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Title: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 18, 2017, 02:34:53 PM
Better get those bids for Lester and Vardy in.

Also be sure to discuss why Dayne Zorko and Dayne Zorko's sister came up as related searches when I typed Ryan Lester in Google images.

Also discuss why Rhys Stanley and Cam Guthrie came up when I searched Nathan Vardy. Is it a sign that Pacific should be after Vardy?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 18, 2017, 02:37:05 PM
Quote from: Jay on August 18, 2017, 01:32:57 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on August 18, 2017, 01:16:44 AM
We should flat out STOP trade discussion and threads about trades until AFTER the finals. I know I've discussed trades already but still.

Trade discussion thread should open the day after the GF. Trade confirmation thread should open a week after the GF.

Give the teams in finals some respect and some time to shine. Trade period takes up like 4 months. The least we could do is allow the teams in the GRAND FINAL to have some time to shine. Don't they deserve it?

Avoid the inevitable 1-month lull that we will have when trades die down. As we sit right now, trades have been happening for over a month. I'd say about 20 trades are already locked in. If this was a real comp we'd all be getting huge fines right now.

We simply don't need to have all this going on right now. Trading will be all of our primary focus for the next 4 months after finals finish. I see no harm in waiting a few weeks whilst finals and other things take centre stage.
There's a good idea! :)

Quote from: Nige on August 18, 2017, 02:04:43 PM
Now that's termination worthy!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 18, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Considered locking this thread until the conclusion of the final series out of the respect to the Lester-less and Vardy-less teams but it shall remain open.

However, we kindly ask you to refrain from your desire to confabulate if you can avoid it. If not, carry on.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on August 18, 2017, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 18, 2017, 02:34:53 PM
Also be sure to discuss why Dayne Zorko and Dayne Zorko's sister came up as related searches when I typed Ryan Lester in Google images.

Lester dates Zorko's sister. He's a sneaky one is Froggy.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 18, 2017, 04:23:43 PM
Last year Purps and I did a trade with no negotiations. He posted it, I confirmed. I gave up 40 and 68 while Purps was generous enough to hand over 44 and 45. I would have taken Darcy at 40 instead of 44, but the no negotiation trade allowed me to grab Cedric at 45 too. A very big thank you P77. Legend.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 18, 2017, 04:35:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 18, 2017, 04:23:43 PM
Last year Purps and I did a trade with no negotiations. He posted it, I confirmed. I gave up 40 and 68 while Purps was generous enough to hand over 44 and 45. I would have taken Darcy at 40 instead of 44, but the no negotiation trade allowed me to grab Cedric at 45 too. A very big thank you P77. Legend.

I wasn't going to use my second pick, so it was a win-win!

I'm quietly happy with Ridley at 40 ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 19, 2017, 11:54:34 PM
2014: 60 average
2015: 65 average
2016: 70 average
2017: 75 average

Anyone seeing any kind of trend here?

Still only 26 so yet to hit his peak. 200cms of amazing.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 22, 2017, 03:57:46 PM
I wanted Taranto so bad last year that I offered Blakely and pick 8 for a top 3 pick. Gosh I'm a horrible trader.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 23, 2017, 01:37:41 PM
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/teams/brisbane/brisbane-coach-chris-fagan-says-ryan-lester-is-the-lions-most-important-player/news-story/67f7342b42b57fb59183e238694514a9

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 23, 2017, 01:54:57 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/western-bulldogs/premiership-bulldog-jordan-roughead-turns-pet-detective-after-finding-lost-turtle-outside-his-home/news-story/262b6db1e3a5e8690d8eeab223ac0c40
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 23, 2017, 02:06:06 PM
You can't make this stuff up
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:18:46 PM
Quotes from the Lester Article

"The 24-year-old is neither an elite athlete nor kick of the footy"

“He is the ultimate role player because he is so versatile, with his ability to play midfield, forward and back, often within the one game,’’

Role Player who isn't a great athelete or kick. Sounds a recipe for some bad games and not a high ceiling.

“And he never complains, he puts the team first every single time with everything he does, and that’s why he’s our cult hero.’’

Cult Hero is another name you call a player who is average. How many Cult heros have left clubs or been on the fringe.

Majak daw is a cult hero too.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 23, 2017, 02:36:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
The Destroyers announcing a number of Signing in this are 6 stars

Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
Todd Goldstein

Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
Goldy has quickly became a cult hero at the club

Two cult heroes at Dublin!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 23, 2017, 02:36:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
The Destroyers announcing a number of Signing in this are 6 stars

Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
Todd Goldstein

Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
Goldy has quickly became a cult hero at the club

Two cult heroes at Dublin!

Daw is not a cult hero for Dublin, thats North Melbourne

We have Pride in Excellence in Dublin, we play by different rules.

Selwood is a former Cult Hero
Goldy is a Cult Hero but is starting to lose it.
Dmart is now our number 1 Cult hero.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 23, 2017, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:18:46 PM
Cult Hero is another name you call a player who is average.

Make up your mind.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 23, 2017, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 23, 2017, 02:36:21 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
The Destroyers announcing a number of Signing in this are 6 stars

Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
Todd Goldstein

Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
Goldy has quickly became a cult hero at the club

Two cult heroes at Dublin!

Daw is not a cult hero for Dublin, thats North Melbourne

We have Pride in Excellence in Dublin, we play by different rules.

Selwood is a former Cult Hero
Goldy is a Cult Hero but is starting to lose it.
Dmart is now our number 1 Cult hero.
So Dusty is your #1 average player
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 23, 2017, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:18:46 PM
Cult Hero is another name you call a player who is average.

Make up your mind.

As i said at Dublin we play by different Rules.

Thats why we are in our 3rd Final in 4 years.

As I Cairo Coach it totally makes sense why you dont get it. You probably think Ryan Lester is a superstar.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 23, 2017, 02:50:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 23, 2017, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:18:46 PM
Cult Hero is another name you call a player who is average.

Make up your mind.

As i said at Dublin we play by different Rules.

Thats why we are in our 3rd Final in 4 years.

As I Cairo Coach it totally makes sense why you dont get it. You probably think Ryan Lester is a superstar.
Probably explains why you wanted a modified version of the cap.

Can't just bend and contradict the definition you so kindly outlined for us all.

King of the backflip. 
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 23, 2017, 02:50:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 23, 2017, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:18:46 PM
Cult Hero is another name you call a player who is average.

Make up your mind.

As i said at Dublin we play by different Rules.

Thats why we are in our 3rd Final in 4 years.

As I Cairo Coach it totally makes sense why you dont get it. You probably think Ryan Lester is a superstar.
Probably explains why you wanted a modified version of the cap.

Can't just bend and contradict the definition you so kindly outlined for us all.

King of the backflip.

it does explain why I wanted a better cap.

When I see something i improve on it even if i dont agree with it, because its what Purp wanted and I have his back, I don't sit in a corner taking pot shots offering nothing to help.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 23, 2017, 02:54:59 PM
Average? Lester is above average, bordering on excellent in terms of scoring for a forward. Which is what this game is all about.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 23, 2017, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 23, 2017, 02:54:59 PM
Average? Lester is above average, bordering on excellent in terms of scoring for a forward. Which is what this game is all about.

I actually quite like Lester. He is in my Euro team and would be a handy F4 for any squad. Id keep him If i was you.

Im just pointing out the negative things from the article you posted in 10 different locations. When people drop the Cult hero its always some average player that the adoration exceeds their playing ability.

Not at Dublin though we love superstars.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 09:48:47 AM
Sam Petrevski-Seton gone after just one ultra impressive year?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 09:48:47 AM
Sam Petrevski-Seton gone after just one ultra impressive year?

70 average of 18 games, ultra impressive?

check out these guys

Bradd Dalziel - 92 average 7 games
Liam Anthony - 95 average 10 games
Jack Trengove - 75 average 18 games

then talking guns

Brad Crouch 87 average 14 games

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 24, 2017, 10:34:26 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 09:48:47 AM
Sam Petrevski-Seton gone after just one ultra impressive year?

70 average of 18 games, ultra impressive?

check out these guys

Bradd Dalziel - 92 average 7 games
Liam Anthony - 95 average 10 games
Jack Trengove - 75 average 18 games

then talking guns

Brad Crouch 87 average 14 games
Yep 4 massive letdowns there
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2017, 10:57:58 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 24, 2017, 10:34:26 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 09:48:47 AM
Sam Petrevski-Seton gone after just one ultra impressive year?

70 average of 18 games, ultra impressive?

check out these guys

Bradd Dalziel - 92 average 7 games
Liam Anthony - 95 average 10 games
Jack Trengove - 75 average 18 games

then talking guns

Brad Crouch 87 average 14 games
Yep 4 massive letdowns there

Can't wait till we see Brad with a full preseason.

Matt has had that pretty much every year

60 68 93 109

Brad

87 95 Major Injury 87 95


I reckon that major injury basically reset him to 1st year Brad. so 3rd year break out coming next year. Just like Matt had in his 3rd going up 25 points.

Does this mean Brad might go up to 120 next year?

Well the stats certainly indicate that.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:02:49 AM
Actually it looks as if he's due for another major injury.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 24, 2017, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2017, 10:57:58 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 24, 2017, 10:34:26 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 09:48:47 AM
Sam Petrevski-Seton gone after just one ultra impressive year?

70 average of 18 games, ultra impressive?

check out these guys

Bradd Dalziel - 92 average 7 games
Liam Anthony - 95 average 10 games
Jack Trengove - 75 average 18 games

then talking guns

Brad Crouch 87 average 14 games
Yep 4 massive letdowns there

Can't wait till we see Brad with a full preseason.

Matt has had that pretty much every year

60 68 93 109

Brad

87 95 Major Injury 87 95


I reckon that major injury basically reset him to 1st year Brad. so 3rd year break out coming next year. Just like Matt had in his 3rd going up 25 points.

Does this mean Brad might go up to 120 next year?

Well the stats certainly indicate that.
hahaha

no
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:05:12 AM
And Brad was on an AFL list, training and living like an AFL player for a full year before his debut season, so really his 2nd year was his 3rd.

Matt > Brad
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
So Brad = Gray now? Talk about overrated!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 24, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
So Brad = Gray now? Talk about overrated!
Ha saw it too.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2017, 11:13:50 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:05:12 AM
And Brad was on an AFL list, training and living like an AFL player for a full year before his debut season, so really his 2nd year was his 3rd.

Matt > Brad

even then his 2nd year beat Matt's 3rd year.

Especially considering Brad got a red vest in game 1 and injured in game 2. He actually put up 100 in the last 9 games where he was healthy and played the full game. 

Brad 102 since the byes so its history repeating itself. Except this time he isn't injured and about to have a full preseason. Lets see how much he can increase off a 102.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 24, 2017, 11:15:17 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2017, 11:13:50 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:05:12 AM
And Brad was on an AFL list, training and living like an AFL player for a full year before his debut season, so really his 2nd year was his 3rd.

Matt > Brad

even then his 2nd year beat Matt's 3rd year.

Especially considering Brad got a red vest in game 1 and injured in game 2. He actually put up 100 in the last 9 games where he was healthy and played the full game. 

Brad 102 since the byes so its history repeating itself. Except this time he isn't injured and about to have a full preseason. Lets see how much he can increase off a 102.
predicting a decrease
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:16:31 AM
Dude, Lester averaged 93 for a 10 game stretch after the bye this year, and he's a forward. Stop talking about your overrated inferior sibling, nobody is buying it. Lester is the one that the fans want to hear about.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2017, 11:16:45 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 24, 2017, 11:13:38 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
So Brad = Gray now? Talk about overrated!
Ha saw it too.

I actually wanted to Quote it but stupidly deleted it.

in summary

Gray 75 92 Major Injury 71 82 110 110 110

Brad 87 95 Major Injury 87 95 115 115 115

Brad is not = Gray

Brad > Gray

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2017, 11:17:43 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:16:31 AM
Dude, Lester averaged 93 for a 10 game stretch after the bye this year, and he's a forward. Stop talking about your overrated inferior sibling, nobody is buying it. Lester is the one that the fans want to hear about.

Brad Crouch is not for Sale

Ryan Lester is

Shows which guy the coach has faith in.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:20:26 AM
Can't help it if I've got too many awesome forwards who average more than Lester's 81. It's a shame to see him wasted at the Weta when he's starting quality.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2017, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2017, 11:17:43 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:16:31 AM
Dude, Lester averaged 93 for a 10 game stretch after the bye this year, and he's a forward. Stop talking about your overrated inferior sibling, nobody is buying it. Lester is the one that the fans want to hear about.

Brad Crouch is not for Sale

Ryan Lester is

Shows which guy the coach has faith in.
Stupid comment, every player has a price.

Lester > WTM
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:22:44 AM
Holz is just mad that I knocked back his offer of Crouch for Lester.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2017, 11:26:49 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:22:44 AM
Holz is just mad that I knocked back his offer of Crouch for Lester.

Lies, there is not one player on your list i would trade for Brad. Blakely would come close but you would still need to add quite abit more.

Im not looking to move him at all unless its a massive overpay and that would fail so he isnt going anywhere. Thats in response to Dave. There is no deal that would pass trades that I would take for Dustin Martin or Brad Crouch.









Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:30:23 AM
Matt > Ryan > Brad
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 24, 2017, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:30:23 AM
RD > Matt > Ryan > Brad
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 24, 2017, 11:49:13 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2017, 11:26:49 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:22:44 AM
Holz is just mad that I knocked back his offer of Crouch for Lester.

Lies, there is not one player on your list i would trade for Brad. Blakely would come close but you would still need to add quite abit more.

Im not looking to move him at all unless its a massive overpay and that would fail so he isnt going anywhere. Thats in response to Dave. There is no deal that would pass trades that I would take for Dustin Martin or Brad Crouch.

So you wouldn't accept danger for dusty?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 24, 2017, 11:52:43 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 24, 2017, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:30:23 AM
RD > Matt > Ryan > Brad
Nah Matt outscored RD Nigey
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 24, 2017, 11:54:31 AM
Quote from: GoLions on August 24, 2017, 11:52:43 AM
Quote from: Nige on August 24, 2017, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 11:30:23 AM
RD > Matt > Ryan > Brad
Nah Matt outscored RD Nigey
Yeh RD started slow but got better as the season went on
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 12:20:03 PM
B: (C)onnor, McVeigh, (trade in), Lever
M: Gibbs, Steele, Griffen, Higgins
R: Sandi/Darcy
F: McLean, Waite, Wells, SPS
I: WHE, Fiorini

Everyone outside of that is readily tradable. Even guys like Lever and SPS could move and be replaced with Wilson or ANB for example.

Depth + Starter for better/younger starter is an option but everyone tries that shower. My depth may be starting quality at some teams though, like 81 average Lester up forward.

B: Wilson, Andrews, McKenna, Silvagni, McKenzie
M: Masten, Wigg
R: Rough, English, Vardy
F: Lester, ANB, Stewart

Picks 26, 44, 62, 80. PSD 7, Rook 7
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 01:14:58 PM
Lever + Lester + Fiorini + Rough + English + 26 for one player could be a thing too, don't have to limit it to a 2 for 1.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 24, 2017, 01:34:46 PM
One Nathan Wilson please.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 01:46:50 PM
I wonder when Fagan will change his mind and come out and say Tom Bell is Brisbane's most important player instead. Any idea when we should expect this, Torp?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 24, 2017, 01:34:46 PM
One Nathan Wilson please.

~50th best defender, 77 average up from 67 (still improving), 24 years old.

77 + 8 = 85 ave mid (~75th best) of the same age with the same scope for improvement. -/+ 2 for years age difference

28 years = 93 mid
20 years = 79 mid

or thereabouts!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 03:13:09 PM
Remember last year when I tried to trade Wilson as a 75 ave player despite him averaging 67, and I was told it's wrong to price him so highly? I trade on expected output, not purely historical. 77 average, not 75 or 67.

Lester averages 81 and will average 80 next year so he's priced accordingly. He was priced at 70 last year, coming off 65. Guess y'all fooked up by not getting him while cheap! I always tend to underquote!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 24, 2017, 03:14:21 PM
You can have Rupert Wills for him.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 24, 2017, 03:14:51 PM
I heard the other day that Chris Fagan said... it might have Bastinac?... was the most important player on the list.

Pay accordingly.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 24, 2017, 03:16:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 24, 2017, 03:14:51 PM
I heard the other day that Chris Fagan said... it might have Bastinac?... was the most important player on the list.

Pay accordingly.
That's an odd way to spell Corey Lyons.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 03:19:45 PM
People kill to get a 90 ave mid to a 100 ave mid but couldn't care less about 70 up to 80. It's the same difference. And who couldn't use an extra 80 Ave forward?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
^ Rumours and lies. I report facts.

Gibbs > Rocky
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 03:36:49 PM
Harry Wigg for #50 unless bettered.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 24, 2017, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 03:36:49 PM
Harry Wigg for #50 unless bettered.
Harry Wigg for #49. Bidding on behalf of whoever has that pick.

He's a gun, it'll be worth it!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 24, 2017, 03:40:43 PM
How about on those estimated draft orders?

Could help some folks out.

We know how much people in Worlds love their picks!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 24, 2017, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 24, 2017, 03:40:43 PM
How about on those estimated draft orders?

Could help some folks out.

We know how much people in Worlds love their picks!

We had them in the original trade thread (thanks to meow) until some genius decided to delete it :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on August 24, 2017, 04:39:19 PM
I hate to think what Holz would to do to poor Brad Crouch if they met in real life
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2017, 04:56:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 24, 2017, 04:39:19 PM
I hate to think what Holz would to do to poor Brad Crouch if they met in real life

he isn't even my favorite player at the Crows.

Sloane is.



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2017, 05:01:41 PM
Meow if purp would allow it id be leaning towards giving my 1st rounder for Vardy if i could bring him in this week


Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 05:07:40 PM
You'll forget the value of rucks in a couple of days when you can actually acquire one. The only way people might possibly take any notice is if you lose due to OOP ruck. Doubt it though.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 24, 2017, 05:12:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 05:07:40 PM
You'll forget the value of rucks in a couple of days when you can actually acquire one. The only way people might possibly take any notice is if you lose due to OOP ruck. Doubt it though.

Vardy value is only high for this one week.

1. its the only week i might play an OOP
2. he wont be the number 1 ruck next year.

Now if Sandi retires and your trading Darcy ill pay up.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 24, 2017, 06:05:59 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 24, 2017, 03:40:43 PM
How about on those estimated draft orders?

Could help some folks out.

We know how much people in Worlds love their picks!

I'll make a proper thread in time, a "Trade Centre" if you will, probably on Monday to keep the focus on the Grand Final.

But for now:

1   Buenos Aires Armadillos
2   Tokyo Samurai
3   London Royals
4   Cape Town Cobras
5   Moscow Spetsnaz
6   Cairo Sands
7   Christchurch Saints
8   Mexico City Suns
9   Beijing Thunder
10   PNL Reindeers
11   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
12   Berlin Brewers
13   Toronto Wolves
14   New York Revolution
15   Pacific Islanders
16   New Delhi Tigers
17   Seoul/Dublin
18   Seoul/Dublin

PP 19   Buenos Aires Armadillos

20   Buenos Aires Armadillos
21   Tokyo Samurai
22   London Royals
23   Cape Town Cobras
24   Moscow Spetsnaz
25   Cairo Sands
26   Christchurch Saints
27   Mexico City Suns
28   Beijing Thunder
29   PNL Reindeers
30   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
31   Berlin Brewers
32   Toronto Wolves
33   New York Revolution
34   Pacific Islanders
35   New Delhi Tigers
36   Seoul/Dublin
37   Seoul/Dublin

38   Buenos Aires Armadillos
39   Tokyo Samurai
40   London Royals
41   Cape Town Cobras
42   Moscow Spetsnaz
43   Cairo Sands
44   Christchurch Saints
45   Mexico City Suns
46   Beijing Thunder
47   PNL Reindeers
48   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
49   Berlin Brewers
50   Toronto Wolves
51   New York Revolution
52   Pacific Islanders
53   New Delhi Tigers
54   Seoul/Dublin
55   Seoul/Dublin

56   Buenos Aires Armadillos
57   Tokyo Samurai
58   London Royals
59   Cape Town Cobras
60   Moscow Spetsnaz
61   Cairo Sands
62   Christchurch Saints
63   Mexico City Suns
64   Beijing Thunder
65   PNL Reindeers
66   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
67   Berlin Brewers
68   Toronto Wolves
69   New York Revolution
70   Pacific Islanders
71   New Delhi Tigers
72   Seoul/Dublin
73   Seoul/Dublin

74   Buenos Aires Armadillos
75   Tokyo Samurai
76   London Royals
77   Cape Town Cobras
78   Moscow Spetsnaz
79   Cairo Sands
80   Christchurch Saints
81   Mexico City Suns
82   Beijing Thunder
83   PNL Reindeers
84   Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
85   Berlin Brewers
86   Toronto Wolves
87   New York Revolution
88   Pacific Islanders
89   New Delhi Tigers
90   Seoul/Dublin
91   Seoul/Dublin
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 06:57:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 24, 2017, 05:12:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 05:07:40 PM
You'll forget the value of rucks in a couple of days when you can actually acquire one. The only way people might possibly take any notice is if you lose due to OOP ruck. Doubt it though.

Vardy value is only high for this one week.

1. its the only week i might play an OOP
2. he wont be the number 1 ruck next year.

Now if Sandi retires and your trading Darcy ill pay up.

1. Insurance policies are foremergencies.
2. That's what they said at the start of this year. You never know!

Sandi signed on for one more year while Darcy was gaining fitness in the WAFL. Big Sean might have pushed him out and 211 might be Priddis'd in this day and age of meaningless contacts.

I've said all along that I'll go with Rough as my ruck if I get what Darcy is worth. Which I can't since nobody values rucks as they should.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 06:58:32 PM
Purps, get some line breaks in there between rounds.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Boomz on August 24, 2017, 08:21:54 PM
Pick 2 is on the table btw. Looking for a gun mid but I'll consider other positions. 21 as well.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 09:09:25 PM
Let's get a 3 way going so I can get my hands on that pick 2.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 09:10:26 PM
Thanks Purple77. You always come through with the goods.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Boomz on August 24, 2017, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 24, 2017, 09:09:25 PM
Let's get a 3 way going so I can get my hands on that pick 2.

Just accept 2 for Lester and no need for a 3 way.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on August 24, 2017, 10:13:41 PM
Trading
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
VFL equal leading goal kicker, and only 18 years of age - Kayle Kirby debut's tomorrow

Watch him, then get your offers in  ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 25, 2017, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
VFL equal leading goal kicker, and only 18 years of age - Kayle Kirby debut's tomorrow

Watch him, then get your offers in  ;D

i asked about him last week.

:P

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 25, 2017, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
VFL equal leading goal kicker, and only 18 years of age - Kayle Kirby debut's tomorrow

Watch him, then get your offers in  ;D

i asked about him last week.

:P

You did? I don't recall  :-[

I mean look, he's no Paddy dow, but it's always a good sign when your 1st year rookies get a game :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on August 25, 2017, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 25, 2017, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
VFL equal leading goal kicker, and only 18 years of age - Kayle Kirby debut's tomorrow

Watch him, then get your offers in  ;D

i asked about him last week.

:P

You did? I don't recall  :-[

I mean look, he's no Paddy dow, but it's always a good sign when your 1st year rookies get a game :)

Even if it is in a nothing game in round 23, as a late inclusion :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 25, 2017, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 25, 2017, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
VFL equal leading goal kicker, and only 18 years of age - Kayle Kirby debut's tomorrow

Watch him, then get your offers in  ;D

i asked about him last week.

:P

You did? I don't recall  :-[

I mean look, he's no Paddy dow, but it's always a good sign when your 1st year rookies get a game :)

Even if it is in a nothing game in round 23, as a late inclusion :P

Better than never playing at all :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 25, 2017, 02:57:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 25, 2017, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 25, 2017, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 25, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
VFL equal leading goal kicker, and only 18 years of age - Kayle Kirby debut's tomorrow

Watch him, then get your offers in  ;D

i asked about him last week.

:P

You did? I don't recall  :-[

I mean look, he's no Paddy dow, but it's always a good sign when your 1st year rookies get a game :)

Even if it is in a nothing game in round 23, as a late inclusion :P

Better than never playing at all :P
Not for our 2018 fantasy sides
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 25, 2017, 06:40:11 PM
(http://www-static2.spulsecdn.net/pics/00/00/93/50/935035_1_O.jpg)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 25, 2017, 07:49:06 PM
Pick 2 is on the table. Get your offers in now.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 25, 2017, 08:02:56 PM
Daics with a 70+ this week might see a guy like James Stewart pushed down the order, thus making him more tradable.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: DazBurg on August 26, 2017, 10:18:42 AM
campbell back from injury terrible score but so was roughy
campbell 1 year younger and looking to take that #1 role
before injury went 120 against goldstein and 101 against vardy before injury :P

so in truth all you need is campbell (& rough as backup if you please)

haha
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2017, 10:22:06 AM
That's absolute bullshower and you know it Daz. Roughead is the man.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: DazBurg on August 26, 2017, 10:29:16 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 26, 2017, 10:22:06 AM
That's absolute bullshower and you know it Daz. Roughead is the man.

yeah rough is the  man when campbell is injured
campbell ready to hit prime turns 26 in November the day before roughy turns 27

so if you want a true #1 ruck contact PNL
if you'd like the set so yuo have backup contact Christchurch

haha
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
Ryder is the only ruck that NY need.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: DazBurg on August 26, 2017, 01:00:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 26, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
Ryder is the only ruck that NY need.
yeah be nice for them to get him wouldn't it :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2017, 02:18:28 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 26, 2017, 01:00:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 26, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
Ryder is the only ruck that NY need.
yeah be nice for them to get him wouldn't it :P

Yes, yes it would, Maybe ONE day it will happen.... :P

I was just looking over last years draft, and I'm surprised with how well we did considering our first pick wasn't until Pick 50!

Darcy Cameron, Mitch Hannan, Lewis Young, Brennan Cox, Kayle Kirby all picked in the 50-70 range

Looking forward to seeing what we can jag this year  :)

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2017, 06:09:40 PM
What time is the trade period opening?

Midnight tomorrow?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 26, 2017, 06:11:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2017, 06:09:40 PM
What time is the trade period opening?

Midnight tomorrow?
Cap vote?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 26, 2017, 06:26:21 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 26, 2017, 06:11:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2017, 06:09:40 PM
What time is the trade period opening?

Midnight tomorrow?
Cap vote?

I've mentioned it in a few PMs.

Monday 12:00.01 am AEDT, or later, when I receive all the cap votes.

Still to receive:

Berlin Brewers
Mexico City Suns
New York Revolution
Pacific Islanders
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2017, 06:27:39 PM
Cheers guys

I sent vote to AK 2 days ago so just waiting for him to reply
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 26, 2017, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 26, 2017, 06:26:21 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 26, 2017, 06:11:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2017, 06:09:40 PM
What time is the trade period opening?

Midnight tomorrow?
Cap vote?

I've mentioned it in a few PMs.

Monday 12:00.01 am AEDT, or later, when I receive all the cap votes.

Still to receive:

Berlin Brewers
Mexico City Suns
New York Revolution
Pacific Islanders
Smh
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2017, 07:46:07 PM
Pacific probably want you to throw in Fyfe in a deal for their vote.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on August 26, 2017, 08:08:54 PM
Lesters price just went down due to concussion.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 26, 2017, 08:12:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 26, 2017, 08:08:54 PM
Lesters price just went down due to concussion.

2 week average of 54

I'll offer Pick 50 for Lester
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 26, 2017, 11:52:01 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 26, 2017, 08:08:54 PM
Lesters price just went down due to concussion.

Bite your tongue or I'll get Chris Masten to do it for you.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 27, 2017, 01:09:15 PM
I was going to try to trade Masten for whatever I could get for him, then remembered him biting Suban that one time. I need to keep him, no way I could get rid of a legend like that. He's 10% on the way to Waite level.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on August 27, 2017, 06:23:02 PM
Def: Z Tuohy (Geel), S Biggs (WB), E Wood (WB), M Adams (WB), S Atley (NM), R Bonner (Port), H Perryman (GWS), J Wagner (Melb), B Rice (StK), J Joyce (GC), J Leslie (GC), M Hartley (Ess), S Skinner (Bris), T Duman (Freo), T Gorter (WC), T Mohr (GWS), M Spencer (GC)

Mid: T Boak (Port), E Curnow (Carl), I Smith (Haw), D Parish (Ess), T Dumont (NM), J Berry (Bris), J Atley (Port), C Hanley (Bris), J Long (Ess)

Ruck: T Nicholls (GC), D Currie (GC), K Brooksby (GC), S Draper (Ess)

Fwd: H Bennell (Freo), T Walker (Adel), J Elliott (Coll), C Hooker (Ess), S Edwards (Rich), J Simpkin (NM), O Florent (Syd), J Green (Ess), R Bewick (Bris), L Thomas (NM), J Neade (Port), C Moore (Rich), M Taylor (NM)

Trade period opens tomorrow so if anyone wants to get some trades done give me a message or get on Discord! Red guys are players im not really interested in moving, the others im open to moving. Doing a bit of a rebuild so interested in younger players that i like, also earlier draft picks. So if you're a team looking to take a step closer to the premiership next year hit me up!

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 27, 2017, 06:35:14 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 27, 2017, 06:23:02 PM
Trade period opens tomorrow

On that, I just need New York's vote (i.e. AK to get back to RD), then I'll give mine last.

I could announce one vote, but not the other yet  :-X feel like I may as well wait.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 27, 2017, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 27, 2017, 06:35:14 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 27, 2017, 06:23:02 PM
Trade period opens tomorrow

On that, I just need New York's vote (i.e. AK to get back to RD), then I'll give mine last.

I could announce one vote, but not the other yet  :-X feel like I may as well wait.
Nah do eet
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 27, 2017, 09:00:47 PM
89 to Vardy this week. Petrie a solid 83. Guns.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on August 27, 2017, 09:07:04 PM
Petrie retiring though.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 27, 2017, 10:42:35 PM
Haven't been able to get in touch with AK so I've made the call and sent our vote to Purps

I guess Trade Period can open on schedule now  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 27, 2017, 10:53:30 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 27, 2017, 09:07:04 PM
Petrie retiring though.

Sure, look for the negatives like everyone else does in the trade period and try to devalue every player not on your own list.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 08:34:39 AM
Petrie retiring is nothing but good news for Vardy. I'd argue that Nathan has gone ahead of the Slyce and he'll be the one partnering NN, then back in as first ruck when Nait gets injured again.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2017, 09:42:37 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 08:34:39 AM
Petrie retiring is nothing but good news for Vardy. I'd argue that Nathan has gone ahead of the Slyce and he'll be the one partnering NN, then back in as first ruck when Nait gets injured again.

As an Eagles man, ill confirm that

Vards has been excellent for us. Might not be an SC gun, but will play 2nd to NN. Lycett will have to absolutely kill preseason to jump him
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 28, 2017, 10:13:18 AM
Ok, I have the team salaries up in the new thread.

Currently working on getting individual player salaries up, but go nuts now guys.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2017, 10:27:47 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 28, 2017, 10:13:18 AM
Ok, I have the team salaries up in the new thread.

Currently working on getting individual player salaries up, but go nuts now guys.

So can we post now according to this, or do we wait until individual salaries are up before posting confirmed trades, according to the confirmation thread?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 10:28:58 AM
Go nuts
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 28, 2017, 10:35:16 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 10:28:58 AM
Go nuts

This.

And also individual salaries are up.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 10:48:31 AM
You truly are an asset Purps. Brilliant work.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 28, 2017, 11:11:16 AM
WXV 2017 Trade Centre (https://jumpshare.com/v/PMb289YvLU1pDNBxRgmp)

Spreadsheet for those interested! It'll permanently be in the OP in the WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread for future reference.

Haven't gotten around to recording last year's draftees ages yet
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 28, 2017, 11:50:58 AM
BTB is possibly available, but we'd need two decent players involved
110ave
115 since RD 5
121 since RD 10

Sidey isn't available

Ross is possibly

Our many defenders are except for Howe and Lloyd

J Lloyd (Syd), J Howe (Coll), B Houli (Rich), D Rich (Bris), H Hartlett (Port), N Vlastuin (Rich), A Mullett (NM), N Robertson (Bris), P Davis (GWS), H Morrison (Haw), A Oxley (Coll), N Krakouer (Port), S White (Carl), M Hinge (Bris), D Willsmore (Haw), S Murray (Syd))

Stef no - unless involving another good ruck

Jack Martin isn't available

Gray isn't

Actually most fwds might be hard to let go given its our weakest line




lol jk, everyone is available

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 12:31:02 PM
I reckon we strip Holz of the premiership for commenting in the trade confirmation thread.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 28, 2017, 12:36:31 PM
Everyone bar Rance Gunston Dmart Crouch can move but i might do something totally crazy and just take my draft picks and pull no deals.


Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 28, 2017, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 12:31:02 PM
I reckon we strip Holz of the premiership for commenting in the trade confirmation thread.
Has and always will be frowned upon. It's an unwritten rule.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 12:43:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 28, 2017, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 12:31:02 PM
I reckon we strip Holz of the premiership for commenting in the trade confirmation thread.
Has and always will be frowned upon. It's an unwritten rule.

Unwritten? Take another look!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 28, 2017, 12:46:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 12:43:35 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 28, 2017, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 12:31:02 PM
I reckon we strip Holz of the premiership for commenting in the trade confirmation thread.
Has and always will be frowned upon. It's an unwritten rule.

Unwritten? Take another look!
Ha, so it is.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2017, 01:46:39 PM
Ada's not mucking around!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 02:46:33 PM
JB, is your counter offer for Gibbs still valid?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 28, 2017, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 02:46:33 PM
JB, is your counter offer for Gibbs still valid?

Remind me what it was? :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 03:04:24 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 28, 2017, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 02:46:33 PM
JB, is your counter offer for Gibbs still valid?

Remind me what it was? :P

I wanted Swallow and Cetaphil, you came back at me with Swallow and 17.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 28, 2017, 03:22:49 PM
Classic meow  ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on August 28, 2017, 05:25:02 PM
Looking for 1st rounders, and have a number of defenders and forwards for sale

DEF: Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Kade Simpson, Matthew Broadbent
FWD: Brett Deledio, Eddie Betts,
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on August 28, 2017, 06:20:36 PM
Taylor Walker is pretty much gone if anybody wants to make an offer
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on August 28, 2017, 07:31:48 PM
Also Zach Tuohy and Isaac smith would be out the door as well

Zach a 90 average defender, 27 years old

Isaac smith, went 109 in his last 5 games and kicked more goals than last year so who knows about forward status
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 08:01:42 PM
Timothy English with or without Jordan Roughead, possibly even with Vardy.

Rio
PNL
London

Anyone else interested or should I try to hone in on a deal with one of these 3 wonderful clubs?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jay on August 28, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
I'll be more active in trade talks this season. Probably no surprise but we'd ideally look to gain a starting forward. Our ressies were #1 in points scored, so we have plenty of depth if that's what you're after, or can offer up some higher quality if the price is right. Happy to talk about whoever but the guys in red below it would be very hard to move on whilst making our team better. Would like to go to the draft after not doing so last year but we'll see what happens :)




Def: R Laird (Adel), M Hurley (Ess), M Suckling (WB), L Spurr (Freo), L Duggan (WC), B Williams (WB), S Day (GC), A Tomlinson (GWS), K Cheney (Adel), A Allir (Syd), J Kolodjashnij (Geel), H Himmelberg (GWS), K Jaksch (Carl)

Mid: T Mitchell (Haw), M Bontempelli (WB), A Gaff (WC), M Barlow (GC), J Lyons (GC), A Swallow (NM), C Guthrie (Geel), S Gibson (NM), D Mountford (NM), M Rischitelli (GC), C Hampton (Adel), N Suban (Freo), W Fordham (NM)

Ruck: J Witts (GC), M Leuenberger (Ess), W Frampton (Port), P Ladhams (Port)

Fwd: D Smith (GWS), S Motlop (Geel), A Fasolo (Coll), R Stanley (Geel), M McGovern (Adel), M Taberner (Freo), A Otten (Adel), B Howlett (Ess), C Ah Chee (GC), M de Boer (GWS), J Murdoch (Geel), P Ahern (NM), J Lamb (Carl), H Dear (Adel)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 10:41:33 PM
Almost 22 year old, 75 average forward Alex Neal-Bullen available. Still has room to improve.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 28, 2017, 10:51:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 28, 2017, 10:41:33 PM
Almost 22 year old, 75 average forwards Alex Neal-Bullen and Darcy Lang available. Still have room to improve.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 29, 2017, 12:59:19 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/u7IqRIfOXQyc/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on August 29, 2017, 12:59:55 PM
Scott Selwood 2017:

103, 112, 101, 44, 72, missed 4 weeks, 46, 95, 111, 96, 93, 128.

Injury affected game, did not return after 3QT.
Returning from injury, wasn't 100% fit (I know because I was watching).

2017 average: 91
Excluding injury affected game: 95.7
Excluding injury affected game, and games returning from injury: 104.8




There is no doubting that Scooter can score (it's pretty much impossible to average less than 90 when you lay 12 tackles a game), but his body has always let him down. Because of his injury history, I'm going to value him at less than his injury affected 2017 average, at 90ppg. :P

Looking to upgrade him to a better mid of a similar age. Willing to package him up with 1-2 of the following to do so.

Sam Kerridge: 86.5 in the last 9 weeks when he started to get consistent games, 24yo.
Liam Picken: 77.4 without the concussion game and will get fwd status. Contracted until the end of 2019.
Marco Paparone: Averaged 77 one year. Might be traded where he will get more opportunity. Turns 23 in about a week.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 29, 2017, 01:50:53 PM
Well! I'm seen a more active first 24 hours of the trade period.

That being said, hurry up and ask for my players, coz I dunno what I want from you lot.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 01:54:55 PM
Don't worry Purple, the trade you've all been waiting for is imminent!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 03:46:29 PM
Okay I've done some low level trades, one with a starting quality player. Now it's time to knock your socks off with the big one that I've been quietly putting together with a premiership coach.

Well, almost time. Will drop at 8pm and it's going to be known as the most significant moment in Christchurch's history.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Adamant on August 29, 2017, 12:59:55 PM
Scott Selwood 2017:

103, 112, 101, 44, 72, missed 4 weeks, 46, 95, 111, 96, 93, 128.

Injury affected game, did not return after 3QT.
Returning from injury, wasn't 100% fit (I know because I was watching).

2017 average: 91
Excluding injury affected game: 95.7
Excluding injury affected game, and games returning from injury: 104.8




There is no doubting that Scooter can score (it's pretty much impossible to average less than 90 when you lay 12 tackles a game), but his body has always let him down. Because of his injury history, I'm going to value him at less than his injury affected 2017 average, at 90ppg. :P

Looking to upgrade him to a better mid of a similar age. Willing to package him up with 1-2 of the following to do so.

Sam Kerridge: 86.5 in the last 9 weeks when he started to get consistent games, 24yo.
Liam Picken: 77.4 without the concussion game and will get fwd status. Contracted until the end of 2019.
Marco Paparone: Averaged 77 one year. Might be traded where he will get more opportunity. Turns 23 in about a week.

Of course you should value him including his injury affected games because it's not like it was a Gibbs shoulder once off type thing. He's going to get injured again.

2014   12   80.3
2015   12   57.5
2016   3   74.0
2017   11   90.7

I'd even say pricing him at 90 is optimistic. Your buy low sell high strategy is evident but let's be realistic here, Scooter is worth 85 at best with that recent history.

Send him my way.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 03:57:44 PM
Harris Andrews available. Averaged 102 if you take out all the games that he scored poorly in.
At least he plays all of them, not like these half season jokes who are priced as if they play the whole season.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 29, 2017, 04:24:43 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 03:57:44 PM
Harris Andrews available. Averaged 102 if you take out all the games that he scored poorly in.
At least he plays all of them, not like these half season jokes who are priced as if they play the whole season.

A+

Genuinely LOL'd!  ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 04:38:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 03:46:29 PM
Okay I've done some low level trades, one with a starting quality player. Now it's time to knock your socks off with the big one that I've been quietly putting together with a premiership coach.

Well, almost time. Will drop at 8pm and it's going to be known as the most significant moment in Christchurch's history.
Are you the Trade Whisperer??

50 retweets and all will be revealed
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 05:18:17 PM
Whisperer? I'm the trade confabulation king/annoying repetitive twat.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 05:19:43 PM
Vardy tho
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 07:01:37 PM
NDT, do you want Gibbs? He's good.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on August 29, 2017, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 07:01:37 PM
NDT, do you want Gibbs? He's good.

NDT stands for New Delhi Tigers.

However when it comes to Gibbs, it stands for "Now dammit, thanks"
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 29, 2017, 07:33:39 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 29, 2017, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 07:01:37 PM
NDT, do you want Gibbs? He's good.

NDT stands for New Delhi Tigers.

However when it comes to Gibbs, it stands for "Now dammit, thanks"

Pains me to do it Ele, you're one of the greats, but

C-
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 29, 2017, 07:46:35 PM
Have had a lot of talks with a lot of coaches but now it's time to make some trades

A lot of interest has been received in Tyson, Stringer, Scully, Houston, Young, Wallis and even the likes of Conca who will be def

We're not looking for depth at this stage. If you've got starters to trade then hit me up

Happy to package 2 good young players for 1 high averaging player. Tyson + Stringer etc etc

Houston can move, but it's unlikely unless it's part of a bigger deal that gets us a gun. Jelwood, Heeney and JJK unlikely to move either, but you can always ask if you're prepared to be reasonable

We don't need defenders. Gun mid, starting ruck or forward are all of interest
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 08:48:35 PM
ARE YOU READY?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 29, 2017, 08:55:04 PM
T-Minus - 2 Minutes
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on August 29, 2017, 09:34:29 PM
What has just happened :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 29, 2017, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 29, 2017, 09:34:29 PM
What has just happened :P
Jed Anderson for N80 + 84?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Meow's cooler than being cool
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 29, 2017, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Meow's cooler than being cool
Could say he's the coolest cat.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 29, 2017, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Meow's cooler than being cool
Could say he's the coolest cat Ice Cold.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 29, 2017, 11:13:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 29, 2017, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Meow's cooler than being cool
Could say he's the coolest cat Ice Stone Cold Steve Austin .
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 11:26:44 PM
WHAT?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 29, 2017, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 29, 2017, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Meow's cooler than being cool
Could say he's the coolest cat Ice Cold.
I'm gonna be honest, I knew the reference and I have no idea why I didn't complete it. :(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 11:51:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 29, 2017, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 29, 2017, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Meow's cooler than being cool
Could say he's the coolest cat Ice Cold.
I'm gonna be honest, I knew the reference and I have no idea why I didn't complete it. :(
I was extremely disappointed Nige
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 29, 2017, 11:55:11 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 11:51:30 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 29, 2017, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 29, 2017, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 29, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Meow's cooler than being cool
Could say he's the coolest cat Ice Cold.
I'm gonna be honest, I knew the reference and I have no idea why I didn't complete it. :(
I was extremely disappointed Nige
I'm extremely disappointed in myself. I don't know what came over me. Very unlike me to miss such an opportunity.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Boomz on August 30, 2017, 12:11:55 AM
On the table: S Morris (Rich), R Abbott (Geel), T Tweedie (WB), F McInnes (WC), L Strnadica (Freo), S Lloyd (Rich), H Cunningham (Syd), J Blair (Coll), A Young (Port), J Merrett (Ess), D Thomas (Carl), T Smith (Melb), M Willis (GC), P Kerr (Carl), D Clarke (Ess), C Menadue (Rich), L Dawson (Bris), A Kennedy (GWS), A Morgan (Ess), A Corr (GWS), T Ruggles (Geel), P Ambrose (Ess)

These guys are available. Decent picks and young def/fwd's are the priority.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 30, 2017, 12:24:23 AM
Strnadica for ruck loophole worth a 1st rounder surely
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 30, 2017, 12:26:26 AM
That's quite a list of stars!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Boomz on August 30, 2017, 12:56:47 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 30, 2017, 12:26:26 AM
That's quite a list of stars!

