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I don't claim to be an expert like most of the other hacks on this forum. Instead I'm simply the best poster on this entire forum and pride myself on this.

As a testament to this I went and watched the ENTIRE Essendon intra-club game and calculated Jake Stringer's complete stats. The results? He is an absolute flowering lock in all formats and you are undoubtedly insane if you don't start him!

Jakey Stringer stats by quarter:

1st Quarter:
3 kicks 1 handball 1 mark 1 tackle 1 behind 19DT 17SC

2nd Quarter:
3 kicks 0 handballs 2 tackles 1 goal 1freefor 24DT 35SC

3rd Quarter:
2 kicks 1 handball 1tackle 1 goal 18DT 21SC

4th Quarter:
1 kick 2 handballs 1 mark 10DT 12SC

Final Stats:
9 kicks 4 handballs 2 marks 4 tackles 2 goals 1 behind 1 free for 0 frees against 71 DT 85 SC

SC Relevant Stats:
6 effective kicks 2 ineffective 1 clanger
6 handball receives
3 gathers from hitouts

Now before you say he "died" in the 4th you should know that the 4th only went for 15 minutes instead of the usual 30 and Jakey sat out the last 10-12 minutes of the game. What I'm saying is that Jakey recorded this legendary statline in just over 3 quarters. Which makes him even more of a lock!

Now just think about how much Jakey's tank will improve given the fact that there is still over 5 weeks until round 1! Can I say lock any louder?

Also don't forget that SC scores get sacled and Jakey 100% would have been scaled in this one!

Levi's Prediction for Jakey in 2k18:
10 kicks 6 handballs 16 disposals 5 marks 3 tackles 2 goals 1 behind 1 free for 1 free against
80 DT
86 SC

Even more evidence of an absolute lock:
- Jakey Stringer in SC is priced at $356,000 from an average of 64.8. Jakey Stringer will easily average 85+ in SC which makes him undervalued by 111k. Would you rather the absolute lock Jakey Stringer or a hack like Tom J Lynch or Brownlow choke artist Travis Boak? I know I'd much and totally prefer 2 Jakey Stringers!

- In AF Jakey is priced at 57.2 with a price of 403k. In AF/DT a conservative estimate of 80 is fair for him. Meaning he is about 23 points underpriced. Since AF is a putrid joke of a comp that evaluates to a 160k saved on if you were to start a spud like Michael Walters or that human microscope Darcy Parish. 

False arguments you might have in your mind but should know are totally and utterly false:
1. " yeah good poinTs  levii bUUTTTTT  sstringer wont kick 2 goals a game.~!!""

- Levi says: Correct, he'll actually get more! In fact Stringer has kicked 54 and 37 goals before in his career and despite a horror year last year he still averaged 1.5 goals a game. 2 goals a game is a conservative estimate for him.


2. " nice rite-up leVII   bbUUTTTTT  JAKEYY  wonnt get  16 touches! a game!!!""

- Levi says: I don't think there is any doubt Jakey is in for a career best year. Jakey has averaged 15 and 14 touches a game previously in his career and will easily average just a few more and get 16+.


3. "goood werk  levi  butt i  can''t trust  stringer in  sc i recon he is a  butter  dTer...""

- Levi says: Jakey Stringer is an excellent DT pick as I have already stated however Jakey Stringer's SC has always been better than his DT every single year. In fact over his 5 year career it's an average of 6.4 better SC than DT. Which unironically reflects my 80DT to 86SC prediction.

Conclusion:
- Jake Lloyd = Not a lock.
- Dustin Martin = Not a lock.
- Jake Stringer = Undisputed lock should be in your team otherwise you shouldn't be playing any fantasy comps.

That's a big sales pitch based on a practice game, one of the reasons Stringer got sacked from the Dogs is that he's a lazy trainer, to suggest he's suddenly ready to play midfield is a huge leap of faith. An 86 average is also setting the bar awfully low. Think 90+ is the bare minimum and I'd be focusing on getting all the 100+ players first. He's no cash cow either, might make 70k or so but that will take time.

Interesting you mention Boak, he's the bloke I'd be picking.

ROFL  ;D

Thanks for the info but still not interested.

