, 06:29:11 PM
Now I have to pick two of Balta, Petrucelle, Parker...
I was all for not picking Balta, but the Richmond emergencies are trash and no real threat to Balta so I am tempted to start him now
I know Caddy returns in 4-5 weeks, but guys like Mav Weller could make way for him
Just need to decide if he is worth starting, or grab him in 2 weeks time if he looks good enough
Will probably start him over Parker, because Parker won't score well either way so can switch to Parker if Balta gets dropped later
Lachie Schultz and Brett Bewley are in the frame for selection for Fremantle’s opening round clash against North Melbourne at Optus Stadium on Sunday, according to senior coach Ross Lyon.
https://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2019-03-20/mature-age-duo-a-chance-for-r1-debut
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2019, 07:23:32 PM
Lachie Schultz and Brett Bewley are in the frame for selection for Fremantle’s opening round clash against North Melbourne at Optus Stadium on Sunday, according to senior coach Ross Lyon.
https://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2019-03-20/mature-age-duo-a-chance-for-r1-debut
"In the frame"? That just screams extended bench danger to me
I’m all aboard the Balta train again. Has decent scoring potential as he will pinch hit in the ruck. Looks good at F7. Petrucelle is out.
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Now I have to pick two of Balta, Petrucelle, Parker...
I was all for not picking Balta, but the Richmond emergencies are trash and no real threat to Balta so I am tempted to start him now
I know Caddy returns in 4-5 weeks, but guys like Mav Weller could make way for him
Just need to decide if he is worth starting, or grab him in 2 weeks time if he looks good enough
Will probably start him over Parker, because Parker won't score well either way so can switch to Parker if Balta gets dropped later
Have to start balta before Parker ... couldn’t agree more
Quote from: LaHug on March 20, 2019, 11:53:06 AM
Anyone looking back at Gibbons now that Fasolo's going to play as well? Does that push Gibbons into the mids or at least the flank?
He is in ahead of Cam Polson. Fas is probably holding out Silvagni/Polson as well. Surprised to see Garlett get a run in the back pocket to be honest.
Quote from: LaHug on March 20, 2019, 06:29:11 PM
Now I have to pick two of Balta, Petrucelle, Parker...
Easy, Balta and Parker. Especially with Lynch named
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Quote from: LaHug on March 20, 2019, 11:53:06 AM
Anyone looking back at Gibbons now that Fasolo's going to play as well? Does that push Gibbons into the mids or at least the flank?
He is in ahead of Cam Polson. Fas is probably holding out Silvagni/Polson as well. Surprised to see Garlett get a run in the back pocket to be honest.
Quote from: LaHug on March 20, 2019, 06:29:11 PM
Now I have to pick two of Balta, Petrucelle, Parker...
Petrucelle by a mile ahead of Parker boys
Easy, Balta and Parker. Especially with Lynch named
I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2019, 08:05:29 PM
I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
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I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
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I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2019, 08:05:29 PM
I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
That’s hilarious
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2019, 08:05:29 PM
I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
That’s hilarious
Sorry I'm not very good with the humour, could you please explain what's so funny?
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I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
That’s hilarious
+1
I think SL and GL are referring to when JJK and Darling have
sat down after they have 10 goals between them ... probably half way through the 3 term
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I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
That’s hilarious
+1
I think SL and GL are referring to when JJK and Darling have sat down after they have 10 goals between them ... probably half way through the 3 term
Such a typical bias WCE supporter response, honestly.
wce supporters, egos with no bounds. unfortunately i see them being top four again this season.
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I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
That’s hilarious
+1
I think SL and GL are referring to when JJK and Darling have sat down after they have 10 goals between them ... probably half way through the 3 term
Such a typical bias WCE supporter response, honestly.
If your mob get within 10 goals then you should be very very proud of your team.
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I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
That’s hilarious
+1
I think SL and GL are referring to when JJK and Darling have sat down after they have 10 goals between them ... probably half way through the 3 term
Such a typical bias WCE supporter response, honestly.
If your mob get within 10 goals then you should be very very proud of your team.
I think that West Coast will get up but I'd take a bet that Brisbane will be within 10 goals any day of the week. That's just blind arrogance.
Bewley and Schultz in the frame:
https://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2019-03-20/mature-age-duo-a-chance-for-r1-debut
Bailey Scott confirmed to debut:
https://twitter.com/NMFCOfficial/status/1108528434936844288
Is Bewley a must have if he gets named? I had written him off due to low minutes in the JLT thinking he wasn't in the frame but if he gets named that changes everything as he was the mid rookie I was most keen on all pre season
Quote from: quinny88 on March 21, 2019, 12:19:10 PM
Is Bewley a must have if he gets named? I had written him off due to low minutes in the JLT thinking he wasn't in the frame but if he gets named that changes everything as he was the mid rookie I was most keen on all pre season
My concern would be quite a few rookies have already been confirmed for rd1, whilst Bewley is only "in the frame". Even if named, JS can't be great...
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Quote from: quinny88 on March 21, 2019, 12:19:10 PM
Is Bewley a must have if he gets named? I had written him off due to low minutes in the JLT thinking he wasn't in the frame but if he gets named that changes everything as he was the mid rookie I was most keen on all pre season
My concern would be quite a few rookies have already been confirmed for rd1, whilst Bewley is only "in the frame". Even if named, JS can't be great...
This
We need to make some calls on which rookies we field, and which ones we bench
DEF: Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke, Duursma, Burgess, Hore
MID: Walsh, Butters, Hately, Constable, Scott, Bewley, Hind, Atkins, Gibbons
FED: Setters, Drew, Balta, Parker, Petrucelle
Assuming they all get named, who do we field, who do we bench and who do we pass on?
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 21, 2019, 12:24:46 PM
We need to make some calls on which rookies we field, and which ones we bench
DEF: Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke, Duursma, Burgess, Hore
MID: Walsh, Butters, Hately, Constable, Scott, Bewley, Hind, Atkins, Gibbons
FED: Setters, Drew, Balta, Parker, Petrucelle
Assuming they all get named, who do we field, who do we bench and who do we pass on?
Pass: Scrimshaw, Bewley, Parker, Gibbons, one of Hind/Atkins
Bench: Burgess, Hore, Hind/Atkins, Scott, Constable, Fettucine, Duursma/Balta
Field the rest (or at least i am)
Im gunna field scrimshaw clark if named. Duursma
Walsh and butters(will have gibbons atkins/constable scott on bench)
Settfield and drew up front
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Is Bewley a must have if he gets named? I had written him off due to low minutes in the JLT thinking he wasn't in the frame but if he gets named that changes everything as he was the mid rookie I was most keen on all pre season
My concern would be quite a few rookies have already been confirmed for rd1, whilst Bewley is only "in the frame". Even if named, JS can't be great...
Freo playing the last game on Sunday though so they probably aren't having their main training session till today. Plus it's Ross Lyon so he's never gonna be clear on it lol
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We need to make some calls on which rookies we field, and which ones we bench
DEF: Collins, Scrimshaw, Clarke, Duursma, Burgess, Hore
MID: Walsh, Butters, Hately, Constable, Scott, Bewley, Hind, Atkins, Gibbons
FED: Setters, Drew, Balta, Parker, Petrucelle
Assuming they all get named, who do we field, who do we bench and who do we pass on?
DEF: Collins playing lock down with Thompson injured worries me at the price in terms of scoring.
Scrimshaw JS is a real concern with Clarko
Burgess scoring will be poor at best
That leaves Duursma, Hore and Clark as locks for me, and I'll have pick one of the others.
MID: Walsh and Butters on field for me haven't decided the 3rd. Gibbons is a tempting price, but a small fwd role at Carlton isn't great for scoring, and there's plenty of other options, so I'll pass and see how he goes, downgrade rookie correction trade if needed.
Bewley could be great given he's mature age, but do we trust Ross and his TOG?
Constable and Scott are in for me, and one of Hately/Hind/Atkins.
FWD: Setterfield and Parker the only ones I'm confident on.
Drew has Wines coming back. Petrucelle has Cripps. I'm taking the punt on Balta and one of Drew/Petrucelle probably Drew.
I’m thinking to field:
D: Clark, not sure on Scrimshaw over Duursma for this week. Think the ball will be down back quite a bit for Hawks so he may get the pill a lot, but the crows fwds will pressure him. Thinking Duursma this round
M: Walsh, Constable
F: Drew and Setterfield, thinking Balta as well but will need to bench Drew, and not sure I want to bench him...
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I’m thinking to field:
D: Clark, not sure on Scrimshaw over Duursma for this week. Think the ball will be down back quite a bit for Hawks so he may get the pill a lot, but the crows fwds will pressure him. Thinking Duursma this round
M: Walsh, Constable
F: Drew and Setterfield, thinking Balta as well but will need to bench Drew, and not sure I want to bench him...
Yeah I'm having trouble deciding on Balta or Drew on field, at the moment I'm leaning towards Drew.
In mids I've decided to do something different and have Scott on field over Constable.
I’m very nervous about Balta JS. Lynch probably only needs 1-2 games before he can pinch hit in the ruck. Then Balta will be the first to go.
I see Petrucelli as having better JS as he takes Le Cras spot
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I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
That’s hilarious
+1
I think SL and GL are referring to when JJK and Darling have sat down after they have 10 goals between them ... probably half way through the 3 term
I think JJK might be doing a lot of sitting during the game! Gonna struggle to register a stat though.
Quote from: smashbox on March 21, 2019, 02:21:52 PM
I’m very nervous about Balta JS. Lynch probably only needs 1-2 games before he can pinch hit in the ruck. Then Balta will be the first to go.
I see Petrucelli as having better JS as he takes Le Cras spot
I think Weller will be the first to go, then Balta imo. Balta can play in the wing too.
Quote from: smashbox on March 21, 2019, 02:21:52 PM
I’m very nervous about Balta JS. Lynch probably only needs 1-2 games before he can pinch hit in the ruck. Then Balta will be the first to go.
I see Petrucelli as having better JS as he takes Le Cras spot
I feel like it speaks volumes that they were named in the same team. Until Caddy is fit, I can’t really see anyone knocking the door down to take his spot. Mav Weller may go out first anyway.
I’m actually tempted to put him on the field, see what he can do. If him and Setterfield score well enough, perhaps Moore isn’t required at F4.
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I’m very nervous about Balta JS. Lynch probably only needs 1-2 games before he can pinch hit in the ruck. Then Balta will be the first to go.
I see Petrucelli as having better JS as he takes Le Cras spot
I feel like it speaks volumes that they were named in the same team. Until Caddy is fit, I can’t really see anyone knocking the door down to take his spot. Mav Weller may go out first anyway.
I’m actually tempted to put him on the field, see what he can do. If him and Setterfield score well enough, perhaps Moore isn’t required at F4.
Ive fielded him and used dpp to chuck Moore in defence forthis round.
Three more rookie priced players have been confirmed today. West Coast Duo Jack Petruccelle and Oscar Allen have been announced as playing while the Saints have locked in Matt Parker for his AFL debut.
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Three more rookie priced players have been confirmed today. West Coast Duo Jack Petruccelle and Oscar Allen have been announced as playing while the Saints have locked in Matt Parker for his AFL debut.
Which two are people going out of Parker, Balta and Petruccelle?
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Three more rookie priced players have been confirmed today. West Coast Duo Jack Petruccelle and Oscar Allen have been announced as playing while the Saints have locked in Matt Parker for his AFL debut.
Which two are people going out of Parker, Balta and Petruccelle?
Balta and Petruccelle.
Have a feeling Parker is the classic small forward trap, so thinking Balta could potentially make more in the 5-6 rounds before Caddy returns than Parker will.
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Three more rookie priced players have been confirmed today. West Coast Duo Jack Petruccelle and Oscar Allen have been announced as playing while the Saints have locked in Matt Parker for his AFL debut.
Which two are people going out of Parker, Balta and Petruccelle?
Balta and Petruccelle.
Have a feeling Parker is the classic small forward trap, so thinking Balta could potentially make more in the 5-6 rounds before Caddy returns than Parker will.
Yeah I think Parker will be the slowest burn, so he will be my bail out option if SHTF and I need to trade in a rookie - then I will bring him in as should still be cheap
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Three more rookie priced players have been confirmed today. West Coast Duo Jack Petruccelle and Oscar Allen have been announced as playing while the Saints have locked in Matt Parker for his AFL debut.
Which two are people going out of Parker, Balta and Petruccelle?
I am going all 3 atm with Balta on field & the other 2 on the pine.
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Three more rookie priced players have been confirmed today. West Coast Duo Jack Petruccelle and Oscar Allen have been announced as playing while the Saints have locked in Matt Parker for his AFL debut.
Which two are people going out of Parker, Balta and Petruccelle?
Balta and Petruccelle.
Have a feeling Parker is the classic small forward trap, so thinking Balta could potentially make more in the 5-6 rounds before Caddy returns than Parker will.
Yeah I think Parker will be the slowest burn, so he will be my bail out option if SHTF and I need to trade in a rookie - then I will bring him in as should still be cheap
I agree Parker is most likely a slow burn BUT vs. GC at Marvel could make for a dream debut.
West coast supporters, could PetrolJelly be dropped for Gaff? I know they are different positions but I just thought I’d ask the question.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 21, 2019, 05:13:48 PM
West coast supporters, could PetrolJelly be dropped for Gaff? I know they are different positions but I just thought I’d ask the question.
not a WC supporter, but wouldnt he be replacing Lecras role?
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West coast supporters, could PetrolJelly be dropped for Gaff? I know they are different positions but I just thought I’d ask the question.
not a WC supporter, but wouldnt he be replacing Lecras role?
I would suspect so.
Corey Wagner set to make his debut for Melbourne on Saturday.
If I have Moore at D4, would Burgess be preferable as Forward bench or just go next best; eg Balta?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 21, 2019, 06:09:06 PM
Corey Wagner set to make his debut for Melbourne on Saturday.
spewed when we delisted him
Collins or Scrimshaw???
Looking at going (in order):
B: Collins, Clark, Duursma, Burgess, Hore
M: Walsh, Constable, Drew, Scott, Gibbons
F: Setterfield, Petruccelle, Balta, Parker
A debate a few will be having in the next hour...
Gibbons vs Hind (named on extended bench)
I reckon I might take Scrimshaw over Collins and bank the 40k
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I reckon I might take Scrimshaw over Collins and bank the 40k
Would be silly to pass up the JS Collins has IMO.
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I reckon I might take Scrimshaw over Collins and bank the 40k
I considered this, but just can't see where I'd use the 40k at this stage.
Thinking of playing it safe with Collins..
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I reckon I might take Scrimshaw over Collins and bank the 40k
Would be silly to pass up the JS Collins has IMO.
We can always start Collins and correction trade down to Scrimshaw if necessary.
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I reckon I might take Scrimshaw over Collins and bank the 40k
I considered this, but just can't see where I'd use the 40k at this stage.
Thinking of playing it safe with Collins..
I only have $2,700 in the bank so if I did it I would keep the money in the bank haha
pick burgess instead of hore? Whats everyones thoughts on Hore possibly getting dropped for May?
Atkins v Gibbons is gonna be an interesting choice
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 21, 2019, 06:38:49 PM
Atkins v Gibbons is gonna be an interesting choice
Both for me at M10 and M11
As for Collins vs Scrim, I have my side set nicely and can fit Scrim, would need to make a chance somewhere to fit Collins and don't think I want to
Have Moore fwd too, so have the cover just in case
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Atkins v Gibbons is gonna be an interesting choice
Both for me at M10 and M11
As for Collins vs Scrim, I have my side set nicely and can fit Scrim, would need to make a chance somewhere to fit Collins and don't think I want to
Have Moore fwd too, so have the cover just in case
Do you not have Scott or one of Butters/Hately?
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Atkins v Gibbons is gonna be an interesting choice
Both for me at M10 and M11
As for Collins vs Scrim, I have my side set nicely and can fit Scrim, would need to make a chance somewhere to fit Collins and don't think I want to
Have Moore fwd too, so have the cover just in case
Do you not have Scott or one of Butters/Hately?
Walsh M7, then Constable, Scott, Atkins, Gibbons
Need to spend more on def rookies this year, so happy to pass on Butters/Hately
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Atkins v Gibbons is gonna be an interesting choice
Both for me at M10 and M11
Also running both, with Walsh, Butters, Constable on field, Scott on the pine
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Atkins v Gibbons is gonna be an interesting choice
Both for me at M10 and M11
Also running both, with Walsh, Butters, Constable on field, Scott on the pine
Sounds like my mid.
Doubt Clarke will get up given tge Essendon extended bench
Anyone concerns with Atkins?
Cunico, Parsons and Narkle all emergencies who play that spot..
Gotta decide between Hore and Scrim down back
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Gotta decide between Hore and Scrim down back
Same, really not sure between the two.
Def:
Scrimshaw $149,800
Clark $144,300
Duursma (Mid) $130,800
Joyce $123,900
McKay $123,900
Burgess (FWD) $123,900
Hore $117,300
*Wilkie $124,900
*Zerk-Thatcher $123,900
*McInerney $117,300
Mid:
Wagner $123,900
Constable $123,900
Scott $117,300
Atkins $112,900
Gibbons $102,400
*Hately $148,800
*Hind $117,300
*Hayes $117,300
Ruc:
*Clarke $142,600
*Flynn $123,900
Fwd:
Setterfield (MID) $144,900
Brander $135,900
Balta $123,900
Drew (MID) $123,900
Miers $123,900
Petrucelle $123,900
Parker $117,300
*Schultz $117,300
Full list of 150k and under rookies, with those on the 7 man sunday benches astrixed :)
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Def:
Scrimshaw $149,800
Clark $144,300
Duursma (Mid) $130,800
Joyce $123,900
McKay $123,900
Burgess (FWD) $123,900
Hore $117,300
*Wilkie $124,900
*Zerk-Thatcher $123,900
*McInerney $117,300
Mid:
Wagner $123,900
Constable $123,900
Scott $117,300
Atkins $112,900
Gibbons $102,400
*Hately $148,800
*Hind $117,300
*Hayes $117,300
Ruc:
*Clarke $142,600
*Flynn $123,900
Fwd:
Setterfield (MID) $144,900
Brander $135,900
Balta $123,900
Drew (MID) $123,900
Miers $123,900
Parker $117,300
*Schultz $117,300
Full list of 150k and under rookies, with those on the 7 man sunday benches astrixed :)
+ Petruccelle in the fwds
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Def:
Scrimshaw $149,800
Clark $144,300
Duursma (Mid) $130,800
Joyce $123,900
McKay $123,900
Burgess (FWD) $123,900
Hore $117,300
*Wilkie $124,900
*Zerk-Thatcher $123,900
*McInerney $117,300
Mid:
Wagner $123,900
Constable $123,900
Scott $117,300
Atkins $112,900
Gibbons $102,400
*Hately $148,800
*Hind $117,300
*Hayes $117,300
Ruc:
*Clarke $142,600
*Flynn $123,900
Fwd:
Setterfield (MID) $144,900
Brander $135,900
Balta $123,900
Drew (MID) $123,900
Miers $123,900
Parker $117,300
*Schultz $117,300
Full list of 150k and under rookies, with those on the 7 man sunday benches astrixed :)
+ Petruccelle in the fwds
Yep amended, my bad haha
no walsh silverlion?
Walsh is looking rough at the minute. He is finding the pill but struggling to hit a target. Basically sums up the Carlton team right now
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 21, 2019, 08:37:43 PM
Walsh is looking rough at the minute. He is finding the pill but struggling to hit a target. Basically sums up the Carlton team right now
27 at 1/2 time isn't ideal, but everyone has him so that's the saving grace
Blood expensive rookies, this is why I hate starting them lol
Yeah, that's the thing, was in 70% of teams and those would all be starting him on field. His ability to find the pill is impressive, just needs to use it better.
Gibbons has been ok. Balta bleh
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no walsh silverlion?
Just listed the 150k and unders for reference mainly for bench options :P
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Yeah, that's the thing, was in 70% of teams and those would all be starting him on field. His ability to find the pill is impressive, just needs to use it better.
Gibbons has been ok. Balta bleh
Last I saw I think it was 75% so pretty much every active team would have him on field
Like you said he's getting the ball just needs to be cleaner and that will come so should be fine
Big 3rd
22 touches and 64 SC now. Kid's a gun
Pretty happy didn’t go Balta will be dropped next week
Just dropped Duursma for Scrimshaw. Trust Scrimshaw more despite the comments from Clarko.
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Pretty happy didn’t go Balta will be dropped next week
yeah, spewing >:(
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Big 3rd
22 touches and 64 SC now. Kid's a gun
Put the moz on him :-[
Great games by the rookies sans Balta. Unfortunately didn't translate to SC tonight but that ain't important. Ticks for Gibbons, Setters, Walsh.
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Great games by the rookies sans Balta. Unfortunately didn't translate to SC tonight but that ain't important. Ticks for Gibbons, Setters, Walsh.
Saving grace is just edged Drew over Balta for a on field spot.
As horrible as Balta was, the silver lining is that this score will roll out of his average, and the unfortunate injury to Rance might just see him hold his spot
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As horrible as Balta was, the silver lining is that this score will roll out of his average, and the unfortunate injury to Rance might just see him hold his spot
Yeah seemed to play a little back late in the last qtr with Rance off.
Guess I'm the only idiot who played Balta. Watch Drew get 100 now.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 21, 2019, 10:23:25 PM
As horrible as Balta was, the silver lining is that this score will roll out of his average, and the unfortunate injury to Rance might just see him hold his spot
Yeah seemed to play a little back late in the last qtr with Rance off.
Hardwick in the press conference said that Balta might go back. May still be in the frame for a 2nd game!
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Quote from: Mat0369 on March 21, 2019, 08:41:58 PM
Yeah, that's the thing, was in 70% of teams and those would all be starting him on field. His ability to find the pill is impressive, just needs to use it better.
Gibbons has been ok. Balta bleh
Last I saw I think it was 75% so pretty much every active team would have him on field
Like you said he's getting the ball just needs to be cleaner and that will come so should be fine
Me not starting him makes him a POD and I'll take that small win. Nah who am I kidding, he looks like being a superstar
Walsh came out after half time and looked like he had settled in. Both him and Setters ran out of juice in the last quarter which is understandable.
Gibbons was on 30 at HT and finished on 35. Jeez it ain't looking good there and I may regret bringing him in last second for Atkins. Thing is I doubt Atkins scores much better.
Balta is freaking useless. I expected the forward bench to be a pit, but I didn't expect it to be that bad. Why the F couldn't they have made Gibbons a forward rookie?
I'm not worried about Balta being dropped because I allow for 2 rookie correction trades after round 2 anyway. What annoys me is that I put him on field ahead of Drew 10 minutes before the game :'(
I might use him as the loophole if he gets dropped this week anyway. Thing is I don't want to have 4 guys I need to make correction trades with so I'll be royally screwed if that's the case.
Way I see it
Walsh won enough of the pill to justify his price tag. He will clean up his disposal and he looked a hell of a lot better after HT.
Setters was better for the run and looked really good out there as well. Position is solid, scoring will improve with his fitness
Gibbons didn't see a lot of the pill. There was the play where he had the open 50 with just Rance. Our player cooked the kick to him and put him in a bad spot that he had to really reach and it slipped through his fingers. He picked up the ground ball, tried to shake Rance and got rag dolled. Rance tried to block Gibbons out but he was able to get past and smother the ball for it to go out of bounds. That's the sort of stuff that should see him hold his spot regardless of the possession numbers. He will be a slow burn but I can see him having games where he kicks a couple and pops out an 80.
Balta will need to be either a rolling donut or a corrective trade option. Can he lose money if he averages 18 at his price? :-X
I luckily didnt play balta on field wasnt confident enough
I'm not worried about Gibbons. His first AFL match was against one of the best teams on the biggest stage
He'll improve and at his price will easily make enough cash to justify the pick
Walsh and Setters looked very good at stages and we can field them with confidence
Let's see how Balta goes next week - like I said Rances injury might just give him another chance
It was just 1 game, no need to panic yet
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 21, 2019, 10:23:25 PM
As horrible as Balta was, the silver lining is that this score will roll out of his average, and the unfortunate injury to Rance might just see him hold his spot
Yeah seemed to play a little back late in the last qtr with Rance off.
Yeah played back for most of the last quarter, had a really good intercept mark right near the end. I didn't see much of the third, but the fact he was on 25 at quarter time and finished with 15 says a lot..
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Quote from: tommy10 on March 21, 2019, 10:25:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 21, 2019, 10:23:25 PM
As horrible as Balta was, the silver lining is that this score will roll out of his average, and the unfortunate injury to Rance might just see him hold his spot
Yeah seemed to play a little back late in the last qtr with Rance off.
Yeah played back for most of the last quarter, had a really good intercept mark right near the end. I didn't see much of the third, but the fact he was on 25 at quarter time and finished with 15 says a lot..
As long as he stays in the squad i dont care about the score. It will only be in his rolling average one week.
very happy i strengthened the forward line though so i stuck him on the bench. I reckon the defensive rookies are the way to go.
Scrim Hore Clark im pretty happy to have on field.
So how many people actually fielded Balta in the end? I did and I already want to delete my team...
Quote from: LaHug on March 22, 2019, 10:04:01 AM
So how many people actually fielded Balta in the end? I did and I already want to delete my team...
Ouch
Bench for me, fielded Setters and Drew
Quote from: LaHug on March 22, 2019, 10:04:01 AM
So how many people actually fielded Balta in the end? I did and I already want to delete my team...
i didnt but i dont imagine parker petruclle will do much better.
Quote from: LaHug on March 22, 2019, 10:04:01 AM
So how many people actually fielded Balta in the end? I did and I already want to delete my team...
Yeah that would be me. I had him on, thought better of it and took him off.
Then with 30 seconds to go I put him back on. If only I got locked out before I made that move...
Quote from: quinny88 on March 22, 2019, 12:36:38 AMI'm not worried about Balta being dropped because I allow for 2 rookie correction trades after round 2 anyway.
I find it funny how everyone is happy to burn trades on rookie corrections, but then stay away from 250k-450k stepping stone players for instance because they're not willing to "use a trade" down the track to turn them into true top 6-8 premiums.
There needs to be more importance placed on doing as much as possible to avoid wasting trades on rookie corrections in my opinion. You'd be kicking yourself looking back on a Balta > Parker trade in hindsight, when it could've been used on something much more pivotal late in the season.
I fielded Balta ;D The dream start.
Quote from: LaHug on March 22, 2019, 10:04:01 AM
So how many people actually fielded Balta in the end? I did and I already want to delete my team...
Yep. This. Balta will actually drop in price yes? lol. Ah well. The struggle has only just begun LH.
Quote from: HappyDEZ on March 22, 2019, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: LaHug on March 22, 2019, 10:04:01 AM
So how many people actually fielded Balta in the end? I did and I already want to delete my team...
Yep. This. Balta will actually drop in price yes? lol. Ah well. The struggle has only just begun LH.
Same here... Doesn't help he barely got on the field in the second and third quarters.
Ah well, let's see if his role changes next week with Rance out.
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Quote from: quinny88 on March 22, 2019, 12:36:38 AMI'm not worried about Balta being dropped because I allow for 2 rookie correction trades after round 2 anyway.
I find it funny how everyone is happy to burn trades on rookie corrections, but then stay away from 250k-450k stepping stone players for instance because they're not willing to "use a trade" down the track to turn them into true top 6-8 premiums.
There needs to be more importance placed on doing as much as possible to avoid wasting trades on rookie corrections in my opinion. You'd be kicking yourself looking back on a Balta > Parker trade in hindsight, when it could've been used on something much more pivotal late in the season.
Yeah it's a good point.
I think however that rookie correction trades are almost inevitable, given the inherent doubt over JS, them getting dropped/injured and/or scoring like crap.
While I agree it's important to try and nail all the rookies straight up, it's not that easy, and having the "right" rookies is even more important come round 3,even it u have to use a trade or 2 to get there.
Quote from: Holz on March 22, 2019, 10:18:47 AM
Quote from: LaHug on March 22, 2019, 10:04:01 AM
So how many people actually fielded Balta in the end? I did and I already want to delete my team...
i didnt but i dont imagine parker petruclle will do much better.
Yeah, I can't see Parker or Petru scoring big. The only reason why I stayed away from Balta in the end was that he had the shakiest JS.
Quote from: ubeaut on March 22, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
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Quote from: quinny88 on March 22, 2019, 12:36:38 AMI'm not worried about Balta being dropped because I allow for 2 rookie correction trades after round 2 anyway.
I find it funny how everyone is happy to burn trades on rookie corrections, but then stay away from 250k-450k stepping stone players for instance because they're not willing to "use a trade" down the track to turn them into true top 6-8 premiums.
There needs to be more importance placed on doing as much as possible to avoid wasting trades on rookie corrections in my opinion. You'd be kicking yourself looking back on a Balta > Parker trade in hindsight, when it could've been used on something much more pivotal late in the season.
Yeah it's a good point.
I think however that rookie correction trades are almost inevitable, given the inherent doubt over JS, them getting dropped/injured and/or scoring like crap.
While I agree it's important to try and nail all the rookies straight up, it's not that easy, and having the "right" rookies is even more important come round 3,even it u have to use a trade or 2 to get there.
Yeah I understand the difficulty in completely nailing the rookies, but things like job security and scoring potential can been assessed to some degree prior to the start of the season.
Unpredicable curveballs are going to come up occasionally (Ronke last year anyone?), but I just think there is merit putting the same care into rookies that you would with midpricers (which always seem to be heavily scrutinized). The "hope for the best and it can be sorted with a correction trade anyway" approach just seems reckless and potentially damaging in my opinion.
Quote from: LaHug on March 22, 2019, 10:04:01 AM
So how many people actually fielded Balta in the end? I did and I already want to delete my team...
Imagine if he serves up an 80 next week and he's stuck on the bench, Lol. The rookie merry go round is in full swing. :)
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess
Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?
Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?
Hmmmmm
Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess
Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?
Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?
Hmmmmm
Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids
At the moment i have clark, Duursma and Hore. I'd pick Scrim if i had enough money. Im actually really worried about Hore getting dropped for May next week, however he still in my side atm due to his okay JLT scoring. I dont have Burgess either because im not sure on his scoring ability in the suns forward line. for the saints rookies in Wilkie and Joyce i know absolutely nothing about them.
i brought in ridley at $233k as i need more JS at the back running a stacked midfield and he will still make money
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess
Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?
Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?
Hmmmmm
Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids
Is there any appeal to Wilkie outside of JS? He averaged 22 in the JLT with 37.5% gametime. Works out to be 0.49 points per minute, which is worse than Hore, Gibbons & Parker. Burgess is actually the only popular rookie with lower points per minute.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess
Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?
Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?
Hmmmmm
Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids
Is there any appeal to Wilkie outside of JS? He averaged 22 in the JLT with 37.5% gametime. Works out to be 0.49 points per minute, which is worse than Hore, Gibbons & Parker. Burgess is actually the only popular rookie with lower points per minute.
He barely got a look in at the JLT so I'm not too concerned about those stats
He averaged 24 touches last year, is a mature ager so has played against men and as far as I know played off half back so he could slot into Robbo's role, and that's what's got me interested
I know I can get him in 2 weeks if need be, but if I get the selections right now then I save that trade, so just trying to figure out which way to go
Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 01:02:33 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 22, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 22, 2019, 12:36:38 AMI'm not worried about Balta being dropped because I allow for 2 rookie correction trades after round 2 anyway.
I find it funny how everyone is happy to burn trades on rookie corrections, but then stay away from 250k-450k stepping stone players for instance because they're not willing to "use a trade" down the track to turn them into true top 6-8 premiums.
There needs to be more importance placed on doing as much as possible to avoid wasting trades on rookie corrections in my opinion. You'd be kicking yourself looking back on a Balta > Parker trade in hindsight, when it could've been used on something much more pivotal late in the season.
Yeah it's a good point.
I think however that rookie correction trades are almost inevitable, given the inherent doubt over JS, them getting dropped/injured and/or scoring like crap.
While I agree it's important to try and nail all the rookies straight up, it's not that easy, and having the "right" rookies is even more important come round 3,even it u have to use a trade or 2 to get there.
Yeah I understand the difficulty in completely nailing the rookies, but things like job security and scoring potential can been assessed to some degree prior to the start of the season.
Unpredicable curveballs are going to come up occasionally (Ronke last year anyone?), but I just think there is merit putting the same care into rookies that you would with midpricers (which always seem to be heavily scrutinized). The "hope for the best and it can be sorted with a correction trade anyway" approach just seems reckless and potentially damaging in my opinion.
So long as I have at least 2/3rds of my rookies go OK I think I will leave Balta at F8 rather than waste a trade. Rather use that trade on a rookie that has made some money as opposed to a straight swap for a bubble boy.
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Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess
Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?
Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?
Hmmmmm
Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids
Is there any appeal to Wilkie outside of JS? He averaged 22 in the JLT with 37.5% gametime. Works out to be 0.49 points per minute, which is worse than Hore, Gibbons & Parker. Burgess is actually the only popular rookie with lower points per minute.
He barely got a look in at the JLT so I'm not too concerned about those stats
He averaged 24 touches last year, is a mature ager so has played against men and as far as I know played off half back so he could slot into Robbo's role, and that's what's got me interested
I know I can get him in 2 weeks if need be, but if I get the selections right now then I save that trade, so just trying to figure out which way to go
Yeah interesting, I wonder how effective he will be at replacing Robbo if that is the role he is in fact playing.
Could it be worth taking a punt on Wilkie over Parker (who is looking like a slow burner playing small forward in an average team) and switching Burgess forward? You would lose the link with Moore if you have him forward already obviously, but this can always be adjusted later down the track...
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 02:43:49 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess
Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?
Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?
Hmmmmm
Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids
Is there any appeal to Wilkie outside of JS? He averaged 22 in the JLT with 37.5% gametime. Works out to be 0.49 points per minute, which is worse than Hore, Gibbons & Parker. Burgess is actually the only popular rookie with lower points per minute.
He barely got a look in at the JLT so I'm not too concerned about those stats
He averaged 24 touches last year, is a mature ager so has played against men and as far as I know played off half back so he could slot into Robbo's role, and that's what's got me interested
I know I can get him in 2 weeks if need be, but if I get the selections right now then I save that trade, so just trying to figure out which way to go
Wilkie didn't really have a role in JLT, he even did some rucking when Pierce went down. He might come in as a replacement for Roberton now.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess
Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?
Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?
Hmmmmm
Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids
Is there any appeal to Wilkie outside of JS? He averaged 22 in the JLT with 37.5% gametime. Works out to be 0.49 points per minute, which is worse than Hore, Gibbons & Parker. Burgess is actually the only popular rookie with lower points per minute.
He barely got a look in at the JLT so I'm not too concerned about those stats
He averaged 24 touches last year, is a mature ager so has played against men and as far as I know played off half back so he could slot into Robbo's role, and that's what's got me interested
I know I can get him in 2 weeks if need be, but if I get the selections right now then I save that trade, so just trying to figure out which way to go
Yeah interesting, I wonder how effective he will be at replacing Robbo if that is the role he is in fact playing.
Could it be worth taking a punt on Wilkie over Parker (who is looking like a slow burner playing small forward in an average team) and switching Burgess forward? You would lose the link with Moore if you have him forward already obviously, but this can always be adjusted later down the track...
I've got Balta and Petrucelle on the bench, and I think I'd rather keep Petruccelle and my DPP with Burgess open (Burgess back Moore forward), so I'd have to drop a def rookie, but I just don't know which one I should dump
Might just have to keep it as is, and then do the correction trade if need be :-\
I’ve just dropped Scrimshaw to Wilkie. Probably going to score similar so may as well pocket the extra cash.
Do we think it's worth the money to move Constable/Scott/Atkins up to Bailey Smith? Would give me Walsh, Smith and Butters plus two of Constable/Scott/Atkins? Or save the money with the cheaper rookies?
Quote from: Rusty00 on March 22, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
Do we think it's worth the money to move Constable/Scott/Atkins up to Bailey Smith? Would give me Walsh, Smith and Butters plus two of Constable/Scott/Atkins? Or save the money with the cheaper rookies?
pass on smith bud, is constable/scott/ atkins your bench or onfield?
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Quote from: Rusty00 on March 22, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
Do we think it's worth the money to move Constable/Scott/Atkins up to Bailey Smith? Would give me Walsh, Smith and Butters plus two of Constable/Scott/Atkins? Or save the money with the cheaper rookies?
pass on smith bud, is constable/scott/ atkins your bench or onfield?
Constable/Scott/Atkins my bench.
Smith was a beast in juniors - very close to Walsh in terms of SC, but WBD has 1000 mids so can't see him scoring high and generating enough cash at his price
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Quote from: frenzy on March 22, 2019, 03:59:56 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on March 22, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
Do we think it's worth the money to move Constable/Scott/Atkins up to Bailey Smith? Would give me Walsh, Smith and Butters plus two of Constable/Scott/Atkins? Or save the money with the cheaper rookies?
pass on smith bud, is constable/scott/ atkins your bench or onfield?
Constable/Scott/Atkins my bench.
them 3 more than enough for the bench
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 04:22:22 PM
Smith was a beast in juniors - very close to Walsh in terms of SC, but WBD has 1000 mids so can't see him scoring high and generating enough cash at his price
too much cash for the bench and barely blew out the cobwebs in the JLT. I think he come back from an ankle injury?
edit; geez I flowered this post, Lol
Whats everyone doing for 2 out of Scrim, Hore and Wilkie?
Quote from: SilverLion on March 21, 2019, 07:09:50 PM
Def:
Scrimshaw $149,800
Clark $144,300
Duursma (Mid) $130,800
Wilkie $124,900
Joyce $123,900
McKay $123,900
Burgess (FWD) $123,900
Hore $117,300
Mid:
Wagner $123,900
Constable $123,900
Scott $117,300
Atkins $112,900
Gibbons $102,400*
Ruc:
N/A
Fwd:
Setterfield (MID) $144,900*
Brander $135,900
Balta $123,900*
Drew (MID) $123,900
Miers $123,900
Petrucelle $123,900
Parker $117,300
Schultz $117,300
Full list of 150k and under rookies, with those who've already played astrixed.
UPDATED
Lachlan Schultz named for Freo.
Mature-ager, but think he's a wait and see..
No Hind or Hately. Wish I'd just picked Gibbons now. Stupid Sunday benches.
Who to pick now? Wagner? Who else is there??
Quote from: ubeaut on March 22, 2019, 06:00:20 PM
No Hind or Hately. Wish I'd just picked Gibbons now. Stupid Sunday benches.
Who to pick now? Wagner? Who else is there??
No-one under 150k :P
Quote from: jfitty on March 22, 2019, 05:21:02 PM
Lachlan Schultz named for Freo.
Mature-ager, but think he's a wait and see..
I have no idea who he is and it looks like he didn't play any JLT. Pick at your own peril at this point. Probably does a Hannan and scores 90 odd before a bunch of 30's
Quote from: ubeaut on March 22, 2019, 06:00:20 PM
No Hind or Hately. Wish I'd just picked Gibbons now. Stupid Sunday benches.
Who to pick now? Wagner? Who else is there??
(Assuming you have Drew FWD) Move Drew to the middle and pick up Petruccelle, Parker, Miers or Brander?
Quote from: ubeaut on March 22, 2019, 06:00:20 PM
No Hind or Hately. Wish I'd just picked Gibbons now. Stupid Sunday benches.
Who to pick now? Wagner? Who else is there??
Butters, Constable, Bailey Scott, Duursma
Quote from: JonnyJJJJ on March 22, 2019, 06:15:03 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 22, 2019, 06:00:20 PM
No Hind or Hately. Wish I'd just picked Gibbons now. Stupid Sunday benches.
Who to pick now? Wagner? Who else is there??
(Assuming you have Drew FWD) Move Drew to the middle and pick up Petruccelle, Parker, Miers or Brander?
Nah thought of that. We might need Drew fwd, otherwise stuck fielding Parker/Petrol/Balta. The less fwd rookies the better. Might just have to pick Wagner.
Quote from: Grazz on March 22, 2019, 06:17:45 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 22, 2019, 06:00:20 PM
No Hind or Hately. Wish I'd just picked Gibbons now. Stupid Sunday benches.
Who to pick now? Wagner? Who else is there??
Butters, Constable, Bailey Scott, Duursma
Got em all. Duursma needed in defence. I can't believe I'm the only one in this position. I thought I dodged a crap scoring rookie bullet not getting Gibbons. Wagner it is.
Quote from: SilverLion on March 22, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 22, 2019, 06:00:20 PM
No Hind or Hately. Wish I'd just picked Gibbons now. Stupid Sunday benches.
Who to pick now? Wagner? Who else is there??
No-one under 150k :P
Hately has the flu. Annoying as as he would've played. now we all miss him and he probably plays R2
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 22, 2019, 06:34:17 PM
Hately has the flu. Annoying as as he would've played. now we all miss him and he probably plays R2
Better for correction trades if you have 3 spud rookies
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 22, 2019, 06:38:30 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 22, 2019, 06:34:17 PM
Hately has the flu. Annoying as as he would've played. now we all miss him and he probably plays R2
Better for correction trades if you have 3 spud rookies
Just make sure you have the spare 40k odd to go up from basement non- performing or dropped rook
Quote from: Slim Don on March 22, 2019, 06:46:16 PM
Just make sure you have the spare 40k odd to go up from basement non- performing or dropped rook
Or if you have some pricier ones it's a nice sideways trade and hope they make 10k in profit since they will see a price rise before he plays anyway.
Clark is going to be a gun. Gee he looks good out there
Constable looks fantastic too
Constable worked into the game really nicely. Atkins also probably gave most what they expected
Seriously considering going Parker over Petrucelle on FWD bench. With JJK, Rioli and Cripps all due back shortly his JS has to be seriously shaky. Can anyone mount a case for Petrucelle??
Quote from: Johnahawk on March 23, 2019, 11:54:56 AM
Seriously considering going Parker over Petrucelle on FWD bench. With JJK, Rioli and Cripps all due back shortly his JS has to be seriously shaky. Can anyone mount a case for Petrucelle??
Expected to fill the Frenchman’s role, and if so may get a good run at it
Quote from: Johnahawk on March 23, 2019, 11:54:56 AM
Seriously considering going Parker over Petrucelle on FWD bench. With JJK, Rioli and Cripps all due back shortly his JS has to be seriously shaky. Can anyone mount a case for Petrucelle??
One of Allen or Brander will go out for JJK; he doesn't affect Petrucelle at all. Additionally they're also carrying Waterman AND Allen; I very strongly doubt they play all of JJK, Darling, Waterman, Hickey and Allen/Brander so you'd expect Rioli in for 1.
Really you're looking at Petrucelle vs Venables for one spot, and we know Venables is poor. I'd back Petrucelle to win that battle.
Saying that, I have both Petrucelle and Parker as my f7/8 because I think Burgess is hot trash.
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuursma looking good at the minute
Benched Duursma for Hore thinking Duurs would struggle on the MCG.
:'(
Quote from: Southstorm on March 23, 2019, 02:15:06 PM
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuursma looking good at the minute
Yup. Hopefully Scrimshaw scores alright. Might have to keep a spare 30k for a Hore to Duursma trade
The Port young guys have been really fun to watch this quarter. They're all making an impact
I have no Port rookies on field. :-X
I have Drew on field. No Duursma in my side and Butters on the bench
Drew and Duursma the two Port rookies I went with, and both on field
55 and 47 respectively at the half :)
Hore on the bench ;)
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 23, 2019, 02:53:29 PM
I have Drew on field. No Duursma in my side and Butters on the bench
Why butters on the bench? I’ve always found it hard to leave the pricier rooks on the pine, prob won’t worry you if you started Constable I guess
Started Constable this week with Cousins and Walsh. Hence benching Butters
I'm going to keep the cash to go Hore to Duursma. He has looked amazing. That's one correctional trade I'll keep an eye on
Sir Willem of Drew is a beast
Balta on field, Drew and Constable benched
Hore recovered slightly from a dismal start to reach 56. Happy with the result given his horror start.
So with Hately not named and Constable on the bench, do I keep him to take Constable score, or move him out now? Best option I see at the moment is Heeney to mids and Petrucelle in as fwd. No good rookies left in mids this week. Have drew and setters in fwds to move him back next week
Quote from: Wanderer on March 23, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Hore recovered slightly from a dismal start to reach 56. Happy with the result given his horror start.
Was on negatives for a while. Can live with that score at D8
Quote from: Gavdroid on March 23, 2019, 04:28:28 PM
So with Hately not named and Constable on the bench, do I keep him to take Constable score, or move him out now? Best option I see at the moment is Heeney to mids and Petrucelle in as fwd. No good rookies left in mids this week. Have drew and setters in fwds to move him back next week
I'd keep. Wouldn't want to field Petrucelle and get a 30 odd.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 23, 2019, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 23, 2019, 04:24:47 PM
Hore recovered slightly from a dismal start to reach 56. Happy with the result given his horror start.
Was on negatives for a while. Can live with that score at D8
Quote from: Gavdroid on March 23, 2019, 04:28:28 PM
So with Hately not named and Constable on the bench, do I keep him to take Constable score, or move him out now? Best option I see at the moment is Heeney to mids and Petrucelle in as fwd. No good rookies left in mids this week. Have drew and setters in fwds to move him back next week
I'd keep. Wouldn't want to field Petrucelle and get a 30 odd.
I guess it comes down to 1 weeks worth of points vs a saved trade
Hah, all 3 Port 1st year rookies finished on 67
All 3 + Drew won't be getting dropped anytime soon after that. Hopefully they continue to go well and hold their spots
Cousins on 14 but has 28 DT. Lotta touches for not many points.
Scrim barely touching it early. Duursma looks to have been the pick so far of the backs with how he played. Hopefully he picks it up.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 23, 2019, 05:03:37 PM
Duursma looks to have been the pick so far of the backs with how he played. Hopefully he picks it up.
Clark too
Scrimshaw may need a corrective trade... seems out of breath already at the end of Q2 and not doing much except slowly jogging around. Will be surprised if Clarko gives him a reprieve.
Wilkie looks to be a pretty good downgrade correction, assuming he follows on from a great preseason.
Quote from: Southstorm on March 23, 2019, 05:40:25 PM
Scrimshaw may need a corrective trade... seems out of breath already at the end of Q2 and not doing much except slowly jogging around. Will be surprised if Clarko gives him a reprieve.
To Duursma instead of Hore. To be fair, I think the bottom end rookie defenders are all going to be bleh.
Cousins 52 DT to 31 SC due to the whopping 45% DE. Disposal has been atrocious through all the games so far. You would have to assume it cleans up and the signs are good.
Gets frustrating doesn't it lol
Previous page I said I should grab Wilkie and dump Scrimshaw, and was close to doing it this morning
As usual didn't follow through :(
At worst, Scrimshaw should hold his spot for another week. Would be tough to change the Hawks team after a big win.
Quote from: fanTCfool on March 23, 2019, 07:10:40 PM
At worst, Scrimshaw should hold his spot for another week. Would be tough to change the Hawks team after a big win.
Yup. Worst case you have the Duursma option if you're like me and didn't start him as well. He showed some good attack on the ball and some skill late in the game. Just goes missing for long stretches.
That was only Scrimshaw's 5th AFL game and has had a few injuries, should improve?
You would hope so. Some perceived attitude issues when he was at the Suns might limit him if he still has them
If scrimshaw scores 70 odd next week im gunna hold
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Honestly @eaglesman you should be proud that your mob got within 10 goals of us
Quote from: GoLions on March 24, 2019, 01:23:55 AM
Honestly @eaglesman you should be proud that your mob got within 10 goals of us
;D
There's no coming back from that.
What do people think of the two Melbourne rookies, Sparrow and Wagner?
Sparrow was the late in but can Wagner keep his spot?
Sparrow looked really good early. Did a lot of damage in the first quarter while the Dees were on fire. He is one I'll keep an eye on. Probably pass on Wagner
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 24, 2019, 11:44:19 AM
Sparrow looked really good early. Did a lot of damage in the first quarter while the Dees were on fire. He is one I'll keep an eye on. Probably pass on Wagner
Agree he looked good, but still might be a risk to make way for Lewis who was a late out.
Lewis has a hamstring so I'd say he is at least a few weeks. Sparrow also played forward while Lewis plays half back. I'd think he is safe if he backs it up next week
Well Collins is quickly turning into a disaster.
Started the game well with an intercept mark and then turned to crap quick. He looks awful against VFL caliber forwards
Bit disappointed with Collins so far, but have to remember he was picked for his JS.
I’ll be benching him for Duursma next week though
Anyone field all the spuds? Collins, Burgess, Balta and Gibbons
No spuds on ground for me thankfully
Glad I didn't pick Collins either
Quote from: Gigantor on March 24, 2019, 03:28:27 PM
Anyone field all the spuds? Collins, Burgess, Balta and Gibbons
Only Collins for me - rest on bench,
I fielded Collins. I'm rage trading him to Duursma. He is turrible. Didn't pick Burgess. Fielded Pierce and his 50 odd
Quote from: jfitty on March 24, 2019, 02:26:53 PM
Bit disappointed with Collins so far, but have to remember he was picked for his JS.
I’ll be benching him for Duursma next week though
Still expected 60’s. He will lose $$ at this rate!
Fielded Balta and Collins, Captained Grundy. Sub 2k for me this week
Quote from: AaronKirk on March 24, 2019, 04:23:39 PM
Fielded Balta and Collins, Captained Grundy. Sub 2k for me this week
That's rough. A couple of unlucky breaks, should turn around next week though. Although Balta/Collins might need to go
Quote from: AaronKirk on March 24, 2019, 04:23:39 PM
Fielded Balta and Collins, Captained Grundy. Sub 2k for me this week
Exactly the same as me, a very mediocre week
Balta fielded for me and Grundy skip
Still tracking for 2k+
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Walsh, Constable and Scott all look like they should be on field, but I've only got space for two :(
Scott on the bench this week, 34 at 1/4 time
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 24, 2019, 06:54:16 PM
Walsh, Constable and Scott all look like they should be on field, but I've only got space for two :(
Scott on the bench this week, 34 at 1/4 time
It’s potentially the classic example of the expensive rookie not being a necessity for me. Walsh is a star, and will score the best of the rookies you’d think, but if Scott and Constable are close or the same, that extra 80k for Walsh could have been better used elsewhere...
Quote from: js19 on March 24, 2019, 07:08:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 24, 2019, 06:54:16 PM
Walsh, Constable and Scott all look like they should be on field, but I've only got space for two :(
Scott on the bench this week, 34 at 1/4 time
It’s potentially the classic example of the expensive rookie not being a necessity for me. Walsh is a star, and will score the best of the rookies you’d think, but if Scott and Constable are close or the same, that extra 80k for Walsh could have been better used elsewhere...
Like to help turn Gold into Gawn :D
Quote from: PowerBug on March 24, 2019, 07:13:24 PM
Quote from: js19 on March 24, 2019, 07:08:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 24, 2019, 06:54:16 PM
Walsh, Constable and Scott all look like they should be on field, but I've only got space for two :(
Scott on the bench this week, 34 at 1/4 time
It’s potentially the classic example of the expensive rookie not being a necessity for me. Walsh is a star, and will score the best of the rookies you’d think, but if Scott and Constable are close or the same, that extra 80k for Walsh could have been better used elsewhere...
Like to help turn Gold into Gawn :D
PB with the curse, 5 pt qtr for Goldy :o
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Walsh, Constable and Scott all look like they should be on field, but I've only got space for two :(
Scott on the bench this week, 34 at 1/4 time
All about that cash. Helps ease the pain of the bench rookies on the other lines being sub 50 players on the reg
Parker done very well.
Real happy took him instead of Balta
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Anyone field all the spuds? Collins, Burgess, Balta and Gibbons
Only Collins for me - rest on bench,
none, only have burgess and he was bench
Quote from: AaronKirk on March 24, 2019, 04:23:39 PM
Fielded Balta and Collins, Captained Grundy. Sub 2k for me this week
yep, Collins & Balta on the field for me too >:(
Collins probably needs to be traded if you have him as his B/e is listed as 49. Balta probably worth another week though with Rances injury although his B/E is 32.
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Collins probably needs to be traded if you have him as his B/e is listed as 49. Balta probably worth another week though with Rances injury although his B/E is 32.
What if Collins gets 60 this week though? The 27 will only affect one price change. I think it's worth waiting until next week at least (pending other problems you have)
For me, Collins would have to go this week if I’m going to be any chance of getting Newman if he lights it up again, so that might sway me into a trade. Balta the other concern, but no money made from a sideways there, so can wait for now.
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Collins probably needs to be traded if you have him as his B/e is listed as 49. Balta probably worth another week though with Rances injury although his B/E is 32.
What if Collins gets 60 this week though? The 27 will only affect one price change. I think it's worth waiting until next week at least (pending other problems you have)
Still undecided though and fair comment. just need to work out whether I need 3 corrective trades or 2 and Rucks as we know from Rd 1 could be an issue.
Calm down people - you're crazy to make decisions based off 1 single game
You picked your rookies for a reason, so give them another chance
As for BE who gives a shower their first score rolls out of their average soon anyway and if they actually score ok this week their cash and low BE will begin again
Nobody should be trading any rookies this week imo
I don't have Parker and Wilkie, but they scored well against the crappest side in the comp, and the game was on the line so points went a bit crazy at the end
Wouldn't be surprised if they both put up 50's next week
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 25, 2019, 11:14:52 AM
Nobody should be trading any rookies this week imo
Unless someone is dropped or injured, or you're certain you'll need more than two correction trades next week. Otherwise, I agree.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 25, 2019, 11:14:52 AM
Nobody should be trading any rookies this week imo
Unless someone is dropped or injured, or you're certain you'll need more than two correction trades next week. Otherwise, I agree.
Well yeah, that goes without saying I would have thought :)
Anyone watch the Hawks vs Crows? I decided to start Cousins as one of my on field rookies, but didn't seem to do that well even though he had a fair bit of the ball. Was it due to poor DE, or should I look at using a corrective trade on him? Will definitely wait another week, but just wanted some idea on how he actually went.
No trades should happen this week in my opinion. Wait a week and see how everyone goes. If Collins and Balta both score 80+ this week and Wilkie and Parker go <50 you’ve just wasted 2 trades.
And don’t trade premiums, esepecially after 1 round!
Looking at picking between Joyce and Wilkie for Collins, wether its this week or next.
Checked their JLT stats and Joyce looks to be pretty much the same as he was Rd 1 while Wilkie hardly got on the field. Would be interesting to know why Wilkie was played so little in JLT.
Watching the first quarter of yeterdays game it looks like Joyce is playing on the taller forward and Wilkie the smaller guy. Am I right there?
Does this move Joyce out when Brown returns?
Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 25, 2019, 04:39:03 PM
Looking at picking between Joyce and Wilkie for Collins, wether its this week or next.
Checked their JLT stats and Joyce looks to be pretty much the same as he was Rd 1 while Wilkie hardly got on the field. Would be interesting to know why Wilkie was played so little in JLT.
Watching the first quarter of yeterdays game it looks like Joyce is playing on the taller forward and Wilkie the smaller guy. Am I right there?
Does this move Joyce out when Brown returns?
The general consensus is Joyce will be replaced by Brown. Wilkie would have been pushed out by Roberton but seems as though he will have a chance to cement his spot.
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Quote from: Bones Bombers on March 25, 2019, 04:39:03 PM
Looking at picking between Joyce and Wilkie for Collins, wether its this week or next.
Checked their JLT stats and Joyce looks to be pretty much the same as he was Rd 1 while Wilkie hardly got on the field. Would be interesting to know why Wilkie was played so little in JLT.
Watching the first quarter of yeterdays game it looks like Joyce is playing on the taller forward and Wilkie the smaller guy. Am I right there?
Does this move Joyce out when Brown returns?
The general consensus is Joyce will be replaced by Brown. Wilkie would have been pushed out by Roberton but seems as though he will have a chance to cement his spot.
Thanks MS. Cant say I know much about these guys.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 25, 2019, 01:57:40 PM
No trades should happen this week in my opinion. Wait a week and see how everyone goes. If Collins and Balta both score 80+ this week and Wilkie and Parker go <50 you’ve just wasted 2 trades.
And don’t trade premiums, esepecially after 1 round!
So I shouldn't do Libba to Rocky/Sheed???
A rookie for your watch list who should get a game in the next week or so. Curtis Taylor MID/FWD $117k
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No trades should happen this week in my opinion. Wait a week and see how everyone goes. If Collins and Balta both score 80+ this week and Wilkie and Parker go <50 you’ve just wasted 2 trades.
And don’t trade premiums, esepecially after 1 round!
So I shouldn't do Libba to Rocky/Sheed???
Probably not... but how tempting is it??
Just imagining if I'd started Rocky and Sheed instead of Crouch and Libba makes me so sad :(
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 25, 2019, 01:49:15 PM
Anyone watch the Hawks vs Crows? I decided to start Cousins as one of my on field rookies, but didn't seem to do that well even though he had a fair bit of the ball. Was it due to poor DE, or should I look at using a corrective trade on him? Will definitely wait another week, but just wanted some idea on how he actually went.
Disposal wasn't great. Sting had gone out of it when he started using it better so he didn't get as many points for some of his better play. Probably worth holding
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Quote from: Money Shot on March 25, 2019, 01:57:40 PM
No trades should happen this week in my opinion. Wait a week and see how everyone goes. If Collins and Balta both score 80+ this week and Wilkie and Parker go <50 you’ve just wasted 2 trades.
And don’t trade premiums, esepecially after 1 round!
So I shouldn't do Libba to Rocky/Sheed???
Probably not... but how tempting is it??
Just imagining if I'd started Rocky and Sheed instead of Crouch and Libba makes me so sad :(
Libba was actually one of the better players on the ground and would have scored more if he cleaned his disposal up. Giving him another week and if he scores under 90 he turns into Sheed or Rocky (if they ton up again)
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Quote from: Money Shot on March 25, 2019, 01:57:40 PM
No trades should happen this week in my opinion. Wait a week and see how everyone goes. If Collins and Balta both score 80+ this week and Wilkie and Parker go <50 you’ve just wasted 2 trades.
And don’t trade premiums, esepecially after 1 round!
So I shouldn't do Libba to Rocky/Sheed???
Probably not... but how tempting is it??
Just imagining if I'd started Rocky and Sheed instead of Crouch and Libba makes me so sad :(
Libba was actually one of the better players on the ground and would have scored more if he cleaned his disposal up. Giving him another week and if he scores under 90 he turns into Sheed or Rocky (if they ton up again)
This. People need to research on why scores were crap. Libba played well just his efficiency was poo
DE was down, but you have to remember in close games like that points really become valuable, and when a player doesn't get too much of the ball not only do they not score, but their score generally goes backwards a little as the 3300 needs to be spread and the guys getting the ball in close games have inflated points which need to come from those who aren't getting it
I watched the last qtr and Libba only had a few cheap handballs etc
Same thing happened with Moore on Fri night - both Libba and Moore were on track for 95-100 games at 3/4 time but didn't do much in the last so barely scored
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DE was down, but you have to remember in close games like that points really become valuable, and when a player doesn't get too much of the ball not only do they not score, but their score generally goes backwards a little as the 3300 needs to be spread and the guys getting the ball in close games have inflated points which need to come from those who aren't getting it
I watched the last qtr and Libba only had a few cheap handballs etc
Same thing happened with Moore on Fri night - both Libba and Moore were on track for 95-100 games at 3/4 time but didn't do much in the last so barely scored
He also got stuck on the bench and couldn't get back on for a fair bit in the last. He'll be fine
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 25, 2019, 06:53:51 PM
DE was down, but you have to remember in close games like that points really become valuable, and when a player doesn't get too much of the ball not only do they not score, but their score generally goes backwards a little as the 3300 needs to be spread and the guys getting the ball in close games have inflated points which need to come from those who aren't getting it
I watched the last qtr and Libba only had a few cheap handballs etc
Same thing happened with Moore on Fri night - both Libba and Moore were on track for 95-100 games at 3/4 time but didn't do much in the last so barely scored
He also got stuck on the bench and couldn't get back on for a fair bit in the last. He'll be fine
First game of the real stuff as well for quite a while. He’ll be better for the run
Could mean Balta gets another run
https://twitter.com/aflratings/status/1110089452318126080?s=21
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wce supporters, egos with no bounds. unfortunately i see them being top four again this season.
Hiarious from a Bombers fan, how you feeling now btw champ ;D
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wce supporters, egos with no bounds. unfortunately i see them being top four again this season.
Hiarious from a Bombers fan, how you feeling now btw champ ;D
Haha could be seen as proving his point. And after the Eagles losing to Brisbane too.
(Obviously the Bombers are still pretty rubbish but I saw that coming)
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Anyone watch the Hawks vs Crows? I decided to start Cousins as one of my on field rookies, but didn't seem to do that well even though he had a fair bit of the ball. Was it due to poor DE, or should I look at using a corrective trade on him? Will definitely wait another week, but just wanted some idea on how he actually went.
Disposal wasn't great. Sting had gone out of it when he started using it better so he didn't get as many points for some of his better play. Probably worth holding
Cheers mate, guess I get another chance to see what he can do.
Any Melbourne fans have any opinion on if Hore will hold his spot? Surely Melbourne are a chance to drop multiple blokes
Quote from: Money Shot on March 25, 2019, 01:57:40 PM
No trades should happen this week in my opinion. Wait a week and see how everyone goes. If Collins and Balta both score 80+ this week and Wilkie and Parker go <50 you’ve just wasted 2 trades.
And don’t trade premiums, esepecially after 1 round!
Everyone's team/situation is different.
If Collins spuds again (I think he will,not worth the extra cash playing lock down defender) and Balta gets one more game, flops then dropped that's 2 trades needed next week.
If just 1 more injury/dropping of rookies happen you're stuck with 3 trades needed to be done before price changes. If it's more you're really stuffed because you refused to sway from the "never trade after 1 round" mantra.
It's happened to me too many times. Every time I don't at least corrective rookie trade round 1 it happens. I get stuck with crap rookies either not playing or not scoring
You get 4 trades to fix your team before price changes.
Everyone's situation is different, but I've found trade hard early, get the right rookies, fix any mistakes then sit works best for me.
Last year I got flowered not trading Brayshaw early and ZGL, Ryan and Venables went down. Got stuck with a 200+k rookie on the bench doing $&#@ all cos he was scoring half of what Kelly and Holman were.
If I'd traded to Lachie Fogarty I would have had 100k and a better cash cow. Instead I had to wait ages for another mid rookie to come along.
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Any Melbourne fans have any opinion on if Hore will hold his spot? Surely Melbourne are a chance to drop multiple blokes
Not panic stations just yet - Goodwin will keep things calm
Just May for Frost at the moment and then Hore could be a week by week proposition depending on how Kolodjashnij performs in the VFL
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Any Melbourne fans have any opinion on if Hore will hold his spot? Surely Melbourne are a chance to drop multiple blokes
Not panic stations just yet - Goodwin will keep things calm
Just May for Frost at the moment and then Hore could be a week by week proposition depending on how Kolodjashnij performs in the VFL
Article on HS today suggesting KK could come in this week
Guess we'll just have to wait and see
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Any Melbourne fans have any opinion on if Hore will hold his spot? Surely Melbourne are a chance to drop multiple blokes
Not panic stations just yet - Goodwin will keep things calm
Just May for Frost at the moment and then Hore could be a week by week proposition depending on how Kolodjashnij performs in the VFL
Article on HS today suggesting KK could come in this week
Guess we'll just have to wait and see
Possible, but he was still a little underdone in the practice match on sunday
The skills in general were pretty poor throughout the whole round. So many dropped chest marks, fumbles, shanked kicks etc. Maybe it was a weird batch of Sherrins with extra gloss. I got no idea, but it was an issue across all the games.