Aye you never know  :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on August 30, 2017, 03:54:03 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 29, 2017, 07:33:39 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 29, 2017, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 07:01:37 PM
NDT, do you want Gibbs? He's good.

NDT stands for New Delhi Tigers.

However when it comes to Gibbs, it stands for "Now dammit, thanks"

Pains me to do it Ele, you're one of the greats, but

C-

Hahaha yeah wow not my best work :P Still, a C is a pass!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 09:06:06 AM
Christchurch give: Lachie Whitfield, Zak Jones + Pick 36
Christchurch receive: Nathan Hrovat, Sam Gilbert + Pick 22

Compo
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 30, 2017, 11:13:23 AM
I've been having more and more thoughts about trading Jack Steven.

But if I were to do it, I'd be a fool not to do my due diligence and declare the possibility first.

So yeah, this is that. I have an offer that I'm currently considering.

Will listen to players of all positions, but reckon I'd like either an older mid + something to make it worthwhile, or a younger mid, or a better mid FOR Steven + something worthwhile.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on August 30, 2017, 11:21:20 AM
Thanks for making this easy meow :P

Just to make sure I didn't stuff up (like you did with Jack Steele in a GWS Guernsey):

Rio de Janeiro trade: Sam Jacobs, Gary Ablett, Patrick Cripps, Elliot Yeo, Pick 11 + Pick 30
Christchurch trade: Sean Darcy, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Bryce Gibbs, Jake Lever + Jack Steele

Yeah?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on August 30, 2017, 12:12:50 PM
For those who asked about Lids earlier, he's about to be sold so please send though your offers again
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 30, 2017, 11:21:20 AM
Thanks for making this easy meow :P

Just to make sure I didn't stuff up (like you did with Jack Steele in a GWS Guernsey):

Rio de Janeiro trade: Sam Jacobs, Gary Ablett, Patrick Cripps, Elliot Yeo, Pick 11 + Pick 30
Christchurch trade: Sean Darcy, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Bryce Gibbs, Jake Lever + Jack Steele

Yeah?

If you actually quote that post, you will see:

OFFICIAL TRADE IS Rio trade: pick 84 Christchurch trade: Jed Anderson and pick 80

It was all just smoke and mirrors!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 30, 2017, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 30, 2017, 11:21:20 AM
Thanks for making this easy meow :P

Just to make sure I didn't stuff up (like you did with Jack Steele in a GWS Guernsey):

Rio de Janeiro trade: Sam Jacobs, Gary Ablett, Patrick Cripps, Elliot Yeo, Pick 11 + Pick 30
Christchurch trade: Sean Darcy, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Bryce Gibbs, Jake Lever + Jack Steele

Yeah?

If you actually quote that post, you will see:

OFFICIAL TRADE IS Rio trade: pick 84 Christchurch trade: Jed Anderson and pick 80

It was all just smoke and mirrors!
How does that trade make sense though...haha
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on August 30, 2017, 12:21:50 PM
Christchurch clearly trading down in the draft to free up a list spot :P #clogger
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 30, 2017, 12:33:57 PM
Quote from: Toga on August 30, 2017, 12:21:50 PM
Christchurch clearly trading down in the draft to free up a list spot :P #clogger

Severely doubt Church even take the pick. Looks like a delisting but only club had 1 access.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 12:56:40 PM
Haha sorry Purps, I'll quit screwing around since it makes your job more difficult.

Anderson and 80 for 84 is the real and only trade in that post.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 02:14:37 PM
Hanners... Parker... JPK?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 30, 2017, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 02:14:37 PM
Hanners... Parker... JPK?
What's dis
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 30, 2017, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 02:14:37 PM
Hanners... Parker... JPK?
What's dis

Confabulation. You're trading the next Syd gun mid.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 30, 2017, 05:19:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 30, 2017, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 02:14:37 PM
Hanners... Parker... JPK?
What's dis

Confabulation. You're trading the next Syd gun mid.

hang on when was Heeney traded?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 05:21:04 PM
That guy who plays in the forward line?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 30, 2017, 05:23:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 05:21:04 PM
That guy who plays in the forward line?

Dustin Martin and Nathan Fyfe any good?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 30, 2017, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 30, 2017, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 02:14:37 PM
Hanners... Parker... JPK?
What's dis

Confabulation. You're trading the next Syd gun mid.
Okie dokes. Assuming Duncan deal goes through, I now have another good C option. Best offer for JPK gets him. I like mids and defenders, maybe forwards. You have 24 hours.

If you offer Zorko, you win.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 05:25:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on August 29, 2017, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 29, 2017, 07:01:37 PM
NDT, do you want Gibbs? He's good.

NDT stands for New Delhi Tigers.

However when it comes to Gibbs, it stands for "Now dammit, thanks"

I like Jack Martin but I realise you don't have a plethora of forwards so maybe not going to happen.

I could add Jake Lever to Gibbs for a gun mid though, then you could maybe trade Lever for a good forward. Might want a pick back too however.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 05:28:15 PM
Dave I'll offer you Zorko for JPK and a pick. The Griff trade was overturned and the magician is on my list again.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:00:26 PM
Can someone trade me some players with a bit of salary so I don't get punished for my players retiring? Not only do I lose my 2nd and 4th best players in Mitchell and Joey, I might lose a draft pick too. Great rule.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2017, 07:01:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:00:26 PM
Can someone trade me some players with a bit of salary so I don't get punished for my players retiring? Not only do I lose my 2nd and 4th best players in Mitchell and Joey, I might lose a draft pick too. Great rule.
Koby Stevens? Nick Smith? Mark Hutchings? Maybe all 3!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
I meant useless list clogging spuds like Dale Morris who won't cost me anything.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
I meant useless list clogging spuds like Dale Morris who won't cost me anything.
You can have him if ya like.  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:11:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 30, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
I meant useless list clogging spuds like Dale Morris who won't cost me anything.
You can have him if ya like.  8)

For Harry Wigg? Former WXV pick 25!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2017, 07:14:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:11:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 30, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
I meant useless list clogging spuds like Dale Morris who won't cost me anything.
You can have him if ya like.  8)

For Harry Wigg? Former WXV pick 25!
Sounds good, lock it in Eddie.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 30, 2017, 07:14:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:11:29 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 30, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
I meant useless list clogging spuds like Dale Morris who won't cost me anything.
You can have him if ya like.  8)

For Harry Wigg? Former WXV pick 25!
Sounds good, lock it in Eddie.

Looks like somebody thinks SANFL superstar Wigg may be the difference between runner up and premier. You've just been outbid soz m8.

248 cap is the price to beat. I'll wait until about midnight, get your offers in now!

1 player only please.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 30, 2017, 07:36:43 PM
First I get outbid on Lester, now on Wigg.

People are mean.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 07:39:19 PM
Horrible cows who won't even tell me if I can have Swallow or not. Answer me JB!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 08:02:57 PM
Would take a pick or pick upgrade for Wigg too, even though it won't help my minumum cap.

26, 32, 41, 43, 44
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 30, 2017, 08:05:12 PM
We'll let you take superstar Simon white meow

Cloke 15.0 another star we could part with

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2017, 08:06:18 PM
Lol I forgot about Simon White Haha
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 30, 2017, 08:32:49 PM
New leader!

299 cap will be difficult to beat.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Boomz on August 30, 2017, 08:41:17 PM
Still open to offers for pick 2. Ideally needs to involve a 100+ mid or around that mark. Will be gone soon otherwise.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2017, 11:27:12 PM
Holz, you came to me for help with getting a trade done. I didn't come to you

If you're going to waste my time, the least you can do is be courteous and tell me you're going with something else before just posting it without even letting me know/give me a chance to counter



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 30, 2017, 11:38:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2017, 11:27:12 PM
Holz, you came to me for help with getting a trade done. I didn't come to you

If you're going to waste my time, the least you can do is be courteous and tell me you're going with something else before just posting it without even letting me know/give me a chance to counter

I did i came to you saying you needed to beat 31 or id go with the other trade if purp agreed.

You didnt beat the offer and purp agreed.

I wasnt wasting your time i would have delt wirh you if purps deal fell through or if you beat his deal none happend.

Dublin and NY have done many good deals.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 30, 2017, 11:44:29 PM
I'm not going to drag this out and derail the thread

You weren't that clear to me at all, and the chat history proves that

Doesn't matter, we have a good track record so we move on

Just make sure you let everyone know clearly what your intentions are and get their acknowledgement before going ahead elsewhere. That's all I ask :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 12:03:08 AM
Rance, Gunston, May, Birchall
Dusty, Sloane, Crouch, Crouch
Goldy
TMac, JROO, Westy, Hawkins
Lids, Hill

Weits, Greenwood, Omac

We're all playing for 2nd next year lads!  :'(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2017, 12:18:25 AM
Seoul full of young up and commers. Just added toughy and smith.

Ndt get rich in defence, gray up front and just turned 1 premo mid into 2.

This is game on.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 09:37:08 AM
90 average midfielder Shaun Higgins available for the best pick offered or Ben Ainsworth (I'll add pick 26).
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 09:48:23 AM
Gibbs returning to his original home for Cetaphil and 17.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 10:23:30 AM
Now the offers for Gibbs roll in right when I'm about to trade him...

I would have said he's available at least 5 times in the old thread but people ignore it until the least convenient time.

Scrap what I said in the PM JB, there's new suitors for Bryce sorry lad.

Best offer wins. I'm impulsive so you might not want to wait around too long.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 31, 2017, 10:46:42 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 10:23:30 AM
Now the offers for Gibbs roll in right when I'm about to trade him...

I would have said he's available at least 5 times in the old thread but people ignore it until the least convenient time.

Scrap what I said in the PM JB, there's new suitors for Bryce sorry lad.

Best offer wins. I'm impulsive so you might not want to wait around too long.

Well if you change your mind
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
Need Mids

Have Defenders

Rich - 91ave
Mullett - 80ave

The two main ones on the table, but also Vlastuin, superstar Simon White, actor Phil Davis, Kraks, Oxley, NRobbo, etc
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2017, 11:06:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
Need Mids

Have Defenders

Rich - 91ave
Mullett - 80ave

The two main ones on the table, but also Vlastuin, superstar Simon White, actor Phil Davis, Kraks, Oxley, NRobbo, etc

I just gave you two for one :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2017, 11:06:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
Need Mids

Have Defenders

Rich - 91ave
Mullett - 80ave

The two main ones on the table, but also Vlastuin, superstar Simon White, actor Phil Davis, Kraks, Oxley, NRobbo, etc

I just gave you two for one :P
Nah you gave them a fwd and a mid
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 11:28:29 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 09:37:08 AM
90 average midfielder Shaun Higgins available for the best pick offered or Ben Ainsworth (I'll add pick 26).
Oh hai
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 11:30:56 AM
Quote from: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2017, 11:06:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
Need Mids

Have Defenders

Rich - 91ave
Mullett - 80ave

The two main ones on the table, but also Vlastuin, superstar Simon White, actor Phil Davis, Kraks, Oxley, NRobbo, etc

I just gave you two for one :P
Nah you gave them a fwd and a mid
More chance of Dahl keeping it than Menegola getting it really. Especially after the Jelwood injury and spending the last month full time inside.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2017, 11:36:31 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 11:30:56 AM
Quote from: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2017, 11:06:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
Need Mids

Have Defenders

Rich - 91ave
Mullett - 80ave

The two main ones on the table, but also Vlastuin, superstar Simon White, actor Phil Davis, Kraks, Oxley, NRobbo, etc

I just gave you two for one :P
Nah you gave them a fwd and a mid
More chance of Dahl keeping it than Menegola getting it really. Especially after the Jelwood injury and spending the last month full time inside.

Dahl all but a certainty for fwd status.

if menegola is a fwd ill be kicking myself.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2017, 11:36:31 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 11:30:56 AM
Quote from: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2017, 11:06:14 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
Need Mids

Have Defenders

Rich - 91ave
Mullett - 80ave

The two main ones on the table, but also Vlastuin, superstar Simon White, actor Phil Davis, Kraks, Oxley, NRobbo, etc

I just gave you two for one :P
Nah you gave them a fwd and a mid
More chance of Dahl keeping it than Menegola getting it really. Especially after the Jelwood injury and spending the last month full time inside.

Dahl all but a certainty for fwd status.

if menegola is a fwd ill be kicking myself.
Nah won't happen for Menegola. Was midfield for the start of the year, played more fwd through the middle of the year and then when Jelwood got injured played inside again for the last month.

That's when his numbers jumped too. 95ave up to 100ave. All in the space of a month when Jelwood got injured
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 31, 2017, 11:58:48 AM
BTB potentially ending up at Dublin.

I'll take things I didn't see coming for 500 thanks, Alex.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 31, 2017, 12:00:03 PM
If people think Menegola will be a forward they should reject the deal.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 12:00:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2017, 11:58:48 AM
BTB potentially ending up at Dublin.

I'll take things I didn't see coming for 500 thanks, Alex.
Brad's better anyway
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2017, 12:00:34 PM
Quote from: Nige on August 31, 2017, 11:58:48 AM
BTB potentially ending up at Dublin.

I'll take things I didn't see coming for 500 thanks, Alex.

I still think Brad is better then Matt.

But we will see, im happy with both being guns.


check out this starting midfield.


Rory Sloane, Brad Crouch, Matt Crouch, Hugh Greenwood.

Go crows go.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2017, 12:04:11 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Collingwood/Articles/General%202013/0726_CROUCH_620.jpg)
(http://www.theweeklyadvertiser.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/McDonalds.jpg)

<3
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 31, 2017, 12:00:03 PM
If people think Menegola will be a forward they should reject the deal.

Should have done some research before agreeing :P

Anymore brother combo's you're chasing Holz?  ;D

(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Sam+Reid+Ben+Reid+Collingwood+v+Sydney+8vXIvHEh2kkl.jpg)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2017, 12:15:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 31, 2017, 12:00:03 PM
If people think Menegola will be a forward they should reject the deal.

Should have done some research before agreeing :P

Anymore brother combo's you're chasing Holz?  ;D


I did plenty of research.

I wouldn't mind the Selwood or Curnow Bros

Probably not too hard to get the Hill Bros.

I could have got the Jones bros but Nate gone now :(

I had the Menzel Bros till i traded Dan away.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 12:16:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2017, 12:15:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 31, 2017, 12:00:03 PM
If people think Menegola will be a forward they should reject the deal.

Should have done some research before agreeing :P

Anymore brother combo's you're chasing Holz?  ;D


I did plenty of research.

I wouldn't mind the Selwood or Curnow Bros

Probably not too hard to get the Hill Bros.

I could have got the Jones bros but Nate gone now :(

I had the Menzel Bros till i traded Dan away.
You need the BTB bros
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 31, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
Need Mids

Have Defenders

Rich - 91ave
Mullett - 80ave

The two main ones on the table, but also Vlastuin, superstar Simon White, actor Phil Davis, Kraks, Oxley, NRobbo, etc

Also could move Marc Murphy for someone younger who scores a little less
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 31, 2017, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on August 31, 2017, 12:00:03 PM
If people think Menegola will be a forward they should reject the deal.

Should have done some research before agreeing :P

Anymore brother combo's you're chasing Holz?  ;D

(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Sam+Reid+Ben+Reid+Collingwood+v+Sydney+8vXIvHEh2kkl.jpg)
I've watched almost every Cats game this season, and I'd say there's a minimal chance of Menegola getting DPP status.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 31, 2017, 02:26:42 PM
Dillos give: Walker wood

Toga's team give: N9 Scrimshaw wellingham

I like Scrim, has shown some signed and is a light frame so wasnt really meant to play this year anyway, N9 should get something good as well. Wellingham for cap.

Probably the sloppiest half assed confirmed trade I've seen haha :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 03:50:05 PM
Haha, I thought the same thing RD. Had to check that it wasn't Holz.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on August 31, 2017, 03:53:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: iZander on August 31, 2017, 02:26:42 PM
Dillos give: Walker wood

Toga's team give: N9 Scrimshaw wellingham

I like Scrim, has shown some signed and is a light frame so wasnt really meant to play this year anyway, N9 should get something good as well. Wellingham for cap.

Probably the sloppiest half assed confirmed trade I've seen haha :P
hahaha fair
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2017, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 03:50:05 PM
Haha, I thought the same thing RD. Had to check that it wasn't Holz.

I dont even give a reason for my deals.

The reason is either it improves my team or it helps with my cap problem.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2017, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 03:50:05 PM
Haha, I thought the same thing RD. Had to check that it wasn't Holz.

I dont even give a reason for my deals.

The reason is either it improves my team or it helps with my cap problem.

Thanks for confirming that it's all about you, and you don't consider the other team haha :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2017, 04:19:43 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2017, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 03:50:05 PM
Haha, I thought the same thing RD. Had to check that it wasn't Holz.

I dont even give a reason for my deals.

The reason is either it improves my team or it helps with my cap problem.

Thanks for confirming that it's all about you, and you don't consider the other team haha :P

Of course it is, if your doing a trade to improve the other teams squad then thats team fixing probably warrants a strike. 1 of those trades in my books has occurred.

A good trade is when both teams walk out feeling they won, however:

If i have an option of doing:

1. a good deal and the other team walking away with a good deal

versus

2. doing a great deal and the other team walking away with an ok deal

then ill take the latter every day as everyone should.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on August 31, 2017, 04:21:32 PM
I hope people get this reference.

I like Pareto Optimal Outcomes.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 31, 2017, 04:55:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 31, 2017, 04:21:32 PM
I hope people get this reference.

I like Pareto Optimal Outcomes.
Got it.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 06:04:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 11:28:29 AM
Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 09:37:08 AM
90 average midfielder Shaun Higgins available for the best pick offered or Ben Ainsworth (I'll add pick 26).
Oh hai

Shaun Higgins + 26 for Ben Ainsworth then?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 06:22:51 PM
Current retirees, just to help each team with list management

ADELAIDE
Scott Thompson (retired)

BRISBANE

CARLTON
Denis Armfield (retired)
Kristian Jaksch (delisted)

COLLINGWOOD
Jesse White (retired)

ESSENDON
Jobe Watson (retired)
James Kelly (retired)
Yestin Eades (retired)
Brent Stanton (retired)

FREMANTLE
Shane Yarran (retired)
Zac Dawson (retired)
Garrick Ibbotson (retired)

GEELONG
Tom Lonergan (retired)
Andrew Mackie (retired)

GOLD COAST

GWS GIANTS
Steve Johnson (retired)
Tom Downie (retired)

HAWTHORN

Luke Hodge (retired)
Josh Gibson (retired)
Jack Fitzpatrick (retired)
Luke Surman (retired)

MELBOURNE
Heritier Lumumba (retired)

NORTH MELBOURNE
Lachie Hansen (delisted)
Will Fordham (delisted)
Matt Taylor (delisted)

PORT ADELAIDE

RICHMOND
Ivan Maric (retired)
Chris Yarran (retired)

ST KILDA
Nick Riewoldt (retired)
Sean Dempster (retired)
Leigh Montagna (retired)
Nick Couglan (delisted)
Joe Baker-Thomas (delisted)

SYDNEY

WEST COAST
Sam Mitchell (retired)
Matthew Priddis (retired)
Paddy Brophy (retired)
Sam Butler (retired)
Drew Petrie (retired)

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Matthew Boyd (retired)
Bob Murphy (retired)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 06:26:23 PM
Yet they're all in next year's cap...
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 06:26:23 PM
Yet they're all in next year's cap...

Is that just through the trade period though? Because that would help teams from going under

We lodge our lists after trade period, drafts etc and obviously we don't list the guys we're delisting which would be players from the above

I'm obviously missing something?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 06:49:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on August 31, 2017, 06:26:23 PM
Yet they're all in next year's cap...

Is that just through the trade period though? Because that would help teams from going under

We lodge our lists after trade period, drafts etc and obviously we don't list the guys we're delisting which would be players from the above

I'm obviously missing something?
He means they inflate the average, min, and max caps for lodgement when they'll all be delisted anyway :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 09:17:42 PM
Ada, I would have never given you Gresh if I knew you were going to on trade him to those dirtbags at Cairo!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on August 31, 2017, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 09:17:42 PM
Ada, I would have never given you Gresh if I knew you were going to on trade him to those dirtbags at Cairo!
You know what to do.

Lester for Gresh!  ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 10:53:20 AM
CARLTON has made a further four list changes, with Liam Sumner and Andrew Gallucci delisted, while Daniel Gorringe and Matthew Korcheck have retired.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2017, 03:33:29 PM
A duck walked up to the WXVs administration and he said to the man running the comp.

"Hey! Got any trade vote results?"
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 01, 2017, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2017, 03:33:29 PM
A duck walked up to the WXVs administration and he said to the man running the comp.

"Hey! Got any trade vote results?"
The administrator said

"No. We don't have any trade vote results and we don't give them to ducks. Now get out of my competition."
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2017, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 01, 2017, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2017, 03:33:29 PM
A duck walked up to the WXVs administration and he said to the man running the comp.

"Hey! Got any trade vote results?"
The administrator said

"No. We don't have any trade vote results and we don't give them to ducks. Now get out of my competition."
RIP Joel and Scooter.  :'(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 01, 2017, 03:44:50 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2017, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 01, 2017, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2017, 03:33:29 PM
A duck walked up to the WXVs administration and he said to the man running the comp.

"Hey! Got any trade vote results?"
The administrator said

"No. We don't have any trade vote results and we don't give them to ducks. Now get out of my competition."
RIP Joel and Scooter.  :'(

Ha, nah none yet.

These teams still to vote:

Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
PNL Reindeers
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Seoul Magpies
Tokyo Samurai
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2017, 03:54:16 PM
Late pick added to cover points difference as well.

Pick 86...

Lucky that bad boy was included! That 0.1 worth of points value makes all the difference.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)

Then hit us up and we'll beat RD's offer >:D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2017, 05:38:28 PM
92 average Higgo could move. Small chance that he retains forward status but I'm pretty sure he'll be a mid.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)

Then hit us up and we'll beat RD's offer >:D

You just got 2 for 1!

Back of the line now ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)

Then hit us up and we'll beat RD's offer >:D

You just got 2 for 1!

Back of the line now ;)
2 for what would have been our 2018-2038 perma captain
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)

Then hit us up and we'll beat RD's offer >:D

You just got 2 for 1!

Back of the line now ;)
2 for what would have been our 2018-2038 perma captain

Nobody forced you to do it :P

Any regret now that a few days have passed?

Big decision to let him go

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 01, 2017, 07:50:19 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)

Then hit us up and we'll beat RD's offer >:D

You just got 2 for 1!

Back of the line now ;)
2 for what would have been our 2018-2038 perma captain
And the rest! Matt-GOAT Crouch-GOAT
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)

Then hit us up and we'll beat RD's offer >:D

You just got 2 for 1!

Back of the line now ;)
2 for what would have been our 2018-2038 perma captain

Nobody forced you to do it :P

Any regret now that a few days have passed?

Big decision to let him go
A little bit of me does yep. This is BTB we're talking about! It wasn't an easy decision no, had to be worth our while
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2017, 07:56:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)

Then hit us up and we'll beat RD's offer >:D

You just got 2 for 1!

Back of the line now ;)
2 for what would have been our 2018-2038 perma captain

Nobody forced you to do it :P

Any regret now that a few days have passed?

Big decision to let him go
A little bit of me does yep. This is BTB we're talking about! It wasn't an easy decision no, had to be worth our while
You'll be laughing when MeneGOATa is the best forward in 2018!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2017, 07:59:07 PM
Pretty sure Jarrad Waite will play on Nige.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 08:03:12 PM
And that Menegola is no chance of being a fwd
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2017, 08:04:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 01, 2017, 07:59:07 PM
Pretty sure Jarrad Waite will play on Nige.
My humblest apologies.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 01, 2017, 08:24:46 PM
Anyone need another mid? Probably not a very good one but another nonetheless.

Griffen, Higgins, Steele, Scully, Fiorini, Hoskin-Elliott, Masten with Alex Neal-Bullen, (C)onnor, McLean, SPS and Wells DPP mids should be enough. Picks 6 and 7 in a mid heavy draft too.

Obviously Jack Steele isn't going to move for anyone other than about 6 specific players but I'm just saying that I've got a few.

Wouldn't mind packaging a couple of these guys, or maybe one with James Stewart or another depth player.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 01, 2017, 09:20:40 PM
Three teams still to vote, so that means the following (all on zero votes) will auto-pass regardless of how the remaining teams vote.

Remember, the 'neg' levels are:

- 0-3 votes is an auto-pass
- 4-5 votes passes the trade with the admin having the power to reject it
- 6-7 votes fails a trade with the admin having the power to pass it
- 8+ votes is an auto-fail.




Trade 1
New York trade: David Mundy, Jade Gresham + Zachary Clarke
Toronto trade: Pearce Hanley, Pick 32 + Pick 50

Trade 2
Toronto trade: Mitch Duncan + Lewis Taylor
Cape Town trade: Dion Prestia, Blake Acres + Pick 4

Trade 3
Cairo trade: Josh Smith + Pick 25
Cape Town trade: Tim Broomhead, Mitch Honeychurch + Pick 41

Trade 4
Toronto trade: Harry McKay + Cameron Polson
Buenos Aires trade: Bailey Rice + Taylin Duman

Trade 5
Cairo trade: Rhys Mathieson, Dom Sheed + Pick 6
London trade: Dan Hannebery + Maverick Weller

Trade 6
Cairo trade: Pick 43
Beijing trade: Matthew Flynn


Trade 9
Beijing trade: Pick 43
Christchurch trade: Mitch McCarthy + Pick 62

Trade 10
Cairo trade: Pick 41
Christchurch trade: Corey Ellis

Trade 11
New York trade: Brennan Cox + Pick 32
Christchurch trade: Ryan Lester

Trade 13
Seoul trade: Lachie Whitfield, Will Hayward + Tom Doedee
Buenos Aires trade: Zach Tuohy, Isaac Smith +  Pick 56

Trade 14
Tokyo trade: Luke Parker + Reilly O'Brien
Buenos Aires trade: Lachie Whitfield + Harry Perryman

Trade 15
Pacific trade: Lee Spurr
Christchurch trade: Harry Wigg

Trade 18
Berlin trade: Joshua Begley
Moscow trade: Wayne Milera
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 01, 2017, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2017, 07:56:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)

Then hit us up and we'll beat RD's offer >:D

You just got 2 for 1!

Back of the line now ;)
2 for what would have been our 2018-2038 perma captain

Nobody forced you to do it :P

Any regret now that a few days have passed?

Big decision to let him go
A little bit of me does yep. This is BTB we're talking about! It wasn't an easy decision no, had to be worth our while
You'll be laughing when MeneGOATa is the best forward in 2018!
3 Month DP bet on the cards?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 01, 2017, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 01, 2017, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2017, 07:56:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)

Then hit us up and we'll beat RD's offer >:D

You just got 2 for 1!

Back of the line now ;)
2 for what would have been our 2018-2038 perma captain

Nobody forced you to do it :P

Any regret now that a few days have passed?

Big decision to let him go
A little bit of me does yep. This is BTB we're talking about! It wasn't an easy decision no, had to be worth our while
You'll be laughing when MeneGOATa is the best forward in 2018!
3 Month DP bet on the cards?
That's gonna hurt
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jukes on September 01, 2017, 10:15:20 PM
inb4 huge melt because Kruze and Treloar trades get negged

Be sensible and pass all the trades pls lads
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 01, 2017, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 01, 2017, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 01, 2017, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2017, 07:56:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 01, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 01, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
LOL!

If anyone has a 90+ mid they could move, then hit me up :)

Then hit us up and we'll beat RD's offer >:D

You just got 2 for 1!

Back of the line now ;)
2 for what would have been our 2018-2038 perma captain

Nobody forced you to do it :P

Any regret now that a few days have passed?

Big decision to let him go
A little bit of me does yep. This is BTB we're talking about! It wasn't an easy decision no, had to be worth our while
You'll be laughing when MeneGOATa is the best forward in 2018!
3 Month DP bet on the cards?
That's gonna hurt
Yeah, I rather keep my virginity than lose it that way.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 01, 2017, 10:17:35 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 01, 2017, 10:15:20 PM
inb4 huge melt because Kruze and Treloar trades get negged

Be sensible and pass all the trades pls lads
The way people rate Kreuz, I'm expecting a rejection because we lose too much.  :-X
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 01, 2017, 10:26:43 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 01, 2017, 10:17:35 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 01, 2017, 10:15:20 PM
inb4 huge melt because Kruze and Treloar trades get negged

Be sensible and pass all the trades pls lads
The way people rate Kreuz, I'm expecting a rejection because we lose too much.  :-X

I feel like changing my vote because of these two posts.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 01, 2017, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 01, 2017, 10:26:43 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 01, 2017, 10:17:35 PM
Quote from: Jukes on September 01, 2017, 10:15:20 PM
inb4 huge melt because Kruze and Treloar trades get negged

Be sensible and pass all the trades pls lads
The way people rate Kreuz, I'm expecting a rejection because we lose too much.  :-X

I feel like changing my vote because of these two posts.
;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 02, 2017, 12:13:46 AM
Sorry I've been away for the past week lads.

I'll be free most of the weekend so shoot us some trade offers and let's make some happen!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2017, 10:00:19 AM
We passed all trades, but having just looked over them all again, honestly there is 4 I should have negged  :-X

Guess a few teams might get a bit lucky
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2017, 11:26:46 AM
As I said on discord...

In the redraft this happened and nobody thought much of it at the time...

Christchurch - Pick 39: Mitch Golby
Rio - Pick 40: Patrick Cripps

Cripps coming off a 3 game, 39 average debut season. If someone had have predicted that he's about to explode and traded pick 1 for him it would surely have failed.

He averaged 93 the next year.

You can't block trades because you simply don't know what is going to happen in the future. You may not have agreed that Cripps was worth pick 1 but nobody knows for sure.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2017, 06:23:11 PM
All trades in.

These trades received zero votes:

Trade 2
Toronto trade: Mitch Duncan + Lewis Taylor
Cape Town trade: Dion Prestia, Blake Acres + Pick 4

Trade 3
Cairo trade: Josh Smith + Pick 25
Cape Town trade: Tim Broomhead, Mitch Honeychurch + Pick 41

Trade 4
Toronto trade: Harry McKay + Cameron Polson
Buenos Aires trade: Bailey Rice + Taylin Duman

Trade 5
Cairo trade: Rhys Mathieson, Dom Sheed + Pick 6 
London trade: Dan Hannebery + Maverick Weller

Trade 6
Cairo trade: Pick 43
Beijing trade: Matthew Flynn

Trade 9
Beijing trade: Pick 43
Christchurch trade: Mitch McCarthy + Pick 62

Trade 10
Cairo trade: Pick 41
Christchurch trade: Corey Ellis

Trade 11
New York trade: Brennan Cox + Pick 32
Christchurch trade: Ryan Lester

Trade 13
Seoul trade: Lachie Whitfield, Will Hayward + Tom Doedee
Buenos Aires trade: Zach Tuohy, Isaac Smith +  Pick 56

Trade 14
Tokyo trade: Luke Parker + Reilly O'Brien
Buenos Aires trade: Lachie Whitfield + Harry Perryman

Trade 15
Pacific trade: Lee Spurr
Christchurch trade: Harry Wigg

Trade 18
Berlin trade: Joshua Begley
Moscow trade: Wayne Milera




These trades received 1-3 vote (auto-pass)

Trade 1
New York trade: David Mundy, Jade Gresham + Zachary Clarke
Toronto trade: Pearce Hanley, Pick 32 + Pick 50
Coaches comments: Felt New York was giving too much.
Admin comments: Kewl.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 7 (3 votes)
Toronto trade: Matthew Kreuzer, Jordan De Goey, Callum Brown, Jayden Short, Andrew Phillips + Dan Gorringe
Moscow trade: Nic Naitanui, Jaeger O'Meara, Jesse Hogan + Pick 42
Coaches comments: Felt Toronto was losing by too much; expressing the concern that there isn't too much difference in value between NN and Kreuz.
Admin comments:
Verdict: PASS

Trade 8 (2 votes)
New Delhi trade: Seb Ross
Tokyo trade: Luke Dahlhaus
Coaches comments: Felt that Dahlhaus would keep Forward status, and given similar age and output, is an unfair trade.
Admin comments: Quality youngster for another quality youngster. If the worst scenario happens for Tokyo and Dahl keeps forward status, I guess he still has Ross pumping out a 100 average to make him feel better.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 12
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 84
Christchurch trade: Jed Anderson + Pick 80
I hope everyone actually took a good look at this trade, because it makes no sense and I would have rejected it. It's not Pick 84 + Anderson FOR Pick 80, it's Pick 80 AND Anderson FOR Pick 84!!!

Trade 19
Christchurch trade: Jordan Roughead + Timothy English
London trade: Pick 6
Coaches comments: Felt Pick 6 was worth more.
Admin comments: Maybe, maybe not.
Verdict: PASS




These trades received 5 votes

Trade 16
Dublin trade: Adam Treloar, Nathan Jones, Oscar McInerny, Aidyn Johnson + Pick 37
Dublin recieve: Matt Crouch + Steven May

Moscow trade: Sam Menegola + Steven May 
Moscow recieve: Adam Treloar, Aidyn Johnson, Pick 31 + Pick 37

Berlin trade: Jack Steven + Pick 31
Berlin receive: Nathan Jones + Pick 16

New Delhi trade: Matt Crouch + Pick 16
New Delhi receive: Sam Menegola, Jack Steven + Oscar McInerny

Coaches comments: The most prevalent reasons were that New Delhi are winning by too much and Moscow are losing by too much. Seemed to be a consensus that McInerney has more value than what is being showed here. Felt Berlin part was fine.
Admin comments: Right. There is a couple of things I'm considering here A) I'm involved and B) there are 14 unbiased coaches, rather than 16. I therefore think that the 'neg' level of 6-7 should be brought down to 5-6, meaning that this trade has failed, but I have the power to overturn it. Given I am a part of this trade, and that I don't disagree with those coaches enough, I don't think its appropriate for me to turn it over, as frustrating as this might be.
Verdict: REJECTED

Trade 17
Mexico City trade: Brett Deledio + Lachlan Tiziani
Dublin trade: Jack Silvagni, Lachie Plowman, Ryan Schoenmakers, Pick 18 + Pick 55
Coaches comments: 4 coaches believed Dublin needed to give less quantity essentially, and more quantity. The other coach felt Dublin was giving too much quantity for Deledio.
Admin comments: I think Schoenmakers + Pick 55 is worth about Tiziani. Given Deledio's age and recent injury history, I think the compensation of Pick 18, Plowman and Silvagni is enough not to overturn this trade from a PASS to a REJECTED.
Verdict: PASS




A STRONG and PERSISTENT reminder, that if you feel aggrieved by the decision that you don't express such aggravation publicly, as it tends to get personal. Please, PM me, because this can be easily worked out if we all have an open mind and calmly proceed.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: upthemaidens on September 02, 2017, 06:36:37 PM
Trade 12
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 84
Christchurch trade: Jed Anderson + Pick 80
I hope everyone actually took a good look at this trade, because it makes no sense and I would have rejected it. It's not Pick 84 + Anderson FOR Pick 80, it's Pick 80 AND Anderson FOR Pick 84!!!

I have to say I thought that was a joke one.  How can a pick become less valuable by adding a player?
   Anderson has negative value.  Poor dude must be depressed.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 02, 2017, 06:41:43 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on September 02, 2017, 06:36:37 PM
Trade 12
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 84
Christchurch trade: Jed Anderson + Pick 80
I hope everyone actually took a good look at this trade, because it makes no sense and I would have rejected it. It's not Pick 84 + Anderson FOR Pick 80, it's Pick 80 AND Anderson FOR Pick 84!!!

I have to say I thought that was a joke one.  How can a pick become less valuable by adding a player?
   Anderson has negative value.  Poor dude must be depressed.

Its an illegal trade in my books. It should not even have gone to vote.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: upthemaidens on September 02, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 02, 2017, 06:41:43 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on September 02, 2017, 06:36:37 PM
Trade 12
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 84
Christchurch trade: Jed Anderson + Pick 80
I hope everyone actually took a good look at this trade, because it makes no sense and I would have rejected it. It's not Pick 84 + Anderson FOR Pick 80, it's Pick 80 AND Anderson FOR Pick 84!!!

I have to say I thought that was a joke one.  How can a pick become less valuable by adding a player?
   Anderson has negative value.  Poor dude must be depressed.

Its an illegal trade in my books. It should not even have gone to vote.
Clearly.   How can it pass?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 02, 2017, 06:47:06 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on September 02, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 02, 2017, 06:41:43 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on September 02, 2017, 06:36:37 PM
Trade 12
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 84
Christchurch trade: Jed Anderson + Pick 80
I hope everyone actually took a good look at this trade, because it makes no sense and I would have rejected it. It's not Pick 84 + Anderson FOR Pick 80, it's Pick 80 AND Anderson FOR Pick 84!!!

I have to say I thought that was a joke one.  How can a pick become less valuable by adding a player?
   Anderson has negative value.  Poor dude must be depressed.

Its an illegal trade in my books. It should not even have gone to vote.
Clearly.   How can it pass?

I dont think it did, i think purp put it in their to say people should have rejected it. Its why i commented on it here as im pretty sure its not a valid trade.

note there was no PASS
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: upthemaidens on September 02, 2017, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 02, 2017, 06:47:06 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on September 02, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 02, 2017, 06:41:43 PM
Quote from: upthemaidens on September 02, 2017, 06:36:37 PM
Trade 12
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 84
Christchurch trade: Jed Anderson + Pick 80
I hope everyone actually took a good look at this trade, because it makes no sense and I would have rejected it. It's not Pick 84 + Anderson FOR Pick 80, it's Pick 80 AND Anderson FOR Pick 84!!!

I have to say I thought that was a joke one.  How can a pick become less valuable by adding a player?
   Anderson has negative value.  Poor dude must be depressed.

Its an illegal trade in my books. It should not even have gone to vote.
Clearly.   How can it pass?

I dont think it did, i think purp put it in their to say people should have rejected it. Its why i commented on it here as im pretty sure its not a valid trade.

note there was no PASS
Oh so it didn't  haha    I still feel sorry for Anderson.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: DazBurg on September 02, 2017, 06:58:46 PM
Trade 7 (3 votes)
Toronto trade: Matthew Kreuzer, Jordan De Goey, Callum Brown, Jayden Short, Andrew Phillips + Dan Gorringe
Moscow trade: Nic Naitanui, Jaeger O'Meara, Jesse Hogan + Pick 42
Coaches comments: Felt Toronto was losing by too much; expressing the concern that there isn't too much difference in value between NN and Kreuz.
Admin comments:
Verdict: PASS

Auto-Fail

9. Trading of Officially Retired Players
A) Continue to allow for those struggling with minimum cap
B) Disallow

A: 4
B: 13

sorry Gorringe retired trade is null

LOLOLOL sorry just stirring
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2017, 06:59:03 PM
Yeah it passed.

Let it act as an example of why coaches should pay attention to the trades :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2017, 07:35:31 PM
We pay attention, and we knew it made no sense, but the coaches agreed to it and it's meaningful in terms of what it involved so we just passed it to punish them lol
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 02, 2017, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 02, 2017, 06:59:03 PM
Yeah it passed.

Let it act as an example of why coaches should pay attention to the trades :P
What if we pointed out that it was stupid but passed it because it was too irrelevant for us to care :p
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 02, 2017, 07:41:21 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 02, 2017, 06:58:46 PM
Trade 7 (3 votes)
Toronto trade: Matthew Kreuzer, Jordan De Goey, Callum Brown, Jayden Short, Andrew Phillips + Dan Gorringe
Moscow trade: Nic Naitanui, Jaeger O'Meara, Jesse Hogan + Pick 42
Coaches comments: Felt Toronto was losing by too much; expressing the concern that there isn't too much difference in value between NN and Kreuz.
Admin comments:
Verdict: PASS

Auto-Fail

9. Trading of Officially Retired Players
A) Continue to allow for those struggling with minimum cap
B) Disallow

A: 4
B: 13

sorry Gorringe retired trade is null

LOLOLOL sorry just stirring

Is actually a good point.

But I'll let it slide because Gorringe wasn't retired before this trade was posted, and it's also not a blatant attempt to get over the minimum cap.

But yeah, thanks for bringing that up actually :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2017, 08:49:23 PM
Pick 1: McLuggage
Pick 8: Petrevski-Seton

Pick 7: Willem Drew
Pick 44: Sean Darcy

Clearly the later the pick, the better the result.

Pick 80: some spud
Pick 84: some gun
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 02, 2017, 08:58:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2017, 08:49:23 PM
Pick 1: McLuggage
Pick 8: Petrevski-Seton

Pick 7: Willem Drew
Pick 44: Sean Darcy

Clearly the later the pick, the better the result.

Pick 80: some spud
Pick 84: some gun

85. New York - Simon Tunbridge
86. New Delhi - PASS

Confirmed
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 02, 2017, 09:20:47 PM
LMAO Quality!  ;D

We only picked him because we needed him to fill the list requirement!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2017, 09:58:03 PM
Anyone got a couple of picks in the 80's that they're willing to trade for picks 6 + 7?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2017, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 02, 2017, 09:58:03 PM
Anyone got a couple of picks in the 80's that they're willing to trade for picks 6 + 7?
Happy to trade N79 for N6.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2017, 10:04:57 PM
79 isn't in the 80's pal
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 02, 2017, 10:08:49 PM
Can someone trade us a pick in the 80s so that we can trade it to meow for Pick 6?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 02, 2017, 10:35:19 PM
Got the last offocial pick in the draft.

I must be getting a superstar.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 02, 2017, 10:48:45 PM
^probably will. Got that Port gun ridiculously cheap last year.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 03, 2017, 12:39:37 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Where do you have the Min/Max. Caps on show, Purple?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 02:40:26 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 03, 2017, 12:39:37 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Where do you have the Min/Max. Caps on show, Purple?

Must've accidentally deleted it, will re-add it to that thread now
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: MajorLazer on September 03, 2017, 04:56:23 PM
Ok honestly how in the world did pick 35 do anything to even up he trade?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 03, 2017, 04:58:05 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 03, 2017, 04:56:23 PM
Ok honestly how in the world did pick 35 do anything to even up he trade?
Feel free to post your honest opinion here.  :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: MajorLazer on September 03, 2017, 05:02:15 PM
For everyone's sake I won't.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 03, 2017, 05:06:52 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 03, 2017, 05:02:15 PM
For everyone's sake I won't.
So essentially, your opinion is deemed invalid?  ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 03, 2017, 05:16:30 PM
Well we can only go off the comments of those coaches that neggd ML.