Keeper? No
Will generate a 30ppg price rise? No

Dud

He is all yours ;)

Why did he sit out most of the last quarter tho? Still needs to improve his tank I'd say.
Plus he was playing against half a good team as happens in all intra-clubs as opposed to say a whole Geelong or Sydney team.
Look as a Bombers supporter I hope he kills it, but if 80 or 85 is your generous prediction is that worth it over a 400+ player who can go 90-95?
You've convinced yourself bit not sure why u are selling him to us if u want a POD.
I'm not totally ruling him out, let's see how he goes in JLT.

Not a chance.

Quote from: Bully on February 11, 2018, 05:31:47 PM
That's a big sales pitch based on a practice game, one of the reasons Stringer got sacked from the Dogs is that he's a lazy trainer, to suggest he's suddenly ready to play midfield is a huge leap of faith.

Maybe you should watch the intraclub and see how many times he starts in the centre bounce. Probably something ELSE I should have done but it was definitely more than 5.

Quote from: ubeaut on February 11, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
Why did he sit out most of the last quarter tho? Still needs to improve his tank I'd say.

Cause all guns sit out the final quarter of practice games.

Quote from: ubeaut on February 11, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
Plus he was playing against half a good team as happens in all intra-clubs as opposed to say a whole Geelong or Sydney team.

You'd obviously bench him against the Cats, Mackie will do a number on him. The Bombers don't play Sydney until round 19 so you'd think you'd either have upgraded Jakey to Joey Daniher(another 86 ave spuds) or have the option to emg loophole Jakey on.

Quote from: SilverLion on February 11, 2018, 07:08:01 PM
Not a chance.

Not even 0.01%? Wait hold on this isn't the "predict your chances of winning the comp overall" thread.


Listen people, I don't expect Jakey to be the best forward in the comp. I don't even expect him to be a keeper. He's just a good option to consider as a midpriced guy who could go big. If you start Jakey for 356K and he averages 90+ over the first 7 rounds making quick bank. You can easily sideways him to someone you "trust" more and you're laughing!

I mean if you're gonna start guys like; Lobb, Hogan, Matho, Rioli, Wells, Petracca, Ah Chee, Christensen, Bennell then you may as well be considering Stringer. Who by the way actually has footage and stats we can analyse this preseason unlike every other player I listed...

Quote from: Levi434 on February 11, 2018, 07:35:56 PM
Not even 0.01%? Wait hold on this isn't the "predict your chances of winning the comp overall" thread.

If there were such a thread my statement would be true in that as well ;D

Quote from: Levi434 on February 11, 2018, 07:35:56 PM
I mean if you're gonna start guys like; Lobb, Hogan, Matho, Rioli, Wells, Petracca, Ah Chee, Christensen, Bennell then you may as well be considering Stringer. Who by the way actually has footage and stats we can analyse this preseason unlike every other player I listed...

Lobb - If #1 ruck, certainty for 90+
Hogan - Who is considering him?
Matho - Same as Hogan, but even so is improving and will no doubt average more than he did last year.
Rioli - Proven scoerer
Wells - Proven scorer
Petracca - Improving same as Matho
Ah Chee - Cheap and should get mid time
Christensen - Cheap and has shown scoring potential
Bennell - Same as Christo

Stringer? - Smith is more expensive and more likely to go 90+, whilst Christensen is cheaper and will make money more easily. Why pick the guy with the most unknown priced in the middle?

Quote from: Levi434 on February 11, 2018, 07:35:56 PM

Quote from: Bully on February 11, 2018, 05:31:47 PM
That's a big sales pitch based on a practice game, one of the reasons Stringer got sacked from the Dogs is that he's a lazy trainer, to suggest he's suddenly ready to play midfield is a huge leap of faith.

Maybe you should watch the intraclub and see how many times he starts in the centre bounce. Probably something ELSE I should have done but it was definitely more than 5.

Quote from: ubeaut on February 11, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
Why did he sit out most of the last quarter tho? Still needs to improve his tank I'd say.

Cause all guns sit out the final quarter of practice games.

Quote from: ubeaut on February 11, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
Plus he was playing against half a good team as happens in all intra-clubs as opposed to say a whole Geelong or Sydney team.

You'd obviously bench him against the Cats, Mackie will do a number on him. The Bombers don't play Sydney until round 19 so you'd think you'd either have upgraded Jakey to Joey Daniher(another 86 ave spuds) or have the option to emg loophole Jakey on.

Quote from: SilverLion on February 11, 2018, 07:08:01 PM
Not a chance.

Not even 0.01%? Wait hold on this isn't the "predict your chances of winning the comp overall" thread.