Having said that, apart from the first intercept mark in the first minute of the game, Sam Collins looks like a reserve grade footballer playing AFL football because the Suns are turrible. He had the exact same issue with dropped marks but he was also apparently the VFL's best intercept mark player last year. Still looked way off it and I'm tempted to pull the trigger on Duursma early since I didn't start him.
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The skills in general were pretty poor throughout the whole round. So many dropped chest marks, fumbles, shanked kicks etc. Maybe it was a weird batch of Sherrins with extra gloss. I got no idea, but it was an issue across all the games.
Having said that, apart from the first intercept mark in the first minute of the game, Sam Collins looks like a reserve grade footballer playing AFL football because the Suns are turrible. He had the exact same issue with dropped marks but he was also apparently the VFL's best intercept mark player last year. Still looked way off it and I'm tempted to pull the trigger on Duursma early since I didn't start him.
If ya got $7K in the bank & Burgess on the bench I would rather hock him than Collins. Collins has JS & could maybe go 60-80 next week. Can't see Burgess doing that.
No Burgess since the GC forward line is the factory of sadness. Hore and Scrimshaw my other two bench defenders and they could be an issue in a fortnight as well. While I nailed a few picks, those defensive rookies could turn sour quick, same with Lewis Pierce. I feel Duursma has just a good as JS as Collins and is cheaper. Might be worth making that move now for me.
Burgess had a good score in JLT1. Since then, he has had a shadow. Do we think he can work through that pretty quickly?
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 26, 2019, 12:56:40 AM
No Burgess since the GC forward line is the factory of sadness. Hore and Scrimshaw my other two bench defenders and they could be an issue in a fortnight as well. While I nailed a few picks, those defensive rookies could turn sour quick, same with Lewis Pierce. I feel Duursma has just a good as JS as Collins and is cheaper. Might be worth making that move now for me.
I disagree Dursma JS is as good as Collins but if he can play 7-8 games lets say before the byes who cares. Hopefully they do not coincide with any Clark/Scrim dropped/managed. I do not have Collins but he is a hold for mine, at least for this week. These rookies do get dropped/managed so it's not just about points/dollars to some degree. Gotta be careful to not waste a trade just avoiding a donut (Dursma/Clark/Scrim combo with Burg/Hore bench) or Burgess on field close enough lol, nah just kidding Burgo, would much rather you than a donut. Collins plays every game barring injury. At least that's the way I see it at this stage + I think Collins is capable of posting a score. Not sure how big but more scope than many other rooks. I know he cost more at the start but it is hard to see any semi decent scores from Pet, Burg, Gibb (all on my bench). Lol @ factory of sadness. Imagine the sh** hitting the fan if the Saints lost. OMG.
What are the odds Collins pumps out an 80 and suddenly everyone is doing a 180?
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Could mean Balta gets another run
https://twitter.com/aflratings/status/1110089452318126080?s=21
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Quote from: batt on March 26, 2019, 07:45:30 AM
What are the odds Collins pumps out an 80 and suddenly everyone is doing a 180?
I highly doubt it but it'd be very nice.
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Could mean Balta gets another run
https://twitter.com/aflratings/status/1110089452318126080?s=21
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Richmond: " .. it would be pretty unlikely that we'd pick him this week" Neil Balme on Ryan Garthwaite via @BenGuthrie_
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Could mean Balta gets another run
https://twitter.com/aflratings/status/1110089452318126080?s=21
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Richmond: " .. it would be pretty unlikely that we'd pick him this week" Neil Balme on Ryan Garthwaite via @BenGuthrie_
Balta will take Rance's spot this week.
They don't want to rush Garth back but when he is ready should slot right in.
Doesn't look good for Balta in a few weeks time.
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Could mean Balta gets another run
https://twitter.com/aflratings/status/1110089452318126080?s=21
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Richmond: " .. it would be pretty unlikely that we'd pick him this week" Neil Balme on Ryan Garthwaite via @BenGuthrie_
Balta will take Rance's spot this week.
They don't want to rush Garth back but when he is ready should slot right in.
Doesn't look good for Balta in a few weeks time.
A lot can happen in a few weeks, and hopefully that means Balta finding himself a spot
Balta will be fine imo
Gotta prove a bit more this week though.
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Balta will be fine imo
Gotta prove a bit more this week though.
Yeah Balta was OK in real life. Only got 50% game time, his job was to provide a target when Lynch was benched, and relieve Nank in the ruck, both of which he did well, and kicked a goal.
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Balta will be fine imo
Gotta prove a bit more this week though.
Yeah Balta was OK in real life. Only got 50% game time, his job was to provide a target when Lynch was benched, and relieve Nank in the ruck, both of which he did well, and kicked a goal.
He was looking like a genius pick at quarter time!
I think he still has excellent scoring potential, he just needs to settle into a role in the team.
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I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
That’s hilarious
+1
I think SL and GL are referring to when JJK and Darling have sat down after they have 10 goals between them ... probably half way through the 3 term
Such a typical bias WCE supporter response, honestly.
If your mob get within 10 goals then you should be very very proud of your team.
@eaglesman still not sighted since this post. Hope he's ok!
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I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
That’s hilarious
+1
I think SL and GL are referring to when JJK and Darling have sat down after they have 10 goals between them ... probably half way through the 3 term
Such a typical bias WCE supporter response, honestly.
If your mob get within 10 goals then you should be very very proud of your team.
@eaglesman still not sighted since this post. Hope he's ok!
In fairness Lions only got within 44 points of the eagles so if the call was they wont get within 7 goals then it would have been correct.
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I might go Petrucelle over Parker tbh
Having Parker as a slow burn downgrade/correction option a few rounds in might be handy
Not even a contest between the 2 imo. Ya just know the Ferrari is gonna hit the scoreboard this weekend. 3+ goals coming up. Watch.
Someone will have to when JJK and Darling get shut down
This man knows
That’s hilarious
+1
I think SL and GL are referring to when JJK and Darling have sat down after they have 10 goals between them ... probably half way through the 3 term
Such a typical bias WCE supporter response, honestly.
If your mob get within 10 goals then you should be very very proud of your team.
@eaglesman still not sighted since this post. Hope he's ok!
In fairness Lions only got within 44 points of the eagles so if the call was they wont get within 7 goals then it would have been correct.
@SL and GL - all of us WCE have a severe bout of food poisoning at the moment - that is the problem with eating crow ::)
From Hardwick’s press conference:
With Rance ruled out after rupturing his ACL in the Tigers’ win over Carlton, swingman Noah Balta may be considered to hold down his key position slot.
Balta booted a goal against the Blues in his debut, but may be shifted back, where he performed strongly during the VFL in 2018, with fellow defender Ryan Garthwaite unlikely to be considered.
“He played really well down back in our VFL side, so once again it’s about whether we throw him in the deep end or do we take a little bit of time to look at him and explore that option,†Hardwick said.
“Physically speaking he’s as close to Alex as we’ve got, he’s incredibly athletic but we’ve got a number of other players that can play that role we feel.
“These are all decisions that we’ll take in selection this afternoon.â€
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but Rance has averaged above 80 (and three times 90+) for the last 8 years. Balta will, therefore, average 80+ from here on. Definitely going to play him on the field every week.
Sounds to me he’s rather not pick him really, but not many options...
Quote from: js19 on March 27, 2019, 03:04:56 PM
Sounds to me he’s rather not pick him really, but not many options...
Nah he literally said that they have a number of players who can play the role. So they do have options.
If Balta gets the nod and plays well he'll stay.
Quote from: LaHug on March 27, 2019, 02:57:04 PM
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but Rance has averaged above 80 (and three times 90+) for the last 8 years. Balta will, therefore, average 80+ from here on. Definitely going to play him on the field every week.
Lol. While I think Rance is a bit overrated, he's miles ahead of Balta. Wishful thinking but I hope you're right.
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Quote from: LaHug on March 27, 2019, 02:57:04 PM
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but Rance has averaged above 80 (and three times 90+) for the last 8 years. Balta will, therefore, average 80+ from here on. Definitely going to play him on the field every week.
Lol. While I think Rance is a bit overrated, he's miles ahead of Balta. Wishful thinking but I hope you're right.
Balta > Rance
Well Balta is out...
Should I swap to Parker now or give it a week?
Quote from: Money Shot on March 27, 2019, 06:22:10 PM
Well Balta is out...
Should I swap to Parker now or give it a week?
I would hold and see how Parker goes against Essendon.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 27, 2019, 06:22:10 PM
Well Balta is out...
Should I swap to Parker now or give it a week?
Parker looks to have decent JS. Balta would be long odds to get another game.
I'd consider making the trade. I probably will.
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Well Balta is out...
Should I swap to Parker now or give it a week?
I would hold and see how Parker goes against Essendon.
Reckon I might do it now
Means I still have 2 trades next week, and even though I know Parker won't score like last week often he has zero JS issues
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Well Balta is out...
Should I swap to Parker now or give it a week?
I would hold and see how Parker goes against Essendon.
Reckon I might do it now
Means I still have 2 trades next week, and even though I know Parker won't score like last week often he has zero JS issues
Yep I’ve put Parker in and I’m pretty happy with it.
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Quote from: Money Shot on March 27, 2019, 06:22:10 PM
Well Balta is out...
Should I swap to Parker now or give it a week?
I would hold and see how Parker goes against Essendon.
Reckon I might do it now
Means I still have 2 trades next week, and even though I know Parker won't score like last week often he has zero JS issues
Yep I’ve put Parker in and I’m pretty happy with it.
On second thoughts, Pies only have Cox then a bunch of good small forwards - Balta could be have been dropped due to lack of need/match-up - and obviously Markov and Ellis help with Pies smalls
He could be a chance to return next week/soon perhaps
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Quote from: Fid on March 27, 2019, 06:26:54 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 27, 2019, 06:22:10 PM
Well Balta is out...
Should I swap to Parker now or give it a week?
I would hold and see how Parker goes against Essendon.
Reckon I might do it now
Means I still have 2 trades next week, and even though I know Parker won't score like last week often he has zero JS issues
Yep I’ve put Parker in and I’m pretty happy with it.
On second thoughts, Pies only have Cox then a bunch of good small forwards - Balta could be have been dropped due to lack of need/match-up - and obviously Markov and Ellis help with Pies smalls
He could be a chance to return next week/soon perhaps
That’s what I was thinking/hoping
Good JS in VFL supercoach
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Quote from: Fid on March 27, 2019, 06:26:54 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 27, 2019, 06:22:10 PM
Well Balta is out...
Should I swap to Parker now or give it a week?
I would hold and see how Parker goes against Essendon.
Reckon I might do it now
Means I still have 2 trades next week, and even though I know Parker won't score like last week often he has zero JS issues
Yep I’ve put Parker in and I’m pretty happy with it.
On second thoughts, Pies only have Cox then a bunch of good small forwards - Balta could be have been dropped due to lack of need/match-up - and obviously Markov and Ellis help with Pies smalls
He could be a chance to return next week/soon perhaps
That’s what I was thinking/hoping
Yep I’m holding him
KB just reminded me that we can use Balta to loop Setters next week and beyond too - so reckon it might actually be a hold for now and reassess next week
Quote from: js19 on March 27, 2019, 03:04:56 PM
Sounds to me he’s rather not pick him really, but not many options...
Nostril Darn Us...
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 27, 2019, 06:42:29 PM
KB just reminded me that we can use Balta to loop Setters next week and beyond too - so reckon it might actually be a hold for now and reassess next week
He was very poor in rd 1. Would rather the cash generation than a loophole at this stage of the year.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 27, 2019, 06:42:29 PM
KB just reminded me that we can use Balta to loop Setters next week and beyond too - so reckon it might actually be a hold for now and reassess next week
He was very poor in rd 1. Would rather the cash generation than a loophole at this stage of the year.
Yep. Cash generation over loophole.
Hoping for a fwd rookie named this week to pick up on the bubble in a couple. No standouts for a straight trade atm...
Quote from: js19 on March 27, 2019, 06:54:27 PM
Hoping for a fwd rookie named this week to pick up on the bubble in a couple. No standouts for a straight trade atm...
Curtis Taylor, my prediction ;)
Although a loophole is always good I would much prefer cash generation from Parker at this stage. I’ve pulled the trigger.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 27, 2019, 07:13:32 PM
Although a loophole is always good I would much prefer cash generation from Parker at this stage. I’ve pulled the trigger.
It’s not guaranteed cash though... what if Parker has a stinker and gets dropped/managed next week. Balta still out, Collins doesn’t return, Greene misses and Grundy/Gawn stink it up. Miers/Petrucelle score 100s and become ‘must haves’. This is when the rd2 correction trades become a real conundrum...
The loophole was a secondary benefit
The point still stands, it could be due to match ups and he could be back next week so trading him next week is still fine if he doesn't get the call up
Doesn't leave you with 2 trades for next week though, so I guess you'd need to weigh that up
At this stage, I think giving it a week might be my best option - hopefully I don't cop injuries this round
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 27, 2019, 07:25:37 PM
The loophole was a secondary benefit
The point still stands, it could be due to match ups and he could be back next week so trading him next week is still fine if he doesn't get the call up
Doesn't leave you with 2 trades for next week though, so I guess you'd need to weigh that up
At this stage, I think giving it a week might be my best option - hopefully I don't cop injuries this round
Also a good point. I’m undecided now.
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wce supporters, egos with no bounds. unfortunately i see them being top four again this season.
Hiarious from a Bombers fan, how you feeling now btw champ ;D
embarrassed, demoralised, flattened, angry, frustrated - did you see the sort of effort they put out. That type of thing is not a quick fix either. I could have lived with the poor ball handling etc as every team had poor execution but the bombers effort and commitment disgraced the club.
If the Greene rumour is true however, then I'm forced to trade Balta to Parker this week
Collins and Scrimshaw will also have some doubt around them as well. I think 1 trade this week might be a necessity
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 27, 2019, 07:25:37 PM
The loophole was a secondary benefit
The point still stands, it could be due to match ups and he could be back next week so trading him next week is still fine if he doesn't get the call up
Doesn't leave you with 2 trades for next week though, so I guess you'd need to weigh that up
At this stage, I think giving it a week might be my best option - hopefully I don't cop injuries this round
Worth holding with Rance done for the season, Garthwaite is more a third tall type so someone needs to come in. Will also leave the possibility Grundy down to Mummy & Balta up to Boak.
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If the Greene rumour is true however, then I'm forced to trade Balta to Parker this week
Greene rumour??
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If the Greene rumour is true however, then I'm forced to trade Balta to Parker this week
Greene rumour??
Out this week with general soreness
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If the Greene rumour is true however, then I'm forced to trade Balta to Parker this week
Greene rumour??
?
i posted in team announcements
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apparently was said on afl tonight greene not playing wont be on the plane has general soreness
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If the Greene rumour is true however, then I'm forced to trade Balta to Parker this week
Greene rumour??
?
Do you not read the other threads?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 27, 2019, 06:55:31 PM
apparently was said on afl tonight greene not playing wont be on the plane has general soreness
On my phone. Not the easiest forum to read on mobile. Apologies
(https://imgur.com/xBSHtXj.png)
Quote from: LaHug on March 27, 2019, 08:20:25 PM
On my phone. Not the easiest forum to read on mobile. Apologies
I must be in the minority who likes this forum on mobile
Took me a while to actually notice the Greene message on that image lol ;)
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Quote from: LaHug on March 27, 2019, 08:20:25 PM
On my phone. Not the easiest forum to read on mobile. Apologies
I must be in the minority who likes this forum on mobile
Took me a while to actually notice the Greene message on that image lol ;)
naughty boy
both you and Greene
Any thoughts on Corey Wagner?
He might be my best option for Balta, didn’t score too badly last week considering how Melbourne played
Quote from: jfitty on March 27, 2019, 09:54:53 PM
Any thoughts on Corey Wagner?
He might be my best option for Balta, didn’t score too badly last week considering how Melbourne played
JS?
In the mix had Wagner out for Kade Kolo this week.
Wouldn't be trading in any Melbourne rookies atm
Maybe Sparrow if he is on the bubble and named again. He looked impressive
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2019, 10:51:51 PM
Maybe Sparrow if he is on the bubble and named again. He looked impressive
Late inclusion for Lewis though, so not ideal, but yeah if he has a good game this week he might be an option
Either way, I wouldn't be going early and grabbing him this week - will likely have a hard time down at GMHBA
Lewis is playing HB and Sparrow looked to be at HF. If anything it's probably him or Spargo and he outplayed Spargo this week. Another solid performance and named round 3 he could be a nice sideways option for an underperforming rookie
Balta out >:(
Will Petrucelle survive with the potential Eagles in's
Quote from: sidvicious on March 28, 2019, 10:25:04 AM
Will Petrucelle survive with the potential Eagles in's
Based on the game I was watching - Waterman probably goes before Petrucelle.
i may have to do two trades next week even if i make two this week. If i decide to trade collins im not sure who to get out of Wilkie or Joyce. Who has the better JS + scoring ability?
JAY LOCKHART
Melbourne defender Jay Lockhart ($102,400 DEF/MID) was told he'd make his AFL debut for the Demons when they come up against the Cats on Saturday night.
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 28, 2019, 02:58:35 PM
i may have to do two trades next week even if i make two this week. If i decide to trade collins im not sure who to get out of Wilkie or Joyce. Who has the better JS + scoring ability?
I don't know where Acres is at but him & Brown would come into that side which means one of those 2 rooks goes I suppose. Pick the one who is named. Not much help I know.
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Maybe Sparrow if he is on the bubble and named again. He looked impressive
Late inclusion for Lewis though, so not ideal, but yeah if he has a good game this week he might be an option
Either way, I wouldn't be going early and grabbing him this week - will likely have a hard time down at GMHBA
I'm probably going to have to go Balta to one of the Melbourne rookies, frustrating position to be in.
I've looked into Sparrow a little further, and he could be worth a go a week early. Goodwin praised him after the game, and he was their first selection in last year's draft. We'll see what happens at team selection time..
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Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 28, 2019, 02:58:35 PM
i may have to do two trades next week even if i make two this week. If i decide to trade collins im not sure who to get out of Wilkie or Joyce. Who has the better JS + scoring ability?
I don't know where Acres is at but him & Brown would come into that side which means one of those 2 rooks goes I suppose. Pick the one who is named. Not much help I know.
okay thanks mate
Surely Balta is back next week now for ruck support? Surely Richmond wouldn't play Tom Lynch in the ruck and risk him getting injured as well.
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Surely Balta is back next week now for ruck support? Surely Richmond wouldn't play Tom Lynch in the ruck and risk him getting injured as well.
Yep gotta hold now
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Surely Balta is back next week now for ruck support? Surely Richmond wouldn't play Tom Lynch in the ruck and risk him getting injured as well.
Yep gotta hold now
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Surely Balta is back next week now for ruck support? Surely Richmond wouldn't play Tom Lynch in the ruck and risk him getting injured as well.
Yep gotta hold now
A bit late to hold for those that traded him. For what it's worth, Parker looks better for cash gen anyway
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Surely Balta is back next week now for ruck support? Surely Richmond wouldn't play Tom Lynch in the ruck and risk him getting injured as well.
Yep gotta hold now
A bit late to hold for those that traded him. For what it's worth, Parker looks better for cash gen anyway
Don't expect 80s from Parker every week
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Quote from: Rusty00 on March 29, 2019, 10:51:49 AM
Surely Balta is back next week now for ruck support? Surely Richmond wouldn't play Tom Lynch in the ruck and risk him getting injured as well.
Yep gotta hold now
A bit late to hold for those that traded him. For what it's worth, Parker looks better for cash gen anyway
Don't expect 80s from Parker every week
Agree
Of course not. But don't expect Balta's JLT scoring when he's going to play a KPP defender role
If Balta comes back in, will he definitely take on a KPP defender role?
Quote from: oh_lol on March 29, 2019, 05:10:01 PM
If Balta comes back in, will he definitely take on a KPP defender role?
I reckon Balta will go back.
Someone like Callum Moore might come in the forward line, or we just play Lynch and the small forwards.
But who knows.
Quote from: oh_lol on March 29, 2019, 05:10:01 PM
If Balta comes back in, will he definitely take on a KPP defender role?
Balta played CHB in the ressies, with Grimes & Rance out he's a certainty.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 29, 2019, 01:38:24 PM
Don't expect 80s from Parker every week
Damn Straight!
nobody is expecting 80 from parker every week
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nobody is expecting 80 from parker every week
By looking at him, Parker expects 80+ from Parker each week... ;D
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Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 29, 2019, 06:33:06 PM
nobody is expecting 80 from parker every week
By looking at him, Parker expects 80+ from Parker each week... ;D
;D
Do we think Hore will get more games (assuming no injuries) or was he just keeping May's spot warm?
Quote from: tkringle on March 30, 2019, 11:30:08 AM
Do we think Hore will get more games (assuming no injuries) or was he just keeping May's spot warm?
Doesn't look good I think
Frost was expected to make way for May, but they dropped Hore instead
KK now comes into the side, and Lewis will be returning soon too
I think we have to punt Hore
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Quote from: tkringle on March 30, 2019, 11:30:08 AM
Do we think Hore will get more games (assuming no injuries) or was he just keeping May's spot warm?
Doesn't look good I think
Frost was expected to make way for May, but they dropped Hore instead
KK now comes into the side, and Lewis will be returning soon too
I think we have to punt Hore
Thinking of making the move this week so I can deal with Dusty next week (will need 2 trades there). Already have Clarke and Duursma. Is Wilkie the next best option?
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Quote from: tkringle on March 30, 2019, 11:30:08 AM
Do we think Hore will get more games (assuming no injuries) or was he just keeping May's spot warm?
Doesn't look good I think
Frost was expected to make way for May, but they dropped Hore instead
KK now comes into the side, and Lewis will be returning soon too
I think we have to punt Hore
Thinking of making the move this week so I can deal with Dusty next week (will need 2 trades there). Already have Clarke and Duursma. Is Wilkie the next best option?
I hope he is, because Hore to Wilkie is what I will be doing today
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Quote from: tkringle on March 30, 2019, 11:30:08 AM
Do we think Hore will get more games (assuming no injuries) or was he just keeping May's spot warm?
Doesn't look good I think
Frost was expected to make way for May, but they dropped Hore instead
KK now comes into the side, and Lewis will be returning soon too
I think we have to punt Hore
Thinking of making the move this week so I can deal with Dusty next week (will need 2 trades there). Already have Clarke and Duursma. Is Wilkie the next best option?
I hope he is, because Hore to Wilkie is what I will be doing today
Must say I'm surprised you are making rookie trades after 1 round, this seems premature. I'll most likely do the Wilkie trade too but I'll be doing it with a full 2 game sample & a sighter of the Melbourne defender who has DPP & is 102k, that could be huge for those carrying Moore.
The DPP is D/M and not D/F. Probably handy with Duursma though
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 30, 2019, 02:14:12 PM
The DPP is D/M and not D/F. Probably handy with Duursma though
Even better given I'm looking at swinging Duursma back to the mids so I can squeeze Lloyd in.
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Quote from: tkringle on March 30, 2019, 11:30:08 AM
Do we think Hore will get more games (assuming no injuries) or was he just keeping May's spot warm?
Doesn't look good I think
Frost was expected to make way for May, but they dropped Hore instead
KK now comes into the side, and Lewis will be returning soon too
I think we have to punt Hore
Thinking of making the move this week so I can deal with Dusty next week (will need 2 trades there). Already have Clarke and Duursma. Is Wilkie the next best option?
I hope he is, because Hore to Wilkie is what I will be doing today
Must say I'm surprised you are making rookie trades after 1 round, this seems premature. I'll most likely do the Wilkie trade too but I'll be doing it with a full 2 game sample & a sighter of the Melbourne defender who has DPP & is 102k, that could be huge for those carrying Moore.
Ideally you wait. But if 2 other trades pop up next week it leaves u stuck.
For example I have Hore, Wagner, Burgess and Greene as possible issues. If I don't move on one and Greene doesn't play next week that's too many trades needed,even though I'm probably going to leave Wagner as a loop until Hately or perhaps Lockhart on the bubble.
Any other rookie dropped or injured and I'm in all sorts.
I've been caught out too many times following the "never trade after 1 round" mantra.
It can be risky to trade but can be even riskier NOT to.
Exactly
I need 2 trades next week, so I'm going early on rookies this week
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Do we think Hore will get more games (assuming no injuries) or was he just keeping May's spot warm?
Doesn't look good I think
Frost was expected to make way for May, but they dropped Hore instead
KK now comes into the side, and Lewis will be returning soon too
I think we have to punt Hore
Thinking of making the move this week so I can deal with Dusty next week (will need 2 trades there). Already have Clarke and Duursma. Is Wilkie the next best option?
I hope he is, because Hore to Wilkie is what I will be doing today
Must say I'm surprised you are making rookie trades after 1 round, this seems premature. I'll most likely do the Wilkie trade too but I'll be doing it with a full 2 game sample & a sighter of the Melbourne defender who has DPP & is 102k, that could be huge for those carrying Moore.
Ideally you wait. But if 2 other trades pop up next week it leaves u stuck.
For example I have Hore, Wagner, Burgess and Greene as possible issues. If I don't move on one and Greene doesn't play next week that's too many trades needed,even though I'm probably going to leave Wagner as a loop until Hately or perhaps Lockhart on the bubble.
Any other rookie dropped or injured and I'm in all sorts.
I've been caught out too many times following the "never trade after 1 round" mantra.
It can be risky to trade but can be even riskier NOT to.
And what if Wilkie gets dropped? And/or Hore makes a return?
I've just observed plenty of people dumping Balta & now he looks set for at least 4 weeks in the firsts. At the end of the day rookies will be in & out & generally it doesn't matter because you can't cull them all at once. These are the very things that come back to bite when you are left with no trades.
Rozee looking the goods as a swingman with Moore at the moment... How to get him in though...?
Setters can't get involved
Butters has legit skills. He is so clean and damaging with the ball
Walsh has a huge tank and work rate but has been butchering it when under pressure
Gibbons was everywhere early but is now struggling with the rest of the side
Duursma has been finding the pill and just been unclean with his disposal
Drew is the quiet achiever and has been building
Rozee hitting the scoreboard and is working over our half backs
Quote from: js19 on March 30, 2019, 06:23:16 PM
Rozee looking the goods as a swingman with Moore at the moment... How to get him in though...?
Straight swap for Collins if you have him
Duursma 79AF 49SC at 3/4 time :o
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Do we think Hore will get more games (assuming no injuries) or was he just keeping May's spot warm?
Doesn't look good I think
Frost was expected to make way for May, but they dropped Hore instead
KK now comes into the side, and Lewis will be returning soon too
I think we have to punt Hore
Thinking of making the move this week so I can deal with Dusty next week (will need 2 trades there). Already have Clarke and Duursma. Is Wilkie the next best option?
Glad I didn’t do this and waited to see Wilkie’s 2nd game
Wilkie scored horrible. But i guess saints won so team probs won't go unchanged
Hore will be coming straight back into the side next week after that abomination of a performance from the Dees.
May is injured as well
I should have traded Collins or Burgess :(
Speedy spaghetto showed his skills tonight ... crazy acceleration ... hoping his scoring will do the same. Happy with the 56 on the bench
I need to waste 2 trades on Reynolds and Wicks :'( Idk why I used 4 zero players
Quote from: Gigantor on March 30, 2019, 11:20:35 PM
I should have traded Collins or Burgess :(
Shouldn't have traded anyone after 1 round and this is why haha
How likely is Tom Atkins to keep his spot? I'm thinking of changing my structure and going Dusty -> Atkins and my worst performing back rookie (most probably Burgess) -> Lloyd. Allows me to play one of Constable/Butters instead of Wilkie/Scrim.
Quote from: Mongoose528 on March 31, 2019, 08:15:52 AM
How likely is Tom Atkins to keep his spot? I'm thinking of changing my structure and going Dusty -> Atkins and my worst performing back rookie (most probably Burgess) -> Lloyd. Allows me to play one of Constable/Butters instead of Wilkie/Scrim.
8 tackles (3 inside 50), 12 disposals (8 contested) and attending centre bounces.
Pressure, particularly inside 50 was a deficiency of the cats for the last few years, he won’t be going anywhere.
who is out when touhy comes back?
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who is out when touhy comes back?
Henry got injured last night, depending on the severity I'd say him.
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How likely is Tom Atkins to keep his spot? I'm thinking of changing my structure and going Dusty -> Atkins and my worst performing back rookie (most probably Burgess) -> Lloyd. Allows me to play one of Constable/Butters instead of Wilkie/Scrim.
8 tackles (3 inside 50), 12 disposals (8 contested) and attending centre bounces.
Pressure, particularly inside 50 was a deficiency of the cats for the last few years, he won’t be going anywhere.
He's playing his role perfectly. Won't get dropped with those numbers
Contemplating a move to get Rozee in, Collins / Hore / Dusty to play with
LDU is on fire right now. Looking like he should easily crack the ton the way he is going
LDU looks the goods. 80 Rd 1 and on 88 with a few mins left in the third. 197k so lots of cash to be made.
Quote from: _wato on March 31, 2019, 03:01:16 PM
LDU looks the goods. 80 Rd 1 and on 88 with a few mins left in the third. 197k so lots of cash to be made.
But who do you trade to him? Would have to trade out Libba?
Libba to LDU is a possibility. Let's see how they both go
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LDU looks the goods. 80 Rd 1 and on 88 with a few mins left in the third. 197k so lots of cash to be made.
But who do you trade to him? Would have to trade out Libba?
Thinking Dusty > LDU
and Hore to Lloyd.
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Quote from: _wato on March 31, 2019, 03:01:16 PM
LDU looks the goods. 80 Rd 1 and on 88 with a few mins left in the third. 197k so lots of cash to be made.
But who do you trade to him? Would have to trade out Libba?
Thinking Dusty > LDU
and Hore to Lloyd.
Can't decide between Dusty to Neale or Dusty to LDU :-\
Neale
Please
Hands up who punted Collins?
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Hands up who punted Collins?
Not me, did bench him though. That intercept mark he took to ice the game was why I picked him!
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Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Hands up who punted Collins?
Not me, did bench him though. That intercept mark he took to ice the game was why I picked him!
I can't believe there are people who did punt him after one game.. never considered it. Did bench him though.
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Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Hands up who punted Collins?
Not me, did bench him though. That intercept mark he took to ice the game was why I picked him!
I can't believe there are people who did punt him after one game.. never considered it. Did bench him though.
+1 ...
Quote from: GoLions on March 31, 2019, 07:30:29 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Hands up who punted Collins?
Not me, did bench him though. That intercept mark he took to ice the game was why I picked him!
Yeah, good player & was also good at Freo. Perfect lesson as to why you need a 2 game sample with rookies.
Got close. Probably would have if Ridley was named. Didn't watch the game but it looks like he was good this week
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Hands up who punted Collins?
Kept him on field ;D
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 31, 2019, 07:38:23 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Hands up who punted Collins?
Kept him on field ;D
nice, I didn't start him, but he may come in for Ridley this week.
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Hands up who punted Collins?
Wait Collins flowering played???
FFS I only traded him because I had 3 defenders named out and unfortunately he was the worse value for $
flower me.
So my mid rookies are walsh scott(butters atkins gibbons)
Would you trade one for constable this week
I'm actually filthy about trading out Collins and him playing
Very poor research by me
I could have gone into round 3 without a single trade used - something I have never done.
Quote from: sammy123 on March 31, 2019, 08:29:26 PM
So my mid rookies are walsh scott(butters atkins gibbons)
Would you trade one for constable this week
Yes. He looks really good
Got all the rookies I want now.
Defence - Clark, Duursma, Wilkie, Burgess (only missing Scrimshaw but not too fussed)
Midfield - Walsh, LDU, Constable, Butters, Scott, Atkins (only missing Cousins?)
Forward - Drew, Setterfield, Petruccelle, Parker (don't think I'm missing anyone?
Only issue for me now is 4 trades used to make corrections which is 2 more than I wanted so gotta be careful with trades moving forward. Have to hope 1/2 of Smith/BRouch/Greene become keepers for me. Cash flow should be awesome though and have all the big prems I want bar Lloyd and a few midfield guys but they'll be upgrade targets anyway.
Really hoping Hore comes back in for May, the rest of my rookies are about right otherwise
Quote from: jfitty on March 31, 2019, 08:52:07 PM
Really hoping Hore comes back in for May, the rest of my rookies are about right otherwise
Yep same here, really want LDU, may be tempting to yeet Atkins or Gibbons to him but we'll see how the week unfolds.
Quote from: jfitty on March 31, 2019, 08:52:07 PM
Really hoping Hore comes back in for May, the rest of my rookies are about right otherwise
If so I'll probably hold fire on all trading, first time ever I will have 30 trades heading into round 3.
Quote from: Ricochet on March 31, 2019, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on March 31, 2019, 08:29:26 PM
So my mid rookies are walsh scott(butters atkins gibbons)
Would you trade one for constable this week
Yes. He looks really good
Who would you trade to get him atkins or gibbons
LDU the only rookie I haven't got that looks good, but I'm happy to pass on him I think. Looks very good and should make cash, but with bugger all money in the bank the only way I could get him is by dumping Dusty to him and I don't think that's worth it - would rather trade Dusty to another prem
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Hands up who punted Collins?
8) 8) 8) looped wilke with Hore, no good kept Collins on ground. Good result.
Parker is the one I missed that I think I need. Probably going to need to be Balta or Hore that goes for him, even if they're back this week.
Did Scott legit score 24 today? He was on more than that before I left the house and that was with a quarter and a bit to play. That hurts considering I had Constable and Butters on the bench.
I brought in Duursma for Ridley last week. Looking at all the rookies 220k and under the ones I am probably missing (from an average perspective) are Rozee, LDU and Powell/Miers.
LDU the only one worth breaking the bank for but I don't have the cash to upgrade Gibbons. Miers for Balta I could consider if Balta isn't named, but I still don't think it's worth burning the trade at this point.
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 01, 2019, 12:12:33 AM
Did Scott legit score 24 today? He was on more than that before I left the house and that was with a quarter and a bit to play. That hurts considering I had Constable and Butters on the bench.
He was on 18 at quarter time :-\
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 01, 2019, 12:25:56 AM
He was on 18 at quarter time :-\
I'm probably not alone in fielding him this week, but it puts a dagger through my already down week. Especially with Consable and Butters on the bench.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 31, 2019, 09:36:51 PM
LDU the only rookie I haven't got that looks good, but I'm happy to pass on him I think. Looks very good and should make cash, but with bugger all money in the bank the only way I could get him is by dumping Dusty to him and I don't think that's worth it - would rather trade Dusty to another prem
I was thinking the same, but realised I can go Dusty to LDU then Ridley to Lloyd.
What are people's thoughts on LDU before the price rise?
Quote from: Jalapeno on April 01, 2019, 08:09:20 AM
What are people's thoughts on LDU before the price rise?
He will make cash but he’s expensive to begin with.
He’s not essential in my opinion if your other rookies all look good.
I’m not getting him.
Quote from: enzedder on April 01, 2019, 08:26:19 AM
Quote from: Jalapeno on April 01, 2019, 08:09:20 AM
What are people's thoughts on LDU before the price rise?
He will make cash but he’s expensive to begin with.
He’s not essential in my opinion if your other rookies all look good.
I’m not getting him.
Exactly this. Because I ran deep in mids (Libba M7, don't have anyone worth culling like Dusty), I already have Walsh, Scott, Constable, Butters. I'm passing on LDU
Quote from: LaHug on April 01, 2019, 08:35:56 AM
Quote from: enzedder on April 01, 2019, 08:26:19 AM
Quote from: Jalapeno on April 01, 2019, 08:09:20 AM
What are people's thoughts on LDU before the price rise?
He will make cash but he’s expensive to begin with.
He’s not essential in my opinion if your other rookies all look good.
I’m not getting him.
Exactly this. Because I ran deep in mids (Libba M7, don't have anyone worth culling like Dusty), I already have Walsh, Scott, Constable, Butters. I'm passing on LDU
Thanks guys. He looks like his JS s good soight bring him in. Who would be better out of Walsh and him for cash generation?
Quote from: Jalapeno on April 01, 2019, 08:59:54 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 01, 2019, 08:35:56 AM
Quote from: enzedder on April 01, 2019, 08:26:19 AM
Quote from: Jalapeno on April 01, 2019, 08:09:20 AM
What are people's thoughts on LDU before the price rise?
He will make cash but he’s expensive to begin with.
He’s not essential in my opinion if your other rookies all look good.
I’m not getting him.
Exactly this. Because I ran deep in mids (Libba M7, don't have anyone worth culling like Dusty), I already have Walsh, Scott, Constable, Butters. I'm passing on LDU
Thanks guys. He looks like his JS s good soight bring him in. Who would be better out of Walsh and him for cash generation?
If you have neither, I'd probably get LDU because he's scoring way better. I wouldn't sideways one to the other though.
im going Dusty to LDU and then Hore to Kelly.
I really liked LDU entering last season i thought he would win the rising star and be the best SCer. He is showing he is really good but just took some time to adjust as he was horrible last year.
Winning alot of Contested Ball which is a very good sign, got 15 CP (out of 26) on the week and 7 CP (out of 15). The good thing is he costs quite alot so he is a good stepping stone and his big round 2 score means he will go up to a good price.
If he is bad the next 2 weeks and say goes 60 60 he will rise to about 275k which is stepping stone price, you can dump him to a cheap rookie pocket the 150k which will almost be enough to turn a rookie into a fallen premo
Thats if he fails if he can keep up a 75 average then he will get up to 330k
Quote from: Holz on April 01, 2019, 09:22:30 AM
im going Dusty to LDU and then Hore to Kelly.
I really liked LDU entering last season i thought he would win the rising star and be the best SCer. He is showing he is really good but just took some time to adjust as he was horrible last year.
Winning alot of Contested Ball which is a very good sign, got 15 CP (out of 26) on the week and 7 CP (out of 15). The good thing is he costs quite alot so he is a good stepping stone and his big round 2 score means he will go up to a good price.
If he is bad the next 2 weeks and say goes 60 60 he will rise to about 275k which is stepping stone price, you can dump him to a cheap rookie pocket the 150k which will almost be enough to turn a rookie into a fallen premo
Thats if he fails if he can keep up a 75 average then he will get up to 330k
I'm thinking the same Holz, LDU has definitely taken some time to warm up to AFL level but is looking good, attending a lot of CB this year and think he will hold his spot.
I'm giving Heeney the flick and bringing him in, at the very least he'll get to $330k like you said and it gives me $340k in the kitty as well
Jed Anderson listed as test and Paul Ahern killed it in the VFL
Not saying LDU will get dropped, but his CBA number will reduce I would think
He will make cash, but he could revert to 70ish scores, and if that happens then it's not worth a trade for me. Can't chase points - I can see the appeal, he has looked fantastic, but Anderson/Ahern concern me, and at his price he needs to keep scoring well to justify the use of 1 our precious trades
I've got Libba at M6 with Walsh and Constable on field, so that's probably enough of a reason for me not to need him and pass
Back to back 65's has LDU at 310k based off SC Gold projections. Checked with TooSerious Calc's and it is well off.
LDU's JS is as good as ever. Anderson will play outside so Thomas/Scott are under the firing line, does not affect him at all. Ahern may affect him but he has the ability to play in other possies imo. LDU is an in and under guy, that's why they got him.
I'd take two 70's in the next two weeks, would see him at 320k and a breakeven of <30 going into Round 5. Basically if he doesn't shower the bed he is guaranteed to make a quick fire 150k. Could hold on a bit longer and see him get closer to 400k or take his cash and dump, will be around 350k if you decide to dump quickly so could easily make 200k+ in a trade fairly easy.
Quote from: _wato on April 01, 2019, 01:08:20 PM
Back to back 65's has LDU at 310k based off SC Gold projections. Checked with TooSerious Calc's and it is well off.
LDU's JS is as good as ever. Anderson will play outside so Thomas/Scott are under the firing line, does not affect him at all. Ahern may affect him but he has the ability to play in other possies imo. LDU is an in and under guy, that's why they got him.
I'd take two 70's in the next two weeks, would see him at 320k and a breakeven of <30 going into Round 5. Basically if he doesn't shower the bed he is guaranteed to make a quick fire 150k. Could hold on a bit longer and see him get closer to 400k or take his cash and dump, will be around 350k if you decide to dump quickly so could easily make 200k+ in a trade fairly easy.
If you have someone to ditch for him like Dusty that’s not a bad move. If you’re going sideways it’s not so good though. Who goes out for him? Maybe Cousins if you have him, but he was the 4th best ranked on ground from mid Q3 yesterday...
I've got Cousins in my mid, how bad were the injuries for Hawks and does it look like his role will continue to improve? Don't think it's worth trading him regadless as he is scoring well for a 219K price guy.
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 01, 2019, 02:15:45 PM
I've got Cousins in my mid, how bad were the injuries for Hawks and does it look like his role will continue to improve? Don't think it's worth trading him regadless as he is scoring well for a 219K price guy.
Shiels and Burgoyne were both soft tissue injuries, so you would expect 2-3 weeks at least. Shiels out in particular should mean Cousins continues getting plenty of minutes in the guts.
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 01, 2019, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 01, 2019, 02:15:45 PM
I've got Cousins in my mid, how bad were the injuries for Hawks and does it look like his role will continue to improve? Don't think it's worth trading him regadless as he is scoring well for a 219K price guy.
Shiels and Burgoyne were both soft tissue injuries, so you would expect 2-3 weeks at least. Shiels out in particular should mean Cousins continues getting plenty of minutes in the guts.
Cheers, will save the trade and let him make me some cash.
is bailey smith to LDU worthwhile. I get the impression Smith is going to be very slow burn and not make much cash. Having LDU might mean some more consistancy on field in place of Scott as well.
Quote from: _wato on April 01, 2019, 01:08:20 PM
Back to back 65's has LDU at 310k based off SC Gold projections. Checked with TooSerious Calc's and it is well off.
LDU's JS is as good as ever. Anderson will play outside so Thomas/Scott are under the firing line, does not affect him at all. Ahern may affect him but he has the ability to play in other possies imo. LDU is an in and under guy, that's why they got him.
I'd take two 70's in the next two weeks, would see him at 320k and a breakeven of <30 going into Round 5. Basically if he doesn't shower the bed he is guaranteed to make a quick fire 150k. Could hold on a bit longer and see him get closer to 400k or take his cash and dump, will be around 350k if you decide to dump quickly so could easily make 200k+ in a trade fairly easy.
Tree him to who in 2 weeks? If you're getting him I'd be expecting to have to hold him longer than 2 weeks when the right downgrade option pops up
Is Gibbons worth trading in (for those that don't have him)?
Wouldn’t waste the trade
Quote from: Gambino on April 01, 2019, 06:53:29 PM
Is Gibbons worth trading in (for those that don't have him)?
Quote from: whynot102 on April 01, 2019, 07:03:26 PM
Wouldn’t waste the tradeQuote from: Gambino on April 01, 2019, 06:53:29 PM
Is Gibbons worth trading in (for those that don't have him)?
I'm pondering whether to trade him out!
I think I want to make sure I have Constable and Parker for their expected price rises. Balta to Parker seems straight forward, but choosing between Gibbons and Atkins to bring in Constable is proving difficult, are these trades worth it?
Quote from: Goosey on April 01, 2019, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: whynot102 on April 01, 2019, 07:03:26 PM
Wouldn’t waste the tradeQuote from: Gambino on April 01, 2019, 06:53:29 PM
Is Gibbons worth trading in (for those that don't have him)?
I'm pondering whether to trade him out!
I think I want to make sure I have Constable and Parker for their expected price rises. Balta to Parker seems straight forward, but choosing between Gibbons and Atkins to bring in Constable is proving difficult, are these trades worth it?
If you get Constable, you should have him on field. Losing Gibbons or Atkins doesn't necessarily get him there without taking another (potentially good) rookie off-field.
Balta to Parker seems straightforward on its face. I could do the same. Remain to be convinced that Parker can keep plugging out around 80. 70 may be more realistic longer term.
Selections come Wednesday/Thurs/Fri may help us.
Quote from: _wato on March 31, 2019, 08:44:21 PM
Got all the rookies I want now.
Defence - Clark, Duursma, Wilkie, Burgess (only missing Scrimshaw but not too fussed)
Midfield - Walsh, LDU, Constable, Butters, Scott, Atkins (only missing Cousins?)
Forward - Drew, Setterfield, Petruccelle, Parker (don't think I'm missing anyone?
Only issue for me now is 4 trades used to make corrections which is 2 more than I wanted so gotta be careful with trades moving forward. Have to hope 1/2 of Smith/BRouch/Greene become keepers for me. Cash flow should be awesome though and have all the big prems I want bar Lloyd and a few midfield guys but they'll be upgrade targets anyway.
bloody well done wato. what are your thoughts on my corrective trades in corrective thread. ? on js for clark and atkins
Quote from: GoldDigger on April 01, 2019, 07:52:02 PM
Quote from: Goosey on April 01, 2019, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: whynot102 on April 01, 2019, 07:03:26 PM
Wouldn’t waste the tradeQuote from: Gambino on April 01, 2019, 06:53:29 PM
Is Gibbons worth trading in (for those that don't have him)?
I'm pondering whether to trade him out!
I think I want to make sure I have Constable and Parker for their expected price rises. Balta to Parker seems straight forward, but choosing between Gibbons and Atkins to bring in Constable is proving difficult, are these trades worth it?
If you get Constable, you should have him on field. Losing Gibbons or Atkins doesn't necessarily get him there without taking another (potentially good) rookie off-field.
Balta to Parker seems straightforward on its face. I could do the same. Remain to be convinced that Parker can keep plugging out around 80. 70 may be more realistic longer term.
Selections come Wednesday/Thurs/Fri may help us.
I have Cousins, Walsh and Butters on field, Scott, Atkins and Gibbons on bench. Still think I want to get Constable in.
Quote from: Goosey on April 01, 2019, 09:11:08 PM... I have Cousins, Walsh and Butters on field, Scott, Atkins and Gibbons on bench. Still think I want to get Constable in.
So do you really want to get one of those three that are onfield off? If so, for mine, there's your trade. I wouldn't bench an expensive rookie. Admit there's something wrong on field, and correct that. Or hold. Or downgrade a mid-price or premium.
Cripps a chance to return this week, alongside Gaff
I'd think two of Smith, Venables and Petrucelle make way for them
Finger crossed Petruccelle holds his spot
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 01, 2019, 11:05:02 PM
Cripps a chance to return this week, alongside Gaff
I'd think two of Smith, Venables and Petrucelle make way for them
Finger crossed Petruccelle holds his spot
No way Petrol Jelly gets dropped. Have a look at this, hugeeee X factor
https://twitter.com/WestCoastEagles/status/1112186923458543616
Quote from: _wato on April 01, 2019, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 01, 2019, 11:05:02 PM
Cripps a chance to return this week, alongside Gaff
I'd think two of Smith, Venables and Petrucelle make way for them
Finger crossed Petruccelle holds his spot
No way Petrol Jelly gets dropped. Have a look at this, hugeeee X factor
https://twitter.com/WestCoastEagles/status/1112186923458543616
I'm a WCE fan, saw it live obviously ;)
I don't think he gets dropped for what it's worth. Venables out for Gaff and Smith out for Cripps should be the moves, but after those 2 Petro is probably next in line, and Rioli walks back in once fit too, so hopefully Petro keeps doing enough
Who to turn into Durrsma? Hore (any point if he's back this week), Gibbons, Scott (possible out). All -ve BE's but Duursma's is easily the best don't feel like the rest of my rookies warrant trading out.
DEF: Collins, Burgess, Clark, Hore
MID: Cousins, Walsh, Constable, Setterfield, Scott, Gibbons
FOR: Drew, Powell, Parker, Balta, Petrucelle
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 02, 2019, 11:01:49 AM
Who to turn into Durrsma? Hore (any point if he's back this week), Gibbons, Scott (possible out). All -ve BE's but Duursma's is easily the best don't feel like the rest of my rookies warrant trading out.
DEF: Collins, Burgess, Clark, Hore
MID: Cousins, Walsh, Constable, Setterfield, Scott, Gibbons
FOR: Drew, Powell, Parker, Balta, Petrucelle
Scott would be stiff to be dropped. Didnt play well but think he was outta his confort zone playing half forward
Quote from: sammy123 on April 02, 2019, 11:03:33 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 02, 2019, 11:01:49 AM
Who to turn into Durrsma? Hore (any point if he's back this week), Gibbons, Scott (possible out). All -ve BE's but Duursma's is easily the best don't feel like the rest of my rookies warrant trading out.
DEF: Collins, Burgess, Clark, Hore
MID: Cousins, Walsh, Constable, Setterfield, Scott, Gibbons
FOR: Drew, Powell, Parker, Balta, Petrucelle
Scott would be stiff to be dropped. Didnt play well but think he was outta his confort zone playing half forward
So maybe Hore if not named or Gibbons. Or just miss out on him completely and save the trade...
LDU, Rozee, Walsh, Scrimshaw, Miers, Collins, Atkins, Wilkie, Petrucelle, Sparrow, Gibbons, Schultz, McKay
I am reluctant to use the term "must-have", but does anyone think any of the above rookies are crucial selections for cash generation?
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 02, 2019, 02:06:11 PM
LDU, Rozee, Walsh, Scrimshaw, Miers, Collins, Atkins, Wilkie, Petrucelle, Sparrow, Gibbons, Schultz, McKay
I am reluctant to use the term "must-have", but does anyone think any of the above rookies are crucial selections for cash generation?
Walsh and LDU have good JS, but are not crucial to making money. They'll make money, but you need to invest more upfront obviously
Scrimshaw and Atkins represent good value for money imo
Rozee is too expensive for me and not required
Sparrow, Schultz, McKay I wouldn't touch
Most sides need 1 of Miers/Petrucelle as F8, and Wilkie should be alright too. None of them are musts, but there decent bench options
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Wilkie, Burgess)
Walsh, Constable (Scott, Atkins, Gibbons)
Setterfield, Drew (Parker, Petrucelle)
Feel like I nailed the rookies
Libba at M6, so pass on LDU/Butters
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 02, 2019, 02:21:11 PM
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Wilkie, Burgess)
Walsh, Constable (Scott, Atkins, Gibbons)
Setterfield, Drew (Parker, Petrucelle)
Feel like I nailed the rookies
Libba at M6, so pass on LDU/Butters
Have the exact same rookies after two trades.
M Crouch at M6 ;)
Collins, Duursma (Clark, Hore)
Walsh, Constable (Butters, Scott, Atkins)
Setterfield, Drew (Burgess, Petruccelle)
I'd like to get Parker but unless Hore isn't named again I don't know if I will.
From the HS must have rookies
MUST-HAVE ROOKIES
DEF
Jordan Clark BE: -51
Xavier Duursma BE: -69
Jack Scrimshaw BE: -48
MID
Zak Butters BE: -63
Charlie Constable BE: -97
FWD
Matt Parker BE: -108
Willem Drew BE: -121
Will Setterfield BE: -35
Only missing Scrimshaw
Def: Clark, Dursma, Wilkie (Collins, Burgess)
Mid: Walsh, Constable, Scott (Butters, Aitkens, Gibbons)
Fwds: Settlerfield, Drew, (Parker, Petrucelle) Moore as well.
So a lot of us have the similar rookies so the trick will be when tocull.
Would hardly call Clark, Scrimshaw, Setterfield and Butters must haves.
Quote from: SilverLion on April 02, 2019, 03:28:38 PM
Would hardly call Clark, Scrimshaw, Setterfield and Butters must haves.
Other than Butters, the other 3 are
close to must haves
If you didn't have Clark/Scrim, your backline of Collins/Duursma/Wilkie/Burgess/Hore etc isn't exactly going to be generating a heap of cash
Same goes for Setters up front - only Drew and Parker will make more for now
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 02, 2019, 02:14:38 PM
Walsh and LDU have good JS, but are not crucial to making money. They'll make money, but you need to invest more upfront obviously
Scrimshaw and Atkins represent good value for money imo
Rozee is too expensive for me and not required
Sparrow, Schultz, McKay I wouldn't touch
Most sides need 1 of Miers/Petrucelle as F8, and Wilkie should be alright too. None of them are musts, but there decent bench options
Thanks for the response, I tend to agree with you on all that.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 02, 2019, 02:21:11 PM
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Wilkie, Burgess)
Walsh, Constable (Scott, Atkins, Gibbons)
Setterfield, Drew (Parker, Petrucelle)
Feel like I nailed the rookies
Libba at M6, so pass on LDU/Butters
Grain of salt I know, but SC Gold predicts Butters will go up 244K in price this season while Gibbons will only increase by 131K. Considering Butters is also a solid on-field backup option, could you argue he is genuinely worth the 55K upgrade from Gibbons?
Should I use my 2 trades then to turn Burgess/Hore/Gibbons into Duursma and Scrimshaw?
Scrimshaw is really the only one I’ve missed. If Hore is not named will be getting him in
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 02, 2019, 04:11:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 02, 2019, 02:14:38 PM
Walsh and LDU have good JS, but are not crucial to making money. They'll make money, but you need to invest more upfront obviously
Scrimshaw and Atkins represent good value for money imo
Rozee is too expensive for me and not required
Sparrow, Schultz, McKay I wouldn't touch
Most sides need 1 of Miers/Petrucelle as F8, and Wilkie should be alright too. None of them are musts, but there decent bench options
Thanks for the response, I tend to agree with you on all that.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 02, 2019, 02:21:11 PM
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Wilkie, Burgess)
Walsh, Constable (Scott, Atkins, Gibbons)
Setterfield, Drew (Parker, Petrucelle)
Feel like I nailed the rookies
Libba at M6, so pass on LDU/Butters
Grain of salt I know, but SC Gold predicts Butters will go up 244K in price this season while Gibbons will only increase by 131K. Considering Butters is also a solid on-field backup option, could you argue he is genuinely worth the 55K upgrade from Gibbons?
Certainly prior to Round 1, with hindsight, but now that it would cost an actual trade on top of the 55k? I'll keep that trade and be happy with the 130k Gibbons profits
The ultimate combination at this stage (all rookies on field averaging 70+) appears to be:
Rozee, Duursma (Scrimshaw, Clark)
LDU, Constable, Walsh (Butters, Scott, Atkins)
Drew, Parker (Miers, Setterfield)
Port & Geelong are heavily represented after some good wins, so interesting to see whether they can keep it up!
Using trades to get in LDU in then out for a starting price of 200k seems frought with danger. 1 bad score and the likes of ahern jacobs back could halt the train.
Quote from: YoungGun on April 02, 2019, 05:29:12 PM
Using trades to get in LDU in then out for a starting price of 200k seems frought with danger. 1 bad score and the likes of ahern jacobs back could halt the train.
Could name a heap of others that should get the chop before LDU.
I've got most rookies right. Only 1 I'm missing i really want is Parker.
Is he a must??
Quote from: Keeper27 on April 02, 2019, 06:52:47 PM
I've got most rookies right. Only 1 I'm missing i really want is Parker.
Is he a must??
With a BE below -100, I'd say so.
Quote from: Keeper27 on April 02, 2019, 06:52:47 PM
I've got most rookies right. Only 1 I'm missing i really want is Parker.
Is he a must??
Same here. Even if Balta is back, I think I'm pulling the trigger on this move.
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 02, 2019, 02:06:11 PM
LDU, Rozee, Walsh, Scrimshaw, Miers, Collins, Atkins, Wilkie, Petrucelle, Sparrow, Gibbons, Schultz, McKay
I am reluctant to use the term "must-have", but does anyone think any of the above rookies are crucial selections for cash generation?
LDU, Walsh, Atkins and possibly Scrimshaw are the pick of that bunch imo. Depends on who you are trading for them?
I've got Wagner and trying to work out if it's worth spending 75k to get LDU in...
Quote from: SilverLion on April 02, 2019, 06:54:37 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on April 02, 2019, 06:52:47 PM
I've got most rookies right. Only 1 I'm missing i really want is Parker.
Is he a must??
With a BE below -100, I'd say so.
Would you trade Petruccelle, Burgess or Hore to get in Parker though......?
Also have the issue of Mills and Greene
What are everyone's thoughts on Rozee? Is Greene -> Rozee worth the trade?
Alternatively, other rookie forwards I don't have are Miers, Petrucelle and Schultz.
Quote from: Mongoose528 on April 03, 2019, 08:38:18 AM
What are everyone's thoughts on Rozee? Is Greene -> Rozee worth the trade?
Alternatively, other rookie forwards I don't have are Miers, Petrucelle and Schultz.
I'm thinking it's worth it and I'm liking the idea of having Moore, Rozee, Burgess going forward. A lot of flexibility created there.
Quote from: LaHug on April 03, 2019, 08:58:37 AM
Quote from: Mongoose528 on April 03, 2019, 08:38:18 AM
What are everyone's thoughts on Rozee? Is Greene -> Rozee worth the trade?
Alternatively, other rookie forwards I don't have are Miers, Petrucelle and Schultz.
I'm thinking it's worth it and I'm liking the idea of having Moore, Rozee, Burgess going forward. A lot of flexibility created there.
The flexibility is only short term though because you'll be upgrading those rookies soon enough
Rozee is a firm pass for me. Had a great outing vs a lowly ranked side last week and I'd expect plenty of scores similar to Round 1 moving forward - at his price that's a very slow burn
Spend the 8k more and get LDU
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 03, 2019, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 03, 2019, 08:58:37 AM
Quote from: Mongoose528 on April 03, 2019, 08:38:18 AM
What are everyone's thoughts on Rozee? Is Greene -> Rozee worth the trade?
Alternatively, other rookie forwards I don't have are Miers, Petrucelle and Schultz.
I'm thinking it's worth it and I'm liking the idea of having Moore, Rozee, Burgess going forward. A lot of flexibility created there.
The flexibility is only short term though because you'll be upgrading those rookies soon enough
Rozee is a firm pass for me. Had a great outing vs a lowly ranked side last week and I'd expect plenty of scores similar to Round 1 moving forward - at his price that's a very slow burn
Spend the 8k more and get LDU
LDU isn't eligible as a forward or a defender though...
Edit: Also, if Rozee only scores 67 like he did in the first two weeks, he'll have made $100k in three weeks. That's hardly bad.
Quote from: LaHug on April 03, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 03, 2019, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 03, 2019, 08:58:37 AM
Quote from: Mongoose528 on April 03, 2019, 08:38:18 AM
What are everyone's thoughts on Rozee? Is Greene -> Rozee worth the trade?
Alternatively, other rookie forwards I don't have are Miers, Petrucelle and Schultz.
I'm thinking it's worth it and I'm liking the idea of having Moore, Rozee, Burgess going forward. A lot of flexibility created there.
The flexibility is only short term though because you'll be upgrading those rookies soon enough
Rozee is a firm pass for me. Had a great outing vs a lowly ranked side last week and I'd expect plenty of scores similar to Round 1 moving forward - at his price that's a very slow burn
Spend the 8k more and get LDU
LDU isn't eligible as a forward or a defender though...
Edit: Also, if Rozee only scores 67 like he did in the first two weeks, he'll have made $100k in three weeks. That's hardly bad.
LOL, I know LDU isn't a forward/def - that's not the point
Regardless of position, you're spending 189k a player who probably averages 60ish when for 8k more you can get another player who will average much more
As for the 100k over 3 weeks, that's not worth 2 trades (1 trade bring Rozee in, 1 trade moving him out)
Whispers around that Jack Ross will make his debut for Richmond this weekend after 2 30+ disposal games in the VFL.
$117k mid but it's a frustrating time to for debuts as the there won't be any fattened cows ready
Quote from: quinny88 on April 03, 2019, 12:52:37 PM
Whispers around that Jack Ross will make his debut for Richmond this weekend after 2 30+ disposal games in the VFL.
$117k mid but it's a frustrating time to for debuts as the there won't be any fattened cows ready
Maybe in 2 weeks time if Ross keeps in the team.
Would you say Scrimshaw is close to a must have? (Considering I have Hore and Balta stinking it up)
Quote from: JonnyJJJJ on April 03, 2019, 10:24:25 PM
Would you say Scrimshaw is close to a must have? (Considering I have Hore and Balta stinking it up)
I wouldn't no. Interrupted PS and lack of conditioning means I see him being rested soon enough.
Played well for sure, looked very composed v Dogs.
Quote from: quinny88 on April 03, 2019, 12:52:37 PM
Whispers around that Jack Ross will make his debut for Richmond this weekend after 2 30+ disposal games in the VFL.
$117k mid but it's a frustrating time to for debuts as the there won't be any fattened cows ready
Balta looking like getting a gig this weekend?
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 04, 2019, 07:10:02 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 03, 2019, 12:52:37 PM
Whispers around that Jack Ross will make his debut for Richmond this weekend after 2 30+ disposal games in the VFL.
$117k mid but it's a frustrating time to for debuts as the there won't be any fattened cows ready
Balta looking like getting a gig this weekend?
From a Richmond member point of view (they send us lots of fun email updates), I haven't heard anything about Balta all week. Usually there's something when a young player is about to get a game - could be as simple as they used all their material prior to his debut in Round 1. This week's feature was on Jack Ross. There's every chance Garthwaite is fit enough to come in for Grimes, Caddy for Riewoldt. Assuming that Ross is getting a debut (we'll drop Castagna imo), that means one of Ellis or Markov has to be dropped and we have to go tall like Round 1. It's possible but I'm far less certain than I was a few days ago...
Any interest in Jay Lockhart?
Assuming he keeps his spot this week and next, his DPP would be super handy to link with Duursma.
If Hore doesn't get named, which it's looking like he won't, I'm a little tempted..
Quote from: jfitty on April 04, 2019, 12:01:48 PM
Any interest in Jay Lockhart?
Assuming he keeps his spot this week and next, his DPP would be super handy to link with Duursma.
If Hore doesn't get named, which it's looking like he won't, I'm a little tempted..
definitely interested but have to wait until he is named on the bubble I reckon.
Would you say bringing in LDU for Balta is worth a trade?
Quote from: JonnyJJJJ on April 04, 2019, 02:16:05 PM
Would you say bringing in LDU for Balta is worth a trade?
If you have enough cash in the bank to do that in one trade it looks a pretty decent trade. LDU has a 118 in his rolling average. Thats a huge score for a rookie priced player.
Atkins might be at risk of omission next week, after his goal in the 3rd minute of the game I barely saw him.
6 disposals, 1 goal, 0 tackles. His role in the team is basically built on his tackling.
Constable however... what a gun.
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on April 04, 2019, 10:38:24 PM
Atkins might be at risk of omission next week, after his goal in the 3rd minute of the game I barely saw him.
6 disposals, 1 goal, 0 tackles. His role in the team is basically built on his tackling.
Constable however... what a gun.
Who have they got waiting for the chance in that position? I can't see them changing up a side that's 3-0 and on fire
Quote from: quinny88 on April 04, 2019, 11:12:08 PM
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on April 04, 2019, 10:38:24 PM
Atkins might be at risk of omission next week, after his goal in the 3rd minute of the game I barely saw him.
6 disposals, 1 goal, 0 tackles. His role in the team is basically built on his tackling.
Constable however... what a gun.
Who have they got waiting for the chance in that position? I can't see them changing up a side that's 3-0 and on fire
Yeah you wouldn’t throw your season away by bringing that dud Parsons in
Quote from: quinny88 on April 04, 2019, 11:12:08 PM
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on April 04, 2019, 10:38:24 PM
Atkins might be at risk of omission next week, after his goal in the 3rd minute of the game I barely saw him.