One that had Menegola/Crouch averages both at 106 and not 110 & 100, clearing that up should be the difference in that vote.

McInerny was a little over valued in some, but even so the 2nd round pick should be more than enough for him, and some.

Then there was the fwd suggestion for Menegola. Which hopefully broken down enough suggests otherwise

Some suggested we need to give a little more and Moscow need to receive a bit more. Thats why the 2nd rounder was added

One suggested Dublin gave up a little too much for what they received. Another stated the opposite. So Holz can't really please both there
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 03, 2017, 05:51:17 PM
Premiership Standard
The 1st Edition Article Written by WXV Coach Levi434.



It's abundantly clear why were are all here playing this game of WXV. All of us are here to win a Premiership. To me it seems this trade period teams are slightly tentative to pull the trigger on a few trades. In spite of the fact meow meow's annual trade confabulation thread was opened in April. In spite of the fact that trading is free and unlimited. In spite of the fact a number of coaches have offered 100+ players. We have seen less and less trades each year for the past number.

2016: 108
2015: 108
2014: 152

How many will we get this year? Who knows? We are off to a pretty hectic start but it's fairly obvious that trade discussion has already died down a great deal in comparison to the first few days. If things stay the way they are I'd suspect no more than 70 total.

Now what is the purpose of me writing this up? Firstly, I'd like to encourage a few bolder trades for every team. Secondly, I've spoken to a number of teams, a number of coaches. Unfortunately given the nature of this comp, we don't have a lot of nice things to say about each other.

Two reasons trades are becoming harder to complete:
1.) Player attachment is a killer.
2.) Coaches are getting frustrated at how long it takes to "win" at this thing.

Let's break these down.
Player attachment is a subjective thing. Due to this I will only talk about my own experiences. I do however, know of many coaches who are feeling the same. Elliot Yeo is my favourite player in the game. I've been offered 2 90+ mids for him. I offerred him for the 1st overall pick. Both of which offers I would not do purely because "I love Yeo." "I rate him higher."

Is this fair for me to say?

You tell me what would you rather have?
-A 25 year old back who averages 84. He's scored 4 tons this year.
-A 25 year old back who averages 84. He's scored 4 tons this year.

Some reason the moment we attach a name to this everything changes? It changes enough to the point that if I added a 1st round pick on top of the first back I still can't get the 2nd back?

Part 2. Think about the last video game that you played. How long did it take you to finish it? 10 hours? 2 hours? What about the last time you downloaded a game for your phone? I bet you've deleted 5 times as many apps as you've kept. Yes I understand this is a different sort of game but the concepts still apply. When something isn't working we get angry, frustrated and paranoid. That is normal and fair. Dreamteam though? Supercoach? What about them? All of us play at least one or two of these comps alongside WXV. That's a year long game. A player scores low, we trade him out. A player looks to be improving, we trade him in. Pretty basic stuff we all know right?

World XV has 18 teams multiplied by 6 years that is 108 coaches. Only 5 coaches in history have ever won. What makes us so confident that we can be the 6th? The very fact that there have been coaches in this competition for all 6 years shows everything. There have been faithful individuals who have played for 5-6 seasons. What do they have to show for it? Hardly anything.

A lot of rambling so far right? Here is the information you need. If the 6 years of WXV each team that has won the Grand Final has a number of things in common. I have created an idiot proof list for all of us to look over. This is purely for the purpose to highlight exactly what is needed to win a GF.

Injuries:
On the whole every single Grand Final winning team has had at least 1 injury or DNP from their best team. Some teams up to 4. On average 2. Basically we can derive that this isn't XV's this is actually XVII's. Unless you have some immediate depth to account for injury, then winning this comp may be tough.

Average Captain Score in the Grand Final: 145.5

Every single Grand Final team has made a great call with their captain. Only 1 score has ever been below 140 and that was a 116. Clearly if you don't have a guy who can score 140+ then you ain't winning the Premiership.

Defenders:
Every single Grand Final winning team has at least one player averaging over 84. Every single Grand Final winning team's defence line has averaged 297 or more. That is 74.25 per player. If we take out the 2 outlier teams. 1 of which had Robert Murphy out. Then the average defence was 320.8 or 80.2 per player.

Midfielders:
Every single midfield unit has 3 or more players averaging 88 or more. That is the top 4 mids NOT including utilities. 421.65 is the Premiership Standard midfield. 105+ per mid.

Ruck:
Ever single team bar 1 had a 86+ ruck. The team missing the ruck had Todd Goldstein as an out that week in the GF. Goldstein averaged 106.8 that year. Overall the rucks averaged 101.48. What about teams who had 2 rucks? Out of the data we have there were two teams who had 2 starting rucks obviously playing 1 in the IC. How many of those 2 teams won? That's right 2. Having 2 rucks in your team is a Premiership lock. That reminds me Levi434 has offered Sam Jacobs around. No bites yet...

Forward Line:
Without a doubt the most important line in WXV's history. Every single forward line bar one has 3 or more players averaging 83 or more. 5 out of the 6 have at least 1 player averaging 95.5 or more. The other was Dublin this year who had all 4 of their forwards between 82.8 and 86.1.

Interchange:
Only 3 out of the 12 named interchange players in GF winning teams were NOT mids. The 3? Nick Riewoldt, Sam Jacobs and Aaron Sandilands. On average IC players average 90.6.

The main number:
1349.1
1336.0
1380.1
1377.0
1340.7
1383.6

These are the average total team scores excluding HGA + Captain bonus. That is 1,361 on average. A low of 1336.

There is no need for a conclusion or for results. The numbers and facts speak for themselves. If you don't match up with these then you are NOT winning WXV's.




Since I know you all want it, I've decided to add a a Premiership Standard: Breakdown Sheet for you to determine if your team is Premiership Standard.

D1: At least 88.5.
D2: At least 84, unless D1 is 91.5+. If so 80+.
D3: At least 68.8. 75+ is preferred.
D4: At least 68.8. Preferably 72+
M1: Minimum 101.2. Ideally 114+.
M2: Above 100.
M3: Above 91.
M4: Above 91. Unless M1 is 114+. If so then 88+.
R1: At least 86.6.
F1: 95.5+ Or all 4 fwds above 82.
F2: At least 83.
F3: At least 83.
F4: At least 73.7.
IC1: A 85+ ruck or 86.7+ mid.
IC2: 86.7+ mid. At least a 77 mid.

EMG1: A 68.8+ defender
EMG2: A 76+ mid
EMG3: A 73+ forward

All of these hold true across all Premiership Winning teams. There is option for an D4, F4 or IC2 to be shifted down to a player averaging at least 68.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 03, 2017, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 03, 2017, 05:51:17 PM
Two reasons trades are becoming harder to complete:
1.) Player attachment is a killer.
2.) Coaches are getting frustrated at how long it takes to "win" at this thing.
3rd reason: Coaches that have insanely warped valuations of players.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 03, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?
It's a concept well known by people with basic human emotions, you wouldn't understand.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2017, 06:23:52 PM
2 rucks = flag?

Vardy available
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 03, 2017, 06:26:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?

Todd Goldstein for Sam Jacobs.

Both are 29.

Jacobs averages 96 and Goldy 95.

Would you do it?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2017, 06:37:17 PM
Let's get to 200!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 03, 2017, 06:40:56 PM
Speaking of Player Attachment. The greatest player in history and the only reason I started WXV in the first place: Gary Ablett.

He is cheap as chips at only 497k. Offer me something half decent and he is yours. #NoMoreAttachment

He fills out 1 part of your Premiership Standard also.

You'd have to spend 716k to get a guy who averages 12 points less in JPK. Luke Dahlhaus averages 90 and costs 557k. In my opinion Liam Jones is more valuable than all 3 guys I've mentioned so far. How many backs average 77.5 or more and cost less than 198k?

Jonesy also will help with your Premiership Standard.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: DazBurg on September 03, 2017, 06:43:38 PM
so for those of us not there (PNL)
it is clear to continue with the rebuild as planned and continue to tell coaches who ask for our youth to rack off?....hahahaha
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2017, 06:44:46 PM
Connor 105
McVeigh 85
Lever 85
Wilson 80

Scully 95
Higgo 90
Griff 90
Fiorini 85

Sandi 85

McLean 90
Waite 85
Wells 85
SPS 80

WHE 85
Steele 100

Harris/McKenna 75
Masten/6/7 75
Stringer/Stewart 75

1325 best case scenario. Not good enough. Rebuild or sell future in desperate attempt to improve.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2017, 06:46:11 PM
Pick 7 for Gary
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2017, 06:47:14 PM
Swan with 2 years left went for pick 15 so 7 for injury prone baldie is overs
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 06:50:19 PM
Without looking, I feel like I met that premiership standard this year :P but then again, I used to think all I needed was Fyfe & Gawn, and the rest were interchangeable.

That was a pretty awesome read.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2017, 06:50:42 PM
Purps with an act of desperation. Better trade Buddy since he always single handedly loses his team a final.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2017, 07:00:49 PM
That was a nice read Levi, but unfortunately we have a supply and demand issue in WXV making it impossible for all teams to meet those numbers, hence ever win a flag and that is why we only have a select group of teams actually winning a flag

Everyone would love to win a flag, but it's the participation all year round and managing your own team that gives coaches most joy. Most of us know we won't win a flag anytime soon, but we don't care anyway because we just enjoy being involved

D1: At least 88.5.
D2: At least 84, unless D1 is 91.5+. If so 80+.

Pretty hard for 18 teams to do this when only 22 defenders in the AFL went 84+

M1: Minimum 101.2. Ideally 114+.
M2: Above 100.

Only 29 mids went 100+

R1: At least 86.6.

15 rucks met this target, but we will remove Gawn, Simpson, Sandi and Bellchambers due to missing so many games

F1: 95.5+ Or all 4 fwds above 82.
F2: At least 83.
F3: At least 83.

7 forwards in the entire comp hit 95+, and then 27 more went between 83 and 95, but we need 2 of them each



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
Lids two forward seasons @90 for 18
Goddard two def seasons @90 for 16

GAJ one mid season @95 (playing forward), one fwd season @90 for pick 7? overs
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2017, 07:15:08 PM
I'll need your 2nd rounder too thanks Levi434
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on September 03, 2017, 10:22:33 PM
Our B&F winners BJ and Lids gone. The other 2 still on our list Cotch and Heater are also very close to being traded tonight
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 04, 2017, 11:30:40 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 03, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?
It's a concept well known by people with basic human emotions, you wouldn't understand.

Thats a yellow card son, do it again and I'll send you for an early shower
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 04, 2017, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 03, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?
It's a concept well known by people with basic human emotions, you wouldn't understand.
I don't know, I experience Joy and Excitement watching my team always being competitive and competing for premierships every year. Then again Competing is not a concept you would understand.

If I had your team id trade out my favorite players as it would hurt me to see them do nothing every single year.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 04, 2017, 11:46:54 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 04, 2017, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 03, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?
It's a concept well known by people with basic human emotions, you wouldn't understand.
I don't know, I experience Joy and Excitement watching my team always being competitive and competing for premierships every year. Then again Competing is not a concept you would understand.

If I had your team id trade out my favorite players as it would hurt me to see them do nothing every single year.
Wowee, that one measured 8.2 on the rekter scale
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 04, 2017, 11:48:44 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 04, 2017, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 03, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?
It's a concept well known by people with basic human emotions, you wouldn't understand.
I don't know, I experience Joy and Excitement watching my team always being competitive and competing for premierships every year. Then again Competing is not a concept you would understand.

If I had your team id trade out my favorite players as it would hurt me to see them do nothing every single year.

(https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Q6RDZJcgP6f8CWQsX_RqLQE8DF&pid=15.1)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2017, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 04, 2017, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 03, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?
It's a concept well known by people with basic human emotions, you wouldn't understand.
I don't know, I experience Joy and Excitement watching my team always being competitive and competing for premierships every year. Then again Competing is not a concept you would understand.

If I had your team id trade out my favorite players as it would hurt me to see them do nothing every single year.
I really think the season we just had says otherwise.

And this post says you feel differently.

Quote from: Holz on July 23, 2017, 09:02:48 PM
Geez unlucky nige.

Your boys turned up.

Cairo on the up if not this year then finals next year. I just hope beams can play 20+ for you next year. Cairo deserves their faith repaid

Another backflip?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 04, 2017, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 04, 2017, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 04, 2017, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 03, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?
It's a concept well known by people with basic human emotions, you wouldn't understand.
I don't know, I experience Joy and Excitement watching my team always being competitive and competing for premierships every year. Then again Competing is not a concept you would understand.

If I had your team id trade out my favorite players as it would hurt me to see them do nothing every single year.
I really think the season we just had says otherwise.

And this post says you feel differently.

Quote from: Holz on July 23, 2017, 09:02:48 PM
Geez unlucky nige.

Your boys turned up.

Cairo on the up if not this year then finals next year. I just hope beams can play 20+ for you next year. Cairo deserves their faith repaid

Another backflip?

Yeah on the up, ill stand by that. Just making finals is doing nothing, thats not contending. I do hope Beams can play 20+ games I like him. However realistically if you traded him years ago when you had huge offers thrown at you then you might have made finals this year.

No back flip here. Succeeding and Contending for me is winning a premiership. Making finals and going out in round 1 might be a huge success for you and you might have alot of fun doing that, its all relative.





Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 04, 2017, 12:08:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 04, 2017, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 04, 2017, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 04, 2017, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 03, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?
It's a concept well known by people with basic human emotions, you wouldn't understand.
I don't know, I experience Joy and Excitement watching my team always being competitive and competing for premierships every year. Then again Competing is not a concept you would understand.

If I had your team id trade out my favorite players as it would hurt me to see them do nothing every single year.
I really think the season we just had says otherwise.

And this post says you feel differently.

Quote from: Holz on July 23, 2017, 09:02:48 PM
Geez unlucky nige.

Your boys turned up.

Cairo on the up if not this year then finals next year. I just hope beams can play 20+ for you next year. Cairo deserves their faith repaid

Another backflip?

Yeah on the up, ill stand by that. Just making finals is doing nothing, thats not contending. I do hope Beams can play 20+ games I like him. However realistically if you traded him years ago when you had huge offers thrown at you then you might have made finals this year.

No back flip here. Succeeding and Contending for me is winning a premiership. Making finals and going out in round 1 might be a huge success for you and you might have alot of fun doing that, its all relative.
Rumour has it that they didn't even make finals. Nigey's tears continue to fill our dams to this day.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2017, 12:45:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 04, 2017, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 04, 2017, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 04, 2017, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 03, 2017, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 03, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Levi what is this player attachment you speak of?
It's a concept well known by people with basic human emotions, you wouldn't understand.
I don't know, I experience Joy and Excitement watching my team always being competitive and competing for premierships every year. Then again Competing is not a concept you would understand.

If I had your team id trade out my favorite players as it would hurt me to see them do nothing every single year.
I really think the season we just had says otherwise.

And this post says you feel differently.

Quote from: Holz on July 23, 2017, 09:02:48 PM
Geez unlucky nige.

Your boys turned up.

Cairo on the up if not this year then finals next year. I just hope beams can play 20+ for you next year. Cairo deserves their faith repaid

Another backflip?

Yeah on the up, ill stand by that. Just making finals is doing nothing, thats not contending. I do hope Beams can play 20+ games I like him. However realistically if you traded him years ago when you had huge offers thrown at you then you might have made finals this year.

No back flip here. Succeeding and Contending for me is winning a premiership. Making finals and going out in round 1 might be a huge success for you and you might have alot of fun doing that, its all relative.
Exactly, it's relative.

We had considerable success based on the general predictions (and even the 'official' ones by Purps which had us last). I've admitted that maybe we did overachieve if anything, but that's better than languishing and not being competitive.

We were posting good scores and 'contending' most of the year as we were in the 8. In fact, at one point we were only percentage behind Dublin (a lot of team had a habit of turning up against us, the last 6 rounds is proof of that).

We're relatively happy with the season we had because it was a step in the right direction. Not every team can be 'making finals' or 'winning a premiership' every year, but I think we're well on track to do so.

Although it doesn't help when teams currently at the top get gifted players to help them retain their position. Just means we'll have to push our way in and somebody else in the process. Not to mention there's also a fair amount of a luck for all involved.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 04, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
Nige your avatar is disgusting.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 04, 2017, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 04, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
Nige your avatar is disgusting.

bring back the +1
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2017, 12:58:53 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 04, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
Nige your avatar is disgusting.
Thanks.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Hellopplz on September 04, 2017, 01:23:12 PM
Guys/Gals, once again no personal attacks.

Obviously there is animosity so I'd look to try and avoid the confrontations where possible in the future.

I don't mind if you have views on teams but keep the personal views of the coach out of it please.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 04, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 04, 2017, 01:23:12 PM
Guys/Gals, once again no personal attacks.

Obviously there is animosity so I'd look to try and avoid the confrontations where possible in the future.

I don't mind if you have views on teams but keep the personal views of the coach out of it please.
Who called the fun police!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 04, 2017, 01:55:33 PM
Torp called me a spud on discord. Compo.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 04, 2017, 02:00:04 PM
(C)onnor for sale. Averaged 110 after he played 20 AFL games and decided to become gun. Will average 105 as a defender so I'll be looking for a 113 mid depending on age.

That's why trades don't get done. 
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2017, 02:10:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 04, 2017, 02:00:04 PM
(C)onnor for sale. Averaged 110 after he played 20 AFL games and decided to become gun. Will average 105 as a defender so I'll be looking for a 113 mid depending on age.

That's why trades don't get done.

Let me get Vardy first, and then I''ll trade you Vardy for (C)onnor
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 04, 2017, 02:19:33 PM
Get Josh Kelly and trade him for Vardy and it's possible.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 04, 2017, 04:49:55 PM
Cloke
PDavis
Krakouer
SiWhite
Grey
Sumner

Want to take a punt on any of these guys? Hit me up with picks, pick upgrades, whateva
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 04, 2017, 04:56:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 04, 2017, 04:49:55 PM
Cloke
PDavis
Krakouer
SiWhite
Grey
Sumner

Want to take a punt on any of these guys? Hit me up with picks, pick upgrades, whateva

geez what happend to Cloke 2.0

what a fall from grace.

98
81
94
73
69
65 - dropped
69 - dropped

only just turned 30 too.

Knowing North we will probably delist Ben Brown and pick up Cloke.







Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2017, 05:23:32 PM
You better not trade Simon White!

Future NDT HOFer
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 04, 2017, 06:15:37 PM
Remind me to suggest a new rule next year stating that every team must do at least 5 trades. AFL teams are required to turn over at least 3 senior list spots every year so it's not absurd.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 04, 2017, 06:20:47 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 04, 2017, 06:15:37 PM
Remind me to suggest a new rule next year stating that every team must do at least 5 trades. AFL teams are required to turn over at least 3 senior list spots every year so it's not absurd.

Pretty dead around here huh  :-[
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 04, 2017, 06:23:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 04, 2017, 06:15:37 PM
Remind me to suggest a new rule next year stating that every team must do at least 5 trades. AFL teams are required to turn over at least 3 senior list spots every year so it's not absurd.

every year someone stays on your list they go up 5% in Cap.

Dangerfield would cost like $1.1 million
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 04, 2017, 06:23:50 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 04, 2017, 06:23:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 04, 2017, 06:15:37 PM
Remind me to suggest a new rule next year stating that every team must do at least 5 trades. AFL teams are required to turn over at least 3 senior list spots every year so it's not absurd.

every year someone stays on your list they go up 5% in Cap.

Dangerfield would cost like $1.1 million

And I still wouldnt trade him  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 05, 2017, 12:27:08 AM
I happen to like Nige's new avatar...
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jukes on September 05, 2017, 12:32:48 AM
I rate my avatar tbh
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 05, 2017, 12:37:09 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 04, 2017, 04:56:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 04, 2017, 04:49:55 PM
Cloke
PDavis
Krakouer
SiWhite
Grey
Sumner

Want to take a punt on any of these guys? Hit me up with picks, pick upgrades, whateva

geez what happend to Cloke 2.0

what a fall from grace.

98
81
94
73
69
65 - dropped
69 - dropped

only just turned 30 too.

Knowing North we will probably delist Ben Brown and pick up Cloke.
That's Cloke 7.0 to you
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2017, 02:37:59 PM
What can we do to get a LIFT!! around here?

So flat, not much trades going on and it's so early in the period too

Maybe we need a new rule that every 3 years coaches and teams are swapped around  ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 05, 2017, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2017, 02:37:59 PM
What can we do to get a LIFT!! around here?

So flat, not much trades going on and it's so early in the period too

Maybe we need a new rule that every 3 years coaches and teams are swapped around  ;D
Gonna trade NY for another team? Understandable ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2017, 03:27:22 PM
It would be a fun concept though

Imagine, each coach gets to keep 3 players from their current team to take with them, and then we lotto off which coach gets which new team, and then you have the team plus your 3 players you brought with you, and then the trade period would be pumping because everyone has fresh new sides to develop their own way

I know it won''t happen, but it would be a lot of fun

Most teams are now either established, or heading to the draft, so the trade period (which is usually the most exciting time of the year) has now become somewhat boring, and that sucks  :'(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 05, 2017, 03:41:05 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/5c87f3607c1bf9a62fa33827c5dc7acb.png)

Looks like talks are getting done to me RD!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 05, 2017, 03:57:18 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2017, 03:27:22 PM
It would be a fun concept though

Imagine, each coach gets to keep 3 players from their current team to take with them, and then we lotto off which coach gets which new team, and then you have the team plus your 3 players you brought with you, and then the trade period would be pumping because everyone has fresh new sides to develop their own way

I know it won''t happen, but it would be a lot of fun

Most teams are now either established, or heading to the draft, so the trade period (which is usually the most exciting time of the year) has now become somewhat boring, and that sucks  :'(
What if we were forced to put 7-10 of our players into a draft pool and have a draft each year?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on September 05, 2017, 03:57:52 PM
We do have roughly 2 months or more before trading ends.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 05, 2017, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 05, 2017, 03:41:05 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/5c87f3607c1bf9a62fa33827c5dc7acb.png)

Looks like talks are getting done to me RD!
Hi quality premo's involved in these talks too. About the shake the whole competition up!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 05, 2017, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 05, 2017, 03:41:05 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/5c87f3607c1bf9a62fa33827c5dc7acb.png)

Looks like talks are getting done to me RD!

Haha, well if the message I got from Toga is anything like the rest of those talks then I don't think many of them will result in trades  ;D :P

You're killin me Toges!  ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2017, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 05, 2017, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 05, 2017, 03:41:05 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/5c87f3607c1bf9a62fa33827c5dc7acb.png)

Looks like talks are getting done to me RD!
Hi quality premo's involved in these talks too. About the shake the whole competition up!

Negged
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 05, 2017, 06:01:51 PM
Kieren Jack
Peter Wright
Darcy Lang
Dean Kent
Stewart Crameri
Ben Griffiths

Happy to hear offers swapping them for a mid or defender, possibly a pick.

Cam Hewett
Brad Lynch
Jono Freeman
Jon Griffin

Happy to trade for picks.

Will Schofield
Nathan Drummond
Jesse Palmer
Sam Fisher
Jimmy Toumpas
Craig Bird

Maybe happy to trade for picks or a player, depending on what's offered.

Also happy to package as many of any of these players as you want if I like the offer. May also accept very minor pick upgrades.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2017, 07:12:00 PM
Docherty, Greene, Titchell, N Haynes, B Crouch

Jack Martin, Daniher, Hogan, Grundy, Macrae

Billings, Josh Kelly, Bontempelli, Nankervis, BTB, Cripps

De Goey, Steele, Blakely

Clayton Oliver, Weitering, Charlie Curnow
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 05, 2017, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2017, 07:12:00 PM
Docherty, Greene, Titchell, N Haynes, B Crouch

Jack Martin, Daniher, Hogan, Grundy, Macrae

Billings, Josh Kelly, Bontempelli, Nankervis, BTB, Cripps

De Goey, Steele, Blakely

Clayton Oliver, Weitering, Charlie Curnow

Grouped in their different draft years but that's all i've got
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 05, 2017, 07:25:13 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 05, 2017, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2017, 07:12:00 PM
Docherty, Greene, Titchell, N Haynes, B Crouch

Jack Martin, Daniher, Hogan, Grundy, Macrae

Billings, Josh Kelly, Bontempelli, Nankervis, BTB, Cripps

De Goey, Steele, Blakely

Clayton Oliver, Weitering, Charlie Curnow

Grouped in their different draft years but that's all i've got
It's Meow, who knows!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2017, 07:25:30 PM
All available and taken at pick 6 or later in WXV drafts.

Anyone want both pick 6 and 7 for a chance to grab the next Oliver and Docherty? There's going to be some elite talents available as history shows.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on September 05, 2017, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 05, 2017, 07:25:30 PM
All available and taken at pick 6 or later in WXV drafts.

Anyone want both pick 6 and 7 for a chance to grab the next Oliver and Docherty? There's going to be some elite talents available as history shows.

Well when you put it like that i should probably give you N1 for one of them
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2017, 07:43:56 PM
Tom Boyd over Kelly, Bont, BTB, Cripps... You might be onto something.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 05, 2017, 07:45:42 PM
Dayle Garlett was the real #1 pick in that draft
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 05, 2017, 07:57:55 PM
And if 6 + 7 together doesn't make you completely moist, remember that I can also include Nathan Vardy!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 12:17:20 PM
Impressive work by NY. What's the best 18 looking like now RD?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 06, 2017, 12:18:10 PM
Just 4 more teams to go in the latest vote

Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
PNL Reindeers
Seoul Magpies
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 12:36:51 PM
Lift Torp. You and Jukes say you never neg so it should take you 2 seconds to reply saying that.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 01:03:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 12:17:20 PM
Impressive work by NY. What's the best 18 looking like now RD?

Thanks meow  :)

Still looking to do a few things and need to wait on trade votes before we have a good idea of what it looks like
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 01:08:57 PM
Mexico to lose draft picks for being underneath cap
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 01:14:59 PM
They can have Petrie. Has he officially retired? He's playing this week so I'd say no.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 01:19:29 PM
Will be retired at list lodgement as well as Nroo and Stanton  ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2017, 01:23:44 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 01:08:57 PM
Mexico to lose draft picks for being underneath cap

they should be fine, its easy to get over the cap. I reckon he is doing a great job of rebuilding under the circumstances. Its hard to sell high cap players to contending teams, probably getting a little less then with no cap but still doing really well.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 01:23:57 PM
Exactly. They've got ages to get over.

***Purps, don't read the next part***

Me on the other hand, well I've got 1.5 million retiring but that's cool, I was over at the start so if I don't finish over that's my fault, even though teams don't have to cut enough points to be under the real max cap. I have to magically make higher salaries appear out of nowhere.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 01:29:01 PM
Mexico should be fine, and considering we took a chunk of cap off them we gave them a fair bit back

Shaw 537k
Betts 367k
Pick 45 100k
TOTAL 1.04M

Harmes 242k
Hannan 144k
Kirby 100k
Pick 26 100k
Pick 33 100k
TOTAL 686k

Difference 318k, which is bugger all

Factor in their other pending trades (Goddard Berlin, Simmo Toronto etc) and that they are 1.6M above min before these 3 trades they might even be above still, and if not piece of cake to get above
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2017, 01:29:54 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 01:23:57 PM
Exactly. They've got ages to get over.

***Purps, don't read the next part***

Me on the other hand, well I've got 1.5 million retiring but that's cool, I was over at the start so if I don't finish over that's my fault, even though teams don't have to cut enough points to be under the real max cap. I have to magically make higher salaries appear out of nowhere.

Perhaps make sure your not in a position where you lose that many players to retiring. You knew fair well all these players and more could have gone, none where a shock.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on September 06, 2017, 01:32:47 PM
Yeah under the cap atm, but still got a while to get over

Rookie listed players count as part of the salary right?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 01:34:19 PM
Yeah mate
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on September 06, 2017, 01:36:37 PM
Yeah I'll be fine then, but trading Rocky and Cotch may be a bit harder now  :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 06, 2017, 02:04:01 PM
2 teams to go, so these trades (with 1 vote or less) auto-pass

Trade 20
Buenos Aires trade: Taylor Walker + Easton Wood
Beijing trade: Jack Scrimshaw, Sharrod Wellingham + Pick 9

Trade 21
Cairo trade: Koby Stevens + David Cuningham
Toronto trade: Jade Gresham + Sam Kerridge

Trade 22
Toronto trade: Blake Acres, Jake Kelly + Pick 42
Moscow trade: Ryan Clarke, Matt Rosa + Pick 24

Trade 23
New York trade: Mitch Wallis, Darcy Cameron, Pick 14 + Pick 51
PNL trade: Patrick Ryder + Pick 47

Trade 24
New York trade: Tom $cully + Jake Stringer
Christchurch trade: Bryce Gibbs, Pick 26 + Pick 32

Trade 25
Toronto trade: David Cuningham + Pick 86
London trade: Billy Hartung

Trade 27
Cape Town trade: Pick 23 + Pick 25
Christchurch trade: Alex Neal-Bullen

Trade 28
Christchurch trade: PSD Pick 7
London trade: Chris Mayne

Trade 29
Mexico City trade: Brendon Goddard + Josh Williams
Berlin trade: Darcy Byrne-Jones + Pick 16

29 pending on Trade 30
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
:'( I'll always love you Bryce
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on September 06, 2017, 02:20:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
:'( I'll always love you Bryce
Rocky > Gibbs
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 02:23:50 PM
Rocky finally has a coach that knows how to use him. His rubbish kick chasing football was worth nothing to the team. Tagging, sometimes forward roles are good for the team. Lions improved when Tom did this, and this is his future. 79 average in the 2nd half of the year, 1 ton from 10 games. Gun!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on September 06, 2017, 02:28:31 PM
@FantasyFreako
Amazing what an injury can do. @rockwiz38 led the competition for both #AFLFantasy and #SuperCoach points from Rnds 1-8.

When he's fit again he goes back to that role
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
:'( I'll always love you Bryce

We'll take good care of him, and I will ensure the Gibbs > Rocky tradition lives on!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2017, 03:05:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
:'( I'll always love you Bryce

We'll take good care of him, and I will ensure the Gibbs > Rocky tradition lives on!

97 over 21 games and a monster score.

Rocky should destroy that.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 03:07:35 PM
3rd year players.



         
Jack Steele
Connor Blakely
Toby McLean
Jake Lever
Alex Neal-Bullen
Harris Andrews
Conor McKenna
Daniel McKenzie     
Corey Ellis
16 Games   
10
15
12
22
4
17
12
9
11
AVE       
63.8
73.6
70.2
71.9
54
65.5
53.4
53.6
61.7
17 Games   
20
17
19
17
19
22
18
5
6
AVE
91.1
89.2
85.5
79
75.5
69.1
66.1
52.8
46.2

Dan McKenzie hasn't broken through yet but with Joey moving on it may give him an opportunity. Had a bit of interest and am willing to trade him. He's better than what he'll cost you, which would be slightly more than Ellis.

Can't wait for Fiorini's 3rd year, although he'll still be just 20 for the majority of the season while these guys had a few months as 21 year olds. Except Harris, who isn't 21 until December.

McKenzie can be packaged with Vardy, or picks, or both.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 03:18:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 03:05:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
:'( I'll always love you Bryce

We'll take good care of him, and I will ensure the Gibbs > Rocky tradition lives on!

97 over 21 games and a monster score.

Rocky should destroy that.

Yeah he probably will, for the 12 games he plays
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 03:18:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 03:05:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
:'( I'll always love you Bryce

We'll take good care of him, and I will ensure the Gibbs > Rocky tradition lives on!

97 over 21 games and a monster score.

Rocky should destroy that.

Yeah he probably will, for the 12 games he plays

That's the way RD! :D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2017, 03:28:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 03:18:35 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 03:05:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
:'( I'll always love you Bryce

We'll take good care of him, and I will ensure the Gibbs > Rocky tradition lives on!

97 over 21 games and a monster score.

Rocky should destroy that.

Yeah he probably will, for the 12 games he plays

That's the way RD! :D

Fun fact this is what Rocky averaged in the last 4 WXV finals series.

154 141 129 92

This is what Gibbs averaged in the last 4

105 INJURED 108 95


Rocky >>> Gibbs confirmed.




Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 04:42:13 PM
Guys, this is MAJOR news

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-06/potential-no1-pick-goes-under-the-knife

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 04:45:19 PM
I'll start the chain off, and Ada can bring it home

Paddy dow
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 04:46:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 04:42:13 PM
Guys, this is MAJOR news

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-06/potential-no1-pick-goes-under-the-knife
Hopefully he slips to Kate at 39
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2017, 04:49:31 PM
Maybe North will pick him up.

with now 3 clear picks and Dow whatch us pick up some spud.

Rayner the best in the draft anway
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 04:50:37 PM
Potential #1? pfft Ragnar and LDU are 10x the players.

Did not much at the nationals, played a total of 3 TAC games for the season then gets injured. He plays okay in school football but up against the elite talents he's merely average. Should definitely be available at 39.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2017, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 04:50:37 PM
Potential #1? pfft Ragnar and LDU are 10x the players.

Did not much at the nationals, played a total of 3 TAC games for the season then gets injured. He plays okay in school football but up against the elite talents he's merely average. Should definitely be available at 39.

he aint slipping to 6 or 7 meow.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 05:04:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 04:50:37 PM
Potential #1? pfft Ragnar and LDU are 10x the players.

Did not much at the nationals, played a total of 3 TAC games for the season then gets injured. He plays okay in school football but up against the elite talents he's merely average. Should definitely be available at 39.

he aint slipping to 6 or 7 meow.
Correct. He's slipping to 39 :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 04:50:37 PM
Potential #1? pfft Ragnar and LDU are 10x the players.

Did not much at the nationals, played a total of 3 TAC games for the season then gets injured. He plays okay in school football but up against the elite talents he's merely average. Should definitely be available at 39.

he aint slipping to 6 or 7 meow.

Rayner
LDU
Cerra
Dow
Stephenson

Higgins, Brayshaw, Crossley to choose from. Paddy who?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2017, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 04:50:37 PM
Potential #1? pfft Ragnar and LDU are 10x the players.

Did not much at the nationals, played a total of 3 TAC games for the season then gets injured. He plays okay in school football but up against the elite talents he's merely average. Should definitely be available at 39.

he aint slipping to 6 or 7 meow.

Rayner
LDU
Cerra
Dow
Stephenson

Higgins, Brayshaw, Crossley to choose from. Paddy who?

Dow
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on September 06, 2017, 05:11:52 PM
Who to take at 3 will be the question now.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 05:14:43 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 06, 2017, 05:11:52 PM
Who to take at 3 will be the question now.

Hunter Clarke
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 05:14:47 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 06, 2017, 05:11:52 PM
Who to take at 3 will be the question now.

Willem 2.0?  :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: DazBurg on September 06, 2017, 05:17:03 PM
Sorry for being late on votes I've been in Adelaide for new job flying back today in 30 minutes
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on September 06, 2017, 05:28:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 05:14:47 PM
Quote from: Ringo on September 06, 2017, 05:11:52 PM
Who to take at 3 will be the question now.

Willem 2.0?  :P
Willem 3 actually  ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 05:30:50 PM
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Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 05:31:29 PM
I knew you wouldn't let me down Ada!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 05:32:41 PM
Far out I cannot wait to type out his name at Pick 4.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 05:39:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2017, 05:04:16 PM
LDU

You love them

I like to call LDU 'Boomz'. Props to anyone who gets the reference.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelaideCrows/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/SMITH%20Brodie.png)

Available for the highest draft pick offered.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelaideCrows/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/SMITH%20Brodie.png)

Available for the highest draft pick offered.
39, should get you Paddy dow.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 06:22:21 PM
32
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 06, 2017, 06:22:43 PM
PSD6  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 06:22:21 PM
32
Won't get Paddy dow at 32 m8
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 06, 2017, 06:23:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 06:22:21 PM
32

31
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 06:27:00 PM
17
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 06, 2017, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelaideCrows/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/SMITH%20Brodie.png)

Available for the highest draft pick offered.

Dustin Martin..

oops not a pick

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 09:33:04 PM
Nobody got mids for sale?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 06, 2017, 09:41:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 09:33:04 PM
Nobody got mids for sale?
If you find someone, do let me know.  :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jay on September 06, 2017, 09:54:36 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 06:27:00 PM
17
15
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 09:56:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelaideCrows/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/SMITH%20Brodie.png)

Available for the highest draft pick offered.

Dustin Martin..

oops not a pick

Official trade confirmation if i ever saw one!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 09:56:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelaideCrows/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/SMITH%20Brodie.png)

Available for the highest draft pick offered.

Dustin Martin..

oops not a pick

Official trade confirmation if i ever saw one!
Approved.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 06, 2017, 09:33:04 PM
Nobody got mids for sale?
You already traded out 2 mids for non-mids, so I'd suggest speaking to Toronto and PNL :p
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on September 06, 2017, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 09:56:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelaideCrows/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/SMITH%20Brodie.png)

Available for the highest draft pick offered.

Dustin Martin..

oops not a pick

Official trade confirmation if i ever saw one!
Approved.

Confirmed.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 06, 2017, 10:04:28 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 06, 2017, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 09:56:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelaideCrows/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/SMITH%20Brodie.png)

Available for the highest draft pick offered.

Dustin Martin..

oops not a pick

Official trade confirmation if i ever saw one!
Approved.

Confirmed.
Passed
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 06, 2017, 10:04:28 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 06, 2017, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 09:56:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelaideCrows/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/SMITH%20Brodie.png)

Available for the highest draft pick offered.

Dustin Martin..

oops not a pick

Official trade confirmation if i ever saw one!
Approved.

Confirmed.
Passed

Paddy dow
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 06, 2017, 11:13:42 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 06, 2017, 10:04:28 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 06, 2017, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2017, 09:56:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 06, 2017, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 06, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AdelaideCrows/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/SMITH%20Brodie.png)

Available for the highest draft pick offered.

Dustin Martin..

oops not a pick

Official trade confirmation if i ever saw one!
Approved.

Confirmed.
Passed

Paddy dow
I love them.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 07, 2017, 09:37:16 AM
Stringer going = Cloke 17.0 is the main man

Going for a pick
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2017, 10:02:55 AM
I'll start the bidding. I'll take him back for Pick 74
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 07, 2017, 10:40:52 AM
I'll bid 73
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2017, 10:45:06 AM
Bidding 72 on behalf of whoever has it.

Edit: You're welcome JB.  :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 07, 2017, 04:19:50 PM
Trade 20
Buenos Aires trade: Taylor Walker + Easton Wood
Beijing trade: Jack Scrimshaw, Sharrod Wellingham + Pick 9





Taylor Walker             
2014: 80
2015: 82.9
2016: 81.4
2017: 86.1

27 years old
Easton Wood             
2014: 68
2015: 85.8
2016: 72.7
2017: 64.2

28 years old
Brodie Smith                   
2014: 93.5
2015: 76.2
2016: 75.3
2017: 82.2

25 years old

47 forwards averaged 80+ in 2017, compared to just 38 defenders. Brodie's 82.2 average ranks him as the 28th highest averaging defender in the comp. 28 / 18 = 1.55. Brodie should start at D2 at least in most sides.

If Tex Walker and Easton Wood can go for effectively Picks 9 and 10 (wouldn't say Scrimshaw has lost any value), then taking age, scoring history and position into account, Brodie has to be worth a top 10 pick too.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2017, 04:42:18 PM
Probably should have just said you wanted a Top 10 pick, and not the highest bid :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2017, 05:00:53 PM
Right. So this website that's been telling me Brodie Smith is 30 yo is completely shower  ::)

Lol, some other "Brodie Smith" comes up when you google search him :P since I don't know his face, I just assumed it was him, and went off the bio age  ::)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 07, 2017, 05:02:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2017, 04:42:18 PM
Probably should have just said you wanted a Top 10 pick, and not the highest bid :P

I want a top 10 pick, but could still settle for a bit less. The bidding system spurs people on to one-up each other, eventually landing a pick inside the top 10. :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on September 07, 2017, 05:06:52 PM
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Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 07, 2017, 05:07:28 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2017, 05:00:53 PM
Right. So this website that's been telling me Brodie Smith is 30 yo is completely shower  ::)

Lol, some other "Brodie Smith" comes up when you google search him :P since I don't know his face, I just assumed it was him, and went off the bio age  ::)

I even posted a reference image to go with him!

Now that you know he is indeed a spring chicken and not some washed up 30 year old, do you want to bid Pick 12? ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 07, 2017, 05:34:08 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 07, 2017, 05:07:28 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 07, 2017, 05:00:53 PM
Right. So this website that's been telling me Brodie Smith is 30 yo is completely shower  ::)

Lol, some other "Brodie Smith" comes up when you google search him :P since I don't know his face, I just assumed it was him, and went off the bio age  ::)

I even posted a reference image to go with him!

Now that you know he is indeed a spring chicken and not some washed up 30 year old, do you want to bid Pick 12? ;)

Tempting! But nah, think I have other positions I'd prefer to boost.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 07, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
What other picks do you have? I might think about offering 7 if I can get a later one back.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2017, 06:33:14 PM
Well it's done

Roughead, Lester and now Vardy all gone

Trade period is going to get boring from here
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2017, 06:42:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2017, 06:33:14 PM
Well it's done

Roughead, Lester and now Vardy all gone

Trade period is going to get boring from here
Nah, this is where it gets even more interesting.

Who's next?!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 07, 2017, 06:43:55 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 07, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
What other picks do you have? I might think about offering 7 if I can get a later one back.

If my current pending trades go through (no reason why they shouldn't) - 4, 63, 68, 81. :P I can always trade for one though, what type of pick range would you need on top?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 07, 2017, 09:13:52 PM
FFS Smith.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 07, 2017, 09:39:03 PM
Um yeah, I'll retract my offer Pick 74

Talk about putting the moz on a guy Ada...

Ouch
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 07, 2017, 11:17:33 PM
Pick 61 for Brodie Smith. ACL or no ACL.  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 08, 2017, 12:13:09 AM
BTB
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2017, 10:24:36 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2017, 12:13:09 AM
BTB

untill next year.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 08, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 06, 2017, 12:18:10 PM
Just 4 more teams to go in the latest vote

Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
PNL Reindeers
Seoul Magpies
We voted within ten minutes of this.

Who's holding up?  :o
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 08, 2017, 10:55:51 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 08, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 06, 2017, 12:18:10 PM
Just 4 more teams to go in the latest vote

Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
PNL Reindeers
Seoul Magpies
We voted within ten minutes of this.

Who's holding up?  :o

PNL.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 08, 2017, 11:02:55 AM
Tired of waiting :P

Both these trades received 3 votes, but if they were to receive 4 votes, I'll be passing them.

