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Here's the basic template, will be going light in the forward line this year, picking the top 6 looks like being a real lottery.
The only problems with going light on one line is that it doesn't leave a huge amount of room to move on the others, and your normally scraping the bottom of the barrel for a solid scoring rookie for the last onfield position.
For me im not a fan of picking Adams with the plethora of Def options available that have similar scoring potential with alot less risk. Also Hartlett is one id avoid personally, possibly downgrade him to a rookie/rookie priced and upgrade a FWD to a Premium (Gunston, Franklin, Greene types)
Quote from: LordSneeze on January 26, 2017, 10:51:14 PM
The only problems with going light on one line is that it doesn't leave a huge amount of room to move on the others, and your normally scraping the bottom of the barrel for a solid scoring rookie for the last onfield position.
For me im not a fan of picking Adams with the plethora of Def options available that have similar scoring potential with alot less risk. Also Hartlett is one id avoid personally, possibly downgrade him to a rookie/rookie priced and upgrade a FWD to a Premium (Gunston, Franklin, Greene types)
Will assess the fitness of Adams, hasn't played a full season yet so there are some concerns. As for Hartlett, he's worth the risk in my opinion, although much will depend on where he plays in the preseason. He had a stinker last year but prior to that averaged 101 & 97, that's definitely worthy of a starting gig. When I look at the forwards in the same price range, Roughy is more of a risk & Bennell is on the nose with Rossy and we all know what happens in those situations.
As for the rookies, most are DPP, this is a deliberate strategy which enables me to pick off bubble boys on two lines. Big fan of Hugh, could easily average 80. Bowes has played plenty of senior footy and done reasonably well. Parfitt has a 46 disposal game to his name & has starred in the seniors. Generally the problem with going shallow in defence is that the rookies often throw up 50's. Happy with McGrath at D5 & I expect Ryan to slot in at D6. Beyond that I don't see enormous scoring potential.
As for Thomas, decent bet at that price although I may look at Ainsworth as well.
Here's a version with a stacked midfield and cheap rookies. Probably won't happen but I thought I'd try and see if I could squeeze in 15 potential keepers (Murphy & Sandi included).
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Agree that it probably won't happen as there are a stack of 117k and cheaper rookies in that side... something would have to give but it does look strong.
Actually do not mind it = However as has been said relying a lot on low priced rookies playing. However you have the option of dropping Murphy and.or Swallow down to gain cash for playing rooks.
Yup like this side ... game I will move to similar if the cheap rookies present
Hanners to Rocky also frees up some cash to fiddle with the $117,000 & $123,000 rookies.
That could entail Darcy Cameron to Pickett & Luke Ryan to Mitchell Hibberd.
Or Fisher to Powell-Pepper.
Or Eddy to Ben Long.
It's a good template with most of the risk being borne in the forward line. But with heaps of potential options ie. Willem Drew, Shai Bolton, Joshua Begley, Nick O'Kearney etc. I think there's some chance the cheapies will be available.
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very good side. however, I hope you have a couple 100k left for upgrading rookies come round 1 as you have a lot of basement players.
i like the setup, 50/50 hartlett myself but if others are set on him i dont think ill talk them out of it
also are we sure murph is a 100% keeper? hasnt been a top end (110+ave) scorer for a while
Nice team but I think maybe your could get a 500k plus player instead of Hartlett.
Quote from: PureSwag on January 30, 2017, 06:31:00 PM
Nice team but I think maybe your could get a 500k plus player instead of Hartlett.
Don't have the $$ to upgrade, I'm also banking on Hartlett to make a return to the midfield and for Bonner to become the rebounder, in which case 90+ is on the cards.
Quote from: uncleswagy on January 30, 2017, 06:09:45 PM
i like the setup, 50/50 hartlett myself but if others are set on him i dont think ill talk them out of it
also are we sure murph is a 100% keeper? hasnt been a top end (110+ave) scorer for a while
Not fussed if Murphy averages 105, that's enough until late season when I can use him for cover.
Quote from: Money Shot on January 30, 2017, 05:50:29 PM
very good side. however, I hope you have a couple 100k left for upgrading rookies come round 1 as you have a lot of basement players.
I'm confident this set up will hold up once the rookies emerge. Here's the prognosis.
McGrath/McCluggage - one will be picked and this may depend upon the availability of cheap rookies on either line.
160k defender - Hampton/Scharenberg/Keefe
D6-D8- I need any 3 out of Ryan, Stewart, Long, Hibberd & Berry
Mids - Should get the two cheapies I need, especially with the DPP. You'd expect Myers to be a lock. Freeman/Powell-Pepper/Graham are the most likely IMO.
102k - Smith/Eddy (good chance one emerges)
117k - Parfitt I'm very bullish on, ran a 14.6 beep so has the fitness, he's also starred in SANFL reserves & seniors, Bolton has been raising some eyebrows down at Punt Road - made some senior players look like witches hats (and we currently have Morris playing as the small forward).
123k - Pickett a lock I think, if not I'd expect Zac Fisher to be picked which fills a midfield hole. Balic also a chance with Barlow out of the picture.
Aaron Black also an outside chance to replace Kersten.
I'm absolutely set on this structure if the pieces fall into place, I don't think it's as remote as many may believe. This draft was a beauty for depth, I even suspect others will emerge who haven't been mentioned. Poholke & Begley just a couple of others who have AFL ready bodies.
I'm never as excited about rookie availability as others but this year I think there is a chance many emerge.
My team I have allocated the funds to expensive rookies with the hope I can ignore them and get the cheap ones in when the real stuff comes along.