6 disposals, 1 goal, 0 tackles. His role in the team is basically built on his tackling.
Constable however... what a gun.
Who have they got waiting for the chance in that position? I can't see them changing up a side that's 3-0 and on fire
Cam Guthrie and Zac Tuohy are probably the two best to come back in in the near future. Bews, Henry, Parsons, Narkle, Cunico and Cockatoo could also get a look in but I think Parsons is the only one that is in competition for the same role that Atkins plays. Hard to predict what Chris Scott will do though.
So is everyone getting rid of Hore?
Quote from: quinny88 on April 04, 2019, 11:39:28 PM
So is everyone getting rid of Hore?
The "who's keeping Hore?" will be a shorter list, imho
Quote from: quinny88 on April 04, 2019, 11:39:28 PM
So is everyone getting rid of Hore?
Depends. Don't want Burgess and don't have the cash to make him Moore unless I trade Shaw to a midprice option
Quote from: quinny88 on April 04, 2019, 11:39:28 PM
So is everyone getting rid of Hore?
Thinking I might. Missing Scrimshaw and Rozee, and the cash gen off the bat is pretty important. Looped Clark, so if he'd gone big I would have kept, but no real incentive now
I thought he was a sure thing to come back in to replace May but he's not even named as an emergency so may have to pull the trigger on Hore > Scrim
Quote from: quinny88 on April 04, 2019, 11:54:50 PM
I thought he was a sure thing to come back in to replace May but he's not even named as an emergency so may have to pull the trigger on Hore > Scrim
Hold tight until Scrim is in for sure though!
Really surprised Miers is only in 4.1% of teams tbh.
Rock solid JS at the moment, second most ground covered by any Cat last night, and once the 35 from rd1 is out of his cycle he'll make some quickfire cash.
Won't be a huge scorer, but 83 and 69 last two is pretty good for 123K
Quote from: duffercoat on April 04, 2019, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 04, 2019, 11:12:08 PM
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on April 04, 2019, 10:38:24 PM
Atkins might be at risk of omission next week, after his goal in the 3rd minute of the game I barely saw him.
6 disposals, 1 goal, 0 tackles. His role in the team is basically built on his tackling.
Constable however... what a gun.
Who have they got waiting for the chance in that position? I can't see them changing up a side that's 3-0 and on fire
Cam Guthrie and Zac Tuohy are probably the two best to come back in in the near future. Bews, Henry, Parsons, Narkle, Cunico and Cockatoo could also get a look in but I think Parsons is the only one that is in competition for the same role that Atkins plays. Hard to predict what Chris Scott will do though.
LFog due back in 2, probably the main threat for that particular spot, unless they reshuffle.
Quote from: js19 on April 05, 2019, 12:03:41 AM
Really surprised Miers is only in 4.1% of teams tbh.
Rock solid JS at the moment, second most ground covered by any Cat last night, and once the 35 from rd1 is out of his cycle he'll make some quickfire cash.
Won't be a huge scorer, but 83 and 69 last two is pretty good for 123K
If Balta flops this week he might be a sideways option. How much is he expected to make?
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:11:07 AM
Quote from: js19 on April 05, 2019, 12:03:41 AM
Really surprised Miers is only in 4.1% of teams tbh.
Rock solid JS at the moment, second most ground covered by any Cat last night, and once the 35 from rd1 is out of his cycle he'll make some quickfire cash.
Won't be a huge scorer, but 83 and 69 last two is pretty good for 123K
If Balta flops this week he might be a sideways option. How much is he expected to make?
Look it up ...http://tooserious.net/forum/stats.php#E9PqfxG4J7Sezvjq.97
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:11:07 AM
Quote from: js19 on April 05, 2019, 12:03:41 AM
Really surprised Miers is only in 4.1% of teams tbh.
Rock solid JS at the moment, second most ground covered by any Cat last night, and once the 35 from rd1 is out of his cycle he'll make some quickfire cash.
Won't be a huge scorer, but 83 and 69 last two is pretty good for 123K
If Balta flops this week he might be a sideways option. How much is he expected to make?
He'll make around 52k this week and expected another 50k-ish with a score of 60 next round
Quote from: js19 on April 04, 2019, 11:58:56 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 04, 2019, 11:54:50 PM
I thought he was a sure thing to come back in to replace May but he's not even named as an emergency so may have to pull the trigger on Hore > Scrim
Hold tight until Scrim is in for sure though!
Definitel! have made that mistake before haha
Quote from: GoldDigger on April 05, 2019, 12:18:56 AM
Look it up ...http://tooserious.net/forum/stats.php#E9PqfxG4J7Sezvjq.97
Those calcs are a piece of crap. SC Gold has the projected prices which I don't have and I assume most use.
Quote from: js19 on April 05, 2019, 12:19:39 AM
He'll make around 52k this week and expected another 50k-ish with a score of 60 next round
Hmm, not really worth it since you need to probably find the 50k to turn Balta into Miers anyway. In a small forward role I'd expect a couple 30's in that rotation quick enough. Good pick by those that started him or grabbed him this week.
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:22:33 AMThose calcs are a piece of crap. SC Gold has the projected prices which I don't have and I assume most use.
Evidence?
Quote from: GoldDigger on April 05, 2019, 12:26:19 AM
Evidence?
Use it now and then check how much Miers actually goes up in price. It will be wrong. That's your evidence.
Quote from: GoldDigger on April 05, 2019, 12:26:19 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:22:33 AMThose calcs are a piece of crap. SC Gold has the projected prices which I don't have and I assume most use.
Evidence?
Miers:
SC Gold BE -48
TooSerious BE -46
SC Gold predicted price rise (score 60) $48.8K
TooSerious predicted price rise (score 60) $35.5
TooSerious is $13.3K off in this one calc, or over 27%
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:28:58 AM
Quote from: GoldDigger on April 05, 2019, 12:26:19 AM
Evidence?
Use it now and then check how much Miers actually goes up in price. It will be wrong. That's your evidence.
Sounds a bit like the proof of our coalition policies is in the promise that "we will present a budget surplus NEXT year IF we are elected!
Total BS! Evidence is the BASIS for prediction, NOT the prediction.
Quote from: js19 on April 05, 2019, 12:30:53 AM
Quote from: GoldDigger on April 05, 2019, 12:26:19 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:22:33 AMThose calcs are a piece of crap. SC Gold has the projected prices which I don't have and I assume most use.
Evidence?
Miers:
SC Gold BE -48
TooSerious BE -46
SC Gold predicted price rise (score 60) $48.8K
TooSerious predicted price rise (score 60) $35.5
TooSerious is $13.3K off in this one calc, or over 27%
So I guess we take it that Gold is correct?
Quote from: GoldDigger on April 05, 2019, 12:34:37 AM
Quote from: js19 on April 05, 2019, 12:30:53 AM
Quote from: GoldDigger on April 05, 2019, 12:26:19 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 12:22:33 AMThose calcs are a piece of crap. SC Gold has the projected prices which I don't have and I assume most use.
Evidence?
Miers:
SC Gold BE -48
TooSerious BE -46
SC Gold predicted price rise (score 60) $48.8K
TooSerious predicted price rise (score 60) $35.5
TooSerious is $13.3K off in this one calc, or over 27%
So I guess we take it that Gold is correct?
Gold is the basis and background of the actual system and uses the algorithms included therein, so pending major changes to the magic number, yes, Gold is correct
Glad i got in constable
Quote from: GoldDigger on April 05, 2019, 12:33:32 AM
Total BS! Evidence is the BASIS for prediction, NOT the prediction.
Quote from: js19 on April 05, 2019, 12:37:16 AM
Miers:
SC Gold BE -48
TooSerious BE -46
SC Gold predicted price rise (score 60) $48.8K
TooSerious predicted price rise (score 60) $35.5
TooSerious is $13.3K off in this one calc, or over 27%
So I guess we take it that Gold is correct?
You were saying?
Quote from: js19 on April 05, 2019, 12:37:16 AM
Gold is the basis and background of the actual system and uses the algorithms included therein, so pending major changes to the magic number, yes, Gold is correct
Correct. I had Gold for a couple of years with my Foxtel subscription. Tooserious was always wrong when comparing. You get a basic idea but 35k is a huge difference to 50k. Thanks for that mate.
I don't have Hore in SC so I'm fine there but I have him in DT... Here's my problem. I have Hore and Greene in DT, I gave Danger the VC but Fort is my usual 0 and I can't use him for loophole this week. If I hold Hore or Greene, I can get Danger's score. If I use Hore, I have to take Clark's score over Scrimshaw to loop Danger. If I use Greene, I can't loop Setters against Petrucelle (was probably going to trade Greene to Rozee anyway). There's no rookie in Fwd or Def that I'm missing other than Rozee unless we think Powell is worthwhile, so there's no double trade worth making (I have no spare cash to upgrade). Do I keep Hore even though he's not likely to play anytime soon? I can't afford Hore to Rozee straight up either...
I'd want to take the Danger captain score so I'd keep Hore. Scrimshaw probably scores 10 more max but you could make that up in the captains score easy.
Greene to Rozee, move Rozee back next week and grab a rookie up forward next week
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 10:11:40 AM
I'd want to take the Danger captain score so I'd keep Hore. Scrimshaw probably scores 10 more max but you could make that up in the captains score easy.
Greene to Rozee, move Rozee back next week and grab a rookie up forward next week
But there are no rookies coming through next week... I might just hold Hore to loophole back rookies and/or captains going forward until a good rookie option appears.
I'm really struggling with what to do with Hore. I don't have Scrimshaw or Collins, but are they worth the correctional trade?
Scrimshaw on extended bench and Collins would drain my bank account limiting my trade flexibility.
Are there any other options coming up in the foreseeable future because i don't want to be stuck with Hore on the team for too long not making money. I already have Bines for captain loophole. All my other rookies are good.
Quote from: Wanderer on April 05, 2019, 11:04:56 AM
I'm really struggling with what to do with Hore. I don't have Scrimshaw or Collins, but are they worth the correctional trade?
Scrimshaw on extended bench and Collins would drain my bank account limiting my trade flexibility.
Are there any other options coming up in the foreseeable future because i don't want to be stuck with Hore on the team for too long not making money. I already have Bines for captain loophole. All my other rookies are good.
At this stage of the season the most important thing is making sure all your rookies are playing and making $
If Scrim makes the cut at 5pm tonight (which I expect he will) then grab him. If he doesn't, do you have Wilkie or any other rookie you can get?
Either way, I'd be dumping Hore in a heartbeat - not even named emergency. If anything, hopefully he returns later so we can use him as a downgrade target to milk a cow
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 10:11:40 AM
I'd want to take the Danger captain score so I'd keep Hore. Scrimshaw probably scores 10 more max but you could make that up in the captains score easy.
Greene to Rozee, move Rozee back next week and grab a rookie up forward next week
But there are no rookies coming through next week... I might just hold Hore to loophole back rookies and/or captains going forward until a good rookie option appears.
Yeah not too much coming through but they usually pop up. Bewley is one maybe. Tyson Stengle another.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 05, 2019, 11:07:09 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on April 05, 2019, 11:04:56 AM
I'm really struggling with what to do with Hore. I don't have Scrimshaw or Collins, but are they worth the correctional trade?
Scrimshaw on extended bench and Collins would drain my bank account limiting my trade flexibility.
Are there any other options coming up in the foreseeable future because i don't want to be stuck with Hore on the team for too long not making money. I already have Bines for captain loophole. All my other rookies are good.
At this stage of the season the most important thing is making sure all your rookies are playing and making $
If Scrim makes the cut at 5pm tonight (which I expect he will) then grab him. If he doesn't, do you have Wilkie or any other rookie you can get?
Either way, I'd be dumping Hore in a heartbeat - not even named emergency. If anything, hopefully he returns later so we can use him as a downgrade target to milk a cow
I'd do it for Scrim 10 times out of 10. But would you really trade for Wilkie? How much cash is he going to make you? Not trading out a slow burning rookie is one thing but trading one in? That's two trades for $100k. That seems pretty shower to me...
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 10:17:29 AM
But there are no rookies coming through next week... I might just hold Hore to loophole back rookies and/or captains going forward until a good rookie option appears.
If you're looking to move Rozee back you could sideways to Miers or grab Balta on the bubble if he actually scores well and is on the bubble.
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 01:03:16 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 10:17:29 AM
But there are no rookies coming through next week... I might just hold Hore to loophole back rookies and/or captains going forward until a good rookie option appears.
If you're looking to move Rozee back you could sideways to Miers or grab Balta on the bubble if he actually scores well and is on the bubble.
Wouldn't trade in Balta for the same reason I won't trade in Wilkie. Plus, I traded him out. Would hurt to grab Miers after he's already gone up in price but definitely an option!
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 01:20:32 PM
Wouldn't trade in Balta for the same reason I won't trade in Wilkie. Plus, I traded him out. Would hurt to grab Miers after he's already gone up in price but definitely an option!
Wasn't sure if you had grabbed Balta or not.
O'Brien from the Crows is the one I am keeping an eye on if Sauce is out long term. Hoff forward and one of my crappy rookies from either my midfield or forward line out.
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 05, 2019, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 05, 2019, 01:20:32 PM
Wouldn't trade in Balta for the same reason I won't trade in Wilkie. Plus, I traded him out. Would hurt to grab Miers after he's already gone up in price but definitely an option!
Wasn't sure if you had grabbed Balta or not.
O'Brien from the Crows is the one I am keeping an eye on if Sauce is out long term. Hoff forward and one of my crappy rookies from either my midfield or forward line out.
If I'd known RDT was Rolling Lockouts this year, I'd have started Bines instead of Fort and I could get O'Brien or Clarke in a few weeks. Pretty annoyed I didn't do it anyway.
Is Hore to Burgess worth a trade
Quote from: whynot102 on April 05, 2019, 06:08:34 PM
Is Hore to Burgess worth a trade
No. Burgess isn't even certain to make $100k, let alone the $150k+ I'd want to burn the trade for.
If Hore doesn't come back in next weekend you can forget about him. Every Melbourne defender was nothing short of awful tonight; they all either got a bag kicked on them, or were a liability with ball in hand. I'll be very surprised if Goodwin doesn't change at least 3 of that back 6 ahead of next week.
Quote from: IntegralX on April 06, 2019, 12:42:01 AM
If Hore doesn't come back in next weekend you can forget about him. Every Melbourne defender was nothing short of awful tonight; they all either got a bag kicked on them, or were a liability with ball in hand. I'll be very surprised if Goodwin doesn't change at least 3 of that back 6 ahead of next week.
Yep & if Hore doesn't get a go Lockhart if named will be an option on the bubble. You even make a couple $s lol.
What's Balta's JS like? Would you trade him to LDU/Cousins If you had the funds?
Quote from: Gambino on April 06, 2019, 09:00:24 AM
What's Balta's JS like? Would you trade him to LDU/Cousins If you had the funds?
Well if Reiwoldt wasn't injured I don't think Balta would be playing so I would guess Baltas JS is somewhere between poor & very poor. I hope I am wrong. Hopefully he takes his chance today. I would love him to get in 5 or 6 games & at least make some $. Secondly, if you had the funds that looks an excellent trade. Tough decision between LDU & Cousins tho.
Liam McBean kicked 9.0 for Glenelg vs. Crows last night in Round 2 of the SANFL (Kicked 1.1 Round 1). Not sure how many/which clubs have a trade left for mid-season but he might get a lifeline if he keeps that up. Stengle was inaccurate 1.3. (4.0 in Round 1) Bays win 18.7 to 9.8.
Is it worth me getting Scrimshaw?
Rookie bench is Burgess/Wilkie def
And Balta/Parker fwd
All are playing, but thinking Balta > Scrimshaw would strengthen my rookie stocks
I've already used 3 trades though so maybe I should sit tight for now?
Quote from: HappyDEZ on April 06, 2019, 09:07:36 AM
Quote from: Gambino on April 06, 2019, 09:00:24 AM
What's Balta's JS like? Would you trade him to LDU/Cousins If you had the funds?
Well if Reiwoldt wasn't injured I don't think Balta would be playing so I would guess Baltas JS is somewhere between poor & very poor. I hope I am wrong. Hopefully he takes his chance today. I would love him to get in 5 or 6 games & at least make some $. Secondly, if you had the funds that looks an excellent trade. Tough decision between LDU & Cousins tho.
Thanks HappyDez. Yeh tough call between LDU and Cousins, leaning LDU
Anyone who watched the game last night, how did Lockhart look?
Seemed to score well from 68% game time, also went at 57% DE, so room for improvement.
Seems a good replacement for Hore if he doesn't come back next week, at least make a little cash from it. Personally I can then link him with Duursma in the midfield..
Quote from: Gambino on April 06, 2019, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on April 06, 2019, 09:07:36 AM
Quote from: Gambino on April 06, 2019, 09:00:24 AM
What's Balta's JS like? Would you trade him to LDU/Cousins If you had the funds?
Well if Reiwoldt wasn't injured I don't think Balta would be playing so I would guess Baltas JS is somewhere between poor & very poor. I hope I am wrong. Hopefully he takes his chance today. I would love him to get in 5 or 6 games & at least make some $. Secondly, if you had the funds that looks an excellent trade. Tough decision between LDU & Cousins tho.
Thanks HappyDez. Yeh tough call between LDU and Cousins, leaning LDU
With shiels and burgoyne injuries, Cousins look like the more attractive option.
Quote from: jfitty on April 06, 2019, 11:16:43 AM
Anyone who watched the game last night, how did Lockhart look?
Seemed to score well from 68% game time, also went at 57% DE, so room for improvement.
Seems a good replacement for Hore if he doesn't come back next week, at least make a little cash from it. Personally I can then link him with Duursma in the midfield..
He looked pretty good actually, but DE and some errors let him down. If Gibbons stinks it up, might trade him to Lockhart and link up well with Duursma.
Quote from: ubeaut on April 06, 2019, 10:44:54 AM
Is it worth me getting Scrimshaw?
Rookie bench is Burgess/Wilkie def
And Balta/Parker fwd
All are playing, but thinking Balta > Scrimshaw would strengthen my rookie stocks
I've already used 3 trades though so maybe I should sit tight for now?
you should sit tight, people were nervous with Scrimshaw this week making the cut. Would'nt call him must have.
Gibbons and Setters are giving me a headache
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Gibbons and Setters are giving me a headache
I was planning on looping Setters with Petrucelle (via Greene) but I've been busy all morning and didn't set it up, so I'm fielding Setters :(
Opponent has him on field too though, so that's alright
I have Setters on field as well. Gibbons is the slow burn M11 but donuts for a half is a mess. Still playing bettet than Lochie O'Brien so that says something.
Setters needs to work harder. All his kicks have been hacks out of the contest. Probably needs to spread or provide an option hitting up. Really low possession numbers from our team though. 133 possessions in a half when teams are averaging mid 300's?
Setterfield ..Hurt his knee apparently
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2019, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Gibbons and Setters are giving me a headache
I was planning on looping Setters with Petrucelle (via Greene) but I've been busy all morning and didn't set it up, so I'm fielding Setters :(
Opponent has him on field too though, so that's alright
I’ve loopholed him. What score to take? Anything above 50 I reckon. Although can’t see him getting there with an injured knee.
Quote from: Football Factory on April 06, 2019, 03:01:13 PM
Setterfield ..Hurt his knee apparently
He was running around in the midfield late so I doubt it's serious
Also I was wrong in the possession numbers. 9 and 10 for possessions per game average 374.5 possessions per game. We're on track for 266....
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 03:04:40 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on April 06, 2019, 03:01:13 PM
Setterfield ..Hurt his knee apparently
He was running around in the midfield late so I doubt it's serious
Also I was wrong in the possession numbers. 9 and 10 for possessions per game average 374.5 possessions per game. We're on track for 266....
Yeah he's on the ground, i saw him in the forward line farting around at one stage. Not really tackling just putting his hands on opponents waist to get them to release the ball.
Is it possible to lose cash as a bottom priced rookie? Gibbons is trying his best to do so
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 03:51:44 PM
Is it possible to lose cash as a bottom priced rookie? Gibbons is trying his best to do so
Nah has a B/e of -32 so in advance of that so will go up some.
Stack has looked quite slick, although he's made a couple of errors
Could be a bail out option for Gibbons in a few weeks
Short looks to be out for an extended period of time so there will be a half back slot available. I'd expect Houli comes in next week if fit and takes the majority of the kickouts.
Lock in Stack after next round if he performs even half as well as this next week.
Agreed. Gibbons would be the obvious choice as you may make some cash with a 'downgrade'
So who still has Balta? :-X
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 07:20:38 PM
So who still has Balta? :-X
Still got him & still have 30 trades, will keep as long as he's playing.
Quote from: Bully on April 06, 2019, 07:23:20 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 07:20:38 PM
So who still has Balta? :-X
Still got him & still have 30 trades, will keep as long as he's playing.
WooHoo ! whats your rank ?
Not a surprise that Drew had his worst game with Wines back in the mix. Saw little time in the middle like he had in the two previous weeks. It will be interesting to see how he scores next week
Drew's scores could dry up. Well done to whoever picled up rozee
Butters a chance to get rubbed out?
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2019, 10:38:00 PM
Butters a chance to get rubbed out?
For? Only thing I can think of was the bit of play where he jumped and bumped. Was in flight for the ball so I'd so no. Something else happen?
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 06, 2019, 07:20:38 PM
So who still has Balta? :-X
unfortunately that's me, I've got bigger problems than a slow burn rookie.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2019, 10:38:00 PM
Butters a chance to get rubbed out?
Probably not only coz McCluggage wasn't concussed. Reports are given based on the injury these days. Not dissimilar from Grimes' suspension last week though.
Had Rozee in all pre season, then JLT made me decide to go down other avenues..
He's probably the 3rd best rookie after Walsh and Constable.
Rozzee the only real rookie I missed on from the must haves, Took Dursma instead and for value picked Burgess as the DPP link. Hindsight wonderful would have been beneficial to use the extra cash and go Rozee instead but these are the breaks in in SC, Rozzee will not kick 5 goals each game either.
Agree with the comments on Drew and he could be the first downgrade when he is ripe. Just did not appear to get near the ball last night,
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 07, 2019, 05:37:21 AM
Had Rozee in all pre season, then JLT made me decide to go down other avenues..
He's probably the 3rd best rookie after Walsh and Constable.
I did the same rozee didnt inpress in jlt at all
Didn't watch Carlton + Sydney, was Setterfield tagging again or just showerhouse. Either way, time to dump and run.
Quote from: frenzy on April 07, 2019, 09:15:46 AM
Didn't watch Carlton + Sydney, was Setterfield tagging again or just showerhouse. Either way, time to dump and run.
To who? No juicy fwd rookies on the bubble this week.
what do people think of hore to lockhart.
So pissed was 3500 short of getting lloyd in for heeney, decided I would sit another week and then did last minute "panic" trade heeney to crisp to strengthen the backline.
Quote from: SilverLion on April 07, 2019, 09:22:04 AM
Quote from: frenzy on April 07, 2019, 09:15:46 AM
Didn't watch Carlton + Sydney, was Setterfield tagging again or just showerhouse. Either way, time to dump and run.
To who? No juicy fwd rookies on the bubble this week.
Correct, so may have to be next week or I could go the ballsy route and bring in Sydney a week early. Or pay showerloads for Rozee. Either way, Setters has stalled and if your starting him onfield he's a liability.
Quote from: crowls on April 07, 2019, 10:56:03 AM
what do people think of hore to lockhart.
So pissed was 3500 short of getting lloyd in for heeney, decided I would sit another week and then did last minute "panic" trade heeney to crisp to strengthen the backline.
probably need to ask a Melbourne fan, but as a dons fan at the game Friday is was very open and very free flowing. Read somewhere Melbourne fan said he looked very good live and he clearly has some upside with 57% DE hurting his score however... 14 possies with 6 of them contested and 2 goals, 5 marks few tackles - a score of only 57 SC is pretty off-putting to me.
He won't be fortunate enough to play my dons every week and if he plays deep forward he probably won't get numbers much higher than that?
I'm planning to trade Hore when a good rookie bubble is available, so lockhart was on the list to watch for me but not too sure.
In saying that though - I'm not too sure what other options exist, Rotham at WCE has to be a drop risk so if Melbourne internally rate Lockhart really highly then it might be worth the punt.
Cash gen took a bit of a hit this week!
Anyone looking at Lockhart?
Will probably give him a miss, not convinced he won't be another 50 ave slow burner
Stack on the other hand! Will cull the biggest dud next week (Atkins, Gibbons, Balta, Setters)
Quote from: Gigantor on April 07, 2019, 09:52:55 PM
Cash gen took a bit of a hit this week!
Anyone looking at Lockhart?
Will probably give him a miss, not convinced he won't be another 50 ave slow burner
Stack on the other hand! Will cull the biggest dud next week (Atkins, Gibbons, Balta, Setters)
Exactly
Not touching any Dees rookies and will look to dump someone for Stack next week
Hopefully no trades this week
not looking at Lockhart
in 2 weeks he scored 89 points total while kicking 3 goals
Quote from: sammy123 on April 06, 2019, 10:33:35 PM
Drew's scores could dry up. Well done to whoever picled up rozee
Yeah I got Rozee in for Greene after round 1.
160k profit and an 85 and 116. Plus the cash he's making.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 07, 2019, 09:59:23 PM
not looking at Lockhart
in 2 weeks he scored 89 points total while kicking 3 goals
Here's my take on Lockhart, first thing is he's got that midfield link, perfect when teaming up with Duursma. This can work well for both coverage & also a roving donut in the event he gets dropped. The other point is he's only 102k so doesn't need to score that well to make you a quick 100k, that's of course if you prefer cash over loopholing. Given Hore is on the outer I can see plenty of merit in selecting him. At worst, you can tuck him away at M11 & use him when needed.
So with dusty and cotch out. Stack could find even more of the pill. So so a 50+ this week and hes in my team
Quote from: sammy123 on April 08, 2019, 09:25:19 PM
So with dusty and cotch out. Stack could find even more of the pill. So so a 50+ this week and hes in my team
I know he's a gun but I think 40+ possessions would be a more reasonable expectation. He's only 18!
Quote from: LaHug on April 08, 2019, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on April 08, 2019, 09:25:19 PM
So with dusty and cotch out. Stack could find even more of the pill. So so a 50+ this week and hes in my team
I know he's a gun but I think 40+ possessions would be a more reasonable expectation. He's only 18!
Quote from: LaHug on April 08, 2019, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on April 08, 2019, 09:25:19 PM
So with dusty and cotch out. Stack could find even more of the pill. So so a 50+ this week and hes in my team
I know he's a gun but I think 40+ possessions would be a more reasonable expectation. He's only 18!
40 possies and 150SC sounds good
Quote from: Bully on April 08, 2019, 08:32:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 07, 2019, 09:59:23 PM
not looking at Lockhart
in 2 weeks he scored 89 points total while kicking 3 goals
Here's my take on Lockhart, first thing is he's got that midfield link, perfect when teaming up with Duursma. This can work well for both coverage & also a roving donut in the event he gets dropped. The other point is he's only 102k so doesn't need to score that well to make you a quick 100k, that's of course if you prefer cash over loopholing. Given Hore is on the outer I can see plenty of merit in selecting him. At worst, you can tuck him away at M11 & use him when needed.
I'm thinking if Hore doesn't get named, a trade down to Lockhart could be warranted.
I agree that his scoring has been pretty average, but they signed him and debut him within 12 days (I think), so the club clearly rates him.
Bargain basement price, linked with Duursma, he does tick a lot of boxes. Assuming he gets named this week.
All this talk about link with Duursma... Don't we all have Duursma down back where we'd be trading in Lockhart? And we won't be moving one of them to the mids anytime soon because Stack would be the one to bring in next week.
Quote from: LaHug on April 09, 2019, 09:11:23 AM
All this talk about link with Duursma... Don't we all have Duursma down back where we'd be trading in Lockhart? And we won't be moving one of them to the mids anytime soon because Stack would be the one to bring in next week.
I'm planning on getting Stack for Gibbons
Quote from: LaHug on April 09, 2019, 09:11:23 AM
All this talk about link with Duursma... Don't we all have Duursma down back where we'd be trading in Lockhart? And we won't be moving one of them to the mids anytime soon because Stack would be the one to bring in next week.
He's in my midfield currently. Started in defence, but flicked a few around to get Wilkie in for Balta.
Quote from: jfitty on April 09, 2019, 09:45:54 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 09, 2019, 09:11:23 AM
All this talk about link with Duursma... Don't we all have Duursma down back where we'd be trading in Lockhart? And we won't be moving one of them to the mids anytime soon because Stack would be the one to bring in next week.
He's in my midfield currently. Started in defence, but flicked a few around to get Wilkie in for Balta.
In that case, Lockhart makes a lot of sense.
Quote from: Fid on April 09, 2019, 09:39:50 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 09, 2019, 09:11:23 AM
All this talk about link with Duursma... Don't we all have Duursma down back where we'd be trading in Lockhart? And we won't be moving one of them to the mids anytime soon because Stack would be the one to bring in next week.
I'm planning on getting Stack for Gibbons
Looks like trade for next week Although will assess B/e of Scott and Atkins as well. Scott could be the one to go though already made $47k and a B/e of 25 this week so probably he is closest to fattening - Gibbons 0 and Atkins - 1 the other 2 B/E. Gibbons has only made 22k and Atkins 35k. Know we usually say a trade has to be worth 100k but need to take into consideration what Stack will gain.
Quote from: LaHug on April 09, 2019, 09:47:04 AM
Quote from: jfitty on April 09, 2019, 09:45:54 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 09, 2019, 09:11:23 AM
All this talk about link with Duursma... Don't we all have Duursma down back where we'd be trading in Lockhart? And we won't be moving one of them to the mids anytime soon because Stack would be the one to bring in next week.
He's in my midfield currently. Started in defence, but flicked a few around to get Wilkie in for Balta.
In that case, Lockhart makes a lot of sense.
As a strategic play I'm definitely considering Lockhart, if he makes 150k then fantastic but even if he doesn't the fact he can become a roving donut for 5 bench players makes him very valuable.
This may be a stupid question but is it too late to bring in Rozee?
Already risen $70.5k. Still has an 85 in his rolling avg for one more week and also has a 116 in his rolling avg for the next two weeks. BE of -48 and projected to hit 400k around round 7-8.
I feel the ship has sailed. Just spewing I bailed on my Greene to Rozee trade, was scared away by the haters of Rozee’s co$t.
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 09, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
This may be a stupid question but is it too late to bring in Rozee?
Already risen $70.5k. Still has an 85 in his rolling avg for one more week and also has a 116 in his rolling avg for the next two weeks. BE of -48 and projected to hit 400k around round 7-8.
I feel the ship has sailed. Just spewing I bailed on my Greene to Rozee trade, was scared away by the haters of Rozee’s co$t.
Worth considering for sure. So many rookies took a massive hit on their cash gen on the weekend right when it hurts most. My whole bench is making nearly nothing now apart from Constable (M9). I might sideways to a Lockhart (bank some chump change) depending on team announcements but either way I need at least 2 or 3 of my rookies to get a 60+ in their average asap else I am gonna be stuck badly for anything evening resembling an upgrade.
Actually Petrol is going OK. Still, only 2 benchies making any reasonable coin is clearly not want a fantasy coach is hoping for.
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 09, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
This may be a stupid question but is it too late to bring in Rozee?
Already risen $70.5k. Still has an 85 in his rolling avg for one more week and also has a 116 in his rolling avg for the next two weeks. BE of -48 and projected to hit 400k around round 7-8.
I feel the ship has sailed. Just spewing I bailed on my Greene to Rozee trade, was scared away by the haters of Rozee’s co$t.
I think too late if you believe Greene will also make some cash in due course, I think at a minimum Greene will hit 450k at some point so even if Rozee maintains his average he'll still only make 50k more so not worth a trade.
rather marshall if u have the cash
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 09, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
This may be a stupid question but is it too late to bring in Rozee?
Already risen $70.5k. Still has an 85 in his rolling avg for one more week and also has a 116 in his rolling avg for the next two weeks. BE of -48 and projected to hit 400k around round 7-8.
I feel the ship has sailed. Just spewing I bailed on my Greene to Rozee trade, was scared away by the haters of Rozee’s co$t.
The ship has sailed IMO and Rozee is not going to kick 5 goals every week. His pre-season form wasn't all that good either, so in a sample size of 5 games he has only played one and a half decent games so far. His 5 games scores have been 41, 44, 67, 85, 116. He kicked 2 goals against the Blues to get the 85 and 5 goals against the Lions to get the 116. Unless you have huge exposure having to play a very dicey rookie on the field in Fwd or Def, then Rozee is not worth chasing.
Quote from: Wanderer on April 09, 2019, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 09, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
This may be a stupid question but is it too late to bring in Rozee?
Already risen $70.5k. Still has an 85 in his rolling avg for one more week and also has a 116 in his rolling avg for the next two weeks. BE of -48 and projected to hit 400k around round 7-8.
I feel the ship has sailed. Just spewing I bailed on my Greene to Rozee trade, was scared away by the haters of Rozee’s co$t.
The ship has sailed IMO and Rozee is not going to kick 5 goals every week. His pre-season form wasn't all that good either, so in a sample size of 5 games he has only played one and a half decent games so far. His 5 games scores have been 41, 44, 67, 85, 116. He kicked 2 goals against the Blues to get the 85 and 5 goals against the Lions to get the 116. Unless you have huge exposure having to play a very dicey rookie on the field in Fwd or Def, then Rozee is not worth chasing.
5 goals against a top 2 side is a great effort though. Could double that this week against a non-contender.
Quote from: GoLions on April 09, 2019, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on April 09, 2019, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 09, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
This may be a stupid question but is it too late to bring in Rozee?
Already risen $70.5k. Still has an 85 in his rolling avg for one more week and also has a 116 in his rolling avg for the next two weeks. BE of -48 and projected to hit 400k around round 7-8.
I feel the ship has sailed. Just spewing I bailed on my Greene to Rozee trade, was scared away by the haters of Rozee’s co$t.
The ship has sailed IMO and Rozee is not going to kick 5 goals every week. His pre-season form wasn't all that good either, so in a sample size of 5 games he has only played one and a half decent games so far. His 5 games scores have been 41, 44, 67, 85, 116. He kicked 2 goals against the Blues to get the 85 and 5 goals against the Lions to get the 116. Unless you have huge exposure having to play a very dicey rookie on the field in Fwd or Def, then Rozee is not worth chasing.
5 goals against a top 2 side is a great effort though. Could double that this week against a non-contender.
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: GoLions on April 09, 2019, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on April 09, 2019, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 09, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
This may be a stupid question but is it too late to bring in Rozee?
Already risen $70.5k. Still has an 85 in his rolling avg for one more week and also has a 116 in his rolling avg for the next two weeks. BE of -48 and projected to hit 400k around round 7-8.
I feel the ship has sailed. Just spewing I bailed on my Greene to Rozee trade, was scared away by the haters of Rozee’s co$t.
The ship has sailed IMO and Rozee is not going to kick 5 goals every week. His pre-season form wasn't all that good either, so in a sample size of 5 games he has only played one and a half decent games so far. His 5 games scores have been 41, 44, 67, 85, 116. He kicked 2 goals against the Blues to get the 85 and 5 goals against the Lions to get the 116. Unless you have huge exposure having to play a very dicey rookie on the field in Fwd or Def, then Rozee is not worth chasing.
5 goals against a top 2 side is a great effort though. Could double that this week against a non-contender.
Haha.....according to your logic, the Blues kept him to only 2 goals so they are a better team than the Lions :P
In the mix article on afl site has wilkie being dropped this week
Quote from: YoungGun on April 07, 2019, 12:24:39 PM
Quote from: crowls on April 07, 2019, 10:56:03 AM
what do people think of hore to lockhart.
So pissed was 3500 short of getting lloyd in for heeney, decided I would sit another week and then did last minute "panic" trade heeney to crisp to strengthen the backline.
probably need to ask a Melbourne fan, but as a dons fan at the game Friday is was very open and very free flowing. Read somewhere Melbourne fan said he looked very good live and he clearly has some upside with 57% DE hurting his score however... 14 possies with 6 of them contested and 2 goals, 5 marks few tackles - a score of only 57 SC is pretty off-putting to me.
He won't be fortunate enough to play my dons every week and if he plays deep forward he probably won't get numbers much higher than that?
I'm planning to trade Hore when a good rookie bubble is available, so lockhart was on the list to watch for me but not too sure.
thanks, a second look see him as probably a slow burn at best. be nice if they gave hore an extended series of games.
Quote from: sammy123 on April 09, 2019, 02:26:16 PM
In the mix article on afl site has wilkie being dropped this week
I reckon Atkins and Scott would be in the gun as well.
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 09, 2019, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on April 09, 2019, 02:26:16 PM
In the mix article on afl site has wilkie being dropped this week
I reckon Atkins and Scott would be in the gun as well.
wilkie, hore and scrimshaw is how I ended up trading heeney for crisp. I couldn't sit with the three in def last week on extended bench. traded ridley to wilike the week before because hore and ridley dropped. then bloody ridley is late in last week. trades for nothing. I need the internet to go down from thur 6pm to sat midnight to save me from myself
Quote from: crowls on April 09, 2019, 03:19:36 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 09, 2019, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on April 09, 2019, 02:26:16 PM
In the mix article on afl site has wilkie being dropped this week
I reckon Atkins and Scott would be in the gun as well.
wilkie, hore and scrimshaw is how I ended up trading heeney for crisp. I couldn't sit with the three in def last week on extended bench. traded ridley to wilike the week before because hore and ridley dropped. then bloody ridley is late in last week. trades for nothing. I need the internet to go down from thur 6pm to sat midnight to save me from myself
You might need to get yourself one of those apps that helps regulate childrens access to the internet :P
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 09, 2019, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on April 09, 2019, 02:26:16 PM
In the mix article on afl site has wilkie being dropped this week
I reckon Atkins and Scott would be in the gun as well.
Cant see atkins being dropped. Scott though i can
Quote from: sammy123 on April 09, 2019, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 09, 2019, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on April 09, 2019, 02:26:16 PM
In the mix article on afl site has wilkie being dropped this week
I reckon Atkins and Scott would be in the gun as well.
Cant see atkins being dropped. Scott though i can
bloodyhell Sammy I hope not, did not start with atkins and have scott. Not trading this week. just slow up the cash gen and won't stop me beating you this week in KO.
Quote from: crowls on April 09, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on April 09, 2019, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 09, 2019, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on April 09, 2019, 02:26:16 PM
In the mix article on afl site has wilkie being dropped this week
I reckon Atkins and Scott would be in the gun as well.
Cant see atkins being dropped. Scott though i can
bloodyhell Sammy I hope not, did not start with atkins and have scott. Not trading this week. just slow up the cash gen and won't stop me beating you this week in KO.
Ha im trying to figure out what to do with big fyfe
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 09, 2019, 03:10:38 PM
I reckon Atkins and Scott would be in the gun as well.
And Gibbons. His possession numbers were pretty pathetic. I think what keeps him safe is our small forward stocks suck and we have two guys out that would replace him (Cuningham and Pickett)
Quote from: Wanderer on April 09, 2019, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 09, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
This may be a stupid question but is it too late to bring in Rozee?
Already risen $70.5k. Still has an 85 in his rolling avg for one more week and also has a 116 in his rolling avg for the next two weeks. BE of -48 and projected to hit 400k around round 7-8.
I feel the ship has sailed. Just spewing I bailed on my Greene to Rozee trade, was scared away by the haters of Rozee’s co$t.
The ship has sailed IMO and Rozee is not going to kick 5 goals every week. His pre-season form wasn't all that good either, so in a sample size of 5 games he has only played one and a half decent games so far. His 5 games scores have been 41, 44, 67, 85, 116. He kicked 2 goals against the Blues to get the 85 and 5 goals against the Lions to get the 116. Unless you have huge exposure having to play a very dicey rookie on the field in Fwd or Def, then Rozee is not worth chasing.
Don't Setterfield, Parker, Drew, Clark etc. qualify as "very dicey rookies" though?
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 10, 2019, 01:09:46 PM
Quote from: Wanderer on April 09, 2019, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 09, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
This may be a stupid question but is it too late to bring in Rozee?
Already risen $70.5k. Still has an 85 in his rolling avg for one more week and also has a 116 in his rolling avg for the next two weeks. BE of -48 and projected to hit 400k around round 7-8.
I feel the ship has sailed. Just spewing I bailed on my Greene to Rozee trade, was scared away by the haters of Rozee’s co$t.
The ship has sailed IMO and Rozee is not going to kick 5 goals every week. His pre-season form wasn't all that good either, so in a sample size of 5 games he has only played one and a half decent games so far. His 5 games scores have been 41, 44, 67, 85, 116. He kicked 2 goals against the Blues to get the 85 and 5 goals against the Lions to get the 116. Unless you have huge exposure having to play a very dicey rookie on the field in Fwd or Def, then Rozee is not worth chasing.
Don't Setterfield, Parker, Drew, Clark etc. qualify as "very dicey rookies" though?
Clark been playing very well so safe for a while. Setters been average. Parker 1 bad game and drew 1 bad game. Hoping they can all have a good week this week do we can all get more money from them
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies
Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged
Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies
Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged
Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench
I don't think they can be ignored though.
Some teams are fielding as many as 6 rookies across defence and forwards, while some teams are fortunate to get away with only 4 (achieved by fielding 3 rookies in the midfield).
The teams fielding 6 are possibly at a disadvantage right now, so should they be urgently adjusting their structure or consider a high scoring rookie like Rozee as a stop-gap solution instead?
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 10, 2019, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies
Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged
Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench
I don't think they can be ignored though.
Some teams are fielding as many as 6 rookies across defence and forwards, while some teams are fortunate to get away with only 4 (achieved by fielding 3 rookies in the midfield).
The teams fielding 6 are possibly at a disadvantage right now, so should they be urgently adjusting their structure or consider a high scoring rookie like Rozee as a stop-gap solution instead?
Thing is, Rozee is still a rookie, and could still be out scored by those guys next round. Then you’ve wasted a trade and a lot of money..
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 10, 2019, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies
Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged
Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench
I don't think they can be ignored though.
Some teams are fielding as many as 6 rookies across defence and forwards, while some teams are fortunate to get away with only 4 (achieved by fielding 3 rookies in the midfield).
The teams fielding 6 are possibly at a disadvantage right now, so should they be urgently adjusting their structure or consider a high scoring rookie like Rozee as a stop-gap solution instead?
Rozee over his 5 games so far including pre-season has had one great game kicking 5 goals, another good game against "Carlton", and 3 shockers for somebody at his price. In his first 3 games he averaged low 50's. A high price to pay for somebody not really guaranteed to score more than the other rookie options.
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 10, 2019, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies
Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged
Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench
I don't think they can be ignored though.
Some teams are fielding as many as 6 rookies across defence and forwards, while some teams are fortunate to get away with only 4 (achieved by fielding 3 rookies in the midfield).
The teams fielding 6 are possibly at a disadvantage right now, so should they be urgently adjusting their structure or consider a high scoring rookie like Rozee as a stop-gap solution instead?
I would think that the teams only fielding 4 probably have several mid pricers like Brodie Smith etc so although they might have less "rookies" on field now, overall they are no better off and will end up having to use more trades likely
I have Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma on field and Drew/Setters on field (rotate with Parker) and I'm ranked just outside 1k overall atm so I don't see a need to get these types off the field right now, not at the expense of using valuable trades or bring in speculative players
And like the others have said, I don't see Rozee as a must at all at his price. He won't be kicking 5 every week. If you started him, fine, but no way would I bring him in now
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 10, 2019, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies
Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged
Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench
I don't think they can be ignored though.
Some teams are fielding as many as 6 rookies across defence and forwards, while some teams are fortunate to get away with only 4 (achieved by fielding 3 rookies in the midfield).
The teams fielding 6 are possibly at a disadvantage right now, so should they be urgently adjusting their structure or consider a high scoring rookie like Rozee as a stop-gap solution instead?
I would think that the teams only fielding 4 probably have several mid pricers like Brodie Smith etc so although they might have less "rookies" on field now, overall they are no better off and will end up having to use more trades likely
I have Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma on field and Drew/Setters on field (rotate with Parker) and I'm ranked just outside 1k overall atm so I don't see a need to get these types off the field right now, not at the expense of using valuable trades or bring in speculative players
And like the others have said, I don't see Rozee as a must at all at his price. If he was averaging as much as Walsh then maybe, but there are guys way cheaper matching him, and he won't be kicking 5 every week. If you started him, fine, but no way would I bring him in now
Tbf Rozee averages more than Walsh... But too late to get him in anyways. I’ve got only 6 rooks on field, but also running midpricers as you mentioned, so time will show if it pays off in the long run
Hah, I edited that out but you must have quoted me just before I did lol
Rozee was a fine starting selection, but not someone to look at bringing in now. There is no doubt he won't maintain this and will be churning out scores similar to the other fwd rookies soon enough
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:33:09 PM
Hah, I edited that out but you must have quoted me just before I did lol
Rozee was a fine starting selection, but not someone to look at bringing in now. There is no doubt he won't maintain this and will be churning out scores similar to the other fwd rookies soon enough
That’s just it. A 100+ score is an anomaly for a rookie. People are quick to forget Drew killed it first game, and so did Scott. Now they’re ‘liabilities’. It’s just unfortunate their big score isn’t in the rotation long enough. Another couple of price rises from Rozee and I’m likely to wave goodbye unless he keeps getting 100s
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:33:09 PM
Hah, I edited that out but you must have quoted me just before I did lol
Rozee was a fine starting selection, but not someone to look at bringing in now. There is no doubt he won't maintain this and will be churning out scores similar to the other fwd rookies soon enough
Exactly. If you didn't get him before his price went up then its a waste trying to get him in now. I don't see why people are even contemplating going after Rozee now. It smells of desperation. Just don't quote me when he pumps out another couple of 100's :P
Quote from: Wanderer on April 10, 2019, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:33:09 PM
Hah, I edited that out but you must have quoted me just before I did lol
Rozee was a fine starting selection, but not someone to look at bringing in now. There is no doubt he won't maintain this and will be churning out scores similar to the other fwd rookies soon enough
Exactly. If you didn't get him before his price went up then its a waste trying to get him in now. I don't see why people are even contemplating going after Rozee now. It smells of desperation. Just don't quote me when he pumps out another couple of 100's :P
Dont go chasing yesterday's points
Anyone got the BE for the rookies so far?
I have the following list
Backs
Rozee
Collins
Scrimshaw
Clark
Duursma
Wilkie
Burgess
McKay
Lockhart (bubble)
Markov (bubble)
Mids
Walsh
Cousins
LDU
Butters
Constable
Bailey Smith
Jones
Scott
Thomas (bubble)
Gibbons
Atkins
Wagner (bubble)
Rucks
None this week
Forwards
McCarthy (not a rookie but looks like he should have good cash gen)
Powell
Drew
Lukosius (lost cash)
Blakey
Parker
Setters
Miers
Petruccelle
Balta (bubble)
Polson (bubble)
Too many players for me to be bothered to get every single one of their BE's to be honest, but I'll post the ones for the rookies I have in my side, just because it's all on field in my team :)
Backs
Scrimshaw -26
Clark -16
Duursma -32
Wilkie 4
Burgess -16
Mids
Walsh -36
Constable -59
Scott 25
Gibbons 0
Atkins -1
Forwards
Drew -12
Parker -26
Setters 17
Petruccelle -19
So of that list, Wilkie, Gibbons and Scott could have stagnated. Setters is pretty close and the rest seem like they will make a nice chunk of change at least this week. Drew and Parker will maybe struggle to burn through their poor scores from the weekend which will linger another week but it seems decent enough
I just checked on Footywire as well. Looks like the BE's for Scrimshaw, Clark and Duursma match. Looks like they will be a reliable source. I might post the list based off that if someone wants to cross check it for me with Gold.
Backs
Rozee -48
Collins -33
Scrimshaw -26
Clark -16
Duursma -32
Wilkie 4
Burgess -16
McKay 27
Lockhart (bubble) -29
Markov (bubble) -4
Mids
Walsh -36
Cousins 1
LDU -27
Butters -31
Constable -59
Bailey Smith -26
Jones 26
Scott 25
Thomas (bubble) 20
Gibbons 0
Atkins -1
Wagner (bubble) -53
Rucks
None this week
Forwards
McCarthy (not a rookie but looks like he should have good cash gen) 5
Powell 18
Drew -12
Lukosius (lost cash) 63
Blakey 13
Parker -26
Setters 17
Miers -48
Petruccelle -19
Balta (bubble) 24
Polson (bubble) 40
Libba, Marshall & Moore the other 3 named negative BE non-1 game players in the game (-55, -24 & -3 respectively).
Sydney Stack has a BE of -105.
Happy for any others on request. (SC Gold)
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 10, 2019, 10:31:01 PM
Anyone got the BE for the rookies so far?
I have the following list
Backs
Rozee - -48
Collins - -33
Scrimshaw - -26
Clark - -16
Duursma - -32
Wilkie - 4
Burgess - -16
McKay - 27
Lockhart (bubble) - -29
Markov (bubble) - -4
Mids
Walsh - -36
Cousins - 1
LDU - -27
Butters - -31
Constable - -59
Bailey Smith - -26
Jones - 26
Scott - 25
Thomas (bubble) - 20
Gibbons - 0
Atkins - -1
Wagner (bubble) - -53
Rucks
None this week
Forwards
McCarthy (not a rookie but looks like he should have good cash gen) - 5
Powell - 18
Drew - -12
Lukosius (lost cash) -
Blakey - 63
Parker - -26
Setters - 17
Miers - -48
Petruccelle - -19
Balta (bubble) - 24 (and averaging 24.5)
Polson (bubble) - 40
Darcy Moore also has a break even of -3
Miers and Rozee still have a ton of burn. Should be big money makers over the next fortnight
Quote from: Koop on April 10, 2019, 10:54:59 PM
Backs
Rozee -48
Collins -33
Scrimshaw -26
Clark -16
Duursma -32
Wilkie 4
Burgess -16
McKay 27
Lockhart (bubble) -29
Markov (bubble) -4
Mids
Walsh -36
Cousins 1
LDU -27
Butters -31
Constable -59
Bailey Smith -26
Jones 26
Scott 25
Thomas (bubble) 20
Gibbons 0
Atkins -1
Wagner (bubble) -53
Rucks
None this week
Forwards
McCarthy (not a rookie but looks like he should have good cash gen) 5
Powell 18
Drew -12
Lukosius (lost cash) 63
Blakey 13
Parker -26
Setters 17
Miers -48
Petruccelle -19
Balta (bubble) 24
Polson (bubble) 40
Libba, Marshall & Moore the other 3 named negative BE non-1 game players in the game (-55, -24 & -3 respectively).
Sydney Stack has a BE of -105.
Happy for any others on request. (SC Gold)
Thanks Koop. Got my numbers from Footywire and they look spot on. It's good to have a reliable source when it comes to this stuff.
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 10, 2019, 10:57:04 PM
Quote from: Koop on April 10, 2019, 10:54:59 PM
Backs
Rozee -48
Collins -33
Scrimshaw -26
Clark -16
Duursma -32
Wilkie 4
Burgess -16
McKay 27
Lockhart (bubble) -29
Markov (bubble) -4
Mids
Walsh -36
Cousins 1
LDU -27
Butters -31
Constable -59
Bailey Smith -26
Jones 26
Scott 25
Thomas (bubble) 20
Gibbons 0
Atkins -1
Wagner (bubble) -53
Rucks
None this week
Forwards
McCarthy (not a rookie but looks like he should have good cash gen) 5
Powell 18
Drew -12
Lukosius (lost cash) 63
Blakey 13
Parker -26
Setters 17
Miers -48
Petruccelle -19
Balta (bubble) 24
Polson (bubble) 40
Libba, Marshall & Moore the other 3 named negative BE non-1 game players in the game (-55, -24 & -3 respectively).
Sydney Stack has a BE of -105.
Happy for any others on request. (SC Gold)
Thanks Koop. Got my numbers from Footywire and they look spot on. It's good to have a reliable source when it comes to this stuff.
+1
Wish hore had this game AFTER his bubble
Still glad I kept him though!
Anyone know how many people traded out Hore?
So do we trade hore back in hahaha
Looks like I will have to trade Hore back in now. LOL!
Balta > Hore via Burgess most likely.
And Scott > Stack.
Man there's some shower rookies around this year....
Quote from: Judd Magic on April 11, 2019, 10:09:20 PM
Looks like I will have to trade Hore back in now. LOL!
Balta > Hore via Burgess most likely.
And Scott > Stack.
Man there's some shower rookies around this year....
Rookies are fine... just need to know which ones to pick, and stick by them when you do.
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 11, 2019, 10:12:26 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on April 11, 2019, 10:09:20 PM
Looks like I will have to trade Hore back in now. LOL!
Balta > Hore via Burgess most likely.
And Scott > Stack.
Man there's some shower rookies around this year....
Rookies are fine... just need to know which ones to pick, and stick by them when you do.
More luck if you stuck with Hore than anything else.
His JS looked very dodgy before tonight so trading him out was the right thing to do in hindsight. ::)
Hore and Stack in next week.
Then might be able to get a rookie up too a Lloyd/Macrae type the following.
I traded Hore out after Round 1 and I'm completely fine with - was the right decision imo
If anything, it's worked out well because I now have a downgrade option next week, where as those that held him don't
Obviously I'm using a trade, but that's standard and required when downgrading and I brought in Wilkie for Hore so that got me another rookie who is making cash
Who to dump next week for Hore and Stack will be the tough decision, because I really don't want trade guys that haven't made much as it's a waste to only net 60k or so when downgrading - need to be getting more than that
Might look at someone like Drew or Setters if they have another stinker
If scott isnt back next week i will drop him down to stack
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2019, 10:23:26 PM
I traded Hore out after Round 1 and I'm completely fine with - was the right decision imo
If anything, it's worked out well because I now have a downgrade option next week, where as those that held him don't
Obviously I'm using a trade, but that's standard and required when downgrading and I brought in Wilkie for Hore so that got me another rookie who is making cash
Who to dump next week for Hore and Stack will be the tough decision, because I really don't want trade guys that haven't made much as it's a waste to only net 60k or so when downgrading - need to be getting more than that
Might look at someone like Drew or Setters if they have another stinker
Yeah would like at least $100,000.00 from the downgrade so Setterfield (if spuds it up) to Stack might be the best bet.
If you are stuck with a potato like Balta though then you'd probably trade him out for one of Stack or Hore as well.
Quote from: Judd Magic on April 11, 2019, 10:53:49 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2019, 10:23:26 PM
I traded Hore out after Round 1 and I'm completely fine with - was the right decision imo
If anything, it's worked out well because I now have a downgrade option next week, where as those that held him don't
Obviously I'm using a trade, but that's standard and required when downgrading and I brought in Wilkie for Hore so that got me another rookie who is making cash
Who to dump next week for Hore and Stack will be the tough decision, because I really don't want trade guys that haven't made much as it's a waste to only net 60k or so when downgrading - need to be getting more than that
Might look at someone like Drew or Setters if they have another stinker
Yeah would like at least $100,000.00 from the downgrade so Setterfield (if spuds it up) to Stack might be the best bet.
If you are stuck with a potato like Balta though then you'd probably trade him out for one of Stack or Hore as well.
Balta only needs one big game, can't see any reason to trade rookies who are playing.
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 11, 2019, 10:04:13 PM
Wish hore had this game AFTER his bubble
Still glad I kept him though!
+1
Quote from: YoungGun on April 11, 2019, 11:16:17 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 11, 2019, 10:04:13 PM
Wish hore had this game AFTER his bubble
Still glad I kept him though!
+1
A bit of dumb luck goes a long way! Having Hore at D8 makes up for Angus having a pretty ordinary night out.
I had Hore at D6, ahead of Wilkie and Burgess
Might be bringing Hore back in lol.
Quote from: Fid on April 12, 2019, 07:27:59 AM
I had Hore at D6, ahead of Wilkie and Burgess
Well played. D8 for me
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2019, 11:08:50 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on April 11, 2019, 10:53:49 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2019, 10:23:26 PM
I traded Hore out after Round 1 and I'm completely fine with - was the right decision imo
If anything, it's worked out well because I now have a downgrade option next week, where as those that held him don't
Obviously I'm using a trade, but that's standard and required when downgrading and I brought in Wilkie for Hore so that got me another rookie who is making cash
Who to dump next week for Hore and Stack will be the tough decision, because I really don't want trade guys that haven't made much as it's a waste to only net 60k or so when downgrading - need to be getting more than that
Might look at someone like Drew or Setters if they have another stinker
Yeah would like at least $100,000.00 from the downgrade so Setterfield (if spuds it up) to Stack might be the best bet.
If you are stuck with a potato like Balta though then you'd probably trade him out for one of Stack or Hore as well.
Balta only needs one big game, can't see any reason to trade rookies who are playing.
Only needs 1 big game, but how is that happening? Richmond are severely depleted and he can't get near the ball at the best of times. Plus he is straight out when Jack is back. Wish I never picked the spud.
I've made 4 trades in the first 2 weeks but still kept Hore :P I was going to trade him this week but the late in saved him.
He looked good but there's no doubt that his JS is still shaky, he could be pushed out any week due to matchups.
What rookies are on the bubble next week?
Hore
Lockart
Stack
Clarke
Anybody else worth considering?
I am strongly considering Zac Clarke - he's a spud, but it means moving Bines to F8 and I think being able to use him to loop the trash fwd rookies each week would be a big bonus and worth it
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 11:02:20 AM
What rookies are on the bubble next week?
Hore
Lockart
Stack
Clarke
Anybody else worth considering?
I am strongly considering Zac Clarke - he's a spud, but it means moving Bines to F8 and I think being able to use him to loop the trash fwd rookies each week would be a big bonus and worth it
Reilly O'Brien maybe?
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 12, 2019, 11:10:55 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 11:02:20 AM
What rookies are on the bubble next week?
Hore
Lockart
Stack
Clarke
Anybody else worth considering?
I am strongly considering Zac Clarke - he's a spud, but it means moving Bines to F8 and I think being able to use him to loop the trash fwd rookies each week would be a big bonus and worth it
Reilly O'Brien maybe?
I figure he is gone once Sauce returns
At least McKernan is out for 6-7 weeks so might give Clarke a chance to make some $, then trade him back out later and move Bines back to R3
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 12, 2019, 11:10:55 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 11:02:20 AM
What rookies are on the bubble next week?
Hore
Lockart
Stack
Clarke
Anybody else worth considering?
I am strongly considering Zac Clarke - he's a spud, but it means moving Bines to F8 and I think being able to use him to loop the trash fwd rookies each week would be a big bonus and worth it
Reilly O'Brien maybe?
Don't go there, all the talk from the Crows is that Sauce is an important player and they can't wait to have him back in the team, he'll probably come straight back in next week despite the fact he's cooked.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 11:02:20 AM
What rookies are on the bubble next week?
Hore
Lockart
Stack
Clarke
Anybody else worth considering?
I am strongly considering Zac Clarke - he's a spud, but it means moving Bines to F8 and I think being able to use him to loop the trash fwd rookies each week would be a big bonus and worth it
Clarke is an interesting one but could be a very clever way of offloading one of the under perfprming forwards. Like this suggestion but he'll need to show a fair bit on the weekend.
Is there a chance Hore just gets dropped again next week when Jetta comes back in? He played well and the team won which always helps but just wondering what his chances are of actually stringing some games together
Quote from: quinny88 on April 12, 2019, 12:22:03 PM
Is there a chance Hore just gets dropped again next week when Jetta comes back in? He played well and the team won which always helps but just wondering what his chances are of actually stringing some games together
Zero chance, played a top game.
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 12, 2019, 12:22:03 PM
Is there a chance Hore just gets dropped again next week when Jetta comes back in? He played well and the team won which always helps but just wondering what his chances are of actually stringing some games together
Zero chance, played a top game.
I'm still likely to pass on him
I'd expect him to be in and out, and take too long to make cash
Jetta, May, Lewis all returning soon enough - KK too
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 12, 2019, 12:22:03 PM
Is there a chance Hore just gets dropped again next week when Jetta comes back in? He played well and the team won which always helps but just wondering what his chances are of actually stringing some games together
Zero chance, played a top game.
+1 - which is not helpful to me having gone Hore => Wilkie
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 12, 2019, 12:22:03 PM
Is there a chance Hore just gets dropped again next week when Jetta comes back in? He played well and the team won which always helps but just wondering what his chances are of actually stringing some games together
Zero chance, played a top game.
I'm still likely to pass on him
I'd expect him to be in and out, and take too long to make cash
Jetta, May, Lewis all returning soon enough - KK too
Up to you but I saw a player who could easily cement his position, particularly given Melbourne leaked goals in the first three rounds.
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 12, 2019, 12:22:03 PM
Is there a chance Hore just gets dropped again next week when Jetta comes back in? He played well and the team won which always helps but just wondering what his chances are of actually stringing some games together
Zero chance, played a top game.
I'm still likely to pass on him
I'd expect him to be in and out, and take too long to make cash
Jetta, May, Lewis all returning soon enough - KK too
Up to you but I saw a player who could easily cement his position, particularly given Melbourne leaked goals in the first three rounds.
Cheap Hore certainly looked high class last night
Quote from: Fid on April 12, 2019, 07:27:59 AM
I had Hore at D6, ahead of Wilkie and Burgess
I noticed fid, what inside info did you have to start hore? or just dumb luck?
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 12, 2019, 12:22:03 PM
Is there a chance Hore just gets dropped again next week when Jetta comes back in? He played well and the team won which always helps but just wondering what his chances are of actually stringing some games together
Zero chance, played a top game.
I'm still likely to pass on him
I'd expect him to be in and out, and take too long to make cash
Jetta, May, Lewis all returning soon enough - KK too
Up to you but I saw a player who could easily cement his position, particularly given Melbourne leaked goals in the first three rounds.
Well Jetta, May and Lewis walk back in
Frost probably goes for May (although he didn't last time)
What other two make way for Jetta and Lewis?
Hore should play next week, but another quiet game and he's first in line to be dropped again I'd think
Quote from: crowls on April 12, 2019, 01:02:55 PM
Quote from: Fid on April 12, 2019, 07:27:59 AM
I had Hore at D6, ahead of Wilkie and Burgess
I noticed fid, what inside info did you have to start hore? or just dumb luck?
The inside info was that Wilkie and Burgess are worse :P
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: crowls on April 12, 2019, 01:02:55 PM
Quote from: Fid on April 12, 2019, 07:27:59 AM
I had Hore at D6, ahead of Wilkie and Burgess
I noticed fid, what inside info did you have to start hore? or just dumb luck?
The inside info was that Wilkie and Burgess are worse :P
now your just rubbing it in RD. trying to get some depth into my depth is proving difficult. need simmo to get to mid 400s as quick as possible so I can trade him in. Laird likely to get under 500k?
Quote from: Wanderer on April 12, 2019, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 12, 2019, 12:22:03 PM
Is there a chance Hore just gets dropped again next week when Jetta comes back in? He played well and the team won which always helps but just wondering what his chances are of actually stringing some games together
Zero chance, played a top game.
I'm still likely to pass on him
I'd expect him to be in and out, and take too long to make cash
Jetta, May, Lewis all returning soon enough - KK too
Up to you but I saw a player who could easily cement his position, particularly given Melbourne leaked goals in the first three rounds.