Trade 26
Toronto trade: Koby Stevens, Zach Sproule + Pick 13
Buenos Aires trade: Travis Boak + Pick 38

Coaches comments: Some thought Buenos Aires won by too much, some thought Toronto won by too much.
Admin comments: I personally think this is fine, and will give the coaches' the benefit of the doubt.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 30
Dublin trade: Adam Treloar, Nathan Jones, Oscar McInerny, Aidyn Johnson + Pick 37
Dublin recieve: Matt Crouch + Steven May

Moscow trade: Sam Menegola + Steven May
Moscow recieve: Adam Treloar, Aidyn Johnson, Pick 31, Pick 35 + Pick 37

Berlin trade: Jack Steven + Pick 31
Berlin receive: Nathan Jones + Pick 16

New Delhi trade: Matt Crouch, Pick 16 + Pick 35
New Delhi receive: Sam Menegola, Jack Steven + Oscar McInerny

Coaches comments: Felt Pick 35 didn't do anything, and didn't address the larger issues in the trade.
Admin comments: In a world where this gets 4 votes, it means it has passed, with me having the power to overturn it. I don't agree with the coaches enough to overturn this trade, and deep down, I truly think it is a fair trade (speaking as an admin in regards to the other 3 teams in the trade). Menegola does not equal Matt Crouch, and I don't see why he'll be getting forward status.

Verdict: PASS
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 08, 2017, 11:26:31 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2017, 12:13:09 AM
BTM
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2017, 11:30:23 AM
nice work Moscow.

with those 3 picks in the 30s you will probably find a similar talented player as Menegola.

BTM could also be Better Then Menegola.

for the record im now going to call James Parsons BTM.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2017, 11:39:04 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2017, 11:30:23 AM
BTM could also be Better Then Menegola.

Can't be better than the best player in the AFL, sorry mate
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2017, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2017, 11:39:04 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 08, 2017, 11:30:23 AM
BTM could also be Better Then Menegola.

Can't be better than the best player in the VFL, sorry mate

I dont know Anthony Miles might give him a run for his money.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 08, 2017, 12:10:41 PM
I too like playing for second.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 08, 2017, 12:47:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/16y8PSt.png)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 08, 2017, 12:53:00 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 08, 2017, 12:47:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/16y8PSt.png)

Keen to give Rico shower when Menegola gets fwd :P He still doesn't buy it!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 08, 2017, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2017, 12:53:00 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 08, 2017, 12:47:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/16y8PSt.png)

Keen to give Rico shower when Menegola gets fwd :P He still doesn't buy it!
Yeh well majority of other coaches don't think so, so we'll see

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2017, 04:46:04 PM
Next year, I'm just going to mentally block Dublin and try to beat the other 16 teams
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 08, 2017, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 08, 2017, 04:46:04 PM
Next year, I'm just going to mentally block Dublin and try to beat the other 16 teams

I wish i was as confident in my team as you are.

I think im weaker then 2015 still.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 08, 2017, 04:53:37 PM
Meh they aren't that scary
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 08, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 08, 2017, 04:53:37 PM
Meh they aren't that scary
Kelivefield and friends are the ones who scare me!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 08, 2017, 05:09:56 PM
Ada will have the 15 highest scoring players by the end of the trade period. Except Danger, he's not for sale.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2017, 10:47:40 AM
Nick Vlastuin break out coming? 96ave since coming back from injury earlier in the year

Menegola on the other hand... trade us Crouch back please
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 09, 2017, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2017, 10:47:40 AM
Nick Vlastuin break out coming? 96ave since coming back from injury earlier in the year

Menegola on the other hand... trade us Crouch back please
Well Moscow traded you both so I think we can call it even.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2017, 11:35:37 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 09, 2017, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2017, 10:47:40 AM
Nick Vlastuin break out coming? 96ave since coming back from injury earlier in the year

Menegola on the other hand... trade us Crouch back please
Well Moscow traded you both so I think we can call it even.
You also so gave us Zac Clarke so yeh we're probably ahead :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 09, 2017, 11:40:52 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2017, 11:35:37 AM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 09, 2017, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2017, 10:47:40 AM
Nick Vlastuin break out coming? 96ave since coming back from injury earlier in the year

Menegola on the other hand... trade us Crouch back please
Well Moscow traded you both so I think we can call it even.
You also so gave us Zac Clarke so yeh we're probably ahead :P
We traded him for Belly though so that's a win.  ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2017, 11:47:28 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2017, 10:47:40 AM
Nick Vlastuin break out coming? 96ave since coming back from injury earlier in the year

Menegola on the other hand... trade us Crouch back please

I really think you'll regret trading Crouch  :'(

But don't worry, at least Menegola will get fwd  ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 09, 2017, 11:59:40 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2017, 11:47:28 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 09, 2017, 10:47:40 AM
Nick Vlastuin break out coming? 96ave since coming back from injury earlier in the year

Menegola on the other hand... trade us Crouch back please

I really think you'll regret trading Crouch  :'(

But don't worry, at least Menegola will get fwd  ;D
No Regerts
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 09, 2017, 05:24:03 PM
I have a 24 year old 97 ave forward about to be traded. Get offers in now.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 09, 2017, 06:24:38 PM
Gary Ablett going to be traded soon...

:( :'( :-[
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 09, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 09, 2017, 10:26:17 PM
Been getting some Dunstan interest of late, thinking about trading him, so yeah, get your offers in :) mids or forwards are preferred, age is like, YOLO, you know?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2017, 02:42:44 AM
Jezza Cameron + a good kid could be on the table for a 100+ mid

Or Cameron + a combo of kids for an even better mid.

Kids as in Mullett, Balic, McCartin (maybe), Morrison, Knight, Cockatoo (maybe), NRobbo, etc.
Depending on mid on offer of course
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 10, 2017, 12:08:49 PM
Just need trade votes from these cool cats  8)

Beijing Thunder
Cairo Sands
London Royals
Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
PNL Reindeers
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 10, 2017, 05:18:48 PM
Timmy Taranto could be gone by tonight, so if you're still interested get your offers in!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jay on September 10, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 10, 2017, 05:05:18 PM
Buenos Aires trade: Picks 19 + 20
Christchurch trade: Picks 21 + 23 + 25
Not sure if this one or the Jed Anderson trade is dumber, meow :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 10, 2017, 05:41:19 PM
Just 3 more coaches to go...

but no trades have received a neg, so all pass!

Those coaches are still required to vote though.

Trade 31
Cape Town trade: Kayne Turner + Pick 59
Tokyo trade: Dylan Clarke + Pick 39

Trade 32
Mexico City trade: Kade Simpson, Brandon White, Pick 63, + Pick 81 
Toronto trade: Nathan Hrovat, Pick 24 + Pick 38 

Trade 33
New York trade: James Harmes, Mitch Hannan, Kayle Kirby, Pick 26 + Pick 33
Mexico trade: Heath Shaw, Eddie Betts + Pick 45

Trade 34
Cairo trade: Rupert Wills
Christchurch trade: Daniel McKenzie + Pick 44

Trade 35
New York trade: Hayden Ballantyne + Mitch W Brown
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 74

Trade 36
Christchurch trade: Nathan Vardy, Pick 41 + Rookie Pick 43 
Tokyo trade: Pick 21


Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 10, 2017, 05:53:12 PM
Quote from: Jay on September 10, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 10, 2017, 05:05:18 PM
Buenos Aires trade: Picks 19 + 20
Christchurch trade: Picks 21 + 23 + 25
Not sure if this one or the Jed Anderson trade is dumber, meow :P

Please. What would Pacific know about trading?!


Last year, almost an identical trade...

Buenos Aires trade: Picks 12 + 13
Christchurch trade: Picks 14 + 16 + 18

Enabled me to get GUNS English and Cumming while BA got nobodies Perryman, Simpkin and Berry.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jay on September 10, 2017, 06:17:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 10, 2017, 05:53:12 PM
Quote from: Jay on September 10, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 10, 2017, 05:05:18 PM
Buenos Aires trade: Picks 19 + 20
Christchurch trade: Picks 21 + 23 + 25
Not sure if this one or the Jed Anderson trade is dumber, meow :P

Please. What would Pacific know about trading?!


Last year, almost an identical trade...

Buenos Aires trade: Picks 12 + 13
Christchurch trade: Picks 14 + 16 + 18

Enabled me to get GUNS English and Cumming while BA got nobodies Perryman, Simpkin and Berry.
Maybe a bit more of our trading restraint and you might've made finals in one of the last two seasons! ;)

Or you could have probably got those same GUNS at your original picks and got another GUN at pick 18. In the AFL, anything above a 200 point difference in draft points is unlikely to be accepted by the league. This trade here is a 556 point loss for you, effectively giving the equivalent of pick 33 away for nothing - its not quite as bad as last years but will absolutely be negging again.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 10, 2017, 06:27:23 PM
Quote from: Jay on September 10, 2017, 06:17:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 10, 2017, 05:53:12 PM
Quote from: Jay on September 10, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 10, 2017, 05:05:18 PM
Buenos Aires trade: Picks 19 + 20
Christchurch trade: Picks 21 + 23 + 25
Not sure if this one or the Jed Anderson trade is dumber, meow :P

Please. What would Pacific know about trading?!


Last year, almost an identical trade...

Buenos Aires trade: Picks 12 + 13
Christchurch trade: Picks 14 + 16 + 18

Enabled me to get GUNS English and Cumming while BA got nobodies Perryman, Simpkin and Berry.
Maybe a bit more of our trading restraint and you might've made finals in one of the last two seasons! ;)

Or you could have probably got those same GUNS at your original picks and got another GUN at pick 18. In the AFL, anything above a 200 point difference in draft points is unlikely to be accepted by the league. This trade here is a 556 point loss for you, effectively giving the equivalent of pick 33 away for nothing - its not quite as bad as last years but will absolutely be negging again.
No chance they would've gotten English, but possibly Cumming. They used English to grab 6 though, so not too bad.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 10, 2017, 06:43:53 PM
So not receiving pick 33 is going to throw the competition out of whack and therefore has to be blocked? Righto.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 11, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
All coaches have now voted and officially, the most recent lot of trades received no votes.

Quote from: Purple 77 on September 09, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 11, 2017, 10:06:11 AM
I'll send another vote out once we get another 3 or 4 trades.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 11, 2017, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: meow meow on September 10, 2017, 06:43:53 PM
So not receiving pick 33 is going to throw the competition out of whack and therefore has to be blocked? Righto.

its that type of thinking that is making bad trades pass and good trades struggle to get through.

Each trade should be looked at on its merit if it a small deal but one side is beating the other by a fair margin it should be rejected. Likewise is its a monster trade and one side if slightly winning then it should pass even though the wider impact is the big trade has a bigger implication then the small trade.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 11, 2017, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 11, 2017, 10:06:11 AM
I'll send another vote out once we get another 3 or 4 trades.

So I'll expect this in about 2 weeks time then ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2017, 01:30:27 PM
I had faith in this guy after watching the season of The Recruit, and after a slow start his recent form has been very good

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-12/mcgovernlike-performance-could-save-the-recruit

NDT might want him for the Brisbane set, but I reckon we might hold him and elevate him to our senior list :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 12, 2017, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2017, 01:30:27 PM
I had faith in this guy after watching the season of The Recruit, and after a slow start his recent form has been very good

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-12/mcgovernlike-performance-could-save-the-recruit

NDT might want him for the Brisbane set, but I reckon we might hold him and elevate him to our senior list :)

Brisbane with 5 next #1 rucks next year
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 12, 2017, 02:18:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 12, 2017, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2017, 01:30:27 PM
I had faith in this guy after watching the season of The Recruit, and after a slow start his recent form has been very good

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-12/mcgovernlike-performance-could-save-the-recruit

NDT might want him for the Brisbane set, but I reckon we might hold him and elevate him to our senior list :)

Brisbane with 5 next #1 rucks next year

Eagles has been playing in defense thats why he might stay on the list.

He got pushed out of the ruck as McInnerny is just soo good.

Making a big call that could look foolish. In a few years McInnerny will be more valuable then Menegola.



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on September 12, 2017, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 12, 2017, 02:18:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 12, 2017, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2017, 01:30:27 PM
I had faith in this guy after watching the season of The Recruit, and after a slow start his recent form has been very good

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-12/mcgovernlike-performance-could-save-the-recruit

NDT might want him for the Brisbane set, but I reckon we might hold him and elevate him to our senior list :)

Brisbane with 5 next #1 rucks next year

Eagles has been playing in defense thats why he might stay on the list.

He got pushed out of the ruck as McInnerny is just soo good.

Making a big call that could look foolish. In a few years McInnerny will be more valuable then Menegola.
Eagles in some peoples eyes was best on ground in NEAFL Final.  He had 4 intercept marks in final quarter which helped Lions to the premiership.

Re-invented himself as a defender mid season and has really turned corner.  Midway through season was doubtful if he would make it but has put in the work and shone in the last 2 games. He captained the NEAFL side in the Prelim final as well.

He has fitted in well at the club and we await to see whether Lions will give him another contract. Should be rookie listed again as a minimum if not to senior list. Could be the strong body we need to assist Andrews and co.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 12, 2017, 03:32:09 PM
Alrighty then, so we'll value him as a 90+ def for now, and could be a rare DEF/RUC

Happy to do a straight swap for a 100+ mid
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 12, 2017, 09:00:35 PM
Yes, Spencer is delisted.

No, I won't be trading him (at least until he finds a new club).

Like seagulls after a chip :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 12, 2017, 09:03:43 PM
Told you that you're going to regret knocking back Filopovic when I tried to give him to you for an insignificant amount. The Dees have just signaled their intent to invest in him. Most likely at the expense of Gawn as early as next year after a ripping preseason.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 12, 2017, 09:34:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 12, 2017, 09:03:43 PM
Told you that you're going to regret knocking back Filopovic when I tried to give him to you for an insignificant amount. The Dees have just signaled their intent to invest in him. Most likely at the expense of Gawn as early as next year after a ripping preseason.

Where is this intent you speak of :P don't tell me you dug into the MFC website, and found this tiny part of the injury summary?

QuoteLochie Filipovic: Lochie did some running on the AlterG [Anti-Gravity] Treadmill [last Friday morning] at about 90 per cent. He’s another week or so from running outside, but things are tracking well with his hip. He’s looking to have a big pre-season.

Mitch King is soooo much better off as the number 1 Casey ruck now  8) was doing pretty well too towards the end of the year
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2017, 11:08:43 AM
Very nice trade that 3 way

Nicely balanced and everyone gets what they need  :)

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 13, 2017, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2017, 11:08:43 AM
Very nice trade that 3 way

Nicely balanced and everyone gets what they need  :)
RD internally: A C T I V I T Y!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 13, 2017, 11:40:23 AM
Quote from: Nige on September 13, 2017, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2017, 11:08:43 AM
Very nice trade that 3 way

Nicely balanced and everyone gets what they need  :)
RD internally: A C T I V I T Y!


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Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2017, 12:43:38 PM
Hahaha  ;D

On a separate note, I don't want to kick up a fuss, but I was talking to Levi about Ebert, and hadn't heard back since my last PM to him a few days ago, and now he has traded him to Toronto  ::)

We obviously wouldn't have matched N4, but again, is it that hard to just let people know that you have been in discussions with before just going ahead elsewhere?

I'm not upset, just disappointed
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2017, 01:08:17 PM
It's very difficult. Took me forever to get the Lester trade done since I had to get back to about 15 teams then wait to see if they're going to withdraw or counter. That's if they even replied. Even if they replied it didn't mean anything until they checked with their co-coach. And so on.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2017, 01:21:34 PM
I've done 9 trades and the only change to my best XV (apart from losing Mitchell and Montagna) is Gibbs out, Scully in. Lost 10-15 points by trading my highest scorer and captain option. Torp was right, I'm a spud.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 13, 2017, 02:04:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2017, 01:08:17 PM
It's very difficult. Took me forever to get the Lester trade done since I had to get back to about 15 teams then wait to see if they're going to withdraw or counter. That's if they even replied. Even if they replied it didn't mean anything until they checked with their co-coach. And so on.

Yes, but you still contacted those involved. Whether they replied or not is irrelevant because you gave them notice, which is all I was asking for, and I thought was expected/standard practice around here

Nevermind, we move on
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 13, 2017, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2017, 01:21:34 PM
I've done 9 trades and the only change to my best XV (apart from losing Mitchell and Montagna) is Gibbs out, Scully in. Lost 10-15 points by trading my highest scorer and captain option. Torp was right, I'm a spud.
compo
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 14, 2017, 12:58:23 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 04, 2017, 04:49:55 PM
Cloke
PDavis
Krakouer
SiWhite
Grey
Sumner
BJack

Want to take a punt on any of these guys? Hit me up with picks, pick upgrades, whateva

Current Picks: 53, 71, 89
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jay on September 14, 2017, 07:31:52 PM
If you're interested in any of the following guys we'll take pick(s)/upgrades.

Rischitelli
Otten
Howlett,
Suban,
Lamb
Cheney,
de Boer
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 15, 2017, 12:24:24 AM
Mitch Robinson + Matthew Wright both will be moved. 2 forwards that would be of assistance to every team. Hit me up. I'm after mids and picks.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 15, 2017, 12:28:44 PM
Just these teams yet to submit their vote

London Royals
Pacific Islanders
PNL Reindeers
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2017, 01:36:33 PM
Alright, lets get things going

Who wants a starting defender? We are putting Robbie Tarrant and Lachie Henderson on the table, both 80 averaging defenders or there about, which is D2-D4 depending on your team

And all we want is picks :)

Here's the deal though: Due to list size, we need a 3 or 2 for 1 offer so you need to put up a few picks and one of them is yours

Not interested in picks beyond 50 or so and ideally want a first rounder, but will consider if multiple picks within 40 are offered etc
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 15, 2017, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2017, 01:36:33 PM
both 80 averaging defenders or there about, which is D2-D4 depending on your team
Or D6 at NDT because we're fully sik m8
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2017, 02:26:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 15, 2017, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2017, 01:36:33 PM
both 80 averaging defenders or there about, which is D2-D4 depending on your team
Or D6 at NDT because we're fully sik m8

Haha  ;D

They might squeeze into D4 now actually, seeing as you moved Vlas on and HH is a potato ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 15, 2017, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2017, 02:26:29 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 15, 2017, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2017, 01:36:33 PM
both 80 averaging defenders or there about, which is D2-D4 depending on your team
Or D6 at NDT because we're fully sik m8

Haha  ;D

They might squeeze into D4 now actually, seeing as you moved Vlas on and HH is a potato ;)
Nahuh, not even counting spudHartlett

Lloyd Houli Howe Rich all 90+
And Mullett at 80
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 15, 2017, 09:26:00 PM
What wouId you like back for Menegola, New Delhi?

#MeneGOAT
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 15, 2017, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 15, 2017, 09:26:00 PM
What wouId you like back for Menegola, New Delhi?

#MeneGOAT
Making up for his massive 57 from last week
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 10:18:52 AM
2 teams to go.

There is no trade with 0 votes, but there is one trade with just 1 vote, meaning it can only be auto-passed from here:

Trade 40
Rio de Janeiro trade: Aaron Hall
Rio de Janeiro receive: Jeremy Cameron

New Delhi trade: Jeremy Cameron, Nick Vlastuin + Phil Davis
New Delhi receive: Dan Hannebery + Timothy Broomhead

Cairo trade: Dan Hannebery + Timothy Broomhead
Cairo receive: Aaron Hall, Nick Vlastuin + Phil Davis
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 16, 2017, 11:02:16 AM
Wowee.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 11:30:06 AM
1 team to go, so we can officially announce these results...

These trades have 2 votes each, so will auto-pass


Trade 41
Toronto trade: Pick 4
Rio de Janeiro trade: Brad Ebert

Trade 42
Mexico City trade: Trent Cotchin, Lachie Plowman, Pick 38 + Pick 55
Tokyo trade: Anthony Miles, Jarryd Blair, Pick 2 + Pick 57
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 16, 2017, 12:04:09 PM
Alright, so we've now got a quite a few forwards and defenders.

Most are pretty much locked in their best 22 or are good potential youngsters.

Happy to package for mids, picks or player upgrades.

Naturally the better players will cost more and are less likely to move.

Team list is up to date on the last page of our team thread. PM myself and/or ML on here, or myself on Discord.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2017, 12:05:38 PM
Get in line Nige

Mids are near extinct in these parts  :-[
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 16, 2017, 12:23:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2017, 12:05:38 PM
Get in line Nige

Mids are near extinct in these parts  :-[
Hahaha, I'm well aware.

But you don't know if you ask.  :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on September 16, 2017, 12:27:05 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 16, 2017, 12:23:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2017, 12:05:38 PM
Get in line Nige

Mids are near extinct in these parts  :-[
Hahaha, I'm well aware.

But you don't know if you ask.  :P

Wiser words never spoken
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 16, 2017, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: iZander on September 16, 2017, 12:27:05 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 16, 2017, 12:23:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 16, 2017, 12:05:38 PM
Get in line Nige

Mids are near extinct in these parts  :-[
Hahaha, I'm well aware.

But you don't know if you ask.  :P

Wiser words never spoken
I stand by this, missing word and all.  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jay on September 16, 2017, 12:55:46 PM
Best offer for Andy Otten at the moment is a pick in the 50's. He averaged 73 over 16 games this year, a lock to get DEF/FWD DPP and is only 28 years old.

Might only take a pick in the 40s for him to be yours!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on September 16, 2017, 01:41:30 PM
Beijing players available:
-Josh Jenkins (F) - pure forward, went 85 last year and 84 without his injury game vs Hawthorn this year.
-Allen Christensen (F) - injury prone but he's a great scorer when fit so won't give him away for chips.
-Kane Lambert (M/F) - 87 average, should be DPP.

Plus a bunch of depth players if you like them can always enquire :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 01:44:01 PM
Mids?!

Welp, I've been fielding a lot of interest for Libba & Dunstan over the last couple of weeks, so come to me if you want some midz
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 16, 2017, 02:21:23 PM
LDU, Cerra, Rayner, Paddy dow...

Higgins will be the best of the bunch...

That's only 5. Still some quality mids available at picks 6 and 7 but if you'd prefer to try to grab them next year after they've played a season and cost more that's cool.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 16, 2017, 02:44:42 PM
Matthew Wright on the table still.

Received a decent offer for Robbo so get in quick.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 16, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 16, 2017, 02:21:23 PM
LDU, Cerra, Rayner, Paddy dow...

Higgins will be the best of the bunch...

That's only 5. Still some quality mids available at picks 6 and 7 but if you'd prefer to try to grab them next year after they've played a season and cost more that's cool.

The draft is all kpp and rucks.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Boomz on September 16, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Taking offers on these guys now. Looking for 75+ forwards or lower average youngsters. Young def/mids is the second priority.

Jack Redden, Aaron Young, Matt Dea, Dale Thomas, Harry Cunningham, Sam Lloyd, Billy Stretch, Patrick Ambrose, Aidan Corr, Jackson Merrett, Tom Ruggles, Adam Kennedy, Connor Menadue, Steven Morris, Fraser McInnes, Liam Dawson, Mackenzie Willis, Timothy Smith, Alex Morgan, Patrick Kerr, Ryan Abbott, Timm House, Tristan Tweedie.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 10:12:55 PM
All votes are in!

Trade 37 - 4 votes
Dublin trade: James Parsons, Todd Marshall, Pick 73 + Pick 91
Rio de Janeiro trade: Mason Wood
Coaches comments: Felt Dublin was effectively giving up nothing of substance for a player with proven potential
Admin comments: I tend to agree with the coaches here. In a coaching role, I'd neg it. Is it enough to overturn? A history of injuries to Wood saves this trade. Not enough to overturn decision, and that goes with the scenario where it received 6 votes.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 38 - 8 votes
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 19 + Pick 20
Christchurch trade: Pick 21, Pick 23 + Pick 25
Coaches comments: Felt the downgrade in Picks 19 & 20 was not worth Pick 25 
Admin comments: Our first auto-neg of the year!
Verdict: REJECTED

Trade 39 - 4 votes
Moscow trade: Tim Taranto, Tom Bellchambers, Eric Hipwood + Pick 42
Rio de Janeiro: Sam Jacobs, Jack Watts, Shaun Grigg + Liam Jones
Coaches comments: Common theme felt that given Jacobs' history, that he was worth Bellchambers + Hipwood, which left Taranto + 42 compared to Watts, Grigg and Jones. As a result, felt Moscow was winning by too much.
Admin comments: My initial reaction was that Moscow was winning by too much. But a closer look at the trade reveals that there isn't as a big of an imbalance as I thought. Taranto & Hipwood are excellent youth, and Rio are assuming their future payoffs in this trade, which is common practice really. Not enough to overturn the decision from pass to neg, and vice versa FWIW
Verdict: PASS

Trade 40 - JUAN vote
Rio de Janeiro trade: Aaron Hall
Rio de Janeiro receive: Jeremy Cameron

New Delhi trade: Jeremy Cameron, Nick Vlastuin + Phil Davis
New Delhi receive: Dan Hannebery + Timothy Broomhead

Cairo trade: Dan Hannebery + Timothy Broomhead
Cairo receive: Aaron Hall, Nick Vlastuin + Phil Davis
Coaches comments: Felt NDT was winning by too much
Admin comments: I actually really like this trade.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 41 - 2 votes
Toronto trade: Pick 4
Rio de Janeiro trade: Brad Ebert
Coaches comments: Felt Ebert was worth more than Pick 4
Admin comments: Yes, but his name is Brad Ebert. Who trusts a name like that? Not your ordinary 100 averaging mid if you ask me :P
Verdict: PASS

Trade 42 - 2 votes
Mexico City trade: Trent Cotchin, Lachie Plowman, Pick 38 + Pick 55
Tokyo trade: Anthony Miles, Jarryd Blair, Pick 2 + Pick 57
Coaches comments: Coaches were divided as to who was winning more.
Admin comments: Looks good to me
Verdict: PASS
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 11, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 09, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Vinny on September 17, 2017, 12:58:40 AM
Lmao fail to see how the picks trade with Meow gets rejected given how insignificant it is. Thought we'd only neg trades that would genuinely skew the competition.

It's pretty simple - we move down a few spots in the draft but gain a pick in doing so. Meow wants someone specific he doesn't think will be there at his old pick so he moves up, loses a pick to do so.

Especially considering they are picks in the 20s in a shallow draft...

If you thought it was a little one-sided okay then, but enough to neg?

Considering some of the rubbish that gets through, unreal that it got 8 votes. Thank you to those 8 people that have just saved WXV from a complete imbalance. You did it!

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 17, 2017, 11:04:22 AM
Stop.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 18, 2017, 12:45:05 AM
Robinson+Wright being sold tomorrow.

Get offers in.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2017, 08:16:17 PM
Mark Stevens‏ @Stevo7AFL 
More
Been some confusion/debate about  Travis Cloke. His camp 100 per cent certain he will play next year, see out contract. @7NewsMelbourne

Travis "Stringer of 2015 except will average more" Cloke 8.0
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2017, 08:27:06 PM
Yeah he'll play, in the VFL  :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2017, 08:33:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 18, 2017, 08:27:06 PM
Yeah he'll play, in the VFL  :P
RD pls. Only played 3 VFL games this year, will be less with Stringer gone
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jay on September 19, 2017, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 19, 2017, 02:05:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 19, 2017, 01:24:31 PM
Christchurch trade: Jake Lever
Berlin trade: Tom Liberatore

Confirmed. This is a trade out of premature bias more than anything.

Seriously though, Libba's historical ceiling made trading him such a nervous move, but I like the look of Lever and feel he'll pair up nicely with ZJones in my defence going into the future.
You're a sick man, Purps :'(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 19, 2017, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Jay on September 19, 2017, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 19, 2017, 02:05:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 19, 2017, 01:24:31 PM
Christchurch trade: Jake Lever
Berlin trade: Tom Liberatore

Confirmed. This is a trade out of premature bias more than anything.

Seriously though, Libba's historical ceiling made trading him such a nervous move, but I like the look of Lever and feel he'll pair up nicely with ZJones in my defence going into the future.
You're a sick man, Purps :'(

:-X :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2017, 03:12:44 PM
Severe lack of confabulation here

Severe lack
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 19, 2017, 03:16:49 PM
Rule idea. Every year you've got to trade 5 of your 15 best scorers by average. Unless one retires, that counts as a movement.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 19, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 19, 2017, 03:16:49 PM
Rule idea. Every year you've got to trade 5 of your 15 best scorers by average. Unless one retires, that counts as a movement.

whats the penalty if you dont as most coaches who turn over that many starters make their team worse. So its probably worth it for coaches to not do that.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2017, 03:35:40 PM
In the words of Trent from Punchy...

"Just relax ayy"

Forcing people to trade their starters is the quickest way to alienate coaches from one another and over-complicate a comp that simply doesn't need it.

It's not crucial to have 5 trades a day!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 19, 2017, 04:20:20 PM
Rule idea. Every year you've got to trade every player on your list except one.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: DazBurg on September 19, 2017, 04:21:17 PM
hahah why do i keep putting a E in Ricky for hendo?, hahah
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2017, 05:16:38 PM
3 teams still to vote

Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars

But we can auto-pass these trades, which have so far received no votes:

Trade 48
Christchurch trade: Jake Lever
Berlin trade: Tom Liberatore

Trade 49
PNL trade: Ricky Henderson + Pick 65
Cairo trade: Jack Lonie, Hugh Goddard + Phil Davis
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2017, 06:42:55 PM
2 teams to vote

These trades have received one vote so far, but will auto-pass

Trade 43
Mexico City trade: Mark Baguley + Pick 33
Rio de Janeiro trade: Bernie Vince + Jacob Townsend

Trade 45
Christchurch trade: Will Hoskin-Elliott
Tokyo trade: Jack Redden

Trade 46
Moscow trade: Jarman Impey + Jayden Short
Tokyo trade: Billy Stretch 

Trade 47
Berlin trade: Tom Cole, Wayne Milera, Robbie Fox, Corey Wagner + Pick 49 
Berlin receive: Liam Picken + Matthew Wright

Toronto trade: Liam Picken, Billy Hartung, Brendon Ah Chee + Sam J Reid
Toronto receive: Mitch Robinson, Tom Cole + Pick 49

Rio de Janeiro trade: Mitch Robinson + Matthew Wright
Rio de Janeiro receive: Billy Hartung, Wayne Milera, Brendon Ah Chee, Robbie Fox, Corey Wagner + Sam J Reid
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 20, 2017, 06:50:48 PM
I see one trade missing :P

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 20, 2017, 07:21:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 19, 2017, 04:20:20 PM
Rule idea. Every year you've got to trade every player on your list except one.
Cloke would be the one that would stay

Actually maybe Simon White
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2017, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 20, 2017, 07:21:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 19, 2017, 04:20:20 PM
Rule idea. Every year you've got to trade every player on your list except one.
Cloke would be the one that would stay

Actually maybe Simon White

No maybes about it

And LMAO how do some of those trades even get a single vote?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 20, 2017, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2017, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 20, 2017, 07:21:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 19, 2017, 04:20:20 PM
Rule idea. Every year you've got to trade every player on your list except one.
Cloke would be the one that would stay

Actually maybe Simon White

No maybes about it

And LMAO how do some of those trades even get a single vote?
Might need to ask Jay about that
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jay on September 20, 2017, 08:09:38 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 20, 2017, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2017, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 20, 2017, 07:21:17 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 19, 2017, 04:20:20 PM
Rule idea. Every year you've got to trade every player on your list except one.
Cloke would be the one that would stay

Actually maybe Simon White

No maybes about it

And LMAO how do some of those trades even get a single vote?
Might need to ask Jay about that
Quote from: Jay on September 20, 2017, 07:19:14 PM
All pass
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2017, 08:18:42 PM
And... that means all trades pass!

Rio still required to vote though
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2017, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 11, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 09, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2017, 08:21:06 PM
Enjoy this brief time of having that thread completely up to date, with no pending trades  :-X
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 20, 2017, 08:49:19 PM
How is such an insignificant pick such as rookie 1 the difference between a pass and fail lol
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Vinny on September 20, 2017, 09:05:41 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 20, 2017, 08:49:19 PM
How is such an insignificant pick such as rookie 1 the difference between a pass and fail lol
Oh yep true, we'll add in Luke Parker.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 20, 2017, 09:35:48 PM
LeCras! Now that's a pleasant surprise :D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 20, 2017, 10:47:45 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 20, 2017, 08:49:19 PM
How is such an insignificant pick such as rookie 1 the difference between a pass and fail lol

I honestly don't understand how people vote around here when shower like this happens.

Trade failed because BA needed to add something around the value of 33 for it to be even.

Rookie 1 on the table for a pick. Should expect something around 33 yeah?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2017, 10:49:04 PM
44 is the best we can do.

Post it up, I'm sure it'll pass.  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 20, 2017, 11:05:09 PM
Confirmed
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 21, 2017, 01:57:33 PM
Might be easier to post this here rather than hitting up ppl individually

Dan Hannebery could be moved for something involving the following boys

Only 26 years old and before this year had gone 113 and 113. So a huge captain option

Durable as hell as well. With the exception to 2014 he has played 21, 22, 22, 21, 22, 22, 19 and 7(his debut year)



Docherty
JKelly
BTB Crouch
Sloane
Merrett
Fyfe
TAdams
Macrae
Bont
Treloar
Beams
Ward
Heppell
Parker
Cripps
Rockliff

Hit me up if keen to discuss
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 21, 2017, 02:02:32 PM
Racist
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 21, 2017, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 21, 2017, 01:57:33 PM
Might be easier to post this here rather than hitting up ppl individually

Dan Hannebery could be moved for something involving the following boys

Only 26 years old and before this year had gone 113 and 113. So a huge captain option

Durable as hell as well. With the exception to 2014 he has played 21, 22, 22, 21, 22, 22, 19 and 7(his debut year)



Docherty
JKelly
BTB Crouch
Sloane
Merrett
Fyfe
TAdams
Macrae
Bont
Treloar
Beams
Ward
Heppell
Parker
Cripps
Rockliff

Hit me up if keen to discuss

(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/0df628874e214c29eebb6fd9d31d01cc?width=650)
You just made the list
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
LOL, that was quite good Holz!  ;D

What are you adding on top of Hanners for any of those guys Rico? :P

EDIT: Was better before the edit Holz

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 02:26:36 PM
Sexist
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
What are you adding on top of Hanners for any of those guys Rico? :P

We spent some time trying to find an NY player that was any good, but alas, we couldn't :P No wonder you're so keen to see people trading!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 21, 2017, 03:18:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
What are you adding on top of Hanners for any of those guys Rico? :P
Some we give, some they give, some pretty even. Depends who
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 03:20:58 PM
I'll give you pick 43 for Heartless.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 21, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 03:20:58 PM
I'll give you pick 43 for Heartless.
Would get negged, he's not even worth that
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
What are you adding on top of Hanners for any of those guys Rico? :P

We spent some time trying to find an NY player that was any good, but alas, we couldn't :P No wonder you're so keen to see people trading!

I'd take Heeney and Jelwood over half of that list you listed :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 03:29:39 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 21, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 03:20:58 PM
I'll give you pick 43 for Heartless.
Would get negged, he's not even worth that

Let's find out.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 03:44:43 PM
Pick 32 for Heartless
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
What are you adding on top of Hanners for any of those guys Rico? :P

We spent some time trying to find an NY player that was any good, but alas, we couldn't :P No wonder you're so keen to see people trading!

I'd take Heeney and Jelwood over half of that list you listed :P

Jelwood nearly 30, plus he's gonna lose 15ppg when the AFL officially outlaws quacking.

As for Heeney? Never heard of her. Does she play AFLW or AFL?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 21, 2017, 03:50:12 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
LOL, that was quite good Holz!  ;D

What are you adding on top of Hanners for any of those guys Rico? :P

EDIT: Was better before the edit Holz

I brought back the original.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 03:56:19 PM
Hunter Clark has turned himself into a contested ball winning inside midfield beast in the second half of the season and he's likely to be available at pick 7. Drawing comparisons to Treloar and Taylor Adams.

#7 available, preferably for a defender or an upgrade (either points or age)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 21, 2017, 03:59:25 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 03:56:19 PM
Hunter Clark has turned himself into a contested ball winning inside midfield beast in the second half of the season and he's likely to be available at pick 7. Drawing comparisons to Treloar and Taylor Adams.

#7 available, preferably for a defender or an upgrade (either points or age)

Weaknesses:
Often turns over the ball by foot when pressured.


Yep i see the link. Hopefully he can rack up 40 touches a game so he can average 100 SC.





Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 04:03:14 PM
Treloar is still pretty good at SC!

HC with a contested possession rate of 49% for the season while averaging over 27 touches per game. 6 tackles too. And a goal.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
What are you adding on top of Hanners for any of those guys Rico? :P

We spent some time trying to find an NY player that was any good, but alas, we couldn't :P No wonder you're so keen to see people trading!

I'd take Heeney and Jelwood over half of that list you listed :P

Jelwood nearly 30, plus he's gonna lose 15ppg when the AFL officially outlaws quacking.

As for Heeney? Never heard of her. Does she play AFLW or AFL?

He can lose 15ppg and still be better than Heppell

Yeah not many know about Heeney, but he'll be taking over your Hanners very soon ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 21, 2017, 04:08:42 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 04:03:14 PM
Treloar is still pretty good at SC!

HC with a contested possession rate of 49% for the season while averaging over 27 touches per game. 6 tackles too. And a goal.

Kids a gun, this butcher talk will disappear soon. I was just poking fun at him now he isnt a Dubliner.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
What are you adding on top of Hanners for any of those guys Rico? :P

We spent some time trying to find an NY player that was any good, but alas, we couldn't :P No wonder you're so keen to see people trading!

I'd take Heeney and Jelwood over half of that list you listed :P

Jelwood nearly 30, plus he's gonna lose 15ppg when the AFL officially outlaws quacking.

As for Heeney? Never heard of her. Does she play AFLW or AFL?

He can lose 15ppg and still be better than Heppell

Yeah not many know about Heeney, but he'll be taking over your Hanners very soon ;)

I'd make a cash bet with you that Heppell with a +15.5 start on Jelwood will beat him by season average in 2018.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
What are you adding on top of Hanners for any of those guys Rico? :P

We spent some time trying to find an NY player that was any good, but alas, we couldn't :P No wonder you're so keen to see people trading!

I'd take Heeney and Jelwood over half of that list you listed :P

Jelwood nearly 30, plus he's gonna lose 15ppg when the AFL officially outlaws quacking.

As for Heeney? Never heard of her. Does she play AFLW or AFL?

He can lose 15ppg and still be better than Heppell

Yeah not many know about Heeney, but he'll be taking over your Hanners very soon ;)

I'd make a cash bet with you that Heppell with a +15.5 start on Jelwood will beat him by season average in 2018.

LOL ele, relax, of course he should get within 15 - my point was that Hepp is a 100-105 mid and not elite like most of the rest on your wishlist for Hanners, and that Jelwood and Heeney are miles ahead of him
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
What are you adding on top of Hanners for any of those guys Rico? :P

We spent some time trying to find an NY player that was any good, but alas, we couldn't :P No wonder you're so keen to see people trading!

I'd take Heeney and Jelwood over half of that list you listed :P

Jelwood nearly 30, plus he's gonna lose 15ppg when the AFL officially outlaws quacking.

As for Heeney? Never heard of her. Does she play AFLW or AFL?

He can lose 15ppg and still be better than Heppell

Yeah not many know about Heeney, but he'll be taking over your Hanners very soon ;)

I'd make a cash bet with you that Heppell with a +15.5 start on Jelwood will beat him by season average in 2018.

LOL ele, relax, of course he should get within 15 - my point was that Hepp is a 100-105 mid and not elite like most of the rest on your wishlist for Hanners, and that Jelwood and Heeney are miles ahead of him

But you still won't take the handicap? Fine, doesn't show much faith in the point you're trying to push!

Meh, I'm just bored. But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 05:05:29 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Message received

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 21, 2017, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 21, 2017, 05:05:29 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Message received
Joel once spat on Ele and he's never forgiven him, and Heeney still hasn't cleaned his crap out of his locker at Tata Stadium... quite rude really. They decided their own fate
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 21, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Yeah Joel Selwood is a captain option, NDT dont like captain options.


Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 05:55:27 PM
Captain option. Hmm. Out of all the players on my list my highest average is 91.9. That should do nicely as captain. (C)onnor averaged 110 once he became gun though.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2017, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Yeah Joel Selwood is a captain option, NDT dont like captain options.

Why have one captain when you can flick it between half the team!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Yeah Joel Selwood is a captain option, NDT dont like captain options.

Why have one captain when you can flick it between half the team!

I don't know, personally i dont mind winning flags.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2017, 06:10:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Yeah Joel Selwood is a captain option, NDT dont like captain options.

Why have one captain when you can flick it between half the team!

I don't know, personally i dont mind winning flags.

I've done it before, its an overrated feeling - much like the feeling around that overrated Dublin team AMIRITE
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 06:10:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Yeah Joel Selwood is a captain option, NDT dont like captain options.

Why have one captain when you can flick it between half the team!

I don't know, personally i dont mind winning flags.

I've done it before, its an overrated feeling - much like the feeling around that overrated Dublin team AMIRITE

im sorry when did you win Worlds?

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on September 21, 2017, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 06:10:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Yeah Joel Selwood is a captain option, NDT dont like captain options.

Why have one captain when you can flick it between half the team!

I don't know, personally i dont mind winning flags.

I've done it before, its an overrated feeling - much like the feeling around that overrated Dublin team AMIRITE

im sorry when did you win Worlds?

I'm sorry, when did I say I'd won Worlds?

Besides, knocking out Dublame last season was easily better than a GF win
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on September 21, 2017, 07:09:30 PM
Willing to trade N9, N13, N21, N23, N25 or a combination of them for a young/middle age player, have a larger list size than needed and also under the cap. Could also package up picks/players to help with list size
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 07:13:45 PM
I'll give you 19 and 20 for 21, 23 and 25.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on September 21, 2017, 07:15:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 21, 2017, 07:13:45 PM
I'll give you 19 and 20 for 21, 23 and 25.
post it up
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on September 21, 2017, 09:25:29 PM
For those of you who need mids, Cunnignton and Zaharakis could be on the way out soon
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 22, 2017, 12:41:18 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 06:10:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Yeah Joel Selwood is a captain option, NDT dont like captain options.

Why have one captain when you can flick it between half the team!

I don't know, personally i dont mind winning flags.

I've done it before, its an overrated feeling - much like the feeling around that overrated Dublin team AMIRITE

im sorry when did you win Worlds?

I'm sorry, when did I say I'd won Worlds?

Besides, knocking out Dublame last season was easily better than a GF win

Didn't Rio eliminate Dublin in 2016?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 22, 2017, 01:00:35 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 22, 2017, 12:41:18 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 06:10:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Yeah Joel Selwood is a captain option, NDT dont like captain options.

Why have one captain when you can flick it between half the team!

I don't know, personally i dont mind winning flags.

I've done it before, its an overrated feeling - much like the feeling around that overrated Dublin team AMIRITE

im sorry when did you win Worlds?

I'm sorry, when did I say I'd won Worlds?

Besides, knocking out Dublame last season was easily better than a GF win

Didn't Rio eliminate Dublin in 2016?
Lets not get too lost in the specifics, the important thing to remember is Dublin lost and NDT also won on that day.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 22, 2017, 10:11:11 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 22, 2017, 01:00:35 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 22, 2017, 12:41:18 AM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 06:10:29 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 21, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 21, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
But there's a reason no New Yorkers featured on the list ;)

Yeah Joel Selwood is a captain option, NDT dont like captain options.

Why have one captain when you can flick it between half the team!

I don't know, personally i dont mind winning flags.

I've done it before, its an overrated feeling - much like the feeling around that overrated Dublin team AMIRITE

im sorry when did you win Worlds?

