Poll
Question:
Which mid 200 player will have the highest EOY total and average
Option 1: H Bennell
votes: 12
Option 2: G Birchall
votes: 8
Option 3: A Christensen
votes: 6
Ok. Bennell is currently F5 and Birchall not in my team. Have a rookie at D4.
Have enough cash for one mid 200 injury returnee.
who should it be and why?
Bennell is a 100+ quality player, right in middle of physical peak period. Still has a lot to prove to Freo and himself. Also not proven as resilient yet. Could trade out in Byes if he goes down.
Birchall should be consistent and see him as a 80-85 average and being older may not recover as well as Bennell or Christensen.
Christensen has only one season of 22 games and few over 90 average and never made 2000 points in a season. Not in my consideration at all. My cash cows will be rookies..
I like them all but have the most faith in Birchall of the 3
What's EOY stand for?
Subject to no injuries- Bennell
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2017, 07:15:52 AM
Subject to no injuries- Bennell
So i take it that you won't be starting Bennell then :p
Why not get them all? They'll all bounce back to premo status and play 22 matches, guaranteed.
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 01:57:58 PM
Why not get them all? They'll all bounce back to premo status and play 22 matches, guaranteed.
i will be surprised if any of them play 22 matches, 20 @ 100 from bennell is the goal.
Quote from: GoLions on December 20, 2017, 10:47:27 AM
Quote from: Peter on December 20, 2017, 07:15:52 AM
Subject to no injuries- Bennell
So i take it that you won't be starting Bennell then :p
2011 - 14 games
2012 - 22 games :o
2013 - 15 games
2014 - 15 games
2015 - 15 games
2016 - DNP
2017 - 2 games
What are the chances he get's rested if he actually manages to string a few games together.
Birchall 20 games at an 80 average
Bennell 18 games at a 100 average
Christensen 15 games at a 90 average
Is what I am thinking
Bennell is the one I like as I don't think it is that unfathomable that he plays every game up until his bye before being rested for a week or two before/after. He has shown he is a scorer and if he plays he has every chance to go 100+.
Birchall I am confident in playing close to a full season but clearly he has the lowest ceiling of all mentioned players.
Christensen I am not considering at this stage either needs to prove him self over JLT
Bennell is 0 chance of averaging 100. ZERO CHANCE.
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
Bennell is 0 chance of averaging 100. ZERO CHANCE.
Big call considering he has done it before.
Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
Bennell is 0 chance of averaging 100. ZERO CHANCE.
Big call considering he has done it before.
He had some sort of continuity behind him then, he's barely played since. Looked like Morabito not Harley Bennell last year too. There's only so much a preseason can do.
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
Bennell is 0 chance of averaging 100. ZERO CHANCE.
Big call considering he has done it before.
He had some sort of continuity behind him then, he's barely played since. Looked like Morabito not Harley Bennell last year too. There's only so much a preseason can do.
Fair enough, guess we will wait and see ;)
If bennell can just go 80+ then he is a good pick up and realistically he can do less as long as he has a 2-3 big game patch where he goes up in price.
If they all start Rd. 1, I think most people would be tempted to start at least 2/3.
Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2017, 03:23:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
Bennell is 0 chance of averaging 100. ZERO CHANCE.
Big call considering he has done it before.
He had some sort of continuity behind him then, he's barely played since. Looked like Morabito not Harley Bennell last year too. There's only so much a preseason can do.
Fair enough, guess we will wait and see ;)
As MS highlighted, if he averages over 90 or near 100 by the byes we will be getting a good result and trade up option which for a f4/5 is good outcome.
Quote from: crowls on December 21, 2017, 11:11:36 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2017, 03:23:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
Bennell is 0 chance of averaging 100. ZERO CHANCE.
Big call considering he has done it before.
He had some sort of continuity behind him then, he's barely played since. Looked like Morabito not Harley Bennell last year too. There's only so much a preseason can do.
Fair enough, guess we will wait and see ;)
As MS highlighted, if he averages over 90 or near 100 by the byes we will be getting a good result and trade up option which for a f4/5 is good outcome.
Zero chance that anyone would trade out a forward averaging 100.
Quote from: meow meow on January 10, 2018, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: crowls on December 21, 2017, 11:11:36 AM
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Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
Bennell is 0 chance of averaging 100. ZERO CHANCE.