Cheap Hore certainly looked high class last night
;D :-X
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 01:03:05 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 12, 2019, 12:22:03 PM
Is there a chance Hore just gets dropped again next week when Jetta comes back in? He played well and the team won which always helps but just wondering what his chances are of actually stringing some games together
Zero chance, played a top game.
I'm still likely to pass on him
I'd expect him to be in and out, and take too long to make cash
Jetta, May, Lewis all returning soon enough - KK too
Up to you but I saw a player who could easily cement his position, particularly given Melbourne leaked goals in the first three rounds.
Well Jetta, May and Lewis walk back in
Frost probably goes for May (although he didn't last time)
What other two make way for Jetta and Lewis?
Hore should play next week, but another quiet game and he's first in line to be dropped again I'd think
I wouldn't try and over complicate things, Dees won & that will earn significant brownie points. Hore was exceptional even without the ball, definitely can play at the highest level. For Goodwin he's that Lever replacement, don't know how that will affect the balance of the squad but there's a clear vacancy at present.
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 01:12:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 01:03:05 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2019, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 12, 2019, 12:22:03 PM
Is there a chance Hore just gets dropped again next week when Jetta comes back in? He played well and the team won which always helps but just wondering what his chances are of actually stringing some games together
Zero chance, played a top game.
I'm still likely to pass on him
I'd expect him to be in and out, and take too long to make cash
Jetta, May, Lewis all returning soon enough - KK too
Up to you but I saw a player who could easily cement his position, particularly given Melbourne leaked goals in the first three rounds.
Well Jetta, May and Lewis walk back in
Frost probably goes for May (although he didn't last time)
What other two make way for Jetta and Lewis?
Hore should play next week, but another quiet game and he's first in line to be dropped again I'd think
I wouldn't try and over complicate things, Dees won & that will earn significant brownie points. Hore was exceptional even without the ball, definitely can play at the highest level. For Goodwin he's that Lever replacement, don't know how that will affect the balance of the squad but there's a clear vacancy at present.
Agree here, I think Stretch would be the one who makes way for Jetta. Wagner for Lewis.
Was just thinking about the Setterfield/Drew/Parker trade to Clarke if he performs this week. If somehow we can survive a few rounds with Bines on the pine, trading in Hoff when he bottoms out could be super handy over the bye period. Reckon Hoff hits 400k in a few weeks, Clarke hopefully around 250k, think that's something to consider.
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 02:33:12 PM
Was just thinking about the Setterfield/Drew/Parker trade to Clarke if he performs this week. If somehow we can survive a few rounds with Bines on the pine, trading in Hoff when he bottoms out could be super handy over the bye period. Reckon Hoff hits 400k in a few weeks, Clarke hopefully around 250k, think that's something to consider.
Not worried about daniher pushing him out in a few weeks?
Yeah Daniher is back next week isn't he?
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 12, 2019, 02:46:42 PM
Yeah Daniher is back next week isn't he?
Think that's better than Daniher not being available, if they can play alongside of each other then there may be a 3-4 game stretch.
I reckon clark is almost done and dusted. Could be a trade to hore next week
Pretty sure Jack Ross did not miss a centre bounce in the first quarter for 6 touches.
Appreciate there's 7 quarters until he is on the bubble, but he is looking very good
It is only half time, but too bad for those that got Rozee this week after his price already went up. You were warned.
Butters having a stinker.
Quote from: Wanderer on April 13, 2019, 05:46:29 PM
Butters having a stinker.
Rozee just as bad
LOL @ the 13k people who traded him in this week
Jack Ross looking like a must have, not sure about Stack.
stack did this last week, see what dusty does to ross's output
Quote from: Bully on April 13, 2019, 05:53:17 PM
Jack Ross looking like a must have, not sure about Stack.
Last week Stack was looking like a must have... :P
Quote from: Bully on April 13, 2019, 05:53:17 PM
Jack Ross looking like a must have, not sure about Stack.
Stack's been a little disadvantaged by the ball not constantly hanging around half back like last week. He got heaps of intercepts and ball across half back and just didn't get that in the first half. Still an option given his price and role, especially after a good debut game, and I suspect he'll close out the game well.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 13, 2019, 05:54:43 PM
stack did this last week, see what dusty does to ross's output
Cotch out will help Ross string a few games together, even tempted to go a week early.
Rozee will still go up some ? needs to pull his finger out though, don't think that heavy fall on his arse helped 2 minutes in.
The amount of just straight up dumb things Balta does it quite comical
Looks like Balta’s first price change is down from 123k. Don’t think I have ever seen that before.
Quote from: Dolan on April 13, 2019, 07:15:12 PM
Looks like Balta’s first price change is down from 123k. Don’t think I have ever seen that before.
I traded him when he was fully fattened this week! Masterstroke ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 13, 2019, 06:52:24 PM
The amount of just straight up dumb things Balta does it quite comical
Just needs 1 game to get his value going, no different to most rookie talls.
Quote from: Bully on April 13, 2019, 07:22:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 13, 2019, 06:52:24 PM
The amount of just straight up dumb things Balta does it quite comical
Just needs 1 game to get his value going, no different to most rookie talls.
A 14 in his rolling average is not going to help things though.
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Quote from: Bully on April 13, 2019, 07:22:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 13, 2019, 06:52:24 PM
The amount of just straight up dumb things Balta does it quite comical
Just needs 1 game to get his value going, no different to most rookie talls.
A 14 in his rolling average is not going to help things though.
That certainly doesn't help, just gotta hope he produces a game like he did in JLT.
I'd be more worried about him keeping his spot than scoring like the JLT if I was a Balta owner
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 13, 2019, 08:28:29 PM
I'd be more worried about him keeping his spot than scoring like the JLT if I was a Balta owner
We'll see, reckon Dimma won't make too may changes.
70 for Josh Rotham at HT. JS will be an issue but that's a very solid half of footy.
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 13, 2019, 09:10:47 PM
70 for Josh Rotham at HT. JS will be an issue but that's a very solid half of footy.
If he tons up & gets named next week I think you have to take.
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 13, 2019, 09:10:47 PM
70 for Josh Rotham at HT. JS will be an issue but that's a very solid half of footy.
Looked very comfortable at the level in his debut last week too
Unfortunately he's first in line when we have a backman out, so will likely make way for Jetta next week
He should get more games, but will likely be in and out of the side
Has petrol jelly actually touched it since 1/4 time ::)
richmond boys dont have the best js given the outs, rotham looks ok if he can hold his spot, and o'brien could be a pick if he can keep sauce out. other than that i cant see any decent downgrades which is a worry
Quote from: WizzFizz on April 13, 2019, 11:25:59 PM
richmond boys dont have the best js given the outs, rotham looks ok if he can hold his spot, and o'brien could be a pick if he can keep sauce out. other than that i cant see any decent downgrades which is a worry
Plenty of good options this week, Stack, Rotham, Hore & Clarke. Then there's Ross if you're prepared to go early.
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Quote from: WizzFizz on April 13, 2019, 11:25:59 PM
richmond boys dont have the best js given the outs, rotham looks ok if he can hold his spot, and o'brien could be a pick if he can keep sauce out. other than that i cant see any decent downgrades which is a worry
Plenty of good options this week, Stack, Rotham, Hore & Clarke. Then there's Ross if you're prepared to go early.
Might have to decide between Hore and Rotham down back this week...
Not willing to risk Ross early, so he'll be on the cards next week
Quote from: Bully on April 13, 2019, 11:37:06 PM
Quote from: WizzFizz on April 13, 2019, 11:25:59 PM
richmond boys dont have the best js given the outs, rotham looks ok if he can hold his spot, and o'brien could be a pick if he can keep sauce out. other than that i cant see any decent downgrades which is a worry
Plenty of good options this week, Stack, Rotham, Hore & Clarke. Then there's Ross if you're prepared to go early.
Ill probably go for one of Rotham/Hore, and Stack next week. Out Scrimshaw/Clark and Butters. Should net me 230k ish, not huge but will keep cash gen going.
I think I’ll pass on Stack in anticipation of Ross the following week. I’m thinking Jetta might come in for Masten but yes the JS concrrns are there.
That being said, Butters for Rotham looks like the trade. No way Butters survives after his performance today. (Although that’s what we said about Gibbons)
Quote from: IntegralX on April 14, 2019, 12:35:04 AM
I think I’ll pass on Stack in anticipation of Ross the following week. I’m thinking Jetta might come in for Masten but yes the JS concrrns are there.
That being said, Butters for Rotham looks like the trade. No way Butters survives after his performance today. (Although that’s what we said about Gibbons)
Gibbons plays for Carlton though.. Carltons standards are pretty low
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Quote from: WizzFizz on April 13, 2019, 11:25:59 PM
richmond boys dont have the best js given the outs, rotham looks ok if he can hold his spot, and o'brien could be a pick if he can keep sauce out. other than that i cant see any decent downgrades which is a worry
Plenty of good options this week, Stack, Rotham, Hore & Clarke. Then there's Ross if you're prepared to go early.
Ill probably go for one of Rotham/Hore, and Stack next week. Out Scrimshaw/Clark and Butters. Should net me 230k ish, not huge but will keep cash gen going.
Probably Clark to Rotham, Atkins to Stack for me.
Quote from: IntegralX on April 14, 2019, 12:35:04 AM
I think I’ll pass on Stack in anticipation of Ross the following week. I’m thinking Jetta might come in for Masten but yes the JS concrrns are there.
That being said, Butters for Rotham looks like the trade. No way Butters survives after his performance today. (Although that’s what we said about Gibbons)
Barley watched the game, but Butters has been excellent the previous 3 weeks. Surprisingly the Port rookies have been really important for them in the first 3 weeks. They won't drop him over 1 where he struggled a bit
Rotham only made the cut this week as Jetta was a late withdrawal. His JS feels very shaky IMO
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Quote from: IntegralX on April 14, 2019, 12:35:04 AM
I think I’ll pass on Stack in anticipation of Ross the following week. I’m thinking Jetta might come in for Masten but yes the JS concrrns are there.
That being said, Butters for Rotham looks like the trade. No way Butters survives after his performance today. (Although that’s what we said about Gibbons)
Barley watched the game, but Butters has been excellent the previous 3 weeks. Surprisingly the Port rookies have been really important for them in the first 3 weeks. They won't drop him over 1 where he struggled a bit
He didn’t just “struggle a bitâ€. He was far and away the worst player on the pitch.
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I think I’ll pass on Stack in anticipation of Ross the following week. I’m thinking Jetta might come in for Masten but yes the JS concrrns are there.
That being said, Butters for Rotham looks like the trade. No way Butters survives after his performance today. (Although that’s what we said about Gibbons)
Barley watched the game, but Butters has been excellent the previous 3 weeks. Surprisingly the Port rookies have been really important for them in the first 3 weeks. They won't drop him over 1 where he struggled a bit
He didn’t just “struggle a bitâ€. He was far and away the worst player on the pitch.
He gave away 2-3 really poor free kicks inside attacking 50 in the last quarter that really hurt the team as well
Well i might look at clark>hore and butters to a mid premo. Would love to get bont or macrae
Burgess
Gibbons
Setterfield
Petrucelle
Definitely dumping 2 of these spuds this week
Gibbons looked alright. Was a little unlucky and hit the post twice. Setters is a butcher at the minute. Much better than last week getting to the contest. Burgess looks off it at the minute. They swung him around and he is pretty bad. Can't comment on Petrucelle since I haven't watched him enough.
Balta is Relton Roberts bad.
I just mentioned those 4 because they are the 4 I have that are candidates to go
All other rookies still have cash to make and are scoring well
A beautifully timed ton by Wilkie and Scrim today is really going to inject their cash rise now so stoked about that
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2019, 05:35:03 PM
I just mentioned those 4 because they are the 4 I have that are candidates to go
All other rookies still have cash to make and are scoring well
A beautifully timed ton by Wilkie and Scrim today is really going to inject their cash rise now so stoked about that
Wouldn't be so quick RD. Agree that they all look average at the moment but Wilkie's scores prior to this week would have seen him also on that list had he got another 50.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is you have no idea which rookies might ton up next week. Fritsch was sitting on a 50 odd average after round 4 last year, many made the mistake of trading him out round 5. He averaged 101 up to his bye.
Worth keeping in mind as most rookies are still below 200k. I think Setters and Gibbons definitely have a bit of cash to generate
Quote from: Locinator on April 14, 2019, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2019, 05:35:03 PM
I just mentioned those 4 because they are the 4 I have that are candidates to go
All other rookies still have cash to make and are scoring well
A beautifully timed ton by Wilkie and Scrim today is really going to inject their cash rise now so stoked about that
Wouldn't be so quick RD. Agree that they all look average at the moment but Wilkie's scores prior to this week would have seen him also on that list had he got another 50.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is you have no idea which rookies might ton up next week. Fritsch was sitting on a 50 odd average after round 4 last year, many made the mistake of trading him out round 5. He averaged 101 up to his bye.
Worth keeping in mind as most rookies are still below 200k. I think Setters and Gibbons definitely have a bit of cash to generate
Well when Stack, Clarke, Hore and Rotham are all on the bubble this week - I'm not holding the super spud rookies - need to grab 2 fresh cows
I get your point, and for that reason I might hold Setters just because the position he plays
Burgess and Gibbons are deadweights
Rotham keep his spot
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2019, 06:13:19 PM
Quote from: Locinator on April 14, 2019, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2019, 05:35:03 PM
I just mentioned those 4 because they are the 4 I have that are candidates to go
All other rookies still have cash to make and are scoring well
A beautifully timed ton by Wilkie and Scrim today is really going to inject their cash rise now so stoked about that
Wouldn't be so quick RD. Agree that they all look average at the moment but Wilkie's scores prior to this week would have seen him also on that list had he got another 50.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is you have no idea which rookies might ton up next week. Fritsch was sitting on a 50 odd average after round 4 last year, many made the mistake of trading him out round 5. He averaged 101 up to his bye.
Worth keeping in mind as most rookies are still below 200k. I think Setters and Gibbons definitely have a bit of cash to generate
Well when Stack, Clarke, Hore and Rotham are all on the bubble this week - I'm not holding the super spud rookies - need to grab 2 fresh cows
I get your point, and for that reason I might hold Setters just because the position he plays
Burgess and Gibbons are deadweights
Would love to get fresh cows, but none of them are forwards (which is where Setterfield & Burgess are stuck in my side).
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 14, 2019, 06:37:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2019, 06:13:19 PM
Quote from: Locinator on April 14, 2019, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2019, 05:35:03 PM
I just mentioned those 4 because they are the 4 I have that are candidates to go
All other rookies still have cash to make and are scoring well
A beautifully timed ton by Wilkie and Scrim today is really going to inject their cash rise now so stoked about that
Wouldn't be so quick RD. Agree that they all look average at the moment but Wilkie's scores prior to this week would have seen him also on that list had he got another 50.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is you have no idea which rookies might ton up next week. Fritsch was sitting on a 50 odd average after round 4 last year, many made the mistake of trading him out round 5. He averaged 101 up to his bye.
Worth keeping in mind as most rookies are still below 200k. I think Setters and Gibbons definitely have a bit of cash to generate
Well when Stack, Clarke, Hore and Rotham are all on the bubble this week - I'm not holding the super spud rookies - need to grab 2 fresh cows
I get your point, and for that reason I might hold Setters just because the position he plays
Burgess and Gibbons are deadweights
Would love to get fresh cows, but none of them are forwards (which is where Setterfield & Burgess are stuck in my side).
I’ve got both Moore and Rozee stuck down back, so one of those definitely comes up forward. Parker might need to go now as well. Stalled completely.
Yeh I'm thinking fwd rookie out, Moore fwd at this stage
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2019, 06:13:19 PM
Quote from: Locinator on April 14, 2019, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2019, 05:35:03 PM
I just mentioned those 4 because they are the 4 I have that are candidates to go
All other rookies still have cash to make and are scoring well
A beautifully timed ton by Wilkie and Scrim today is really going to inject their cash rise now so stoked about that
Wouldn't be so quick RD. Agree that they all look average at the moment but Wilkie's scores prior to this week would have seen him also on that list had he got another 50.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is you have no idea which rookies might ton up next week. Fritsch was sitting on a 50 odd average after round 4 last year, many made the mistake of trading him out round 5. He averaged 101 up to his bye.
Worth keeping in mind as most rookies are still below 200k. I think Setters and Gibbons definitely have a bit of cash to generate
Well when Stack, Clarke, Hore and Rotham are all on the bubble this week - I'm not holding the super spud rookies - need to grab 2 fresh cows
I get your point, and for that reason I might hold Setters just because the position he plays
Burgess and Gibbons are deadweights
Totally agree with your points, i was just giving a caution.
Here are mine that may cause concern with the B/E
Burgess B/E 27
Butters B/E 48
Gibbons B/e 16
Scott B/e 24
Setterfield B/e 22
Parker B/e 46
Petrucelle B/E 15
Butters to Stack obviously one and then depending on teams one of Burgess or Parker. Can afford to carry a few on bench as slow burn.
Had earmarked my spare cash for Lloyd but the rookie situation in the forward line would appear to be more pressing. Think I'll also pass on Stack, fingers crossed Rotham is named because he's the guy I want. Next week Constable to Ross on the cards.
Quote from: Ringo on April 14, 2019, 07:53:20 PM
Here are mine that may cause concern with the B/E
Burgess B/E 27
Butters B/E 48
Gibbons B/e 16
Scott B/e 24
Setterfield B/e 22
Parker B/e 46
Petrucelle B/E 15
Butters to Stack obviously one and then depending on teams one of Burgess or Parker. Can afford to carry a few on bench as slow burn.
Why is trading Butters obvious? Been good until this game. He's the last one I'd be trading from that list tbh haha
So looking at the BE's I think Zac Clarke might be a pass
Won't make much cash, and was always a short term play as I'd expect him to be dropped once McKernan returns, or even earlier so the R3 cover doesn't mean much at all to me
O'Brien on the other hand is on track to increase by 120k over the next two games, but we need to get an update on Sauce and how much longer he will be out. If there was some sort of assurance that O"Brien would play the next 2 matches then he'd be worth the quick in and out cash grab possibly
Like I said earlier, Rotham looks very comfortable at the level and has slotted extremely well into our system, but he will likely make way for Jetta. I would only pick Rotham if he will be your D8 as I expect him to be in and out so could take a bit of time to moo. For those without Hore, he might be the better choice
Stack should be a nice cash cow, but I only have Scott, Atkins and Gibbons as options - Gibbons is the clear one to dump, but he's only 148k so I feel like using a trade and only profiting 46k is really poor. Atkins at 179k might be worth it?
Just on Stack, I know he has come back a very long way in terms of fitness so I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a rest shortly. Rotham if he retains his spot can sit at D7 for now. Already have Hore so no dramas there.
As for Atkins/Gibbons/Scott, still think they have cash to make so will let them moo a few more weeks.
My other trade will be Drew to Boak, simply have to get some of these spuds off the field.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2019, 07:57:18 PM
So looking at the BE's I think Zac Clarke might be a pass
Won't make much cash, and was always a short term play as I'd expect him to be dropped once McKernan returns, or even earlier so the R3 cover doesn't mean much at all to me
O'Brien on the other hand is on track to increase by 120k over the next two games, but we need to get an update on Sauce and how much longer he will be out. If there was some sort of assurance that O"Brien would play the next 2 matches then he'd be worth the quick in and out cash grab possibly
Like I said earlier, Rotham looks very comfortable at the level and has slotted extremely well into our system, but he will likely make way for Jetta. I would only pick Rotham if he will be your D8 as I expect him to be in and out so could take a bit of time to moo. For those without Hore, he might be the better choice
Stack should be a nice cash cow, but I only have Scott, Atkins and Gibbons as options - Gibbons is the clear one to dump, but he's only 148k so I feel like using a trade and only profiting 46k is really poor. Atkins at 179k might be worth it?
Jacobs was close to playing last week so he'll most likely be back this week, which makes it an easy decision on whether to trade in O'Brien or not as he'll either be named alongside Jacobs which suggests they'll stick with him for at least the time being or do a straight swap of ruckman in which case he's obviously a no.
I'm able to trade out Burgess > Stack via Duursma and although it's only 70k profit, I still think it's worth the trade. Burgess looks unlikely to make his BE of 29 this week, so there's no point holding off on ditching him.
Not sure what my other trade will be though, as I'll only have 184k.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 14, 2019, 07:57:18 PM
So looking at the BE's I think Zac Clarke might be a pass
Won't make much cash, and was always a short term play as I'd expect him to be dropped once McKernan returns, or even earlier so the R3 cover doesn't mean much at all to me
O'Brien on the other hand is on track to increase by 120k over the next two games, but we need to get an update on Sauce and how much longer he will be out. If there was some sort of assurance that O"Brien would play the next 2 matches then he'd be worth the quick in and out cash grab possibly
Like I said earlier, Rotham looks very comfortable at the level and has slotted extremely well into our system, but he will likely make way for Jetta. I would only pick Rotham if he will be your D8 as I expect him to be in and out so could take a bit of time to moo. For those without Hore, he might be the better choice
Stack should be a nice cash cow, but I only have Scott, Atkins and Gibbons as options - Gibbons is the clear one to dump, but he's only 148k so I feel like using a trade and only profiting 46k is really poor. Atkins at 179k might be worth it?
Jacobs was close to playing last week so he'll most likely be back this week, which makes it an easy decision on whether to trade in O'Brien or not as he'll either be named alongside Jacobs which suggests they'll stick with him for at least the time being or do a straight swap of ruckman in which case he's obviously a no.
I'm able to trade out Burgess > Stack via Duursma and although it's only 70k profit, I still think it's worth the trade. Burgess looks unlikely to make his BE of 29 this week, so there's no point holding off on ditching him.
Not sure what my other trade will be though, as I'll only have 184k.
Yeah burgess needs to go but i cant justify making very little cash maybe later for me
Something that may be up for consideration with the Richmond rookies - Stack & Ross as well as Hore perhaps, is that Richmond and Melbourne play this Saturday, followed by a match 4 days later on Wednesday night.
I would've thought rookies, especially someone like Stack who has had fitness issues in the past, may find it difficult to back up for a second game 4 days later?
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 15, 2019, 12:55:54 PM
Something that may be up for consideration with the Richmond rookies - Stack & Ross as well as Hore perhaps, is that Richmond and Melbourne play this Saturday, followed by a match 4 days later on Wednesday night.
I would've thought rookies, especially someone like Stack who has had fitness issues in the past, may find it difficult to back up for a second game 4 days later?
Very good point. Would be good to pay attention to whether the likes of Cotchin/Houli are fit or not. If it's likely they'll be ok for the ANZAC game, it'd make sense to swap Stack and Ross out for a rest. And if that happens, it might be hard for them to get back in...
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Quote from: Rusty00 on April 15, 2019, 12:55:54 PM
Something that may be up for consideration with the Richmond rookies - Stack & Ross as well as Hore perhaps, is that Richmond and Melbourne play this Saturday, followed by a match 4 days later on Wednesday night.
I would've thought rookies, especially someone like Stack who has had fitness issues in the past, may find it difficult to back up for a second game 4 days later?
Very good point. Would be good to pay attention to whether the likes of Cotchin/Houli are fit or not. If it's likely they'll be ok for the ANZAC game, it'd make sense to swap Stack and Ross out for a rest. And if that happens, it might be hard for them to get back in...
I'd be surprised if Ross was rested, he's the only player on the list who is plug & play in that midfield role. Cotch has done a hammie, 3-4 weeks is the norm. Pretty comfortable that Ross will get at least 2 price rises & if he maintains his scoring should make at least 130k.
think Hately will come in for Ward this week was in the mix last week
Setterfield rubbed out for 2 wow.
How the hell did he get 2 weeks for that?
Sydney Stack JS? Seems a bit shaky after the weekend, Houli returning an issue?
Quote from: Colty on April 15, 2019, 06:20:24 PM
Sydney Stack JS? Seems a bit shaky after the weekend, Houli returning an issue?
I would think he'll be ok. Still played well and Dimma usually rewards the kids playing well. Remember, we had Houli and Short in the same team not that long ago!
Quote from: Colty on April 15, 2019, 06:20:24 PM
Sydney Stack JS? Seems a bit shaky after the weekend, Houli returning an issue?
Had a few turnovers but over the course of two weeks, his mental ability to bounce back from mistakes is really good for a rookie. I don’t think there is any concern his JS.
Whats shai boltons JS like? 75 points on the weekend priced at 145K. Could be a handy fwd downgrade
Quote from: sammy123 on April 16, 2019, 01:04:27 PM
Whats shai boltons JS like? 75 points on the weekend priced at 145K. Could be a handy fwd downgrade
Looked really good on the weekend but fear he could be another Parker like player. Have a good weekend and then a lot of subpar rookie scores.
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Whats shai boltons JS like? 75 points on the weekend priced at 145K. Could be a handy fwd downgrade
Looked really good on the weekend but fear he could be another Parker like player. Have a good weekend and then a lot of subpar rookie scores.
Think most of the forward rookies will be inconsistent, ok if they are benched though.
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Quote from: sammy123 on April 16, 2019, 01:04:27 PM
Whats shai boltons JS like? 75 points on the weekend priced at 145K. Could be a handy fwd downgrade
Looked really good on the weekend but fear he could be another Parker like player. Have a good weekend and then a lot of subpar rookie scores.
Think most of the forward rookies will be inconsistent, ok if they are benched though.
You make a fair point there.
I’m trying to upgrade this line as much as possible.
Quote from: sammy123 on April 16, 2019, 01:04:27 PM
Whats shai boltons JS like? 75 points on the weekend priced at 145K. Could be a handy fwd downgrade
Richmond's optimal lineup for the next 2 months (no Short/Rance) will be:
B: Broad, Astbury, Grimes
HB: Vlastuin, ____, Edwards
C: McIntosh, Lambert, Ellis
HF: Rioli, Caddy, Higgins
F: Riewoldt, Lynch, ____
Foll: Nankervis, Martin, Cotchin
Bench: Prestia, Houli, ___, ___
Players in discussion: Butler, Castagna, Bolton, Baker, Graham, Garthwaite, Balta, Stack, Ross
- With Ellis playing wing rather than half back, it doesn't allow Higgins/Rioli to rotate through the midfield as much, which only allows 2 of the 4 other small forwards to be picked. Personally, I think
Bolton deserves an extended period of opportunity in the team as what Butler and Castagna got in 2017 because he is a much better player than both of them. Not sure who I prefer out of the other 3 though, but that's irrelevant.
- Grimes isn't big enough to play on the 2nd tall most weeks, he plays on guys like Gray/Betts/De Goey, so Richmond will need to play either Garthwaite or
Balta as a 2nd key defender to help Astbury.
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Ross, Graham and Prestia are all very similar players, and I don't think we can afford to have all 3 in the team when Cotchin/Martin return. Can't see Prestia getting dropped, however Graham has been terrible lately, his turnovers directly resulted in 2 goals vs Giants and didn't see him vs Port. So Ross potentially replaces Graham when Cotchin returns in 2 weeks.
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Stack won't keep his spot for long with Houli returning. This week Menadue and Castagna (hopefully) will be dropped for Houli and Martin, but unless Hardwick puts his faith in Balta to play a lockdown role on Sam Reid (with Astbury on Buddy), Garthwaite is going to be brought in for someone. Stack is probably the unlucky one.
Edit: Just realised that perhaps if Garthwaite is brought in, Balta could be the one to go, which saves Stack. Anyway we'll see come Thursday night.
they reckon Tuohy in for clark or oconner
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 16, 2019, 02:56:52 PM
they reckon Tuohy in for clark or oconner
Hoping Rotham gets named but if not then I'll have to make plans for Clark. Might have to hold on Boak this week & grab Lloyd next week. Not the worst scenario, the sooner I nail down Lloyd the better.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 16, 2019, 02:56:52 PM
they reckon Tuohy in for clark or oconner
Who's they?
I reckon Scott will reward the kids and let them experience Easter Monday
O'Connor to go is my pick
Parker in doubt to play this week
Yikes
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 16, 2019, 04:21:43 PM
Parker in doubt to play this week
Yikes
Hope I don't have to field Balta, yikes!
Quote from: Bully on April 16, 2019, 04:25:09 PM
Hope I don't have to field Balta Petrucelle, yikes!
Not keen on Rotham, afraid he'll be dropped and won't come in again until someone gets injured again. Was a late in for Jetta.
Stack also afraid he'll make way for someone til they get injured again. Might make way for Houli.
O'Brien in the rucks looks good too, but afraid he'll make way for Jacobs shortly.
No idea :o
I wonder if Corbett will get named this week?
Quote from: Football Factory on April 16, 2019, 10:05:35 PM
I wonder if Corbett will get named this week?
If he does, Burgess is out. I figured he would be a few weeks away though.
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 16, 2019, 10:34:12 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on April 16, 2019, 10:05:35 PM
I wonder if Corbett will get named this week?
If he does, Burgess is out. I figured he would be a few weeks away though.
Played well on the weekend in the NEAFL I heard somewhere
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 16, 2019, 10:49:08 PM
Played well on the weekend in the NEAFL I heard somewhere
Was it his first game back? He probably needs a couple to get some run into his legs. And it is the NEAFL. He should be dominating.
Greene
Moore
Burgess
Parker
Scott
Anyone else?
Bines does not count.
Parker has to go whether or not he's named, watched him on the weekend & he really struggled. Think the best guy to keep moving forward would be Drew, the other rookies stink to high heaven.
Will probably pick Stack this week, even though I know he's only good for a couple price rises, but at least the ton is there. Beyond that who knows, my bench looks like Barings before the collapse, desperately need one guy to stand up.
Quote from: Bully on April 16, 2019, 11:17:16 PM
Parker has to go whether or not he's named, watched him on the weekend & he really struggled. Think the best guy to keep moving forward would be Drew, the other rookies stink to high heaven.
Will probably pick Stack this week, even though I know he's only good for a couple price rises, but at least the ton is there. Beyond that who knows, my bench looks like Barings before the collapse, desperately need one guy to stand up.
Yeah I don't think I'll be trading Drew anytime soon - need to get him to F6 which means I need to somehow turn Setters/Parker into a prem forward, but that's not going to happen this week so all I can do is hope the rookies can somehow put up a 60+ score, then hopefully in 2 weeks time I can bring in a prem forward
I'm pretty sure Parker was looking at a decent score before the injury. It will be in his rotation for a couple of weeks but it's probably not panic stations. I'm more likely to trade Scott, move Setters to the bench, Rozee forward and Hore to D8 if I make a move this week.
Just on Stacks job security. I think it's better than some may think. Houli is back in but Short is out for 8 weeks and Markov for about the same so those 2 aren't a threat to take his position.
The 5 locks in Richmonds backline atm are Vlastuin, Grimes, Broad, Houli, Astbury.
Edwards has been playing there the past couple of weeks so it will be interesting to see if the coach keeps him there and stack gets dropped or if they drop a small forward and move Edwards back to the forward line. With Caddy just coming back and Jack to return in a week I suspect it will be the guys like Baker and Bolton that get pushed out before stack
Need some new rookies to start getting games. Hopefully in the next week or so the Hately's Corbett's Hind's and the like get named.
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 16, 2019, 10:54:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 16, 2019, 10:49:08 PM
Played well on the weekend in the NEAFL I heard somewhere
Was it his first game back? He probably needs a couple to get some run into his legs. And it is the NEAFL. He should be dominating.
3 goals and 18 possies is okay for first game back
Looking at Reilly O'Brien with Jacobs not playing again.
He will make 75k with another similar type score. 125k after two games and 150k after 3 games.
The risk is he is dropped if Jacobs comes back. Otherwise it's happy days.
I've got Bines so the DPP comes in handy. The DPP can see him at F8 for a few weeks if O'Brien stays in the team.
Everything may depend on Jacobs. Keep watch on any news about him.
O'Brien could be the rookie to grab this week.
Quote from: enzedder on April 17, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
Looking at Reilly O'Brien with Jacobs not playing again.
He will make 75k with another similar type score. 125k after two games and 150k after 3 games.
The risk is he is dropped if Jacobs comes back. Otherwise it's happy days.
I've got Bines so the DPP comes in handy. The DPP can see him at F8 for a few weeks if O'Brien stays in the team.
Everything may depend on Jacobs. Keep watch on any news about him.
O'Brien could be the rookie to grab this week.
The problem is that there are so many forward rookies potentially out (Setters, Moore, Parker) that we need a trade to cover the donut. Moving Bines forward doesn't do that.
Quote from: enzedder on April 17, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
Looking at Reilly O'Brien with Jacobs not playing again.
He will make 75k with another similar type score. 125k after two games and 150k after 3 games.
The risk is he is dropped if Jacobs comes back. Otherwise it's happy days.
I've got Bines so the DPP comes in handy. The DPP can see him at F8 for a few weeks if O'Brien stays in the team.
Everything may depend on Jacobs. Keep watch on any news about him.
O'Brien could be the rookie to grab this week.
Was looking at him but for me its very risky as it'll mean Bines and Balta on fwd bench.
Quote from: LaHug on April 17, 2019, 02:17:44 PM
Quote from: enzedder on April 17, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
Looking at Reilly O'Brien with Jacobs not playing again.
He will make 75k with another similar type score. 125k after two games and 150k after 3 games.
The risk is he is dropped if Jacobs comes back. Otherwise it's happy days.
I've got Bines so the DPP comes in handy. The DPP can see him at F8 for a few weeks if O'Brien stays in the team.
Everything may depend on Jacobs. Keep watch on any news about him.
O'Brien could be the rookie to grab this week.
The problem is that there are so many forward rookies potentially out (Setters, Moore, Parker) that we need a trade to cover the donut. Moving Bines forward doesn't do that.
Totally get that. Named teams may stop me from doing it.
In my case Moore is in defence. Setterfield would be traded out.
Would need two of Drew, Parker and Petruccelle to play with Bines at F8.
Quote from: tommy10 on April 17, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
Was looking at him but for me its very risky as it'll mean Bines and Balta on fwd bench.
big question is why do you still have Balta??
Sam Jacobs potentially out for 4-8 weeks with a meniscus issue if it needs surgery
Crows will decide tomorrow if he requires surgery
What does this mean for O'Brien?
I don't have the handy R3/F8 swingman so I would be burning two trades essentially
We think he'll make enough money to make those trades worth it?
Quote from: Brikett on April 17, 2019, 04:01:38 PM
Sam Jacobs potentially out for 4-8 weeks with a meniscus issue if it needs surgery
Crows will decide tomorrow if he requires surgery
What does this mean for O'Brien?
I don't have the handy R3/F8 swingman so I would be burning two trades essentially
We think he'll make enough money to make those trades worth it?
I'm on, really good bet in my opinion & the pick of the rookies this week.
Quote from: Keeper27 on April 17, 2019, 03:44:21 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on April 17, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
Was looking at him but for me its very risky as it'll mean Bines and Balta on fwd bench.
big question is why do you still have Balta??
Already started with Parker with Drew and Setters on field. No other fwd rookies worth trading to. So stuck with him for the moment. He can sit there as F8 until a fwd rookie worth getting.
Quote from: LaHug on April 17, 2019, 02:17:44 PM
Quote from: enzedder on April 17, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
Looking at Reilly O'Brien with Jacobs not playing again.
He will make 75k with another similar type score. 125k after two games and 150k after 3 games.
The risk is he is dropped if Jacobs comes back. Otherwise it's happy days.
I've got Bines so the DPP comes in handy. The DPP can see him at F8 for a few weeks if O'Brien stays in the team.
Everything may depend on Jacobs. Keep watch on any news about him.
O'Brien could be the rookie to grab this week.
The problem is that there are so many forward rookies potentially out (Setters, Moore, Parker) that we need a trade to cover the donut. Moving Bines forward doesn't do that.
But perfect if your running Lycett at R2 ;)
Gawn to ROB isnt completely crazy just saying
Gawn Atkins
v
ROB Neale
Gawn Parker
V
ROB Boak + 175k
Gawn Clark
V
ROB LLoyd + 130k
Quote from: Brikett on April 17, 2019, 04:01:38 PM
Sam Jacobs potentially out for 4-8 weeks with a meniscus issue if it needs surgery
Crows will decide tomorrow if he requires surgery
What does this mean for O'Brien?
I don't have the handy R3/F8 swingman so I would be burning two trades essentially
We think he'll make enough money to make those trades worth it?
Hmmmmmm..
Trade a forward rookie, switch Bines forward, O'Brien in ???
Quote from: jfitty on April 17, 2019, 04:21:21 PM
Quote from: Brikett on April 17, 2019, 04:01:38 PM
Sam Jacobs potentially out for 4-8 weeks with a meniscus issue if it needs surgery
Crows will decide tomorrow if he requires surgery
What does this mean for O'Brien?
I don't have the handy R3/F8 swingman so I would be burning two trades essentially
We think he'll make enough money to make those trades worth it?
Hmmmmmm..
Trade a forward rookie, switch Bines forward, O'Brien in ???
it also works but what if you have another bad rookie to go along with bines on the bench.
plus also the other point is in terms of scoring on field
ROB + super premo should smash Gawn + F7 D7 M9 especially with players missing.
Quote from: Holz on April 17, 2019, 04:18:29 PM
Gawn to ROB isnt completely crazy just saying
Gawn Atkins
v
ROB Neale
Gawn Parker
V
ROB Boak + 175k
Gawn Clark
V
ROB LLoyd + 130k
I honestly thought the same Holz but think it's ridiculous to trade a keeper in Gawn.
@SC_Talk Sam Jacobs could potentially be ruled out for 2 months due to knee surgery - would make O'Brien a very relevant #SuperCoach cash cow. Will find out more tomorrow.
Reilly O’Brien watch list to must have potentially in 24 hours
Quote from: _wato on April 17, 2019, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 17, 2019, 04:18:29 PM
Gawn to ROB isnt completely crazy just saying
Gawn Atkins
v
ROB Neale
Gawn Parker
V
ROB Boak + 175k
Gawn Clark
V
ROB LLoyd + 130k
I honestly thought the same Holz but think it's ridiculous to trade a keeper in Gawn.
(http://favoritememes.com/_nw/97/71789698.jpg)
i think i want one of hore or stack anyway. If neither are named then its potentially a good idea
Yeah, think I'll spend the 30k upgrading Alabaskis to O'Brien. Could be long term ruck coverage and decent cash making prospect.
Hah, I've just realised with some DPP magic I could theoretically bring in ROB.
If I want to trade out a FWD: Moore -> FWD, Lockhart -> BAC, Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
If I want to trade out a MID: Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
OR Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Moore -> FWD, Lockhart -> BAC, Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
If I want to trade out a BAC: Lockhart -> BAC, Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
Wow, up to 5 DPP moves - but it is possible for me
Quote from: batt on April 17, 2019, 06:17:28 PM
Hah, I've just realised with some DPP magic I could theoretically bring in ROB.
If I want to trade out a FWD: Moore -> FWD, Lockhart -> BAC, Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
If I want to trade out a MID: Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
OR Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Moore -> FWD, Lockhart -> BAC, Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
If I want to trade out a BAC: Lockhart -> BAC, Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
Wow, up to 5 DPP moves - but it is possible for me
Just go fwd out, bines to fwd and skip these 3 steps?
Quote from: Big Mac on April 17, 2019, 06:23:50 PM
Quote from: batt on April 17, 2019, 06:17:28 PM
Hah, I've just realised with some DPP magic I could theoretically bring in ROB.
If I want to trade out a FWD: Moore -> FWD, Lockhart -> BAC, Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
If I want to trade out a MID: Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
OR Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Moore -> FWD, Lockhart -> BAC, Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
If I want to trade out a BAC: Lockhart -> BAC, Setterfield/Drew -> MID, Bines -> FWD
Wow, up to 5 DPP moves - but it is possible for me
Just go fwd out, bines to fwd and skip these 3 steps?
Yeah haha that too. But I would like to open up the Moore Burgess DPP while I'm at it (both in my backline) Likely what I'm going to do is:
Not trade in ROB.
The $64,000 question is who has the better JS?
Stack or Hore?
Both look like they will make similar amounts of $$$ IF getting games.
Is it worth using a trade on weekly loophole option Sweet to ROB to hopefully make some bench cash (and ruck backup), before inevitably reversing the trade back once ROB is maxed out?
Basically 2 trades for 250-300k profit + backup insurance but lose a loophole optiom
I'm thinking it is at this point but still undecided if I'll do it or not
Edit: I see it's been covered a little already, but let's discuss it more in depth shall we? Lol. Really wish I had Bines over Sweet right now. Could easy swap Balta/Setters out and it wouldn't be as bad with the feeling of knowing I'm only going to get Sweet back in.
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:20:20 AM
Is it worth using a trade on weekly loophole option Sweet to ROB to hopefully make some bench cash (and ruck backup), before inevitably reversing the trade back once ROB is maxed out?
Basically 2 trades for 250-300k profit + backup insurance but lose a loophole optiom
I'm thinking it is at this point but still undecided if I'll do it or not
ROB is a must now that Sauce has had surgery
Every chance you'll have another rookie get dropped and still have someone to use as loophole
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:20:20 AM
Is it worth using a trade on weekly loophole option Sweet to ROB to hopefully make some bench cash (and ruck backup), before inevitably reversing the trade back once ROB is maxed out?
Basically 2 trades for 250-300k profit + backup insurance but lose a loophole optiom
I'm thinking it is at this point but still undecided if I'll do it or not
ROB is a must now that Sauce has had surgery
Every chance you'll have another rookie get dropped and still have someone to use as loophole
Probably more concerned about having to use 2 trades by trading him in, then eventually having to trade him out later, rather than the lack of loophole option.
I have only needed to use 1 trade thus far, so I guess I can afford a bit of a luxury money maker trade?
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:31:23 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:20:20 AM
Is it worth using a trade on weekly loophole option Sweet to ROB to hopefully make some bench cash (and ruck backup), before inevitably reversing the trade back once ROB is maxed out?
Basically 2 trades for 250-300k profit + backup insurance but lose a loophole optiom
I'm thinking it is at this point but still undecided if I'll do it or not
ROB is a must now that Sauce has had surgery
Every chance you'll have another rookie get dropped and still have someone to use as loophole
Probably more concerned about having to use 2 trades by trading him in, then eventually having to trade him out later, rather than the lack of loophole option.
I have only needed to use 1 trade thus far, so I guess I can afford a bit of a luxury money maker trade?
Luxury money maker?
You need to use two trades on every rookie from here - one to bring them in and one to trade them out. That's how this game works and how you make money lol
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:45:09 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:31:23 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:20:20 AM
Is it worth using a trade on weekly loophole option Sweet to ROB to hopefully make some bench cash (and ruck backup), before inevitably reversing the trade back once ROB is maxed out?
Basically 2 trades for 250-300k profit + backup insurance but lose a loophole optiom
I'm thinking it is at this point but still undecided if I'll do it or not
ROB is a must now that Sauce has had surgery
Every chance you'll have another rookie get dropped and still have someone to use as loophole
Probably more concerned about having to use 2 trades by trading him in, then eventually having to trade him out later, rather than the lack of loophole option.
I have only needed to use 1 trade thus far, so I guess I can afford a bit of a luxury money maker trade?
Luxury money maker?
You need to use two trades on every rookie from here - one to bring them in and one to trade them out. That's how this game works and how you make money lol
The concern is more that trade 1 (Sweet to ROB in their example, would be Fort to ROB for me in DT if I do the same) not only doesn't net you any cash, it actually costs cash. That is not the norm.
Quote from: LaHug on April 18, 2019, 07:52:41 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:45:09 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:31:23 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:20:20 AM
Is it worth using a trade on weekly loophole option Sweet to ROB to hopefully make some bench cash (and ruck backup), before inevitably reversing the trade back once ROB is maxed out?
Basically 2 trades for 250-300k profit + backup insurance but lose a loophole optiom
I'm thinking it is at this point but still undecided if I'll do it or not
ROB is a must now that Sauce has had surgery
Every chance you'll have another rookie get dropped and still have someone to use as loophole
Probably more concerned about having to use 2 trades by trading him in, then eventually having to trade him out later, rather than the lack of loophole option.
I have only needed to use 1 trade thus far, so I guess I can afford a bit of a luxury money maker trade?
Luxury money maker?
You need to use two trades on every rookie from here - one to bring them in and one to trade them out. That's how this game works and how you make money lol
The concern is more that trade 1 (Sweet to ROB in their example, would be Fort to ROB for me in DT if I do the same) not only doesn't net you any cash, it actually costs cash. That is not the norm.
Exactly. It’s a trade you could use on sideways a premium that’s about to drop to one going up for example, but everyone would tell you that’s not a great love usually...
For me, I could move Bines forward, but Bines and Balta on the bench gives me the chills. Think I’ll have to leave RoB
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:45:09 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:31:23 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:20:20 AM
Is it worth using a trade on weekly loophole option Sweet to ROB to hopefully make some bench cash (and ruck backup), before inevitably reversing the trade back once ROB is maxed out?
Basically 2 trades for 250-300k profit + backup insurance but lose a loophole optiom
I'm thinking it is at this point but still undecided if I'll do it or not
ROB is a must now that Sauce has had surgery
Every chance you'll have another rookie get dropped and still have someone to use as loophole
Probably more concerned about having to use 2 trades by trading him in, then eventually having to trade him out later, rather than the lack of loophole option.
I have only needed to use 1 trade thus far, so I guess I can afford a bit of a luxury money maker trade?
Luxury money maker?
You need to use two trades on every rookie from here - one to bring them in and one to trade them out. That's how this game works and how you make money lol
Its not like I'm trading out a fat cow to get ROB. I'm trading out a bottom of the barrel ruck who wont play a single game and likely trading that very same player back in once ROB has done his duty...
I'm only making money 1 way.
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 08:05:27 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:45:09 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:31:23 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:20:20 AM
Is it worth using a trade on weekly loophole option Sweet to ROB to hopefully make some bench cash (and ruck backup), before inevitably reversing the trade back once ROB is maxed out?
Basically 2 trades for 250-300k profit + backup insurance but lose a loophole optiom
I'm thinking it is at this point but still undecided if I'll do it or not
ROB is a must now that Sauce has had surgery
Every chance you'll have another rookie get dropped and still have someone to use as loophole
Probably more concerned about having to use 2 trades by trading him in, then eventually having to trade him out later, rather than the lack of loophole option.
I have only needed to use 1 trade thus far, so I guess I can afford a bit of a luxury money maker trade?
Luxury money maker?
You need to use two trades on every rookie from here - one to bring them in and one to trade them out. That's how this game works and how you make money lol
Its not like I'm trading out a fat cow to get ROB. I'm trading out a bottom of the barrel ruck who wont play a single game and likely trading that very same player back in once ROB has done his duty...
I'm only making money 1 way.
I would pass if I didn’t have Bines
Quote from: tkringle on April 18, 2019, 08:46:35 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 08:05:27 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:45:09 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:31:23 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:20:20 AM
Is it worth using a trade on weekly loophole option Sweet to ROB to hopefully make some bench cash (and ruck backup), before inevitably reversing the trade back once ROB is maxed out?
Basically 2 trades for 250-300k profit + backup insurance but lose a loophole optiom
I'm thinking it is at this point but still undecided if I'll do it or not
ROB is a must now that Sauce has had surgery
Every chance you'll have another rookie get dropped and still have someone to use as loophole
Probably more concerned about having to use 2 trades by trading him in, then eventually having to trade him out later, rather than the lack of loophole option.
I have only needed to use 1 trade thus far, so I guess I can afford a bit of a luxury money maker trade?
Luxury money maker?
You need to use two trades on every rookie from here - one to bring them in and one to trade them out. That's how this game works and how you make money lol
Its not like I'm trading out a fat cow to get ROB. I'm trading out a bottom of the barrel ruck who wont play a single game and likely trading that very same player back in once ROB has done his duty...
I'm only making money 1 way.
I would pass if I didn’t have Bines
Even with Bines... geez I’m not sure, I guess if you can look at it from the point of view that there will be other rookies to come and making way for ROB is not a necessity?
Quote from: tkringle on April 18, 2019, 08:46:35 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 08:05:27 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:45:09 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:31:23 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 07:20:20 AM
Is it worth using a trade on weekly loophole option Sweet to ROB to hopefully make some bench cash (and ruck backup), before inevitably reversing the trade back once ROB is maxed out?
Basically 2 trades for 250-300k profit + backup insurance but lose a loophole optiom
I'm thinking it is at this point but still undecided if I'll do it or not
ROB is a must now that Sauce has had surgery
Every chance you'll have another rookie get dropped and still have someone to use as loophole
Probably more concerned about having to use 2 trades by trading him in, then eventually having to trade him out later, rather than the lack of loophole option.
I have only needed to use 1 trade thus far, so I guess I can afford a bit of a luxury money maker trade?
Luxury money maker?
You need to use two trades on every rookie from here - one to bring them in and one to trade them out. That's how this game works and how you make money lol
Its not like I'm trading out a fat cow to get ROB. I'm trading out a bottom of the barrel ruck who wont play a single game and likely trading that very same player back in once ROB has done his duty...
I'm only making money 1 way.
I would pass if I didn’t have Bines
Same
Bines’ DPP is very handy.
Sits at F8. Happy with my other 7 forwards at present. Should have playing rookies who can loophole at F5-7.
Trading out cashed up rookies (sort of) in Setterfield and Butters.... made a smallish profit.
When Reilly O’Brien has cashed up I can swing Bines back to F3 and get either a premium fwd or F/R such as Westhoff
If i get ROB and Heeney doesnt play id have to field balta :-[
If I get ROB and Heeney doesn't play, I get a donut. If I go my other trade plans, it's Burgess instead... who might be dropped anyway and is probably only 40 points so I think it's worth the risk.
Quote from: LaHug on April 18, 2019, 07:52:41 AM
The concern is more that trade 1 (Sweet to ROB in their example, would be Fort to ROB for me in DT if I do the same) not only doesn't net you any cash, it actually costs cash. That is not the norm.
Quote from: js19 on April 18, 2019, 08:02:31 AM
Exactly. It’s a trade you could use on sideways a premium that’s about to drop to one going up for example, but everyone would tell you that’s not a great love usually...
For me, I could move Bines forward, but Bines and Balta on the bench gives me the chills. Think I’ll have to leave RoB
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 18, 2019, 08:05:27 AM
Its not like I'm trading out a fat cow to get ROB. I'm trading out a bottom of the barrel ruck who wont play a single game and likely trading that very same player back in once ROB has done his duty...
I'm only making money 1 way.
Consider it a rookie correction trade. If you had to do this at Round 2 it's just a correction, but at Round 4 it's so much different?
Not only will ROB make 150k+, he also provides valuable ruck cover in the meantime. What if one of your rucks misses a game coming up?
Not to mention most of the fwd rookies have been pretty crap in terms of cash generation, so I don't think we can pass up ROB for everything he offers
This is the week to grab 2 rookies, because besides Ross next week (Possibly Hately/Hind) there isn't much coming through, so grab the 2 best cows this week. A lot of people grabbing Stack are likely trading Scott or Gibbons to him which is only giving them 45-60k anyway, and ROB should make up the difference over Stack in terms of future gains so it's all relative - grab the two best cows this week of which ROB appears to be #1 on the list, then flip a coin on Hore/Stack depending on your sides needs
Quote from: LaHug on April 18, 2019, 09:37:26 AM
If I get ROB and Heeney doesn't play, I get a donut. If I go my other trade plans, it's Burgess instead... who might be dropped anyway and is probably only 40 points so I think it's worth the risk.
All those people that kept Heeney. Hahaha
Quote from: James Pies on April 18, 2019, 09:26:43 AM
If i get ROB and Heeney doesnt play id have to field balta :-[
Yeah I've been worried about this as well, so much so I had a dream last night that Balta scored 7 hahaha
Could pick up ROB but means I have to grab a forward 460k or less so best options are Buddy Darling Lynch Marshall TMac.
If I grab Stack I have 496k so can pick up pretty much any forward I want apart from Boak and Kelly. So really comes down to picking a worse premium for the rest of the year just to fit ROB or go Stack and get a much better option.
Quote from: Gigantor on April 18, 2019, 10:01:09 AM
Quote from: James Pies on April 18, 2019, 09:26:43 AM
If i get ROB and Heeney doesnt play id have to field balta :-[
Yeah I've been worried about this as well, so much so I had a dream last night that Balta scored 7 hahaha
6 more than I would have expected ;D
Quote from: _wato on April 18, 2019, 10:04:05 AM
Could pick up ROB but means I have to grab a forward 460k or less so best options are Buddy Darling Lynch Marshall TMac.
If I grab Stack I have 496k so can pick up pretty much any forward I want apart from Boak and Kelly. So really comes down to picking a worse premium for the rest of the year just to fit ROB or go Stack and get a much better option.
You can't grab both ROB and Stack, build the warchest than grab a prem forward next week? Or are you copping donuts unless you don't bring in a forward this week?
Quote from: _wato on April 18, 2019, 10:04:05 AM
Could pick up ROB but means I have to grab a forward 460k or less so best options are Buddy Darling Lynch Marshall TMac.
If I grab Stack I have 496k so can pick up pretty much any forward I want apart from Boak and Kelly. So really comes down to picking a worse premium for the rest of the year just to fit ROB or go Stack and get a much better option.
Stack and a much better person would be the obvious option surely?
Quote from: _wato on April 18, 2019, 10:04:05 AM
Could pick up ROB but means I have to grab a forward 460k or less so best options are Buddy Darling Lynch Marshall TMac.
If I grab Stack I have 496k so can pick up pretty much any forward I want apart from Boak and Kelly. So really comes down to picking a worse premium for the rest of the year just to fit ROB or go Stack and get a much better option.
Marshall still cheap as chips & with a low BE, reckon that's as solid as any move to be honest.
Yeah RD means fielding a donut. Would mean I have Parker Setters and Bines all forward. Still have Toby Greene lol
I agree @MS but will hurt seeing ROB be an awesome cash cow. Not so keen on Marshall as others are. Reckon he will get pantsed by Gawn, 80 average over the next 6 weeks at best
Is Parker confirmed out? If so, I'm in a world of hurt...
Quote from: LaHug on April 18, 2019, 10:34:47 AM
Is Parker confirmed out? If so, I'm in a world of hurt...
Not confirmed but looking more likely than not.
Quote from: Money Shot on April 18, 2019, 10:35:25 AM
Quote from: LaHug on April 18, 2019, 10:34:47 AM
Is Parker confirmed out? If so, I'm in a world of hurt...
Not confirmed but looking more likely than not.
I thought he only got a corkie?
So plan for me will be to hold onto Bines as long as possible & then switch O'Brien to Lycett/Hoff when the time is right. Reckon Hoff will bounce back soon, should be 350k in a few weeks which is worth a punt.
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2019, 10:47:38 AM
So plan for me will be to hold onto Bines as long as possible & then switch O'Brien to Lycett/Hoff when the time is right. Reckon Hoff will bounce back soon, should be 350k in a few weeks which is worth a punt.
This.
Quote from: enzedder on April 18, 2019, 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2019, 10:47:38 AM
So plan for me will be to hold onto Bines as long as possible & then switch O'Brien to Lycett/Hoff when the time is right. Reckon Hoff will bounce back soon, should be 350k in a few weeks which is worth a punt.
This.
does sound like a good plan dont really want to be trading Bines back in.
just got hope the fwd carnage isnt too bad
Quote from: Holz on April 18, 2019, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: enzedder on April 18, 2019, 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2019, 10:47:38 AM
So plan for me will be to hold onto Bines as long as possible & then switch O'Brien to Lycett/Hoff when the time is right. Reckon Hoff will bounce back soon, should be 350k in a few weeks which is worth a punt.
This.
does sound like a good plan dont really want to be trading Bines back in.
just got hope the fwd carnage isnt too bad
Maybe your circumstances are different or I misunderstood.
Bines never has to be traded out using DPP. Moves to fwds. Trade out others. Trade out cashed up ROB. Move Bines back.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 09:39:48 AM
This is the week to grab 2 rookies, because besides Ross next week (Possibly Hately/Hind) there isn't much coming through, so grab the 2 best cows this week. A lot of people grabbing Stack are likely trading Scott or Gibbons to him which is only giving them 45-60k anyway, and ROB should make up the difference over Stack in terms of future gains so it's all relative - grab the two best cows this week of which ROB appears to be #1 on the list, then flip a coin on Hore/Stack depending on your sides needs
How do you know there isn't much coming through? This week's teams haven't even come out yet!
This time last week no-one knew that Rotham, Hore and even ROB would pop up as decent downgrade options, so who is to say more rookies won't pop up out of nowhere this weekend?
Ross looks like a great downgrade option next week and there will likely be another solid rookie downgrade option the week after.
It definitely isn't an essential "double downgrade" week for mine and there is no reason people shouldn't prioritise bringing in Rockliff, Marshall, Mumford types instead before they shoot up in price.
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 18, 2019, 11:02:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 09:39:48 AM
This is the week to grab 2 rookies, because besides Ross next week (Possibly Hately/Hind) there isn't much coming through, so grab the 2 best cows this week. A lot of people grabbing Stack are likely trading Scott or Gibbons to him which is only giving them 45-60k anyway, and ROB should make up the difference over Stack in terms of future gains so it's all relative - grab the two best cows this week of which ROB appears to be #1 on the list, then flip a coin on Hore/Stack depending on your sides needs
How do you know there isn't much coming through? This week's teams haven't even come out yet!
This time last week no-one knew that Rotham, Hore and even ROB would pop up as decent downgrade options, so who is to say more rookies won't pop up out of nowhere this weekend?
Ross looks like a great downgrade option next week and there will likely be another solid rookie downgrade option the week after.
It definitely isn't an essential "double downgrade" week for mine and there is no reason people shouldn't prioritise bringing in Rockliff, Marshall, Mumford types instead before they shoot up in price.
Rocky still with a moderate BE (86) so can wait, Marshall a good option though, you're pretty much getting a 90 average for 400k.
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 18, 2019, 11:02:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 09:39:48 AM
This is the week to grab 2 rookies, because besides Ross next week (Possibly Hately/Hind) there isn't much coming through, so grab the 2 best cows this week. A lot of people grabbing Stack are likely trading Scott or Gibbons to him which is only giving them 45-60k anyway, and ROB should make up the difference over Stack in terms of future gains so it's all relative - grab the two best cows this week of which ROB appears to be #1 on the list, then flip a coin on Hore/Stack depending on your sides needs
How do you know there isn't much coming through? This week's teams haven't even come out yet!
This time last week no-one knew that Rotham, Hore and even ROB would pop up as decent downgrade options, so who is to say more rookies won't pop up out of nowhere this weekend?
Ross looks like a great downgrade option next week and there will likely be another solid rookie downgrade option the week after.
It definitely isn't an essential "double downgrade" week for mine and there is no reason people shouldn't prioritise bringing in Rockliff, Marshall, Mumford types instead before they shoot up in price.
You go your way and I'll go mine I guess, but besides possibly Hately and Hind coming through as mid options I can't see any def or fwd rookie coming through
that I would actually wantIf you want to jump on the next Schultz, McKay, Burgess etc, be my guest :P
Nah, in all seriousness nobody knows of course, but we have to make educated guesses, and I think the rookies to chose from this week will be as good as we get for a while (excluding mids)
Shai Bolton worth a look if he goes 60+ this week, will be looking to double down next week.
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2019, 11:24:01 AM
Shai Bolton worth a look if he goes 60+ this week, will be looking to double down next week.
Looks like a Petruccelle type to me
Once Richmond start getting players back, I wouldn't expect much in terms of scoring, and always a chance of getting dropped
Fine for F8 I guess and a cash grab, but I'd rather the guys from this week instead. Each to their own
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2019, 11:19:31 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 18, 2019, 11:02:29 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 09:39:48 AM
This is the week to grab 2 rookies, because besides Ross next week (Possibly Hately/Hind) there isn't much coming through, so grab the 2 best cows this week. A lot of people grabbing Stack are likely trading Scott or Gibbons to him which is only giving them 45-60k anyway, and ROB should make up the difference over Stack in terms of future gains so it's all relative - grab the two best cows this week of which ROB appears to be #1 on the list, then flip a coin on Hore/Stack depending on your sides needs
How do you know there isn't much coming through? This week's teams haven't even come out yet!
This time last week no-one knew that Rotham, Hore and even ROB would pop up as decent downgrade options, so who is to say more rookies won't pop up out of nowhere this weekend?
Ross looks like a great downgrade option next week and there will likely be another solid rookie downgrade option the week after.
It definitely isn't an essential "double downgrade" week for mine and there is no reason people shouldn't prioritise bringing in Rockliff, Marshall, Mumford types instead before they shoot up in price.
Rocky still with a moderate BE (86) so can wait, Marshall a good option though, you're pretty much getting a 90 average for 400k.
Yeah true, can probably wait with Rocky and just hope he doesn't throw up another 140. Anyway, my main point is a double downgrade is far from a must. Premiums like Boak (BE 58) & Whitfield (BE 65) looking like excellent targets this week for those who don't have them.
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 18, 2019, 11:27:39 AM
Yeah true, can probably wait with Rocky and just hope he doesn't throw up another 140. Anyway, my main point is a double downgrade is far from a must. Premiums like Boak (BE 58) & Whitfield (BE 65) looking like excellent Top 6 targets this week for those who don't have them.
The only way anyone can get them though is by sideways trading another prem to them
Surely you shouldn't be doing that at this stage?
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2019, 11:24:01 AM
Shai Bolton worth a look if he goes 60+ this week, will be looking to double down next week.
Looks like a Petruccelle type to me
Once Richmond start getting players back, I wouldn't expect much in terms of scoring, and always a chance of getting dropped
Fine for F8 I guess and a cash grab, but I'd rather the guys from this week instead. Each to their own
In my situation he could the the get of of jail card with Balta, last chance for Noah to show some form.
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2019, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2019, 11:24:01 AM
Shai Bolton worth a look if he goes 60+ this week, will be looking to double down next week.
Looks like a Petruccelle type to me
Once Richmond start getting players back, I wouldn't expect much in terms of scoring, and always a chance of getting dropped
Fine for F8 I guess and a cash grab, but I'd rather the guys from this week instead. Each to their own
In my situation he could the the get of of jail card with Balta, last chance for Noah to show some form.
Well yeah, if you've got Balta anyone else is an improvement
Stocker and Schumacher are two for Carlton who should debut in the coming weeks.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 11:28:42 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 18, 2019, 11:27:39 AM
Yeah true, can probably wait with Rocky and just hope he doesn't throw up another 140. Anyway, my main point is a double downgrade is far from a must. Premiums like Boak (BE 58) & Whitfield (BE 65) looking like excellent Top 6 targets this week for those who don't have them.
The only way anyone can get them though is by sideways trading another prem to them
Surely you shouldn't be doing that at this stage?
Upgrade season hasn't started yet, so there is still merit in using this weeks trades to adjust your structure.
Goldy/Westhoff > ROB/Mumford and then Setterfield > Boak looks alright to me to get a dud forward rookie score off field.
Quote from: enzedder on April 18, 2019, 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2019, 10:47:38 AM
So plan for me will be to hold onto Bines as long as possible & then switch O'Brien to Lycett/Hoff when the time is right. Reckon Hoff will bounce back soon, should be 350k in a few weeks which is worth a punt.
This.
This +2
somebody ask RD about Rotham's JS please
O'Brien is a lock.
Should I get Hore or Stack as well this week, and if so, which one?
Quote from: Wanderer on April 18, 2019, 02:50:38 PM
O'Brien is a lock.
Should I get Hore or Stack as well this week, and if so, which one?
I'm going with Hore over Stack. More because It allows me a better M8 in Duursma over Butters
Quote from: Wanderer on April 18, 2019, 02:50:38 PM
O'Brien is a lock.