I'm sorry, when did I say I'd won Worlds?

Besides, knocking out Dublame last season was easily better than a GF win

Didn't Rio eliminate Dublin in 2016?
Lets not get too lost in the specifics, the important thing to remember is Dublin lost and NDT also won on that day.

You are correct Levi.

I dont think NDT have beat Dublin since 2012.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 22, 2017, 10:42:07 AM
Winning is overrated. More fun in trading out captain options
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 22, 2017, 12:07:17 PM
Given I have LeCras for next year (decent for every 2nd week), been thinking about parting with Dixon.

If you float a mid to me, or appeal to my bias, he could be yours!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 22, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 22, 2017, 12:07:17 PM
Given I have LeCras for next year (decent for every 2nd week), been thinking about parting with Dixon.

If you float a mid to me, or appeal to my bias, he could be yours!
Kent. Post it up when you're ready :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 22, 2017, 04:45:55 PM
Probably half the comp has shown interest in Hunter and/or 2MP at one point or another. They're looking like being traded by tomorrow, so if you're still interested then make an offer quickly!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 23, 2017, 05:06:52 PM
Depth on offer:
Lewis Jetta
Jackson Ramsay
Josh Walker
Ben McKay
Ben Jacobs
Gary Rohan
Jack Redpath
Brendan Whitecross
Angus Monfries

Take one for a pick take all for a pick!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 23, 2017, 05:09:26 PM
BTB
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 23, 2017, 05:10:15 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on September 23, 2017, 05:06:52 PM
Depth on offer:
Lewis Jetta
Jackson Ramsay
Josh Walker
Ben McKay
Ben Jacobs
Gary Rohan
Jack Redpath
Brendan Whitecross
Angus Monfries

Take one for a pick take all for a pick!
:o
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on September 25, 2017, 04:52:22 PM
Rocky could also be gone very soon, Dublin currently have the leading offer  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 25, 2017, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 25, 2017, 04:52:22 PM
Rocky could also be gone very soon, Dublin currently have the leading offer  8)
Someone please beat it
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 25, 2017, 05:59:47 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2017, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 25, 2017, 04:52:22 PM
Rocky could also be gone very soon, Dublin currently have the leading offer  8)
Someone please beat it

or watch me team fall apart if he gets injured and im playing guys like Sam durdin on field.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2017, 06:12:15 PM
Tarrant for Rocky

Post it up
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 26, 2017, 01:14:03 AM
Brodie Smith could be going soon at a discounted price.

Scott Selwood still available for those teams that are in dire need of midfielders.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 26, 2017, 03:52:38 PM
JPK might be gawn very soon
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: GoLions on September 26, 2017, 03:52:38 PM
JPK might be gawn very soon

Doubt Purps will trade him. I call bullshower.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 04:00:49 PM
It doesn't involve Gawn, but it does involve Berlin ;)

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 26, 2017, 04:03:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 04:00:49 PM
It doesn't involve Gawn, but it does involve Berlin ;)

potentially involves Berlin.

I'm about to put my offer in.

watch this space

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 04:09:28 PM
Picks 6 + 8 + 18 + 19 together on the table for one player. Lose a star and set yourself up for the future in a big way.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
Pick 8 is the highest pick I've had in WXV. Three times. WHE, Steele, SPS. Toby Mac at 18 crushes those though.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 26, 2017, 04:35:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
Pick 8 is the highest pick I've had in WXV. Three times. WHE, Steele, SPS. Toby Mac at 18 crushes those though.

make sure you keep the picks then.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 26, 2017, 04:49:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 26, 2017, 04:03:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 04:00:49 PM
It doesn't involve Gawn, but it does involve Berlin ;)

potentially involves Berlin.

I'm about to put my offer in.

watch this space

Mate, I let you win the ******** battle, let me have this :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 26, 2017, 04:54:12 PM
Trade activity with an odd spike though, good to see  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 05:34:49 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 26, 2017, 04:54:12 PM
Trade activity with an odd spike though, good to see  8)

Yes, lets hope a 2nd wind has kicked in for all of us :)

Another nice 3 way trade just landed - very nice for all teams :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 06:06:55 PM
Joey, McVeigh, Lever, Murphy
Gibbs, Mitchell, Wells, (C)onnor
Sandi
McLean, Higgins, Waite, Lester
Steele, Griffen (Fiorini)

Joey to Libba via Connor. +/- 0?
Lever to Wilson. -5-10?
Murphy to Andrews. -5?

Gibbs to Scully. -10?
Mitchell to Redden. -5?
Higgins/Wells swap
Lester to SPS. -5?

Gone backwards. Finished 11th. We're flowered.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 07:49:52 PM
Anyone want a youngster like Jarrad Waite to help with their rebuild? If Greenwood who will be 26 when round 1 kicks off next season qualifies as a youngster then surely Waite does too? JW will keep his forward status.

Anyone want a young gun defender Harris Andrews? Clearly much better than that 63 average former number 1 pick.

Anyone want James Stewart? Has shown as much potential and less injury thAn Wood.

Would probably be asking for someone with the scoring potential of Dangerfield or Pendles in his prime for all three.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 07:55:10 PM
LMAO!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 26, 2017, 10:15:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 07:49:52 PM
Anyone want a youngster like Jarrad Waite to help with their rebuild? If Greenwood who will be 26 when round 1 kicks off next season qualifies as a youngster then surely Waite does too? JW will keep his forward status.

Anyone want a young gun defender Harris Andrews? Clearly much better than that 63 average former number 1 pick.

Anyone want James Stewart? Has shown as much potential and less injury thAn Wood.

Would probably be asking for someone with the scoring potential of Dangerfield or Pendles in his prime for all three.
Dangerfield + BTB*
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 26, 2017, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 26, 2017, 07:49:52 PM
Anyone want a youngster like Jarrad Waite to help with their rebuild? If Greenwood who will be 26 when round 1 kicks off next season qualifies as a youngster then surely Waite does too? JW will keep his forward status.

Anyone want a young gun defender Harris Andrews? Clearly much better than that 63 average former number 1 pick.

Anyone want James Stewart? Has shown as much potential and less injury thAn Wood.

Would probably be asking for someone with the scoring potential of Dangerfield or Pendles in his prime for all three.

If purp lets me pick him up want Dane Swan?

he is younger then Waite.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
To those involved in the Rocky and Ablett trades

Care to provide a bit of context around how you break the value of each component down? Because as far as I can see it's Rocky for Weits + Wood + Greenwood and Ablett for JOM + 11. The rest is meaningless fluff, so would be good to hear your assessments and thoughts because you haven't given any, and I'm sure the additional will help :)

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
To those involved in the Rocky and Ablett trades

Care to provide a bit of context around how you break the value of each component down? Because as far as I can see it's Rocky for Weits + Wood + Greenwood and Ablett for JOM + 11. The rest is meaningless fluff, so would be good to hear your assessments and thoughts because you haven't given any, and I'm sure the additional will help :)
Yeh i see it as Rocky for Weits and Greenwood. Wood for Himmelberg and PSD8.

Would also like a breakdown on the Ablett one please Ada and Levi
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 11:21:36 AM
Yeah it's interesting that we see things differently, so it just shows how important it is to provide information when posting trades

Himmelberg has never played a game of AFL and I can't see that happening anytime soon which is why it's hard for me think he  is worth anything, where as Wood has shown that when fit he's easily best 22 and can score well
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 11:21:36 AM
Yeah it's interesting that we see things differently, so it just shows how important it is to provide information when posting trades

Himmelberg has never played a game of AFL and I can't see that happening anytime soon which is why it's hard for me think he  is worth anything, where as Wood has shown that when fit he's easily best 22 and can score well
Yeh that's it.
Dunno about Wood tho, 25 next year and only went at a 64ave.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2017, 11:28:34 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
To those involved in the Rocky and Ablett trades

Care to provide a bit of context around how you break the value of each component down? Because as far as I can see it's Rocky for Weits + Wood + Greenwood and Ablett for JOM + 11. The rest is meaningless fluff, so would be good to hear your assessments and thoughts because you haven't given any, and I'm sure the additional will help :)
Yeh i see it as Rocky for Weits and Greenwood. Wood for Himmelberg and PSD8.

Would also like a breakdown on the Ablett one please Ada and Levi

ok so its certainly not Wood for PSD8 + Himmelberg.

PSD8 and Himmelberg where tiny things that where just added on as my list size is smaller. Himmelberg was given as a list of guys he didnt needed or might be delisted. PSD8 is unlikely to be even used by Jroo so the trade is Weits + Wood + Greenwood for Rocky.

So to break it down.

How i do my analysis on players is i look for trends both in their analytics and also expert reports on them.

Jacob Weitering has all the hall marks of a future premo CHB. He was not only a number 1 draft pick but a consensus number 1 draft pick. He has shown amazing maturity and leadership while displaying great AFL superstar potential at this early age. When it comes to KPD what you want to see is a guy who has a high ceiling but throws in a few stinkers, as they develop the stinkers become good games and then they have more and more premo scores.

KPD do take time but Weits has been able to put up these score 87 129 121 85 94 102 108 89 113 that shows he has premo ability. He also ended the year with a 93 average in his last month. He has all the hallmarks of Rance 2.0 but honestly beats him in every category at the same age.

This is like when i traded Docherty i know i was giving away a future sun, it could be next year like Rance did or it could be the year after or even worse case 3 years from now, but every single indicator points to him being a premo defender. 

Hugh Greenwood: Now he is a unique guy as he was an amazing AFl talent before deicding to play basketball. Has only had 1 year as a full time AFL player and was able to put up 85 average with only 65% TOG. He is just about to enter prime age and as he builds up a tank who knows what he can do with 75-80% TOG. All the people i have spoken too have said DPP as he lines up on a HFF most of the time, his heat map indicates that.


Mason Wood: Has tremendous upside i have chased him for three years, has only just turned 24. He was able to put up 82 in 2016 and even then he wasnt 100%. He hasnt got his body right unfortunately but he is fully fit at the moment (certainly fitter then Rocky in his arm sling). He can score as he drifts up ground and wins the ball as seen in round 7 and 9 with 40 touches, 14 marks, 7 tackles and 5 goals 6 in those 2 games. Talk to any north man and they rate him, as steak knives he is very low risk as he didnt cost much but huge reward. If he gets his body right he would be a starter in any WXV team.

Summary: So essentially a very young defender who at worst i predict 80-85 for 10 years at best Rance 2.0 or better + a entering prime forward who with 65% TOG  was still a low end F2 or high end F3 then a speculative young forward who if he gets his body right is a forward starter.




Rocky: The truth is Rocky can not be trusted to play a full season. He has missed 17 games in the last 4 years, had a few where he was injured early and then 10+ where he was playing hampered by injury. Thats 25%+ of the time he is not playing or playing through a noticeable injury. The reason i got him is obvious if you have him the other 70% of the time then he pumps out a 110-115 average and im crossing my fingers that is the last 4 weeks of the season. He of course can go berserk for a month or two and put up crazy numbers aswell.


Im looking at this deal similar to when i gave Docherty + hogan for Walters + Darling. I know in the long run i will get masacred but this trade could give me a flag if im lucky enough that Rocky is healthy for finals. I can take the risk as i can make finals without Rocky.









Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2017, 11:30:45 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 11:21:36 AM
Yeah it's interesting that we see things differently, so it just shows how important it is to provide information when posting trades

Himmelberg has never played a game of AFL and I can't see that happening anytime soon which is why it's hard for me think he  is worth anything, where as Wood has shown that when fit he's easily best 22 and can score well
Yeh that's it.
Dunno about Wood tho, 25 next year and only went at a 64ave.

good points.

Rocky is 28 next year and averaged only 96. Greenwood is turning 26 and averaged 85 but is a forward.

Rocky for Greenwood straight swap seems fair based on that rationality.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:36:42 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2017, 11:30:45 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 11:21:36 AM
Yeah it's interesting that we see things differently, so it just shows how important it is to provide information when posting trades

Himmelberg has never played a game of AFL and I can't see that happening anytime soon which is why it's hard for me think he  is worth anything, where as Wood has shown that when fit he's easily best 22 and can score well
Yeh that's it.
Dunno about Wood tho, 25 next year and only went at a 64ave.

good points.

Rocky is 28 next year and averaged only 96. Greenwood is turning 26 and averaged 85 but is a forward.

Rocky for Greenwood straight swap seems fair based on that rationality.
Holz pls ::)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2017, 11:44:25 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:36:42 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2017, 11:30:45 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 11:21:36 AM
Yeah it's interesting that we see things differently, so it just shows how important it is to provide information when posting trades

Himmelberg has never played a game of AFL and I can't see that happening anytime soon which is why it's hard for me think he  is worth anything, where as Wood has shown that when fit he's easily best 22 and can score well
Yeh that's it.
Dunno about Wood tho, 25 next year and only went at a 64ave.

good points.

Rocky is 28 next year and averaged only 96. Greenwood is turning 26 and averaged 85 but is a forward.

Rocky for Greenwood straight swap seems fair based on that rationality.
Holz pls ::)

Hey i dont agree with the reasoning, im just going by you :P

How about the 82 average from Wood the year before.

65 in year 1
67 in year 2 (unsubbed)
84 in year 3

then had a down year.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:57:16 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2017, 11:44:25 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:36:42 AM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2017, 11:30:45 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 11:21:36 AM
Yeah it's interesting that we see things differently, so it just shows how important it is to provide information when posting trades

Himmelberg has never played a game of AFL and I can't see that happening anytime soon which is why it's hard for me think he  is worth anything, where as Wood has shown that when fit he's easily best 22 and can score well
Yeh that's it.
Dunno about Wood tho, 25 next year and only went at a 64ave.

good points.

Rocky is 28 next year and averaged only 96. Greenwood is turning 26 and averaged 85 but is a forward.

Rocky for Greenwood straight swap seems fair based on that rationality.
Holz pls ::)

Hey i dont agree with the reasoning, im just going by you :P

How about the 82 average from Wood the year before.

65 in year 1
67 in year 2 (unsubbed)
84 in year 3

then had a down year.
Lol I'm not going to get into it about Wood Holz, like you said he's steak knives


Reality is it's a key defender who went at pick 8 in WXVs which is what counts here, not pick 1. He may play like Rance, but its extremely unlikely he scores consistently like him. History show's that.

Even if he does, its an 85-90ish averaging key defender for most of his career. It's not THAT valuable.

And at the moment he's just a 60ish defender who won't even start for you when Birchall returns.


Rocky is up there as one of the best scorers in the comp. He was going at 123ave before his shoulder.



So as it stands you're only really giving up one 85 starter and a depth youngster for one of the best scorers in the comp...
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2017, 12:20:31 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 11:57:16 AM
So as it stands you're only really giving up one 85 starter and a depth youngster for one of the best scorers in the comp...

Who cares where weits was drafted 2 years ago. I had him 4th in that draft and he has exceeded my expectations. KPD take time, what more do you want to see from a a 20 year old KPD.

he went 68 in his first year and then backed it up with another 68 when he was actually play in his defender role. He has 9 85+ scores in his first 2 years so he can certainly score. Weits as a depth youngster is an insult.

If Taranto who has shown far less can get a 95 average Ruck (who plays 20+ games every year) then you can easily say im giving up a 95 average ruck + a 85 average forward + a guy who has late 1st round value for a Star yes.



Rocky has missed 17 games and averaged 103 in the games he has played in the last 3 years. Im not guying to pay 123 average, 20+ games a year price for him, as thats not who he is.











Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 01:28:54 PM
Buenos Aires trade: Scott Pendlebury, Daniel Gorringe + Pick 32
Toronto trade: Travis Boak, Taylor Walker + Darcy Parish

Pendles vs Rocky is a close enough comparison

Based off that:
Parish vs Weits
Boak vs Greenwood
Tex vs Wood

Gorringe + 32 just as useless as Himmel + PSD8

I'm just referencing this trade for something to help the decision making process



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 27, 2017, 01:30:41 PM
Just on the Ablett trade.

Jaeger O'Meara is worth a top 3 pick. The only risk involved with him is injury, but I'm of the belief that Hawthorn wouldn't have paid the price they did for him if they didn't think they could get him right. He's a proven commodity at AFL level. He had 36 disposals in round 2 after having two seasons out of the game. He came back for the last two rounds after another huge injury layoff and was in the best three players on the ground in round 23 (25 disposals, 11 tackles). Dude can play.

Ablett is just as big an injury risk so you could say the injury issues are cancelled out.

You can call the rest of the players meaningless fluff but it was only two seasons ago that Marco Paparone averaged 77 as a 21yo defender. His last two seasons have been destroyed by injury and form. There's talk he may request a trade back to WA for more opportunity which would increase his value significantly. Laugh at me all you want but Joel Hamling is one of the few key defenders that could become SC relevant with his huge tank and ability to roll off his opponent and spread (ask Levi I was trying to keep him out of the deal).

Even if you don't rate these guys at all and we assign them picks 35 each:

N3 + N35
FOR
N10(?) + N11

Is very reasonable.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2017, 01:38:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 01:28:54 PM
Buenos Aires trade: Scott Pendlebury, Daniel Gorringe + Pick 32
Toronto trade: Travis Boak, Taylor Walker + Darcy Parish

Pendles vs Rocky is a close enough comparison

Based off that:
Parish vs Weits
Boak vs Greenwood
Tex vs Wood

Gorringe + 32 just as useless as Himmel + PSD8

I'm just referencing this trade for something to help the decision making process

its a good post but

Pendles = Rocky is mile off

at the time of the trade they where basically same age.

Pendles had gone 129 125 127 125 116 118 and missed 5 gamed in the last 6 years.
Rocky has gone 97 110 132 102 111 97 and missed 17 games in the last 4 years.

Pendles was basically a injury free fully firing Rocky.

The 3 year averages leading into the trade is even worse. Rocky 103 v Pendles 120.

You cant value Rocky at 100% of his upside.

I dont think the comparison is even close.






Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 27, 2017, 01:50:07 PM
Thanks Ada :)

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 01:28:54 PM
Buenos Aires trade: Scott Pendlebury, Daniel Gorringe + Pick 32
Toronto trade: Travis Boak, Taylor Walker + Darcy Parish

Pendles vs Rocky is a close enough comparison

Based off that:
Parish vs Weits
Boak vs Greenwood
Tex vs Wood

Gorringe + 32 just as useless as Himmel + PSD8

I'm just referencing this trade for something to help the decision making process
Yeh a close enough comparison RD. Two decent starters and a young gun for a gun scorer of Pendles quality is reasonable. Rocky obviously not quite at Pendles durability level, but scoring wise he is right up there with the best

And Holz we know Rocky is more injury prone than Pendles, but you cannot deny his scoring ability.


Rocky's last 4 years have been:
131
101 and was knocked out for 0, without it he went 109
111
and 120 before his shoulder this year

131, 109, 111, 120*

Can't deny that scoring ability mate
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 01:51:28 PM
Deep breathe guys, deep breathe ;)

I never had a go at any of the trades or said they were good/bad

I simply asked for your reasoning as it was not mentioned when posting, and as they are pretty significant trades a little info is all I wanted :)

TBH, I don't see either teams getting ripped off or losing majorly, therefore they pass for me

The teams challenging for a flag definitely get a boost to personal, but the teams rebuilding also do very well too so as easy as it is just to look at the short term, I'm factoring in the long term too

Rocky and GAJ are two of the best, but it's no real secret that GAJ doesn't have much time left and Rocky has his question marks too, so when everything is considered and balanced out although I don't want to see Dublin and Toronto land these two for obvious reasons, I can''t see enough of a reason to neg them personally, although I could be persuaded :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 27, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Soon Holz will be saying Gibbs > Rocky
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on September 27, 2017, 02:41:34 PM
Holz summed it up pretty well. I was actually hoping to hold onto Rocky, as I think he can get back to his best injury free

But I'm rebuilding now and I really like Weitering, former #1 pick and shown some pretty good SC form towards end of year. Think he'll be a gun. Greenwood is also handy and even though he is a little older it was only his first season of AFL football and that's what I meant when I said he was a youngster :P . But as Holz said once he builds up his tank he'll spend more time on the ground and he's very capable of continuing on as a 85ave fwd next year. Wood is also a good prospect and while not super young I like the look of him. Averaged 80 odd last year and if injury free could be anything
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 27, 2017, 03:14:52 PM
Echoing Adamant's sediments.

I would have traded GAJ for a top 5 pick in this draft but none were offered. I rate JAEGER as a top 3 pick and was happy to do that. Paperone and Hamling will sure up my backline and I think both have a lot of room to grow as players.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2017, 03:21:00 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 27, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Soon Holz will be saying Gibbs > Rocky

Nah Rocky better then Gibbs.

Greenwood + Weits + wood would not buy you gibbs.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2017, 03:21:00 PM
Greenwood + Weits + wood would not buy you gibbs.

Post it up!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2017, 03:21:00 PM
Greenwood + Weits + wood would not buy you gibbs.

Post it up!
haha oops.

Meant to say I would certainly not trade in gibbs for the cost of those 3.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 27, 2017, 04:08:55 PM
I've had a fair amount of interest in N4. I'm open to trading it so send us a PM.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 04:12:18 PM
Anyone have any starting forwards for sale? 80+ average

Let me know
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 27, 2017, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2017, 03:21:00 PM
Greenwood + Weits + wood would not buy you gibbs.

Post it up!
haha oops.

Meant to say I would certainly not trade in gibbs for the cost of those 3.

WHY NOT?

If Rocky is merely a 103 average mid who has missed 17 games in the past 3 seasons that makes him inferior to Gibbs who is a 22@105 gun. Are you saying that Rocky is actually better than the 103 average and injury troubles? Contradiction 101.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2017, 07:26:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 27, 2017, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 27, 2017, 03:21:00 PM
Greenwood + Weits + wood would not buy you gibbs.

Post it up!
haha oops.

Meant to say I would certainly not trade in gibbs for the cost of those 3.

WHY NOT?

If Rocky is merely a 103 average mid who has missed 17 games in the past 3 seasons that makes him inferior to Gibbs who is a 22@105 gun. Are you saying that Rocky is actually better than the 103 average and injury troubles? Contradiction 101.

Never said he was. The truth is he has averaged 103 last 3 years. He also has 120+ potential

The reality is likely in the middle.

The only reason im getting rocky is round 20 22 23. I just need 3 games from him a year.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 27, 2017, 07:42:20 PM
So he's valued as a 110 mid.

For an 85 MID, an overhyped 65 average defender and an injury prone who has had one good patch of 8 games amongst a lot of meh and injury in his 5 AFL seasons, coming off a 64 average this year.

65 isn't a starter. In real terms it's a 110 mid for an 85 mid and a couple of extra reserves players who might become starting quality, or might not.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 27, 2017, 07:50:41 PM
Harris Andrews averaged 90.7 for a 6 game patch in his first season. Has played 3 years and still not 21 years old yet. 69 average this year, will be the next Rance and average 90 for 8 years. Give me pick 1 for him.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on September 27, 2017, 08:31:28 PM
Ok i see we are no longer talking seriously soo ill leave it at that.

I think im pretty much done for trading
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 27, 2017, 10:55:23 PM
Loving the 3 way trades that have been done this year - another solid one just put through

Get us involved in one!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 11:56:51 AM
These teams still to vote

Beijing Thunder
London Royals
Moscow Spetsnaz
New York Revolution
Pacific Islanders
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on September 29, 2017, 12:03:20 PM
I've voted Purps, or at least my inbox says I have.. Let me know if you need me to re-send :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 12:20:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 29, 2017, 12:03:20 PM
I've voted Purps, or at least my inbox says I have.. Let me know if you need me to re-send :)

... so you did! My bad.




Another coach has voted, meaning with there is 3 to go. Therefore, the following will auto-pass given they've so far received 0 votes




Trade 50
Mexico City trade: Pick 8 + Pick 18
Christchurch trade: Pick 7 + Pick 20

Trade 51
Pacific trade: Declan Mountford + Pick 34
Mexico trade: Nathan Hrovat + Pick 57

Trade 52
Toronto trade: Brodie Smith + Sam Wright
Mexico City trade: Pick 20 + Pick 26
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on September 29, 2017, 04:17:19 PM
I'm not keen on trading Dan Rioli but I have been receiving a number of solid offers for him. He could be traded soon.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
Best trade of the trade period so far
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2017, 06:06:45 PM
Dylan Roberton, Jeremy McGovern, Jack Newnes, Nick Vlastuin, Andrew McGrath and Tom Stewart all on the table for a good mid or two.

The better the mid(s), the better you're chance of getting a McGovern/Roberton type.

PM here or on Discord, remember you can message ML too if you don't wanna talk to me.  :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2017, 06:23:07 PM
Just wanting to be completely transparent

Trade 53
Toronto trade: Brad Ebert, Scott Selwood + Pick 26
Toronto receive: Lachie Hunter, Peter Wright + Harley Balic

New Delhi trade: Aaron Mullett + Harley Balic
New Delhi receive: Scott Selwood + Pick 26

Cape Town trade: Lachie Hunter + Peter Wright
Cape Town receive: Brad Ebert + Aaron Mullett

We have negged this trade

AK has a friend who knows that Mullet has been told by North he isn't getting a contract offer (expires this year), and this article alludes to it too

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-crows-to-use-lever-to-prise-bryce-gibbs-from-carlton/news-story/fbbfebaa248b9aa148a87c242b8f9147

So based off that, we're negging as their is too much unknown around Mullet for now

Just thought it was fair to all teams involved that we share this information, as they may want to revisit the trade
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: DazBurg on September 29, 2017, 06:31:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2017, 06:23:07 PM
Just wanting to be completely transparent

Trade 53
Toronto trade: Brad Ebert, Scott Selwood + Pick 26
Toronto receive: Lachie Hunter, Peter Wright + Harley Balic

New Delhi trade: Aaron Mullett + Harley Balic
New Delhi receive: Scott Selwood + Pick 26

Cape Town trade: Lachie Hunter + Peter Wright
Cape Town receive: Brad Ebert + Aaron Mullett

We have negged this trade

AK has a friend who knows that Mullet has been told by North he isn't getting a contract offer (expires this year), and this article alludes to it too

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trades-crows-to-use-lever-to-prise-bryce-gibbs-from-carlton/news-story/fbbfebaa248b9aa148a87c242b8f9147

So based off that, we're negging as their is too much unknown around Mullet for now

Just thought it was fair to all teams involved that we share this information, as they may want to revisit the trade

QuoteNorth, who have told out-of-contract defender Aaron Mullett it would be in his best interest to look elsewhere, yesterday declared they were no longer interested in Geelong free agent Daniel Motlop.

See this is why Cats don't bottom out astute recruiting, i wouldn't want Daniel motlop either,

hahaha
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2017, 06:34:59 PM
Oh well, got plenty of footy left in him. Clubs scream out for defenders that kick it well

Even if it happens he'll get snapped up and play more games than old one leg Scooter next year lol
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2017, 06:42:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2017, 06:34:59 PM
Oh well, got plenty of footy left in him. Clubs scream out for defenders that kick it well

Even if it happens he'll get snapped up and play more games than old one leg Scooter next year lol

Yeah, I thought the trade was very nice for all teams (Think I even posted that when you guys posted it up too) until AK mentioned his mate told him Mullet was goneski, so I think we just have to neg it for now, and then wait for an update on Mullet first
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2017, 06:47:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2017, 06:42:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2017, 06:34:59 PM
Oh well, got plenty of footy left in him. Clubs scream out for defenders that kick it well

Even if it happens he'll get snapped up and play more games than old one leg Scooter next year lol

Yeah, I thought the trade was very nice for all teams (Think I even posted that when you guys posted it up too) until AK mentioned his mate told him Mullet was goneski, so I think we just have to neg it for now, and then wait for an update on Mullet first
Hypothetically, what if Cape Town is happy to take the risk?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on September 29, 2017, 06:51:24 PM
Yeah I'd be pretty shocked if Mullett didn't attract any interest. If Ricky Henderson, who is three years older and an inferior player got picked up by the Hawks then Mullett has no worries.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 29, 2017, 06:59:40 PM
Quote from: Adamant on September 29, 2017, 06:51:24 PM
Yeah I'd be pretty shocked if Mullett didn't attract any interest. If Ricky Henderson, who is three years older and an inferior player got picked up by the Hawks then Mullett has no worries.
Pretty much this
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 29, 2017, 07:00:47 PM
I expect Mullet to get picked up for sure, but I'm sure you can also understand why we negged the trade, because this news of Mullet was unknown so we just thought it was in everyones interest

If Cape Town is happy, then by all means we will pass it

Just wanted to be transparent and fair :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 29, 2017, 07:09:41 PM
If he doesn't get picked up then NDT can just give me someone like Howe or Rich for Mullett instead :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2017, 07:38:05 PM
Looking to move Adam Oxley, Travis Cloke and maybe Nick Robbo

Interested in picks


Remember...


Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2017, 08:16:17 PM
Mark Stevens‏ @Stevo7AFL 
More
Been some confusion/debate about  Travis Cloke. His camp 100 per cent certain he will play next year, see out contract. @7NewsMelbourne

Travis "Stringer of 2015 except will average more" Cloke 8.0
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 29, 2017, 07:49:55 PM
N39
N77
PSD22
R22
R40
R58

May use N39, won't be using the rest. If you need any extra picks, I'm just looking to upgrade any of these bad boys
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on September 29, 2017, 08:58:25 PM
Rio on a rampage!




Another vote in, meaning this trade (that has so far received 1 vote) will auto-pass

Trade 56
Toronto trade: Jaeger O'Meara, Joel Hamling + Marco Paparone
Rio de Janeiro trade: Gary Ablett, Josh Walker + Pick 11
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2017, 12:09:45 AM
Redden + #6 potentially on the move.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on September 30, 2017, 12:13:54 AM
Rookie 1 available. PSD 7 available.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2017, 05:18:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 29, 2017, 07:38:05 PM
Looking to move Adam Oxley, Travis Cloke and maybe Nick Robbo

Interested in picks


Remember...


Quote from: Ricochet on September 18, 2017, 08:16:17 PM
Mark Stevens‏ @Stevo7AFL 
More
Been some confusion/debate about  Travis Cloke. His camp 100 per cent certain he will play next year, see out contract. @7NewsMelbourne

Travis "Stringer of 2015 except will average more" Cloke 8.0

May also consider trading Marc Murphy.

Has been seen to have questionable durability but in the last 5 years he has gone
2013: 21 games
2014: 20 games
2015: 19 games
2016: 10 games
2017: 22 games

2016 ruined by that big ankle injury which saw him miss the last half of the year

Scoring has never been an issue...
He's gone 100+ in 7 out of the past 10 years, and 90+ in 9 out of the 10.


Looking for a slightly younger, decent scoring mid. Can add more if needed
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 01, 2017, 05:36:46 PM
All votes in!

Trade 50
Mexico City trade: Pick 8 + Pick 18
Christchurch trade: Pick 7 + Pick 20
Votes: 0
Coaches comments: Nil
Admin comments: Nil
Verdict: PASS

Trade 51
Pacific trade: Declan Mountford + Pick 34
Mexico trade: Nathan Hrovat + Pick 57
Votes: 0
Coaches comments: Nil
Admin comments: Nil
Verdict: PASS

Trade 52
Toronto trade: Brodie Smith + Sam Wright
Mexico City trade: Pick 20 + Pick 26
Votes: 0
Coaches comments: Nil
Admin comments: Nil
Verdict: PASS

Trade 53
Toronto trade: Brad Ebert, Scott Selwood + Pick 26
Toronto receive: Lachie Hunter, Peter Wright + Harley Balic

New Delhi trade: Aaron Mullett + Harley Balic
New Delhi receive: Scott Selwood + Pick 26

Cape Town trade: Lachie Hunter + Peter Wright
Cape Town receive: Brad Ebert + Aaron Mullett
Votes: 3
Coaches comments: Felt New Delhi was winning by too much because of concerns over Mullett's value.
Admin comments: See Ricky Henderson, I reckon Mullett will be fine. It's an autopass anyway.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 54
Dublin trade: Jacob Weitering, Hugh Greenwood + Mason Wood
Mexico trade: Tom Rockliff, Elliot Himmelberg + Pre-Season Draft Pick 8
Votes: 7
Coaches comments: Felt Rockliff was worth something more substantial than 3 players with questionable scoring capabilities.
Admin comments: Personally, I would have let this pass. However, I certainly agree that Weitering shouldn't be assumed to become a fantasy gun in the future and I think this trade relies on that to some extent. Greenwood will be a handy player for sure, but a reasonable chance to lose fwd status and coupled with Wood's scoring uncertainty, I don't disagree with the coaches enough that these three players are not worth one of the best SCers of this decade when fit. I won't overturn this decision from a  REJECT to a PASS.
Verdict: REJECTED

Trade 55
Seoul trade: Tom Langdon
Christchurch trade: Pick 8 + Pick 18
Votes: 4
Coaches comments: Felt Pick 18 was paying too much.
Admin comments: Whilst I agree that Pick 18 might be a little much, I respect meow's logic/reasoning for the trade here. Langdon seems a safe 80+ bet and at 23, as shown enough evidence of improving to warrant Pick 18 on top of 8.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 56
Toronto trade: Jaeger O'Meara, Joel Hamling + Marco Paparone
Rio de Janeiro trade: Gary Ablett, Josh Walker + Pick 11
Votes: 1
Coaches comments: Felt this was too much for the unreliable GAJ.
Admin comments: It's a risk, and I love it. PAPAGUN!
Verdict: PASS
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 01, 2017, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 20, 2017, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 11, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 09, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2017, 08:04:10 PM
Kurt Tippett is once again the number ruck at NY :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2017, 08:15:24 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2017, 08:04:10 PM
Kurt Tippett is once again the number ruck at NY :P
Lol yep Paddy's in a bit of trouble
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 01, 2017, 09:01:59 PM
Should have chased solid citizen Roughead instead.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 01, 2017, 09:09:41 PM
Spencer to Port Adelaide?

If Tippett comes to melb (Demonland has discussed it), then we won't have a problem RD  ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 01, 2017, 09:14:29 PM
Two of #19, Fiorini, Griffen, Higgins, Scully, Redden for a better mid anyone? Could even part with SPS or #6 if the deal requires it.

Anyone want rookie pick 1? upgrade nat 48 and it's all yours
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 01, 2017, 09:17:31 PM
LeCras for mid depth? For a similar age, but north of a 70 average?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 01, 2017, 10:07:55 PM
Hah, Ryder will be there Round 1 which is all I care about ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 02, 2017, 10:25:40 AM
Im looking for a top 30 forward, must be 27 or under.

I can probably offer a top 20 pick.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 10:48:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 02, 2017, 10:25:40 AM
Im looking for a top 30 forward, must be 27 or under.

I can probably offer a top 20 pick.

Serious question, are there actually any forwards who are under 27 and Top 30 that would be available for a pick?

Slim pickings I'd think
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 02, 2017, 10:53:17 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 10:48:10 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 02, 2017, 10:25:40 AM
Im looking for a top 30 forward, must be 27 or under.

I can probably offer a top 20 pick.

Serious question, are there actually any forwards who are under 27 and Top 30 that would be available for a pick?

Slim pickings I'd think

I dont imagine so, but i have heard thats the price, if thats the case ill trade in some late 1st rounders and pick up some starters.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 10:58:57 AM
Top 30 would be around the 85 mark.

I gave up 8 and 18 for an 82 average defender. You're going to have to pay a bit more than a late first rounder for an 80+ player m8.

Fowards worth 8 more than mids. 85 + 8 = 92 mid. I'll give up pick 6 for a 92 mid. Won't get any takers. Good luck getting any for pick 20 or whatever.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 11:03:36 AM
Holz I'll give you pick 19 for Gunston. That's the kind of deal you're seeking so you must think it's about right.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 02, 2017, 11:17:10 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 11:03:36 AM
Holz I'll give you pick 19 for Gunston. That's the kind of deal you're seeking so you must think it's about right.

It personally rate a top 30 fwd under 27 as top 5 easy, so i wont do that deal./

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 12:05:51 PM
Tom Lynch was the 30th ranked fwd this year.

Pick 20 should get it done easy

It's probably overs tbh
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 02, 2017, 11:17:10 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 11:03:36 AM
Holz I'll give you pick 19 for Gunston. That's the kind of deal you're seeking so you must think it's about right.

It personally rate a top 30 fwd under 27 as top 5 easy, so i wont do that deal./

So you won''t trade your under 27 starting forward for a pick but think others will do to you?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 12:09:27 PM
Toby Mac was pick 19 and now he's a 22 year old top 30 forward, considerably better than Petracca. Toby Mac is worth more than pick 1.

Pick 19 on the table for pick 1 + extra.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 12:10:18 PM
We're still looking for a starting mid

85+ would be ideal

Happy to give Pick 32 for one, which is spot on considering a 85+ forward is worth a Top 20 pick

Obv needs to be under 27 years old too

;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 02, 2017, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 12:09:27 PM
Toby Mac was pick 19 and now he's a 22 year old top 30 forward, considerably better than Petracca. Toby Mac is worth more than pick 1.

Pick 19 on the table for pick 1 + extra.


He only averaged in the 60s his first 2 years he is a scrub.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 12:11:24 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 02, 2017, 11:17:10 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 11:03:36 AM
Holz I'll give you pick 19 for Gunston. That's the kind of deal you're seeking so you must think it's about right.

It personally rate a top 30 fwd under 27 as top 5 easy, so i wont do that deal./

So you won''t trade your under 27 starting forward for a pick but think others will do to you?
Well to be fair, depends on where a team is at. JRoo might take a pick for a 26yr old fwd
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 02, 2017, 12:12:37 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 02, 2017, 11:17:10 AM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 11:03:36 AM
Holz I'll give you pick 19 for Gunston. That's the kind of deal you're seeking so you must think it's about right.

It personally rate a top 30 fwd under 27 as top 5 easy, so i wont do that deal./

So you won''t trade your under 27 starting forward for a pick but think others will do to you?

Yes because i value players differently to many others it seems.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 12:16:18 PM
Asked Jroo about Breust Holz? Down year but gone 80-85 basically his whole career.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 12:16:18 PM
Asked Jroo about Breust Holz?. Down year but gone 80-85 basically his whole career

Got Daniel Wells for this spud. Lose-lose trade right there.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on October 02, 2017, 12:19:04 PM
Plenty of forwards available at 'Jing.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 02, 2017, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 12:09:27 PM
Toby Mac was pick 19 and now he's a 22 year old top 30 forward, considerably better than Petracca. Toby Mac is worth more than pick 1.

Pick 19 on the table for pick 1 + extra.


He only averaged in the 60s his first 2 years he is a scrub.

Wrong. Improved in his second season to 70. Isn't a KPD. Absolute gun. Better than Petracca and Weits combined.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 02, 2017, 12:51:12 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2017, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 02, 2017, 12:16:18 PM
Asked Jroo about Breust Holz?. Down year but gone 80-85 basically his whole career

Got Daniel Wells for this spud. Lose-lose trade right there.
It's no Rocky Sicily for Gibbs Sandi  :P

But Breust, along with Broadbent have both been 80+ ave players since 2012 (apart from 2017 of course) and they're two that could be moved on
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on October 02, 2017, 01:01:14 PM
Eric Hipwood is a 48ave gun. But since he will be the next Buddy he is locked in for a 95+ average. PM if interested.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 02, 2017, 11:38:42 PM
We're still looking for a starting mid or forward and can give up a defender/s

Robbie Tarrant, Lachie Henderson, Heath Shaw, Reece Conca, Lewis Young, Harry Marsh, Ben Sinclair and Sam Gilbert

Can possibly give up Kurt Tippett, Ben Reid or Eddie Betts too



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 01:38:12 AM
Take out Higgins, Ryder, Yeo, Steele, Nankervis, BHill

Boom

George Hewett is top 30 in total points for the year

There you go Holz, you're welcome
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 03, 2017, 02:06:48 AM
Rico where's your list of players you'd trade Hanners for and replace Hanners with Jack Graham for me thx :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on October 03, 2017, 02:45:09 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 03, 2017, 02:06:48 AM
Rico where's your list of players you'd trade Hanners for and replace Hanners with Jack Graham for me thx :P
Ah damn, thought Mitch Duncan was gonna get it done :'(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 03, 2017, 09:57:59 AM
12 in one day, not bad. These teams still to vote:

Buenos Aires Armadillos
Cairo Sands
London Royals
Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 01:38:12 AM
Take out Higgins, Ryder, Yeo, Steele, Nankervis, BHill

Boom

George Hewett is top 30 in total points for the year

There you go Holz, you're welcome

75th best fwd average in the comp.

Makes him a elite forward bench option though.



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 10:36:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 21, 2017, 01:57:33 PM

Jack Graham

Might be easier to post this here rather than hitting up ppl individually

Dan Hannebery could be moved for something involving the following boys

Only 26 years old and before this year had gone 113 and 113. So a huge captain option

Durable as hell as well. With the exception to 2014 he has played 21, 22, 22, 21, 22, 22, 19 and 7(his debut year)


Docherty
JKelly
BTB Crouch
Sloane
Merrett
Fyfe
TAdams
Macrae
Bont
Treloar
Beams
Ward
Heppell
Parker
Cripps
Rockliff

Hit me up if keen to discuss
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 10:40:06 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 10:36:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 21, 2017, 01:57:33 PM

Jack Graham

Might be easier to post this here rather than hitting up ppl individually

Dan Hannebery could be moved for something involving the following boys

Only 26 years old and before this year had gone 113 and 113. So a huge captain option

Durable as hell as well. With the exception to 2014 he has played 21, 22, 22, 21, 22, 22, 19 and 7(his debut year)


Docherty
JKelly
BTB Crouch
Sloane
Merrett
Fyfe
TAdams
Macrae
Bont
Treloar
Beams
Ward
Heppell
Parker
Cripps
Rockliff

Hit me up if keen to discuss

How did Dmart still not make the list.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 10:40:06 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 10:36:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 21, 2017, 01:57:33 PM

Jack Graham

Might be easier to post this here rather than hitting up ppl individually

Dan Hannebery could be moved for something involving the following boys

Only 26 years old and before this year had gone 113 and 113. So a huge captain option

Durable as hell as well. With the exception to 2014 he has played 21, 22, 22, 21, 22, 22, 19 and 7(his debut year)


Docherty
JKelly
BTB Crouch
Sloane
Merrett
Fyfe
TAdams
Macrae
Bont
Treloar
Beams
Ward
Heppell
Parker
Cripps
Rockliff

Hit me up if keen to discuss

How did Dmart still not make the list.
Because he's pie
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 11:21:12 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 10:40:06 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 10:36:26 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 21, 2017, 01:57:33 PM

Jack Graham

Might be easier to post this here rather than hitting up ppl individually

Dan Hannebery could be moved for something involving the following boys

Only 26 years old and before this year had gone 113 and 113. So a huge captain option

Durable as hell as well. With the exception to 2014 he has played 21, 22, 22, 21, 22, 22, 19 and 7(his debut year)


Docherty
JKelly
BTB Crouch
Sloane
Merrett
Fyfe
TAdams
Macrae
Bont
Treloar
Beams
Ward
Heppell
Parker
Cripps
Rockliff

Hit me up if keen to discuss

How did Dmart still not make the list.
Because he's pie

PremIErship Captain
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Freo apparently have Sam Hayes firmly on their radar with their pick 5.