Big call considering he has done it before.
He had some sort of continuity behind him then, he's barely played since. Looked like Morabito not Harley Bennell last year too. There's only so much a preseason can do.
Fair enough, guess we will wait and see ;)
As MS highlighted, if he averages over 90 or near 100 by the byes we will be getting a good result and trade up option which for a f4/5 is good outcome.
Zero chance that anyone would trade out a forward averaging 100.
Way it looks now Meow, there is a very small chance we will be doing anything in SC with Bennell. Need a huge turnaround in outlook for him to accept his medicine and use the opportunity to develop some maturity. Really hope he does.
Quote from: crowls on January 10, 2018, 11:37:04 PM
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Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 20, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 20, 2017, 03:10:07 PM
Bennell is 0 chance of averaging 100. ZERO CHANCE.
Big call considering he has done it before.
He had some sort of continuity behind him then, he's barely played since. Looked like Morabito not Harley Bennell last year too. There's only so much a preseason can do.
Fair enough, guess we will wait and see ;)
As MS highlighted, if he averages over 90 or near 100 by the byes we will be getting a good result and trade up option which for a f4/5 is good outcome.
Zero chance that anyone would trade out a forward averaging 100.
Way it looks now Meow, there is a very small chance we will be doing anything in SC with Bennell. Need a huge turnaround in outlook for him to accept his medicine and use the opportunity to develop some maturity. Really hope he does.[/size]
Used the actual font size to match his care factor towards his talent it seems... apt
Can I change my vote? :-[
Can't believe only 2 others voted for Bundy.
Bennell won't play anywhere near 22, if at all.
Birchall is as good a chance no doubt, but is likely to average slightly less (IMO). However, could easily have the highest EOY as I see him as the most likely to play all 22.
Bundy should average 80-85+, if he plays at least 16 odd games he will prove a value pick.
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Can't believe only 2 others voted for Bundy.
Bennell won't play anywhere near 22, if at all.
Birchall is as good a chance no doubt, but is likely to average slightly less (IMO). However, could easily have the highest EOY as I see him as the most likely to play all 22.
Bundy should average 80-85+, if he plays at least 16 odd games he will prove a value pick.
Most people (including myself) voted for Bennell before we found out about off field issues arising yet again. In saying that, Christensen is a much higher chance of scoring more than Birchall I would say.
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Can't believe only 2 others voted for Bundy.
Bennell won't play anywhere near 22, if at all.
Birchall is as good a chance no doubt, but is likely to average slightly less (IMO). However, could easily have the highest EOY as I see him as the most likely to play all 22.
Bundy should average 80-85+, if he plays at least 16 odd games he will prove a value pick.
Most people (including myself) voted for Bennell before we found out about off field issues arising yet again. In saying that, Christensen is a much higher chance of scoring more than Birchall I would say.
Now that Bennell is done, Ah Chee will be most likely starter of mid 200's for my team. Not convinced of the value of Bundy or Birchall and Bennell is likely to turn up drunk to half the peel games.
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Can't believe only 2 others voted for Bundy.
Bennell won't play anywhere near 22, if at all.
Birchall is as good a chance no doubt, but is likely to average slightly less (IMO). However, could easily have the highest EOY as I see him as the most likely to play all 22.
Bundy should average 80-85+, if he plays at least 16 odd games he will prove a value pick.
Most people (including myself) voted for Bennell before we found out about off field issues arising yet again. In saying that, Christensen is a much higher chance of scoring more than Birchall I would say.
Fair enough, but did you think Bennell was likely to play 22 beforehand?
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 11:11:32 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Can't believe only 2 others voted for Bundy.
Bennell won't play anywhere near 22, if at all.
Birchall is as good a chance no doubt, but is likely to average slightly less (IMO). However, could easily have the highest EOY as I see him as the most likely to play all 22.
Bundy should average 80-85+, if he plays at least 16 odd games he will prove a value pick.
Most people (including myself) voted for Bennell before we found out about off field issues arising yet again. In saying that, Christensen is a much higher chance of scoring more than Birchall I would say.
Fair enough, but did you think Bennell was likely to play 22 beforehand?