Should I get Hore or Stack as well this week, and if so, which one?
I would go Hore over Stack.
If Parker is out is it worth trading him over Setterfield. I just feel setters could come back and average 70’s
Quote from: smashbox on April 18, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Parker is out is it worth trading him over Setterfield. I just feel setters could come back and average 70’s
Hasn't shown anything to suggest he will come back and go 70+
I actually wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even come straight back in - he's been very ordinary
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2019, 03:34:58 PM
Quote from: smashbox on April 18, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
If Parker is out is it worth trading him over Setterfield. I just feel setters could come back and average 70’s
Hasn't shown anything to suggest he will come back and go 70+
I actually wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even come straight back in - he's been very ordinary
He's soft like most of the GWS retreads that Silvagni has recruited.
It sounds like Rotham is going to get dropped and I'm sad. :'(
I can still get ROB/Marshall but now I have to play 1 of these trash fwd rookies.
Quote from: IntegralX on April 18, 2019, 03:40:38 PM
It sounds like Rotham is going to get dropped and I'm sad. :'(
I can still get ROB/Marshall but now I have to play 1 of these trash fwd rookies.
I take the other view, he's still on the bubble & can be picked down the track.
Will Hayes and Lachie Young will debut for the Dogs on Sunday
Via Bulldogs app
Quote from: Bully on April 18, 2019, 03:44:21 PM
Quote from: IntegralX on April 18, 2019, 03:40:38 PM
It sounds like Rotham is going to get dropped and I'm sad. :'(
I can still get ROB/Marshall but now I have to play 1 of these trash fwd rookies.
I take the other view, he's still on the bubble & can be picked down the track.
Nah I would've much preferred him now. Means I wouldn't have to field a forward rookie.
Quote from: js19 on April 18, 2019, 03:47:37 PM
Will Hayes and Lachie Young will debut for the Dogs on Sunday
Via Bulldogs app
Hayes looks very good if he somehow gets some time in the crowded bulldogs midfield. Footscray's B&F last year averaging 26 touches.
Hately also one to watch
Stack had a really good round 1, came crashing back to earth round 2. Hore looked completely cooked round 1 and looked excellent in round 2. Both are expected to make the same amount of cash if they average mid 70's over the next two games so it's almost a wash there.
I guess it depends on structures, but it feels like there are a lot of nothing players in the forward line and midfield right now. The rest have cash still to make. If I had to pick one I'd be tempted by Hore, especially since he held his spot with Lewis and Jetta back.
Hately could be a long term option in the midfield in a fortnight and a downgrade target for Walsh/Cousins. Could also trade out a forward or defender with some DPP magic.
Does Jordan Clark survive the cut? He might be due for a rest..
Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if Guthrie comes in. I'm also preparing for Menegola to be rested but I think they give him at least this week
Anyone know much about Sydney Stack? Thinking of possibly getting him, however I haven't seen him play yet
Quote from: Samsturmfels on April 19, 2019, 11:14:15 AM
Anyone know much about Sydney Stack? Thinking of possibly getting him, however I haven't seen him play yet
He's very good for a 2nd game 19 year old, however with Cotchin and Riewoldt coming back from injury in the next month, as well as the need to bring Garthwaite in for Balta because Balta will get towelled up playing as a key defender vs Sydney, his spot in the team is vulnerable.
Who to burn first: Parker or Butters?
I've heard Parker is a bit sore, but looks fairly safe for a game at Stk. You'd think after three or four more games he'd top 250 at least. Butters has been good, but got beaten last week and has WC this week. Probably also has more cash in him, but JS could be a concern.
I know it's toss of a coin - just looking for any insights!
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 18, 2019, 06:45:15 PM
Stack had a really good round 1, came crashing back to earth round 2. Hore looked completely cooked round 1 and looked excellent in round 2. Both are expected to make the same amount of cash if they average mid 70's over the next two games so it's almost a wash there.
I guess it depends on structures, but it feels like there are a lot of nothing players in the forward line and midfield right now. The rest have cash still to make. If I had to pick one I'd be tempted by Hore, especially since he held his spot with Lewis and Jetta back.
Hately could be a long term option in the midfield in a fortnight and a downgrade target for Walsh/Cousins. Could also trade out a forward or defender with some DPP magic.
Why would you downgrade Walsh? The guy will be my last upgrade.
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on April 19, 2019, 11:20:31 AM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on April 19, 2019, 11:14:15 AM
Anyone know much about Sydney Stack? Thinking of possibly getting him, however I haven't seen him play yet
He's very good for a 2nd game 19 year old, however with Cotchin and Riewoldt coming back from injury in the next month, as well as the need to bring Garthwaite in for Balta because Balta will get towelled up playing as a key defender vs Sydney, his spot in the team is vulnerable.
Okay thanks m8, not sure if I should get him or not. I could get hore back in aswell. I was thinking of trading butters
Quote from: Samsturmfels on April 19, 2019, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on April 19, 2019, 11:20:31 AM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on April 19, 2019, 11:14:15 AM
Anyone know much about Sydney Stack? Thinking of possibly getting him, however I haven't seen him play yet
He's very good for a 2nd game 19 year old, however with Cotchin and Riewoldt coming back from injury in the next month, as well as the need to bring Garthwaite in for Balta because Balta will get towelled up playing as a key defender vs Sydney, his spot in the team is vulnerable.
Okay thanks m8, not sure if I should get him or not. I could get hore back in aswell. I was thinking of trading butters
I'm still stuck on the Hore vs. Stack conundrum...
If I get Hore, I can still get Ross next week without having to trade Scott. I honestly might decide based on how well Scott scores. If he scores well, I'll get Hore so I can keep Scott for more price rises. If he flops, I'll be trading him to Ross next week so I'll just get Stack this week.
Part of my Hore vs. Stack problem... If I get Hore, I have bench cover for the forwards in Burgess vs. a donut for any late outs. It also means I'm not forced to trade out Scott next week if I want to get Ross as I can trade out a forward rookie instead. Then there's also the fact that Hore has his 86 in his rolling average for two weeks whereas Stack has his 108 for only one price rise. And finally, if I get Stack, I still have no DPP flexibility in mids so I rely solely on mid rookies coming through instead of rookies from anywhere...
But then I want Stack because he's basement priced and scored a bloody 108 his first match!
Quote from: LaHug on April 19, 2019, 12:44:49 PM
Part of my Hore vs. Stack problem... If I get Hore, I have bench cover for the forwards in Burgess vs. a donut for any late outs. It also means I'm not forced to trade out Scott next week if I want to get Ross as I can trade out a forward rookie instead. Then there's also the fact that Hore has his 86 in his rolling average for two weeks whereas Stack has his 108 for only one price rise. And finally, if I get Stack, I still have no DPP flexibility in mids so I rely solely on mid rookies coming through instead of rookies from anywhere...
But then I want Stack because he's basement priced and scored a bloody 108 his first match!
I'm getting hore now for butters. Allows me to play duursma in the midfield to cover constable and I'll go a defensive rookie to Ross next week and swap duursma back in the midfield
Quote from: LaHug on April 19, 2019, 12:44:49 PM
Part of my Hore vs. Stack problem... If I get Hore, I have bench cover for the forwards in Burgess vs. a donut for any late outs. It also means I'm not forced to trade out Scott next week if I want to get Ross as I can trade out a forward rookie instead. Then there's also the fact that Hore has his 86 in his rolling average for two weeks whereas Stack has his 108 for only one price rise. And finally, if I get Stack, I still have no DPP flexibility in mids so I rely solely on mid rookies coming through instead of rookies from anywhere...
But then I want Stack because he's basement priced and scored a bloody 108 his first match!
Felxibility is key. It's why I am likely trading Butters instead. Means I can play Rozee forward and hopefully avoid Balta.
If Charlie is "rested" on Monday - does he come straight back in?
Damn, no FWD rookies to bring it...Noah on field :'(
Quote from: Thewizz71 on April 19, 2019, 02:59:47 PM
If Charlie is "rested" on Monday - does he come straight back in?
Has done nothing wrong this year. Surprised he is being rested this week but cats like him and he'll be back quickly.
Gee Scott really not getting into it again :(
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 19, 2019, 02:45:06 PM
Quote from: LaHug on April 19, 2019, 12:44:49 PM
Part of my Hore vs. Stack problem... If I get Hore, I have bench cover for the forwards in Burgess vs. a donut for any late outs. It also means I'm not forced to trade out Scott next week if I want to get Ross as I can trade out a forward rookie instead. Then there's also the fact that Hore has his 86 in his rolling average for two weeks whereas Stack has his 108 for only one price rise. And finally, if I get Stack, I still have no DPP flexibility in mids so I rely solely on mid rookies coming through instead of rookies from anywhere...
But then I want Stack because he's basement priced and scored a bloody 108 his first match!
Felxibility is key. It's why I am likely trading Butters instead. Means I can play Rozee forward and hopefully avoid Balta.
I'm dumb and that's not how my team would look at all. The only difference Stack vs. Hore gives me is I either have to field Hore/Clark and move Duursma to mid bench, or I field Duursma (if I get Stack). So it's a matter of Duursma on the mid bench giving some small flexibility or not. I'll surely be going Scott to Ross next week after another poor Scott performance so it doesn't affect next week either... And Stack's cheaper which might be enough of a difference maker.
Quote from: AaronKirk on April 19, 2019, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: Thewizz71 on April 19, 2019, 02:59:47 PM
If Charlie is "rested" on Monday - does he come straight back in?
Has done nothing wrong this year. Surprised he is being rested this week but cats like him and he'll be back quickly.
Where has it said that Constable is getting rested?
Cats and Hawks teams don't get finalised till Saturday afternoon.
Quote from: Judd Magic on April 19, 2019, 09:08:05 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on April 19, 2019, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: Thewizz71 on April 19, 2019, 02:59:47 PM
If Charlie is "rested" on Monday - does he come straight back in?
Has done nothing wrong this year. Surprised he is being rested this week but cats like him and he'll be back quickly.
Where has it said that Constable is getting rested?
Cats and Hawks teams don't get finalised till Saturday afternoon.
It was all but confirmed in a press conference today by Chris Scott. Said something about him being rested either last week or this week and that his performances have been really good to date.
https://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/2019-04-19/constable-likely-to-rest
Quote from: Chris Scott
He's a young player we need to get through the season so that was a priority for us, even over and above players coming back into the team.
It was either going to be last week or this week, and it's not a reflection of his performance because he's been going really well.
Quote from: LaHug on April 19, 2019, 07:05:29 PM
I'm dumb and that's not how my team would look at all. The only difference Stack vs. Hore gives me is I either have to field Hore/Clark and move Duursma to mid bench, or I field Duursma (if I get Stack). So it's a matter of Duursma on the mid bench giving some small flexibility or not. I'll surely be going Scott to Ross next week after another poor Scott performance so it doesn't affect next week either... And Stack's cheaper which might be enough of a difference maker.
Thing is you could always move Duursma back next week for Clark who is probably going to get a rest that week anyway. I will probably do something similar next week by trading Rozee, moving Setters forward again and bringing in Ross. It will depend how Parker plays and if Rozee has topped out now
Petruccelle you magnificent SOB!!
100 points, will go up 36k and have a be of -6
Will have to find someone else to trade out next week :)
Glad I kept Setters now. Allows me to swing him forward to get Petruccelle’s ton as well as covering Constable with a DPP such as T Kelly
Quote from: Gigantor on April 19, 2019, 11:09:39 PM
Petruccelle you magnificent SOB!!
100 points, will go up 36k and have a be of -6
Will have to find someone else to trade out next week :)
He will score 19 next week, so make sure you don't field him :P
Quote from: tkringle on April 19, 2019, 11:12:54 PM
Glad I kept Setters now. Allows me to swing him forward to get Petruccelle’s ton as well as covering Constable with a DPP such as T Kelly
Quote from: Gigantor on April 19, 2019, 11:09:39 PM
Petruccelle you magnificent SOB!!
100 points, will go up 36k and have a be of -6
Will have to find someone else to trade out next week :)
Traded him instead of Westhoff :'(
Quote from: justaverage on April 19, 2019, 11:42:00 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on April 19, 2019, 11:09:39 PM
Petruccelle you magnificent SOB!!
100 points, will go up 36k and have a be of -6
Will have to find someone else to trade out next week :)
Traded him instead of Westhoff :'(
Ouch! :-X
This was the one and only week I had to field Petruccelle 8)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 20, 2019, 01:20:19 AM
This was the one and only week I had to field Petruccelle 8)
Me too. Unfortunately my opponent in my cash league loopholed him.
On my bench. I wouldnt mind a parker late out now. But im very happy that petrucelle will make more money
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 20, 2019, 01:20:19 AM
This was the one and only week I had to field Petruccelle 8)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 20, 2019, 01:20:19 AM
This was the one and only week I had to field Petruccelle 8)
Well done mate, happy because you didn't compromise your trades for a bit of short term gain. Just rewards.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 20, 2019, 01:20:19 AM
This was the one and only week I had to field Petruccelle 8)
Well done mate, happy because you didn't compromise your trades for a bit of short term gain. Just rewards.
Cheers mate, you're exactly right. I could have made a desperate sideway trade or traded in someone dubious but decided to just take the hit and field him, expecting a 40-50, and stick to my trade plan moving forward because it will be worth it. Absolute bonus, and of course luck, that it's worked out this way
Next week Pet goes back to the bench where he belongs, and I can now bring in a prem forward because of this
parker playing?? got the E on Petrucelle
Ended up getting Stack instead of Hore. We'll see how it goes but Scott scoring poorly and putting his hand up for the Ross trade made my mind up.
hately ;)
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 20, 2019, 03:55:00 PM
hately ;)
Scott to hately looks to be a lock.
Either Parker or Burgess is the other out... Dunno who to yet
Hately looks to be a goer, perfect downgrade option for Constable.
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hately ;)
Scott to hately looks to be a lock.
Either Parker or Burgess is the other out... Dunno who to yet
Problem is unless Scott goes 70+ next week you wont make 50k from that trade
Would wait a week on Hatley.
Balta makes money! Unbelievable.
Im gunna grab baker next week. Miss out on ross and grab hately week after instead
Quote from: sammy123 on April 20, 2019, 10:20:09 PM
Im gunna grab baker next week. Miss out on ross and grab hately week after instead
Must be the week of the dud rookies. Gibbons, Balta and Pet all with their best scores by far.
Quote from: tkringle on April 21, 2019, 03:32:25 PM
Must be the week of the dud rookies. Gibbons, Balta and Pet all with their best scores by far.
Quote from: tkringle on April 21, 2019, 03:32:25 PM
Must be the week of the dud rookies. Gibbons, Balta and Pet all with their best scores by far.
This is why I didn't shuffle my rookies around from the get go, only takes 1 score to get things moving.
As for Baker, yeah I'm tempted, might have to punt Balta this week.
Plenty of cash gen coming now!
Traded out Gibbons in DT. Can't believe I did it. Was going to move on Cousins all week for more money but just couldn't see Gibbons every scoring above 50 as a Carlton small forward. FML
That ROB bloke seems like a decent get. 90 points against Witts is a fair effort. 34 hitouts and 12 disposals, very nice.
This week:
Ross
Baker
Bolton
Next week:
Hately
Hayes
Young
Anyone else?
Seeing as my fwd bench is Pet/Bines and Pet will now make plenty of cash, I guess passing on Bolton/Baker is an easy decision as I cannot fit them
Scott to Ross this week and Atkins to Hately/Hayes next week seems like the way to go for me
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 21, 2019, 08:01:46 PM
Scott to Ross this week and Atkins to Hately/Hayes next week seems like the way to go for me
Probs same for meee
My non playing bench so far this round
Gibbons 104
Petrucelle 100
Hore 96
O’Brien 90
Bines DNP
Have missed out on a few points.
Played Parker 51, Collins 45 and Scott 41.
-163 points
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 21, 2019, 08:01:46 PM
Seeing as my fwd bench is Pet/Bines and Pet will now make plenty of cash, I guess passing on Bolton/Baker is an easy decision as I cannot fit them
Scott to Ross this week and Atkins to Hately/Hayes next week seems like the way to go for me
Probably Scott to Ross, Balta to Baker. Although it all depends on how Atkins fares, more money to be made in that transaction.
I’m thinking of going a week early on Hately. He looks like a jet!
I have players to upgrade unfortunately, Sheed, Parker and possibly Cousins.
Quote from: enzedder on April 21, 2019, 08:07:50 PM
My non playing bench so far this round
Gibbons 104
Petrucelle 100
Hore 96
O’Brien 90
Bines DNP
Have missed out on a few points.
Played Parker 51, Collins 45 and Scott 41.
-163 points
Yep, similar story here mate. All of those guys on the bench for me while Parker and Duursma were on the field. Cruel game!
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My non playing bench so far this round
Gibbons 104
Petrucelle 100
Hore 96
O’Brien 90
Bines DNP
Have missed out on a few points.
Played Parker 51, Collins 45 and Scott 41.
-163 points
Yep, similar story here mate. All of those guys on the bench for me while Parker and Duursma were on the field. Cruel game!
Assuming you have Gawn and Grundy you can’t really be upset than ROB was on the bench!
I had gibbons and Petra on the bench. Parker my lowest rookies score of 51 so im happy
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 21, 2019, 08:01:46 PM
Seeing as my fwd bench is Pet/Bines and Pet will now make plenty of cash, I guess passing on Bolton/Baker is an easy decision as I cannot fit them
Scott to Ross this week and Atkins to Hately/Hayes next week seems like the way to go for me
I did think this as petra my only playing bench rookie. But may use the dp between moore and burgess to get baker instead of ross. Then do scott to hately week after
I think Baker is the rookie I want next week. Rotham should play for WC next week, I know they were missing Barrass but those defenders (except Hurn/Shepard) were awful in general.
Holding Scott. Just need him to get one decent score and I can look at dumping him soon after. Going to try and burn a combo of Rozee, Collins and Cousins. If Cousins tons up this week it's probably the other two.
Oh, and Parker is the other one that could be toast. Parker to Baker is not enough cash gen. I might do Parker to Ross using Setters again.
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 21, 2019, 11:39:56 PM
Holding Scott. Just need him to get one decent score and I can look at dumping him soon after. Going to try and burn a combo of Rozee, Collins and Cousins. If Cousins tons up this week it's probably the other two.
Yep, not worth trading rooks under 300K. Just be patient, look at Gibbons this week.
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Holding Scott. Just need him to get one decent score and I can look at dumping him soon after. Going to try and burn a combo of Rozee, Collins and Cousins. If Cousins tons up this week it's probably the other two.
Yep, not worth trading rooks under 300K. Just be patient, look at Gibbons this week.
:o
Dont understand north scott played midfield rd 1 had 30 touches. Since then he has played on the half forward flank
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Played well on the weekend in the NEAFL I heard somewhere
Was it his first game back? He probably needs a couple to get some run into his legs. And it is the NEAFL. He should be dominating.
3 goals and 18 possies is okay for first game back
Former VFL forward Josh Corbett was lively with 19 disposals, 10 marks and a goal.
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Played well on the weekend in the NEAFL I heard somewhere
Was it his first game back? He probably needs a couple to get some run into his legs. And it is the NEAFL. He should be dominating.
3 goals and 18 possies is okay for first game back
Former VFL forward Josh Corbett was lively with 19 disposals, 10 marks and a goal.
Has to be close, because Burgess is useless
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Played well on the weekend in the NEAFL I heard somewhere
Was it his first game back? He probably needs a couple to get some run into his legs. And it is the NEAFL. He should be dominating.
3 goals and 18 possies is okay for first game back
Former VFL forward Josh Corbett was lively with 19 disposals, 10 marks and a goal.
Has to be close, because Burgess is useless
+1
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Played well on the weekend in the NEAFL I heard somewhere
Was it his first game back? He probably needs a couple to get some run into his legs. And it is the NEAFL. He should be dominating.
3 goals and 18 possies is okay for first game back
Former VFL forward Josh Corbett was lively with 19 disposals, 10 marks and a goal.
Has to be close, because Burgess is useless
Burgess would be more value if he was dropped.
Corbett is probably in next week with how Gold Coast got spanked. A fortnight in the reserves is probably the norm to get some run in the legs. Maybe one more max
And 120k from rookies is probably the norm. 180 is a really good return. If Scott can get to 250k I'll he happy and dump him. Thing is I wany to make sure I'm making 100k minimum on the trade return
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And 120k from rookies is probably the norm. 180 is a really good return. If Scott can get to 250k I'll he happy and dump him. Thing is I wany to make sure I'm making 100k minimum on the trade return
It’s hard to see Scott getting there at the moment :-\
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And 120k from rookies is probably the norm. 180 is a really good return. If Scott can get to 250k I'll he happy and dump him. Thing is I wany to make sure I'm making 100k minimum on the trade return
It’s hard to see Scott getting there at the moment :-\
I was thinking the same about Gibbons and Pet before this round. Things can change quickly.
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 22, 2019, 02:33:01 PM
It’s hard to see Scott getting there at the moment :-\
He has shown he can chuck in a 100 here and there. If he can start scoring 60's instead of 40's while also scoring a ton somewhere along the way it should see him get close.
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And 120k from rookies is probably the norm. 180 is a really good return. If Scott can get to 250k I'll he happy and dump him. Thing is I wany to make sure I'm making 100k minimum on the trade return
It’s hard to see Scott getting there at the moment :-\
I was thinking the same about Gibbons and Pet before this round. Things can change quickly.
And a dummy me traded Gibbons out (instead of Cousins which is really hurting) because I was sick of waiting and didn't want to miss Stack
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And 120k from rookies is probably the norm. 180 is a really good return. If Scott can get to 250k I'll he happy and dump him. Thing is I wany to make sure I'm making 100k minimum on the trade return
It’s hard to see Scott getting there at the moment :-\
I was thinking the same about Gibbons and Pet before this round. Things can change quickly.
And a dummy me traded Gibbons out (instead of Cousins which is really hurting) because I was sick of waiting and didn't want to miss Stack
Having read all your posts over the last month, delete team might be the way to go - save yourself the stress :P
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And 120k from rookies is probably the norm. 180 is a really good return. If Scott can get to 250k I'll he happy and dump him. Thing is I wany to make sure I'm making 100k minimum on the trade return
It’s hard to see Scott getting there at the moment :-\
I was thinking the same about Gibbons and Pet before this round. Things can change quickly.
And a dummy me traded Gibbons out (instead of Cousins which is really hurting) because I was sick of waiting and didn't want to miss Stack
Having read all your posts over the last month, delete team might be the way to go - save yourself the stress :P
Haven't got a 50/50 right yet. Big turn around from the last couple of years where I hardly made a bad call.
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And 120k from rookies is probably the norm. 180 is a really good return. If Scott can get to 250k I'll he happy and dump him. Thing is I wany to make sure I'm making 100k minimum on the trade return
It’s hard to see Scott getting there at the moment :-\
I was thinking the same about Gibbons and Pet before this round. Things can change quickly.
And a dummy me traded Gibbons out (instead of Cousins which is really hurting) because I was sick of waiting and didn't want to miss Stack
Having read all your posts over the last month, delete team might be the way to go - save yourself the stress :P
Never give up! If you remember how bad my season was going last year & the fact I managed a top 2% finish just goes to show how quickly things can change. Plan for the byes & things can turn around pretty quickly.
Big decision to make with the mid rookies, Jack Ross this week or Will Hayes next week
Ross v Baker :-\
Can we also have a minute to worship Sam Walsh? 3 tonnes in a row, now up to $410k. Only downside is that 2/3rds of the comp selected him so it all counts for flower all
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Ross v Baker :-\
butters -ross or parker - baker. this issue is who keeps their spot when cotchin riewoldt come back in.
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Ross v Baker :-\
butters -ross or parker - baker. this issue is who keeps their spot when cotchin riewoldt come back in.
Riewoldt should be back this week, so that will help with some decisions.
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Ross v Baker :-\
butters -ross or parker - baker. this issue is who keeps their spot when cotchin riewoldt come back in.
Riewoldt should be back this week, so that will help with some decisions.
Baker should stay as he replaced Butler.
Ross this week, Hately next. Still don't have much cash in the bank, rooks still fattening and haven't had to make any trades that put cash in the bank.
I'm now thinking about passing on Ross
Reason being, Atkins and Gibbons have cash to make and Scott hasn't made enough to trade yet
Also, Clark and Burgess are the two rookies I actually want to get rid of because the latter in particular is horrible and both have increasing BE's now
I can actually squeeze in Clark to Lockhart and Burgess to Kelly/Billings/Daniel and I think that's actually the best play for me
I'll have both Hately and Hayes available next week and could dump Atkins and Scott for both of them if need be, and even if Lockhart doesn't get games it's not like who he will be replacing in Burgess is going to be a big difference, but with the short break and their poor form there's every chance Lockhart will get games soon enough
Basically, it's Scott to Ross and hold Burgess or Burgess to Lockhart and pass on Ross (Can only get 1 of Hately or Hayes next week too)
Reckon I'll pass on Ross. He looks good, but with the likes of Hately Hayes etc coming through he's not a must for me and dumping spud Burgess is the better play I think, plus I squeeze another weeks cash gen out of Atkins and Scott then trade them next week
Yup. Hately makes Ross meh. I feel more comfortable starting Hately on field (which I'll have to do) than Ross so I'd rather wait a week and then make that move
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 22, 2019, 08:53:19 PM
I'm now thinking about passing on Ross
Reason being, Atkins and Gibbons have cash to make and Scott hasn't made enough to trade yet
Also, Clark and Burgess are the two rookies I actually want to get rid of because the latter in particular is horrible and both have increasing BE's now
I can actually squeeze in Clark to Lockhart and Burgess to Kelly/Billings/Daniel and I think that's actually the best play for me
I'll have both Hately and Hayes available next week and could dump Atkins and Scott for both of them if need be, and even if Lockhart doesn't get games it's not like who he will be replacing in Burgess is going to be a big difference, but with the short break and their poor form there's every chance Lockhart will get games soon enough
Basically, it's Scott to Ross and hold Burgess or Burgess to Lockhart and pass on Ross (Can only get 1 of Hately or Hayes next week too)
Reckon I'll pass on Ross. He looks good, but with the likes of Hately Hayes etc coming through he's not a must for me and dumping spud Burgess is the better play I think, plus I squeeze another weeks cash gen out of Atkins and Scott then trade them next week
What about Young if he's named again? Only 18k more
Yeah Young is also another option but I need the extra 18k to get Kelly ;)
Young and Caleb is back up - and we'll know tomorrow if Lockhart gets named
I expect them to both be poor scoring options, but alright for D8 at this stage. Can't be worse than Burgess lol
I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
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I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
Get Hately
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I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
Depends who gets named, cash in the bank versus speculative cash, trades are valuable and we must make cash from them.
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I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
Get Hately
I'm really scratching my head here, Hately is 30k more expensive, he's not even on the bubble & he has Caldwell ready to take his place the moment he slips up. I'm not against the guy because I'll probably pick him but Ross has looked super comfortable & is averaging 21 possessions. From my perspective you take the guy who's ready to earn money & then reassess next week.
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I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
Get Hately
I'm really scratching my head here, Hately is 30k more expensive, he's not even on the bubble & he has Caldwell ready to take his place the moment he slips up. I'm not against the guy because I'll probably pick him but Ross has looked super comfortable & is averaging 21 possessions. From my perspective you take the guy who's ready to earn money & then reassess next week.
+1
Hayes might be better than both.
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Hayes might be better than both.
Might be, we need another week to see, meantime Ross makes cash.
Quote from: Southstorm on April 22, 2019, 08:23:22 PM
Can we also have a minute to worship Sam Walsh? 3 tonnes in a row, now up to $410k. Only downside is that 2/3rds of the comp selected him so it all counts for flower all
Amen! <200k trade to Neale in a few weeks looks delicious :-*
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I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
Get Hately
I'm really scratching my head here, Hately is 30k more expensive, he's not even on the bubble & he has Caldwell ready to take his place the moment he slips up. I'm not against the guy because I'll probably pick him but Ross has looked super comfortable & is averaging 21 possessions. From my perspective you take the guy who's ready to earn money & then reassess next week.
He said if he gets Ross then he cannot get Hately, meaning he can only get 1 and from those 2 I would easily take Hately
In terms of mids from last years draft I'd only have Hately behind Walsh and possibly Smith (SC wise). Big bodied mid with SANFL experience, and with Ward out I expect him to get a good crack at it now.
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I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
Get Hately
I'm really scratching my head here, Hately is 30k more expensive, he's not even on the bubble & he has Caldwell ready to take his place the moment he slips up. I'm not against the guy because I'll probably pick him but Ross has looked super comfortable & is averaging 21 possessions. From my perspective you take the guy who's ready to earn money & then reassess next week.
He said if he gets Ross then he cannot get Hately, meaning he can only get 1 and from those 2 I would easily take Hately
In terms of mids from last years draft I'd only have Hately behind Walsh and possibly Smith (SC wise). Big bodied mid with SANFL experience, and with Ward out I expect him to get a good crack at it now.
Yep that was my prediciment, I could only fit in one.
If RD's mate Lockhart comes in this week, I might skip Ross anyway. Grab Lockhart and take another look at Hately/Hayes.
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I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
Get Hately
I'm really scratching my head here, Hately is 30k more expensive, he's not even on the bubble & he has Caldwell ready to take his place the moment he slips up. I'm not against the guy because I'll probably pick him but Ross has looked super comfortable & is averaging 21 possessions. From my perspective you take the guy who's ready to earn money & then reassess next week.
He said if he gets Ross then he cannot get Hately, meaning he can only get 1 and from those 2 I would easily take Hately
In terms of mids from last years draft I'd only have Hately behind Walsh and possibly Smith (SC wise). Big bodied mid with SANFL experience, and with Ward out I expect him to get a good crack at it now.
Yep that was my prediciment, I could only fit in one.
If RD's mate Lockhart comes in this week, I might skip Ross anyway. Grab Lockhart and take another look at Hately/Hayes.
Don't get me wrong, I'd always want to wait for 2 games then get them on the bubble, just in case of injury, but I'm going early on Hately if it really is the only option you have (Getting 1 only)
ROB made $81K which is excellent. Only thing is I got no idea how I am gonna VC loophole now with Balta/Bines at F7/F8.
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ROB made $81K which is excellent. Only thing is I got no idea how I am gonna VC loophole now with Balta/Bines at F7/F8.
Put Bines on field with C and take E off Balta. If you have someone like Parker as F6, put him on the bench, chuck the E. If for eg Gawn is your VC and he kills it, then leave as is. If not switch Parker and Bines and pray no one is a late out in your fwds.
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ROB made $81K which is excellent. Only thing is I got no idea how I am gonna VC loophole now with Balta/Bines at F7/F8.
Put Bines on field with C and take E off Balta. If you have someone like Parker as F6, put him on the bench, chuck the E. If for eg Gawn is your VC and he kills it, then leave as is. If not switch Parker and Bines and pray no one is a late out in your fwds.
Cheers Tommy. Gawn is probs gonna be my VC. If Balta gets dropped it makes my decision for me but if he plays it's the pray vs. E on Balta that makes me nervous.
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I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
Get Hately
I'm really scratching my head here, Hately is 30k more expensive, he's not even on the bubble & he has Caldwell ready to take his place the moment he slips up. I'm not against the guy because I'll probably pick him but Ross has looked super comfortable & is averaging 21 possessions. From my perspective you take the guy who's ready to earn money & then reassess next week.
He said if he gets Ross then he cannot get Hately, meaning he can only get 1 and from those 2 I would easily take Hately
In terms of mids from last years draft I'd only have Hately behind Walsh and possibly Smith (SC wise). Big bodied mid with SANFL experience, and with Ward out I expect him to get a good crack at it now.
Yep that was my prediciment, I could only fit in one.
If RD's mate Lockhart comes in this week, I might skip Ross anyway. Grab Lockhart and take another look at Hately/Hayes.
Don't get me wrong, I'd always want to wait for 2 games then get them on the bubble, just in case of injury, but I'm going early on Hately if it really is the only option you have (Getting 1 only)
A lotta LOVE for HATEly. Personally I think waiting until he is named on the bubble is the go. Clark to LOCKhart if named my only trade this week I reckon. Mind you Clark could've easily scored 20-25 more. Intercept mark touched off the boot, play on, turned into holding the ball. Another soft hanging on free against + a couple other little fumbles or overlooked when open. It could also be said that Clark maybe due for a rest or omission with Tuohy back in the frame.
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I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
Get Hately
I'm really scratching my head here, Hately is 30k more expensive, he's not even on the bubble & he has Caldwell ready to take his place the moment he slips up. I'm not against the guy because I'll probably pick him but Ross has looked super comfortable & is averaging 21 possessions. From my perspective you take the guy who's ready to earn money & then reassess next week.
He said if he gets Ross then he cannot get Hately, meaning he can only get 1 and from those 2 I would easily take Hately
In terms of mids from last years draft I'd only have Hately behind Walsh and possibly Smith (SC wise). Big bodied mid with SANFL experience, and with Ward out I expect him to get a good crack at it now.
Yep that was my prediciment, I could only fit in one.
If RD's mate Lockhart comes in this week, I might skip Ross anyway. Grab Lockhart and take another look at Hately/Hayes.
Don't get me wrong, I'd always want to wait for 2 games then get them on the bubble, just in case of injury, but I'm going early on Hately if it really is the only option you have (Getting 1 only)
A lotta LOVE for HATEly. Personally I think waiting until he is named on the bubble is the go. Clark to LOCKhart if named my only trade this week I reckon. Mind you Clark could've easily scored 20-25 more. Intercept mark touched off the boot, play on, turned into holding the ball. Another soft hanging on free against + a couple other little fumbles or overlooked when open. It could also be said that Clark maybe due for a rest or omission with Tuohy back in the frame.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Clark rested this week
Who are possible bubble boys in 1 or 2 weeks time?
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Who are possible bubble boys in 1 or 2 weeks time?
Hatley
Hayes
Lewis
Rowbottom
Ham
Young
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I need to get a mid rookie this week, is Hately worth getting early over Ross? If I get Ross, I'd have to skip Hately.
Get Hately
I'm really scratching my head here, Hately is 30k more expensive, he's not even on the bubble & he has Caldwell ready to take his place the moment he slips up. I'm not against the guy because I'll probably pick him but Ross has looked super comfortable & is averaging 21 possessions. From my perspective you take the guy who's ready to earn money & then reassess next week.
He said if he gets Ross then he cannot get Hately, meaning he can only get 1 and from those 2 I would easily take Hately
In terms of mids from last years draft I'd only have Hately behind Walsh and possibly Smith (SC wise). Big bodied mid with SANFL experience, and with Ward out I expect him to get a good crack at it now.
Yep that was my prediciment, I could only fit in one.
If RD's mate Lockhart comes in this week, I might skip Ross anyway. Grab Lockhart and take another look at Hately/Hayes.
Don't get me wrong, I'd always want to wait for 2 games then get them on the bubble, just in case of injury, but I'm going early on Hately if it really is the only option you have (Getting 1 only)
A lotta LOVE for HATEly. Personally I think waiting until he is named on the bubble is the go. Clark to LOCKhart if named my only trade this week I reckon. Mind you Clark could've easily scored 20-25 more. Intercept mark touched off the boot, play on, turned into holding the ball. Another soft hanging on free against + a couple other little fumbles or overlooked when open. It could also be said that Clark maybe due for a rest or omission with Tuohy back in the frame.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Clark rested this week
Happy with that and use him to loophole this week.
'In the Mix' on the AFL site has Lockhart returning which is great news for those needing a defensive downgrade.
Doesn’t seem to be much mention of Baker from the tigers, no love?
Played consecutive weeks now with a 91 & 87. Haven’t seen the last couple of tigers games, what role is he playing/who would he potentially make way for?
Who do we have to downgrade fwd rookies to.
Baker, Bolton, Ham, Dylan Moore, Brander. Poor js for all of them and 4 of them are 140k plus.
How far away are Corbett, McAdam, Cavarra?
Cotchin potentially out for longer now could be good news for Ross or even Baker. Only have to hold Graham and Butler out now.
Quote from: crowls on April 23, 2019, 01:02:47 PM
Who do we have to downgrade fwd rookies to.
Baker, Bolton, Ham, Dylan Moore, Brander. Poor js for all of them and 4 of them are 140k plus.
How far away are Corbett, McAdam, Cavarra?
Corbett played well in his 2nd NEAFL game. Sam Wicks (SYD rookie listed) racked up 27 possies & 9 tackles so I am hoping he gets a gig asap.
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Doesn’t seem to be much mention of Baker from the tigers, no love?
Played consecutive weeks now with a 91 & 87. Haven’t seen the last couple of tigers games, what role is he playing/who would he potentially make way for?
Baker will be joining my side this week, great option for those with a fragile forward line.
Suspect Woolller or Ballandeen will debut for Brisbane this week. Both forwards and will be replacement for Andrews for as long as he is out.
Quick one about which rookies need to go.
Fair to say Rozee is ready with a BE of 81. I'll be looking at him down to Baker, even though I'm not confident on his JS
Who would be next of Parker at 47 and Clark at 48? Clark would be up probably to Sicily - Parker would be up to Kelly
Quote from: dylanclements on April 23, 2019, 04:01:22 PM
Quick one about which rookies need to go.
Fair to say Rozee is ready with a BE of 81. I'll be looking at him down to Baker, even though I'm not confident on his JS
Who would be next of Parker at 47 and Clark at 48? Clark would be up probably to Sicily - Parker would be up to Kelly
Probably Clark to Sicily. Only because we don't know who Hutchings goes to this week.
Quote from: dylanclements on April 23, 2019, 04:01:22 PM
Quick one about which rookies need to go.
Fair to say Rozee is ready with a BE of 81. I'll be looking at him down to Baker, even though I'm not confident on his JS
Who would be next of Parker at 47 and Clark at 48? Clark would be up probably to Sicily - Parker would be up to Kelly
Baker forecast to hit 250k in a fortnight, wouldn't be overly concerned about JS.
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Quick one about which rookies need to go.
Fair to say Rozee is ready with a BE of 81. I'll be looking at him down to Baker, even though I'm not confident on his JS
Who would be next of Parker at 47 and Clark at 48? Clark would be up probably to Sicily - Parker would be up to Kelly
Baker forecast to hit 250k in a fortnight, wouldn't be overly concerned about JS.
High starting price at 162K though..
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Quick one about which rookies need to go.
Fair to say Rozee is ready with a BE of 81. I'll be looking at him down to Baker, even though I'm not confident on his JS
Who would be next of Parker at 47 and Clark at 48? Clark would be up probably to Sicily - Parker would be up to Kelly
Baker forecast to hit 250k in a fortnight, wouldn't be overly concerned about JS.
High starting price at 162K though..
It's steep for sure but forward rookies can be very hit & miss, as worst case scenario he makes you 100k & then you move on. With Greene still cheap making that transition won't be too onerous.
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wouldn't be overly concerned about JS.
Evidently he's ahead of Bolton. I think Bolton and Butler will get a go before too long - if that's at Baker's expense I don't know. But hopefully Baker's good for a handful of games now at least.
Good enough for me I reckon - Rozee to Baker and Clark to Sicily seems to make sense
Bolton has been dropped for Jroo.
Those with C.Wagner in the mids he has been dropped by Melbourne.
Lockhart in for the dees.
Quote from: AaronKirk on April 23, 2019, 06:22:41 PM
Bolton has been dropped for Jroo.
Those with C.Wagner in the mids he has been dropped by Melbourne.
Lockhart in for the dees.
Great news, can now proceed with my trades - Clark to Lockhart, Burgess to Baker.
Which two of Ross, Baker + Lockhart?
Quote from: oh_lol on April 23, 2019, 06:35:51 PM
Which two of Ross, Baker + Lockhart?
With a couple of midfield options next week I'd go ahead & grab Baker & Lockhart.
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Which two of Ross, Baker + Lockhart?
I'd go Ross and Baker
Don't think Lockhart will score that well and his spot isn't locked in the side
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Which two of Ross, Baker + Lockhart?
I'd go Ross and Baker
Don't think Lockhart will score that well and his spot isn't locked in the side
He probably won't but if you want to grab some cash from defence then now is the time. At some point I'll get him to M11 & then he can be used to loophole.
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Which two of Ross, Baker + Lockhart?
I'd go Ross and Baker
Don't think Lockhart will score that well and his spot isn't locked in the side
I think you're right. I'm going Ross and Baker, even though Bully does make a valid point with MID rookies on the bubble next week. I'd rather have the guys I feel more certain keeping a spot. Can use the big bunch of cash from the double downgrade to a double upgrade next week (although probably won't, as I like the look of Hately).
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Which two of Ross, Baker + Lockhart?
Baker's been the best scorer, but costs the most. Would need to continue 70+ to make a decent amount of cash (look at Parker's first 2 games), and as a small forward is that likely? However theres a lack of fwd rookies coming through, he could be the best one we see for a while.
Ross is a mid with decent JS for a few weeks with Cotchin out and has high CBA numbers, definitely worth a look. Not a must however with Hately and Hayes on the bubble next week.
Lockhart is basement priced and has DPP. Shaky JS, but doesn't need as many points as Baker to make the same cash. If you have Duursma, could create a handy swing/loophole potential.
I'd probably go Ross and Lockhart.
could have another look at Lockhart next week, will only get to 130k ish this week.
My feeling on lockhart is that he will only be a good loophole option. Just think he has a very poor js
These long rounds make things so difficult. The Richmond boys play Wednesday night and we won’t even know about Rotham till Friday night.
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Which two of Ross, Baker + Lockhart?
Baker's been the best scorer, but costs the most. Would need to continue 70+ to make a decent amount of cash (look at Parker's first 2 games), and as a small forward is that likely? However theres a lack of fwd rookies coming through, he could be the best one we see for a while.
Ross is a mid with decent JS for a few weeks with Cotchin out and has high CBA numbers, definitely worth a look. Not a must however with Hately and Hayes on the bubble next week.
Lockhart is basement priced and has DPP. Shaky JS, but doesn't need as many points as Baker to make the same cash. If you have Duursma, could create a handy swing/loophole potential.
I'd probably go Ross and Lockhart.
Baker is set to make like 100k in 2 weeks if he just scores 58 twice. Lockhart will take 4-5 games to make that much unless he has a big game.
Is Rotham a chance with Barrass now out for 4+ weeks ?
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Is Rotham a chance with Barrass now out for 4+ weeks ?
Stop triggering RD ;D
I doubt it, Rotham is cover for Jetta/Cole/Duggan/Shep.
Schoefield was in for Barrass last week and I don't see that changing.
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Is Rotham a chance with Barrass now out for 4+ weeks ?
Cue RD.....
Everyone should trade in Rotham this week
Good enough to be on field too
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Everyone should trade in Rotham this week
Good enough to be on field too
:-X
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Everyone should trade in Rotham this week
Good enough to be on field too
+1
Is it too late to get Hore if we missed him last week? Should make more in two weeks than Lockhart will make all season without a big score.
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Is it too late to get Hore if we missed him last week? Should make more in two weeks than Lockhart will make all season without a big score.
Was originally going to go Setterfield to Baker but think I prefer Clark to Hore. I make a little bit more cash this way and trust Hore’s scoring ability and job security far more than Baker’s.
Can loophole Hore with Duursma/Wilkie (assuming Burgess gets dropped)
Can loophole Drew with Petrucelle (Setterfield)
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Is it too late to get Hore if we missed him last week? Should make more in two weeks than Lockhart will make all season without a big score.
I want to do this too but I need cash to upgrade Harris Andrews..
If I get Lockhart I can get Laird, if I get Hore I can get Witherden. Which one's worth it?
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Quote from: LaHug on April 24, 2019, 10:42:30 AM
Is it too late to get Hore if we missed him last week? Should make more in two weeks than Lockhart will make all season without a big score.
I want to do this too but I need cash to upgrade Harris Andrews..
If I get Lockhart I can get Laird, if I get Hore I can get Witherden. Which one's worth it?
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Is it too late to get Hore if we missed him last week? Should make more in two weeks than Lockhart will make all season without a big score.
I want to do this too but I need cash to upgrade Harris Andrews..
If I get Lockhart I can get Laird, if I get Hore I can get Witherden. Which one's worth it?
Another option is Butters to Ross (not on field), but kinda wanna save Butters for Hately next week.
worth getting HAtely a week early so i can double upgrade next week?
I think Ross Is better option than Hately, cheaper and I think has better JS. Both will average similar but hately has more competition I believe.
Not sure about Baker as well being 162k, will need to keep a 70+ average to be worthwhile
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I think Ross Is better option than Hately, cheaper and I think has better JS. Both will average similar but hately has more competition I believe.
Not sure about Baker as well being 162k, will need to keep a 70+ average to be worthwhile
Who is Hately's competition though? Remember Ward is out and they've lost Sheil.
Bailey Scott or matty paker for Baker?
Really don't think Baker's worth it at all. Can see him posting a really low score which halts cash generation before the bye.
Posts a couple of 80s then bang a 40 or a 50 and he's topped out in price and you can't wait for the score to cycle out.
Just something about the "small forward" role.
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Really don't think Baker's worth it at all. Can see him posting a really low score which halts cash generation before the bye.
Posts a couple of 80s then bang a 40 or a 50 and he's topped out in price and you can't wait for the score to cycle out.
Just something about the "small forward" role.
same spot i ended up getting too with baker. plenty of reversing this week. J Ross is a nice to have as JS looks sus, and I have not finalised how to use cash from downgrade. Going to give Sheed two more weeks. Butters>Hately next week and one of def//mid/fwd rookies to Hayes probably.
My absolutely-worth-nothing rankings.
1. Hayes (mature age midfielder - magnet)
2. Hately (gun with less ideal JS)
3. Lockhart (bottom price mature ager)
4. Baker (pricier mature ager playing a small HFF role)
5. Ross (looks the goods but 1st year and Cotch replacement)
6. The rest
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My absolutely-worth-nothing rankings.
1. Hayes (mature age midfielder - magnet)
2. Hately (gun with less ideal JS)
3. Lockhart (bottom price mature ager)
4. Baker (pricier mature ager playing a small HFF role)
5. Ross (looks the goods but 1st year and Cotch replacement)
6. The rest
lockhart playing small fwd, difficult position to score from even harder to score consistently at 50+.
Really pleased with Ross' score tonight, hopefully he can keep that sort out output going for a few weeks before Cotchin comes back.
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Really pleased with Ross' score tonight, hopefully he can keep that sort out output going for a few weeks before Cotchin comes back.
Hopefully Scott gets dropped so I can get his emergency score
In the last two weeks I've missed Hore, Ross, Baker but managed to get Lockhart... :/
I grabbed Baker over Ross. Ross did junk up in this one. Should make some decent coin. I still prefer Hatley next week unless he gets injured. He was one I was rolling with through preseason
Quote from: LaHug on April 25, 2019, 12:23:54 AM
In the last two weeks I've missed Hore, Ross, Baker but managed to get Lockhart... :/
Not your year so far LH. I missed Ross & Baker as well. Both scored well dammit. I got Hore on field so there's some consolation.
Missed Baker on purpose as pending team announcements will be going Burgess to Boak who will be a keeper.
Missed out on Ross and went Baker, Lockhart because of their positions, and I was already looking to get two mids in Hayes and Hately next week.
Keep an eye on Suns and Lions teams today as I suspect there will be a debutant or 2 named.
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Keep an eye on Suns and Lions teams today as I suspect there will be a debutant or 2 named.
Burgess out?
Here’s hoping
Quote from: Wanderer on April 25, 2019, 10:46:10 AM
Missed out on Ross and went Baker, Lockhart because of their positions, and I was already looking to get two mids in Hayes and Hately next week.
I ended up picking Ross and Baker this week because I had Duursma in the mids which allowed me to do Clark > Ross so I could skip Lockhart.
I'm not a big fan of Hayes though, he had a 10 disposal 1st QTR and then went missing for the rest of the game, suggesting he has fitness problems, and also his JS is iffy with the crazy amount of midfielders already in the dogs' team.
Hately is almost a lock for me next week however, I agree there.
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Quote from: Ringo on April 25, 2019, 12:13:42 PM
Keep an eye on Suns and Lions teams today as I suspect there will be a debutant or 2 named.
Burgess out?
Here’s hoping
Suspect Burgess to Corbett but Miles, Young, Day and Scheer are all available for selection as well. So we wait.
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Quote from: Wanderer on April 25, 2019, 10:46:10 AM
Missed out on Ross and went Baker, Lockhart because of their positions, and I was already looking to get two mids in Hayes and Hately next week.
I ended up picking Ross and Baker this week because I had Duursma in the mids which allowed me to do Clark > Ross so I could skip Lockhart.
I'm not a big fan of Hayes though, he had a 10 disposal 1st QTR and then went missing for the rest of the game, suggesting he has fitness problems, and also his JS is iffy with the crazy amount of midfielders already in the dogs' team.
Hately is almost a lock for me next week however, I agree there.
That's good feedback. I will certainly keep an eye on Hayes. I have heaps of cash to do an upgrade and will only bring in Hayes if he performs well again and if I don't see many better options coming up.
Unofficial at this stage but Noah Answerth likely to debut for Brisbane this week.
Rotham in the 26 :o ;D
Hately and Scott dropped. Rotham on the extended.
He's tempting me now there's a line through Hately.
Hately stiff as
Bench cover looking extremely thin in an instant!
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Hately stiff as
Very stiff but I suppose they feel they have the depth
anyone else dirty they hold bailey scott for jackson hately next week, overlooking jack ross? ross has a huge game for the tigers, then teams get named and scott and hately both omitted? RIP
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Hately stiff as
Very stiff but I suppose they feel they have the depth
We'll just have to get him in later in the season!
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 25, 2019, 07:20:59 PM
anyone else dirty they hold bailey scott for jackson hately next week, overlooking jack ross? ross has a huge game for the tigers, then teams get named and scott and hately both omitted? RIP
Yep, but held Clark instead (via Duursma). Now tossing up whether to go early on Hayes so I have defensive bench cover with Burgess there as well
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Quote from: bkimm32 on April 25, 2019, 07:20:59 PM
anyone else dirty they hold bailey scott for jackson hately next week, overlooking jack ross? ross has a huge game for the tigers, then teams get named and scott and hately both omitted? RIP
Yep, but held Clark instead (via Duursma). Now tossing up whether to go early on Hayes so I have defensive bench cover with Burgess there as well
In the same boat having not gone with Ross. I wanted to not sell rookies early this year but may need to cull a couple before they reach peak cash. You also need to pick up ones coming in somehow so a few cows have to get slaughtered early I suppose.
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Quote from: bkimm32 on April 25, 2019, 07:20:59 PM
anyone else dirty they hold bailey scott for jackson hately next week, overlooking jack ross? ross has a huge game for the tigers, then teams get named and scott and hately both omitted? RIP
Yep, but held Clark instead (via Duursma). Now tossing up whether to go early on Hayes so I have defensive bench cover with Burgess there as well
In the same boat having not gone with Ross. I wanted to not sell rookies early this year but may need to cull a couple before they reach peak cash. You also need to pick up ones coming in somehow so a few cows have to get slaughtered early I suppose.
Yeah, usually every year i go early culling rookies and it always seems to pan out. this year i've held unntil optimal pricing and things have gone bad
Hately out has botched my plans a bit but hopefully back next next week. The beauty about picking Ross was the fact he could potentially hold down M8 for a few weeks. Not sure what I'll do next week, need another rookie to put their hand up.
"Expect Hately to play with Davis (ankle) a long shot despite being named"
via Adam Curley (afl.com.au's NSW guy) on twitter.
Quote from: Koop on April 25, 2019, 09:12:49 PM
"Expect Hately to play with Davis (ankle) a long shot despite being named"
via Adam Curley (afl.com.au's NSW guy) on twitter.
If this is true. I hope hately has 35 touches and goes pf his head so he plays next week
Yep like the rest of you who passed on Ross I also did because I wanted another week of Atkins/Scott making cash, then was grabbing Hatley/Hayes next week, but the Hately and Scott omissions (And Ross score) has really stuffed it up
Good to see Hately might in fact get named if Davis is a late out, but really it's not that great - clearly JS will be an issue and he will be straight back out once Davis returns
Ross JS on the other hand getting stronger and stronger - might be the first costly mistake for the year
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 26, 2019, 03:26:14 PM
Yep like the rest of you who passed on Ross I also did because I wanted another week of Atkins/Scott making cash, then was grabbing Hatley/Hayes next week, but the Hately and Scott omissions (And Ross score) has really stuffed it up
Good to see Hately might in fact get named if Davis is a late out, but really it's not that great - clearly JS will be an issue and he will be straight back out once Davis returns
Ross JS on the other hand getting stronger and stronger - might be the first costly mistake for the year
Well all is not lost, if Hately gets a game on Saturday & does well then he may just buy himself a couple of weeks. That M8 spot is critical so here's hoping.
As for being costly, if you really want to rationalise it, Lockhart makes 40k, Atkins makes 30k, Ross goes up 70k, you can still bring in Ross this week & it hasn't affected your earnings. Given Hately is on the expensive side the differential isn't massive.
As for Lockhart, I brought him in for other reasons, he either makes 150k or he can be used as a floating donut, The benefits won't really been seen for a few weeks yet. Then there's his ability to move into the midfield & cull someone like Gibbons. Zero regrets about making that trade. As long as you have a few cows mooing on the bench I wouldn't be in panic mode.
Certainly not panic stages at all - just would have preferred to grab Ross now, but that's hindsight
I grabbed Lockhart for the same reasons - really don't care about his scoring as he replaced Burgess who was just as bad, but his DPP will be very handy, and like you mentioned I have planned to get him to M11 soon enough which will allow me to turn Gibbons into a DEF prem
I passed on all the Tigers (Ross, Stack, Baker) but all the cows I have are going along nicely, so all in all I'm in a pretty good spot
Still plan to double down next week - just hope we have some good looking options - Corbett is one I will consider going early on if push comes to shove, but either way I want to punt Atkins/Scott next week ideally
I was keeping Butters because I thought once he gets that 23 out of his rolling average he will start making coin again..........nekminnit on 10 at 1/2 time ::)
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 26, 2019, 10:19:27 PM
I was keeping Butters because I thought once he gets that 23 out of his rolling average he will start making coin again..........nekminnit on 10 at 1/2 time ::)
Put a fork in him
Hayes not in the conversation for next week still?
Quote from: justaverage on April 26, 2019, 10:24:45 PM
Hayes not in the conversation for next week still?
everyone who is smart is seeing how he goes this week 1st
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 26, 2019, 10:19:27 PM
I was keeping Butters because I thought once he gets that 23 out of his rolling average he will start making coin again..........nekminnit on 10 at 1/2 time ::)
24 point quarter. Might still get to 60
Traded Rozee this week seems his BE was 74, and then he hits it at 3qt... >:(
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I was keeping Butters because I thought once he gets that 23 out of his rolling average he will start making coin again..........nekminnit on 10 at 1/2 time ::)
24 point quarter. Might still get to 60
If he would stop giving away free kicks it would help. That’s what killed him the week he got 23 as well >:(
Larkey looks a reasonable prospect but need to see next week as well.
Quote from: js19 on April 26, 2019, 11:10:41 PM
Traded Rozee this week seems his BE was 74, and then he hits it at 3qt... >:(
Did the same thing but I grabbed Baker. Rozee will still make some decent cash, just have to hope Baker makes the same quicker.
Hoping to make a few downgrades over the next couple of weeks so figured I should list the options
Next week
Lachlan Young (DEF)
Will Hayes (MID)
James Rowbottom (MID)
Jarrod Brander (FWD)
Mitch Lewis (FWD)
Following week
Noah Answerth (DEF/MID)
Josh Corbett (FWD)
Nick Larkey (FWD)
Hately tbc
Got a few forwards coming through, so might need to downgrade Drew and Pet as opposed to upgrading them. Will wait and see
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 27, 2019, 01:38:26 AM
Hoping to make a few downgrades over the next couple of weeks so figured I should list the options
Next week
Lachlan Young (DEF)
Will Hayes (MID)
James Rowbottom (MID)
Jarrod Brander (FWD)
Mitch Lewis (FWD)
Following week
Noah Answerth (DEF/MID)
Josh Corbett (FWD)
Nick Larkey (FWD)
Hately tbc
Got a few forwards coming through, so might need to downgrade Drew and Pet as opposed to upgrading them. Will wait and see
Yuck.. glad I got Ross and Baker instead of holding off. Hayes is the only one there I'll look at
Quote from: quinny88 on April 27, 2019, 02:52:40 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 27, 2019, 01:38:26 AM
Hoping to make a few downgrades over the next couple of weeks so figured I should list the options
Next week
Lachlan Young (DEF)
Will Hayes (MID)
James Rowbottom (MID)
Jarrod Brander (FWD)
Mitch Lewis (FWD)
Following week
Noah Answerth (DEF/MID)
Josh Corbett (FWD)
Nick Larkey (FWD)
Hately tbc
Got a few forwards coming through, so might need to downgrade Drew and Pet as opposed to upgrading them. Will wait and see
Yuck.. glad I got Ross and Baker instead of holding off. Hayes is the only one there I'll look at
Yeah hayes at 117K i will pick up if he backs up again
Quote from: js19 on April 26, 2019, 11:10:41 PM
Traded Rozee this week seems his BE was 74, and then he hits it at 3qt... >:(
I am in the same boat. >:( The only consolation for me being I traded him to Kelly.
Quote from: sammy123 on April 27, 2019, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 27, 2019, 02:52:40 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 27, 2019, 01:38:26 AM
Hoping to make a few downgrades over the next couple of weeks so figured I should list the options
Next week
Lachlan Young (DEF)
Will Hayes (MID)
James Rowbottom (MID)
Jarrod Brander (FWD)
Mitch Lewis (FWD)
Following week
Noah Answerth (DEF/MID)
Josh Corbett (FWD)
Nick Larkey (FWD)
Hately tbc
Got a few forwards coming through, so might need to downgrade Drew and Pet as opposed to upgrading them. Will wait and see
Yuck.. glad I got Ross and Baker instead of holding off. Hayes is the only one there I'll look at
Yeah hayes at 117K i will pick up if he backs up again
As much as I like Answeth he will have competition from both Bailey and Adams who are due to return within the next 2 weeks. Adams may return via NEAFL which may help and we get a price rise out of him.
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Quote from: js19 on April 26, 2019, 11:10:41 PM
Traded Rozee this week seems his BE was 74, and then he hits it at 3qt... >:(
I am in the same boat. >:( The only consolation for me being I traded him to Kelly.
Same for me, so here’s hoping Kelly has a cracker!
Corbett anyone?
Quote from: HoleMeal on April 27, 2019, 04:09:46 PM
Corbett anyone?
Lock
Was a lock for Round 1 before he got injured - perfect timing now for a downgrade option
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 27, 2019, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: HoleMeal on April 27, 2019, 04:09:46 PM
Corbett anyone?
Lock
Was a lock for Round 1 before he got injured - perfect timing now for a downgrade option
Prefer to see how he goes against Eagles defence. With Andrews out he is getting probably 3rd defender instead of 2nd,
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 27, 2019, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: HoleMeal on April 27, 2019, 04:09:46 PM
Corbett anyone?
Lock
Was a lock for Round 1 before he got injured - perfect timing now for a downgrade option
Prefer to see how he goes against Eagles defence. With Andrews out he is getting probably 3rd defender instead of 2nd,
He's a 117k rookie, not a 500k prem. JS should be rock solid now so he's a lock imo
Yup. Corbett, Hayes and Hately are the three rookies I'm eyeing off over the next fortnight. He will likely score more today than Burgess has all season
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 27, 2019, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: HoleMeal on April 27, 2019, 04:09:46 PM
Corbett anyone?
Lock
Was a lock for Round 1 before he got injured - perfect timing now for a downgrade option
Prefer to see how he goes against Eagles defence. With Andrews out he is getting probably 3rd defender instead of 2nd,
He's a 117k rookie, not a 500k prem. JS should be rock solid now so he's a lock imo
Will probably get him in but just want to see how he goes next week. Not going to move early as forward rooks still mooing.
Hayes and Young solid tonight, definitely valid options for next week.
I'd say the odds of a Rotham recall have just gone through the roof, Tom Cole 7 points at 3/4 time, Schofield 13.
Quote from: Bully on April 28, 2019, 08:03:46 PM
I'd say the odds of a Rotham recall have just gone through the roof, Tom Cole 7 points at 3/4 time, Schofield 13.
Not sure west coast judges their players based off their supercoach score
Quote from: Big Mac on April 28, 2019, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 28, 2019, 08:03:46 PM
I'd say the odds of a Rotham recall have just gone through the roof, Tom Cole 7 points at 3/4 time, Schofield 13.
Not sure west coast judges their players based off their supercoach score
I don't know about you, but I'd say a 10 goal loss warrants some omissions of players who barely touched the ball. Those SC scores serve as evidence that they didn't do much :-X
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Quote from: Bully on April 28, 2019, 08:03:46 PM
I'd say the odds of a Rotham recall have just gone through the roof, Tom Cole 7 points at 3/4 time, Schofield 13.
Not sure west coast judges their players based off their supercoach score
I don't know about you, but I'd say a 10 goal loss warrants some omissions of players who barely touched the ball. Those SC scores serve as evidence that they didn't do much :-X
Cole finished with 11 & Schofield 15, pretty accurate representation of the game.
I'm not going to even bother with the above convo
What rookies are people looking to bring in this week?
At this stage, I think Atkins to Hayes is the only one that stands out to me. I want to double down if possible, so will need to check new BE's
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 28, 2019, 08:36:21 PM
I'm not going to even bother with the above convo
What rookies are people looking to bring in this week?
At this stage, I think Atkins to Hayes is the only one that stands out to me. I want to double down if possible, so will need to check new BE's
Atkins to Hayes, Collins to Laird.
Not that it matters but I did read Francis Watson got stretchered off with a shoulder injury in the WAFL so whilst that does not put Rotham in the 22 it does take away one in the queue.
I’m sure Rotham will get games here and there but surely you would listen to RD who is a mad eagle fan. He is going to be in and out of the side at best.
Anyways,
Atkins to Hayes for me and I think that’ll be it this round.
Quote from: Money Shot on April 28, 2019, 09:36:16 PM
I’m sure Rotham will get games here and there but surely you would listen to RD who is a mad eagle fan. He is going to be in and out of the side at best.
Anyways,
Atkins to Hayes for me and I think that’ll be it this round.
Sure & as I've mentioned to Raisy I only want 3 price rises, even 2 would take him to 250k, that's not an outrageous bet.
Reckon Robbie Young might get a good crack now with Lonie going down
Another 117k fwd
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 28, 2019, 10:20:32 PM
Reckon Robbie Young might get a good crack now with Lonie going down
Another 117k fwd
Has been very average in the VFL, wouldn't bank on it.
I have a feeling Begley will come into Essendon's side in the next few weeks. Laverde was being primed for a run but since his hamstring again let him down, Begley will get another chance again. Priced at $167k but very shaky JS
Expect a Liam Stocker debut this week, assuming Simmo is out.
Schumacher, Stocker and Williamson are looking like playing AFL footy in the coming weeks.
Cavarra also close for the Doggies.
Hayes is the only rookie I like from this weeks lot, but I like all of Corbett/Answerth/Larkey next week, so I'm thinking I might go a week early on Corbett just so I have both trades available next week
On second thoughts, I'm not overly sure about Hayes either and might even pass on him too
Need to explore all trade options, then make a call on him
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 12:22:31 AM
Hayes is the only rookie I like from this weeks lot, but I like all of Corbett/Answerth/Larkey next week, so I'm thinking I might go a week early on Corbett just so I have both trades available next week
Why would you want both Corbett and Larkey for? ???