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/fremantle-dockers-recruiters-target-athletic-victorian-ruckman-with-first-pick-20171002-gyskay.html (http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/fremantle-dockers-recruiters-target-athletic-victorian-ruckman-with-first-pick-20171002-gyskay.html)

"Fremantle have set their sights on rising Victorian forward Sam Hayes as a top priority draft selection next month.

The impressive big forward is firmly on the Dockers recruiting radar as a potential solution to the club's scoring woes and to offer long-term ruck support to big on-baller Sean Darcy."


Could be a great pick up in the draft for any WXV coach. Probably a F/R only issue is it looks like he might be sharring ruck Duties with apparent MVP Sean Darcy.

Meow could be on the lookout for a solid ruck still. Watch this space.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Freo apparently have Sam Hayes firmly on their radar with their pick 5.

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/fremantle-dockers-recruiters-target-athletic-victorian-ruckman-with-first-pick-20171002-gyskay.html (http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/fremantle-dockers-recruiters-target-athletic-victorian-ruckman-with-first-pick-20171002-gyskay.html)

"Fremantle have set their sights on rising Victorian forward Sam Hayes as a top priority draft selection next month.

The impressive big forward is firmly on the Dockers recruiting radar as a potential solution to the club's scoring woes and to offer long-term ruck support to big on-baller Sean Darcy."


Could be a great pick up in the draft for any WXV coach. Probably a F/R only issue is it looks like he might be sharring ruck Duties with apparent MVP Sean Darcy.

Meow could be on the lookout for a solid ruck still. Watch this space.
Brisbane's #1 ruck next year
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Freo apparently have Sam Hayes firmly on their radar with their pick 5.

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/fremantle-dockers-recruiters-target-athletic-victorian-ruckman-with-first-pick-20171002-gyskay.html (http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/fremantle-dockers-recruiters-target-athletic-victorian-ruckman-with-first-pick-20171002-gyskay.html)

"Fremantle have set their sights on rising Victorian forward Sam Hayes as a top priority draft selection next month.

The impressive big forward is firmly on the Dockers recruiting radar as a potential solution to the club's scoring woes and to offer long-term ruck support to big on-baller Sean Darcy."


Could be a great pick up in the draft for any WXV coach. Probably a F/R only issue is it looks like he might be sharring ruck Duties with apparent MVP Sean Darcy.

Meow could be on the lookout for a solid ruck still. Watch this space.
Brisbane's #1 ruck next year

Nah thats McInnerny.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Meow could be on the lookout for a solid ruck still. Watch this space.

Darcy is about as solid as they come at 108kg.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Freo apparently have Sam Hayes firmly on their radar with their pick 5.

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/fremantle-dockers-recruiters-target-athletic-victorian-ruckman-with-first-pick-20171002-gyskay.html (http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/fremantle-dockers-recruiters-target-athletic-victorian-ruckman-with-first-pick-20171002-gyskay.html)

"Fremantle have set their sights on rising Victorian forward Sam Hayes as a top priority draft selection next month.

The impressive big forward is firmly on the Dockers recruiting radar as a potential solution to the club's scoring woes and to offer long-term ruck support to big on-baller Sean Darcy."


Could be a great pick up in the draft for any WXV coach. Probably a F/R only issue is it looks like he might be sharring ruck Duties with apparent MVP Sean Darcy.

Meow could be on the lookout for a solid ruck still. Watch this space.
Brisbane's #1 ruck next year

Nah thats McInnerny.
Nah it's Stef

I mean Archie

Or is it Eagles

Rocky was going to be but he's leaving

Maybe Lewis Taylor will be
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on October 03, 2017, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 03, 2017, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Freo apparently have Sam Hayes firmly on their radar with their pick 5.

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/fremantle-dockers-recruiters-target-athletic-victorian-ruckman-with-first-pick-20171002-gyskay.html (http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/fremantle-dockers-recruiters-target-athletic-victorian-ruckman-with-first-pick-20171002-gyskay.html)

"Fremantle have set their sights on rising Victorian forward Sam Hayes as a top priority draft selection next month.

The impressive big forward is firmly on the Dockers recruiting radar as a potential solution to the club's scoring woes and to offer long-term ruck support to big on-baller Sean Darcy."


Could be a great pick up in the draft for any WXV coach. Probably a F/R only issue is it looks like he might be sharring ruck Duties with apparent MVP Sean Darcy.

Meow could be on the lookout for a solid ruck still. Watch this space.
Brisbane's #1 ruck next year

Nah thats McInnerny.
Nah it's Stef

I mean Archie

Or is it Eagles

Rocky was going to be but he's leaving

Maybe Lewis Taylor will be
And Squizz could be yours! Starting price is a 100+ mid, get your offers in quicklyyyy
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Meow could be on the lookout for a solid ruck still. Watch this space.

Darcy is about as solid as they come at 108kg.

I think he is actually 111kg.

Darcy the poor mans Preuss.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 03:44:39 PM
James Stewart available for a pick or upgrade (player or pick). Showed a bit this year, still young, another preseason etc may see him develop into F4 quality or if that's not the case he will still be handy depth when injury hits, as it tends to do.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Meow could be on the lookout for a solid ruck still. Watch this space.

Darcy is about as solid as they come at 108kg.

I think he is actually 111kg.

Darcy the poor mans Preuss.

Straight swap?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 03, 2017, 03:55:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 03, 2017, 11:37:35 AM
Meow could be on the lookout for a solid ruck still. Watch this space.

Darcy is about as solid as they come at 108kg.

I think he is actually 111kg.

Darcy the poor mans Preuss.

Straight swap?

No way.

111 and 87 in the games where he was rucking alone or with a severly hampered Goldy. Tiny sample size but i read loads and loads of reports and everything is looking like he will be the long term ruck at North. Absolutely no talk that we are looking elsewhere either.

He also should be a F/R too.

Sean Darcy looks very good too and of course is very young so shown heaps. Not convinced they are ready to hand him the keys or at least are looking at a ruck combo thing. Its looking like Preuss will be handed the Keys, he pushed out a healthy Goldy. Darcy was only playing as Sandi was injured.

Ths isnt talking Darcy down this is talking Preuss up.

Preuss is not for sale.


Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 08:08:21 PM
I think you should all focus on rebuilding since Christchurch is going to dominate next year. We lost 4 of our best XV to retirement, and traded our one good captain option but it's not even going to hurt.



Leigh Montagna
Jarrad McVeigh
Jake Lever
Robert Murphy
Bryce Gibbs
Sam Mitchell
Connor Blakely
Will Hoskin-Elliott   
Aaron Sandilands
Shaun Higgins
Jack Steele
Toby McLean
Jarrad Waite
Ryan Lester
Drew Petrie
89.5
82.7
79
76.6
204.8
94.1
89.2
81.3
87.3
91.9
91.1
85.5
82.1
79
78.9
1393             
Connor Blakely
Jarrad McVeigh
Tom Langdon
Nathan Wilson
Shaun Higgins
Jack Steele
Tom Scully
Jack Redden
Aaron Sandilands
Daniel Wells
Sam Petrevski-Seton     
Toby McLean
Jarrad Waite
Thomas Liberatore
Chris Masten
89.2
82.7
82.1
75.9
183.8
91.1
88.1
79.6
87.3
71.1
67.6
85.5
82.1
79.1
73.5
1318.7

Look out!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 03, 2017, 08:19:02 PM
With 3 teams to vote

London Royals
Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders

The following trades have not received a vote, so will auto-pass

Trade 58
Pacific trade: Matthew Leuenberger + Michael Rischitelli  
Pacific receive: Daniel Currie + Pick 80

Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 33 + Pick 80
Rio de Janeiro receive: Matthew Leuenberger  

Buenos Aires trade: Daniel Currie
Buenos Aires receive: Michael Rischitelli + Pick 33

Trade 60
Christchurch trade: Pick 43
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 48 + Pick 49

Trade 61
New Delhi trade: Pick 26
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 30 + Pick 42

Trade 62
New York trade: Pick 50 + Rookie Pick 32
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 63, Pick 66, Pick 73 + Pre-Season Draft Pick 29

Trade 63
Toronto trade: Pick 81, Pre-Season Draft Pick 31 + Rookie Pick 13
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pre-Season Draft 11 + Rookie Pick 47

Trade 64
Cape Town trade: Pick 77
Pacific trade: Rookie Pick 15

Trade 65
Toronto trade: Pick 68
Christchurch trade: Pick 84 + Pre-Season Draft Pick 7

Trade 66
Christchurch trade: Rookie Pick 7
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 81 + Rookie Pick 29
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 03, 2017, 08:29:51 PM
Actually, this trade is rejected

Trade 65
Toronto trade: Pick 68
Christchurch trade: Pick 84 + Pre-Season Draft Pick 7

It's blatantly unfair, and I won't have it.

... and Christchurch doesn't have PSD Pick 7 to trade, given they traded it for Chris Mayne
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 08:35:52 PM
Anyone want nat 1 and 2? Willing to trade both for a premo mid.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on October 03, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 03, 2017, 08:29:51 PM
Actually, this trade is rejected

Trade 65
Toronto trade: Pick 68
Christchurch trade: Pick 84 + Pre-Season Draft Pick 7

It's blatantly unfair, and I won't have it.

... and Christchurch doesn't have PSD Pick 7 to trade, given they traded it for Chris Mayne

I swear, if we're left stranded on 99 trades...
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on October 03, 2017, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 03, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 03, 2017, 08:29:51 PM
Actually, this trade is rejected

Trade 65
Toronto trade: Pick 68
Christchurch trade: Pick 84 + Pre-Season Draft Pick 7

It's blatantly unfair, and I won't have it.

... and Christchurch doesn't have PSD Pick 7 to trade, given they traded it for Chris Mayne

I swear, if we're left stranded on 99 trades...
We have the technology to send Purps on a one way ticket to Mars.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 09:02:55 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 03, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 03, 2017, 08:29:51 PM
Actually, this trade is rejected

Trade 65
Toronto trade: Pick 68
Christchurch trade: Pick 84 + Pre-Season Draft Pick 7

It's blatantly unfair, and I won't have it.

... and Christchurch doesn't have PSD Pick 7 to trade, given they traded it for Chris Mayne

I swear, if we're left stranded on 99 trades...

It still counts as a trade. Just not an approved one.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on October 03, 2017, 09:06:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 09:02:55 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 03, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 03, 2017, 08:29:51 PM
Actually, this trade is rejected

Trade 65
Toronto trade: Pick 68
Christchurch trade: Pick 84 + Pre-Season Draft Pick 7

It's blatantly unfair, and I won't have it.

... and Christchurch doesn't have PSD Pick 7 to trade, given they traded it for Chris Mayne

I swear, if we're left stranded on 99 trades...

It still counts as a trade. Just not an approved one.

hahah so true, we can get 100 easy then! Nige and i are on it :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 03, 2017, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 03, 2017, 09:02:55 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 03, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 03, 2017, 08:29:51 PM
Actually, this trade is rejected

Trade 65
Toronto trade: Pick 68
Christchurch trade: Pick 84 + Pre-Season Draft Pick 7

It's blatantly unfair, and I won't have it.

... and Christchurch doesn't have PSD Pick 7 to trade, given they traded it for Chris Mayne

I swear, if we're left stranded on 99 trades...

It still counts as a trade. Just not an approved one.

I removed it entirely :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 10:25:10 AM
With all votes in except Moscow (who is still required to vote)...

... all trades auto-pass :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Actually, this trade is rejected

Trade 62
New York trade: Pick 50 + Rookie Pick 32
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 63, Pick 66, Pick 73 + PSD Pick 29

Rio don't have Pick 63 to give.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 04:07:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 01, 2017, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 20, 2017, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 11, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 09, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2017, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Actually, this trade is rejected

Trade 62
New York trade: Pick 50 + Rookie Pick 32
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 63, Pick 66, Pick 73 + PSD Pick 29

Rio don't have Pick 63 to give.

Levi  ::)

All good, turns out we don't need the extra picks anyway so that error has worked out nicely as we keep N50 :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on October 05, 2017, 12:45:51 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 04, 2017, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Actually, this trade is rejected

Trade 62
New York trade: Pick 50 + Rookie Pick 32
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 63, Pick 66, Pick 73 + PSD Pick 29

Rio don't have Pick 63 to give.

Levi  ::)

All good, turns out we don't need the extra picks anyway so that error has worked out nicely as we keep N50 :)

This is what happens when you are arranging 17 trades at once...
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 05, 2017, 08:14:04 PM
Undoubted talent.

New club... fresh start.

Basketball background...

QuoteBasketball was the first sport to see his rare talent.

He was so good at basketball, that other parents would complain that he was too good for his age group.

Donna: “When he was an eight-year old, parents were writing letters, saying he shouldn’t be allowed to play under-12s, he should be playing under-14s.’’

It wasn’t so much his size but his ability.

In that under-12 team, John coached his boy into the Grand Final. The team shot 58 points and Stringer shot 52 of them. “This was from an eight-year old,’’ John said.

Get your offers in now.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2017, 07:47:19 PM
166 DT points in just his second game shows the potential of the lad.

Just turned 20.

Ball magnet at every level he's played at, hasn't reached that status at AFL level just yet but already has multiple 30+ games in his 15 matches. 9 out of 15 matches with 20+ touches so far. All as a skinny teenager. Some dirty games in there that'll disappear as he gets more experience. A sure thing to average 25+ touches in time.

Would entertain offers of a good pick or picks for Fiorini. Always willing to be flexible and negotiate other options too.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 07, 2017, 08:08:19 PM
TAC Cup averages. 30.7 possessions 130.3 DT. The most of any player in that comp that year

NEAFL averages in season one. 30.2 disposals, 4.2 tackles, 2.25 goals and 129.8 DT points

AFL averages when he'll be just 22 years old in 2020. 30.0 disposals, 128 DT, 108 SC
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2017, 05:18:26 PM
31 + James Stewart available for an earlier pick
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2017, 05:21:40 PM
Same goes for Kyle Langford
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2017, 05:41:10 PM
(C)onnor available

Higgins for a pick. NM's best and fairest, 92 average mid

Redden available

Scully available
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2017, 05:48:57 PM
6   100
7   108
8   103
9   130
10   98
11   114
12   74
13   -
14   115
15   -
16   129
17   121
18   119


Decided to become gun after 5 mediocre rounds. Averaged 110.1 from then onwards before the shoulder injury.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 09:39:41 AM
(C)onnor going so I'll need a defender thanks peeps
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 10, 2017, 10:49:33 AM
Mullett officially delisted

Hopefully gets picked up, for GL's sake
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
Connor, Higgo, 4, 5, 35, 49 could be out the door in a franchise defining day if all goes to plan. Just need 4 teams to come to the party.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 02:19:17 PM
One team looks like they want to party. One team isn't sure if they want to party, go to a different party or not party at all. One team hasn't seen their invite to the party while one other team is just a party pooper.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2017, 09:59:50 PM
Party time!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2017, 10:23:08 PM
Gary is the only (c)aptain meow needs
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 11, 2017, 10:19:38 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2017, 10:23:08 PM
Gary is the only (c)aptain meow needs

what about the other 18 rounds when he is out injured?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 11, 2017, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 11, 2017, 10:19:38 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 10, 2017, 10:23:08 PM
Gary is the only (c)aptain meow needs

what about the other 18 rounds when he is out injured?

(C)ompo!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 11, 2017, 08:34:16 PM
These teams still to vote

Moscow Spetsnaz
PNL Reindeers
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Seoul Magpies
Tokyo Samurai
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2017, 09:27:45 AM
With two teams still to vote (Seoul, Moscow), these trades will auto-pass regardless:

Trade 67
Pacific trade: Andy Otten + Pick 15
PNL trade: Pick 14 + Pick 51

Trade 68
Christchurch trade: Pick 6 + Pick 19
Moscow trade: Pick 5, Pick 31 + Pick 35

Trade 69
Christchurch trade: Chris Masten
Buenos Aires trade: Michael Rischitelli

Trade 70
Mexico City trade: Elliot Himmelberg + Pre-Season Pick 8
Dublin trade: Henry Schade, Rookie Pick 18 + Rookie Pick 36

Trade 71
Christchurch trade: Lee Spurr + Pick 35
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 33
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2017, 01:17:12 PM
Remember that one time when a few of Levi's trades were ripped apart and his coaching moves were being questioned, then he told everyone to get flowered and won the premiership? Don't stir the beast.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 12, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
Although attracting 3 votes, the last trade auto-passes amongst fears that Rio was giving too much.

Trade 72
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 4 + Pick 26
Christchurch trade: Brayden Fiorini + Isaac Cumming


So all trades pass!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 12, 2017, 02:12:32 PM
When democracy fails.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2017, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 12, 2017, 02:12:32 PM
When democracy fails.

Yeah you trading Slim Shady who got delisted immediately after is a little suss, but what can you do?!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2017, 06:26:37 PM
Combinations involving some of 4 + 5 + 11 + 20 have been offered around lately. If you want in on this action then speak up now. Picks 4 and 5 together could set up your future. 5 + 11 + 20 is nothing to be sneezed at either. As always I'm willing to be flexible for the right deal too so adding players is also an option.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on October 12, 2017, 08:33:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 12, 2017, 01:17:12 PM
Remember that one time when a few of Levi's trades were ripped apart and his coaching moves were being questioned, then he told everyone to get flowered and won the premiership? Don't stir the beast.

Hmmm...
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on October 12, 2017, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 12, 2017, 08:33:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 12, 2017, 01:17:12 PM
Remember that one time when a few of Levi's trades were ripped apart and his coaching moves were being questioned, then he told everyone to get flowered and won the premiership? Don't stir the beast.

Hmmm...

See, i remember it as, a heap of levis trades got rejected and he won the premiership...
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on October 12, 2017, 08:40:15 PM
Link:

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104106.msg1676352.html#msg1676352
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on October 13, 2017, 12:51:36 AM
Kade Kolodjashnij on the table. Been offered a few decent offers. Not overly keen on moving him but if I get a good deal then I shall.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 14, 2017, 10:47:31 AM
Marc Murphy with his huge 108ave + a decent kid like Broomhead/Knight/Oxley/etc on the table for a slightly younger mid
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 14, 2017, 01:11:52 PM
We might be able to move on some of our starters who are 30+ but still have at least 2 years so you'll get plenty out of them

Jordan Lewis and Eddie Betts are available, and just wanting younger/lesser average players in return who are best 22 for their sides and mid or fwd
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on October 14, 2017, 07:29:53 PM
2MP, Jade Gresham, Harley Balic, Jimmy Webster, Tom Cole. Lots of youth up for grabs at Toronto for teams who are rebuilding or just wouldn't mind hedging their bets in a 2 for 1 deal.

That's right, I'm just looking for one 75+ midfielder or mid/fwd with upside that could potentially start on the interchange (the older they are, the higher the average). I'd also consider taking a player that averages less if I like them.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 15, 2017, 07:04:26 PM
From our older guys Broadbent is the only one left basically. Apart form this year where he had a few injuries and couldn't find that continuity, been a very solid defender for the last few years

2012    22    84.5
2013    22    79.5
2014    22    82.0
2015    21    83.3
2016    21    85.4

GHS and the Cannon Mckenzie also others that could be moved
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 01:05:24 PM
Gonna have to not accept that 534 word explanation neg. Not enough detail.

Sorry coach, I just had to mention it :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2017, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 01:05:24 PM
Gonna have to not accept that 534 word explanation neg. Not enough detail.

Sorry coach, I just had to mention it :P

534 word neg? Ha, that's passion!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 01:30:08 PM
Better late than never!

Quote from: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 04:07:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 01, 2017, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 20, 2017, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 11, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 09, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 16, 2017, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2017, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 01:05:24 PM
Gonna have to not accept that 534 word explanation neg. Not enough detail.

Sorry coach, I just had to mention it :P

534 word neg? Ha, that's passion!

in shocking news I dont think its me.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 16, 2017, 01:40:56 PM
That's not just passion, it's pure hatred!  ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 01:42:15 PM
Na na, it was really good :) very informative, neutral and objective.

It's just at first glance, I thought they negged nearly every trade haha
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 01:51:17 PM
Will use this as an opportunity to remind people to keep etiquette in mind...

Just received notification that - in one of the pending trades - a coach hadn't replied to two PMs regarding a valuable trade component, and traded it anyway.

Luckily for that trade, the coach has told me not to follow it up. Otherwise, I certainly would be blocking that trade.

I really hope this coach knows who they are. Even if you read an offer, and decide that it's not something you want to do, you still owe the courtesy of actually replying to the offer, and I will come down on you for it. It's not fair on the coach that you dealt with, or the one you ignored. Lift your game.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2017, 01:55:42 PM
Was it me? I send out 100 offers at once and it's difficult to keep track of them.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2017, 01:57:28 PM
Kyle Langford probably going for a pick.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
Everyone neg the GAJ trade immediately. Neale leaving for GC means (C)onnor will become a top 10 player for the next decade.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 16, 2017, 02:06:02 PM
Weller... Neale. Close enough.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 02:41:19 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 16, 2017, 02:06:02 PM
Weller... Neale. Close enough.

Was gonna say :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 16, 2017, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 16, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
Everyone neg the GAJ trade immediately. Neale leaving for GC means (C)onnor will become a top 10 player for the next decade.

i reckon Blakely will be a top 10 player at Freo regardless. The kid is ok.



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 06:23:31 PM
Wow, just 4 coaches left to vote already! Come on, give me a record auto-pass time...
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 06:54:50 PM
In a touch over 8 hours, we have 3 teams left to vote:

London Royals
New Delhi Tigers
PNL Reindeers

Meaning these trades, which have so far received 0 votes, will auto-pass:

Trade 73
Christchurch trade: Shaun Higgins + Pick 49
New York trade: Heath Shaw + Lewis Young

Trade 74
Toronto trade: Gary Ablett Jnr, Pick 11 + Pick 20
Christchurch trade: Connor Blakely

Trade 75
Pacific trade:  Pick 77 + Pick 80
Toronto trade:  Pick 68

Trade 78
Toronto trade: Lachie Hunter, Lewis Jetta, Danyle Pearce + Tyson Goldsack
Mexico City trade: David Zaharakis, Pick 16 , Pick 68 + PSD Pick 26
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on October 16, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
(C)onnor.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 08:28:43 PM
2 teams to go, meaning these trades will now auto-pass

Trade 76
Dublin trade: Ben Crocker
Berlin trade: Mark LeCras

Trade 79
Toronto trade: David Zaharakis, Shane Savage, Mitch Robinson, Bailey Rice + Brandon White
Cairo trade: Aaron Hall, Jack Newnes, Jade Gresham, Pick 61 + Pick 79

Trade 80
London trade: Pick 3 + Pick 22
Christchurch trade: Pick 5 + Pick 11
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 08:45:40 PM
Note, just decided on the finish date of this trade period:

QuoteFinish date: 11:59:59 PM AEDST, November 17

Which is a Friday night. This is 1 week before the AFL national draft, which will hopefully give us time to confirm the trades, and also confirm re-negotiated trades if applicable.

The AFL final list lodgement is November 29, 2pm... but normally some random players keep filtering through for a few days after.

The EARLIEST that the WXV International draft will take place, is 9 am, AEDST, November 30. However, this will not start until all teams have submitted their list lodgement, and I have processed them all.

So yeah, that's our general schedule for the next 6 or so weeks  :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on October 17, 2017, 12:40:41 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 08:45:40 PM
but normally some random players keep filtering through for a few days after.

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/WesternBulldogs/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/TWEEDIE%20Tristan.png)

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2017, 09:50:54 AM
lol, accidentally hit modify instead of quote in your post sorry FTC :P

Now, back to my rebuttal:

Quote from: fanTCfool on October 17, 2017, 12:40:41 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 08:45:40 PM
but normally some random players keep filtering through for a few days after.

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/WesternBulldogs/Player%20Profiles/2017%20-%20Profiles/TWEEDIE%20Tristan.png)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41x8JsPOsML._SY450_.jpg)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2017, 10:03:19 AM
All votes in!

This is the last pending trade:

Trade 77
Mexico City trade: Tom Rockliff + Luke Breust
Mexico City receive: Christian Petracca, Tim O'Brien, Jordan Murdoch, Pick 14 + Pick 68

Beijing trade: Josh Jenkins, Christian Petracca + Tim O'Brien
Beijing receive: Tom Rockliff + Luke Breust

Pacific trade: Jordan Murdoch, Pick 14 + Pick 68
Pacific receive: Josh Jenkins

... which received 4 votes. Some coaches felt Pacific were overpaying for Jenkins, Beijing were winning by too much, and that compared to the last failed Rocky trade, Mexico City were giving up more and receiving less.

The trade has passed, but I can overturn it if I want to. Unfortunately, a lot of the inbalance in this trade according to the negs is Petracca's value compared to Rocky... it's unfortunate, because, I am who I am. Petracca's potential is obvious, and has shown every sign that he will achieve it. Whether that is a 90 avg forward, or if he develops a tank and goes 100+ in the mid, time will tell. But I certainly don't think the trade is so unbalanced that it warrants me changing the decision. In regards to Pacific, the numbers suggest they could be overpaying, but there is a noteable difference in scoring and job security between Jenkins & Murdoch. Whether that difference is worth a first rounder, that's arguable, but again, I don't think it's enough to overturn the decision.

The trade passes.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2017, 10:24:06 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 16, 2017, 01:30:08 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 04, 2017, 04:07:38 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 01, 2017, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 20, 2017, 08:18:56 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 16, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 11, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 09, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2017, 12:29:13 PM
The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on October 17, 2017, 01:18:50 PM
Not that it matters now, but just a little input - I gave up essentially two top 10 picks (N9 + Scrimshaw) for Taylor Walker (86 avg). So think Jenkins (84 avg without injury game and only one year older) for N14 is reasonable based on that.

Anyways, new era at Beijing welcoming ROCKY! Might have to change my DP :P

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
I'll take your DP Toga  :P

Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on October 17, 2017, 01:31:35 PM
It's all yours (with courtesy of Levi!)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/ezrafc.jpg)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 17, 2017, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?

Ha.

Need I say more? :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
I'll take your DP Toga  :P

Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?

Rockliff
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2017, 02:38:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
I'll take your DP Toga  :P

Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?

Rockliff
^

But Thor/Weits/Wood > Petracca
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2017, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
I'll take your DP Toga  :P

Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?

Rockliff

Rocky > Petracca > Weitering
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 17, 2017, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2017, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
I'll take your DP Toga  :P

Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?

Rockliff

Rocky > Petracca > Weitering

just weits or all 3?

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 06:01:04 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2017, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
I'll take your DP Toga  :P

Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?

Rockliff

Rocky > Petracca > Weitering

Gibbs > Rocky > Petracca > Weitering
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 17, 2017, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 06:01:04 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2017, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
I'll take your DP Toga  :P

Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?

Rockliff

Rocky > Petracca > Weitering

Gibbs > Rocky > Petracca > Weitering
Sicily > Rocky > Gibbs > Petracca > Weitering
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on October 17, 2017, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 06:01:04 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2017, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
I'll take your DP Toga  :P

Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?

Rockliff

Rocky > Petracca > Weitering

Gibbs > Rocky > Petracca > Weitering
Sicily > Rocky > Gibbs > Petracca > Weitering
Papsmear > all
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 06:13:25 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 06:01:04 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2017, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
I'll take your DP Toga  :P

Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?

Rockliff

Rocky > Petracca > Weitering

Gibbs > Rocky > Petracca > Weitering
Sicily > Rocky > Gibbs > Petracca > Weitering

McKernan > Jed Anderson > Garlett > Lester > Wilson > Vardy > Gibbs > Sicily > Rocky > Petracca > Weitering
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
Paddy dow > everyone
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on October 17, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 17, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
Paddy dow > everyone
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on October 17, 2017, 08:02:07 PM
meow will eventually move up to pick 2. He loves them.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on October 17, 2017, 08:03:56 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 06:13:25 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 06:01:04 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 17, 2017, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 17, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
I'll take your DP Toga  :P

Just out of curiosity to the coaches, who would you prefer Petracca or Weitering, Greenwood and Mason Wood?

Rockliff

Rocky > Petracca > Weitering

Gibbs > Rocky > Petracca > Weitering
Sicily > Rocky > Gibbs > Petracca > Weitering

McKernan > Jed Anderson > Garlett > Lester > Wilson > Vardy > Gibbs > Sicily > Rocky > Petracca > Weitering

I wonder who has both of these jets?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on October 17, 2017, 09:13:17 PM
Former WXV Pick 12 Jade Gresham potentially on the move again. Averaged 66.3 (71.5 after the bye) in his second season playing as a small forward, imagine what he'll do when he gets a little bit of time inside! He's only had two games above 20 disposals in his 40 game career so there's a lot of upside there. Finished 8th in the Saints B&F so he can play a bit.

The asking price is an 80-85 mid no older than 26yo. Can always make it a bigger deal if need be.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 18, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
Am looking to package a few players up for one, as I currently don't have too many list spots

Could package up guys like: Matthew Broadbent, Anthony Miles, Sam Wright, Trent McKenzie, GHS, Lewis Melican, Jordan Murdoch, Ryan Schoenmakers, Tyrone Vickery, Daniel Robinson, Jordan Cunico, James Rose, Mitchell Lewis, Nathan Wright, Dylan Buckley

WHile also could move on one or two of these cap spuds Lewis Jetta, Jarryn Geary, Tyson Goldsack, Danyle Pearce, Jarryd Blair
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 18, 2017, 06:18:45 PM
Whoops forgot to mention also looking to upgrade my picks 12, 14, 24, 27, 34 to slightly better ones
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 18, 2017, 08:02:34 PM
Wigg to become an 80+ defender now. Compo.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 18, 2017, 08:08:22 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 18, 2017, 08:02:34 PM
Wigg to become an 80+ defender now. Compo.
The real compo should come from Gibbs when he averages 150 at Adelaide
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 18, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
I asked for Wigg every year since he was draft and could never get him off meow

Now he should blossom and produce like many of us think he can

Gibbs 150 would be nice too ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 18, 2017, 10:03:46 PM
Ada locked in for 2018 coach of the year!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 19, 2017, 09:42:14 AM
We need to increase our list size by 2, so if anyone can give up 3 junk picks for 1 please let me know

NAT or PSD picks needed
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 02:25:23 PM
A reminder, that the 2017 Christchurch Draft will be held no earlier than the 30th of November :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2017, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 02:25:23 PM
A reminder, that the 2017 Christchurch Draft will be held no earlier than the 30th of November :)

Mitchell, Petrie, Montagna, Dempster with Waite, Wells, McVeigh, Sandilands and Griffen soon. Needs to be done.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
Yeah so... Shane Mumford has retired. :'( Rory Lobb will be rucking for the Giants next season, but he'll probably still be F only next year which means we're gonna need a ruck.

Potentially could even package up all of Lobb, Simpson and Flynn if it helps.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2017, 02:48:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
Yeah so... Shane Mumford has retired. :'( Rory Lobb will be rucking for the Giants next season, but he'll probably still be F only next year which means we're gonna need a ruck.

Potentially could even package up all of Lobb, Simpson and Flynn if it helps.

Lobb will get R status

Surely CD show common sense - can't have a team without a Ruck, and Simpson doesn't count

I reckon you'll be fiine - Lobb will get R/F
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2017, 02:51:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2017, 02:48:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
Yeah so... Shane Mumford has retired. :'( Rory Lobb will be rucking for the Giants next season, but he'll probably still be F only next year which means we're gonna need a ruck.

Potentially could even package up all of Lobb, Simpson and Flynn if it helps.

Lobb will get R status

Surely CD show common sense - can't have a team without a Ruck, and Simpson doesn't count

I reckon you'll be fiine - Lobb will get R/F
Well, this is the hope.

But I was thinking we could maybe prepare for worst case scenario.  :'(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 20, 2017, 03:07:27 PM
You can have Sandi for Lobb
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 20, 2017, 03:12:23 PM
You can have Spencer when he goes to somewhere like Port :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2017, 03:13:02 PM
Tippett can move for the right offer ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 20, 2017, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2017, 02:48:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
Yeah so... Shane Mumford has retired. :'( Rory Lobb will be rucking for the Giants next season, but he'll probably still be F only next year which means we're gonna need a ruck.

Potentially could even package up all of Lobb, Simpson and Flynn if it helps.

Lobb will get R status

Surely CD show common sense - can't have a team without a Ruck, and Simpson doesn't count

I reckon you'll be fiine - Lobb will get R/F
Will he? He only really played ruck those last two finals. Wasn't it like you had to spend 35% time in a certain position to get DPP?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on October 20, 2017, 03:56:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2017, 02:48:08 PM
fiine
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2017, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 20, 2017, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2017, 02:48:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
Yeah so... Shane Mumford has retired. :'( Rory Lobb will be rucking for the Giants next season, but he'll probably still be F only next year which means we're gonna need a ruck.

Potentially could even package up all of Lobb, Simpson and Flynn if it helps.

Lobb will get R status

Surely CD show common sense - can't have a team without a Ruck, and Simpson doesn't count

I reckon you'll be fiine - Lobb will get R/F
Will he? He only really played ruck those last two finals. Wasn't it like you had to spend 35% time in a certain position to get DPP?

You would think common sense prevails

They know Lobb will be the Ruck now with Mummy retiring, so it would be pretty retarded to make him Fwd only and then have Dawson as the only GWS ruck
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 20, 2017, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2017, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 20, 2017, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2017, 02:48:08 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 20, 2017, 02:00:53 PM
Yeah so... Shane Mumford has retired. :'( Rory Lobb will be rucking for the Giants next season, but he'll probably still be F only next year which means we're gonna need a ruck.

Potentially could even package up all of Lobb, Simpson and Flynn if it helps.

Lobb will get R status

Surely CD show common sense - can't have a team without a Ruck, and Simpson doesn't count

I reckon you'll be fiine - Lobb will get R/F
Will he? He only really played ruck those last two finals. Wasn't it like you had to spend 35% time in a certain position to get DPP?

You would think common sense prevails

They know Lobb will be the Ruck now with Mummy retiring, so it would be pretty retarded to make him Fwd only and then have Dawson as the only GWS ruck
I'm with you haha they should but common sense isn't always used  ::)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 20, 2017, 04:49:56 PM
Besides first year rookies have they ever changed positions based on common sense? Blicavs is the only one i can think of but he hadn't played a game yet
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on October 20, 2017, 04:59:56 PM
Not so much common sense, but I recall Sam Gilbert getting forward status for 2011 after playing up forward and kicking 2 goals in the 2010 GF (his only game playing forward) which was pretty mind boggling.

I don't see Lobb getting ruck status however.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 20, 2017, 05:13:46 PM
Lobb had 11/17 games where he had 10+ HO's

Mostly in the teens except the last 2 games where he was solo and went 30+, but I reckon he will get F/R

Just in case he doesn't though, Tippett is about the best ruck option you have :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 20, 2017, 05:17:54 PM
If people need fwds hit me up. I have 6 premos.

Gunston is the only guy who wont move.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on October 21, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
List size is looking huge so happy to do a few package deals, happy to look at players or picks or a combination
Heres a list of players that can be traded

Def: S Biggs (WB), M Adams (WB), S Atley (NM), R Bonner (Port), L Spurr (Freo), J Scrimshaw (GC), S Wellingham (WC), J Wagner (Melb), J Joyce (GC), J Leslie (GC), M Hartley (Ess), S Skinner (Bris), T Gorter (WC), T Mohr (GWS), M Spencer (GC)

Mid: L Parker (Syd), E Curnow (Carl), K Stevens (StK), T Dumont (NM), J Berry (Bris), C Masten (WC), J Atley (Port), C Hanley (Bris), J Long (Ess), C Polson (Carl)

Ruck: T Nicholls (GC), R O'Brien (Adel), K Brooksby (GC), S Draper (Ess)

Fwd: J Elliott (Coll), C Hooker (Ess), S Edwards (Rich), W Hayward (Syd), J Simpkin (NM), O Florent (Syd), H Ballantyne (Freo), J Green (Ess), R Bewick (Bris), H McKay (Carl), M Brown (Ess), L Thomas (NM), J Neade (Port), J Dawson (Syd), C Moore (Rich), M Taylor (NM)
Picks 9, 13, 21, 23, 31, 35, PSD19

- There is very few players/picks not on this list but if they are please dont ask about them :)

- Cannot under any circumstance do a deal that reduces cap at the moment, this also includes a deal that would give me 6 200k spuds to make up for 1 player who has 600k cap, this is not equal to me.

- If it increases my cap that would also be great!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2017, 12:10:11 PM
I'll help you reduce list size Zander, and for free too

Jordan Dawson is a NDTer :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on October 21, 2017, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2017, 12:10:11 PM
I'll help you reduce list size Zander, and for free too

Jordan Dawson is a NDTer :P

haha yeah i know that, just copied and pasted the list from adas team list :P Hes not counted on cap list size though
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 01:23:03 PM
So does Gary jnr get fwd status for 2018 if Lobb is a ruck?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2017, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 01:23:03 PM
So does Gary jnr get fwd status for 2018 if Lobb is a ruck?

Apples and Oranges

The only reason I am of the belief Lobb will get ruck is because CD have to assign at least 1 ruck to every team, and with Mummy now gone it makes complete sense that Lobb will be the ruck in SC for GWS

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on October 21, 2017, 02:47:53 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 21, 2017, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 01:23:03 PM
So does Gary jnr get fwd status for 2018 if Lobb is a ruck?

Apples and Oranges

The only reason I am of the belief Lobb will get ruck is because CD have to assign at least 1 ruck to every team, and with Mummy now gone it makes complete sense that Lobb will be the ruck in SC for GWS

Jack Macrae being a fwd this year also made complete sense...
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 02:57:50 PM
Motlop and Lang out and Menegoat missing out on fwd status. CD have to assign some forward too. Menzel and Hawkins probably isn't enough.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2017, 05:05:23 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 21, 2017, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2017, 12:10:11 PM
I'll help you reduce list size Zander, and for free too

Jordan Dawson is a NDTer :P

haha yeah i know that, just copied and pasted the list from adas team list :P Hes not counted on cap list size though
Bloody Ada, sort your shower out

Parker/Hanners offer is still there ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2017, 05:06:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 02:57:50 PM
Motlop and Lang out and Menegoat missing out on fwd status. CD have to assign some forward too. Menzel and Hawkins probably isn't enough.
Menegoat will be in the VFL now
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on October 21, 2017, 05:24:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2017, 05:05:23 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 21, 2017, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2017, 12:10:11 PM
I'll help you reduce list size Zander, and for free too

Jordan Dawson is a NDTer :P

haha yeah i know that, just copied and pasted the list from adas team list :P Hes not counted on cap list size though
Bloody Ada, sort your shower out

Dawso is just that good, he can play for two clubs at the same time.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2017, 05:26:46 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 21, 2017, 05:24:25 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2017, 05:05:23 PM
Quote from: iZander on October 21, 2017, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2017, 12:10:11 PM
I'll help you reduce list size Zander, and for free too

Jordan Dawson is a NDTer :P

haha yeah i know that, just copied and pasted the list from adas team list :P Hes not counted on cap list size though
Bloody Ada, sort your shower out

Dawso is just that good, he can play for two clubs at the same time.
Damn straight. Worth 2x first rounders too

Come get him lads
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Jack Steal at 8, Lever at 16
Sat out 2015 draft because I thought it was shower and it's looking to be true.
SPS at 6, Darcy at 44

Quote from: meow meow on February 13, 2016, 06:48:02 PM

Putting it out there - years from now Essendon will look back on the 2015 draft and lament the fact that they selected Francis so early. One of the more overrated players getting around IMO. Not keen on Parish at his price either, would prefer the forgotten Oliver instead.

I think my insight into the draft is generally awesome, so I am offering my services to every team who wants them. Just give me your 2nd round pick as a consultation fee. Could save you from wasting your cherished pick 2 on Francis. Surely that's good value!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Jack Steal at 8, Lever at 16
Sat out 2015 draft because I thought it was shower and it's looking to be true.
SPS at 6, Darcy at 44

Quote from: meow meow on February 13, 2016, 06:48:02 PM

Putting it out there - years from now Essendon will look back on the 2015 draft and lament the fact that they selected Francis so early. One of the more overrated players getting around IMO. Not keen on Parish at his price either, would prefer the forgotten Oliver instead.

I think my insight into the draft is generally awesome, so I am offering my services to every team who wants them. Just give me your 2nd round pick as a consultation fee. Could save you from wasting your cherished pick 2 on Francis. Surely that's good value!

You can have my 2nd rounder if you can get me someone as good as Oliver with pick 8!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 07:01:36 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Jack Steal at 8, Lever at 16
Sat out 2015 draft because I thought it was shower and it's looking to be true.
SPS at 6, Darcy at 44

Quote from: meow meow on February 13, 2016, 06:48:02 PM

Putting it out there - years from now Essendon will look back on the 2015 draft and lament the fact that they selected Francis so early. One of the more overrated players getting around IMO. Not keen on Parish at his price either, would prefer the forgotten Oliver instead.

I think my insight into the draft is generally awesome, so I am offering my services to every team who wants them. Just give me your 2nd round pick as a consultation fee. Could save you from wasting your cherished pick 2 on Francis. Surely that's good value!

You can have my 2nd rounder if you can get me someone as good as Oliver with pick 8!

There won't be another Oliver for 5 years. Pick 8 is almost worthless this year. Give it to me cheap.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on October 21, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Jack Steal at 8, Lever at 16
Sat out 2015 draft because I thought it was shower and it's looking to be true.
SPS at 6, Darcy at 44

Quote from: meow meow on February 13, 2016, 06:48:02 PM

Putting it out there - years from now Essendon will look back on the 2015 draft and lament the fact that they selected Francis so early. One of the more overrated players getting around IMO. Not keen on Parish at his price either, would prefer the forgotten Oliver instead.

I think my insight into the draft is generally awesome, so I am offering my services to every team who wants them. Just give me your 2nd round pick as a consultation fee. Could save you from wasting your cherished pick 2 on Francis. Surely that's good value!

LMAO who would be stupid enough to take Francis at pick 2????
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 07:49:37 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on October 21, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 21, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Jack Steal at 8, Lever at 16
Sat out 2015 draft because I thought it was shower and it's looking to be true.
SPS at 6, Darcy at 44

Quote from: meow meow on February 13, 2016, 06:48:02 PM

Putting it out there - years from now Essendon will look back on the 2015 draft and lament the fact that they selected Francis so early. One of the more overrated players getting around IMO. Not keen on Parish at his price either, would prefer the forgotten Oliver instead.

I think my insight into the draft is generally awesome, so I am offering my services to every team who wants them. Just give me your 2nd round pick as a consultation fee. Could save you from wasting your cherished pick 2 on Francis. Surely that's good value!

LMAO who would be stupid enough to take Francis at pick 2????

Doubt they'll ever win a WXV flag, certainly not in the same season where they waste pick 2.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on October 21, 2017, 08:06:45 PM
Hooker/Edwards + 21/23/31/34 for a mid or a fwd, 25-26 probably the age cut off

Can be all of the picks or just 1 depending, even 13 or 9 could be involved if necessary
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 05:33:22 PM
There's a game changing potential deal in the works. Think about who you think is the MVP of the comp when you factor in age, potential and current output. Possibly coming to 'Church!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on October 22, 2017, 05:42:10 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 05:33:22 PM
There's a game changing potential deal in the works. Think about who you think is the MVP of the comp when you factor in age, potential and current output. Possibly coming to 'Church!
Didn't know we were trading Jeff Garlett.  :o
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 22, 2017, 05:44:47 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 05:33:22 PM
There's a game changing potential deal in the works. Think about who you think is the MVP of the comp when you factor in age, potential and current output. Possibly coming to 'Church!