I don't think any of them would be playing 22. I thought he was a decent chance of playing 8-9 games at a 90 average before trading too a fallen premium however.
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:16:29 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 11:11:32 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Can't believe only 2 others voted for Bundy.
Bennell won't play anywhere near 22, if at all.
Birchall is as good a chance no doubt, but is likely to average slightly less (IMO). However, could easily have the highest EOY as I see him as the most likely to play all 22. Same plan MS, very confident he would be a great stepping stone. cie la vie!
Bundy should average 80-85+, if he plays at least 16 odd games he will prove a value pick.
Most people (including myself) voted for Bennell before we found out about off field issues arising yet again. In saying that, Christensen is a much higher chance of scoring more than Birchall I would say.
Fair enough, but did you think Bennell was likely to play 22 beforehand?
I don't think any of them would be playing 22. I thought he was a decent chance of playing 8-9 games at a 90 average before trading too a fallen premium however.
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:16:29 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 11:11:32 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Can't believe only 2 others voted for Bundy.
Bennell won't play anywhere near 22, if at all.
Birchall is as good a chance no doubt, but is likely to average slightly less (IMO). However, could easily have the highest EOY as I see him as the most likely to play all 22.
Bundy should average 80-85+, if he plays at least 16 odd games he will prove a value pick.
Most people (including myself) voted for Bennell before we found out about off field issues arising yet again. In saying that, Christensen is a much higher chance of scoring more than Birchall I would say.
Fair enough, but did you think Bennell was likely to play 22 beforehand?
I don't think any of them would be playing 22. I thought he was a decent chance of playing 8-9 games at a 90 average before trading too a fallen premium however.
Yeah feel thats what a lot of people would do, regardless of how many games they end up playing. So no WHE equivalent this year it would seem. Maybe Ah Chee?
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:16:29 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 11:11:32 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Can't believe only 2 others voted for Bundy.
Bennell won't play anywhere near 22, if at all.
Birchall is as good a chance no doubt, but is likely to average slightly less (IMO). However, could easily have the highest EOY as I see him as the most likely to play all 22.
Bundy should average 80-85+, if he plays at least 16 odd games he will prove a value pick.
Most people (including myself) voted for Bennell before we found out about off field issues arising yet again. In saying that, Christensen is a much higher chance of scoring more than Birchall I would say.
Fair enough, but did you think Bennell was likely to play 22 beforehand?
I don't think any of them would be playing 22. I thought he was a decent chance of playing 8-9 games at a 90 average before trading too a fallen premium however.
Yeah feel thats what a lot of people would do, regardless of how many games they end up playing. So no WHE equivalent this year it would seem. Maybe Ah Chee?
Yeah if you were looking for a WHE equivelent Ah Chee would be the biggest resemblance. I am not sold on him at this stage but can see why people are excited.
Dunkley and McCluggage are 2 others that i expect to breakout but are around that 300k mark which makes them less enticing.
I am sold on Christensen for now. Has averaged 85 across a season while playing for the lions and is 27 so he is at his peak. If he stays fit up until round 8-9 and averages 80+ I will be happy and at this stage I am confident that he will be able to do that.
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:16:29 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 11:11:32 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 11, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 11, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Can't believe only 2 others voted for Bundy.
Bennell won't play anywhere near 22, if at all.
Birchall is as good a chance no doubt, but is likely to average slightly less (IMO). However, could easily have the highest EOY as I see him as the most likely to play all 22.
Bundy should average 80-85+, if he plays at least 16 odd games he will prove a value pick.
Most people (including myself) voted for Bennell before we found out about off field issues arising yet again. In saying that, Christensen is a much higher chance of scoring more than Birchall I would say.
Fair enough, but did you think Bennell was likely to play 22 beforehand?
I don't think any of them would be playing 22. I thought he was a decent chance of playing 8-9 games at a 90 average before trading too a fallen premium however.
Yeah feel thats what a lot of people would do, regardless of how many games they end up playing. So no WHE equivalent this year it would seem. Maybe Ah Chee?
Yeah if you were looking for a WHE equivelent Ah Chee would be the biggest resemblance. I am not sold on him at this stage but can see why people are excited.
Dunkley and McCluggage are 2 others that i expect to breakout but are around that 300k mark which makes them less enticing.