Petro is the only one worth downgrading up forward imo and I wouldn't waste a trade on Balta.
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 12:22:31 AM
Hayes is the only rookie I like from this weeks lot, but I like all of Corbett/Answerth/Larkey next week, so I'm thinking I might go a week early on Corbett just so I have both trades available next week
Why would you want both Corbett and Larkey for? ???
Petro is the only one worth downgrading up forward imo and I wouldn't waste a trade on Balta.
Pet and Drew are ready to cull next week. Might cull Gibbons, move Drew to M9 too
Pet and Gibbons for Corbett and Larkey is one of many options I am considering
Plenty of options
Considering the lengthy list of names that need to go, Willem Drew would surely be near the bottom of it. Could do a lot worse at F6.
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 29, 2019, 01:23:17 AM
Considering the lengthy list of names that need to go, Willem Drew would surely be near the bottom of it. Could do a lot worse at F6.
Yeah, he'll stay at F6 or move to M9
Gibbons and Pet need to go next week, and I'm looking at offloading two of Atkins/Scrimshaw/Wilkie this week
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 29, 2019, 01:23:17 AM
Considering the lengthy list of names that need to go, Willem Drew would surely be near the bottom of it. Could do a lot worse at F6.
Perfect guy to perch at M9, have no intention of trading anytime soon.
Answerth has mid/def DPP, pretty sure he'll be the guy I grab next week for Gibbons. Means I cab trade Duursma & still maintain the flexibility.
Posting here and have said on other sites that take Answerth at your risk.
Reasoning is Lions have Andrews, Bailey and Adams to come back in within the next 2 weeks. And in my opinion Bailey, Adams and Answerth will be fighting for the one position. Hinge also putting pressure on for that roile as well.
Quote from: Ringo on April 29, 2019, 01:13:58 PM
Posting here and have said on other sites that take Answerth at your risk.
Reasoning is Lions have Andrews, Bailey and Adams to come back in within the next 2 weeks. And in my opinion Bailey, Adams and Answerth will be fighting for the one position. Hinge also putting pressure on for that roile as well.
Might trade him and Rotham in this week :-X
Quote from: Ringo on April 29, 2019, 01:13:58 PM
Posting here and have said on other sites that take Answerth at your risk.
Reasoning is Lions have Andrews, Bailey and Adams to come back in within the next 2 weeks. And in my opinion Bailey, Adams and Answerth will be fighting for the one position. Hinge also putting pressure on for that roile as well.
Marcus Adams and Zac Bailey fighting for the same spot? Doesn't sound right ???
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:05:56 PM
Quote from: Ringo on April 29, 2019, 01:13:58 PM
Posting here and have said on other sites that take Answerth at your risk.
Reasoning is Lions have Andrews, Bailey and Adams to come back in within the next 2 weeks. And in my opinion Bailey, Adams and Answerth will be fighting for the one position. Hinge also putting pressure on for that roile as well.
Marcus Adams and Zac Bailey fighting for the same spot? Doesn't sound right ???
Adams won't come in any time soon imo. Bailey didnt exactly set the world on fire either. If Answerth continues on from the weekend then he'll hold his spot.
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
Surely, we stunk to high heavens.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Not sure whether to take you serious or not RD ;D
Quote from: jvalles69 on April 29, 2019, 02:21:22 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
Surely, we stunk to high heavens.
Can't see it myself. They're 3 & 3 complete with a nice shiny new addition to the trophy cabinet. Playing Geelong at the Cattery after they lost their last game there was always going to be a tough gig (how many times in recent history have the Cats lost consecutive home games?). Not saying the Eagles will be happy with the performance or that they will win the flag again but there is no need for panic stations. Brander makes way for Redden. Darling would be coming under the microscope but I would think they will be hoping he can find some form/confidence at home against the Suns in what should/will be a minimum 8 goal win.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Did you see the game Raisy? Cole looked like a bush footballer & Schofield should consider retirement I get the fact that they are premiership players but poor form is poor form. Richmond have blooded the youngsters, despite the fact they have a recent flag, premiership stars like Graham & Butler are on the outer whilst Ross, Stack & Baker are getting games. The game doesn't remain stagnant & West Coast are struggling. Wouldn't be surprised to see as many as 4-5 changes this week.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Im just saying he has been good when given a chance and Cole has been dreadful, why not give him an chance?
Quote from: Bully on April 29, 2019, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Did you see the game Raisy? Cole looked like a bush footballer & Schofield should consider retirement I get the fact that they are premiership players but poor form is poor form. Richmond have blooded the youngsters, despite the fact they have a recent flag, premiership stars like Graham & Butler are on the outer whilst Ross, Stack & Baker are getting games. The game doesn't remain stagnant & West Coast are struggling. Wouldn't be surprised to see as many as 4-5 changes this week.
Slightly off topic but I read Graham done a hammy on the weekend which probs bodes well for all/any of the 3 Richmond rooks of which I have none unfortunately. Just didn't have anyone to cull like many other coaches I suspect. I did read someone on here done Clark > Ross via Duurs from the MIDs. Nice. Well played.
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Quote from: Bully on April 29, 2019, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Did you see the game Raisy? Cole looked like a bush footballer & Schofield should consider retirement I get the fact that they are premiership players but poor form is poor form. Richmond have blooded the youngsters, despite the fact they have a recent flag, premiership stars like Graham & Butler are on the outer whilst Ross, Stack & Baker are getting games. The game doesn't remain stagnant & West Coast are struggling. Wouldn't be surprised to see as many as 4-5 changes this week.
Slightly off topic but I read Graham done a hammy on the weekend which probs bodes well for all/any of the 3 Richmond rooks of which I have none unfortunately. Just didn't have anyone to cull like many other coaches I suspect. I did read someone on here done Clark > Ross via Duurs from the MIDs. Nice. Well played.
Yeah Dez, that was me, grabbed Baker too for Parker which also worked out. Decided this year to cull rookies a little bit earlier than usual and as I'm 105th overall right now I think it's worked out so far.
It'll be interesting to see what changes Richmond makes over the next few weeks though with Jack out again, may just have Bolton come back for 2 weeks until Cotchin is fit.
Quote from: Bully on April 29, 2019, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Did you see the game Raisy? Cole looked like a bush footballer & Schofield should consider retirement I get the fact that they are premiership players but poor form is poor form. Richmond have blooded the youngsters, despite the fact they have a recent flag, premiership stars like Graham & Butler are on the outer whilst Ross, Stack & Baker are getting games. The game doesn't remain stagnant & West Coast are struggling. Wouldn't be surprised to see as many as 4-5 changes this week.
Schofield needed to go out on a high like Le Cras, needs to call it a day.
Quote from: Bully on April 29, 2019, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Did you see the game Raisy? Cole looked like a bush footballer & Schofield should consider retirement I get the fact that they are premiership players but poor form is poor form. Richmond have blooded the youngsters, despite the fact they have a recent flag, premiership stars like Graham & Butler are on the outer whilst Ross, Stack & Baker are getting games. The game doesn't remain stagnant & West Coast are struggling. Wouldn't be surprised to see as many as 4-5 changes this week.
Of course I watched the game
How often do established best 22 players get dropped off 1 bad game? Not to mention we have GC at home this week
Butler was horrible for ages before getting dropped, and the likes of Ross and Stack are only playing because of injuries which is the exact same for Rotham - he only played because of injury
I'm not saying Rotham will never play, but everyone around here hoping that he will be their savior needs to move on already.
Schofield is only playing because he is insurance for Barrass/McGovern and with the former out for 7+ he will likely continue to play
Rotham might get another look, but I wouldn't be touching him. You recently said you only need 2-3 cash rises out of him - well that could take the entire season to occur
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Not like the eagles could do with an injection of youth is it RD? Got to get some games into them sometime.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 03:14:29 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 29, 2019, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Did you see the game Raisy? Cole looked like a bush footballer & Schofield should consider retirement I get the fact that they are premiership players but poor form is poor form. Richmond have blooded the youngsters, despite the fact they have a recent flag, premiership stars like Graham & Butler are on the outer whilst Ross, Stack & Baker are getting games. The game doesn't remain stagnant & West Coast are struggling. Wouldn't be surprised to see as many as 4-5 changes this week.
Of course I watched the game
How often do established best 22 players get dropped off 1 bad game? Not to mention we have GC at home this week
Butler was horrible for ages before getting dropped, and the likes of Ross and Stack are only playing because of injuries which is the exact same for Rotham - he only played because of injury
I'm not saying Rotham will never play, but everyone around here hoping that he will be their savior needs to move on already.
Schofield is only playing because he is insurance for Barrass/McGovern and with the former out for 7+ he will likely continue to play
Rotham might get another look, but I wouldn't be touching him. You recently said you only need 2-3 cash rises out of him - well that could take the entire season to occur
Don't often disagree with you RD, but in regards to the Richmond players you mentioned, I don't think that's true.
Butler had 2 bad games and was dropped. Round 1 he had 13 disposals, 7 tackles and a goal which is all our small fwds are asked to do, but then was quiet and was dropped after Round 3.
Ross did come in for Cotchin, however Graham would have been dropped for Ross anyway the following week.
Stack came in for Grimes when he was suspended and has kept his place since, yes Short got injured but Houli came back from injury, so they effectively cancel each other out.
My point is, some WCE defenders are playing poorly at the moment, and regardless of them replacing injuries, surely if a Cole or a Schofield is dropped for Rotham they'd give him a 2-3 week run after his solid performance vs Freo.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: Colty on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM
With the Eagles stinking surely Rotham gets a gig now? Hes a lock if selected IMO.
For sure
When you've had back to back floggings, a kid who has played 2 games is the answer
Lock Rotham in
Well.... only if you insist RD. :D
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on April 29, 2019, 03:35:25 PM
My point is, some WCE defenders are playing poorly at the moment, and regardless of them replacing injuries, surely if a Cole or a Schofield is dropped for Rotham they'd give him a 2-3 week run after his solid performance vs Freo.
Believe me, I want Rotham getting a run just as much as everyone around here does, but the fact of the matter is that our defenders have got the runs on the board, and I doubt they''ll be getting dropped off 1 poor game
Like I said a couple of weeks ago, Rotham is only likely to get a game if 1 of Cole/Jetta/Shep/Duggan gets injured, and Schofield is insurance for Barrass/McGovern/Hurn
Cole had a stinker yesterday, but he has been fine for the rest of the season - too much knee jerking off 1 bad game which is why I suspect Rotham will not be playing, and even if he does there's a high chance he is out the next week, and don't go counting on "if he has a good game he'll hold his spot" because he had an excellent game vs Collingwood and was straight out
Quote from: crowls on April 29, 2019, 03:29:10 PM
Not like the eagles could do with an injection of youth is it RD? Got to get some games into them sometime.
What do you mean? They have already injected youth into the side by squeezing Brander & Oscar Allen in with JJK & Darling.
Playing too much youth is probably one of the reasons why they are struggling. Why mess with the formula that won you a premiership?
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 29, 2019, 02:05:56 PM
Quote from: Ringo on April 29, 2019, 01:13:58 PM
Posting here and have said on other sites that take Answerth at your risk.
Reasoning is Lions have Andrews, Bailey and Adams to come back in within the next 2 weeks. And in my opinion Bailey, Adams and Answerth will be fighting for the one position. Hinge also putting pressure on for that roile as well.
Marcus Adams and Zac Bailey fighting for the same spot? Doesn't sound right ???
You can scratch Adams now anyway due to the fact he has undergone knee surgery and will be out for 6/8 weeks. So Answerths chances increase.
Setterfield will come back in for the Blues this week?
Quote from: Football Factory on April 29, 2019, 09:35:48 PM
Setterfield will come back in for the Blues this week?
will just message Boltsy and ask
I have my doubts, but a couple of injuries, albeit not quite his position, may play into his hands.
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 29, 2019, 11:46:18 PM
I have my doubts, but a couple of injuries, albeit not quite his position, may play into his hands.
Depends how serious the Newman and Simmo injuries are. We moved Murphy to HB and it's something we played with through preseason. Setters could come in and run through HF/Wing to replace Murphy if needed there.
It was tightness so Simmo will play if he pulls up fine. Newman was limping horribly with a hip/corkie but was fine when he came back from the rooms. Kreuz is the one most likely to miss. Charlie also likely back in.
Will Hayes JS reasonably solid? What role has he played? Haven't watched his games
Quote from: quinny88 on April 30, 2019, 02:26:17 AM
Will Hayes JS reasonably solid? What role has he played? Haven't watched his games
and similarly what is the JS of Lachlan Young? Comments on both welcome.
Quote from: quinny88 on April 30, 2019, 02:26:17 AM
Will Hayes JS reasonably solid? What role has he played? Haven't watched his games
From what I have seen HFF for Hayes. So a few lead up marks 70ish out & 2 or 3 shots on goal a game at a guess. Very similar to his JLT role in fact.
I usually feel much safer with mature age guys. Even little Gibbons has proven his worth.
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Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 29, 2019, 11:30:45 PM
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Setterfield will come back in for the Blues this week?
will just message Boltsy and ask
Cheers ;D
You would think so now he has served his 2 match suspension
For what it’s worth I think he doesn’t come straight in.
Casboult out for Curnow is the only move I would be making. I’m not Bolton though so who knows.
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Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 29, 2019, 11:30:45 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on April 29, 2019, 09:35:48 PM
Setterfield will come back in for the Blues this week?
will just message Boltsy and ask
Cheers ;D
You would think so now he has served his 2 match suspension
For what it’s worth I think he doesn’t come straight in.
Casboult out for Curnow is the only move I would be making. I’m not Bolton though so who knows.
It's a fair call, Blues have played well without him lol
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Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 29, 2019, 11:30:45 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on April 29, 2019, 09:35:48 PM
Setterfield will come back in for the Blues this week?
will just message Boltsy and ask
Cheers ;D
You would think so now he has served his 2 match suspension
For what it’s worth I think he doesn’t come straight in.
Casboult out for Curnow is the only move I would be making. I’m not Bolton though so who knows.
It's a fair call, Blues have played well without him lol
Simpson and Newman could both be out though which may be his saving grace. Different positions though.
Don't know why I brought in Lockhart. Looks like he might be dropped already.
My DEF bench now consists of Burgess & Lockhart :o
AFL website thinks Matthew Allen (123k M/F) could be a chance at a game this week.
Averaging 23 disposals, 5 marks and 5 tackles in the WAFL. Definitely worth a look given the slim forward options available.
Any chance @Eagles fans?
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Setterfield will come back in for the Blues this week?
will just message Boltsy and ask
Cheers ;D
You would think so now he has served his 2 match suspension
For what it’s worth I think he doesn’t come straight in.
Casboult out for Curnow is the only move I would be making. I’m not Bolton though so who knows.
It's a fair call, Blues have played well without him lol
Simpson and Newman could both be out though which may be his saving grace. Different positions though.
Yeah hopefully he get's back in on the back of that, don't like playing Parker (RDT)
Doesn't mean he has to play out of position, he can start on the bench and rotate through the areas they want him to.
Quote from: imjusflexin on April 30, 2019, 02:10:32 PM
Don't know why I brought in Lockhart. Looks like he might be dropped already.
My DEF bench now consists of Burgess & Lockhart :o
Same bench. I brought in Lockhart though not intending to ever have to play him or Burgess as cover. Will swing either Duursma or Moore back via DPP if Whitfield misses.
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Don't know why I brought in Lockhart. Looks like he might be dropped already.
My DEF bench now consists of Burgess & Lockhart :o
Same bench. I brought in Lockhart though not intending to ever have to play him or Burgess as cover. Will swing either Duursma or Moore back via DPP if Whitfield misses.
I brought Lockhart in too but I did with the aim of moving him to M11 next week once I move Gibbons on and that's still the plan
Any bench of Lockhart/Burgess/Young is super dicey lol
Is it too late to jump on Ross? Currently at 191k, if he scores 75 from here he'll go up at least another 120k in just four weeks
Quote from: imjusflexin on May 01, 2019, 02:44:20 PM
Is it too late to jump on Ross? Currently at 191k, if he scores 75 from here he'll go up at least another 120k in just four weeks
Thought about it for a second & then said no, plenty of other rookies on offer.
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Is it too late to jump on Ross? Currently at 191k, if he scores 75 from here he'll go up at least another 120k in just four weeks
Thought about it for a second & then said no, plenty of other rookies on offer.
Plenty of others?
Hayes looks like a classic case of drop a few 60s, get dropped and get stuck on your bench at 180k. Ross on the other hand seems safe as they come and considering I paid 190k for Sam Collins, I think it's a worthy price tag.
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Is it too late to jump on Ross? Currently at 191k, if he scores 75 from here he'll go up at least another 120k in just four weeks
Thought about it for a second & then said no, plenty of other rookies on offer.
Plenty of others?
Hayes looks like a classic case of drop a few 60s, get dropped and get stuck on your bench at 180k. Ross on the other hand seems safe as they come and considering I paid 190k for Sam Collins, I think it's a worthy price tag.
Interesting although 1st problem is it doesn't leave enough $ to upgrade this week. Not for me anyway.
2.7k ppl are trading him in and freako kinda suggested it in a tweet recently to lol
not that i am
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Is it too late to jump on Ross? Currently at 191k, if he scores 75 from here he'll go up at least another 120k in just four weeks
And if he puts up a 50 (like he was on before a huge final qtr last week) then you're stuffed
Ship has sailed
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Is it too late to jump on Ross? Currently at 191k, if he scores 75 from here he'll go up at least another 120k in just four weeks
Thought about it for a second & then said no, plenty of other rookies on offer.
Plenty of others?
Hayes looks like a classic case of drop a few 60s, get dropped and get stuck on your bench at 180k. Ross on the other hand seems safe as they come and considering I paid 190k for Sam Collins, I think it's a worthy price tag.
At the end of the day there will be more Ross type scenarios who are cheaper, Hately, Answerth, Allen just a few who might come into contention. Aim should be money in the bank, not money on the bench. At this point I'm aiming for an upgrade every week for the next 3. There's also only so many many rookies you can cull.
Pass from me also at this stage the extra 70k that will be used in downgrading to 120k rookies gives me extra for that prem. eg the difference between Laird or Rich as an example.
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Is it too late to jump on Ross? Currently at 191k, if he scores 75 from here he'll go up at least another 120k in just four weeks
Thought about it for a second & then said no, plenty of other rookies on offer.
Plenty of others?
Hayes looks like a classic case of drop a few 60s, get dropped and get stuck on your bench at 180k. Ross on the other hand seems safe as they come and considering I paid 190k for Sam Collins, I think it's a worthy price tag.
At the end of the day there will be more Ross type scenarios who are cheaper, Hately, Answerth, Allen just a few who might come into contention. Aim should be money in the bank, not money on the bench. At this point I'm aiming for an upgrade every week for the next 3. There's also only so many many rookies you can cull.
Yep. Ross has been excellent thus far & well done if you got him & I don't think many of us are particularly enamoured with Hayes either but I need a downgrade he appears the best on offer so it is what it is.
I suppose first & foremost I hope Hayes gets named.
What's happening with the 2 freo boys Valente and Bewley? We're super popular during the pre season but haven't heard a word about them since the season started. Are they doing much in the WAFL and just unlucky Freo are playing well?
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What's happening with the 2 freo boys Valente and Bewley? We're super popular during the pre season but haven't heard a word about them since the season started. Are they doing much in the WAFL and just unlucky Freo are playing well?
Not sure about Bewley but I think Valente had a setback, groin I reckon. Both are playing WAFL atm I think. Last I looked they got reasonable numbers. Tom North I think it is is also getting good numbers.
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What's happening with the 2 freo boys Valente and Bewley? We're super popular during the pre season but haven't heard a word about them since the season started. Are they doing much in the WAFL and just unlucky Freo are playing well?
Not sure about Bewley but I think Valente had a setback, groin I reckon. Both are playing WAFL atm I think. Last I looked they got reasonable numbers. Tom North I think it is is also getting good numbers.
Freo is playing well so hard to break-in.
Tom North is getting noticed but Blakely is not too far away from playing so will get priority IMO
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What's happening with the 2 freo boys Valente and Bewley? We're super popular during the pre season but haven't heard a word about them since the season started. Are they doing much in the WAFL and just unlucky Freo are playing well?
Not sure about Bewley but I think Valente had a setback, groin I reckon. Both are playing WAFL atm I think. Last I looked they got reasonable numbers. Tom North I think it is is also getting good numbers.
Freo is playing well so hard to break-in.
Tom North is getting noticed but Blakely is not too far away from playing so will get priority IMO
The thing I don't want to happen is them to play late in the year when downgrades aren't needed and just ruins them for next year lol
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What's happening with the 2 freo boys Valente and Bewley? We're super popular during the pre season but haven't heard a word about them since the season started. Are they doing much in the WAFL and just unlucky Freo are playing well?
Not sure about Bewley but I think Valente had a setback, groin I reckon. Both are playing WAFL atm I think. Last I looked they got reasonable numbers. Tom North I think it is is also getting good numbers.
Freo is playing well so hard to break-in.
Tom North is getting noticed but Blakely is not too far away from playing so will get priority IMO
The thing I don't want to happen is them to play late in the year when downgrades aren't needed and just ruins them for next year lol
A round 10 debut and then holding their spot would be perfect ;)
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What's happening with the 2 freo boys Valente and Bewley? We're super popular during the pre season but haven't heard a word about them since the season started. Are they doing much in the WAFL and just unlucky Freo are playing well?
Not sure about Bewley but I think Valente had a setback, groin I reckon. Both are playing WAFL atm I think. Last I looked they got reasonable numbers. Tom North I think it is is also getting good numbers.
Freo is playing well so hard to break-in.
Tom North is getting noticed but Blakely is not too far away from playing so will get priority IMO
The thing I don't want to happen is them to play late in the year when downgrades aren't needed and just ruins them for next year lol
A round 10 debut and then holding their spot would be perfect ;)
Sounds good to me!
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What's happening with the 2 freo boys Valente and Bewley? We're super popular during the pre season but haven't heard a word about them since the season started. Are they doing much in the WAFL and just unlucky Freo are playing well?
Not sure about Bewley but I think Valente had a setback, groin I reckon. Both are playing WAFL atm I think. Last I looked they got reasonable numbers. Tom North I think it is is also getting good numbers.
Freo is playing well so hard to break-in.
Tom North is getting noticed but Blakely is not too far away from playing so will get priority IMO
The thing I don't want to happen is them to play late in the year when downgrades aren't needed and just ruins them for next year lol
A round 10 debut and then holding their spot would be perfect ;)
Sounds good to me!
For sure - These that get played in the last 5/6 rounds really get priced out of rookie prices for next year,
Hey guys
Which Rook has best potential of keeping their spot Lewis Young or Noah Answorth
I know Answorth has only played one game and it’d probably be smarter to wait another week but I need to make a downgrade trade this week so is it worth the risk?
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Hey guys
Which Rook has best potential of keeping their spot Lewis Young or Noah Answorth
I know Answorth has only played one game and it’d probably be smarter to wait another week but I need to make a downgrade trade this week so is it worth the risk?
Too hard to tell at this stage - just need to wait for teams tonight and see what happens
If Zac Bailey and anyone else returns, and Answerth holds his spot than I would think that's a good sign
Young just doesn't seem to have the scoring ability so I'd likely avoid him, unless he is your D8 and you have a solid D7 like Clark/Scrim/Wilkie etc
I reckon we could be in for a few surprises tonight so I'm hoping team news will be good to us
Does Rotham get a run? I've always said it would only be if one our backs got injured, but will Simmo drop Cole? Not too sure he would but it's not completely out of the question (JS would still be super shaky even if he does come in)
Darragh Joyce is another who could get another call up for the Saints
Hately?
Dunno, reckon we could get a few surprises tonight
Liked the look of Nick Larkey from NM last Friday night
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I reckon we could be in for a few surprises tonight so I'm hoping team news will be good to us
Does Rotham get a run? I've always said it would only be if one our backs got injured, but will Simmo drop Cole? Not too sure he would but it's not completely out of the question (JS would still be super shaky even if he does come in)
Darragh Joyce is another who could get another call up for the Saints
Hately?
Dunno, reckon we could get a few surprises tonight
Definately will be interesting to see the teams. The first 2 names I would like to see are Conigs & Hayes. Sparrow may get a call up to replace Viney & I am sort of hoping Sam Wicks may get a look in at the Swans at the expense of Ronke.
I'm just hoping the Dees don't drop Lockhart. Been regretting picking him over Ross/Baker last week and will only regret it more if he's dropped.
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I'm just hoping the Dees don't drop Lockhart. Been regretting picking him over Ross/Baker last week and will only regret it more if he's dropped.
True. That's another name I would like to see.
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I'm just hoping the Dees don't drop Lockhart. Been regretting picking him over Ross/Baker last week and will only regret it more if he's dropped.
I panic traded him in last week due to the spread out games. Convinced ever since it was the wrong decision, hoping he can prove me wrong :-\
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I'm just hoping the Dees don't drop Lockhart. Been regretting picking him over Ross/Baker last week and will only regret it more if he's dropped.
I panic traded him in last week due to the spread out games. Convinced ever since it was the wrong decision, hoping he can prove me wrong :-\
Surely you knew he wouldn't be a good cow? I picked him too, but expecting him to provide DPP and loop purposes only. Any cash he makes is just a bonus
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I'm just hoping the Dees don't drop Lockhart. Been regretting picking him over Ross/Baker last week and will only regret it more if he's dropped.
I panic traded him in last week due to the spread out games. Convinced ever since it was the wrong decision, hoping he can prove me wrong :-\
Surely you knew he wouldn't be a good cow? I picked him too, but expecting him to provide DPP and loop purposes only. Any cash he makes is just a bonus
I knew he'd be bad but already got Burgess down back not playing and, with Moore playing the first match for the round, my cover is looking real shaky
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I'm just hoping the Dees don't drop Lockhart. Been regretting picking him over Ross/Baker last week and will only regret it more if he's dropped.
I panic traded him in last week due to the spread out games. Convinced ever since it was the wrong decision, hoping he can prove me wrong :-\
Surely you knew he wouldn't be a good cow? I picked him too, but expecting him to provide DPP and loop purposes only. Any cash he makes is just a bonus
I knew he'd be bad but already got Burgess down back not playing and, with Moore playing the first match for the round, my cover is looking real shaky
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Damn, yeah Burgess Lockhart is a horrible bench combo. I actually traded in Lockhart but then upgrade Burgess at the same time because I didn't want to have them as a bench
Hopefully he plays this week, and hopefully you can upgrade your defence and move Burg fwd or upgrade him
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I'm just hoping the Dees don't drop Lockhart. Been regretting picking him over Ross/Baker last week and will only regret it more if he's dropped.
I panic traded him in last week due to the spread out games. Convinced ever since it was the wrong decision, hoping he can prove me wrong :-\
Surely you knew he wouldn't be a good cow? I picked him too, but expecting him to provide DPP and loop purposes only. Any cash he makes is just a bonus
I knew he'd be bad but already got Burgess down back not playing and, with Moore playing the first match for the round, my cover is looking real shaky
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Damn, yeah Burgess Lockhart is a horrible bench combo. I actually traded in Lockhart but then upgrade Burgess at the same time because I didn't want to have them as a bench
Hopefully he plays this week, and hopefully you can upgrade your defence and move Burg fwd or upgrade him
Hoping to get Answerth next week which will move Burgess forward but then I'm stuck with Burgess/Bines up there until I trade out ROB. Can't afford to trade out Burgess to anyone so just have to keep swinging players around and hoping...
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I'm just hoping the Dees don't drop Lockhart. Been regretting picking him over Ross/Baker last week and will only regret it more if he's dropped.
I panic traded him in last week due to the spread out games. Convinced ever since it was the wrong decision, hoping he can prove me wrong :-\
Surely you knew he wouldn't be a good cow? I picked him too, but expecting him to provide DPP and loop purposes only. Any cash he makes is just a bonus
Yeah I knew he wouldn't be the best money maker, but still not convinced the DPP/Loophole are beneficial enough. And like I said, it was 5 minutes before last week's game and I was making panic decisions ;)
Time will tell I guess.
Constable out again. Made his cash and been a good pick up but time maybe to move him on?
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Constable out again. Made his cash and been a good pick up but time maybe to move him on?
Dropped or injured?
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Constable out again. Made his cash and been a good pick up but time maybe to move him on?
Dropped.
Still a low BE. Will re-assess next week and use him to loophole.
Scrim (managed) is now coming out of my team before Collins.
No Scott in the 26 either.
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Constable out again. Made his cash and been a good pick up but time maybe to move him on?
Dropped.
Still a low BE. Will re-assess next week and use him to loophole.
Scrim (managed) is now coming out of my team before Collins.
No Scott in the 26 either.
Nathan Fyfe. Welcome.
Constable out is a strange one, omitted it says on the AFL site.
Might trade him down to Hayes instead of Atkins..
I'd be inclined to turn Constable into Josh Kelly
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 02, 2019, 07:55:28 PM
I'd be inclined to turn Constable into Josh Kelly
I also have Simpson (who I traded in last week injured) making a downgrade of him to Young/Answorth allows me to trade Constable to a premium gun mid. I am probably going to bring Fyfe in.
Definitely have to trade Constable now, Atkins still has a 25 BE so doesn't hurt too much. Will loop Hayes & Gibbons this week.
Crazy to consider bringing in Ross this week? Team feels a bit weak on the cash gen front having missed Ross, Stack and ROB. Currently holding onto Burgess, Lockhart, Scott, Bines and Balta who are making little to no coin. Its coming down to Hayes or Ross for me, and I'm wary of Hayes being another stuck on my bench. Is Ross good for 4 more weeks and another $100k+?
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Crazy to consider bringing in Ross this week? Team feels a bit weak on the cash gen front having missed Ross, Stack and ROB. Currently holding onto Burgess, Lockhart, Scott, Bines and Balta who are making little to no coin. Its coming down to Hayes or Ross for me, and I'm wary of Hayes being another stuck on my bench. Is Ross good for 4 more weeks and another $100k+?
I'm really not an advocate of picking players after their first price rise but Ross does seem a better candidate for an onfield role than Hayes, so if you need a plug & play guy for a few weeks then I can see the sense. I'll be picking Hayes personally, next week I'll be making a midfield upgrade so only have to field him once.
Any interest in Shai Bolton?
mitch cleary reporting that Stocker will play
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mitch cleary reporting that Stocker will play
Yep all the rumours are saying he will debut.
Phillips, Curnow, Stocker, Setterfield is the bench from what I am hearing.
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mitch cleary reporting that Stocker will play
Yep all the rumours are saying he will debut.
Phillips, Curnow, Stocker, Setterfield is the bench from what I am hearing.
That's good, wanting him from round 1 before all the reports came out about his poor tank. Hopefully that's improved and he can string some good games together. Perfect downgrade option in 2 weeks
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mitch cleary reporting that Stocker will play
Yep all the rumours are saying he will debut.
Phillips, Curnow, Stocker, Setterfield is the bench from what I am hearing.
That's good, wanting him from round 1 before all the reports came out about his poor tank. Hopefully that's improved and he can string some good games together. Perfect downgrade option in 2 weeks
From all reports he has been playing really well in the VFL and he has definitely put the hard yards in.
Shai Bolton anyone?
Current bench combo is J.Clarke and C.Burgess
I’m looking at moving on Clarke this weekend which rookie defender do we expect to have most chance of keeping his position, looking at L.Young or N.Answerth or anyone else??
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Current bench combo is J.Clarke and C.Burgess
I’m looking at moving on Clarke this weekend which rookie defender do we expect to have most chance of keeping his position, looking at L.Young or N.Answerth or anyone else??
I would wait until next week & get Answerth.
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Shai Bolton anyone?
why not? He should stay in the team as Jroo's replacement. Noted that Balta is still cheaper after three pay packets, lol
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Shai Bolton anyone?
why not? He should stay in the team as Jroo's replacement. Noted that Balta is still cheaper after three pay packets, lol
lol good 'ol Balta. What I am not laughing about is if I go Petrol > Answerth next week (via Burgess) The Balt will be on field. There's nothing funny about that! If so, hopefully just the one week & ROB should be ripe enough.
I have enough cash to do double upgrade to Kelly (or Daniel) and Fyfe or is Hayes a must have?
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I have enough cash to do double upgrade to Kelly (or Daniel) and Fyfe or is Hayes a must have?
Certainly not a must
Go for the double upgrade
Plenty of cows to double downgrade next week
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I have enough cash to do double upgrade to Kelly (or Daniel) and Fyfe or is Hayes a must have?
Certainly not a must
Go for the double upgrade
Plenty of cows to double downgrade next week
Thanks RD
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I have enough cash to do double upgrade to Kelly (or Daniel) and Fyfe or is Hayes a must have?
Certainly not a must
Go for the double upgrade
Plenty of cows to double downgrade next week
Thanks RD
Yep. Solid call from RD. Hayes is a must unless you are in a position to double upgrade. Not many in that position.
moore might be a option to
Good game from Lockhart. Spewing I can’t loophole him, as have Whitfield on the pine and GWS played at the same time. :'(
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Good game from Lockhart. Spewing I can’t loophole him, as have Whitfield on the pine and GWS played at the same time. :'(
Yep, stepped up as coverage for Whitfield. That score will mean he should make a bit of cash.
Watch that cash gen pump now :)
Double Upgrade week for many coming up.
Two games...
Noah Answerth 117k Def/Mid
Nick Larkey 123k Fwd Scores of 75 & 40
Joshua Corbett 123k Fwd Scores of 55 & 59
Jackson Hately 148k Mid Scores of 95 & 85
Darragh Joyce 123k Def Scores of 67 & 60
Dylan Moore 123k Fwd Scores of 40 & 74
One game...
Declan Keilty 123k Def Score 40
Liam Stocker 126k Mid plays today.
Jonathan Marsh 163k Def Score 56
Isaac Cumming 173k Def Score 37
Answerth looks a monty to come into my team with scores of 69 & 67, DPP link with Lockhart/ Duursma. Probably trading Atkins.
One of Corbett/ Larkey is likely to be my other trade for one of Parker/Petrucelle.
Hately tempting but JS the worry, still not sure if I'll take the plunge. Answerth locked, perfect trade in for Duursma.
Hately comes in for me next week if he is named. Perfect M8 for now.
Answorth looks pretty good as well. Could come in for Wilkie.
Going to the game today so will watch Larkey for this week and Stocker for next.
Hately clearly the pick of the bunch but I'll probably pass - just like Rotham he's only going to play due to injuries - JS is just too dicey I think
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Hately clearly the pick of the bunch but I'll probably pass - just like Rotham he's only going to play due to injuries - JS is just too dicey I think
This could be a big problem over the bye period, I reckon every rookie selection from here needs to be guys with decent long term viability. There's some chance Hately squeezes in 3 price rises leading up to the bye but there's also a chance he gets dropped.
Watched Answerth closely in our game, was surprised he got 72. Made some big errors, Papley caught him out twice in the third and got Sydney back into it.
Reckon he needs more time in the NEAFL to hone his craft and could be dropped this week.
Quote from: SilverLion on May 05, 2019, 01:26:59 PM
Watched Answerth closely in our game, was surprised he got 72. Made some big errors, Papley caught him out twice in the third and got Sydney back into it.
Reckon he needs more time in the NEAFL to hone his craft and could be dropped this week.
Answerth JS is a worry. Bailey is due back. One bad game?
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Watched Answerth closely in our game, was surprised he got 72. Made some big errors, Papley caught him out twice in the third and got Sydney back into it.
Reckon he needs more time in the NEAFL to hone his craft and could be dropped this week.
Answerth JS is a worry. Bailey is due back. One bad game?
Yeah if Bailey wasn't available he would probably get another chance, but yeah would be surprised if he didn't come in for him.
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Watched Answerth closely in our game, was surprised he got 72. Made some big errors, Papley caught him out twice in the third and got Sydney back into it.
Reckon he needs more time in the NEAFL to hone his craft and could be dropped this week.
Answerth JS is a worry. Bailey is due back. One bad game?
Yeah if Bailey wasn't available he would probably get another chance, but yeah would be surprised if he didn't come in for him.
Think it's pretty remote that there would be too many changes, winning almost guarantees a place. Only 1 clanger for Answerth, 3 free kicks for, none against.
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Watched Answerth closely in our game, was surprised he got 72. Made some big errors, Papley caught him out twice in the third and got Sydney back into it.
Reckon he needs more time in the NEAFL to hone his craft and could be dropped this week.
Answerth JS is a worry. Bailey is due back. One bad game?
Yeah if Bailey wasn't available he would probably get another chance, but yeah would be surprised if he didn't come in for him.
Think it's pretty remote that there would be too many changes, winning almost guarantees a place. Only 1 clanger for Answerth, 3 free kicks for, none against.
Didn't say he gave away frees, was just caught out of position in a couple of key moments. I'm giving you a supporter's POV, rather than an SC coach's (Ofc I'd love him to hold his spot for SC ;)). Last one in, first one out is generally how it goes and if Bailey's fit he comes in.
FWIW, I think we should drop Rayner too as he's been pretty ordinary all year, but doubt we will.
Who do I want? Hately and Answerth
Who will I likely get? Corbett and Joyce
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Who do I want? Hately and Answerth
Who will I likely get? Corbett and Joyce
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Watched Answerth closely in our game, was surprised he got 72. Made some big errors, Papley caught him out twice in the third and got Sydney back into it.
Reckon he needs more time in the NEAFL to hone his craft and could be dropped this week.
Answerth JS is a worry. Bailey is due back. One bad game?
Yeah if Bailey wasn't available he would probably get another chance, but yeah would be surprised if he didn't come in for him.
Think it's pretty remote that there would be too many changes, winning almost guarantees a place. Only 1 clanger for Answerth, 3 free kicks for, none against.
Didn't say he gave away frees, was just caught out of position in a couple of key moments. I'm giving you a supporter's POV, rather than an SC coach's (Ofc I'd love him to hold his spot for SC ;)). Last one in, first one out is generally how it goes and if Bailey's fit he comes in.
FWIW, I think we should drop Rayner too as he's been pretty ordinary all year, but doubt we will.
I saw the game too & I thought the positives definitely outweighed the negatives, commentators also agreed that he acquitted himself well. Will pick him 100% if named.
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Watched Answerth closely in our game, was surprised he got 72. Made some big errors, Papley caught him out twice in the third and got Sydney back into it.
Reckon he needs more time in the NEAFL to hone his craft and could be dropped this week.
Answerth JS is a worry. Bailey is due back. One bad game?
Yeah if Bailey wasn't available he would probably get another chance, but yeah would be surprised if he didn't come in for him.
Think it's pretty remote that there would be too many changes, winning almost guarantees a place. Only 1 clanger for Answerth, 3 free kicks for, none against.
Didn't say he gave away frees, was just caught out of position in a couple of key moments. I'm giving you a supporter's POV, rather than an SC coach's (Ofc I'd love him to hold his spot for SC ;)). Last one in, first one out is generally how it goes and if Bailey's fit he comes in.
FWIW, I think we should drop Rayner too as he's been pretty ordinary all year, but doubt we will.
I saw the game too & I thought the positives definitely outweighed the negatives, commentators also agreed that he acquitted himself well. Will pick him 100% if named.
I was at the game too and know not the coach but I think Witherden also needs a spell in NEAFL. Last year his kicks were spot on finding targets whereas this year he seems to be second guessing a lot and getting ball turned over.
Squizzy still not taking the opportunity so he could go for Bailey instead.
If Hipwood is suspended (and do not think he will be but who knows with the MRP) Wooller will definitely come in. If form shown in NEAFL is carried over real pressure will be put on McStay and Andrews.
Andrews would be pretty stiff to be suspended given he didn't play :P
Lester out for Harris
Matho/Keays in for Squizz, Rayner, whoever
Bailey doesn't demand a spot back in. Answerth safe, playing well.
Previous posts make sense to me
Corbett and Answerth coming in this week
probably corbett and answerth if hately not playing. if hately playing I will bring him more than likely and pray he plays through the byes. so far missed out on ross, stack, baker, B Smith by second guessing JS issues. going to hurt big time at next double down grade.
Hately and Answorth are coming in for me this week. Best scoring ability but worst job security...I’m taking the risk.
May i ask why corbett? Scoring is av. Good
JS i understand but slow cash gen
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May i ask why corbett? Scoring is av. Good
JS i understand but slow cash gen
2 reasons working together
1) Position, forward rookies are few and far between.
2) Topped rookies. Petro is topped and a 30~ will see him start to bleed. Drew also probably has 1 left, if that.
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May i ask why corbett? Scoring is av. Good
JS i understand but slow cash gen
2 reasons working together
1) Position, forward rookies are few and far between.
2) Topped rookies. Petro is topped and a 30~ will see him start to bleed. Drew also probably has 1 left, if that.
Understandable i would look to upgrade those players grab rookies elsrwhere
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May i ask why corbett? Scoring is av. Good
JS i understand but slow cash gen
2 reasons working together
1) Position, forward rookies are few and far between.
2) Topped rookies. Petro is topped and a 30~ will see him start to bleed. Drew also probably has 1 left, if that.
I'm probably gonna avoid downgrading forwards altogether if I can help it. Noah and Parker will probably last the season In my team as bench/loophole options. Petrol, setterfield and drew will all be traded as upgrades.
So I just had a look at Reilly O'Brien's cash projections & looks like he'll be priced around the 430k mark in two weeks, that would be parity with Hoff (if not a little extra change), 140k off Lloyd & 210k off Neale. Plenty of good options to look forward to.
So I'm thinking I will be going a double downgrade two weeks in a row for the first time ever, as I dont like any of the rookies for next week or the week after and dont have enough cash generation at the moment (missed ROB).
Means im going to go into this coming week with 550k+ sitting in the bank, but should allow me to go 2 up next week and 1 up 1 down the week after.
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So I just had a look at Reilly O'Brien's cash projections & looks like he'll be priced around the 430k mark in two weeks, that would be parity with Hoff (if not a little extra change), 140k off Lloyd & 210k off Neale. Plenty of good options to look forward to.
If Hoff is $430k in two weeks that means he has had a couple of scores in the 60-70’s.. wouldn’t make me confident trading him in
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So I just had a look at Reilly O'Brien's cash projections & looks like he'll be priced around the 430k mark in two weeks, that would be parity with Hoff (if not a little extra change), 140k off Lloyd & 210k off Neale. Plenty of good options to look forward to.
If Hoff is $430k in two weeks that means he has had a couple of scores in the 60-70’s.. wouldn’t make me confident trading him in
I'm more concerned about his role & for now it appears he has a licence to roam, only a matter of time before he starts clicking. In saying that there's no rush, there's clearly others who have a more pressing case.
I'm going to jinx it but:
Petrucelle is asking to be traded.
He's had 1 score over his BE (the 100)... which so happens to be the score cycling out of his pricing this week.
And... he needed 5 goals to get that 100. That ain't happening again.
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I'm going to jinx it but:
Petrucelle is asking to be traded.
He's had 1 score over his BE (the 100)... which so happens to be the score cycling out of his pricing this week.
And... he needed 5 goals to get that 100. That ain't happening again.
All 30s, 40s and 50s apart from that 5 goal haul. Unless he scores another big one he's done.
I have considered keeping him simply due to his R13 bye. He could be used to play in R12 and then traded the week after for one of: Boak, Marshall, Daniel, Westhoff, Billings, Dunkley, Newnes... who would've had their bye. However, that's still some time off and there's no guarantee that it would play out to plan.
I have still Marshall too and he has a low BE so all things considered Petruccelle is goneski.
Petruccelle and Gibbons have both just hit max value after a nice price rise, but now they've hit the wall which is exactly why I am trading them both out this week
Managed to squeeze a lot more out of them than I expected, and it feels good moving them on lol because outside of 1 off performances they're both horrible for SC haha
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Petruccelle and Gibbons have both just hit max value after a nice price rise, but now they've hit the wall which is exactly why I am trading them both out this week
Managed to squeeze a lot more out of them than I expected, and it feels good moving them on lol because outside of 1 off performances they're both horrible for SC haha
Of the two, Gibbons is the one with a shadow of a chance to actually graze a little more.
His big scoring week came when he played more midfield rather than forward. It's possible with how poorly the Blues are going there's another shake up on the horizon. Who knows.
Corbett and Answerth will be the main popular rookies this week, but what are people's thoughts on Corbett and Dylan Moore as alternatives to Corbett?
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Corbett and Answerth will be the main popular rookies this week, but what are people's thoughts on Corbett and Dylan Moore as alternatives to Corbett?
Corbett is the best alternative to Corbett. Should score very similar :D
Moore I’m not sold on, and the same for Larkey, so still looking at Corbett if I’m doing a double down
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Corbett and Answerth will be the main popular rookies this week, but what are people's thoughts on Corbett and Dylan Moore as alternatives to Corbett?
Corbett is the best alternative to Corbett. Should score very similar :D
Moore I’m not sold on, and the same for Larkey, so still looking at Corbett if I’m doing a double down
Corbett would have much better JS than the other two, so he's the clear choice imo
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Corbett and Answerth will be the main popular rookies this week, but what are people's thoughts on Corbett and Dylan Moore as alternatives to Corbett?
Corbett is the best alternative to Corbett. Should score very similar :D
Moore I’m not sold on, and the same for Larkey, so still looking at Corbett if I’m doing a double down
Corbett would have much better JS than the other two, so he's the clear choice imo
Hah yeah meant Larkey. Cheers guys, yep pretty much agree it's Corbett>Moore>Larkey imo.
have to field 2 of Answerth, Duursma and Scrimshaw. Go
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have to field 2 of Answerth, Duursma and Scrimshaw. Go
The way they've been going, I'd have thought Scrim to the bench. FWIW, I'm likely fielding Answerth and Duursma. I don't have a Scrim to bench. Just a dead Burgess and a hobbling old man Simpson!
Can someone please let me know how much Corbett is expected to go up vs Fyfe
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Can someone please let me know how much Corbett is expected to go up vs Fyfe
Corbett with a score oif 57 will go up 44k.
Fyfe with a score of 119 will only go up 14k
Thanks Ringo
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Can someone please let me know how much Corbett is expected to go up vs Fyfe
Corbett with a score oif 57 will go up 44k.
Fyfe with a score of 119 will only go up 14k
Isn't Corbett scoring terribly?
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Isn't Corbett scoring terribly?
Mature age and JS is much better than any other rookies available this week
Yeah, but do you really want to have to field him and his 50 points? It depends who you're trading out, but I'd almost rather hold the other trade than grab Corbett
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Yeah, but do you really want to have to field him and his 50 points? It depends who you're trading out, but I'd almost rather hold the other trade than grab Corbett
It’s upgrade season. You don’t want to be a premo behind the pack.
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It’s upgrade season. You don’t want to be a premo behind the pack.
You also don't want to risk fielding a crappy rookie and losing points either. If he is sitting at forward 8 go for it, but if you need him at F6/F7 it has to be a hard pass
Some new rookies before the bye rounds would help the cause, but there's SFA atm.
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Some new rookies before the bye rounds would help the cause, but there's SFA atm.
Yeah the bunch this week aren't exactly superstars but you look ahead and there's tumbleweed rolling in the desert.
yeah i wouldn't be too worried about poor rookie scores. gotta get that cash for upgrades. more important.
I actually don’t think his scoring will be to bad, think he will make $150k which is what you want from a rookie. Should average 55-60 with hopefully a large score in there.
With Brayden Ham looking like a dud I'm back to the drawing board for next week, possibly go Hately if he gets a recall.
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With Brayden Ham looking like a dud I'm back to the drawing board for next week, possibly go Hately if he gets a recall.
If Stocker gets named on the bubble he will do for M10/M11. Gibbons > Stocker for me at this very early stage I reckon.
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With Brayden Ham looking like a dud I'm back to the drawing board for next week, possibly go Hately if he gets a recall.
If Stocker gets named on the bubble he will do for M10/M11. Gibbons > Stocker for me at this very early stage I reckon.
Does he hold his spot when Simmo and Newman are back? Wouldn't be betting on it.
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With Brayden Ham looking like a dud I'm back to the drawing board for next week, possibly go Hately if he gets a recall.
If Stocker gets named on the bubble he will do for M10/M11. Gibbons > Stocker for me at this very early stage I reckon.
Does he hold his spot when Simmo and Newman are back? Wouldn't be betting on it.
Good point. Didn't even think of that. Someone has to go & he would be right in the firing line. Hmmm.
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With Brayden Ham looking like a dud I'm back to the drawing board for next week, possibly go Hately if he gets a recall.
If Stocker gets named on the bubble he will do for M10/M11. Gibbons > Stocker for me at this very early stage I reckon.
Stocker looks like a fish out of water, sorry Blues supporters but not a fan (and wasn't impressed by that trade that SOS engineered). For me it has to be Hately, risky in the extreme but a couple of price rises & he's done his job.
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With Brayden Ham looking like a dud I'm back to the drawing board for next week, possibly go Hately if he gets a recall.
If Stocker gets named on the bubble he will do for M10/M11. Gibbons > Stocker for me at this very early stage I reckon.
Stocker looks like a fish out of water, sorry Blues supporters but not a fan (and wasn't impressed by that trade that SOS engineered). For me it has to be Hately, risky in the extreme but a couple of price rises & he's done his job.
I didn't see the game but I did see his SC score. It was only one game though. Have seen Hately. Looks a composed jet but with Whit to still come back in? I suppose if named you have to take him.
Lol so you write-off an 18 year old off after his 1st game. Nice one bud
Quote from: smashbox on May 11, 2019, 02:30:18 PM
Lol so you write-off an 18 year old off after his 1st game. Nice one bud
Kade Simpson didn’t touch the ball in his first 3 AFL games. Since then he’s always been on my ‘never again’ list. This year it’s finally starting to pay off... ;D
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Lol so you write-off an 18 year old off after his 1st game. Nice one bud
As someone who spends a lot of time watching the juniors I was pretty shocked to see Carlton offloading what is almost certain to be a top 4 pick. Stocker won a Morrish medal but had zero exposure to state football, his form in TAC finals was also pedestrian. Hugely risky & we're only a third of the way into the season. If the ladder remains roughly the same then it will be very hard to justify.
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Lol so you write-off an 18 year old off after his 1st game. Nice one bud
Kade Simpson didn’t touch the ball in his first 3 AFL games. Since then he’s always been on my ‘never again’ list. This year it’s finally starting to pay off... ;D
mmm irony...... love it. "be thee not quick to judge lest you be judged"
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With Brayden Ham looking like a dud I'm back to the drawing board for next week, possibly go Hately if he gets a recall.
If Stocker gets named on the bubble he will do for M10/M11. Gibbons > Stocker for me at this very early stage I reckon.
Stocker looks like a fish out of water, sorry Blues supporters but not a fan (and wasn't impressed by that trade that SOS engineered). For me it has to be Hately, risky in the extreme but a couple of price rises & he's done his job.
I didn't see the game but I did see his SC score. It was only one game though. Have seen Hately. Looks a composed jet but with Whit to still come back in? I suppose if named you have to take him.
Hately will make a quick 140k, that's the appeal, even 1 pay rise puts him in tradeable territory. Probably needs another injury but you never know.
As for Stocker, would need to improve out of sight, didn't see anything that screamed A grade talent but I suppose he gets another opportunity to show his wares.
Drews b/e was 58 and he scored 59 so i think he has made as much as he can. But with all the injuries to port mids he could have a blinder and get the ball rolling again
Wanna trade all of Moore, Walsh, Drew, Duursma and Parker this week, so will be forced to lose cash on some of them. There's also no rookies worth getting in :(
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Wanna trade all of Moore, Walsh, Drew, Duursma and Parker this week, so will be forced to lose cash on some of them. There's also no rookies worth getting in :(
Parker and Walsh are the two I'm moving on.
Parker's 25 will stop cash generation in it's tracks so he's cooked.
Walsh will drop in value marginally this week and at 440k+ his coin allows significant quality to come in.
Moore, Drew and Duursma can wait. They are all decent enough to field, shouldn't lose too much value, if any and have other things going for them such as DPP or mid time.
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Wanna trade all of Moore, Walsh, Drew, Duursma and Parker this week, so will be forced to lose cash on some of them. There's also no rookies worth getting in :(
Parker and Walsh are the two I'm moving on.
Parker's 25 will stop cash generation in it's tracks so he's cooked.
Walsh will drop in value marginally this week and at 440k+ his coin allows significant quality to come in.
Moore, Drew and Duursma can wait. They are all decent enough to field, shouldn't lose too much value, if any and have other things going for them such as DPP or mid time.
Who would you move on next out of that lot after Walsh mate?
I have $411,900 in the kitty and am going to go Walsh > Fyfe with my first trade and either Duursma > Hurn, Moore > Dunkley\T.Kelly or Drew > Dunkley\T.Kelly.
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Wanna trade all of Moore, Walsh, Drew, Duursma and Parker this week, so will be forced to lose cash on some of them. There's also no rookies worth getting in :(
Parker and Walsh are the two I'm moving on.
Parker's 25 will stop cash generation in it's tracks so he's cooked.
Walsh will drop in value marginally this week and at 440k+ his coin allows significant quality to come in.
Moore, Drew and Duursma can wait. They are all decent enough to field, shouldn't lose too much value, if any and have other things going for them such as DPP or mid time.
Who would you move on next out of that lot after Walsh mate?
I have $411,900 in the kitty and am going to go Walsh > Fyfe with my first trade and either Duursma > Hurn, Moore > Dunkley\T.Kelly or Drew > Dunkley\T.Kelly.
Walsh to Fyfe and Duursma to Hurn for sure
Moore's DPP is super handy being able to trade def to fwd and vice versa, and Drew should do enough while Wines is still out
So back to the topic of downgrades, it's basically Ham, Stocker & maybe Hately (although I'm not holding my breath). Really hope we get to see Bewley or McHenry next week, that could be my saving grace.
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Wanna trade all of Moore, Walsh, Drew, Duursma and Parker this week, so will be forced to lose cash on some of them. There's also no rookies worth getting in :(
Parker and Walsh are the two I'm moving on.
Parker's 25 will stop cash generation in it's tracks so he's cooked.
Walsh will drop in value marginally this week and at 440k+ his coin allows significant quality to come in.
Moore, Drew and Duursma can wait. They are all decent enough to field, shouldn't lose too much value, if any and have other things going for them such as DPP or mid time.
Who would you move on next out of that lot after Walsh mate?
I have $411,900 in the kitty and am going to go Walsh > Fyfe with my first trade and either Duursma > Hurn, Moore > Dunkley\T.Kelly or Drew > Dunkley\T.Kelly.
Walsh to Fyfe and Duursma to Hurn for sure
Moore's DPP is super handy being able to trade def to fwd and vice versa, and Drew should do enough while Wines is still out
Duursma to Hurn is an impressive upgrade in the form hes in. I do that too.
Quote from: Bully on May 12, 2019, 12:44:33 PM
So back to the topic of downgrades, it's basically Ham, Stocker & maybe Hately (although I'm not holding my breath). Really hope we get to see Bewley or McHenry next week, that could be my saving grace.
Bewley is who I'd like to see. None of Ham, Stocker or Hately (yeah right) appeal.
Quote from: Bully on May 12, 2019, 12:44:33 PM
So back to the topic of downgrades, it's basically Ham, Stocker & maybe Hately (although I'm not holding my breath). Really hope we get to see Bewley or McHenry next week, that could be my saving grace.
Rotham.... :P
Not considering Corbett anymore?
Quote from: Bully on May 12, 2019, 12:44:33 PM
So back to the topic of downgrades, it's basically Ham, Stocker & maybe Hately (although I'm not holding my breath). Really hope we get to see Bewley or McHenry next week, that could be my saving grace.
Yea the rookie stocks are looking very bare, could get ugly soon if those two don't show up.
Stocker is not worth it at all, shown nothing performance-wise, nothing scoring-wise, and will be out the moment Simmo/Newman are back.
Hately needs a medium-term injury to Kelly/Conigs/Taranto to play. The fact that he's not playing even with Whitfield still out is a big worry.
And all I know about Ham is that Basil made a terrible joke involving "taking the bacon" when he had a set shot.
Point is, none of them are valid options imo, and even though I stocked up with 700k, I'm still gonna need 1 downgrade in the next 3 weeks.
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So back to the topic of downgrades, it's basically Ham, Stocker & maybe Hately (although I'm not holding my breath). Really hope we get to see Bewley or McHenry next week, that could be my saving grace.
Yea the rookie stocks are looking very bare, could get ugly soon if those two don't show up.
Stocker is not worth it at all, shown nothing performance-wise, nothing scoring-wise, and will be out the moment Simmo/Newman are back.
Hately needs a medium-term injury to Kelly/Conigs/Taranto to play. The fact that he's not playing even with Whitfield still out is a big worry.
And all I know about Ham is that Basil made a terrible joke involving "taking the bacon" when he had a set shot.
Point is, none of them are valid options imo, and even though I stocked up with 700k, I'm still gonna need 1 downgrade in the next 3 weeks.
The problem is most of us already have a few dodgy rookies and its just too much risk have a bench full of spuds leading into the byes
For me its Balta, Scott and Young, don't want to add that list this early in the season
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So back to the topic of downgrades, it's basically Ham, Stocker & maybe Hately (although I'm not holding my breath). Really hope we get to see Bewley or McHenry next week, that could be my saving grace.
Rotham.... :P
Not considering Corbett anymore?
Still a possibility but means I have to field him for a week, will assess when the week is done.
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Quote from: Bully on May 12, 2019, 12:44:33 PM
So back to the topic of downgrades, it's basically Ham, Stocker & maybe Hately (although I'm not holding my breath). Really hope we get to see Bewley or McHenry next week, that could be my saving grace.
Yea the rookie stocks are looking very bare, could get ugly soon if those two don't show up.
Stocker is not worth it at all, shown nothing performance-wise, nothing scoring-wise, and will be out the moment Simmo/Newman are back.
Hately needs a medium-term injury to Kelly/Conigs/Taranto to play. The fact that he's not playing even with Whitfield still out is a big worry.
And all I know about Ham is that Basil made a terrible joke involving "taking the bacon" when he had a set shot.
Point is, none of them are valid options imo, and even though I stocked up with 700k, I'm still gonna need 1 downgrade in the next 3 weeks.
Might be time to get creative on the trade front, still have Whitfield to work with so might be able to swing something.
And this is why the double downgrade was the play this week imo
I'm not touching any of the current bubble boys - will upgrade this week then just have to wait for more rookies to pop up
Curtis Taylor in gives me hope for week after next... A M/F rook would be extremely handy!
Quote from: js19 on May 12, 2019, 01:56:19 PM
Curtis Taylor in gives me hope for week after next... A M/F rook would be extremely handy!
He's one I'd look at if named next week, just depends on what he coughs up this week.
Taylor getting near the ball, could be the go for Atkins.
Ladies and gentlemen. Noah Balta will have a negative BE next week.
That is all
Quote from: js19 on May 12, 2019, 08:46:40 PM
Ladies and gentlemen. Noah Balta will have a negative BE next week.
That is all
Is that a challenge? ;D
Quote from: js19 on May 12, 2019, 08:46:40 PM
Ladies and gentlemen. Noah Balta will have a negative BE next week.
That is all
Today confirmed my faith, with Nank possibly out he may even see more ruck time.
balta > walsh
Gunna have to grab Stocker this week for Atkins.
Atkins is bench cover, and right now I need more scoring power on field - not wasting a trade on Atkins to Stocker - will cop the cash loss and hold Atkins for now
Atkins will sit on my bench. As i have hayes and hopefully bailey scott cpmes back for north one day
Quote from: sammy123 on May 12, 2019, 10:17:13 PM
Atkins will sit on my bench. As i have hayes and hopefully bailey scott cpmes back for north one day
I am hopeful too on Scott although he was a great captain this week
Whose injury is worse, Ross or Atkins?
Ross with an ankle injury while Atkins with an hamstring tweak.
I will be trading one of them this week to T.Kelly\Dunkley.
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2019, 12:41:11 AM
Whose injury is worse, Ross or Atkins?
Ross with an ankle injury while Atkins with an hamstring tweak.
I will be trading one of them this week to T.Kelly\Dunkley.
Hammy 3-4, think Atkins has to go.
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2019, 12:42:24 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2019, 12:41:11 AM
Whose injury is worse, Ross or Atkins?
Ross with an ankle injury while Atkins with an hamstring tweak.
I will be trading one of them this week to T.Kelly\Dunkley.
Hammy 3-4, think Atkins has to go.
Atkins came back on and played out the game, so surely it's not that bad?
Ross was on crutches post-game so his outlook can't be very good.
So if Atkins only got a hamstring tweak then he should be good to play next week then?
Ross may miss a week or 2 as he was on crutches after Fyfe landed on his ankle.
Might struggle to get back into the team after that as Cotchin will be back.
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2019, 12:46:53 AM
So if Atkins only got a hamstring tweak then he should be good to play next week then?
Ross may miss a week or 2 as he was on crutches after Fyfe landed on his ankle.
Might struggle to get back into the team after that as Cotchin will be back.
He looked cooked, be very surprised if he played next week.
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2019, 12:51:13 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2019, 12:46:53 AM
So if Atkins only got a hamstring tweak then he should be good to play next week then?
Ross may miss a week or 2 as he was on crutches after Fyfe landed on his ankle.
Might struggle to get back into the team after that as Cotchin will be back.
He looked cooked, be very surprised if he played next week.
Guess that makes the decision easier then.
I still might trade out Atkins for Stocker\Hately (if picked) or that North mid\forward kid next week anyways.
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2019, 12:51:13 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 13, 2019, 12:46:53 AM
So if Atkins only got a hamstring tweak then he should be good to play next week then?
Ross may miss a week or 2 as he was on crutches after Fyfe landed on his ankle.
Might struggle to get back into the team after that as Cotchin will be back.
He looked cooked, be very surprised if he played next week.
Dimma already ruled Ross out in his post-match presser FWIW
Quote from: js19 on May 12, 2019, 08:46:40 PM
Ladies and gentlemen. Noah Balta will have a negative BE next week.
That is all
I fielded him this week.....
Menegola out, E on Parker and I thought, 'well, Balta can't score 16 again can he?' I am in shock
Hind been playing well in the 2's must be due for a call up
4 Goals & 29 touches for Patrick Naish in the reserves, given the injuries at Richmond he must also be close.
Anyone follow GC closely enough to detail Corbetts JS? Considering Drew to Corbett regardless of missing the first rise, given I've read people think his game time is locked. Plays weak teams during the byes too so might get some half okay scores if GC are playing decent.
Quote from: YoungGun on May 13, 2019, 11:24:54 AM
Anyone follow GC closely enough to detail Corbetts JS? Considering Drew to Corbett regardless of missing the first rise, given I've read people think his game time is locked. Plays weak teams during the byes too so might get some half okay scores if GC are playing decent.
He had a slow start to the season due to injury. Will be a slow burn though due to the way the Suns play at the moment but JS would be sound.
Quote from: YoungGun on May 13, 2019, 11:24:54 AM
Anyone follow GC closely enough to detail Corbetts JS? Considering Drew to Corbett regardless of missing the first rise, given I've read people think his game time is locked. Plays weak teams during the byes too so might get some half okay scores if GC are playing decent.
Surely you have other rookies to move before Drew? With Wines out now I'd keeping Drew until his bye I reckon
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Quote from: YoungGun on May 13, 2019, 11:24:54 AM
Anyone follow GC closely enough to detail Corbetts JS? Considering Drew to Corbett regardless of missing the first rise, given I've read people think his game time is locked. Plays weak teams during the byes too so might get some half okay scores if GC are playing decent.