No way jb trades danger.

If you are a JB come to me
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 08:27:14 PM
Prepare to have your socks blown off. This is a coup of the highest order.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 08:27:14 PM
Prepare to have your socks blown off. This is a coup of the highest order.

LOL  ;D

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2017, 09:23:54 PM
New York trade: Tom $cully + Jake Stringer 
Christchurch trade: Bryce Gibbs, Pick 26 + Pick 32

New York trade: Brennan Cox + Pick 32
Christchurch trade: Ryan Lester

Christchurch trade: Kyle Langford + Jack Steele
New York trade: RYAN LESTER + Bryce Gibbs




Wouldn't it have been easier just to go...

New York trade: Tom $cully + Jake Stringer + Brennan Cox
Christchurch trade: Jack Steele + Kyle Langford + Pick 26
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 09:45:48 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 22, 2017, 09:23:54 PM
New York trade: Tom $cully + Jake Stringer
Christchurch trade: Bryce Gibbs, Pick 26 + Pick 32

New York trade: Brennan Cox + Pick 32
Christchurch trade: Ryan Lester

Christchurch trade: Kyle Langford + Jack Steele
New York trade: RYAN LESTER + Bryce Gibbs




Wouldn't it have been easier just to go...

New York trade: Tom $cully + Jake Stringer + Brennan Cox
Christchurch trade: Jack Steele + Kyle Langford + Pick 26

Obviously, in hindsight, but these were all done over a long period of time and other trades in between changed team needs etc

Plus, we like discussing and trading with eachother :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
Also, we're open to trading Jelwood

Jelwood + something smallish for 2 younger, lower scoring, starting mids
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Trade looks pretty fair if we cut out the middle trades.

NY got to experience the thrill on owning LESTER for a short time. It's a rush. RD's reaction when he realised he has just trade him out was pretty good.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Trade looks pretty fair if we cut out the middle trades.

NY got to experience the thrill on owning LESTER for a short time. It's a rush. RD's reaction when he realised he has just trade him out was pretty good.

Lol, their certainly was a reaction! Can't blame me though, it's not everyday you have to say goodbye to someone of Lesters calibre. I'll never forget the time we actually had Lester - a genuine rush indeed

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on October 22, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Trade looks pretty fair if we cut out the middle trades.

NY got to experience the thrill on owning LESTER for a short time. It's a rush. RD's reaction when he realised he has just trade him out was pretty good.
Lot of Brisbane supporters do not have Lester in their best 22 so we wait and see. He is a favourite of Fagan but whether that will be enough remains to be seen.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 10:47:52 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 22, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Trade looks pretty fair if we cut out the middle trades.

NY got to experience the thrill on owning LESTER for a short time. It's a rush. RD's reaction when he realised he has just trade him out was pretty good.
Lot of Brisbane supporters do not have Lester in their best 22 so we wait and see. He is a favourite of Fagan but whether that will be enough remains to be seen.

AFL,com just did an article with what they think all best 22's will look like in 2018 and Lester is in their forward line

He is also in Brisbane's leadership group, and played all year, so for now I can't see how he can't be considered best 22 for the purposes of reviewing trades
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on October 22, 2017, 11:18:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 10:47:52 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 22, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Trade looks pretty fair if we cut out the middle trades.

NY got to experience the thrill on owning LESTER for a short time. It's a rush. RD's reaction when he realised he has just trade him out was pretty good.
Lot of Brisbane supporters do not have Lester in their best 22 so we wait and see. He is a favourite of Fagan but whether that will be enough remains to be seen.

AFL,com just did an article with what they think all best 22's will look like in 2018 and Lester is in their forward line

He is also in Brisbane's leadership group, and played all year, so for now I can't see how he can't be considered best 22 for the purposes of reviewing trades
But they also left out Berry, Matthieson and Keays. Also Rayner if we take him at pick1.  The difficulty at the moment is finding who to leave out with the return of Robbo and Bundy. 
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 22, 2017, 11:34:02 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 22, 2017, 11:18:48 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 10:47:52 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 22, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 10:02:28 PM
Trade looks pretty fair if we cut out the middle trades.

NY got to experience the thrill on owning LESTER for a short time. It's a rush. RD's reaction when he realised he has just trade him out was pretty good.
Lot of Brisbane supporters do not have Lester in their best 22 so we wait and see. He is a favourite of Fagan but whether that will be enough remains to be seen.

AFL,com just did an article with what they think all best 22's will look like in 2018 and Lester is in their forward line

He is also in Brisbane's leadership group, and played all year, so for now I can't see how he can't be considered best 22 for the purposes of reviewing trades
But they also left out Berry, Matthieson and Keays. Also Rayner if we take him at pick1.  The difficulty at the moment is finding who to leave out with the return of Robbo and Bundy.
90% of the time you'll never have your best 22 available come round 1
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 11:39:42 PM
What Rico said

Either way, Lesters JS can't really be questioned atm just based off a few supporters opinion because everything factual suggests it's not in question at all
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 22, 2017, 11:44:56 PM
Who cares anyway. Langford isn't best 22 either and Gibbs for Steele is close enough to being even with the higher average vs younger player.

Lester is gun though and Fags would pick him over anyone especially dud Rocky.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 23, 2017, 12:43:13 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 11:39:42 PM
What Rico said

Either way, Lesters JS can't really be questioned atm just based off a few supporters opinion because everything factual suggests it's not in question at all
Plus what Fagan thinks of Lester is probabaly more important than what supporters do :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 23, 2017, 12:45:32 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 23, 2017, 12:43:13 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 22, 2017, 11:39:42 PM
What Rico said

Either way, Lesters JS can't really be questioned atm just based off a few supporters opinion because everything factual suggests it's not in question at all
Plus what Fagan thinks of Lester is probabaly more important than what supporters do :P
Don't be ridiculous JRoo
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 23, 2017, 12:44:37 PM
Still looking to package up Picks 12, 14, 24, 27, 34 for a player or better pick. Can also add depth players as need to reduce my list too
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on October 23, 2017, 01:09:35 PM
If you're looking for defensive depth or cap points in the form of guys who do play, we've got Nick Smith, Eric Mackenzie, Ben Stratton and Fletcher Roberts available.

Looking for forwards and/or picks in return.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 24, 2017, 10:16:59 AM
3 teams still to vote

London Royals
PNL Reindeers
Seoul Magpies

Meaning the following trades auto-pass, as they have so far received 0 votes

Trade 81
New Delhi trade: Marc Murphy
Christchurch trade: Jack Redden + Pick 26

Trade 82
Toronto trade: Jade Gresham + Harley Balic
New York trade: Dom Tyson + Pick 32

Trade 83
Toronto trade: Jimmy Webster
Beijing trade: Jared Polec

Trade 84
Toronto trade: Pick 68 + PSD Pick 13
Pacific trade: Pick 70, Pick 88, PSD Pick 15 + PSD Pick 33

Trade 85
New York trade: Pick 74
Christchurch trade: Pick 81, Pick 84 + PSD Pick 25

Trade 87
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 25
Christchurch trade: Michael Rischitelli, Chris Mayne + Pick 31

Trade 88
Christchurch trade: Kyle Langford + Jack Steele
New York trade: Ryan Lester + Bryce Gibbs
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 11:45:30 AM
Pretty excited to have Jack Steele at the Revs!  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 06:35:19 PM
Alright, as the trade period gets closer to finishing, we've all of a sudden got the urge to trade and bring in a little youth (Ala Gibbs for Steele)

Trading is by the far the most enjoyable thing of being in WXV, so let's have more fun!

Besides Buddy, JJK is about as proven as they get for genuine forwards and we've never considered trading him, until now

We're offering a perma captain in Jelwood + a F1 in JJK

We want a younger gun mid, and a lesser forward in return

I'm sure there are a few teams that could become genuine flag contenders by acquiring these 2 in one trade, so if you're interested send me your offers

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 06:52:10 PM
Cut me in. NY have one of my players who needs to return home.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
Joel Selwood is a Dublin player. Some players just belong at certain clubs. Pendles made his way back to Toronto because everyone knows that that's where he rightfully belongs.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 07:27:26 PM
Absolutely agree, certain players belong at certain clubs because it just feels right

Griff, Gibbs, Stringer and Scully are all meow players, and so is Higgins...

Pendles is Toronto

Bont is Pacific

Sidey is NDT

Beams is Cairo

And so on

Matt Crouch doesn't feel like Dublin to me at all tbh. Dusty, Sloane and Brad Crouch do, but Matt isn't Dublin imo

Jelwood and Crouch should swap clubs. We need a 3RD marquee youngster to join Heeney and Steele

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 07:47:45 PM
Tippett is NY
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on October 24, 2017, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 07:47:45 PM
Tippett is NY
yeah, and Parker is BA
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 24, 2017, 08:03:46 PM
Simon White isn't NDT
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jukes on October 24, 2017, 08:09:46 PM
I'm not certain, but I believe I've only had player that I've always had and never traded away

James GOAT Frawley

(Also started out with Treloar, traded him, then got him back in)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on October 24, 2017, 08:17:28 PM
GAJ is Brazilian through and through. Christchurch need to do the right thing and send him back to his rightful home.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 24, 2017, 08:18:03 PM
Goldy is Dublin.

So are Jelwood and Rocky :(

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 24, 2017, 08:20:55 PM
Buddy, Hibberd, Walters... Jake Spencer, and Dylan Grimes. I drafted this bunch back in '11  ;) Walters & Bud found their way back home eventually.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 08:22:47 PM
Tambling is old Moscow
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 08:26:57 PM
I gave up Bennell when he had just become awesome, and then Zorko when he was awesome and about to get awesomer for Griff. Worked well the first time when he had that ridiculous season, and it's about to be shadowed my how immense he's going to be the second time around.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 24, 2017, 08:27:20 PM
 Actually i believe we just traded out our only remaining original this trade period... Aaron Mullett
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: DazBurg on October 24, 2017, 08:27:48 PM
majority of PNL is PNL haha
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 08:43:41 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 24, 2017, 08:27:48 PM
majority of PNL is PNL haha

LMAO, true! But that's because you rarely ever trade!

(Thanks for Ryder  :-*)

Quote from: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 07:47:45 PM
Tippett is NY

So true, and we love it!

Heater is NY too. Give us another mid, and then we can swap Heater and Higgins back to restore faith and get out of this bizarro world!



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 08:45:35 PM
I've turned over every single player from the redraft in 3 seasons.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: DazBurg on October 24, 2017, 08:50:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 08:43:41 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 24, 2017, 08:27:48 PM
majority of PNL is PNL haha

LMAO, true! But that's because you rarely ever trade!

(Thanks for Ryder  :-*)

Quote from: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 07:47:45 PM
Tippett is NY

So true, and we love it!

Heater is NY too. Give us another mid, and then we can swap Heater and Higgins back to restore faith and get out of this bizarro world!
yeah we like our players and watching them grow
may never scale the heights of a flag doing it that way, but we do enjoy it
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 08:51:48 PM
And just for fun, when I personally think of each team, these are the players that I just naturally associate it to that club, and it feels weird if they're not there

BEIJING: Neale, Ward, Wines and for some reason Hunt
BERLIN: Fyfe and Gawn
BA: Parker feels right there
CAIRO: Beams, Adams and Mummy (RIP)
CAPE TOWN: Was JPK, but now no one lol
CHURCH: Stringer, Scully, Griff and Higgo, and then everyone else meow has rammed down our throats like Lester, Vardy, Wilson etc lol
DUBLIN: Rance, Dusty, Sloane, Goldy, B.Crouch
LONDON: Rampe
MEXICO: No one atm because they've cleaned house
MOSCOW: Docherty, Heppell, Daniher
NDT: Lloyd, Sidey, Stef
PACIFIC: Laird, Hurley, Titch, Bont
PNL: Zerrett, Shiel, Billings
RIO: Only Cripps left (Needs GAJ and Hall back)
SEOUL: Danger, Oliver (Reckon Kelly suits elsewhere)
TOKYO: JJ
TORONTO: Pendles
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on October 24, 2017, 08:58:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 08:51:48 PM
CAPE TOWN: Was JPK, but now no one lol
Gotta be Touk since I've been coach haha

I think Pittard is the only original remaining, but was traded out then in again
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 09:01:11 PM
Although he was only with us for one year our greatest ever player is probably Shaun McKernan.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 09:03:59 PM
Swanny a BA legend.
Priddis a PNL legend.

(C)onnor a legend.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 24, 2017, 09:05:43 PM
Nroo, Bartel, BJ were Mexico  :'(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 09:07:58 PM
Fyfe is a whore. Was meant to be a Moscow legend along with Dusty, Higgo, Heef and Treloar but now he's just dirty. NY, Moscow, Moscow 2.0, Dublin, Berlin. Ew.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on October 24, 2017, 09:11:07 PM
When I think of NY, the only player that comes to mind is Libba tbqh
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 24, 2017, 09:15:26 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 24, 2017, 09:11:07 PM
When I think of NY, the only player that comes to mind is Libba tbqh
haha yeh same for some reason
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 09:18:20 PM
When I think Moscow I think every player that I drafted or traded in. I remember each and every one, even nobodys like Josh Growden or players that didn't survive for more than a couple of weeks before the first season...like Witts :(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 09:21:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 24, 2017, 09:15:26 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 24, 2017, 09:11:07 PM
When I think of NY, the only player that comes to mind is Libba tbqh
haha yeh same for some reason

Might have something to do with this...

(http://i.imgur.com/Nii7z4f.png)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 09:22:16 PM
Austin Logan ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 09:25:11 PM
LOL!

Libba really is the missing piece of our puzzle  :'(

Did sell him at the right time though ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on October 24, 2017, 09:29:30 PM
We are finally having the discussions Ossie wanted us to have years ago.  :P

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 09:32:05 PM
Was sad to see Libba go to NY but getting Fyfe for him seemed worth it. I turned him into a star when I drafted him to Moscow and I'm confident that I'll be able to get him to bounce back this time around.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 09:34:10 PM
When I think Taylor Adams I think NDT.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on October 24, 2017, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 08:51:48 PM
Mummy (RIP)
It's with a heavy heart that ML and I would like announce the death of Cairo Sands football club.

It is apparent that our identity is linked with a great man that can never be replaced and any attempts to carry on in his absence are futile.

Please understand this is a difficult time for us all and respect our decision.

Thank you for your time.

#NoMummyNoCairo
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: Nige on October 24, 2017, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 08:51:48 PM
Mummy (RIP)
It's with a heavy heart that ML and I would like announce the death of Cairo Sands football club.

It is apparent that our identity is linked with a great man that can never be replaced and any attempts to carry on in his absence are futile.

Please understand this is a difficult time for us all and respect our decision.

Thank you for your time.

#NoMummyNoCairo

I know the feeling.

(http://www.theage.com.au/content/dam/images/2/t/t/d/l/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.2tswi.png/1379279327053.jpg)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on October 24, 2017, 09:42:24 PM
Rory Lobb's the only ruck we need.

...oh.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on October 24, 2017, 09:51:40 PM
and for the record Londons players still with the club from 1st season - Rampe, Gardiner, McStay, Josh Hill andTowers
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on October 24, 2017, 09:57:16 PM
Had to do a bit of research but I found it.

Turns out pothead had the best eye for talent. Only 3 more players were taken after him.

Quote from: ossie85 on October 16, 2011, 08:26:54 PM
681 pot: J McGovern

And then once again the great man slipped through the cracks. Again, only 8 players taken after him.

Quote from: ossie85 on November 25, 2013, 01:29:04 PM
99. Cairo - Jeremy McGovern

Thank you, friends.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on October 24, 2017, 09:58:28 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 08:51:48 PM
CAIRO: Beams, Adams, McGovern and Mummy (RIP)
Fixed it for ya, RD.  :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 24, 2017, 10:11:14 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 24, 2017, 09:34:10 PM
When I think Taylor Adams I think NDT.
Motherflowering compo
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 24, 2017, 10:57:24 PM
I actually think that if we give up both JJK and Jelwood then a 3 way trade would be the best possibility

If you want just one of these guys, and have something of worth to give up in return, then let me know and I think we can work out a 3 way deal

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 25, 2017, 11:14:55 AM
Cloke set to retire a day after I traded him in. Compo
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2017, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 25, 2017, 11:14:55 AM
Cloke set to retire a day after I traded him in. Compo

The trade hasn't been voted on yet

Just resubmit a revised trade

And anyone who has any interest in Jelwood or JJK - be sure to let me know.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 25, 2017, 09:50:43 PM
I'm on discord if anyone feels like talking trades :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 26, 2017, 02:43:15 PM
All votes in, there was just one pending trade left:

Trade 86
Moscow trade: Darcy Moore, Pick 6 + Pick 19
Christchurch trade: Sam Petrevski-Seton + Pick 20
Votes: 5
Coaches comments: Felt SPS was worth around Pick 6, and Pick 19 is approximately the same as Pick 20, meaning Moscow was either not receiving compensation for losing Moore, or not enough.
Admin comments: I certainly see where the coaches are coming from, and I have stewed on trade this morning. At the moment, I think SPS is second to only McGrath (maybe Witherden) from last year's draft, and I think there is enough precedent (Parish comes to mind) that the year SPS has produced is worthy of a top 3 pick in return. Picks are a gamble, and given SPS's form has kinda 'validated' him as a good young prospect, I'm comfortable with valuing SPS at Pick 2 or 3 for the purposes of this trade. Now, I think there is a notable difference (especially in this draft) between Pick 2/3 and Pick 6, and although Moore is a price to pay for this difference, I don't think it's unreasonable enough for me to overturn the decision from a PASS to a REJECT.
Verdict: PASS

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 02:53:39 PM
Houston averaged more than McGrath and SPS

Just sayin ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on October 26, 2017, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 02:53:39 PM
Houston averaged more than McGrath and SPS

Just sayin ;)

All three have nothin' on Witho!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on October 26, 2017, 03:12:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 02:53:39 PM
Houston averaged more than McGrath and SPS

Just sayin ;)
Houston worth N1 though
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 03:45:48 PM
Quote from: Adamant on October 26, 2017, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 02:53:39 PM
Houston averaged more than McGrath and SPS

Just sayin ;)

All three have nothin' on Witho!

Nobody can touch WitherGUN

Might consider Pick 1 Zander :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 26, 2017, 03:49:15 PM
SPS is pretty good.

He averaged as much as Weits so thats saying something.

Serious question though why draft a KPP that usually take 3-5 years to develop and then trade them cheap just as they are about to become good.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 26, 2017, 03:49:15 PM
SPS is pretty good.

He averaged as much as Weits so thats saying something.

Serious question though why draft a KPP that usually take 3-5 years to develop and then trade them cheap just as they are about to become good.

Who did that?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 26, 2017, 04:30:50 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: Holz on October 26, 2017, 03:49:15 PM
SPS is pretty good.

He averaged as much as Weits so thats saying something.

Serious question though why draft a KPP that usually take 3-5 years to develop and then trade them cheap just as they are about to become good.

Who did that?

The trade above.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 26, 2017, 05:39:38 PM
Hmmm Moore could take quite a long while still to turn into anything SC relevant

Rumour is he is pegged to play down back which will be interesting and could improve his scoring, but I can't see him being consistent for quite a while still
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on October 26, 2017, 06:00:51 PM
Lol at this trade

McKenzie looking like getting delisted now

Next it'll be Rose
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on October 26, 2017, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2017, 06:00:51 PM
Lol at this trade

McKenzie looking like getting delisted now

Next it'll be Rose
Another club will swoop if he gets delisted, that's why I thought you were keen :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 26, 2017, 07:12:06 PM
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The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on October 27, 2017, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: Jroo on October 26, 2017, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 26, 2017, 06:00:51 PM
Lol at this trade

McKenzie looking like getting delisted now

Next it'll be Rose
Another club will swoop if he gets delisted, that's why I thought you were keen :P

Yeah i assumed thats why they where targeting him. If i was NDT i would be hoping he gets delisted and picked up at another club. For the cost of pick 30 its a steal.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2017, 03:57:51 PM
Another Matty Eagles article

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-27/jonathan-browns-brother-ignites-fire-for-lion-eagles

We'll be upgrading him off the rookie list I think - reckon he is a good chance to debut in 2018  8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on October 27, 2017, 05:11:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on October 27, 2017, 03:57:51 PM
Another Matty Eagles article

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-27/jonathan-browns-brother-ignites-fire-for-lion-eagles

We'll be upgrading him off the rookie list I think - reckon he is a good chance to debut in 2018  8)
Especially if he continues his improvement as a defender. Would be competing with Gardiner and McStay though for a place.  Buts as we know injuries happen. Barrett took his chance when promoted as a result of LTI to Robbo.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on October 29, 2017, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 02:25:23 PM
A reminder, that the 2017 Christchurch Buenos Aires Draft will be held no earlier than the 30th of November :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 29, 2017, 09:02:01 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 29, 2017, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 19, 2017, 02:25:23 PM
A reminder, that the 2017 Christchurch Buenos Aires Draft will be held no earlier than the 30th of November :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on October 30, 2017, 07:43:07 PM
I'm tired of logging onto the forum and seeing no new replies here lol

Trade with me! EVERYONE is available for a price, except Heeney and Steele
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on October 31, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
Currently delisting these guys:

Cam Hewett
Jesse Palmer
Jono Freeman
Jon Griffin
Liam Mackie
Lachie Hansen
Sam Fisher
Craig Bird
Stewart Crameri
Jimmy Toumpas
Brad Lynch

If you wanna punt on any of these blokes for a NAT or PSD pick, lemme know. Couple of those guys I might like to see if they get picked up by someone else or not, such as Crameri and Bird.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 02, 2017, 12:55:41 AM
Should have another blockbuster trade done by tomorrow night.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 02, 2017, 10:44:41 AM
3 teams left to vote:

Moscow Spetsnaz
Pacific Islanders
PNL Reindeers

This trade auto-passes as it has received no votes so far.

Trade 90
Berlin trade: Pick 67
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 73 + PSD Pick 29

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 03, 2017, 12:22:20 AM
Quote from: GoLions on November 02, 2017, 12:55:41 AM
Should have another blockbuster trade done by tomorrow night.
4 down, 7 to go. Rumour has it that the Swans will pick up Sam Fisher again in the rookie draft providing that no other clubs take him. Liam Mackie is the cousin of Andrew, will get picked up by another club on that alone. Have a PSD pick higher than 22 you're not using? Well then it could be your lucky day. Maybe even a rookie pick higher than 22. Who knows. The possibilities are endless.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 03, 2017, 10:38:19 AM
All votes are in!

Trade 89
New Delhi trade: Pick 30 + Rookie Pick 16
Mexico City trade: Trent McKenzie, James Rose + Rookie Pick 44
Votes: 2
Coaches comments: One coach felt Cannon was worth more, the other felt Pick 30 was worth more
Admin comments: Kewl.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 90
Berlin trade: Pick 67
Rio de Janeiro trade: Pick 73 + PSD Pick 29
Votes: 0
Coaches comments: Nil
Admin comments: Coz flower you that's why.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 91
Christchurch trade: Pick 3, Pick 4 + Pick 6
Buenos Aires trade: Luke Parker + Pick 21
Votes: 5
Coaches comments: All felt it was an overpay for Parker, pointing out that Parker didn't average 100+ in two of the past 3 years. Felt 2 high draft picks was more accurate
Admin comments: Well, is Pick 4 worth Ebert or Fiorini? The answer to that question - as a coach - would determine whether I'd neg this trade. However, what should be noted here (and was mentioned by a couple of PASSing coaches), is that Parker is Buenos Aires caption option. I extremely doubt anyone here would accept just Picks 3 & 4 for their captain option where in this case, this caption option has had two 108+ seasons and is still only 25. So I do see Pick 6 as necessary here, and that extra price is recognised by the Dillos also sending Pick 21 to the way of the Saints. You need ample motivation to trade your captain, and meow has provided that. Not a big enough issue for me to overturn it.
Verdict: PASS

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 03, 2017, 10:52:35 AM
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The WXV Draft Order & Player Lists (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110313.0.html) thread has been updated, including the spreadsheet that is permanently available in the OP of that thread :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 03, 2017, 11:10:56 AM
So! With just a little over 2 weeks until the end of the trade period, I've just done a quick sweep of how all of your lists are shaping up for your list lodgements.

There are currently 130 delisted/retired AFL players that have not found their way to another club yet. These players will be force delisted from your team (unless they find another club).

With these players removed, this is how your caps are shaping up

A reminder, that you will be submitting your list lodgement on the presumption that you will have 44 players on your list. So your cap has to be above the min and the below the max assuming 44 list spots.

WXV ClubCurrent CapList GapsTotal Cap
Beijing Thunder$10,148,000$1,000,000$11,148,000
Berlin Brewers$10,351,000$800,000$11,151,000
Buenos Aires Armadillos$8,729,000$0$8,729,000
Cairo Sands$9,786,000$0$9,786,000
Cape Town Cobras$8,203,000$900,000$9,103,000
Christchurch Saints$8,898,000$1,200,000$10,098,000
Dublin Destroyers$10,253,000$700,000$10,953,000
London Royals$8,193,000$600,000$8,793,000
Mexico City Suns$8,262,000$600,000$8,862,000
Moscow Spetsnaz$11,340,000$0$11,340,000
New Delhi Tigers$10,396,000$700,000$11,096,000
New York Revolution$8,680,000$1,200,000$9,880,000
Pacific Islanders$10,241,000$700,000$10,941,000
PNL Reindeers$8,832,000$300,000$9,132,000
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars$8,072,000$0$8,072,000
Seoul Magpies$10,457,000$200,000$10,657,000
Tokyo Samurai$9,050,000$300,000$9,350,000
Toronto Wolves$8,152,000$2,000,000$10,152,000
No Club$242,000-$242,000
Delisted$22,248,000-$22,248,000

As you can see, if we were submitting a list lodgement today:

Beijing, Berlin and Moscow would be over the cap, and

Buenos Aires, London, Mexico City and Rio would be under it.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 03, 2017, 11:18:17 AM
These are the current force-delisted players for each club:

Beijing Thunder   
Michael Talia   $198,000
Ben Kennedy   $172,000
Heritier Lumumba   $157,000
Ben Lennon   $131,000
Shaun Edwards   $117,000
Kade Stewart   $100,000
Andrew Gallucci   $100,000
Declan Hamilton   $100,000
Mitch McCarthy   $100,000
Roarke Smith   $100,000
   
Berlin Brewers   
Steve Johnson   $302,000
Jobe Watson   $294,000
Andrew Mackie   $289,000
Jake Spencer   $196,000
Brett Eddy   $100,000
Jack Trengove   $100,000
Joshua Prudden   $100,000
   
Buenos Aires Armadillos   
Sharrod Wellingham   $267,000
Sam Butler   $204,000
Dennis Armfield   $170,000
Keegan Brooksby   $153,000
Cian Hanley   $100,000
Matthew Taylor   $100,000
Thomas Gorter   $100,000
   
Cairo Sands   
Shane Mumford   $514,000
Jesse White   $241,000
Tom Downie   $131,000
Heath Hocking   $114,000
   
Cape Town Cobras   
Ivan Maric   $309,000
Craig Bird   $242,000
Lachlan Hansen   $210,000
Stewart Crameri   $204,000
Sam Collins   $195,000
Jonathon Griffin   $179,000
Sam Fisher   $100,000
Liam Mackie   $100,000
Jonathan Freeman   $100,000
Jesse Palmer   $100,000
   
Christchurch Saints   
Sam Mitchell   $490,000
Leigh Montagna   $468,000
Robert Murphy   $297,000
Drew Petrie   $284,000
Sean Dempster   $232,000
Tendai Mzungu   $133,000
   
Dublin Destroyers   
Troy Menzel   $126,000
Jonathon Beech   $100,000
Luke Surman   $100,000
Paddy Brophy   $100,000
   
London Royals   
Josh Hill   $243,000
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen   $207,000
Jonathan Giles   $195,000
Matt Shaw   $177,000
Claye Beams   $154,000
Ryan Harwood   $154,000
Jarrad Jansen   $101,000
Josh Clayton   $100,000
   
Mexico City Suns   
Nick Riewoldt   $390,000
Brent Stanton   $354,000
Jeremy Laidler   $204,000
Ryan Davis   $169,000
Henry Schade   $159,000
Dylan Buckley   $155,000
Ciaran Sheehan   $100,000
Lewis Pierce   $100,000
Matt Korcheck   $100,000
Nick Coughlan   $100,000
Tyrone Leonardis   $100,000
   
Moscow Spetsnaz   
Josh Cowan   $139,000
Daniel Gorringe   $100,000
   
New Delhi Tigers   
Adam Oxley   $253,000
Travis Cloke   $232,000
Nathan Krakouer   $211,000
Simon White   $191,000
Liam Sumner   $114,000
Brandon Jack   $109,000
Dallas Willsmore   $100,000
Blake Grewar   $100,000
Cameron Loersch   $100,000
Nick O'Kearney   $100,000
   
New York Revolution   
Josh Gibson   $336,000
Ben Sinclair   $176,000
Jack Fitzpatrick   $100,000
Todd Elton   $100,000
Mitch White   $100,000
Simon Tunbridge   $100,000
   
No Club   
Tom Lonergan   $214,000
Jarrad Grant   $192,000
Jake Batchelor   $155,000
Zac Dawson   $117,000
Matthew Hayball   $100,000
Yestin Eades   $100,000
   
Pacific Islanders   
Ben Howlett   $234,000
Nick Suban   $233,000
Daniel Currie   $105,000
Kristian Jaksch   $100,000
Will Fordham   $100,000
   
PNL Reindeers   
Matt Priddis   $607,000
Mitch Hallahan   $209,000
Rhys Palmer   $205,000
Billie Smedts   $102,000
Josh Deluca   $100,000
Matthew Hammelmann   $100,000
Dean Gore   $100,000
Reuben William   $100,000
   
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars   
Matthew Boyd   $403,000
Scott Thompson   $349,000
Billy Hartung   $275,000
Taylor Hunt   $237,000
Colin Garland   $207,000
Angus Monfries   $179,000
James Kelly   $176,000
Jackson Ramsay   $174,000
Matthew White   $161,000
Sam J Reid   $131,000
Michael Close   $128,000
Corey Wagner   $100,000
Alex Johnson   $100,000
Jason Holmes   $100,000
Jordan Snadden   $100,000
Liam Hulett   $100,000
Matt Uebergang   $100,000
   
Seoul Magpies   
Blaine Boekhorst   $163,000
   
Tokyo Samurai   
Garrick Ibbotson   $278,000
Tom Ruggles   $165,000
Steven Morris   $135,000
Mackenzie Willis   $100,000
Shane Yarran   $100,000
Tristan Tweedie   $100,000
   
Toronto Wolves   
Zac Clarke   $172,000
Tom Lamb   $100,000
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 03, 2017, 12:57:11 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now

lucky flowerer
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 03, 2017, 01:08:17 PM
Its certainly pretty funny that as soon as Mummy retires, Cairo become relevant.

No Mummy, No Problem

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)

I'm scratching my head thinking, how the hell are you going to be able to package these guys (reduce list) but increase cap at the same time?

Near impossible, unless JB will take 5 100k players for Danger :P

The only way I see, is to give up the picks you have listed for players with higher caps, and then delist the spuds  :-\
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 03, 2017, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)

I'm scratching my head thinking, how the hell are you going to be able to package these guys (reduce list) but increase cap at the same time?

Near impossible, unless JB will take 5 100k players for Danger :P

The only way I see, is to give up the picks you have listed for players with higher caps, and then delist the spuds  :-\
Might have to dish out a top 5 picks for a young gun like Dan houston or something
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 03, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)

I'm scratching my head thinking, how the hell are you going to be able to package these guys (reduce list) but increase cap at the same time?

Near impossible, unless JB will take 5 100k players for Danger :P

The only way I see, is to give up the picks you have listed for players with higher caps, and then delist the spuds  :-\

its really a players cap space above 100k that matters though.

If he trades 5 100k players for a 250k player then thats 4 list spots free and a extra 150k cap. Those list spaces can be used to say pick up 150k spuds and then bang 350k cap increase.




Its a good system its far better for a struggling team to have these 60 average players who will retire in a few years to help the rebuild far more then wasting list spots on spuds from the PSD, rookie or late in the nat like

Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti, Tom Papley, Declan Mountfordd, Jack Silvagni , Oscar McDonald, Kane Lambert, Aaron Vandenberg, Hugh Greenwood,  Braydon Preuss
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)

I'm scratching my head thinking, how the hell are you going to be able to package these guys (reduce list) but increase cap at the same time?

Near impossible, unless JB will take 5 100k players for Danger :P

The only way I see, is to give up the picks you have listed for players with higher caps, and then delist the spuds  :-\
Might have to dish out a top 5 picks for a young gun like Dan houston or something

I was being serious and asking in general because it looks like it will be hard to do what you need to do

I wasn't being a smart a$$, like your response was

Obviously the Danger comment was a joke hence the :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 03, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)

I'm scratching my head thinking, how the hell are you going to be able to package these guys (reduce list) but increase cap at the same time?

Near impossible, unless JB will take 5 100k players for Danger :P

The only way I see, is to give up the picks you have listed for players with higher caps, and then delist the spuds  :-\
Might have to dish out a top 5 picks for a young gun like Dan houston or something

I was being serious and asking in general because it looks like it will be hard to do what you need to do

I wasn't being a smart a$$, like your response was

Obviously the Danger comment was a joke hence the :P
Then how come you didnt put a :P when you said houston was worth a top 5 pick? or were you serious?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Then how come you didnt put a :P when you said houston was worth a top 5 pick? or were you serious?

Personally, I think Houston is worth a pick in the 4-8 range, and I've had a few other coaches tell me the same

It was his first year, and averaged more than McGrath and all of the other top draft picks. Off the top of my head only WitherGUN averaged more, so yes as a 20 year old rebounding defender I think he is worth a pick of that value

We always have a little bias for our own players, but I did my research on Houston and he backed it up on field so I don't think 4-8 is out of the question at all

FWIW I wouldn't trade him for a pick in that range anyway - no real point on taking a shot on a kid who will only be 12 months younger when Houston has already shown he could be very good
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 03, 2017, 05:15:38 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Then how come you didnt put a :P when you said houston was worth a top 5 pick? or were you serious?

Personally, I think Houston is worth a pick in the 4-8 range, and I've had a few other coaches tell me the same

It was his first year, and averaged more than McGrath and all of the other top draft picks. Off the top of my head only WitherGUN averaged more, so yes as a 20 year old rebounding defender I think he is worth a pick of that value

We always have a little bias for our own players, but I did my research on Houston and he backed it up on field so I don't think 4-8 is out of the question at all

FWIW I wouldn't trade him for a pick in that range anyway - no real point on taking a shot on a kid who will only be 12 months younger when Houston has already shown he could be very good

are you really saying that you wouldn't take pick 4 for Houston?

1. Houston is 2 years older.
2. They are highly rated youngsters as opposed to a guy who didn't even get drafted.

dont get me wrong i rate Houston but if its Cerra/Dow/Brayshaw/Stephenson v Houston its not even close.

he is a good kick, but winning lose ball on a HBF isnt super impressive. He isnt even lock 22.



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 03, 2017, 05:17:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Then how come you didnt put a :P when you said houston was worth a top 5 pick? or were you serious?

Personally, I think Houston is worth a pick in the 4-8 range, and I've had a few other coaches tell me the same

It was his first year, and averaged more than McGrath and all of the other top draft picks. Off the top of my head only WitherGUN averaged more, so yes as a 20 year old rebounding defender I think he is worth a pick of that value

We always have a little bias for our own players, but I did my research on Houston and he backed it up on field so I don't think 4-8 is out of the question at all

FWIW I wouldn't trade him for a pick in that range anyway - no real point on taking a shot on a kid who will only be 12 months younger when Houston has already shown he could be very good
yeah good point, could probably get McGrath from Nige for him..
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on November 03, 2017, 05:27:17 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 05:17:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Then how come you didnt put a :P when you said houston was worth a top 5 pick? or were you serious?

Personally, I think Houston is worth a pick in the 4-8 range, and I've had a few other coaches tell me the same

It was his first year, and averaged more than McGrath and all of the other top draft picks. Off the top of my head only WitherGUN averaged more, so yes as a 20 year old rebounding defender I think he is worth a pick of that value

We always have a little bias for our own players, but I did my research on Houston and he backed it up on field so I don't think 4-8 is out of the question at all

FWIW I wouldn't trade him for a pick in that range anyway - no real point on taking a shot on a kid who will only be 12 months younger when Houston has already shown he could be very good
yeah good point, could probably get McGrath from Nige for him..
Post it up.  ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 03, 2017, 05:31:23 PM
Somone come at me with a top 5 pick for Harry Morrison
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 03, 2017, 05:33:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2017, 05:31:23 PM
Somone come at me with a top 5 pick for Harry Morrison
Best i can do is N7 + Duncan
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 03, 2017, 05:39:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 03, 2017, 05:33:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2017, 05:31:23 PM
Somone come at me with a top 5 pick for Harry Morrison
Best i can do is N7 + Duncan
Standard GL. King of the lowball
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 03, 2017, 05:15:38 PM
are you really saying that you wouldn't take pick 4 for Houston?

1. Houston is 2 years older.
2. They are highly rated youngsters as opposed to a guy who didn't even get drafted.

dont get me wrong i rate Houston but if its Cerra/Dow/Brayshaw/Stephenson v Houston its not even close.

he is a good kick, but winning lose ball on a HBF isnt super impressive. He isnt even lock 22.

1. 20 or 18, same shower in the scheme of things, even more so for a comp like WXV
2. There have been plenty of players who didn't get drafted that turned out very good

I don't care how he wins the ball, it's purely based on his SC output, which is good. He'll be best 22, if he already isn't

There's a lot less youngsters in def who score well vs mids, so as a def he his worth is justified to me

Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 05:17:32 PM
yeah good point, could probably get McGrath from Nige for him..

When did I say he was better than McGrath? I said he averaged more, and is worth a pick in the 4-8 range, not 1 like McGrath
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 06, 2017, 02:42:47 PM
Not much longer to go, so if any of this interests you, hit me up

Def: S Hurn (WC), R Tarrant (NM), L Henderson (Geel), B Reid (Coll), R Conca (Rich), S Gilbert (StK), L Keeffe (GWS), H Marsh (Syd)

Mid: J Selwood (Geel), S Higgins (NM), J Lewis (Melb), A Sexton (GC) K Langford (Ess) H Balic (Melb)

Ruck: K Tippett (Syd), E Ratugolea (Geel)

Fwd: JJ Kennedy (WC), E Betts (Adel), R Douglas (Adel), S Reid (Syd), D Johnstone (Melb), D Keilty (Melb)

Draft Picks: 45, 47, 49, 50, 69, 81, 84, 87
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 06, 2017, 03:55:22 PM
N26 + one or a combo of the following for a better pick

Adam Oxley - will be rookied by Coll
Nick Robbo - well known fact he'll be the new Rocky at Brissie
Brady Grey - should be fwd/mid
N42 - gun
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 06, 2017, 05:23:24 PM
Blakely, Newnes, Simpson, Witherden
Clarke, Brayshaw

Ryan Clarke will average 85 next year so he's a waste on the bench. Gus should be around the mark too provided he stays fit. (C)onnor and WitherGUN will likely never leave Toronto as long as I'm coach. I doubt I'll get any takers for Simmo even though he's a durable gun and could play another three seasons.

Looks like Jack Newnes will have to be the sacrificial lamb. 90.4, 88.2 and 88.3 (uninjured) the past three seasons. He's worth a 98 mid of the same age but nobody will pay that price so I'll raise the age up to 27yo or an average in the 91-94 range. Alternatively, I'd look at a forward of a similar age and average, or a 75ish forward if they are a bit younger.




Picks 32 + 34 + 40 for a better pick than 32 + two picks later than 34 and 40.
OR
Picks 32 + 34 + 40 for a depth forward or defender with upside.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 08, 2017, 04:13:54 PM
Joel Selwood could be on the move

Only 29 and has plenty of years left of premo scoring

We're looking for 2 lower averaging/younger starters in return, preferably mids or 1 mid/1 fwd

Hit me up if you're interested
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2017, 02:42:40 PM
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Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 09, 2017, 02:50:59 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on November 09, 2017, 03:07:47 PM
Andrew Swallow just announced his retirement.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-09/north-veteran-calls-it-quits-after-failed-move
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jay on November 09, 2017, 03:31:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 09, 2017, 03:07:47 PM
Andrew Swallow just announced his retirement.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-09/north-veteran-calls-it-quits-after-failed-move
:(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2017, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: Jay on November 09, 2017, 03:31:27 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 09, 2017, 03:07:47 PM
Andrew Swallow just announced his retirement.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-09/north-veteran-calls-it-quits-after-failed-move
:(

good thing you didn't sell him to me

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 09, 2017, 08:42:25 PM
On Discord atm, happy to discuss any deal

Looking for any cap fodder over 250

Also still looking to do deals, willing to part with any of my picks including N6, PSD1, Florent who have all been asked about, maybe even simpkin if the deal is right

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 09, 2017, 09:04:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 09, 2017, 02:42:40 PM
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Might have gone a little early with this...
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 10, 2017, 12:20:55 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 09, 2017, 09:04:14 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 09, 2017, 02:42:40 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e7/0a/ab/e70aab4393bbe88caf4187ffb3d2c084--deployment-quotes-military-deployment.jpg)

Might have gone a little early with this...
You havent seen my big counter yet though
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 10, 2017, 12:22:51 AM
Finish date: 11:59:59 PM AEDST, November 17
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on November 10, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
Finally got internet back so can talk some trades. If my Polec trade goes thorough I will have picks 2, 11, 12, 24, 61, still looking to upgrade them.

Players who could be moved on include: Luke Dunstan, Matthew Broadbent, Anthony Miles, Tyson Goldsack, GHS, Jordan Murdoch, Lewis Jetta, Jarryn Geary, Sam Wright, Lewis Melican, Mitch Hannan, Jacob Townsend, Kayle Kirby, Daniel Robinson, J
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 11, 2017, 04:51:01 PM
Sorry for delays, been a busy couple of days. I won't be able to make things formal til Monday or Tuesday, but I can see at least 16 coaches have voted, and I can't see any negs. So all 3 of those trades have auto-passed
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on November 11, 2017, 08:55:03 PM
Looking for cap spuds.