I am sold on Christensen for now. Has averaged 85 across a season while playing for the lions and is 27 so he is at his peak. If he stays fit up until round 8-9 and averages 80+ I will be happy and at this stage I am confident that he will be able to do that.
+1
Also agreed on Dunkley and McCluggage, both show a lot of promise.
Or you know, you could just grab Griffen/JOM/Armitage and bring in an extra premo forward like Buddy instead of a maybe premo mid like Cripps + Ah Chee/Christensen combo.
Quote from: meow meow on January 11, 2018, 01:32:37 PM
Or you know, you could just grab Griffen/JOM/Armitage and bring in an extra premo forward like Buddy instead of a maybe premo mid like Cripps + Ah Chee/Christensen combo.
Cripps 105 + Ah Chee 75
Franklin 95 + Griffin 85
Same points but you get a top 6 forward and more money making...
sounds smart.
McLuggage or Witherden?
Quote from: Peter on January 12, 2018, 07:56:47 AM
McLuggage or Witherden?
WitherGOAT.
But aren't they different price brackets and different positions?
Quote from: SilverLion on January 12, 2018, 09:50:36 AM
Quote from: Peter on January 12, 2018, 07:56:47 AM
McLuggage or Witherden?
WitherGOAT.
But aren't they different price brackets and different positions?
Probably just wants to know which of the two Brisbane rookies will step it up more this season. Witherden has shown more so if you were to choose one, would have to be him.
Quote from: Huttabito on January 12, 2018, 11:36:05 AM
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McLuggage or Witherden?
WitherGOAT.
But aren't they different price brackets and different positions?
Probably just wants to know which of the two Brisbane rookies will step it up more this season. Witherden has shown more so if you were to choose one, would have to be him.
Well Jack Graham is $19,000 cheaper, and IMO better than McLuggage, so Witherden would have to be the one. Wondering though, If Hodge plays half back would that have a positive or negative effect on Wither's scoring. What is your opinion Ringo ??
;)
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Quote from: Peter on January 12, 2018, 07:56:47 AM
McLuggage or Witherden?
WitherGOAT.
But aren't they different price brackets and different positions?
Probably just wants to know which of the two Brisbane rookies will step it up more this season. Witherden has shown more so if you were to choose one, would have to be him.
Well Jack Graham is $19,000 cheaper, and IMO better than McLuggage, so Witherden would have to be the one. Wondering though, If Hodge plays half back would that have a positive or negative effect on Wither's scoring. What is your opinion Ringo ??
;)
Do not think Hodge will effect Withos scoring at all. If anything his on filed leadership will assist him as remember he has only played 9 games. My concern is that because of his precise kicking which is where he picks up points some teams may start to put pressure on him and remember only19 and still developing physically. Still needs to put on a bit more bulk as well when compared to 3rd and 4th year players at the club.
Expect he will be the kick in specialist although need to watch where Rich is played as well.
Quote from: Ringo on January 12, 2018, 02:46:29 PM
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Quote from: Huttabito on January 12, 2018, 11:36:05 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 12, 2018, 09:50:36 AM
Quote from: Peter on January 12, 2018, 07:56:47 AM
McLuggage or Witherden?
WitherGOAT.
But aren't they different price brackets and different positions?
Probably just wants to know which of the two Brisbane rookies will step it up more this season. Witherden has shown more so if you were to choose one, would have to be him.
Well Jack Graham is $19,000 cheaper, and IMO better than McLuggage, so Witherden would have to be the one. Wondering though, If Hodge plays half back would that have a positive or negative effect on Wither's scoring. What is your opinion Ringo ??
;)
Do not think Hodge will effect Withos scoring at all. If anything his on filed leadership will assist him as remember he has only played 9 games. My concern is that because of his precise kicking which is where he picks up points some teams may start to put pressure on him and remember only19 and still developing physically. Still needs to put on a bit more bulk as well when compared to 3rd and 4th year players at the club.
Expect he will be the kick in specialist although need to watch where Rich is played as well.
Fwiw as a lions supporter myself I tend to agree with Ringo that Hodge coming into the side won't have any direct impact on his scoring output. I too expect him to become our designated kick-in taker.
Both are in the $400’s, but do you go for the extra back or forward in your SC tram