Surely you have other rookies to move before Drew? With Wines out now I'd keeping Drew until his bye I reckon
Agree with this comment as well surely another player rather than Drew to downgrade.
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Anyone follow GC closely enough to detail Corbetts JS? Considering Drew to Corbett regardless of missing the first rise, given I've read people think his game time is locked. Plays weak teams during the byes too so might get some half okay scores if GC are playing decent.
Surely you have other rookies to move before Drew? With Wines out now I'd keeping Drew until his bye I reckon
Agree with this comment as well surely another player rather than Drew to downgrade.
options to go down are between drew, constable, stack, setterfield, baker. happy to keep baker as F6 until the byes which leaves the other 4 - of which setters is not ready to trade and constable/stack have great scoring upside and lower BE's than Drew?
In the hypothetical that I am definitely getting corbett this week, would you guys do constable stack or drew? the money from drew to corbett gives perfect amount to most likely be assured moore to lloyd next week.
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Anyone follow GC closely enough to detail Corbetts JS? Considering Drew to Corbett regardless of missing the first rise, given I've read people think his game time is locked. Plays weak teams during the byes too so might get some half okay scores if GC are playing decent.
Surely you have other rookies to move before Drew? With Wines out now I'd keeping Drew until his bye I reckon
Agree with this comment as well surely another player rather than Drew to downgrade.
options to go down are between drew, constable, stack, setterfield, baker. happy to keep baker as F6 until the byes which leaves the other 4 - of which setters is not ready to trade and constable/stack have great scoring upside and lower BE's than Drew?
In the hypothetical that I am definitely getting corbett this week, would you guys do constable stack or drew? the money from drew to corbett gives perfect amount to most likely be assured moore to lloyd next week.
Up to you but I would dice Constable. As we have seen on the fringe at Geelong and only getting gamres as late calls. Selwood must be close and if Ablett is not suspended would expect him to make way again.
Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
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Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
ROB to CCJ would be a nice move.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 13, 2019, 06:13:34 PM
Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
Reckon Soldo plays first
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Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
ROB to CCJ would be a nice move.
That would be gold, and perfect timing in two weeks. Can’t see it happening though.
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Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
ROB to CCJ would be a nice move.
That would be gold, and perfect timing in two weeks. Can’t see it happening though.
I hope Balta rucks one out and makes some cash! But at least he should get more ruck minutes even if Soldo comes in.
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Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
ROB to CCJ would be a nice move.
That would be gold, and perfect timing in two weeks. Can’t see it happening though.
I hope Balta rucks one out and makes some cash! But at least he should get more ruck minutes even if Soldo comes in.
This is a major silver lining, Balta scored 63 in a half once Nank left the field, could see him racing to 300k.
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Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
ROB to CCJ would be a nice move.
That would be gold, and perfect timing in two weeks. Can’t see it happening though.
I hope Balta rucks one out and makes some cash! But at least he should get more ruck minutes even if Soldo comes in.
This is a major silver lining, Balta scored 63 in a half once Nank left the field, could see him racing to 300k.
It’s a fickle game... Two scores of 50ish, and he’ll have made as much coin as Ross, Gibbons and Atkins
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Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
ROB to CCJ would be a nice move.
That would be gold, and perfect timing in two weeks. Can’t see it happening though.
I hope Balta rucks one out and makes some cash! But at least he should get more ruck minutes even if Soldo comes in.
This is a major silver lining, Balta scored 63 in a half once Nank left the field, could see him racing to 300k.
It’s a fickle game... Two scores of 50ish, and he’ll have made as much coin as Ross, Gibbons and Atkins
It's fickle but also requires patience, just look at how many people dumped him at the beginning.
Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2019, 07:49:12 PM
It's fickle but also requires patience, just look at how many people dumped him at the beginning.
Considering most people traded him to Pet/Parker/Miers they're miles ahead
Good reward for those who were stuck with him though
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It's fickle but also requires patience, just look at how many people dumped him at the beginning.
Considering most people traded him to Pet/Parker/Miers they're miles ahead
Good reward for those who were stuck with him though
Yes Fickle or......patience = (https://i.gyazo.com/039b0db4c40eb3a78ed69aa990eb68ec.gif) = luck :-X :-X :-X :-X
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Quote from: Bully on May 13, 2019, 07:49:12 PM
It's fickle but also requires patience, just look at how many people dumped him at the beginning.
Considering most people traded him to Pet/Parker/Miers they're miles ahead
Good reward for those who were stuck with him though
Debatable, don't think there's too much surplus there, Balta should hit 250k, Parker now a liability & Petrol sold off under 300k. Miers the clear winner but very few selected him. Need to also factor in the cost of a trade, that I think is becoming more apparent as we head into the bye rounds.
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Anyone follow GC closely enough to detail Corbetts JS? Considering Drew to Corbett regardless of missing the first rise, given I've read people think his game time is locked. Plays weak teams during the byes too so might get some half okay scores if GC are playing decent.
Surely you have other rookies to move before Drew? With Wines out now I'd keeping Drew until his bye I reckon
Agree with this comment as well surely another player rather than Drew to downgrade.
options to go down are between drew, constable, stack, setterfield, baker. happy to keep baker as F6 until the byes which leaves the other 4 - of which setters is not ready to trade and constable/stack have great scoring upside and lower BE's than Drew?
In the hypothetical that I am definitely getting corbett this week, would you guys do constable stack or drew? the money from drew to corbett gives perfect amount to most likely be assured moore to lloyd next week.
Up to you but I would dice Constable. As we have seen on the fringe at Geelong and only getting gamres as late calls. Selwood must be close and if Ablett is not suspended would expect him to make way again.
Agreed if constable is out again that makes it tough and maybe he can go to also gain a MF link. Was hoping ablett was going to be out.
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Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
ROB to CCJ would be a nice move.
That would be gold, and perfect timing in two weeks. Can’t see it happening though.
I hope Balta rucks one out and makes some cash! But at least he should get more ruck minutes even if Soldo comes in.
Balta won't ruck one out. Hawthorn are playing 2 genuine rucks, Richmond can't go in with none. Soldo has to come in and Balta will play his normal role.
Riley Collier-Dawkins might be a chance to debut this week with Ross sidelined. Collier-Dawkins was an EMG last round and is averaging 16 disposals, 82 #SuperCoach and 61 #AFLFantasy points.
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Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
ROB to CCJ would be a nice move.
That would be gold, and perfect timing in two weeks. Can’t see it happening though.
I hope Balta rucks one out and makes some cash! But at least he should get more ruck minutes even if Soldo comes in.
This is a major silver lining, Balta scored 63 in a half once Nank left the field, could see him racing to 300k.
It’s a fickle game... Two scores of 50ish, and he’ll have made as much coin as Ross, Gibbons and Atkins
It's fickle but also requires patience, just look at how many people dumped him at the beginning.
Certainly glad I had the patience and held him.
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Jack Ross needs to consult a surgeon so not sounding good
The Nank is out for 6-8 weeks - I know Soldo might seem like the obvious replacement, but I've actually noticed that CCJ has been an emergency lately which is a good sign? Sneaky chance?
ROB to CCJ would be a nice move.
That would be gold, and perfect timing in two weeks. Can’t see it happening though.
I hope Balta rucks one out and makes some cash! But at least he should get more ruck minutes even if Soldo comes in.
This is a major silver lining, Balta scored 63 in a half once Nank left the field, could see him racing to 300k.
It’s a fickle game... Two scores of 50ish, and he’ll have made as much coin as Ross, Gibbons and Atkins
It's fickle but also requires patience, just look at how many people dumped him at the beginning.
Certainly glad I had the patience and held him.
I held him but it was nothing to do with patience. I held him because he hadn't made any money and there was nothing decent to trade him to anyway lol
Hately a chance for a recall after GWS poor showing on the weekend?
Quote from: quinny88 on May 14, 2019, 01:31:49 PM
Hately a chance for a recall after GWS poor showing on the weekend?
I can't see who they'd drop for him though, particularly with Mummy and Whitfield looking likely to return this week.
He's not gonna come in for Cameron, he was playing in Kelly's spot.
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Hately a chance for a recall after GWS poor showing on the weekend?
I can't see who they'd drop for him though, particularly with Mummy and Whitfield looking likely to return this week.
He's not gonna come in for Cameron, he was playing in Kelly's spot.
Cameron? am i missing something? Surely he cant be out :(
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Hately a chance for a recall after GWS poor showing on the weekend?
I can't see who they'd drop for him though, particularly with Mummy and Whitfield looking likely to return this week.
He's not gonna come in for Cameron, he was playing in Kelly's spot.
Cameron? am i missing something? Surely he cant be out :(
Wouldn’t surprise if they gave him a rest to get the shoulder right. Looks sore
Now that Ross is cooked, Freako reckons Naish or RCD might be a chance for a run
Would be very handy if one of them comes in to replace Ross
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 14, 2019, 07:32:42 PM
Now that Ross is cooked, Freako reckons Naish or RCD might be a chance for a run
Would be very handy if one of them comes in to replace Ross
I would think will make way for Cotch when he’s available.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 14, 2019, 07:32:42 PM
Now that Ross is cooked, Freako reckons Naish or RCD might be a chance for a run
Would be very handy if one of them comes in to replace Ross
Problem is Rioli, Graham and Cotchin will be available in the coming weeks so their JS will be pretty shaky
KH confirms that Joel Garner will be in the 26. Hearing it'll be final 22 as well from a few different places. Really excited to see him as a Port supporter, but given Burton's injury he may also be a handy cash generator, even if a week early in regards to byes.
Quote from: Koop on May 16, 2019, 03:14:56 PM
KH confirms that Joel Garner will be in the 26. Hearing it'll be final 22 as well from a few different places. Really excited to see him as a Port supporter, but given Burton's injury he may also be a handy cash generator, even if a week early in regards to byes.
Played junior footy with him and he was always a class above everyone else. Even as a young kid he was a leader. Glad too see him finally get his opportunity.
One week too early though
Whats larkeys JS like
Quote from: Qwerty7698 on May 16, 2019, 10:42:22 PM
Whats larkeys JS like
Great. They love him at North and he was super exciting against the Cats.
I'm bringing him in this week I think. With no good options next week either I'm jumping on him 50k late.
Playing through the byes is my priority right now not cash gen.
Wonder if the mid season rookie draft will through up some players we can downgrade to?
I assume they will be added to SuperCoach?!
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Quote from: Qwerty7698 on May 16, 2019, 10:42:22 PM
Whats larkeys JS like
Great. They love him at North and he was super exciting against the Cats.
I'm bringing him in this week I think. With no good options next week either I'm jumping on him 50k late.
Playing through the byes is my priority right now not cash gen.
Jumping on him over Corbett or already have corbett?
Deciding between Corbett and Larkey myself, money for next weeks upgrade could be tight so the cash might matter.
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Whats larkeys JS like
Great. They love him at North and he was super exciting against the Cats.
I'm bringing him in this week I think. With no good options next week either I'm jumping on him 50k late.
Playing through the byes is my priority right now not cash gen.
Jumping on him over Corbett or already have corbett?
Deciding between Corbett and Larkey myself, money for next weeks upgrade could be tight so the cash might matter.
I'm deciding between these two as well. I think Larkey has slightly better scoring potential but I'm not clear on his JS. Corbett I think always plays unless he is injured?
Would hately come in with Conigs out
Quote from: smashbox on May 17, 2019, 10:50:01 AM
Would hately come in with Conigs out
I reckon he's a decent chance looking at their extended bench
If he gets named I'm picking him for sure - only need 1 or 2 more games after this round and he'd make enough cash
If he plays over the first two bye rounds too that's a massive bonus
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Would hately come in with Conigs out
I reckon he's a decent chance looking at their extended bench
If he gets named I'm picking him for sure - only need 1 or 2 more games after this round and he'd make enough cash
If he plays over the first two bye rounds too that's a massive bonus
arent you worried he plays 1 week then gets dropped for nigs. Has only played when at least one of nigs kelly whitfield are out.
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Would hately come in with Conigs out
I reckon he's a decent chance looking at their extended bench
If he gets named I'm picking him for sure - only need 1 or 2 more games after this round and he'd make enough cash
If he plays over the first two bye rounds too that's a massive bonus
arent you worried he plays 1 week then gets dropped for nigs. Has only played when at least one of nigs kelly whitfield are out.
Salary predictions have him at 230k in the first week, that's a pretty good worst case scenario. If he manages 3 games he hits 300k which is all you can ask.
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Would hately come in with Conigs out
I reckon he's a decent chance looking at their extended bench
If he gets named I'm picking him for sure - only need 1 or 2 more games after this round and he'd make enough cash
If he plays over the first two bye rounds too that's a massive bonus
arent you worried he plays 1 week then gets dropped for nigs. Has only played when at least one of nigs kelly whitfield are out.
Really hoping he does not get named this week. I've got a double upgrade planned but Hately playing would make me have 2nd thoughts!
Lads are there any dual pos fwd/mid rookies to play this week who haven’t gone up in price yet?
Quote from: Dmoney$ on May 17, 2019, 01:00:19 PM
Lads are there any dual pos fwd/mid rookies to play this week who haven’t gone up in price yet?
Nope, Curtis Taylor and McHenry are Emergencies thats it
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Cumming debut? :o
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Whats larkeys JS like
Great. They love him at North and he was super exciting against the Cats.
I'm bringing him in this week I think. With no good options next week either I'm jumping on him 50k late.
Playing through the byes is my priority right now not cash gen.
Jumping on him over Corbett or already have corbett?
Deciding between Corbett and Larkey myself, money for next weeks upgrade could be tight so the cash might matter.
I'm deciding between these two as well. I think Larkey has slightly better scoring potential but I'm not clear on his JS. Corbett I think always plays unless he is injured?
Not sure about Robbie Youngs JS but I'll get to see his score before choosing Larkey or Corbett which is nice at least.
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Whats larkeys JS like
Great. They love him at North and he was super exciting against the Cats.
I'm bringing him in this week I think. With no good options next week either I'm jumping on him 50k late.
Playing through the byes is my priority right now not cash gen.
Jumping on him over Corbett or already have corbett?
Deciding between Corbett and Larkey myself, money for next weeks upgrade could be tight so the cash might matter.
I'm deciding between these two as well. I think Larkey has slightly better scoring potential but I'm not clear on his JS. Corbett I think always plays unless he is injured?
Not sure about Robbie Youngs JS but I'll get to see his score before choosing Larkey or Corbett which is nice at least.
Dew could upset the Corbett selection.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-17/dew-ponders-options-to-give-suns-more-punch
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Whats larkeys JS like
Great. They love him at North and he was super exciting against the Cats.
I'm bringing him in this week I think. With no good options next week either I'm jumping on him 50k late.
Playing through the byes is my priority right now not cash gen.
Jumping on him over Corbett or already have corbett?
Deciding between Corbett and Larkey myself, money for next weeks upgrade could be tight so the cash might matter.
I'm deciding between these two as well. I think Larkey has slightly better scoring potential but I'm not clear on his JS. Corbett I think always plays unless he is injured?
Not sure about Robbie Youngs JS but I'll get to see his score before choosing Larkey or Corbett which is nice at least.
Dew could upset the Corbett selection.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-17/dew-ponders-options-to-give-suns-more-punch
They have 2 injuries to replace as well with Hanley and Miller injured so not a real problem. If any forward under pressure it would be Lukosius who has been disappointing. Suns match plan at the moment is to restrict scoring of other teams ala Sydney a few years back so forwards will continue to struggle.
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Cumming debut? :o
Macreadie debut :o
I'm assuming they mean for this year?
Cumming has already played this year
For anyone who follows that Twitter account - unfollow lol
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Cumming debut? :o
Macreadie debut :o
I'm assuming they mean for this year?
Cumming has already played this year
For anyone who follows that Twitter account - unfollow lol
The Supercoach Helper = not really helping :P
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Cumming debut? :o
Macreadie debut :o
I'm assuming they mean for this year?
Cumming has already played this year
For anyone who follows that Twitter account - unfollow lol
Haha, fair enough. I gave them the benefit of the doubt and took a guess that's what they meant. Obviously they just flowered it ;)
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Whats larkeys JS like
Great. They love him at North and he was super exciting against the Cats.
I'm bringing him in this week I think. With no good options next week either I'm jumping on him 50k late.
Playing through the byes is my priority right now not cash gen.
Jumping on him over Corbett or already have corbett?
Deciding between Corbett and Larkey myself, money for next weeks upgrade could be tight so the cash might matter.
I'm deciding between these two as well. I think Larkey has slightly better scoring potential but I'm not clear on his JS. Corbett I think always plays unless he is injured?
Not sure about Robbie Youngs JS but I'll get to see his score before choosing Larkey or Corbett which is nice at least.
Dew could upset the Corbett selection.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-17/dew-ponders-options-to-give-suns-more-punch
They have 2 injuries to replace as well with Hanley and Miller injured so not a real problem. If any forward under pressure it would be Lukosius who has been disappointing. Suns match plan at the moment is to restrict scoring of other teams ala Sydney a few years back so forwards will continue to struggle.
Lukosius played his best game for the club last week.
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Whats larkeys JS like
Great. They love him at North and he was super exciting against the Cats.
I'm bringing him in this week I think. With no good options next week either I'm jumping on him 50k late.
Playing through the byes is my priority right now not cash gen.
Jumping on him over Corbett or already have corbett?
Deciding between Corbett and Larkey myself, money for next weeks upgrade could be tight so the cash might matter.
I'm deciding between these two as well. I think Larkey has slightly better scoring potential but I'm not clear on his JS. Corbett I think always plays unless he is injured?
Not sure about Robbie Youngs JS but I'll get to see his score before choosing Larkey or Corbett which is nice at least.
Dew could upset the Corbett selection.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-17/dew-ponders-options-to-give-suns-more-punch
They have 2 injuries to replace as well with Hanley and Miller injured so not a real problem. If any forward under pressure it would be Lukosius who has been disappointing. Suns match plan at the moment is to restrict scoring of other teams ala Sydney a few years back so forwards will continue to struggle.
Lukosius played his best game for the club last week.
As did Corbett which is why I think both play. Where they play King is the interesting decision so we ait for another hour to find out.
Opinions which rookies who haven’t gained price yet have best job security this week?
whats stockers JS like, hes had 2 meh games and similar players in kennedy, obrien are itching to come in
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Opinions which rookies who haven’t gained price yet have best job security this week?
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whats stockers JS like, hes had 2 meh games and similar players in kennedy, obrien are itching to come in
just read the last few pages, been discussed to death. JS isn't great but if you need a downgrade may as well.
him or larkey/corbett/answerth if you don't mind paying more.
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Opinions which rookies who haven’t gained price yet have best job security this week?
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whats stockers JS like, hes had 2 meh games and similar players in kennedy, obrien are itching to come in
just read the last few pages, been discussed to death. JS isn't great but if you need a downgrade may as well.
him or larkey/corbett/answerth if you don't mind paying more.
Hell, I even gave Balta some consideration this week and settled on Larkey.
As much as I don't want to I'm going to grab Stocker. I don't have to field him and he can sit at M9 for the time being. It allows me to gain the cash to turn Menegola into Josh Kelly.
Stocker vs rowbottom
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As much as I don't want to I'm going to grab Stocker. I don't have to field him and he can sit at M9 for the time being. It allows me to gain the cash to turn Menegola into Josh Kelly.
Power move, I've also grabbed Kelly this week.
Baker is having an all time shocker. Who would have thought I eas better off benching Parker/Baker for Balta...
So glad I kept Balta 8)
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So glad I kept Balta 8)
Balta will make a truckload of cash from here, perfect timing as things were drying up with the cash generation.
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So glad I kept Balta 8)
Balta will make a truckload of cash from here, perfect timing as things were drying up with the cash generation.
Couldn’t agree more mate. May use him and O’Brien in couple weeks to JKelly or potentially Whitfield via Moore
Obrian b/e 89. Reckon he can beat that
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Obrian b/e 89. Reckon he can beat that
He's scored above 84 each week, other than the showdown against the tag team of Ryder and Lycett. He might not get 89 this week, but when the 66 falls out of his rolling average the following week he's still a good chance to make some more money IMO.
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Obrian b/e 89. Reckon he can beat that
O'Brien to Fort this week for me, not sure how much longer I can sustain Bines at F8 but I'm willing to roll the dice.
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Obrian b/e 89. Reckon he can beat that
O'Brien to Fort this week for me, not sure how much longer I can sustain Bines at F8 but I'm willing to roll the dice.
Bines at F8 cost me a doughnut this week.
Fort will be juicy but due to the same bye as Grundy and Gawn I'm thinking of hanging on to ROB for R13 if he can last that long.
Westhoff was the plan on that front but he's only had 3 decent scores after 9 rounds.
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Obrian b/e 89. Reckon he can beat that
Only 2 scores over his BE, 90 and 123. Probably maxed and you're not fielding him, so I guess trade him when you need the cash.
Sam Jacobs is 1-2 weeks away, will be interesting to see whether Obrien is straight out. If he stays in the side, I'm holding until his bye
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Obrian b/e 89. Reckon he can beat that
Only 2 scores over his BE, 90 and 123. Probably maxed and you're not fielding him, so I guess trade him when you need the cash.
Sam Jacobs is 1-2 weeks away, will be interesting to see whether Obrien is straight out. If he stays in the side, I'm holding until his bye
Exactly why I said in 2 weeks and it’s a wait and see once Sauce is available. Will be interesting to see if Fort remains in the squad when Stanley is back. I would think he’ll be safe and Abbott will be the one out. Fort play forward/ruck and replace Ratugolea.
Im thinking of cashing out now
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Obrian b/e 89. Reckon he can beat that
Only 2 scores over his BE, 90 and 123. Probably maxed and you're not fielding him, so I guess trade him when you need the cash.
Sam Jacobs is 1-2 weeks away, will be interesting to see whether Obrien is straight out. If he stays in the side, I'm holding until his bye
O’Brien has a BE of 84, not 89. He has matched or beaten that 6 out of 7 games..
Lot of poorly timed shot scores from rookies this week, will be made even worse if they are dropped :-\
I'm holding O'Brien through the byes. It makes sense to try and do a downgrade and upgrade him and Walsh when their bye comes around
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I'm holding O'Brien through the byes. It makes sense to try and do a downgrade and upgrade him and Walsh when their bye comes around
Thought about it & then thought the better, would rather have that money on the field & it also opens the door for Fort. Can't see Fort pumping out a ton every week but if he can quickly get to 250k then it's a win.
Fort came in this week because Sav and Stanley were out. Both are likely good to go next week. They got away with playing Abott and Fort against a Dogs team I can't even name who the starting ruck was looking at the team on paper
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Fort came in this week because Sav and Stanley were out. Both are likely good to go next week. They got away with playing Abott and Fort against a Dogs team I can't even name who the starting ruck was looking at the team on paper
Reckon Abbott is on the chopping block, really impressive debut from Fort, think he offers a fair bit of flexibility.
Which DEF rookie is best to go early on, Hinge or Garner?
And who looks like being the best scorer out of the 2? :-\
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Which DEF rookie is best to go early on, Hinge or Garner?
And who looks like being the best scorer out of the 2? :-\
Didn't see Hinge so can't comment but I thought Garner looked really composed. Not sure about JS but he surely doesn't get dropped on that performance.
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Which DEF rookie is best to go early on, Hinge or Garner?
And who looks like being the best scorer out of the 2? :-\
Didn't see Hinge so can't comment but I thought Garner looked really composed. Not sure about JS but he surely doesn't get dropped on that performance.
I wonder whose spot Garner is taking and who his competition is?
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Which DEF rookie is best to go early on, Hinge or Garner?
And who looks like being the best scorer out of the 2? :-\
Didn't see Hinge so can't comment but I thought Garner looked really composed. Not sure about JS but he surely doesn't get dropped on that performance.
I wonder whose spot Garner is taking and who his competition is?
Seems to be playing a Riley Bonner type role although his defensive side seems a little more evolved. Probably need to get some feedback from the Port guys.
He is holding Burton's spot and he is out injured with a hammy
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He is holding Burton's spot and he is out injured with a hammy
That doesn't sound good.
Will probably only last 2-3 weeks then before he's out...
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Which DEF rookie is best to go early on, Hinge or Garner?
And who looks like being the best scorer out of the 2? :-\
Didn't see Hinge so can't comment but I thought Garner looked really composed. Not sure about JS but he surely doesn't get dropped on that performance.
I wonder whose spot Garner is taking and who his competition is?
Seems to be playing a Riley Bonner type role although his defensive side seems a little more evolved. Probably need to get some feedback from the Port guys.
Just finished watching the game on Kayo replay after working at the game.
Thought Garner was pretty well beaten by Sexton in the first half, Sexton was smart enough to utilise the inexperience to his advantage on a fair few occasions and caught Garner a few steps behind/napping. Did some really nice things though including a few intercepts & zoning off to spoil a few contests. Looked very good when sighted in the second half after switching opponents. Did fumble a few pickups, but nothing costly.
What I will say is that he has fantastic vision and composure with ball in hand. Is going at 91% by foot in the SANFL and was very good today by foot in the wet. Also tried his heart out & ran all day to impact defensive contests. Expect him to improve the fumbles in the dry. If he can learn quickly about being defensively accountable on intelligent AFL-quality small/medium forwards, he's a potential 200 gamer waiting to happen.
Mat's correct about him keeping Burton's seat warm at the moment. Although I wouldn't be all doom & gloom. If he can continue to play like this and show a bit, he suddenly makes DBJ a very nervous man, given he basically is a cleaner version while giving a similar amount of defensive grunt. Broadbent isn't an assured spot either. I would certainly give him another week before picking him up, but if he produces a similar performance next week, you'd certainly have to consider him.
Hinge as good if not better than Garner on the weekend. I've also read that he is capable of drifting forward when need be which could help his job prospects.
As silly as it sounds... I'd be considering which guy fits your bye better seeing as you won't be trading them through it.
Anyone jumping early on Robbie Young?
Looked very good against the Pies. Quick and agile and very composed.
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Anyone jumping early on Robbie Young?
Looked very good against the Pies. Quick and agile and very composed.
I am.
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Anyone jumping early on Robbie Young?
Looked very good against the Pies. Quick and agile and very composed.
I am.
Tempted
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Anyone jumping early on Robbie Young?
Looked very good against the Pies. Quick and agile and very composed.
I am. Could have a good game too playing carlton
think ill get him and play him this week. Need the cash to bring in a premo
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Anyone jumping early on Robbie Young?
Looked very good against the Pies. Quick and agile and very composed.
I am. Could have a good game too playing carlton
have to downgrade this week to upgrade to heeney. young seems to be best option available, unless geelong guarantee fort a run of games.
Baker to Young does look pretty good. Hate going early but may have 2 other downgrades available next week with guys like Hinge, Atley and Garner etc.
Allows me to go Scrimshaw to Lloyd and hold ZWill. With 51k left over.
Young and Hinge are the two I am looking at
Think I'll pass on Fort - I imagine he will eventually be back out, has a crap bye, and moving forward I want two playing fwd rookies on the bench - sick of having just 1 and Bines
Garner/Atley from Port dunno, probably need to see another week from them
Oskar Baker seems a no
Anyone else coming up?
Who did Hinge come into the side for?
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Who did Hinge come into the side for?
Zac Bailey I think. Brisbane fans to confirm
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Who did Hinge come into the side for?
Was it Zac Bailey? Out with a hamstring injury, expected return round 15.
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Who did Hinge come into the side for?
Zac Bailey I think. Brisbane fans to confirm
Confirmed.
Were you happy with Hinge's game GL? Do you think he will get a good run at it?
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Who did Hinge come into the side for?
Zac Bailey I think. Brisbane fans to confirm
Confirmed.
Were you happy with Hinge's game GL? Do you think he will get a good run at it?
Yeah i was quite impressed with him, and the only other person thats banging on the door for his spot I'd say is Allison, but Hinge seems a good bet to play a few games from here at least.
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Who did Hinge come into the side for?
Zac Bailey I think. Brisbane fans to confirm
Confirmed.
Were you happy with Hinge's game GL? Do you think he will get a good run at it?
Yeah i was quite impressed with him, and the only other person thats banging on the door for his spot I'd say is Allison, but Hinge seems a good bet to play a few games from here at least.
Cheers. Will keep an eye on him.
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Anyone jumping early on Robbie Young?
Looked very good against the Pies. Quick and agile and very composed.
I am. Could have a good game too playing carlton
have to downgrade this week to upgrade to heeney. young seems to be best option available, unless geelong guarantee fort a run of games.
Why would you trade Heeney after a 116?
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Anyone jumping early on Robbie Young?
Looked very good against the Pies. Quick and agile and very composed.
I am. Could have a good game too playing carlton
have to downgrade this week to upgrade to heeney. young seems to be best option available, unless geelong guarantee fort a run of games.
Why would you trade Heeney after a 116?
he getting heeney
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Anyone jumping early on Robbie Young?
Looked very good against the Pies. Quick and agile and very composed.
I am. Could have a good game too playing carlton
have to downgrade this week to upgrade to heeney. young seems to be best option available, unless geelong guarantee fort a run of games.
Why would you trade Heeney after a 116?
he getting heeney
I missed the "to"... Just ignore the dumby with the green stars below his name... :-[
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Who did Hinge come into the side for?
Zac Bailey I think. Brisbane fans to confirm
Confirmed.
Were you happy with Hinge's game GL? Do you think he will get a good run at it?
Yeah i was quite impressed with him, and the only other person thats banging on the door for his spot I'd say is Allison, but Hinge seems a good bet to play a few games from here at least.
Cheers. Will keep an eye on him.
When Bailey comes back will more than likely be one of Answerth or Hinge to make way. Allison and Cox are the ones that could also pit pressure on for the position.
Are Answerth and Clarke in trouble this week? Pathetic I know but I need at least one of them to play.
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Who did Hinge come into the side for?
Zac Bailey I think. Brisbane fans to confirm
Confirmed.
Were you happy with Hinge's game GL? Do you think he will get a good run at it?
Yeah i was quite impressed with him, and the only other person thats banging on the door for his spot I'd say is Allison, but Hinge seems a good bet to play a few games from here at least.
Cheers. Will keep an eye on him.
When Bailey comes back will more than likely be one of Answerth or Hinge to make way. Allison and Cox are the ones that could also pit pressure on for the position.
Bailey wont be rushed back anytime soon and, from what I'm aware of, Cox has done nothing to push for a spot all year.
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Who did Hinge come into the side for?
Zac Bailey I think. Brisbane fans to confirm
Confirmed.
Were you happy with Hinge's game GL? Do you think he will get a good run at it?
Yeah i was quite impressed with him, and the only other person thats banging on the door for his spot I'd say is Allison, but Hinge seems a good bet to play a few games from here at least.
Cheers. Will keep an eye on him.
When Bailey comes back will more than likely be one of Answerth or Hinge to make way. Allison and Cox are the ones that could also pit pressure on for the position.
Bailey wont be rushed back anytime soon and, from what I'm aware of, Cox has done nothing to push for a spot all year.
Yea after the 2nd hammy will be cautious so not really expecting to see him until Rd 15/16. Starcevich is about to return from injury as well and he is a similar player so if he performs could also put pressure on. Cox has had a reasonable last 2 games but has been you know what up till then. Skinner is another but he is a tall so can not see him coming in unless injuries.
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Are Answerth and Clarke in trouble this week? Pathetic I know but I need at least one of them to play.
I'm worried Answerth and Hayes are in trouble :-\
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Are Answerth and Clarke in trouble this week? Pathetic I know but I need at least one of them to play.
I'm worried Answerth and Hayes are in trouble :-\
Hayes is absolutely in trouble, Lipinski has been tearing up the VFL for weeks and he can play a very similar role.
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Are Answerth and Clarke in trouble this week? Pathetic I know but I need at least one of them to play.
I'm worried Answerth and Hayes are in trouble :-\
Hayes is absolutely in trouble, Lipinski has been tearing up the VFL for weeks and he can play a very similar role.
Had 13 touches which isnt good but not bad not sure what efficiency was. Gave aeay 3 frees which was a downside to his score
Hinge, Atley, Garner or Young.. which one would we go early on? I need to pick up one of these guys this week to allow Moore to Lloyd.
Quote from: dmac07 on May 20, 2019, 07:20:07 PM
Hinge, Atley, Garner or Young.. which one would we go early on? I need to pick up one of these guys this week to allow Moore to Lloyd.
I've gone Young but will more than likely get Hinge next week.
Quote from: Bully on May 20, 2019, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on May 20, 2019, 07:20:07 PM
Hinge, Atley, Garner or Young.. which one would we go early on? I need to pick up one of these guys this week to allow Moore to Lloyd.
I've gone Young but will more than likely get Hinge next week.
I’ve gone Young too. Hoping Garner next week though, to help with byes
Quote from: js19 on May 20, 2019, 07:26:47 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 20, 2019, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on May 20, 2019, 07:20:07 PM
Hinge, Atley, Garner or Young.. which one would we go early on? I need to pick up one of these guys this week to allow Moore to Lloyd.
I've gone Young but will more than likely get Hinge next week.
I’ve gone Young too. Hoping Garner next week though, to help with byes
Me too. Hinge's bye is poo.
Atley and garner hope they plsy long term as their bye is solid
Quote from: sammy123 on May 20, 2019, 09:28:30 PM
Atley and garner hope they plsy long term as their bye is solid
There maybe other injuries to come but Wines, Jonas & Robbie will come into the 22. 2 of them this week most likely. It's anybodies guess who makes way. Drew got 32 disp. in the SANFL on the weekend but I doubt Ken will give Atley just the one crack considering his contribution was similar to that of Drew. Certainly neither appear players that I would go early on.
Quote from: HappyDEZ on May 21, 2019, 01:33:21 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 20, 2019, 09:28:30 PM
Atley and garner hope they plsy long term as their bye is solid
There maybe other injuries to come but Wines, Jonas & Robbie will come into the 22. 2 of them this week most likely. It's anybodies guess who makes way. Drew got 32 disp. in the SANFL on the weekend but I doubt Ken will give Atley just the one crack considering his contribution was similar to that of Drew. Certainly neither appear players that I would go early on.
Nah i wasnt gunna go early but was tempted to double down next week on them possibly cleaning up dead rookies eg burgess and scott
Quote from: sammy123 on May 21, 2019, 02:51:57 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on May 21, 2019, 01:33:21 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 20, 2019, 09:28:30 PM
Atley and garner hope they plsy long term as their bye is solid
There maybe other injuries to come but Wines, Jonas & Robbie will come into the 22. 2 of them this week most likely. It's anybodies guess who makes way. Drew got 32 disp. in the SANFL on the weekend but I doubt Ken will give Atley just the one crack considering his contribution was similar to that of Drew. Certainly neither appear players that I would go early on.
Nah i wasnt gunna go early but was tempted to double down next week on them possibly cleaning up dead rookies eg burgess and scott
Yep, mid season clean out, looking forward to it actually.
Is Bailey Scott any chance of getting back?
Quote from: quinny88 on May 21, 2019, 01:47:49 PM
Is Bailey Scott any chance of getting back?
Would have to come back next week I think, don't want to carry him through the byes.
Quote from: Bully on May 21, 2019, 01:58:48 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on May 21, 2019, 01:47:49 PM
Is Bailey Scott any chance of getting back?
Would have to come back next week I think, don't want to carry him through the byes.
Listed as concussion on the injury list, I imagine he'll be straight in once he is fit, hopefully that's soon.
Don’t think so, will need to go though the 2’s on his way back
Anyone got the balls to trade in Rotham when he's inevitably named for the suspended Jetta?
Quote from: LaHug on May 21, 2019, 03:58:35 PM
Anyone got the balls to trade in Rotham when he's inevitably named for the suspended Jetta?
With guys like Hinge and even Garner possible options there is no need to take the risk on Rotham now
I would think either he or Nelson gets a crack for Jetta, but they'll be straight out the week after when he returns
Pretty set on downgrading Duursma and Wilkie this week.
Young and Hinge are the two I will go early on as I believe they have the best job security.
Garner, Atley and Baker I will look at next week.
Rotham could come in this week, as mentioned above but will probably go straight back out again.
Quote from: smashbox on May 21, 2019, 02:48:59 PM
Don’t think so, will need to go though the 2’s on his way back
Yeah would definitely play in the 2's but i reckon solid performances would see him back in. I would rather him play over hall and some other north pkayers
Burgess back in and playing up to his bye would be amazing (for Collins)
So I want to clear out some dead wood from my bench.
Who is more likely to get a game this season...B Scott or C Burgess??
Quote from: HoleMeal on May 23, 2019, 12:25:47 PM
So I want to clear out some dead wood from my bench.
Who is more likely to get a game this season...B Scott or C Burgess??
I would say Scott
Corbett has looked a lot better than Burgess so unless Corbett or 2m Peter get injured there is no spot for Burgess imo
Also they will probably try and get some games into King
Quote from: Gigantor on May 23, 2019, 12:45:20 PM
Quote from: HoleMeal on May 23, 2019, 12:25:47 PM
So I want to clear out some dead wood from my bench.
Who is more likely to get a game this season...B Scott or C Burgess??
I would say Scott
Corbett has looked a lot better than Burgess so unless Corbett or 2m Peter get injured there is no spot for Burgess imo
Also they will probably try and get some games into King
Burgess could easily come in for Collins tonight.
Anyway, clearing out deadwood this week is a poor move. What is the point when you make no money? Either wait for the byes or carry them all year
Great to see Burgess get first crack at it over Leslie.
Looks like Hinge and Young are the two that are reasonable prospects. I'm going early on Hinge.
Quote from: batt on May 23, 2019, 09:42:32 PM
Great to see Burgess get first crack at it over Leslie.
Looks like Hinge and Young are the two that are reasonable prospects. I'm going early on Hinge.
Will Burgess play defense?
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Quote from: batt on May 23, 2019, 09:42:32 PM
Great to see Burgess get first crack at it over Leslie.
Looks like Hinge and Young are the two that are reasonable prospects. I'm going early on Hinge.
Will Burgess play defense?
I would say yes with corbett and king playing forward
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Great to see Burgess get first crack at it over Leslie.
Looks like Hinge and Young are the two that are reasonable prospects. I'm going early on Hinge.
Will Burgess play defense?
Yes, he's played down there in the NEAFL for a couple of weeks.
Leslie has been tried before and the Suns seem to be a bit sick of him which is why Burgess is getting first crack.
Caleb Graham is the only other guy worth a mention here but would need to have some good games in the 2s to be considered seeing how young he and the team are.
the lack of reliable rookie downgrades coming up is pretty concerning :-\
Anyone taking a punt on Hately
Quote from: bkimm32 on May 24, 2019, 03:17:45 AM
Anyone taking a punt on Hately
If he was named everyone would but he wont make the sunday cut
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Anyone taking a punt on Hately
If he was named everyone would but he wont make the sunday cut
Depends on Coniglio I reckon. From that extended bench, I'd say Hately is the backup if he doesn't get up. I've got Cogs, so hope Hately misses :-X
Hinge or Young?
Hinge - Lots of handballs but in the guts.
Young - score inflated by 2 goals 2 goal assists
Quote from: Carn on May 24, 2019, 08:53:38 AM
Hinge or Young?
Hinge - Lots of handballs but in the guts.
Young - score inflated by 2 goals 2 goal assists
I have gone Young as I need coverage in forwards with both Danger and Moore out.
So, do we think Young is a must have, with the Port one gamers getting dropped? I was going to miss him altogether and get Hinge this week, but wondering if I need both leading into the byes. That’s assuming they hold their spots.
Quote from: no eye deer on May 24, 2019, 09:24:36 AM
So, do we think Young is a must have, with the Port one gamers getting dropped? I was going to miss him altogether and get Hinge this week, but wondering if I need both leading into the byes. That’s assuming they hold their spots.
Bailey is gone for 6 weeks so it is Hinges spot to lose. One of Hinge or Answerth will make way when he returns.
Robert Young plays for Saints and is mature aged so would expect him to continue and will be handy through byes as well as making cash. Has the first bye though,
Quote from: no eye deer on May 24, 2019, 09:24:36 AM
So, do we think Young is a must have, with the Port one gamers getting dropped? I was going to miss him altogether and get Hinge this week, but wondering if I need both leading into the byes. That’s assuming they hold their spots.
Hinge, Young and Fort
I'll be grabbing 2 of them, because after they bubble there doesn't appear to anybody else on the horizon
I actually can't get both Young and Fort, so it will be Hinge + Young/Fort but I'm double downing on that next week giving me another week to see them all
If Stocker doesn't make the cut then I'll have to go early one 1, and I'm leaning towards Young just because of his better bye and if Ben Long is his only threat I'm fine with that, reckon he gets a decent crack
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Quote from: no eye deer on May 24, 2019, 09:24:36 AM
So, do we think Young is a must have, with the Port one gamers getting dropped? I was going to miss him altogether and get Hinge this week, but wondering if I need both leading into the byes. That’s assuming they hold their spots.
Hinge, Young and Fort
I'll be grabbing 2 of them, because after they bubble there doesn't appear to anybody else on the horizon
I actually can't get both Young and Fort, so it will be Hinge + Young/Fort but I'm double downing on that next week giving me another week to see them all
If Stocker doesn't make the cut then I'll have to go early one 1, and I'm leaning towards Young just because of his better bye and if Ben Long is his only threat I'm fine with that, reckon he gets a decent crack
Here’s for the replies fellas. I’m in the same boat, RD, if Setters doesn’t get up, I’ll get Young. Will grab Hinge this week otherwise.
Mid-season draft next week remember, so there could be a few options that pop up out of that.
Young this week, Hinge next week and I'm sure there will be someone else the week after.
Will pass on Fort, I reckon he'll struggle to hold his spot through the byes.
Quote from: no eye deer on May 24, 2019, 09:24:36 AM
So, do we think Young is a must have, with the Port one gamers getting dropped? I was going to miss him altogether and get Hinge this week, but wondering if I need both leading into the byes. That’s assuming they hold their spots.
I'm grabbing both too, but Young this week as I have Drew and Danger out. Hinge next week for Clark/Hayes and grab Whitfield, hopefully.
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 24, 2019, 11:39:16 AM
Mid-season draft next week remember, so there could be a few options that pop up out of that.
Young this week, Hinge next week and I'm sure there will be someone else the week after.
Will pass on Fort, I reckon he'll struggle to hold his spot through the byes.
It's a good opportunity for clubs to top up their lists, but do you think any of them will come straight in play? I'd think the odds are low, but we might get lucky with 1 or 2 eventually
I'm passing on Fort too - just doesn't work for my side at all, but if he does have a huge game this weekend then he has to come in just for the cash injection he'll make
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 24, 2019, 11:49:18 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 24, 2019, 11:39:16 AM
Mid-season draft next week remember, so there could be a few options that pop up out of that.
Young this week, Hinge next week and I'm sure there will be someone else the week after.
Will pass on Fort, I reckon he'll struggle to hold his spot through the byes.
It's a good opportunity for clubs to top up their lists, but do you think any of them will come straight in play? I'd think the odds are low, but we might get lucky with 1 or 2 eventually
I'm passing on Fort too - just doesn't work for my side at all, but if he does have a huge game this weekend then he has to come in just for the cash injection he'll make
Same. If he goes 80+ again & is named on the bubble I think we have to bring him in & hope he puts together 5 or 6 games in a row. You would think he would easily beat Rata & Buzza in the RUC chop out stakes so it really boils down to him hitting the scoreboard. 3 again would be nice 2 borderline & anything less would see him on very shaky ground.
Another big score from fort is hard to ignore. If he can make similiar cash to obrian that would be great
Quote from: sammy123 on May 24, 2019, 01:46:45 PM
Another big score from fort is hard to ignore. If he can make similiar cash to obrian that would be great
Just realised he has Gold Coast with no Sam Collins. Baptism of fire for Burgess as a defensive option. Looks like he has Fort or Hawkins with Hombsch getting the other. I suppose it couldn't be any harder than trying to hold down a key forward spot at GC in your first year of AFL. At least he should see a fair chunk of the footy.
Bewley in! Potentially on the bubble post bye!
Anyone grabbing Marsh on the bubble?
Bewely early or oskar baker ? Need some mid coverage
Both feel like bad desperation moves. I'd be swinging my DPP around and see if you can grab anyone else
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 24, 2019, 08:57:28 PM
Both feel like bad desperation moves. I'd be swinging my DPP around and see if you can grab anyone else
Hinge?
Quote from: backpocket on May 25, 2019, 12:26:29 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 24, 2019, 08:57:28 PM
Both feel like bad desperation moves. I'd be swinging my DPP around and see if you can grab anyone else
Hinge?
Not a bad choice. Insurance if you also have Answerth as I reckon one will stay for awhile.
Going to see how Duursma goes tomorrow. If he spuds I might bring him in
I almost rather Marsh. At least he is on the bubble.
I saw Rupert wills was 46 at half time and i thought damn coulda been an okay mid cash cow but only scored 67 in the end but had 58 percent game time which is strange as maggies were down a man
Quote from: sammy123 on May 25, 2019, 11:02:19 AM
I saw Rupert wills was 46 at half time and i thought damn coulda been an okay mid cash cow but only scored 67 in the end but had 58 percent game time which is strange as maggies were down a man
He copped a hard knock. Would have reduced his time on field
Quote from: tkringle on May 25, 2019, 11:11:54 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 25, 2019, 11:02:19 AM
I saw Rupert wills was 46 at half time and i thought damn coulda been an okay mid cash cow but only scored 67 in the end but had 58 percent game time which is strange as maggies were down a man
He copped a hard knock. Would have reduced his time on field
Yes he looked good until the big hit
Should get another game - big strong body
Quote from: sammy123 on May 25, 2019, 11:02:19 AM
I saw Rupert wills was 46 at half time and i thought damn coulda been an okay mid cash cow but only scored 67 in the end but had 58 percent game time which is strange as maggies were down a man
Taylor Adams is close to returning - he probably makes way for him
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 25, 2019, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 25, 2019, 11:02:19 AM
I saw Rupert wills was 46 at half time and i thought damn coulda been an okay mid cash cow but only scored 67 in the end but had 58 percent game time which is strange as maggies were down a man
Taylor Adams is close to returning - he probably makes way for him
Yep & given his starting price he is not a good option anyway imo. At $123 sure why not but at $166 you'd at least want solid JS.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 25, 2019, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on May 25, 2019, 11:02:19 AM
I saw Rupert wills was 46 at half time and i thought damn coulda been an okay mid cash cow but only scored 67 in the end but had 58 percent game time which is strange as maggies were down a man
Taylor Adams is close to returning - he probably makes way for him
DeGoey, Elliott and Varcoe all to come back as well and play similar roles
Nice junk time work from Larkey to knock out a decent score
Glad I kept Duursma. Was great cover for Williams
30 touches and 2 goals for Harley Bennell in the WAFL :-X
Atkins tonning up...!
(On my bench with the E, but no-one to sub on to get the score :-[... Coniglio - take another week mate)
Baker, Balta, Duursma and Clark 8)
Need Young and Hore to smash it now!
Quote from: js19 on May 25, 2019, 11:00:48 PM
Atkins tonning up...!
(On my bench with the E, but no-one to sub on to get the score :-[... Coniglio - take another week mate)
E on Atkins as I used Drew to get Grundy VC :)
Quote from: Goosey on May 25, 2019, 11:32:53 PM
Quote from: js19 on May 25, 2019, 11:00:48 PM
Atkins tonning up...!
(On my bench with the E, but no-one to sub on to get the score :-[... Coniglio - take another week mate)
E on Atkins as I used Drew to get Grundy VC :)
Well done!
Gutted! But at least I kept him. Cash injection coming up for the byes
Thanks matt crouch had to play atkins :).
Atkins and baker's cash flow will start again and stack i reckon has done his job
Noah Balta
~$303k, negative BE ;D
Quote from: js19 on May 26, 2019, 12:00:58 AM
Noah Balta
~$303k, negative BE ;D
Who would have thought this to be a likely scenario?! Glad I left him getting splinters at F8!
Atkins timing is superb
Quote from: tommy10 on May 25, 2019, 11:31:53 PM
Baker, Balta, Duursma and Clark 8)
Need Young and Hore to smash it now!
I can understand trading one of Baker/Duursma/Clark this week if you were going to get an absolute star and needed the cash gen. I'm glad I held them all and that they all scored well on field. One of those little bits of luck that goes your way sometimes. We should get a look at a couple of decent downgrade options over the next fortnight hopefully and they will be perfect to cull.
Quote from: js19 on May 26, 2019, 12:00:58 AM
Noah Balta
~$303k, negative BE ;D
Miracles happen. I'm glad holding the spud has turned into a value pick down the track. Should see some decent cash gen now.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 26, 2019, 01:24:01 AM
Miracles happen. I'm glad holding the spud has turned into a value pick down the track. Should see some decent cash gen now.
Spud? How dare you.
It's Super Premo Balta thank you veryyyyy much! 8)
He is the only player I have seen drop in price from 124k. I was legitimately thinking at one point that his position would be nothing but a black hole at F8. Now I'm fielding him, footy turns really quickly
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 26, 2019, 02:39:10 AM
He is the only player I have seen drop in price from 124k. I was legitimately thinking at one point that his position would be nothing but a black hole at F8. Now I'm fielding him, footy turns really quickly
Haha! Yeah it's funny how things turn out hey? ;D
Baltas game time has been increasing every week though and with that his confidence. 8)
It's a feel good story and I am glad to see the big fellas doing well. ;)
So if you guys have to cull ROB
Would you:
A. Pick Fort this week as a decent back up and possibly cash generator (although very late in the season)
B. Pick Bines as a potential fwd/ruc player (despite having no other fwd/rucks)
C. Take Sweet as hes the cheapest ruck with the most late saturday and sunday games remaining (to my knowledge, haven't checked that myself) as a permanent loophole option.
Keep in mind that ROB Would have to be traded to Fort THIS WEEK, where as you can hold the big fella through the byes and take Bines or Sweet at the optimal time.
I'm not going near Fort and I'm holding O'Brien
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 26, 2019, 04:06:58 AM
I'm not going near Fort and I'm holding O'Brien
I'm not going near Fort either but Callum Coleman-Jones has suddenly spiked my interest.
Ruck/Fwd DPP with Bines
123k
Same bye as O'Brien
Scored 60 SC last night in his first game with 10 HO and 13 possessions.
Nankervis listed as being out 5-7 weeks
I didn't see the game but on stats alone and with Nank's injury he could be the answer to ruck/fwd bye coverage and ROB's cash downgrade.
Soldo probably comes straight back in at his expense though.
Teams next week will be interesting. I won't do ROB to CCJ trade till he's on the bubble but geez it'd be sweet if he keeps getting a run of games.
Quote from: enzedder on May 26, 2019, 07:09:45 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 26, 2019, 04:06:58 AM
I'm not going near Fort and I'm holding O'Brien
I'm not going near Fort either but Callum Coleman-Jones has suddenly spiked my interest.
Ruck/Fwd DPP with Bines
123k
Same bye as O'Brien
Scored 60 SC last night in his first game with 10 HO and 13 possessions.
Nankervis listed as being out 5-7 weeks
I didn't see the game but on stats alone and with Nank's injury he could be the answer to ruck/fwd bye coverage and ROB's cash downgrade.
Soldo probably comes straight back in at his expense though.
Teams next week will be interesting. I won't do ROB to CCJ trade till he's on the bubble but geez it'd be sweet if he keeps getting a run of games.
He won't, was smashed in the ruck, did a bit better around the ground though.
Quote from: js19 on May 26, 2019, 12:00:58 AM
Noah Balta
~$303k, negative BE ;D
I urged people to hold in round 2 & many wasted a trade on a dud rookie correction. Now with Balta racing towards 400k that could be decisive.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 26, 2019, 04:06:58 AM
I'm not going near Fort and I'm holding O'Brien
Likewise, no way I’m trading ROB to Fort. CCJ would probably come straight out with Soldo back too.
Aktins Duursma Baker all on field feeling like a million bucks! Have benched Wilkie to take Clark's 85 now watch Wilkie ton up too!
Traded Balta to Atkins before Round 2. Still fine with the move Tat has been good lately :D
Well done to those with Balta still and well done if you CHOSE (not forced ;) ) to start him these last two weeks
So everyone's just going to hold ROB forever? :/
Quote from: PowerBug on May 26, 2019, 01:21:27 PM
Traded Balta to Atkins before Round 2. Still fine with the move Tat has been good lately :D
Well done to those with Balta still and well done if you CHOSE (not forced ;) ) to start him these last two weeks
Yay I get 2 well domes here :)
Once the Gawn/Grundy bye is over I'm going to downgrade him and use the cash to upgrade elsewhere.
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 26, 2019, 04:18:52 PM
Once the Gawn/Grundy bye is over I'm going to downgrade him and use the cash to upgrade elsewhere.
Doesn't he have the same bye?
Nope. Round 14 for Adelaide, round 13 for the other two
Quote from: Mat0369 on May 26, 2019, 04:22:04 PM
Nope. Round 14 for Adelaide, round 13 for the other two
Ah yeah, I was thinking of Fort
Donuts for Young in the first quarter :-X
Quote from: Rusty00 on May 26, 2019, 05:10:03 PM
Donuts for Young in the first quarter :-X
Guy averages like 50 at VFL level, shouldn't expect much :P
Quote from: fanTCfool on May 26, 2019, 05:13:34 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on May 26, 2019, 05:10:03 PM
Donuts for Young in the first quarter :-X
Guy averages like 50 at VFL level, shouldn't expect much :P
Double figures would be nice ;)
Young demonstrating why you should seldom go a week early on a rookie
Hinge has played himself into my team
Fwd rookies looking awfully scarce - anyone coming through if Young gets dropped we reckon?
Quote from: YoungGun on May 26, 2019, 10:37:23 PM
Fwd rookies looking awfully scarce - anyone coming through if Young gets dropped we reckon?
Hoping Burgess does a Balta at this rate..
We just gotta hope the mid season draft brings forwards
Surely Drew gets a game if Rocky misses :-\
Quote from: Rusty00 on May 26, 2019, 11:42:29 PM
Surely Drew gets a game if Rocky misses :-\
He and Atley had 30 and 31 touches respectively in the SANFL so I'd suggest it'll be between them. I traded Drew for Atley last weekend so I'm hoping the opposite is the case :P
Quote from: fanTCfool on May 26, 2019, 11:43:53 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on May 26, 2019, 11:42:29 PM
Surely Drew gets a game if Rocky misses :-\
Atley would be hamdy for the byes
He and Atley had 30 and 31 touches respectively in the SANFL so I'd suggest it'll be between them. I traded Drew for Atley last weekend so I'm hoping the opposite is the case :P
I highly doubt they will risk Rocky, especially with the bye next round so there is an opportunity for someone to come in.
Apart from Hinge and possibly Fort is there any rookies that are worth looking at ? It all looks pretty grim.
Quote from: Colty on May 27, 2019, 09:01:32 AM
I highly doubt they will risk Rocky, especially with the bye next round so there is an opportunity for someone to come in.
Apart from Hinge and possibly Fort is there any rookies that are worth looking at ? It all looks pretty grim.
Bewley coming up, played the 1 game yesterday
How many of us went on Young early? I did and had to field him too. My team is so shower.
Quote from: LaHug on May 27, 2019, 10:05:21 AM
How many of us went on Young early? I did and had to field him too. My team is so shower.
I did and fielded him with Danger out. Couldn’t loophole Stocker and Young, otherwise would have got over 2500
Quote from: LaHug on May 27, 2019, 10:05:21 AM
How many of us went on Young early? I did and had to field him too. My team is so shower.
The dude ranked 2nd went early on him and fielded him as well. The first ranked guy brought in Ziebell. Happens to everyone
Quote from: tommy10 on May 27, 2019, 10:17:25 AM
Quote from: LaHug on May 27, 2019, 10:05:21 AM
How many of us went on Young early? I did and had to field him too. My team is so shower.
I did and fielded him with Danger out. Couldn’t loophole Stocker and Young, otherwise would have got over 2500
Holy crap that's a good score! I scored a miserly 2098 with Smith, Witherden, Lockhart, Answerth, Oliver, Brayshaw, Stack, Petruccelle, and Young all fielded. Need Danger, Crouch, Williams all back asap and keep on trading. But this season is unsalvageable.
Quote from: LaHug on May 27, 2019, 10:56:31 AM
Quote from: tommy10 on May 27, 2019, 10:17:25 AM
Quote from: LaHug on May 27, 2019, 10:05:21 AM
How many of us went on Young early? I did and had to field him too. My team is so shower.
I did and fielded him with Danger out. Couldn’t loophole Stocker and Young, otherwise would have got over 2500
Holy crap that's a good score! I scored a miserly 2098 with Smith, Witherden, Lockhart, Answerth, Oliver, Brayshaw, Stack, Petruccelle, and Young all fielded. Need Danger, Crouch, Williams all back asap and keep on trading. But this season is unsalvageable.
A bit lucky I guess, so can’t complain. Yeah need Danger back at least, can’t start Young again, so may have to trade Baker to fund Whitfield.
I went early on young to but had the opportunity to field corbett instead which i did just due to i knew he would score 40 odd where as young i just assumed wouldnt score another 60 odd
Same for me
Quote from: LaHug on May 27, 2019, 10:05:21 AM
How many of us went on Young early? I did and had to field him too. My team is so shower.
Bewley almost locked for me, will even consider bringing him in when he has his bye (if I can get 18 starters in round 12).
Quote from: Bully on May 27, 2019, 08:27:43 PM
Bewley almost locked for me, will even consider bringing him in when he has his bye (if I can get 18 starters in round 12).
Not a ridiculous move.
There is a very real chance that no playing rookie will be on the bubble next week if CCJ is dropped for Soldo as expected and Hately continues to be overlooked.
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 27, 2019, 09:39:08 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 27, 2019, 08:27:43 PM
Bewley almost locked for me, will even consider bringing him in when he has his bye (if I can get 18 starters in round 12).
Not a ridiculous move.
There is a very real chance that no playing rookie will be on the bubble next week if CCJ is dropped for Soldo as expected and Hately continues to be overlooked.
I'm not doing any upgrades next week even though I'll have 450k+ as there's no point bringing someone in before their bye so with 3 trades next week and no upgrades to make I'll definitely be grabbing Bewley next week as long as he isn't a complete potato this week. Small risk, especially as I'll likely just be culling a dud like Hayes for him
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Quote from: MontyJnr on May 27, 2019, 09:39:08 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 27, 2019, 08:27:43 PM
Bewley almost locked for me, will even consider bringing him in when he has his bye (if I can get 18 starters in round 12).
Not a ridiculous move.
There is a very real chance that no playing rookie will be on the bubble next week if CCJ is dropped for Soldo as expected and Hately continues to be overlooked.
I'm not doing any upgrades next week even though I'll have 450k+ as there's no point bringing someone in before their bye so with 3 trades next week and no upgrades to make I'll definitely be grabbing Bewley next week as long as he isn't a complete potato this week. Small risk, especially as I'll likely just be culling a dud like Hayes for him
I reckon I would be tempted to grab a player that debuts this week or next week in the R12 bye over Bewley. Then save Bewley for R13.
I own Fyfe, Macrae, Hayes & Scott, so moving one of the deadweight rookies on for a playing rookie so I have a full midfield that week could be beneficial.
nobody learns lol
Hayes was one of the best players for
bulldogs vfl team on the weekend so could cpme back again
Hopefully Essendon give this kid a crack soon
Freako tweeted
Monster numbers for Will Snelling in the SANFL this season - avg. 30 disposals, 10 tackles, 136 #SuperCoach and 128 #AFLFantasy points. Picked up by the Bombers tonight.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 27, 2019, 11:29:11 PM
Hopefully Essendon give this kid a crack soon
Freako tweeted
Monster numbers for Will Snelling in the SANFL this season - avg. 30 disposals, 10 tackles, 136 #SuperCoach and 128 #AFLFantasy points. Picked up by the Bombers tonight.
next week would suit me RD, torrid round this week and facing byes with a bench of non starters
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 27, 2019, 11:29:11 PM
Hopefully Essendon give this kid a crack soon
Freako tweeted
Monster numbers for Will Snelling in the SANFL this season - avg. 30 disposals, 10 tackles, 136 #SuperCoach and 128 #AFLFantasy points. Picked up by the Bombers tonight.
Had big numbers in the SANFL last season, but couldn't crack a game for Port. Hopefully a new club, means new opportunities.
Hopefully Rhyce Shaw gives Scott and Taylor another run at North.
Quote from: HoleMeal on May 28, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
Hopefully Rhyce Shaw gives Scott and Taylor another run at North.
I'm fairly confident Scott will be back in very soon, time to start getting games into these kids
Quote from: jfitty on May 28, 2019, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: HoleMeal on May 28, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
Hopefully Rhyce Shaw gives Scott and Taylor another run at North.
I'm fairly confident Scott will be back in very soon, time to start getting games into these kids
Has been an emergency lately too so he has to be close I reckon. If he could jag a game or two over the byes that would be a pleasant and well timed surprise
I went against all advice and brought in Bewley this past week over Hinge and Young...will it back fire? Only time will tell, I needed a mid bad and felt he has just as good JS as Hinge and didn't rate Young's JS at all. Hinge or Fort will come in this week whilst I grab Whitfield with my 2nd trade.
Ben Ainsworth set to miss six weeks after foot surgery.
Quote from: jfitty on May 28, 2019, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: HoleMeal on May 28, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
Hopefully Rhyce Shaw gives Scott and Taylor another run at North.
I'm fairly confident Scott will be back in very soon, time to start getting games into these kids
Need him back otherwise I'm swallowing donuts in round 13.
So any idea how much the mid season drafr rookies cost
Quote from: sammy123 on May 28, 2019, 01:11:14 PM
So any idea how much the mid season drafr rookies cost
The guys who have never played AFL should be 102k
The guys who have will cost more ala Marsh costing 163k
Marlion Pickett is a gun but I reckon by the time he's ready Cotch will be back, difficult to see too many openings.
Do people think Carlton will roll out De Luca straight away?
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 28, 2019, 01:56:58 PM
Do people think Carlton will roll out De Luca straight away?
I thought they would as their mids just arent that good bar cripps
Quote from: Bully on May 28, 2019, 01:45:32 PM
Marlion Pickett is a gun but I reckon by the time he's ready Cotch will be back, difficult to see too many openings.
I'm pretty sure they've already said he won't play this year due to his injury
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 28, 2019, 02:41:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 28, 2019, 01:45:32 PM
Marlion Pickett is a gun but I reckon by the time he's ready Cotch will be back, difficult to see too many openings.
I'm pretty sure they've already said he won't play this year due to his injury
So the mid season draft is already being used for reasons other than what it was designed for haha
JOSH DELUCA, $154,700, MID
MITCH RIORDAN, $102,400, MID
KYLE DUNKLEY, $102,400, MID
MICHAEL KNOLL, $102,400, RUC
LACHLAN HOSIE, $102,400, FWD
RYAN GARDNER, $102,400, FWD
WILL SNELLING, $117,300, MID
JACK MAYO, $102,400, FWD
CAMERON SUTCLIFFE, $199,500, DEF
DILLON O’REILLY, $102,400, DEF-FWD
MARLION PICKETT, $102,400, MID
JOHN NOBLE, $102,400, MID
CODY HIRST, $102,400, MID
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 28, 2019, 03:14:41 PM
JOSH DELUCA, $154,700, MID
MITCH RIORDAN, $102,400, MID
KYLE DUNKLEY, $102,400, MID
MICHAEL KNOLL, $102,400, RUC
LACHLAN HOSIE, $102,400, FWD
RYAN GARDNER, $102,400, FWD
WILL SNELLING, $117,300, MID
JACK MAYO, $102,400, FWD
CAMERON SUTCLIFFE, $199,500, DEF
DILLON O’REILLY, $102,400, DEF-FWD
MARLION PICKETT, $102,400, MID
JOHN NOBLE, $102,400, MID
CODY HIRST, $102,400, MID
No Mid-Fwds :'(
Quote from: HoleMeal on May 28, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
Hopefully Rhyce Shaw gives Scott and Taylor another run at North.