Nat Pick 43, 57, 91
PSD 31
Rook 7, 11, 13, 65

Robbie Fox, Jono O'Rourke, Michael Close, Nathan Brown, Jake Melksham, Mark Baguley, Gary Rohan, Jack Redpath, Sean Lemmens, Taylor Hunt, Colin Garland, Sam Rowe, Brendan Whitecross, Matthew Allen, Matthew White, Jordan Snadden, Jason Holmes, Corey Wagner, BEN JACOBS

All of these Rio legends are available for a slight cap upgrade.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2017, 01:04:43 PM
Garland has retired Levi ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2017, 08:20:48 PM
shower is about to get real... Ryan Lester on the table. Only got a few days left so make haste.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 13, 2017, 09:08:41 PM
Jack Steven
Jack Ziebell
Jack Redden
Jack Martin
Jack Darling
Jake Barrett
Jake Lloyd
Jeremy Howe
Jordan Foote
James Rose
Jordan Dawson

11 J's

St Kilda have 12. So need two more. Help a brother out

Josh Kelly
Jack Macrae
Josh P Kennedy
Joel Selwood
Jacob Townsend
Jarrod Witts
Josh J Kennedy
Jack Billings
Jack Steele
Jeremy McGovern
Jack Viney
Jarryd Lyons
Jeremy Cameron
Jordan Lewis
Justin Westhoff
Jarryd Roughead
Jack Gunston
Joe Daniher
Jack Newnes
Jack Sinclair
Jobe Watson
Jack Crisp
Jack Riewoldt
Jarrad McVeigh
Jarrad Waite
Jason Johannisen
Jack Graham
Jared Polec
Jonathon Patton
Jarrod Harbrow
Josh Jenkins
Jordan De Goey
Jake Lever
Jasper Pittard
Jamie MacMillan
Josh Caddy
Jack Watts
Jamie Elliott
James Sicily
James Harmes
Jack Fitzpatrick
Jonathon Griffin
James Kelly
Jordan Roughead
Jimmy Webster
Jayden Hunt
Jordan Murdoch
Jake Spencer
Jeremy Laidler
Jesse Hogan
Jeff Garlett
Jake Carlisle
Josh Bruce
Josh Smith
James Stewart
James Frawley
Jade Gresham
Jake Neade
Jarryn Geary
Jake Melksham
Josh Thomas
Jake Stringer
Jack Lonie
Jamie Cripps
Jacob Weitering
Jaeger O'Meara
Jackson Trengove
Jesse Lonergan
Joel Hamling
Jacob Hopper
Jarrod Berry
Jarman Impey
Jonathan Giles
Josh Walker
Jed Lamb
Jack Leslie
Jacob Allison
Jesse Joyce
Josh Hill
Josh Dunkley
Jarryd Blair
Jackson Ramsay
Jack Redpath
Jake Kelly
Jed Anderson
Jayden Short
Jed Bews
Josh Wagner
Jordan Gallucci
James Aish
Jake Kolodjashnij
Josh Gibson
Josh Green
Jesse White
Jack Hombsch
Jay Kennedy-Harris
Joshua Begley
James Cousins
Jackson Thurlow
Jason Castagna
Jayden Laverde
Jimmy Toumpas
Jack Silvagni
Josh Cowan
Josh Daicos
Jordan Cunico
Jack Bowes
James Parsons
Joshua Schoenfeld
Jonathon Beech
Josh Deluca
Joe Atley
Jy Simpkin
Jarrod Pickett
Jack Scrimshaw
Jarrad Jansen
Jackson Nelson
Josh Williams
Josh Schache
Jack Trengove
Joel Smith
Jack Frost
Jeremy Finlayson
Josh Battle
Jonathon Ceglar
Jackson Merrett
Jonathan O'Rourke
Jack Henry
Jack Maibaum
Jake Long
Jake Stein
Jake Waterman
Jamaine Jones
Jarrod Lienert
Jason Holmes
Jesse Glass-McCasker
Jesse Palmer
Jonathan Freeman
Jordan Ridley
Jordan Snadden
Josh Clayton
Josh Rotham
Joshua Prudden
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 13, 2017, 09:16:59 PM
Fuark, I shouldn't have traded the Toump :'(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 13, 2017, 09:20:42 PM
Is the J-Pack series still available?!?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2017, 09:21:49 PM
I can give you two J's at once

Jamaine Jones ;)

I'd send Jade Gresham your way, but he obviously isn't good enough to make the list  :-X :P ;D

Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2017, 09:20:42 PM
Is the J-Pack series still available?!?

That was a once in a lifetime offer
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 13, 2017, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2017, 09:20:42 PM
Is the J-Pack series still available?!?
Damn the J-pack would be seriously useful for cap right now :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 13, 2017, 09:25:35 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 13, 2017, 09:16:59 PM
Fuark, I shouldn't have traded the Toump :'(
I don't see Toump on that list?

:P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 13, 2017, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 13, 2017, 09:21:49 PM
I'd send Jade Gresham your way, but he obviously isn't good enough to make the list  :-X :P ;D
Better?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 13, 2017, 09:30:52 PM
Knew I should have held out for a better offer for Jed Anderson.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on November 13, 2017, 09:51:13 PM
Jack Henry and Jesse Glass-McCasker are available, Rico!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 14, 2017, 02:51:07 PM
N15 + Florent package on the market for a decent player
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 14, 2017, 03:58:26 PM
How decent?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 14, 2017, 04:19:15 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 14, 2017, 03:58:26 PM
How decent?
Any player half as good as ryan lester would do it i reckon, tough to find though :P More cap would be nice
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on November 14, 2017, 08:32:53 PM
I'm still looking for cap spuds. Send them my way.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on November 14, 2017, 09:16:01 PM
Jack Henry (100), Jesse Glass-McCasker (100), Ben Ronke (100) and Dale Morris (172) are all gonna be delisted from Cairo but we're happy to trade them for decent picks or players. Cap prices included for your convenience!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 12:03:35 AM
Got to 100 trades. Good work fellas.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 15, 2017, 12:07:03 AM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 12:03:35 AM
Got to 100 trades. Good work fellas.

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Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 15, 2017, 12:10:05 AM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 12:03:35 AM
Got to 100 trades. Good work fellas.
and 32 to Christchurch, congrats
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 15, 2017, 12:15:03 AM
Looking for an upgrade on Scooter/Redden
and an upgrade on Hartlett


Scooter: Ave 91 this year. Who needs to play every game when you have lists of 44. Better than Joel

Redden: Averaged 98 in the last 8 games of the H&A season when Pridda moved outta the midfield. Pridda and Mitchell gawwwwn. Been 103 x3 and 95+ x2 times so far in his career. NicNat back putting it on a platter for him. Gun. Best part of the RedRock combo

Hartlett: Before Hamish's recent dip in SC form, he went 92, 91, 90, 97, 101. Superstar. Better than Fiorini


Willing to throw up combinations of the above, and/or N26, Broomhead, Knight, etc
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 15, 2017, 02:04:34 PM
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Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 15, 2017, 02:48:22 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 15, 2017, 02:04:34 PM
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Not yet
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2017, 03:39:50 PM
Rip Moscow

Mullett to avg 100+ in 2018 now
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Hellopplz on November 15, 2017, 04:37:45 PM
Don't make me convince Bieber to represent PNL like he did the Canadian Believers.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 15, 2017, 06:47:18 PM
Ugh, devastating news for Carlton & Moscow

First Heppell, then Naitanui, now Docherty.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 15, 2017, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 15, 2017, 03:39:50 PM
Rip Moscow

Mullett to avg 100+ in 2018 now

And Simpson to average 70. Almost all of his cheap marks are a result of useless Docherty switches.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 08:25:20 PM
I'll take Simmo off your hands if you value him at 70.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 15, 2017, 08:36:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 08:25:20 PM
I'll take Simmo off your hands if you value him at 70.

Gary.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 08:42:28 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 15, 2017, 08:36:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 08:25:20 PM
I'll take Simmo off your hands if you value him at 70.

Gary.

3-way trade?

Who has Rohan?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Jroo on November 15, 2017, 08:43:09 PM
Wouldn't mind a PSD pick if anyone is after a rook pick
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on November 16, 2017, 12:37:54 AM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 08:42:28 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 15, 2017, 08:36:02 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 15, 2017, 08:25:20 PM
I'll take Simmo off your hands if you value him at 70.

Gary.

3-way trade?

Who has Rohan?

I do :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 16, 2017, 01:08:03 AM


Sam Docherty
Michael Hurley
Elliot Yeo
Rory Laird
Michael Hibberd
Brendon Goddard
Connor Blakely
Jeremy Howe
Bachar Houli
Kade Simpson
Zac Williams
Dylan Roberton
Daniel Rich
Brandon Ellis
Jeremy McGovern
Alex Rance
Shannon Hurn
Jack Newnes

114.7
102.5
102.1
100.2
99.2
97.4
94.3
94.1
94.1
93.9
93.9
92.6
91.5
91.4
90.7
89.5
88.6
88.2

18th highest averaging defender in the comp. Of the players above him, only Yeo, Laird, (C)onnor and Williams are younger. Don't think it's unreasonable to say he's a top 10 defender in the comp for value, surely. Saints have a lot of young talent coming through the midfield/wings - Billings, Gresham, Acres, Sinclair, as well as Picks 7 and 8 which will likely be used on midfielders. Should ensure that Noons spends enough time down back to keep DPP long-term.

Ideally would like another 95+ mid while also getting a defender in return, just in case there are any retarded DPPs yet again. Alternatively I would look at a forward at a similar age and average. More than happy to keep him but he's simply expendable for me.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2017, 01:38:39 AM
Quote from: Adamant on November 16, 2017, 01:08:03 AM


Sam Docherty
Michael Hurley
Elliot Yeo
Rory Laird
Michael Hibberd
Brendon Goddard
Connor Blakely
Jeremy Howe
Bachar Houli
Kade Simpson
Zac Williams
Dylan Roberton
Daniel Rich
Brandon Ellis
Jeremy McGovern
Alex Rance
Shannon Hurn
Jack Newnes

114.7
102.5
102.1
100.2
99.2
97.4
94.3
94.1
94.1
93.9
93.9
92.6
91.5
91.4
90.7
89.5
88.6
88.2

18th highest averaging defender in the comp. Of the players above him, only Yeo, Laird, (C)onnor and Williams are younger. Don't think it's unreasonable to say he's a top 10 defender in the comp for value, surely. Saints have a lot of young talent coming through the midfield/wings - Billings, Gresham, Acres, Sinclair, as well as Picks 7 and 8 which will likely be used on midfielders. Should ensure that Noons spends enough time down back to keep DPP long-term.

Ideally would like another 95+ mid while also getting a defender in return, just in case there are any retarded DPPs yet again. Alternatively I would look at a forward at a similar age and average. More than happy to keep him but he's simply expendable for me.

Thats his 2016 numbers he dropped to 84 didnt he?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 16, 2017, 01:51:47 AM
Quote from: Holz on November 16, 2017, 01:38:39 AM
Thats his 2016 numbers he dropped to 84 didnt he?

He averaged 88.2 without the 11 against Sydney where he got concussed in the first quarter. He hasn't missed a game in the past 4 seasons so I think it's fair to exclude it.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on November 16, 2017, 11:33:04 AM
Does everyone realise that trade period ends tomorrow night?

It's pretty disappointing to not see coaches making an extra effort to negotiate with others. I'm not signaling out anyone in-particular but being "busy" is NOT an excuse. I'm busy and still come on frequently. I know a lot of other coaches are busy but still make an effort.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2017, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: Adamant on November 16, 2017, 01:51:47 AM
Quote from: Holz on November 16, 2017, 01:38:39 AM
Thats his 2016 numbers he dropped to 84 didnt he?

He averaged 88.2 without the 11 against Sydney where he got concussed in the first quarter. He hasn't missed a game in the past 4 seasons so I think it's fair to exclude it.


fair enough. slight change to the list then,

add in  Jake Llyod averaged 91.5 and is younger then Newnes.
Steven May averaged 88.4

so 20th best defender and 5 are younger then him.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2017, 11:42:33 AM
I have plenty of list spaces.

Im happy to pick up a few players for one for teams that need to get under list size. Can help people trade up in the draft too
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 16, 2017, 01:07:04 PM
Harry Mckay + N23 + PSD1 + PSD8 package all going for 1 player, feel free to offer if you're interested
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 16, 2017, 01:29:11 PM
I guess N7 could be available for a player if i like them enough :p

Ideally a mid, maybe a defender but now that Mullett will avg 170 probably don't need one as much anymore
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 16, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
Have received offers for Lester from 14 teams. I'll wait on the other 3 before I start to hone in on a deal.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2017, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
Have received offers for Lester from 14 teams. I'll wait on the other 3 before I start to hone in on a deal.

you wont be getting one from me.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2017, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
Have received offers for Lester from 14 teams. I'll wait on the other 3 before I start to hone in on a deal.

Been there done that  :-*

I wonder who the 3rd team is that hasn't made an offer :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 16, 2017, 02:26:20 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2017, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
Have received offers for Lester from 14 teams. I'll wait on the other 3 before I start to hone in on a deal.

Been there done that  :-*

I wonder who the 3rd team is that hasn't made an offer :P
Clearly meow is joking....
Every other team has asked about him
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2017, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2017, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
Have received offers for Lester from 14 teams. I'll wait on the other 3 before I start to hone in on a deal.

Been there done that  :-*

I wonder who the 3rd team is that hasn't made an offer :P

probably 3 teams who has made offers and 14 who haven't bother to ask. Good players rarely get 5+ enquirers i doubt there is huge demand for lester. 
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2017, 02:49:13 PM
:P = joking/tongue in cheek

We all know 14 teams have not made offers - I was just playing off that

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 16, 2017, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 16, 2017, 02:49:13 PM
:P = joking/tongue in cheek

We all know 14 teams have not made offers - I was just playing off that
Yeah i was kidding as well, cleary not every team has messaged about him, we had like 4 teams wanting pendles :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 16, 2017, 03:15:06 PM
We're up to 19 teams now. Get in quick while you still have the chance.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on November 16, 2017, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2017, 03:15:06 PM
We're up to 19 teams now. Get in quick while you still have the chance.
Me continually asking for him doesn't count Meow
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on November 16, 2017, 03:28:09 PM
I've definitely ask 19 times this trade period. I suppose now is a good time to make it 20.

Hey meow, what would you like for him?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on November 16, 2017, 08:00:50 PM
Any and/or all of our picks on the table for a forward or two or several. Hit me up via PM or Discord!

Those picks are: N61, N65, N74, PSD6, PSD24, R1, R6, R24, R42, R60

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 16, 2017, 08:09:21 PM
I can't remember if anyone inquired about Crameri at all, but if so, he's about to be traded.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 16, 2017, 09:26:30 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 31, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
Currently delisting these guys:

Cam Hewett
Jesse Palmer
Jono Freeman
Jon Griffin
Liam Mackie
Lachie Hansen
Sam Fisher
Craig Bird
Stewart Crameri
Jimmy Toumpas
Brad Lynch

If you wanna punt on any of these blokes for a NAT or PSD pick, lemme know. Couple of those guys I might like to see if they get picked up by someone else or not, such as Crameri and Bird.
Not bad.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on November 16, 2017, 09:49:36 PM
Kolodjashnij + Cutler + Fiorini + Hartung + Milera

All on the table.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2017, 10:35:41 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 16, 2017, 09:49:36 PM
Kolodjashnij + Cutler + Fiorini + Hartung + Milera

All on the table.

Ill give pick 35 for fiorini
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 17, 2017, 04:57:27 PM
A touch under 8 hours to go  :o
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 17, 2017, 05:06:55 PM
Toronto could potentially have another 5-6 trades lined up. Just need cows to get online.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2017, 05:41:13 PM
Any chance we can push the deadline til Sunday night?

Friday night isn't ideal, considering people go out on Friday nights



Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on November 17, 2017, 05:52:24 PM
Taken a while but with Cap issues for the moment will be putting these players on the market.  Obvious want to retain value so willing to add picks to upgrade. Just looking for a decent starter.

Players being offered Darcy Gardiner, Kyle Hartigan, Will Langford and Jesse Lonergan. Willing to package up for a decent offer as well.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on November 17, 2017, 06:01:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2017, 05:41:13 PM
Any chance we can push the deadline til Sunday night?

Friday night isn't ideal, considering people go out on Friday nights
I mean, people also do things on their weekends as well, I don't think it makes that much of a difference.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 17, 2017, 06:14:09 PM
Can we extend it until the week before round 1?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 17, 2017, 06:16:47 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 17, 2017, 06:14:09 PM
Can we extend it until the week day before round 1?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 17, 2017, 06:18:13 PM
What are your potential trades? Deal with me instead. I'm online and I'm definitely a cow.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 17, 2017, 06:18:17 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2017, 05:41:13 PM
Any chance we can push the deadline til Sunday night?

Friday night isn't ideal, considering people go out on Friday nights

Fair request, but probably one that's made too late. Also, need extra time for any failed trades to re-negotiate before the AFL draft on Friday, and I need some time to do admin thingys.

Will try to remember for next year though.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 17, 2017, 06:20:46 PM
There's 6.5 hours to go. I could arrange 200 trades in that time.

What's the record?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 17, 2017, 06:23:58 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 17, 2017, 06:20:46 PM
There's 6.5 hours to go. I could arrange 200 trades in that time.

What's the record?
201
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 17, 2017, 06:24:11 PM
Assuming all pending trades pass, and taking into account force delistments (subject to change), every team bar 1 (they know who they are) is within the cap  :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on November 17, 2017, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 17, 2017, 06:20:46 PM
There's 6.5 hours to go. I could arrange 200 trades in that time.

What's the record?
It would probably take me 200 hours to make 6.5 trades with the way things have gone this period.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 17, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
I'm out this evening so if you send me an offer and I don't respond after a bit, just post it and I'll reject it around 2am
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 17, 2017, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 17, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
I'm out this evening so if you send me an offer and I don't respond after a bit, just post it and I'll reject it around 2am
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 17, 2017, 07:00:02 PM
A reminder, that you can confirm a trade AFTER the deadline, provided the trade is posted BEFORE the deadline.

I'm also using the default FF clock, which is like 5-6 mins off for me.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 17, 2017, 07:03:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 17, 2017, 07:00:02 PM
A reminder, that you can confirm a trade AFTER the deadline, provided the trade is posted BEFORE the deadline.

I'm also using the default FF clock, which is like 5-6 mins off for me.
That's just Tasmania being slightly off I'm pretty sure
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ringo on November 17, 2017, 10:17:21 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 17, 2017, 05:52:24 PM
Taken a while but with Cap issues for the moment will be putting these players on the market.  Obvious want to retain value so willing to add picks to upgrade. Just looking for a decent starter.

Players being offered Darcy Gardiner, Kyle Hartigan, Will Langford and Jesse Lonergan. Willing to package up for a decent offer as well.
Also wishing to package picks 27 and 30 for higher pick if any one interested. PSD 12 could also be included.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 17, 2017, 11:58:26 PM
Alright then, just over an hour to go unti trading closes!

Feel free to post up any deal you like involving Moscow players and I'll see if I like it enough to confirm tomorrow.   :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 18, 2017, 01:07:25 AM
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/39GU7rfRSfyo1TSxcGDI8A.png)

That's our last trade, as Rio sneaks home a penalty saving trade, I think.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2017, 09:32:04 AM
Another year, another trade period over

I'd say that overall it was a pretty successful trade period for the competition, but I think we have some areas to improve on moving forward

Ada the clear BOG for Trade Period 2017/18  :D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on November 18, 2017, 07:00:10 PM
Who had the biggest list turnover?

Rio only have 14 players still on the list that were there at the start of the trade period.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 18, 2017, 07:01:48 PM
I have 5.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 18, 2017, 07:06:42 PM
Pendlebury, Macrae, Witherden, Hopper and Lamb are the only ones that remain.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on November 18, 2017, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 18, 2017, 07:06:42 PM
Pendlebury, Macrae, Witherden, Hopper and Lamb are the only ones that remain.

I wonder what Lamb did to be that special?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 18, 2017, 07:31:22 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on November 18, 2017, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: Adamant on November 18, 2017, 07:06:42 PM
Pendlebury, Macrae, Witherden, Hopper and Lamb are the only ones that remain.

I wonder what Lamb did to be that special?

Mate, you're forgetting that Tommy Lamb captained us for the first two rounds last season. He's clearly a highly valued member of the playing group.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 18, 2017, 08:03:20 PM
Take a look at your best XV.

Now remove a 90 and 77 ave defender, a 94 ave mid and a 79 ave forward. You get nothing for these guys.

Imagine that you finished 11th for the past 2 seasons.

That's where Christchurch was coming from. We should have been heading for the bottom four based on that criteria. Pretty happy about how we're relevant again after some bulk trading.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 18, 2017, 09:02:20 PM
Good job meow - it's always better when a meow coached side is challenging :)

We only did 11 trades, which is insanely low for us, but nearly half of our best XV has changed  :D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 19, 2017, 03:25:25 PM
Toronto trade: Dom Tyson, Angus Brayshaw, Matt Rosa, Cam Pedersen, Zac Clarke, Josh Walker, Nick Smith, Pick 32, Pick 34 + Pick 80
Toronto receive: Kade Kolodjashnij, Brayden Fiorini, Allen Christensen, Matthew Leuenberger, Ben McKay, Robbie Fox, Matthew Allen, Pick 37 + PSD Pick 31

Rio de Janeiro trade: Kade Kolodjashnij, Brayden Fiorini, Tom Cutler, Daniel Rioli, Matthew Leuenberger + Pick 37
Rio de Janeiro receive: Dom Tyson, Angus Brayshaw, Matt Rosa, Cam Pedersen, Zac Clarke, Luke Brown, Josh Walker, Nick Smith, Pick 32, Pick 34 + Pick 80

Beijing trade: Allen Christensen + Luke Brown
Beijing receive: Tom Cutler + Daniel Rioli




Thanks to the watchful eye of a couple of coaches, this trade needs fixing guys. For example, Rio needs to be listed as trading these players.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on November 19, 2017, 03:43:46 PM
Was bound to make a typo with that many players involved haha. Levi already confirmed giving Fox + Allen + McKay + PSD31 in the confirmation thread:

Quote from: Levi434 on November 18, 2017, 12:25:52 AM
This trade needed to be done for cap reasons mainly. More than that it is a trade that helps each side out in areas of need. Toronto wanted to increase their back depth and get a young-gun mid as Adamant has already mentioned. Beijing wanted to get slightly younger and they love Rioli. Rio added a young superstar in Brayshaw to help build them into the future. Levi is also happy to get rid of the GC filth. A lot of this stuff is purely for cap as I stated. I was going to delist/not use Fox, Allen, McKay, PSD31 so I'm happy to move them on.

Confirmed.

But I'll repost it anyway.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 20, 2017, 12:36:32 PM
4 teams still to vote, 1 more team and I can auto-pass some trades:

New York Revolution
Pacific Islanders
PNL Reindeers
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 20, 2017, 06:15:59 PM
3 teams still to vote... all trades auto-pass, except these ones:

Trade 100
Berlin trade: Shaun Burgoyne, James Cousins + Pick 73
London trade: Dane Rampe + Pick 58

Trade 102

Dublin trade: Hugh Greenwood, Jacob Weitering + Mason Wood
Dublin recieve: Joel Selwood, Harley Balic, Mitchell Lewis + Pick 61

New York trade: Joel Selwood + Harley Balic
New York receive: Luke Dunstan + Hugh Greenwood

Mexico trade: Luke Dunstan, Mitchell Lewis + Pick 61
Mexico receive: Jacob Weitering + Mason Wood

Trade 112
Toronto trade: Dom Tyson, Angus Brayshaw, Matt Rosa, Cam Pedersen, Zac Clarke, Josh Walker, Nick Smith, Pick 32, Pick 34 + Pick 80
Toronto receive: Kade Kolodjashnij, Brayden Fiorini, Allen Christensen, Matthew Leuenberger, Ben McKay, Robbie Fox, Matthew Allen, Pick 37 + PSD Pick 31

Rio de Janeiro trade: Kade Kolodjashnij, Brayden Fiorini, Tom Cutler, Daniel Rioli, Matthew Leuenberger + Pick 37
Rio de Janeiro receive: Dom Tyson, Angus Brayshaw, Matt Rosa, Cam Pedersen, Zac Clarke, Luke Brown, Josh Walker, Nick Smith, Pick 32, Pick 34 + Pick 80

Beijing trade: Allen Christensen + Luke Brown
Beijing receive: Tom Cutler + Daniel Rioli

Trade 115
Toronto trade: Jack Newnes + Pick 37
New Delhi trade: Jack Redden + Pick 26

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on November 20, 2017, 06:17:25 PM
How that Henry for N61 trade auto-passed is beyond me
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 20, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 20, 2017, 06:17:25 PM
How that Henry for N61 trade auto-passed is beyond me

Pick 61 is actually needed for 2 other trades, so Trade 102 had better work for them :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on November 20, 2017, 06:40:11 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 20, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 20, 2017, 06:17:25 PM
How that Henry for N61 trade auto-passed is beyond me

Pick 61 is actually needed for 2 other trades, so Trade 102 had better work for them :P
I, for one, am gonna be filthy.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 21, 2017, 10:52:10 AM
2 coaches to vote, but the following trades are now auto-passed:

Trade 100
Berlin trade: Shaun Burgoyne, James Cousins + Pick 73
London trade: Dane Rampe + Pick 58

Trade 115
Toronto trade: Jack Newnes + Pick 37
New Delhi trade: Jack Redden + Pick 26
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 21, 2017, 10:54:34 AM
There certainly might be a few long posts coming up.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 22, 2017, 12:27:50 PM
In the interests of time, I'm just gonna make the verdicts on the final two trades:

PNL & Pacific still have to vote

Trade 102
Dublin trade: Hugh Greenwood, Jacob Weitering + Mason Wood 
Dublin recieve: Joel Selwood, Harley Balic, Mitchell Lewis + Pick 61

New York trade: Joel Selwood + Harley Balic 
New York receive: Luke Dunstan + Hugh Greenwood

Mexico trade: Luke Dunstan, Mitchell Lewis + Pick 61
Mexico receive: Jacob Weitering + Mason Wood 
Votes: 3
Coaches Comments: Felt Dublin was winning by too much, by trading unproven talent for a genuine captain option. Pointed to the failed Rocky deal as precedence.
Admin Comments: I personally didn't have a huge problem with the failed Rocky deal. For every argument saying Weitering is just as good as his current average, I think there is another argument saying he will be better. Mexico City obviously rates him, and yes, although Greenwood is a breakout player, the reality is that he was a 85 forward this year, and is a chance to retain it. I think he has shown enough to suggest he won't go the way of other 'mature age one hit wonders'. I think a relevant comparison here is Dunstan + 12 FOR JPK. You could argue Weitering is approximately Pick 12, and that Greenwood is approximately Dunstan. Ultimately, even if this trade got 5 votes, I don't think I disagree with the coaches enough to overturn it, if it came to it. Likewise if it got 6 votes, though. It's a fine position to sit on this fence of mine.
Verdict: PASS


Trade 112
Toronto trade: Dom Tyson, Angus Brayshaw, Matt Rosa, Cam Pedersen, Zac Clarke, Josh Walker, Nick Smith, Pick 32, Pick 34 + Pick 80
Toronto receive: Kade Kolodjashnij, Brayden Fiorini, Allen Christensen, Matthew Leuenberger, Ben McKay, Robbie Fox, Matthew Allen, Pick 37 + PSD Pick 31

Rio de Janeiro trade: Kade Kolodjashnij, Brayden Fiorini, Tom Cutler, Daniel Rioli, Matthew Leuenberger + Pick 37
Rio de Janeiro receive: Dom Tyson, Angus Brayshaw, Matt Rosa, Cam Pedersen, Zac Clarke, Luke Brown, Josh Walker, Nick Smith, Pick 32, Pick 34 + Pick 80

Beijing trade: Allen Christensen + Luke Brown
Beijing receive: Tom Cutler + Daniel Rioli

... some confusion here sorry guys, it got some votes that were attributed to the original error in the post, so I think I'll re-send it to be sure. Sorry for the delay in this, but I was waiting to see if Trade 102 was going to be negged, so I could send that trade in the same PM.

I won't be re-sending the revised trade to those that explicitly said they took the revision into account.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on November 22, 2017, 09:44:36 PM
Sad to see Jelwood go, but we're building a youthful midfield where we will develop our own players to be Revs for life, just like Jelly is a Dubliner

Fantasy Freako‏ @FantasyFreako
Always look at the way a player finishes the season. Luke Dunstan led the Saints for both #SuperCoach and #AFLFantasy points from Rnd 18 this year. #2018AFLProspectus

8)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 23, 2017, 12:09:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 21, 2017, 10:54:34 AM
There certainly might be a few long posts coming up.
any minute now
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on November 23, 2017, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 23, 2017, 12:09:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 21, 2017, 10:54:34 AM
There certainly might be a few long posts coming up.
any minute now

No need.

Happy i picked up a guy who looks like he will be as good as these guys combined.

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/1_18HaRi15MD4114.jpg)




Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on November 23, 2017, 01:36:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 23, 2017, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 23, 2017, 12:09:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 21, 2017, 10:54:34 AM
There certainly might be a few long posts coming up.
any minute now

No need.

Happy i picked up a guy who looks like he will be as good as these guys combined.

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/1_18HaRi15MD4114.jpg)
Dunno about that. Hale and Pops were guns
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on November 23, 2017, 01:49:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 23, 2017, 01:36:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 23, 2017, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 23, 2017, 12:09:03 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 21, 2017, 10:54:34 AM
There certainly might be a few long posts coming up.
any minute now

No need.

Happy i picked up a guy who looks like he will be as good as these guys combined.

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/AFL/Files/Images/1_18HaRi15MD4114.jpg)
Dunno about that. Hale and Pops were guns
Excuse me, Pops still is.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 24, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
There's 3 coaches to go (London, Pacific and Seoul), but I'm calling it.

Trade 112 has so far received 2 votes, with coaches feeling Toronto win by too much, and Beijing losing. Basically came down to a valuation of Christensen's worth.

Say if it did receive 5 votes though, I don't think it's unfair enough to overturn a PASS to a REJECT. So I'm gonna pass it.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on November 24, 2017, 04:44:23 PM
Thread and spreadsheet (https://jumpshare.com/v/PMb289YvLU1pDNBxRgmp) have been updated :) in the spreadsheet, I have highlighted the names of the currently 'forced delisted' in yellow. This is subject to change.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on November 24, 2017, 06:44:27 PM
Great work Purps.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 06:15:37 PM
So who has defenders?

I have mids all of a sudden.

Fyfe, JPK, Jones, Viney, Goddard, ZJones, Armitage and Bastinac will get centuries this year.

flowering champion data
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on December 01, 2017, 06:44:46 PM
I have defenders ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on December 01, 2017, 07:03:35 PM
You can shop at the Cairo Sands.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on December 01, 2017, 07:13:21 PM
Why help him out? Make Berlin have to play quality in the reserves and duds down back in the seniors. Unless you're determined to have them beat you when you play them, then go right ahead.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 07:37:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 01, 2017, 07:13:21 PM
Why help him out? Make Berlin have to play quality in the reserves and duds down back in the seniors. Unless you're determined to have them beat you when you play them, then go right ahead.

Ha, brutal. I love it.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on December 01, 2017, 07:41:43 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 07:37:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 01, 2017, 07:13:21 PM
Why help him out? Make Berlin have to play quality in the reserves and duds down back in the seniors. Unless you're determined to have them beat you when you play them, then go right ahead.

Ha, brutal. I love it.
No defender for you.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on December 01, 2017, 07:43:20 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 01, 2017, 07:37:21 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 01, 2017, 07:13:21 PM
Why help him out? Make Berlin have to play quality in the reserves and duds down back in the seniors. Unless you're determined to have them beat you when you play them, then go right ahead.

Ha, brutal. I love it.

Spewing that I gave you Lever now, could have extorted you plenty.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on December 03, 2017, 05:30:51 PM
Who wants mids?

Pendlebury, Macrae, Blakely, Prestia, Hall, Redden, Hopper, Fiorini, T. Kelly, Garlett, Mountford.

Hopefully the latter two get def status. flower me.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on December 04, 2017, 08:33:21 AM
Quote from: Adamant on December 03, 2017, 05:30:51 PM
Who wants mids?

Pendlebury, Macrae, Blakely, Prestia, Hall, Redden, Hopper, Fiorini, T. Kelly, Garlett, Mountford.

Hopefully the latter two get def status. flower me.
Hello
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 07, 2017, 01:25:44 PM
No real surprises for us with 2018 positions

Both Greenwood and Douglas losing FWD is annoying

Sexton as DEF only doesn't make sense

We'll be looking for a forward please :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on December 07, 2017, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 07, 2017, 01:25:44 PM
No real surprises for us with 2018 positions

Both Greenwood and Douglas losing FWD is annoying

Sexton as DEF only doesn't make sense

We'll be looking for a forward please :)
Hello and welcome to Cairo Sands forward shop, my name is Nigel, how can I help you?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on December 12, 2017, 07:58:32 PM
DEF: HEATH SHAW, JARRAD McVEIGH, TOM LANGDON, NATHAN WILSON
Harris Andrews, (C)onor McKenna, Cedric, Lewis Young, Dale Morris, Dylan Buckley, Eduardo Richards, Angus Schumacher (m), Sam Frost*, Logan Austin*

MID: FIERCE GRAPE, RYAN GRIFFEN, BRYCE GIBBS, MARC MURPHY, TOM LIBERATORE, TOM SCULLY
Gary Ablett jnr, Rupert Wills, Dimitri the Toump, Will Walker, Zac Bailey

RUC: AARON SANDILANDS
Sean Darcy, Tom Boyd, Brayden Crossley, Lachlan Filopovic*, Ryan Abbott*

FWD:
JARRAD WAITE, JAKE STRINGER, DANIEL WELLS (m), TOBY McLEAN (m)
Darcy Moore, Tory Dickson, James Stewart, Clay Smith, Brennan Cox (d), Rohan Bewick (m), Josh Daicos (m), Brent Daniels (m), Tyler Brown (m)

No position assigned:
Tyrone Vickery*

No major surprises so probably not much warranting a reason to trade, other than Boyd not keeping forward status. The big one is that Big Ty isn't available to be selected in SC, which majorly screws up my plans. I was certain that he was going to be a mid, so that definitely enables me to bring in another midfielder this trade period as all my well thought out plans have just gone out the window.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: upthemaidens on December 12, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
Are you looking at trading in some walking frames?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on December 12, 2017, 10:55:02 PM
What are you offering? A walking frame + Jed Lamb for Luke Parker?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 12, 2017, 11:48:11 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 12, 2017, 10:55:02 PM
What are you offering? A walking frame + Jed Lamb for Luke Parker?

Bwhahahahahaha!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on December 13, 2017, 10:16:26 AM
Updated spreadsheet :) just click the download button on the top right corner from the link below

This includes all the 2018 positions, and I'm a bit more confident these ones are accurate compared to what I posted the other day.

WXV 2017 Trade Centre (https://jumpshare.com/v/PMb289YvLU1pDNBxRgmp)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on December 13, 2017, 04:16:03 PM
To reiterate, looking for a defender. A starting defender.

*sigh* I'm offering up Zak Jones to do so, if I like the defender. Bastinac, Armitage, or Goddard also available.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on December 13, 2017, 04:36:07 PM
Looking to trade 1 or 2 of these guys, can afford to lose a bit of cap now

Shane Edwards, Cale Hooker, Koby Stevens, Webster, Curnow

All other players negotiable as well, hit me up
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on December 13, 2017, 05:38:59 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 13, 2017, 04:16:03 PM
To reiterate, looking for a defender. A starting defender.

*sigh* I'm offering up Zak Jones to do so, if I like the defender. Bastinac, Armitage, or Goddard also available.
Hartlett will average 100 again next year ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on December 13, 2017, 05:43:15 PM
Not really sure what NDT are after

It'd be nice to upgrade on JZ, Scooter or Newnes in the middle
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 13, 2017, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 13, 2017, 05:43:15 PM
Not really sure what NDT are after

It'd be nice to upgrade on JZ, Scooter or Newnes in the middle

I'm sure it would be  :P
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on December 13, 2017, 07:16:28 PM
Cam Pedersen 85ave R/F available for a mid or forward.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 13, 2017, 07:17:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8NavF6V.png)

Let me know if there's anything you like :)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on December 13, 2017, 07:31:27 PM
There's a dude called Esava Ratugolea? How good.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on December 14, 2017, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 13, 2017, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 13, 2017, 05:43:15 PM
Not really sure what NDT are after

It'd be nice to upgrade on JZ, Scooter or Newnes in the middle

I'm sure it would be  :P

Talk to us when you can compete. New York? More like New Dork!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on December 14, 2017, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 14, 2017, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 13, 2017, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 13, 2017, 05:43:15 PM
Not really sure what NDT are after

It'd be nice to upgrade on JZ, Scooter or Newnes in the middle

I'm sure it would be  :P

Talk to us when you can compete. New York? More like New Dork!

Thats alot of trash talk for a team you just crawled over by 2 points to beat in the finals with HGA.

no Crouch to save you next year.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on December 14, 2017, 12:35:09 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 14, 2017, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 14, 2017, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 13, 2017, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 13, 2017, 05:43:15 PM
Not really sure what NDT are after

It'd be nice to upgrade on JZ, Scooter or Newnes in the middle

I'm sure it would be  :P

Talk to us when you can compete. New York? More like New Dork!

Thats alot of trash talk for a team you just crawled over by 2 points to beat in the finals with HGA.

no Crouch to save you next year.
Crouch is dead to us. Hanners is the new King of Delhi.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on December 14, 2017, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 14, 2017, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 14, 2017, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 13, 2017, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 13, 2017, 05:43:15 PM
Not really sure what NDT are after

It'd be nice to upgrade on JZ, Scooter or Newnes in the middle

I'm sure it would be  :P

Talk to us when you can compete. New York? More like New Dork!

Thats alot of trash talk for a team you just crawled over by 2 points to beat in the finals with HGA.

no Crouch to save you next year.

But we won? I don't see the point, we've earnt our trash-talk license

MeneGOATa > Crouch
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2017, 01:34:34 PM
ele clearly going full retard
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on December 14, 2017, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2017, 01:34:34 PM
ele clearly going full retard

Straight to the personal attacks, if you can't handle the heat then stay out of the kitchen ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on December 14, 2017, 01:56:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 14, 2017, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2017, 01:34:34 PM
ele clearly going full retard

Straight to the personal attacks, if you can't handle the heat then stay out of the kitchen ;)

Ele is right

if you cant handle attacks from a mediocre team like NDT. Imagine if Dublin started taking pot shots at you.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2017, 02:01:33 PM
Personal attacks? LMAO

Rico said he wouldn't mind upgrading some players (which obviously all of us would) to which I said I'm sure it would be nice to

You're the one who blew it out of proportion with your reply, so maybe it's you that needs to stay out of the kitchen ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on December 14, 2017, 02:30:25 PM
Lol come on RD you should know by now most of what we say or all of what Ele says is a pisstake

No shower it'd be nice to upgrade those boys. It'd be nice to do it without moving a single one of our starting XV too.

Please don't send your offers all at once
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on December 14, 2017, 02:39:59 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 14, 2017, 01:56:49 PM
Quote from: elephants on December 14, 2017, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2017, 01:34:34 PM
ele clearly going full retard

Straight to the personal attacks, if you can't handle the heat then stay out of the kitchen ;)

Ele is right

if you cant handle attacks from a mediocre team like NDT. Imagine if Dublin started taking pie shots at you.
Pfft Dublin aren't anything to be scared of anymore.
Fwd line is pie
Goldy sharing with Pruess is pie
Defence full of pie key defenders
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Nige on December 14, 2017, 03:06:28 PM
Water is wet.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on December 14, 2017, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: Nige on December 14, 2017, 03:06:28 PM
Water is wet.

Thats a really debatable statement actually.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: elephants on December 14, 2017, 03:48:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2017, 02:01:33 PM
Personal attacks? LMAO

Rico said he wouldn't mind upgrading some players (which obviously all of us would) to which I said I'm sure it would be nice to

You're the one who blew it out of proportion with your reply, so maybe it's you that needs to stay out of the kitchen ;)

Lel...

Taking the mickey out of a team name that was assigned to you by using the very bad word "dork"
vs
Calling someone a retard

People say Ross Lyon is the most defensive coach in the AFL... Well I think we've found the most defensive coach in WXV!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on December 14, 2017, 04:33:08 PM
Would like to upgrade Danger plz
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 14, 2017, 04:34:15 PM
 ::)

Your choice of words is irrelevant. You really think I take offence to being called Dorks haha  ;D

The fact you even replied to what I initially said in the first place, and the way you did is what was "going full retard" IE/ you're response was way ott to what I said

Anyway, this discussion is pointless - let's get back to talkin trades!  :D
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on December 14, 2017, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 14, 2017, 04:33:08 PM
Would like to upgrade Danger plz

Griff not up for trade sorry.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Ricochet on December 14, 2017, 04:56:42 PM
2x Dangers?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on December 14, 2017, 05:17:38 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 14, 2017, 04:33:08 PM
Would like to upgrade Danger plz

Dustin is staying at Dublin.

Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on January 16, 2018, 04:53:26 PM
Like, a starting defender? Please?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on January 17, 2018, 11:21:12 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 16, 2018, 04:53:26 PM
Like, a starting defender? Please?

Wilson, Shaw, McVeigh, Langdon. Take your pick.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on January 23, 2018, 09:14:06 AM
In 1999 the Crows gave up pick 77 for Scott Welsh and pick 67. The Jed Anderson trade isn't outrageous.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on January 23, 2018, 11:52:13 AM
Quote from: meow meow on January 23, 2018, 09:14:06 AM
In 1999 the Crows gave up pick 77 for Scott Welsh and pick 67. The Jed Anderson trade isn't outrageous.

I wish I still had Jed :'(
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on January 27, 2018, 05:46:58 PM
About 4 days left :)

I have potential plans to trade either Goddard or armitage for a starting defender FWIW. Enquire! You might be surprised.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Toga on January 28, 2018, 05:42:26 PM
Considering trading Sam Mayes, Jayden Hunt and/or Tommy Cutler for a forward. PM me if interested ;)
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: GoLions on January 29, 2018, 09:05:14 PM
Wouldn't be opposed to trading a forward for a mid or defender
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on January 31, 2018, 04:22:30 PM
Trade period closes at midnight tonight :o
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on January 31, 2018, 05:52:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 31, 2018, 04:22:30 PM
Trade period closes at midnight tonight :o

Odds on there not being another trade go down?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Holz on January 31, 2018, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 31, 2018, 05:52:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 31, 2018, 04:22:30 PM
Trade period closes at midnight tonight :o

Odds on there not being another trade go down?

id say low
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Adamant on January 31, 2018, 06:42:48 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 31, 2018, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: Levi434 on January 31, 2018, 05:52:10 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 31, 2018, 04:22:30 PM
Trade period closes at midnight tonight :o

Odds on there not being another trade go down?

id say low

Blockbuster deal!
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on January 31, 2018, 07:48:13 PM
And what does that trade have to do with DPP or positional changes?
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Purple 77 on January 31, 2018, 07:48:48 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 31, 2018, 07:48:13 PM
And what does that trade have to do with DPP or positional changes?

we got rid of that requirement
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: iZander on January 31, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: meow meow on January 31, 2018, 07:48:13 PM
And what does that trade have to do with DPP or positional changes?
gunston didnt get def, if needed haha
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: Levi434 on February 01, 2018, 01:03:55 AM
Trade period closed. Countdown begins until meow opens up 2018-19 Trade Confab threads.
Title: Re: WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017
Post by: meow meow on February 01, 2018, 08:18:47 AM
Quote from: Levi434 on February 01, 2018, 01:03:55 AM
Trade period closed. Countdown begins until meow opens up 2018-19 Trade Confab threads.

You mean this one?

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110439.0.html