Listen people, I don't expect Jakey to be the best forward in the comp. I don't even expect him to be a keeper. He's just a good option to consider as a midpriced guy who could go big. If you start Jakey for 356K and he averages 90+ over the first 7 rounds making quick bank. You can easily sideways him to someone you "trust" more and you're laughing!

I mean if you're gonna start guys like; Lobb, Hogan, Matho, Rioli, Wells, Petracca, Ah Chee, Christensen, Bennell then you may as well be considering Stringer. Who by the way actually has footage and stats we can analyse this preseason unlike every other player I listed...

I've watched plenty of Stringer and he's often a lazy showboat. When I look at Toby McLean who came into the Dogs side with appalling endurance, I see a bloke who has worked his butt off to crack the midfield. Stringer on the other hand has coasted along without applying himself like a professional athlete.

I watched the intraclub game (see my full write up on the Essendon board) and Stringer genuinely was probably tied for BOG with Dev Smith. Like obviously you have to take into account it wouldn't have been as good of competition as a real game or even a JLT game, but his skills were top notch and his role seems pretty good for fantasy - both playing in the guts as well as his forward role. Screams of Dusty.

I'm not going to go out and guarantee a 110 average or whatever Dusty does, but I'm confident Stringer will really lift his game and, therefore, fantasy averages and generate a lot of cash - and maybe even be a keeper. He has huge upside, but obviously comes with risks (such as his career averages being underwhelming - 47, 69, 78, 75, 65 in SC). I don't have him in my side atm but a couple more good indicators and he's probably going to be in. 90+ is definitely not out of the question.

But on the other hand, I always want Devon Smith and Parish just as bad for their great seasons to come :X

Quote from: Jukes on February 11, 2018, 08:26:38 PM
I watched the intraclub game (see my full write up on the Essendon board) and Stringer genuinely was probably tied for BOG with Dev Smith. Like obviously you have to take into account it wouldn't have been as good of competition as a real game or even a JLT game, but his skills were top notch and his role seems pretty good for fantasy - both playing in the guts as well as his forward role. Screams of Dusty.

I'm not going to go out and guarantee a 110 average or whatever Dusty does, but I'm confident Stringer will really lift his game and, therefore, fantasy averages and generate a lot of cash - and maybe even be a keeper. He has huge upside, but obviously comes with risks (such as his career averages being underwhelming - 47, 69, 78, 75, 65 in SC). I don't have him in my side atm but a couple more good indicators and he's probably going to be in. 90+ is definitely not out of the question.

But on the other hand, I always want Devon Smith and Parish just as bad for their great seasons to come :X

If Stringer gets his average up to 90+ over 6-7 rounds I'll have a look but he's pretty risky to start with.

As a Bombers supporter I hope he kills it, but I don’t see him being a keeper. Will make cash, but I see Smith averaging 95+ and will be a keeper. Will average more possessions and tackles, plus kicks goals too.

You pick Stringer as a keeper

To make 100k he will have to average low 90's, if you're trading out forwards who are averaging over 90 you're probably number one haha

I'll only consider him if the rookie situation is flowered

Love you Levi xoxo

Quote from: Bully on February 11, 2018, 08:52:25 PM

Quote from: Jukes on February 11, 2018, 08:26:38 PM
I watched the intraclub game (see my full write up on the Essendon board) and Stringer genuinely was probably tied for BOG with Dev Smith. Like obviously you have to take into account it wouldn't have been as good of competition as a real game or even a JLT game, but his skills were top notch and his role seems pretty good for fantasy - both playing in the guts as well as his forward role. Screams of Dusty.

I'm not going to go out and guarantee a 110 average or whatever Dusty does, but I'm confident Stringer will really lift his game and, therefore, fantasy averages and generate a lot of cash - and maybe even be a keeper. He has huge upside, but obviously comes with risks (such as his career averages being underwhelming - 47, 69, 78, 75, 65 in SC). I don't have him in my side atm but a couple more good indicators and he's probably going to be in. 90+ is definitely not out of the question.

But on the other hand, I always want Devon Smith and Parish just as bad for their great seasons to come :X

If Stringer gets his average up to 90+ over 6-7 rounds I'll have a look but he's pretty risky to start with.

He sure is the embodiment of risk, and I'm probably not going to start him to hedge my bets (if he does good then it's good for the dons!) - as opposed to my boy Dev Smith who I know is going to gun it so I'm locking him in anyway ;D

Quote from: GoLions on February 11, 2018, 09:52:15 PM
Love you Levi xoxo

I love you more GL  :-* Almost as much as I love Jakey Stringer!