Reckon Rhyce will be trying to win as many games as he can, not trialling kids. He's a good chance at the main man seat. I wouldn't expect many changes to the lineup, if any.
Quote from: frenzy on May 28, 2019, 03:49:21 PM
Quote from: HoleMeal on May 28, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
Hopefully Rhyce Shaw gives Scott and Taylor another run at North.
Reckon Rhyce will be trying to win as many games as he can, not trialling kids. He's a good chance at the main man seat. I wouldn't expect many changes to the lineup, if any.
If he is actually trying to win as many games as he can, then he should drop Luke McDonald for Bailey Scott. Would be a significant improvement to North IMO.
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Quote from: frenzy on May 28, 2019, 03:49:21 PM
Quote from: HoleMeal on May 28, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
Hopefully Rhyce Shaw gives Scott and Taylor another run at North.
Reckon Rhyce will be trying to win as many games as he can, not trialling kids. He's a good chance at the main man seat. I wouldn't expect many changes to the lineup, if any.
If he is actually trying to win as many games as he can, then he should drop Luke McDonald for Bailey Scott. Would be a significant improvement to North IMO.
yep, there's definaetly some shower in the best 22, but the match commitee didn't leave with Scott. Rhyce may have different opinions on some individuals, but I can't see them loading up with kids.
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Quote from: MontyJnr on May 28, 2019, 01:56:58 PM
Do people think Carlton will roll out De Luca straight away?
I thought they would as their mids just arent that good bar cripps
Hamstring injury (1-2 weeks) will mean he is a month away I hear!
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Quote from: Bully on May 28, 2019, 01:45:32 PM
Marlion Pickett is a gun but I reckon by the time he's ready Cotch will be back, difficult to see too many openings.
I'm pretty sure they've already said he won't play this year due to his injury
Fair enough, shame because he would be perfect.
Bailey Scott hasn't been playing because of a concussion, played in the 2's this week and should be back in the side as soon as he's fit
Quote from: chemical-m on May 28, 2019, 05:59:11 PM
Bailey Scott hasn't been playing because of a concussion, played in the 2's this week and should be back in the side as soon as he's fit
Needs to get a move on.
Quote from: Bully on May 28, 2019, 06:01:04 PM
Quote from: chemical-m on May 28, 2019, 05:59:11 PM
Bailey Scott hasn't been playing because of a concussion, played in the 2's this week and should be back in the side as soon as he's fit
Needs to get a move on.
Hoping the fact that they have just changed coaches will mean they just play the kids
Ryan Gardner is playing this weekend
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 28, 2019, 07:20:25 PM
Ryan Gardner is playing this weekend
102k fwd rookie on the bubble rd14 could be the most traded in person in history...
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 28, 2019, 07:20:25 PM
Ryan Gardner is playing this weekend
Reckon I might go early and jump on this week
I need a fwd rookie and Young/Fort are the only options otherwise. Fort bye is horrible for me and Young was horrible on the weekend and could get dropped
For the Dogs to recruit this guy and bring him straight in speaks volumes - I'll take the risk and go early
Next week im grabbing bewley then the week after i will grab gardner
Quote from: js19 on May 28, 2019, 07:46:48 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on May 28, 2019, 07:20:25 PM
Ryan Gardner is playing this weekend
102k fwd rookie on the bubble rd14 could be the most traded in person in history...
Corbett to Gardner :) Hopefully.
Is it too big of a risk to already bring Gardner in if it means I can afford to bring in Whitfield this week?
I know it’s hard to say but what’s Gardner’s JS looking like list wise (who could take his spot)
Quote from: Dmoney$ on May 29, 2019, 09:32:20 AM
Is it too big of a risk to already bring Gardner in if it means I can afford to bring in Whitfield this week?
I know it’s hard to say but what’s Gardner’s JS looking like list wise (who could take his spot)
Josh schahe or however you spell it
What are Oskar Baker’s chances of actually holding his spot through the byes? The Dees had Lever, Kolodjashnij, May & Neal-Bullen listed as a test this week, are any of them a risk of taking Baker’s spot?
would think lever kolo and neal-bullen all chances to replace baker
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 30, 2019, 10:02:03 PM
What are Oskar Baker’s chances of actually holding his spot through the byes? The Dees had Lever, Kolodjashnij, May & Neal-Bullen listed as a test this week, are any of them a risk of taking Baker’s spot?
Not touching him
Shower scoring, bye and JS
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2019, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 30, 2019, 10:02:03 PM
What are Oskar Baker’s chances of actually holding his spot through the byes? The Dees had Lever, Kolodjashnij, May & Neal-Bullen listed as a test this week, are any of them a risk of taking Baker’s spot?
Not touching him
Shower scoring, bye and JS
Is his bye actually that bad for midfielders? He fits on the bench alongside Neale & Oliver, while Hayes can be moved on for Bewley if he’s still not getting games and Bailey Scott might be back playing too.
He has been putting up some decent stats too despite it not translating into SC scores. First game got caught HTB a few times and 2nd game most of his work was done in junk time.
JS is the most pressing issue for mine.
With Hinge dropped and Young on the extended bench (surely to be dropped for Geary), who else is there if not Baker? I wish I hadn't gone Young a week early but desperately needed to avoid a forward donut and avoid fielding Burgess down back... It doesn't get any better this week with very little cash and holes EVERYWHERE
With Hinge dropped and Young on the extended bench (surely to be dropped for Geary), who else is there if not Baker? I wish I hadn't gone Young a week early but desperately needed to avoid a forward donut and avoid fielding Burgess down back... It doesn't get any better this week with very little cash and holes EVERYWHERE
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 31, 2019, 12:59:02 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2019, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 30, 2019, 10:02:03 PM
What are Oskar Baker’s chances of actually holding his spot through the byes? The Dees had Lever, Kolodjashnij, May & Neal-Bullen listed as a test this week, are any of them a risk of taking Baker’s spot?
Not touching him
Shower scoring, bye and JS
Is his bye actually that bad for midfielders? He fits on the bench alongside Neale & Oliver, while Hayes can be moved on for Bewley if he’s still not getting games and Bailey Scott might be back playing too.
He has been putting up some decent stats too despite it not translating into SC scores. First game got caught HTB a few times and 2nd game most of his work was done in junk time.
JS is the most pressing issue for mine.
I've already got Hayes, Scott and Stocker so I can't entertain the idea of adding another questionable mid rookie, and none of those 3 are worth trading to Baker imo
Assuming Hayes and Scott don't return that could be potentially 5 mids out that bye round as well
Bewley is the guy I'm targeting over him - just hoping more downgrade options pop up over the next few weeks because that's the only appeal in Baker that he's a rare bubble boy for now but I'm going to pass and hope others pop up
Quote from: LaHug on May 31, 2019, 09:23:15 AM
With Hinge dropped and Young on the extended bench (surely to be dropped for Geary), who else is there if not Baker? I wish I hadn't gone Young a week early but desperately needed to avoid a forward donut and avoid fielding Burgess down back... It doesn't get any better this week with very little cash and holes EVERYWHERE
Ed Phillips could easily be dropped for Geary.
Confirmed starters under 150k: Oskar Baker, Brett Bewley, Ryan Gardner
Extended bench under 150k (finalised 5pm today): Robert Young, Darragh Joyce, Dylan Clarke, Irving Mosquito, Rhylee West, Angus Schumacher
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2019, 09:35:32 AM
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2019, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 30, 2019, 10:02:03 PM
What are Oskar Baker’s chances of actually holding his spot through the byes? The Dees had Lever, Kolodjashnij, May & Neal-Bullen listed as a test this week, are any of them a risk of taking Baker’s spot?
Not touching him
Shower scoring, bye and JS
Is his bye actually that bad for midfielders? He fits on the bench alongside Neale & Oliver, while Hayes can be moved on for Bewley if he’s still not getting games and Bailey Scott might be back playing too.
He has been putting up some decent stats too despite it not translating into SC scores. First game got caught HTB a few times and 2nd game most of his work was done in junk time.
JS is the most pressing issue for mine.
I've already got Hayes, Scott and Stocker so I can't entertain the idea of adding another questionable mid rookie, and none of those 3 are worth trading to Baker imo
Assuming Hayes and Scott don't return that could be potentially 5 mids out that bye round as well
Bewley is the guy I'm targeting over him - just hoping more downgrade options pop up over the next few weeks because that's the only appeal in Baker that he's a rare bubble boy for now but I'm going to pass and hope others pop up
Yeah I have the same weak midfield bench combination and I agree it’s dangerous adding Baker to the mix because it means 1 of these guys becomes your 8th mid which will need to be upgraded to a premium at some stage.
Stocker is looking like the best of a bad bunch in terms of value right now, question is whether he can make enough money over the next 3 weeks before his bye to be upgraded?
Thinking of grabbing Begley as it works in with getting Whitfield, what’s everyone think of his JS? Despite his average pricing.
Quote from: EA100 on May 31, 2019, 03:17:32 PM
Thinking of grabbing Begley as it works in with getting Whitfield, what’s everyone think of his JS? Despite his average pricing.
Won't score well but should be safe in the team. Could've kicked a few goals vs Freo and played well at Dreamtime also.
Was also really solid before his injury last season so as a Dons supporter I'm backing him to stick in the team.
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 30, 2019, 10:02:03 PM
What are Oskar Baker’s chances of actually holding his spot through the byes? The Dees had Lever, Kolodjashnij, May & Neal-Bullen listed as a test this week, are any of them a risk of taking Baker’s spot?
Lever and Kolodjashnij are different positions, but Neal-Bullen could take his spot. Lockhart could also come back in for him whenever he recovers
Need to make a call
Grab Young now on the bubble which leaves Gardner as an option after his bye
Or pass on Young and just grab Gardner
Might grab Young - with the lack of upcoming options having Gardner as one later will probably be important
Young F8 Gardner D8 so not too bad
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2019, 06:22:58 PM
Need to make a call
Grab Young now on the bubble which leaves Gardner as an option after his bye
Or pass on Young and just grab Gardner
I would grab Young solely for the fact that we're not likely to have lots of downgrade options over the byes and we'll need them to do the upgrades we want to. That said, I'd take Baker over Young if you can swing players around to do it.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2019, 06:22:58 PM
Need to make a call
Grab Young now on the bubble which leaves Gardner as an option after his bye
Or pass on Young and just grab Gardner
Might grab Young - with the lack of upcoming options having Gardner as one later will probably be important
Young F8 Gardner D8 so not too bad
Have to take Young, need at least 1 sighter from Gardner. Think we're all hoping he kills it but no guarantees as we all know.
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2019, 06:36:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 31, 2019, 06:22:58 PM
Need to make a call
Grab Young now on the bubble which leaves Gardner as an option after his bye
Or pass on Young and just grab Gardner
Might grab Young - with the lack of upcoming options having Gardner as one later will probably be important
Young F8 Gardner D8 so not too bad
Have to take Young, need at least 1 sighter from Gardner. Think we're all hoping he kills it but no guarantees as we all know.
Yeah I'm grabbing Young so that I have Bewley/Gardner as downgrade options through the byes
How did Bewley look today?
Was hoping he'd show a bit more second game to cement a spot in the side and potentially warrant going early. Now, based purely on the score, I'm very hesitant
Quote from: js19 on June 02, 2019, 01:54:34 AM
How did Bewley look today?
Was hoping he'd show a bit more second game to cement a spot in the side and potentially warrant going early. Now, based purely on the score, I'm very hesitant
Looked good. Was around the ball a fair bit, going in hard. He’s an ox! A few mistakes only 62% gametime, unfortunately Lyons tends to give new players plenty of bench time.
Quote from: js19 on June 02, 2019, 01:54:34 AM
How did Bewley look today?
Was hoping he'd show a bit more second game to cement a spot in the side and potentially warrant going early. Now, based purely on the score, I'm very hesitant
An average game could have been great if he nailed two gettable shots, definitely one to consider.
Joyce on the bubble now that he is a late in.
-53 BE too bad most of will miss him.
Was hoping he'd show up in a couple of weeks.
I can bring him in but I'd prefer not to. Every chance he scores a 30 odd and is out next week
$147k for Clarke looks like a good deal
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 02, 2019, 05:33:33 PM
$147k for Clarke looks like a good deal
How bad is Shiel's injury?
Quote from: GoLions on June 02, 2019, 05:42:16 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 02, 2019, 05:33:33 PM
$147k for Clarke looks like a good deal
How bad is Shiel's injury?
Not very, but Clarke has been brilliant with a stopping role to half time.
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 02, 2019, 05:45:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions on June 02, 2019, 05:42:16 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 02, 2019, 05:33:33 PM
$147k for Clarke looks like a good deal
How bad is Shiel's injury?
Not very, but Clarke has been brilliant with a stopping role to half time.
Will take a moronic selection decision to drop him. Got plenty of the ball and limited Cripps to 11 disposals. Been crying out for a tagging player like him since Hocking retired.
Quote from: AaronKirk on June 02, 2019, 07:55:35 PM
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Quote from: fanTCfool on June 02, 2019, 05:33:33 PM
$147k for Clarke looks like a good deal
How bad is Shiel's injury?
Not very, but Clarke has been brilliant with a stopping role to half time.
Will take a moronic selection decision to drop him. Got plenty of the ball and limited Cripps to 11 disposals. Been crying out for a tagging player like him since Hocking retired.
Would be ripe for round 14 also
trouble is all of Langford, Guelfi, Laverde were good to
guys Clarke is fighting for spots with
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 02, 2019, 08:10:55 PM
trouble is all of Langford, Guelfi, Laverde were good to
guys Clarke is fighting for spots with
Wasn't Laverde playing forward and Guelfi back?
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2019, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 02, 2019, 08:10:55 PM
trouble is all of Langford, Guelfi, Laverde were good to
guys Clarke is fighting for spots with
Wasn't Laverde playing forward and Guelfi back?
they can all be moved around still fighting for spots
Easy just drop McNiece!
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 02, 2019, 08:42:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 02, 2019, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 02, 2019, 08:10:55 PM
trouble is all of Langford, Guelfi, Laverde were good to
guys Clarke is fighting for spots with
Wasn't Laverde playing forward and Guelfi back?
they can all be moved around still fighting for spots
Shiel, Stringer and Raz expected to play after the bye, so will be interesting who makes way...Mcneice and maybe Guelfi..
Guelfi was great, don't see why we would drop him after yesterday.
Prefect timing for Clarke to bob up, might even scrape together 18 players if Young gets named next week.
Quote from: YoungGun on June 03, 2019, 09:42:17 AM
Guelfi was great, don't see why we would drop him after yesterday.
I agree, he’s good defensively and is hard at it which is someone we need. Plus his hair is so white haha. I’m not sure who else we would drop apart from McNeice, Langford and maybe Baguley.. if all of Stringer, Shiel and Raz plays. Definitely gonna be interesting
Baker scored reasonably well so hopefully he stays in the team for a few more games. Predicted to hit $250k in next four rounds if he plays.
Alex Pearce done for the year, could open the door for Logue after the bye
Quote from: Ricochet on June 03, 2019, 08:03:56 PM
Alex Pearce done for the year, could open the door for Logue after the bye
How's Kersten tracking? He was doing fairly well down back before getting injured
Would be good if Logue gets next crack though
The rookie situation is dire atm!
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 03, 2019, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 03, 2019, 08:03:56 PM
Alex Pearce done for the year, could open the door for Logue after the bye
How's Kersten tracking? He was doing fairly well down back before getting injured
Would be good if Logue gets next crack though
The rookie situation is dire atm!
Really tough as i only have baker and duursma to trade for money. Othet rookies havemt made enough or arent playing
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 03, 2019, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on June 03, 2019, 08:03:56 PM
Alex Pearce done for the year, could open the door for Logue after the bye
How's Kersten tracking? He was doing fairly well down back before getting injured
Would be good if Logue gets next crack though
The rookie situation is dire atm!
Kersten's still coming back from his foot op. He wasn't played a game this year yet
How much of a risk is it bringing in Hatley? Is there any chance we see him holding his spot over anyone when players come back?
Quote from: Dmoney$ on June 08, 2019, 10:46:40 AM
How much of a risk is it bringing in Hatley? Is there any chance we see him holding his spot over anyone when players come back?
He's not even in this week yet, chill.
If he does come in I'd grab him. Can't be worse than Stocker/Hayes/Scott.
I would trade Scott to Hately but north play at 4.35pm so won’t know until around 6pm...so annoying!
Quote from: Hazza09 on June 08, 2019, 02:52:16 PM
I would trade Scott to Hately but north play at 4.35pm so won’t know until around 6pm...so annoying!
Same mate. I’ll just have to miss him.
Quote from: Bones Bombers on June 08, 2019, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on June 08, 2019, 02:52:16 PM
I would trade Scott to Hately but north play at 4.35pm so won’t know until around 6pm...so annoying!
Same mate. I’ll just have to miss him.
I’ve got Hayes ready to go for Hately luckily
Quote from: Bones Bombers on June 08, 2019, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on June 08, 2019, 02:52:16 PM
I would trade Scott to Hately but north play at 4.35pm so won’t know until around 6pm...so annoying!
Same mate. I’ll just have to miss him.
I’ll miss him too as I’ve used my trades... Regardless of how he goes this week, owners will be sweating on him getting a fourth game next. If he does he’ll be an excellent investment, if not, not so much...
Oh, well. Can’t get all the rooks anyways, and him being in and out is too much of a risk during byes for me
Answerth at 1/4 time
17 DT
0 SC
::)
:)
Hoping Hately comes in next week and that Naish stays in for a while. Sure as hell very little to down grade to atm. Want to bring Boak and R Gray in next week, leaving me 11 trades and 1 forward required. When Whitfield comes back he would replace Hore, then 1 more defender and a top side with hopefully 6 trades left. Probably indulging in SC Wishful Thinking. It usually occurs about this time each year. If all the above comes to pass my weakest player on field would be Rocky, can live with that.
:'(
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 08, 2019, 03:40:26 PM
Answerth at 1/4 time
17 DT
0 SC
::)
Saw that. Found it pretty funny until I realised it means I take Balta's score.
At least Walsh is good
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 08, 2019, 04:10:01 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 08, 2019, 03:40:26 PM
Answerth at 1/4 time
17 DT
0 SC
::)
Saw that. Found it pretty funny until I realised it means I take Balta's score.
At least Walsh is good
Traded Walsh this week, so knew he’d ton up... ;D
At least it was Balta/Walsh for Neale/JKelly
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Answerth at 1/4 time
17 DT
0 SC
::)
Saw that. Found it pretty funny until I realised it means I take Balta's score.
At least Walsh is good
Traded Walsh this week, so knew he’d ton up... ;D
At least it was Balta/Walsh for Neale/JKelly
Yup, trading a rookie to the highest averaging mid, and taking a loss in points...
Edit: just shoot me now!
any rookies playing this week that have the round 14 bye?
Quote from: Samsturmfels on June 08, 2019, 07:37:35 PM
any rookies playing this week that have the round 14 bye?
Only Naish I think, and he's already played
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any rookies playing this week that have the round 14 bye?
Only Naish I think, and he's already played
yeah he would have been good to have. All my rookies have played shower so far: Corbett (6 atm), clark (24), Answerth (33), Baker (50) and also Yeo being now out. At least i have 19 players technically still playing so wont have to cop the lowest score.
I would have been great if hately was a late in/
I traded Walsh this week too. The cursed season continues!
Anyone think Greene to Gardner this week is a good move?
Quote from: LaHug on June 08, 2019, 08:07:31 PM
I traded Walsh this week too. The cursed season continues!
Anyone think Greene to Gardner this week is a good move?
Please don't break Gardner
Hold Greene I reckon :P
Quote from: LaHug on June 08, 2019, 08:07:31 PM
I traded Walsh this week too. The cursed season continues!
Anyone think Greene to Gardner this week is a good move?
not sure of gardners scoring capability or job security with schache being held out of the team. However, Im getting him next week if he is named as his dpp and price is still handy
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I traded Walsh this week too. The cursed season continues!
Anyone think Greene to Gardner this week is a good move?
Please don't break Gardner
Hold Greene I reckon :P
Made the trade. Watch Gardner get dropped now.
I only lost 9 points with Walsh to Cunnington so I guess it could've been worse?
For those of us still holding Burgess, his value might actually finally go up a bit after that unexpected 72 point game. :)
Quote from: Wanderer on June 09, 2019, 11:01:54 AM
For those of us still holding Burgess, his value might actually finally go up a bit after that unexpected 72 point game. :)
And for those of us who have Corbett, his value will go down ;D :'(
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Quote from: Wanderer on June 09, 2019, 11:01:54 AM
For those of us still holding Burgess, his value might actually finally go up a bit after that unexpected 72 point game. :)
And for those of us who have Corbett, his value will go down ;D :'(
Didn't feel the need to loophole Burgess and Answerth this week :-\
So somehow, according to AFL Player Ratings, Burgess was the Suns' most valuable player yesterday.
I uhhhhh OK. Just hoping he lines up next week.
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For those of us still holding Burgess, his value might actually finally go up a bit after that unexpected 72 point game. :)
And for those of us who have Corbett, his value will go down ;D :'(
My fwd bench of Corbett and Young is about as bad as it gets. Never mind fielding Corbett this week. :-[
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Quote from: Wanderer on June 09, 2019, 11:01:54 AM
For those of us still holding Burgess, his value might actually finally go up a bit after that unexpected 72 point game. :)
And for those of us who have Corbett, his value will go down ;D :'(
My fwd bench of Corbett and Young is about as bad as it gets. Never mind fielding Corbett this week. :-[
Mine too and we get Corbetts 10.
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So somehow, according to AFL Player Ratings, Burgess was the Suns' most valuable player yesterday.
I uhhhhh OK. Just hoping he lines up next week.
Kept Ben Brown quiet?
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Quote from: Wanderer on June 09, 2019, 11:01:54 AM
For those of us still holding Burgess, his value might actually finally go up a bit after that unexpected 72 point game. :)
And for those of us who have Corbett, his value will go down ;D :'(
My fwd bench of Corbett and Young is about as bad as it gets. Never mind fielding Corbett this week. :-[
Mine too and we get Corbetts 10.
Clarke, Corbett, Smith....
I got Cripps score VC and still going to lose!
Edit. Forgot to add Answerth to the list. :(
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 09, 2019, 11:03:48 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on June 09, 2019, 11:01:54 AM
For those of us still holding Burgess, his value might actually finally go up a bit after that unexpected 72 point game. :)
And for those of us who have Corbett, his value will go down ;D :'(
My fwd bench of Corbett and Young is about as bad as it gets. Never mind fielding Corbett this week. :-[
Mine too and we get Corbetts 10.
Clarke, Corbett, Smith....
I got Cripps score VC and still going to lose!
Fielding 20 so luckily wont have to cop Corbett or Smiths scores.. Assuming Hore, Gawn, Grundy and Oliver do ok of course!
Can't wait for next week when I have Corbett, Young, Gardner and possibly Bewley all on field
Every chance most of them get dropped too lol going to be a mess next week
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Can't wait for next week when I have Corbett, Young, Gardner and possibly Bewley all on field
Every chance most of them get dropped too lol going to be a mess next week
Im keen as for this
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 09, 2019, 06:31:31 PM
Can't wait for next week when I have Corbett, Young, Gardner and possibly Bewley all on field
Every chance most of them get dropped too lol going to be a mess next week
I'm ditching Corbett next week, but will have to pick up Gardner and Bewley if they make their respective teams next round.
If you had to go early on Clarke or Bewley - who would it be?
any richmond fans got an opinion on Naish JS?
Quote from: YoungGun on June 10, 2019, 10:14:32 PM
any richmond fans got an opinion on Naish JS?
I can't see him getting any more than 4 games.
Our best 18 (without Rance) is:
FB: Grimes, Astbury, Garthwaite
HB: Houli, Vlastuin, Stack
C: Mcintosh, Lambert, Short
HF: Caddy, Lynch, Baker
F: Rioli, Riewoldt, Butler
Foll: Nankervis, Cotchin, Martin
Bench: Balta, Castagna, Prestia, _____.
Which leaves Graham, Ross, Ellis, Naish, Broad, Bolton and Higgins all fighting for one spot.
- Broad and Ellis are both straight back in next week (it's rumoured they were dropped for being drunk in Mildura last week).
- Astbury should be fit for next week too, and Bolton had a very good game in the 2s (25 disposals as a small fwd).
- Lambert and Short will return by Round 16.
- Riewoldt, Ross and Nankervis will also be fit by the end of July.
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Quote from: YoungGun on June 10, 2019, 10:14:32 PM
any richmond fans got an opinion on Naish JS?
I can't see him getting any more than 4 games.
Our best 18 (without Rance) is:
FB: Grimes, Astbury, Garthwaite
HB: Houli, Vlastuin, Stack
C: Mcintosh, Lambert, Short
HF: Caddy, Lynch, Baker
F: Rioli, Riewoldt, Butler
Foll: Nankervis, Cotchin, Martin
Bench: Balta, Castagna, Prestia, _____.
Which leaves Graham, Ross, Ellis, Naish, Broad, Bolton and Higgins all fighting for one spot.
- Broad and Ellis are both straight back in next week (it's rumoured they were dropped for being drunk in Mildura last week).
- Astbury should be fit for next week too, and Bolton had a very good game in the 2s (25 disposals as a small fwd).
- Lambert and Short will return by Round 16.
- Riewoldt, Ross and Nankervis will also be fit by the end of July.
yep - as feared, think that could be very accurate.
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any richmond fans got an opinion on Naish JS?
I can't see him getting any more than 4 games.
Our best 18 (without Rance) is:
FB: Grimes, Astbury, Garthwaite
HB: Houli, Vlastuin, Stack
C: Mcintosh, Lambert, Short
HF: Caddy, Lynch, Baker
F: Rioli, Riewoldt, Butler
Foll: Nankervis, Cotchin, Martin
Bench: Balta, Castagna, Prestia, _____.
Which leaves Graham, Ross, Ellis, Naish, Broad, Bolton and Higgins all fighting for one spot.
- Broad and Ellis are both straight back in next week (it's rumoured they were dropped for being drunk in Mildura last week).
- Astbury should be fit for next week too, and Bolton had a very good game in the 2s (25 disposals as a small fwd).
- Lambert and Short will return by Round 16.
- Riewoldt, Ross and Nankervis will also be fit by the end of July.
yep - as feared, think that could be very accurate.
naish will be lucky to get a price rise, i can add him to my drew scott, hayes rotham bines list of non playing rookies. good news is corbett and young are playing ..... whoop de do for me!!! have you ever seen such a poor bench in your life? my good rookies are duursma, answerth, setterfield and gardner. a sad sad sad state of affairs.
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Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 10, 2019, 10:27:42 PM
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any richmond fans got an opinion on Naish JS?
I can't see him getting any more than 4 games.
Our best 18 (without Rance) is:
FB: Grimes, Astbury, Garthwaite
HB: Houli, Vlastuin, Stack
C: Mcintosh, Lambert, Short
HF: Caddy, Lynch, Baker
F: Rioli, Riewoldt, Butler
Foll: Nankervis, Cotchin, Martin
Bench: Balta, Castagna, Prestia, _____.
Which leaves Graham, Ross, Ellis, Naish, Broad, Bolton and Higgins all fighting for one spot.
- Broad and Ellis are both straight back in next week (it's rumoured they were dropped for being drunk in Mildura last week).
- Astbury should be fit for next week too, and Bolton had a very good game in the 2s (25 disposals as a small fwd).
- Lambert and Short will return by Round 16.
- Riewoldt, Ross and Nankervis will also be fit by the end of July.
yep - as feared, think that could be very accurate.
naish will be lucky to get a price rise, i can add him to my drew scott, hayes rotham bines list of non playing rookies. good news is corbett and young are playing ..... whoop de do for me!!! have you ever seen such a poor bench in your life? my good rookies are duursma, answerth, setterfield and gardner. a sad sad sad state of affairs.
As I look at it at least Naish will score points for me this week if I bring him in.
I was considering a non playing Def DPP anyway.
I’m not bothered by a lack of a potential price rise.
I will have a finished team this week with only Duursma as D6 on my field as the only playing rookie if my best team is available. He’s good enough as D6 I think so to me cash generation is no longer that important.
JS will be factored into whoever I bring in but if Naish is the only def rookie named that I can afford I’ll be bringing him in. I already have Gardner. Everything depends on teams but I will bring in a 102k non playing DPP if it comes to that as well.
Naish played well so i reckon he gets another run at least
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Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 10, 2019, 10:27:42 PM
Quote from: YoungGun on June 10, 2019, 10:14:32 PM
any richmond fans got an opinion on Naish JS?
I can't see him getting any more than 4 games.
Our best 18 (without Rance) is:
FB: Grimes, Astbury, Garthwaite
HB: Houli, Vlastuin, Stack
C: Mcintosh, Lambert, Short
HF: Caddy, Lynch, Baker
F: Rioli, Riewoldt, Butler
Foll: Nankervis, Cotchin, Martin
Bench: Balta, Castagna, Prestia, _____.
Which leaves Graham, Ross, Ellis, Naish, Broad, Bolton and Higgins all fighting for one spot.
- Broad and Ellis are both straight back in next week (it's rumoured they were dropped for being drunk in Mildura last week).
- Astbury should be fit for next week too, and Bolton had a very good game in the 2s (25 disposals as a small fwd).
- Lambert and Short will return by Round 16.
- Riewoldt, Ross and Nankervis will also be fit by the end of July.
yep - as feared, think that could be very accurate.
naish will be lucky to get a price rise, i can add him to my drew scott, hayes rotham bines list of non playing rookies. good news is corbett and young are playing ..... whoop de do for me!!! have you ever seen such a poor bench in your life? my good rookies are duursma, answerth, setterfield and gardner. a sad sad sad state of affairs.
As I look at it at least Naish will score points for me this week if I bring him in.
I was considering a non playing Def DPP anyway.
I’m not bothered by a lack of a potential price rise.
I will have a finished team this week with only Duursma as D6 on my field as the only playing rookie if my best team is available. He’s good enough as D6 I think so to me cash generation is no longer that important.
JS will be factored into whoever I bring in but if Naish is the only def rookie named that I can afford I’ll be bringing him in. I already have Gardner. Everything depends on teams but I will bring in a 102k non playing DPP if it comes to that as well.
But Naish is not a DPP.
I feel you're still needing rookies to come in and make money at this time of year then you're a bit behind. Most teams will be finished after the byes. I just need Naish to play 1 more game this week to help with the byes then he can rot at D8. Will have either Duursma or Hoare at D7 for cover for the rest of the year
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I feel you're still needing rookies to come in and make money at this time of year then you're a bit behind. Most teams will be finished after the byes. I just need Naish to play 1 more game this week to help with the byes then he can rot at D8. Will have either Duursma or Hoare at D7 for cover for the rest of the year
your right vinny, lack of cash generation coming home to roost. nothing i can really do about it now except review and learn for next year.
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any richmond fans got an opinion on Naish JS?
I can't see him getting any more than 4 games.
Our best 18 (without Rance) is:
FB: Grimes, Astbury, Garthwaite
HB: Houli, Vlastuin, Stack
C: Mcintosh, Lambert, Short
HF: Caddy, Lynch, Baker
F: Rioli, Riewoldt, Butler
Foll: Nankervis, Cotchin, Martin
Bench: Balta, Castagna, Prestia, _____.
Which leaves Graham, Ross, Ellis, Naish, Broad, Bolton and Higgins all fighting for one spot.
- Broad and Ellis are both straight back in next week (it's rumoured they were dropped for being drunk in Mildura last week).
- Astbury should be fit for next week too, and Bolton had a very good game in the 2s (25 disposals as a small fwd).
- Lambert and Short will return by Round 16.
- Riewoldt, Ross and Nankervis will also be fit by the end of July.
yep - as feared, think that could be very accurate.
naish will be lucky to get a price rise, i can add him to my drew scott, hayes rotham bines list of non playing rookies. good news is corbett and young are playing ..... whoop de do for me!!! have you ever seen such a poor bench in your life? my good rookies are duursma, answerth, setterfield and gardner. a sad sad sad state of affairs.
As I look at it at least Naish will score points for me this week if I bring him in.
I was considering a non playing Def DPP anyway.
I’m not bothered by a lack of a potential price rise.
I will have a finished team this week with only Duursma as D6 on my field as the only playing rookie if my best team is available. He’s good enough as D6 I think so to me cash generation is no longer that important.
JS will be factored into whoever I bring in but if Naish is the only def rookie named that I can afford I’ll be bringing him in. I already have Gardner. Everything depends on teams but I will bring in a 102k non playing DPP if it comes to that as well.
But Naish is not a DPP.
No he’s not. My point is I will happily bring in Naish for points this week. After that I don’t care so JS is not relevant. May as well get a non playing DPP if Naish doesn’t play. Trading regardless to afford two upgrades.
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 10, 2019, 10:27:42 PM
Quote from: YoungGun on June 10, 2019, 10:14:32 PM
any richmond fans got an opinion on Naish JS?
I can't see him getting any more than 4 games.
Our best 18 (without Rance) is:
FB: Grimes, Astbury, Garthwaite
HB: Houli, Vlastuin, Stack
C: Mcintosh, Lambert, Short
HF: Caddy, Lynch, Baker
F: Rioli, Riewoldt, Butler
Foll: Nankervis, Cotchin, Martin
Bench: Balta, Castagna, Prestia, _____.
Which leaves Graham, Ross, Ellis, Naish, Broad, Bolton and Higgins all fighting for one spot.
- Broad and Ellis are both straight back in next week (it's rumoured they were dropped for being drunk in Mildura last week).
- Astbury should be fit for next week too, and Bolton had a very good game in the 2s (25 disposals as a small fwd).
- Lambert and Short will return by Round 16.
- Riewoldt, Ross and Nankervis will also be fit by the end of July.
Please don't mention Dan Butler and best 18 in the same message :(
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any richmond fans got an opinion on Naish JS?
I can't see him getting any more than 4 games.
Our best 18 (without Rance) is:
FB: Grimes, Astbury, Garthwaite
HB: Houli, Vlastuin, Stack
C: Mcintosh, Lambert, Short
HF: Caddy, Lynch, Baker
F: Rioli, Riewoldt, Butler
Foll: Nankervis, Cotchin, Martin
Bench: Balta, Castagna, Prestia, _____.
Which leaves Graham, Ross, Ellis, Naish, Broad, Bolton and Higgins all fighting for one spot.
- Broad and Ellis are both straight back in next week (it's rumoured they were dropped for being drunk in Mildura last week).
- Astbury should be fit for next week too, and Bolton had a very good game in the 2s (25 disposals as a small fwd).
- Lambert and Short will return by Round 16.
- Riewoldt, Ross and Nankervis will also be fit by the end of July.
Please don't mention Dan Butler and best 18 in the same message :(
Trust me, it pains me just as much, but it's more a representation of how Hardwick sees the team than me, although I guess you could say that Higgins has more solid JS than Butler, but in my opinion they've both been terrible this year.
What's the consensus on Naish now that he's been named?
The Tiges have a few injuries, but reckon he might get a decent go like the rest of Richmond's debutants this year.
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What's the consensus on Naish now that he's been named?
The Tiges have a few injuries, but reckon he might get a decent go like the rest of Richmond's debutants this year.
I'm doing the Answerth to Naish trade, reckon Naish has the same prospects, if not better, given Brisbane will have a host of players returning. Last cash grab for a few weeks so want to get in early.
My concern with Naish is that he's not playing next week because of his bye. I've gotta make sure I've still got a comfortable 19 players next week before trading any Round 14 guys in.
Bit expensive but is Logue an alternative to Naish with better JS.
Lyon on Griffin Logue: He’s been told he will play if he gets through training. He had a full summer before he hurt his hamstring. He has an opportunity to deliver for us and it’s exciting
Quote from: LaHug on June 13, 2019, 12:37:23 PM
My concern with Naish is that he's not playing next week because of his bye. I've gotta make sure I've still got a comfortable 19 players next week before trading any Round 14 guys in.
Soldo now out.. with Astbury, Cotchin, Riewoldt, Rance, Edwards, Lambert, Short and Ross... confident he'll keep a spot for another month.
Thoughts on what to do with Corbett/Burgess/Stocker
Hold or trade And who?
Quote from: Dmoney$ on June 13, 2019, 08:36:33 PM
Thoughts on what to do with Corbett/Burgess/Stocker
Hold or trade And who?
Would probably hold Burgess and trade Corb/Stocker if ya can.
Assuming he happened to be named, is Hately still worth bringing in now we have Clarke, Hind & Bewley with the bye out of the way?
Or has the ship sailed on the 150k Hately?
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 13, 2019, 09:01:42 PM
Assuming he happened to be named, is Hately still worth bringing in now we have Clarke, Hind & Bewley with the bye out of the way?
Or has the ship sailed on the 150k Hately?
JS trumps cash gen from here I'd think as most teams should be close to getting 22, so Hately is not even someone I'd consider anymore
Naish looked alright. 67 from only 59% game time. 19 disposals.
Looked cleaner than half the Richmond team out there so hopefully holds his spot for awhile
Quote from: tkringle on June 13, 2019, 11:56:51 PM
Naish looked alright. 67 from only 59% game time. 19 disposals.
Looked cleaner than half the Richmond team out there so hopefully holds his spot for awhile
Yes looked very good. Should keep his spot for a little longer
So who kept ROB? I traded him out to afford Whitfield the week Whitfield got injured so he was always going to score big the one week everyone has him on field...
So whats the JS of clarke? Seems to have a decent role in the guts so should score well. Need him for this week and next
Quote from: LaHug on June 14, 2019, 10:38:22 AM
So who kept ROB? I traded him out to afford Whitfield the week Whitfield got injured so he was always going to score big the one week everyone has him on field...
I kept him as part of my plans for RD 13 byes. At least his score will help make up for the non selection of Corbett and Young who I was also banking on. So only 16 this week.
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Assuming he happened to be named, is Hately still worth bringing in now we have Clarke, Hind & Bewley with the bye out of the way?
Or has the ship sailed on the 150k Hately?
JS trumps cash gen from here I'd think as most teams should be close to getting 22, so Hately is not even someone I'd consider anymore
Yep agree
Quote from: strikeforce on June 14, 2019, 10:55:53 AM
So whats the JS of clarke? Seems to have a decent role in the guts so should score well. Need him for this week and next
Yeah I'm weighing up Clarke v Hind right now (already have Bewley)
Seems strange that even with Clarke coming off a 99 and Hind being a complete unknown that I'm still leaning towards choosing Hind v Gold Coast.
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Assuming he happened to be named, is Hately still worth bringing in now we have Clarke, Hind & Bewley with the bye out of the way?
Or has the ship sailed on the 150k Hately?
JS trumps cash gen from here I'd think as most teams should be close to getting 22, so Hately is not even someone I'd consider anymore
Yep agree
Quote from: strikeforce on June 14, 2019, 10:55:53 AM
So whats the JS of clarke? Seems to have a decent role in the guts so should score well. Need him for this week and next
Yeah I'm weighing up Clarke v Hind right now (already have Bewley)
Seems strange that even with Clarke coming off a 99 and Hind being a complete unknown that I'm still leaning towards choosing Hind v Gold Coast.
Hind is a interesting one, Im thinking of going this week to. Mature age should get a decent crack
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Assuming he happened to be named, is Hately still worth bringing in now we have Clarke, Hind & Bewley with the bye out of the way?
Or has the ship sailed on the 150k Hately?
JS trumps cash gen from here I'd think as most teams should be close to getting 22, so Hately is not even someone I'd consider anymore
Yep agree
Quote from: strikeforce on June 14, 2019, 10:55:53 AM
So whats the JS of clarke? Seems to have a decent role in the guts so should score well. Need him for this week and next
Yeah I'm weighing up Clarke v Hind right now (already have Bewley)
Seems strange that even with Clarke coming off a 99 and Hind being a complete unknown that I'm still leaning towards choosing Hind v Gold Coast.
Hind is a interesting one, Im thinking of going this week to. Mature age should get a decent crack
For me it's Hind vs Clarke vs Hately.
I want all 3 but at least 2 will come into my side within the next 3 week's.
If Hately actually plays he comes in this week for moore. If not then perhaps Clarke or Hind. Leaning hind if not, then Clarke the following and Hately whenever he actually plays his 3rd game.
We will see what happens over the course of the weekend
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Assuming he happened to be named, is Hately still worth bringing in now we have Clarke, Hind & Bewley with the bye out of the way?
Or has the ship sailed on the 150k Hately?
JS trumps cash gen from here I'd think as most teams should be close to getting 22, so Hately is not even someone I'd consider anymore
Yep agree
Quote from: strikeforce on June 14, 2019, 10:55:53 AM
So whats the JS of clarke? Seems to have a decent role in the guts so should score well. Need him for this week and next
Yeah I'm weighing up Clarke v Hind right now (already have Bewley)
Seems strange that even with Clarke coming off a 99 and Hind being a complete unknown that I'm still leaning towards choosing Hind v Gold Coast.
Hind is a interesting one, Im thinking of going this week to. Mature age should get a decent crack
Surely Hind's JS is suspect with the likes of Hanners and Steven playing soon
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Quote from: MontyJnr on June 13, 2019, 09:01:42 PM
Assuming he happened to be named, is Hately still worth bringing in now we have Clarke, Hind & Bewley with the bye out of the way?
Or has the ship sailed on the 150k Hately?
JS trumps cash gen from here I'd think as most teams should be close to getting 22, so Hately is not even someone I'd consider anymore
Yep agree
Quote from: strikeforce on June 14, 2019, 10:55:53 AM
So whats the JS of clarke? Seems to have a decent role in the guts so should score well. Need him for this week and next
Yeah I'm weighing up Clarke v Hind right now (already have Bewley)
Seems strange that even with Clarke coming off a 99 and Hind being a complete unknown that I'm still leaning towards choosing Hind v Gold Coast.
Hind is a interesting one, Im thinking of going this week to. Mature age should get a decent crack
Surely Hind's JS is suspect with the likes of Hanners and Steven playing soon
Steven probably 6 weeks away. Needs a ‘mini’ pre season of around 4 weeks and VFL footy according to Richardson
Hind vs Bewley?
Quote from: smashbox on June 14, 2019, 04:03:56 PM
Hind vs Bewley?
Bewley. You're guaranteed a price rise.
stop farking asking what the js of rookies are
nobody bloody knows
if they play well they might keep their spot
if they dont they might get dropped
NOBODY flowerING KNOWS
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 14, 2019, 04:40:25 PM
stop farking asking what the js of rookies are
nobody bloody knows
if they play well they might keep their spot
if they dont they might get dropped
NOBODY flowerING KNOWS
I blame the Gig economy
and Uber
Griffin Louge anyone is he worth the extra over Hind or Bewley
Quote from: whynot102 on June 14, 2019, 07:01:16 PM
Griffin Louge anyone is he worth the extra over Hind or Bewley
Don't think he'll be a great scorer to be honest.
Quote from: LaHug on June 14, 2019, 10:38:22 AM
So who kept ROB? I traded him out to afford Whitfield the week Whitfield got injured so he was always going to score big the one week everyone has him on field...
Kept him to specifically play this week and trade out next as part of the cash cull
Quote from: RoughRed on June 14, 2019, 06:16:37 PMI blame the Gig economy - and Uber
Right on, comrade!
Is hately gonna come in this week with the injury to DeBoar?
Is Naish going to play the next 3 weeks?
What’s the more likely outcome?
Want to bring one in this week, as back to 2 trades and want to bring Logue and Hind in.
Quote from: smashbox on June 23, 2019, 03:11:57 PM
Is hately gonna come in this week with the injury to DeBoar?
Is Naish going to play the next 3 weeks?
What’s the more likely outcome?
Want to bring one in this week, as back to 2 trades and want to bring Logue and Hind in.
You couldn't bring Hately in early surely? We all thought he was gonna be the Whitfield replacement and it didn't happen, so I wouldn't touch him until he's actually named.
Naish has looked comfortable in the games he's played, I'd grab him if you had to get one.
Surely Hately to be dropped next week again :'( Only 1 touch in the last and had minimal game time after he gave that free away.
Brought in Hayden for DPP and loophole purposes during the byes.
Gained extra coverage and will loophole someone else.
Sweating on Naish, otherwise going to have to look elsewhere for a cash grab for Hore. :-\
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 28, 2019, 11:06:10 AM
Sweating on Naish, otherwise going to have to look elsewhere for a cash grab for Hore. :-\
I already have Naish so I'm extra worried. Need him to cover for Whitfield for a couple more weeks. From the extended bench, I have...
Definite ins:
Houli
Definite outs:
Chol
Menadue
Up in the air:
Graham
Naish
Butler
Bolton
Baker
Positionally, at least one of Bolton/Butler is definitely out so Naish needs to just be ahead of one of Graham, Baker, or the other Bolton/Butler player. I think he should be but we'll find out at 5pm.
Quote from: LaHug on June 28, 2019, 11:36:44 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 28, 2019, 11:06:10 AM
Sweating on Naish, otherwise going to have to look elsewhere for a cash grab for Hore. :-\
I already have Naish so I'm extra worried. Need him to cover for Whitfield for a couple more weeks. From the extended bench, I have...
Definite ins:
Houli
Definite outs:
Chol
Menadue
Up in the air:
Graham
Naish
Butler
Bolton
Baker
Positionally, at least one of Bolton/Butler is definitely out so Naish needs to just be ahead of one of Graham, Baker, or the other Bolton/Butler player. I think he should be but we'll find out at 5pm.
I'd go Houli, Naish, Bolton & Baker from that lot if I were the Tiges.
Quote from: LaHug on June 28, 2019, 11:36:44 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on June 28, 2019, 11:06:10 AM
Sweating on Naish, otherwise going to have to look elsewhere for a cash grab for Hore. :-\
I already have Naish so I'm extra worried. Need him to cover for Whitfield for a couple more weeks. From the extended bench, I have...
Definite ins:
Houli
Definite outs:
Chol
Menadue
Up in the air:
Graham
Naish
Butler
Bolton
Baker
Positionally, at least one of Bolton/Butler is definitely out so Naish needs to just be ahead of one of Graham, Baker, or the other Bolton/Butler player. I think he should be but we'll find out at 5pm.
Other option I can go is Rose from the Swans, but 40K more...
What is the job security of Joel Garner from Port like?
I haven't really considered him before today as I was set on getting Naish (already own Logue), but if Naish is dropped then Garner is the only rookie defender option playing this week.
I've been saying for weeks that Naish wouldn't play more than 4 games.
Hope you all listened! :)
Quote from: jbjimmyjb on June 28, 2019, 06:45:04 PM
I've been saying for weeks that Naish wouldn't play more than 4 games.
Hope you all listened! :)
Considering Dimma's history of rewarding form from young players, I'm very shocked he was dropped. Many worse holding their spots.
Quote from: MontyJnr on June 28, 2019, 12:48:54 PM
What is the job security of Joel Garner from Port like?
I haven't really considered him before today as I was set on getting Naish (already own Logue), but if Naish is dropped then Garner is the only rookie defender option playing this week.
Poor to say the least. I think he goes when Rocky comes back next week. Or if one of those senior players on the outside has a good game in the twos.
I need a forward downgrade this week, and it's between Kyron Hayden and Jarrod Cameron. Does anyone have any insight into who is the safer pick?
Cameron looked good in his first game I thought, but competition for spots with e.g. Rioli waiting in the wings would be tough. No idea about Hayden - anyone?
Quote from: dylanclements on June 29, 2019, 10:01:13 AM
I need a forward downgrade this week, and it's between Kyron Hayden and Jarrod Cameron. Does anyone have any insight into who is the safer pick?
Cameron looked good in his first game I thought, but competition for spots with e.g. Rioli waiting in the wings would be tough. No idea about Hayden - anyone?
Both have shaky job security in my opinion. Definitely wouldn't be pulling the trigger early.
Hayden could very easily be dropped for Hall, Tyson, Ahern or Garner. Macmillan also to return albeit in defense.
Cameron probably the better option of the two with Ainsworth, Venables and Petrucelle his competition.
Is Mabior Chol gonna hold his spot for the next few? Nanks is still a bit off isn’t he?
Quote from: smashbox on June 30, 2019, 10:49:27 PM
Is Mabior Chol gonna hold his spot for the next few? Nanks is still a bit off isn’t he?
AFL site says 3-4 weeks. So I'd say he is still a month away.
I don't think Chol is a must though. If it wasn't for the 3 goals...
Chol could be a good cash cow. But no one should be chasing cash cpws this time of year
Quote from: sammy123 on July 01, 2019, 12:21:29 AM
Chol could be a good cash cow. But no one should be chasing cash cpws this time of year
Why not?
If Jack is back this week, he may well get dropped based on fit (which would be a shame). I think he survives this week even if Jack returns but one bad game or if it proves we're too tall, he's gone.
Quote from: LaHug on July 01, 2019, 12:28:55 PM
If Jack is back this week, he may well get dropped based on fit (which would be a shame). I think he survives this week even if Jack returns but one bad game or if it proves we're too tall, he's gone.
The threat for Chol is Balta, can't afford to play both. At this stage Chol has cemented his spot for at least a couple of matches, beyond that who knows. If he was DPP I'd be all over him but can't afford a non-player on the forward bench. Fine if you're in it for the cash grab, could be a quick 150k.
Quote from: Bully on July 01, 2019, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 01, 2019, 12:28:55 PM
If Jack is back this week, he may well get dropped based on fit (which would be a shame). I think he survives this week even if Jack returns but one bad game or if it proves we're too tall, he's gone.
The threat for Chol is Balta, can't afford to play both. At this stage Chol has cemented his spot for at least a couple of matches, beyond that who knows. If he was DPP I'd be all over him but can't afford a non-player on the forward bench. Fine if you're in it for the cash grab, could be a quick 150k.
Balta is an additional threat but Chol was very much playing in the forward line and pinch-hitting in the ruck. If Riewoldt returns, we might not want three tall forwards. Jack can happily pinch-hit in the ruck and, if we don't want to go too tall, Balta and Chol might not play again this year unless someone's injured. He's earned a couple more matches but that means sweet flower all if it's a choice between him and Jack Riewoldt. Will be interesting to see what happens.
Quote from: LaHug on July 01, 2019, 12:37:49 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 01, 2019, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: LaHug on July 01, 2019, 12:28:55 PM
If Jack is back this week, he may well get dropped based on fit (which would be a shame). I think he survives this week even if Jack returns but one bad game or if it proves we're too tall, he's gone.
The threat for Chol is Balta, can't afford to play both. At this stage Chol has cemented his spot for at least a couple of matches, beyond that who knows. If he was DPP I'd be all over him but can't afford a non-player on the forward bench. Fine if you're in it for the cash grab, could be a quick 150k.
Balta is an additional threat but Chol was very much playing in the forward line and pinch-hitting in the ruck. If Riewoldt returns, we might not want three tall forwards. Jack can happily pinch-hit in the ruck and, if we don't want to go too tall, Balta and Chol might not play again this year unless someone's injured. He's earned a couple more matches but that means sweet flower all if it's a choice between him and Jack Riewoldt. Will be interesting to see what happens.
Tough to know, for me I'll be steering clear but if you can tough it out for the next 3 weeks could be an easy transition to say Mundy who looks ripe for the picking. In any case I smell a bit of carnage this round, time to call in the disaster capitalists I reckon.
Quote from: tor01doc on July 01, 2019, 01:39:02 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on July 01, 2019, 12:21:29 AM
Chol could be a good cash cow. But no one should be chasing cash cpws this time of year
Why not?
Double downgrade week this week providing Choi retains his spot which of course depends on Balta's form. Only chance for the Sabres is to win leagues so no rush on trades.
;)
Any mid/fwd DPP rookies worth looking at besides Cameron?
Quote from: tkringle on July 02, 2019, 05:48:20 PM
Any mid/fwd DPP rookies worth looking at besides Cameron?
Depends whether you want a scoring one or not or just to switch and sit at M11. If later then look at Hayden from North.
Quote from: Ringo on July 02, 2019, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: tkringle on July 02, 2019, 05:48:20 PM
Any mid/fwd DPP rookies worth looking at besides Cameron?
Depends whether you want a scoring one or not or just to switch and sit at M11. If later then look at Hayden from North.
https://m.afl.com.au/news/injury-list
Hayden is out for the season so don’t look at him
Quote from: LF on July 02, 2019, 07:02:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 02, 2019, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: tkringle on July 02, 2019, 05:48:20 PM
Any mid/fwd DPP rookies worth looking at besides Cameron?
Depends whether you want a scoring one or not or just to switch and sit at M11. If later then look at Hayden from North.
https://m.afl.com.au/news/injury-list (https://m.afl.com.au/news/injury-list)
Hayden is out for the season so don’t look at him
used cottrell instead, possible will get a game and reasonable loophole fixtures
Quote from: crowls on July 03, 2019, 12:17:27 AM
Quote from: LF on July 02, 2019, 07:02:17 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 02, 2019, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: tkringle on July 02, 2019, 05:48:20 PM
Any mid/fwd DPP rookies worth looking at besides Cameron?
Depends whether you want a scoring one or not or just to switch and sit at M11. If later then look at Hayden from North.
https://m.afl.com.au/news/injury-list (https://m.afl.com.au/news/injury-list)
Hayden is out for the season so don’t look at him
used cottrell instead, possible will get a game and reasonable loophole fixtures
I took (and broke) Hayden last week. Needed a $102k DPP. Sorry guys.
Hoping another cheap DPP falls from the SC skies.
Sadly, I need to bring a forward rookie in this week to cover Daniel for a little while. Times are tough!
Who would you guys bring in from the limited offerings?
There's a few named on extended benches, but Chol/Cameron is who I'm looking at.
Quote from: jfitty on July 04, 2019, 08:06:42 PM
Sadly, I need to bring a forward rookie in this week to cover Daniel for a little while. Times are tough!
Who would you guys bring in from the limited offerings?
There's a few named on extended benches, but Chol/Cameron is who I'm looking at.
Go Chol mate, would pick him myself but Gawn has thrown a spanner in the works.
Chol or Cameron for pure job security? I'm leaning towards Cameron if only to switch with Setters when I need.
Quote from: Ingram on July 04, 2019, 09:05:15 PM
Chol or Cameron for pure job security? I'm leaning towards Cameron if only to switch with Setters when I need.
I am going Cameron to open up mid-fwd DPP
Surely Chol is high risk with Jack Riewoldt due back next week?
Quote from: MontyJnr on July 04, 2019, 09:42:56 PM
Surely Chol is high risk with Jack Riewoldt due back next week?
Chol is playing Balta's role, giving the chop out for Soldo. Not sure Richmond will be keen to throw Jack in the ruck after the wretched year he's having. Chol also playing spare man in defence, a bit misleading the 3 goals as a couple of those were the product of his ruck work.
Quote from: jfitty on July 04, 2019, 08:06:42 PM
Sadly, I need to bring a forward rookie in this week to cover Daniel for a little while. Times are tough!
Who would you guys bring in from the limited offerings?
There's a few named on extended benches, but Chol/Cameron is who I'm looking at.
For those considering being a little creative in finding FWD/MID cover.... Zac Bailey from Brisbane is $216k at the moment and will likely drop to an upper-tier rookie price (around $190k) after this week.
I know that's a little pricey, but his price dropped like crazy after getting injured... then he returned only to get injured again and post a supercoach score of -4 (negative 4). He's back to being healthy now, and looked pretty good on the weekend.
The Lions love him and I think he has a decent chance to keep his spot for the rest of the season.
It would be a bit of a "left-field" choice and I don't know if I'll do it.... but possibly one to consider for people that wanna think outside the GNR box, so to speak.
Wow unlucky with Boak. Luckily I could get rid of Young for Cameron. Still a few trades up my sleeve.
Anyone know Hately time on ground on the weekend and week before? Is it quite low?
Kinda hoping Kelly or Conigs is out so he 1 stays in the team and 2 gets some mid minutes
Quote from: smashbox on July 09, 2019, 08:47:38 AM
Anyone know Hately time on ground on the weekend and week before? Is it quite low?
Kinda hoping Kelly or Conigs is out so he 1 stays in the team and 2 gets some mid minutes
All available in the AFL app.
Last week - 77%
Week before - 62%
Quote from: tkringle on July 10, 2019, 08:08:48 AM
Quote from: smashbox on July 09, 2019, 08:47:38 AM
Anyone know Hately time on ground on the weekend and week before? Is it quite low?
Kinda hoping Kelly or Conigs is out so he 1 stays in the team and 2 gets some mid minutes
All available in the AFL app.
Last week - 77%
Week before - 62%
And Kelly has already been ruled out for 3 weeks
Conigs expected to be fine
quaynor looked good. will he play the rest of the season? really need bench cover in def. especially with ryan being 50/50 to play this week
Quote from: Jimmykidd on July 12, 2019, 12:53:27 PM
quaynor looked good. will he play the rest of the season? really need bench cover in def. especially with ryan being 50/50 to play this week
Howe a possibility to push him out? Returns in a week according to the injury list
Quote from: tkringle on July 12, 2019, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: Jimmykidd on July 12, 2019, 12:53:27 PM
quaynor looked good. will he play the rest of the season? really need bench cover in def. especially with ryan being 50/50 to play this week
Howe a possibility to push him out? Returns in a week according to the injury list
yeah you could be right. cheers
Thoughts on hanrahan?
Quote from: backpocket on July 12, 2019, 06:42:41 PM
Thoughts on hanrahan?
As good as any this time of year I think...
Who are the main dangers for Derek Smith? Most the Es are forward type players. Smith even nicked a few kick ins from Houli last week, and 19 touches is handy, although it was against GC
Quote from: js19 on July 12, 2019, 07:29:29 PM
Quote from: backpocket on July 12, 2019, 06:42:41 PM
Thoughts on hanrahan?
As good as any this time of year I think...
Who are the main dangers for Derek Smith? Most the Es are forward type players. Smith even nicked a few kick ins from Houli last week, and 19 touches is handy, although it was against GC
Loved eggsy but players are so capable of being replaced by anyone these days. Naish was really good in his 2 games and was dropped with no reason. Wouldn’t surprise me if the same happened with eggsy. But I do think hes a talent.
Eggsy gone the moment Caddy or anyone else puts their hand up. Very much player number 22.
Worth getting Kyle Dunkley now
Or should I hang on and see how Snelling goes since he’s been named this week?
And would you say Snelling’s js would be safe ?
Snelling will play 100% next week (Vs GCS) and will hopefully hold his spot for the price rise. I joked to my misses that I might have two Essendon bench players next week :o :o
Who has the best job security out of all the current rookies yet to go up in price?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 14, 2019, 04:40:25 PM
stop farking asking what the js of rookies are
nobody bloody knows
if they play well they might keep their spot
if they dont they might get dropped
NOBODY flowerING KNOWS
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 24, 2019, 12:43:11 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 14, 2019, 04:40:25 PM
stop farking asking what the js of rookies are
nobody bloody knows
if they play well they might keep their spot
if they dont they might get dropped
NOBODY flowerING KNOWS
So what you’re trying to say is Ian Hill has the best job security? Not sure I agree with you man. Farkiiiiinnnggg n that hahahah
Quote from: Dmoney$ on July 24, 2019, 12:18:42 AM
Who has the best job security out of all the current rookies yet to go up in price?
The one who gets a game this week ...
Had a busy weekend, so I didn't get a chance to watch much footy.
Interested to hear people's opinions on whether I should bring in Snelling or Langlands.
How did they both look?
Anyone have strong opinions about one over the other?
Cheers in advance legends!
Quote from: brodiejay on July 30, 2019, 05:46:10 PM
Had a busy weekend, so I didn't get a chance to watch much footy.
Interested to hear people's opinions on whether I should bring in Snelling or Langlands.
How did they both look?
Anyone have strong opinions about one over the other?
Cheers in advance legends!
Very even. Both have AFL ready physiques. Same BE & probs same JS with the likes of Steven & Hanners at STK & Hepp & Orazio at ESS looking to come back in. Langlands is $6,600 dearer but pending selections I reckon him purely cos of DPP & probs better JS imo if you had to split hairs.
Quote from: HappyDEZ on July 30, 2019, 08:22:34 PM
Quote from: brodiejay on July 30, 2019, 05:46:10 PM
Had a busy weekend, so I didn't get a chance to watch much footy.
Interested to hear people's opinions on whether I should bring in Snelling or Langlands.
How did they both look?
Anyone have strong opinions about one over the other?
Cheers in advance legends!
Very even. Both have AFL ready physiques. Same BE & probs same JS with the likes of Steven & Hanners at STK & Hepp & Orazio at ESS looking to come back in. Langlands is $6,600 dearer but pending selections I reckon him purely cos of DPP & probs better JS imo if you had to split hairs.
Thanks Dezzy. That was pretty much the way I was leaning, and for those exact reasons. It also also seems like Snelling is playing a (less supercoach-dependable) pressure-forward role, and Langlands seems to be playing on-ball a bit more from what I could gather.
Like you said, probably just splitting hairs... but dpp and being picked on the wing gives Langlands the edge by a........ hair.
I'll show myself out. ;D
Appreciate the sounding-board mate. Sometimes it's just good to hear someone else echo your thinking, so you know you're not making a foolish decision. Cheers.
So Langlands is the pick of the rookies this week?
Quote from: jfitty on August 02, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
So Langlands is the pick of the rookies this week?
Consider Birchall ...
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Quote from: jfitty on August 02, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
So Langlands is the pick of the rookies this week?
Consider Birchall ...
Got him already
Why would you people get Birchall ahahaha
because when he plays he puts up almost premo numbers.
Sorry, i forgot that SC only counts for 2.5 weeks each season
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Quote from: jfitty on August 02, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
So Langlands is the pick of the rookies this week?
Consider Birchall ...
Got him already
Why would you people get Birchall ahahaha
because when he plays he puts up almost premo numbers.
Sorry, i forgot that SC only counts for 2.5 weeks each season
If you got him as a downgrade option/cover in the last couple of rounds how is it relevant that he didn't play earlier in the season?
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Quote from: jfitty on August 02, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
So Langlands is the pick of the rookies this week?
Consider Birchall ...
Got him already
Why would you people get Birchall ahahaha
because when he plays he puts up almost premo numbers.
Sorry, i forgot that SC only counts for 2.5 weeks each season
If you got him as a downgrade option/cover in the last couple of rounds how is it relevant that he didn't play earlier in the season?
Because he's already injured in like his 3rd game?
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Quote from: jfitty on August 02, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
So Langlands is the pick of the rookies this week?
Consider Birchall ...
Got him already
Why would you people get Birchall ahahaha
because when he plays he puts up almost premo numbers.
Sorry, i forgot that SC only counts for 2.5 weeks each season
That was the risk with picking him. Could have paid off big
Last Downgrade is for a bench defender and will only be required if there's a late out.
Any advice on who's likely to score more if needed as cover.... Changkuoth Jiath (Hawthorne), or Caleb Graham (Gold Coast)?
Graham has been named at fullback, and looked serviceable down back against the resting rucks (McInerney or Stef Martin for Brisbane), but I didn't see the Hawthorne game.
Doesn't really matter in the scheme of things obviously, but just wondered how Jiath looked in his first game?