Listen to Jukes as well lads. He actually knows his stuff.

Awesome writeup Levi,

As some others have said you pick Stringer as a premium, he won't make enough cash to be a cash cow or solid stepping stone. You only pick him if you are thinking he will go 90+ and even then you want to minimise the other risky picks if you do that.

Love the intra-club analysis.

Uploaded this one today for anyone interested. Cheers, Shorty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGheIQbzt2k&t=51s

It's Stringer time!

No it's not ;D

Of dear, 20% of coaches will be slightly nervous.

Looks completely out of place in the middle. I'd rather pick Lumumba again.

I'm bitterly disappointed that Stringer flopped today, now all the coaches on board will jump off! Would've been much more entertaining to see back to back tons in JLT and then a pack of 40s from Round One onwards  >:(

Anyone considering starting him should keep in in their sides.

Just eliminates a huge chunk of the competition competing for the 50k

Schache would probably be a better midfielder.

I'll resurrect this thread for all the bandwagon jumpers.

Quote from: HoleMeal on March 11, 2018, 02:31:25 PM
I'll resurrect this thread for all the bandwagon jumpers.

Haha he probably won't even get 80 from here.

Quote from: HoleMeal on March 11, 2018, 02:31:25 PM
I'll resurrect this thread for all the bandwagon jumpers.

Thanks for the reminder, I almost forgot. Back in my team!

Rubbish!! Enough said....

Has done 2 good things today (2 goals) and a whole lot of rubbish.

Spent most of the game in the middle running around with Jelwood and Dunan who at 3/4 time have had 27 and 29 disposals respectively.

I don't think Stringer is in our best 22 on what I have seen so far.

Quote from: AaronKirk on March 11, 2018, 04:05:59 PM
Has done 2 good things today (2 goals) and a whole lot of rubbish.

Spent most of the game in the middle running around with Jelwood and Dunan who at 3/4 time have had 27 and 29 disposals respectively.

I don't think Stringer is in our best 22 on what I have seen so far.

He is a forward not a mid. I don't know why we got him to play mid just cos we need a bigger body and he is that.
He is much better off as another fwd goal kicking weapon, that's what he does best. Could do well as a foil for Daniher,Hooker,Stewart. Would also allow Hooker to play down back at times if needed.
He won't last as a midfield experiment.

Quote from: meow meow on February 25, 2018, 10:25:56 PM
Schache would probably be a better midfielder.

Schache cant even touch the ball let alone kick a goal. Not saying Stringer is a mid as he’s clearly not, but 2.2 was not a bad effort.

Stringer had more Centre Bounce Attendances than any other Essendon mid today (courtesy of Freako on twitter) and his only influence in that role was giving showerloads of free kicks to Selwood and Duncan.

He either contributes with more disposals as an 80/20 Fwd Mid or he plays VFL. Completely irrelevant fantasy-wise.

Quote from: AaronKirk on March 11, 2018, 06:55:42 PM
Stringer had more Centre Bounce Attendances than any other Essendon mid today (courtesy of Freako on twitter) and his only influence in that role was giving showerloads of free kicks to Selwood and Duncan.

He either contributes with more disposals as an 80/20 Fwd Mid or he plays VFL. Completely irrelevant fantasy-wise.

Just doesn't know how to run like a midfielder yet. Generally the last to leave a stoppage today for what i saw

Rule #1 of SC = Ignore all pre season results besides rooks observations

Surprises me to see seasoned coaches on FF still not getting this

Actually...no it doesn't surprise me...every year at this time its the same old laughs to be had around here

Quote from: bowyanger on March 11, 2018, 08:30:13 PM
Rule #1 of SC = Ignore all pre season results besides rooks observations

Surprises me to see seasoned coaches on FF still not getting this

Actually...no it doesn't surprise me...every year at this time its the same old laughs to be had around here

Positional changes, and new clubs have to be considered

Stringer is nowhere near a proven prem that gets a pass from us in JLT

I'd be shocked if anyone picks him

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2018, 08:40:07 PM
Positional changes, and new clubs have to be considered

Quote from: bowyanger on March 11, 2018, 08:30:13 PM
Rule #1 of SC = Ignore all pre season results besides rooks observations

Surprises me to see seasoned coaches on FF still not getting this

Actually...no it doesn't surprise me...every year at this time its the same old laughs to be had around here

Nah. Rule no.1? There are no rules.