I like it
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Quote from: uncleswagy on January 30, 2017, 06:09:45 PM
i like the setup, 50/50 hartlett myself but if others are set on him i dont think ill talk them out of it
also are we sure murph is a 100% keeper? hasnt been a top end (110+ave) scorer for a while
Not fussed if Murphy averages 105, that's enough until late season when I can use him for cover.
fair call, if you get a good run with injury and hit your trades right at worst case he'll be a handy m9 late year
Very good reasoning. Like the side a lot.
Like the team a lot and your reasoning.
Montagna looks like being a nice POD as well and with his rumoured more time running through mids could be gold.
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Just a few tweaks here and there, still think this structure will hold out but in the event that I need a Scharenberg or Keeffe type selection then Shaw down to Laird seems the obvious choice.
We have exactly the same structure and maybe 3 players different on field haha
Quote from: eaglesman on February 24, 2017, 12:58:51 PM
We have exactly the same structure and maybe 3 players different on field haha
I reckon this is the way to go with very few rookie mids emerging from the pack. After Laird's performance tonight downgrading Shaw shouldn't hurt a bit. Leaves me some wriggle room to bring Keefe/Bowes/Schoenmakers.
The other switch I'm contemplating is Murphy down to O'Meara & Hartlett up to Laird.
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We have exactly the same structure and maybe 3 players different on field haha
I reckon this is the way to go with very few rookie mids emerging from the pack. After Laird's performance tonight downgrading Shaw shouldn't hurt a bit. Leaves me some wriggle room to bring Keefe/Bowes/Schoenmakers.
The other switch I'm contemplating is Murphy down to O'Meara & Hartlett up to Laird.
I've been fairly out of the loop for the past week, but thought Joey was dealing with a minor calf issue atm? So off that, would think Joey to Laird would be a good idea.
But then again I could be way off the mark ahaha
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Quote from: eaglesman on February 24, 2017, 12:58:51 PM
We have exactly the same structure and maybe 3 players different on field haha
I reckon this is the way to go with very few rookie mids emerging from the pack. After Laird's performance tonight downgrading Shaw shouldn't hurt a bit. Leaves me some wriggle room to bring Keefe/Bowes/Schoenmakers.
The other switch I'm contemplating is Murphy down to O'Meara & Hartlett up to Laird.
I've been fairly out of the loop for the past week, but thought Joey was dealing with a minor calf issue atm? So off that, would think Joey to Laird would be a good idea.
But then again I could be way off the mark ahaha
Not a bad suggestion. Butler also looked good tonight so could easily fill a hole at F7.
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We have exactly the same structure and maybe 3 players different on field haha
I reckon this is the way to go with very few rookie mids emerging from the pack. After Laird's performance tonight downgrading Shaw shouldn't hurt a bit. Leaves me some wriggle room to bring Keefe/Bowes/Schoenmakers.
The other switch I'm contemplating is Murphy down to O'Meara & Hartlett up to Laird.
I've been fairly out of the loop for the past week, but thought Joey was dealing with a minor calf issue atm? So off that, would think Joey to Laird would be a good idea.
But then again I could be way off the mark ahaha
Not a bad suggestion. Butler also looked good tonight so could easily fill a hole at F7.
I asked Nige about Butler and he said he wouldn't be best 22. You reckon he's a chance?
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Quote from: eaglesman on February 24, 2017, 12:58:51 PM
We have exactly the same structure and maybe 3 players different on field haha
I reckon this is the way to go with very few rookie mids emerging from the pack. After Laird's performance tonight downgrading Shaw shouldn't hurt a bit. Leaves me some wriggle room to bring Keefe/Bowes/Schoenmakers.
The other switch I'm contemplating is Murphy down to O'Meara & Hartlett up to Laird.
I've been fairly out of the loop for the past week, but thought Joey was dealing with a minor calf issue atm? So off that, would think Joey to Laird would be a good idea.
But then again I could be way off the mark ahaha
Not a bad suggestion. Butler also looked good tonight so could easily fill a hole at F7.
I asked Nige about Butler and he said he wouldn't be best 22. You reckon he's a chance?
Needs to back it up but he's a definite chance based on tonight's form. We don't have too many to come into the line-up, Rance being the obvious, Houli and maybe Short.
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Quote from: eaglesman on February 24, 2017, 12:58:51 PM
We have exactly the same structure and maybe 3 players different on field haha
I reckon this is the way to go with very few rookie mids emerging from the pack. After Laird's performance tonight downgrading Shaw shouldn't hurt a bit. Leaves me some wriggle room to bring Keefe/Bowes/Schoenmakers.
The other switch I'm contemplating is Murphy down to O'Meara & Hartlett up to Laird.
I've been fairly out of the loop for the past week, but thought Joey was dealing with a minor calf issue atm? So off that, would think Joey to Laird would be a good idea.
But then again I could be way off the mark ahaha
Not a bad suggestion. Butler also looked good tonight so could easily fill a hole at F7.
I asked Nige about Butler and he said he wouldn't be best 22. You reckon he's a chance?
Needs to back it up but he's a definite chance based on tonight's form. We don't have too many to come into the line-up, Rance being the obvious, Houli and maybe Short.
Yeah, you guys seemed pretty close to full strength. There's probably those 1-2 spots available which will be decided in the next 2 weeks, as long as it's a cheap rookie I don't mind exactly who it is then haha
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Quote from: eaglesman on February 24, 2017, 12:58:51 PM
We have exactly the same structure and maybe 3 players different on field haha
I reckon this is the way to go with very few rookie mids emerging from the pack. After Laird's performance tonight downgrading Shaw shouldn't hurt a bit. Leaves me some wriggle room to bring Keefe/Bowes/Schoenmakers.
The other switch I'm contemplating is Murphy down to O'Meara & Hartlett up to Laird.
I've been fairly out of the loop for the past week, but thought Joey was dealing with a minor calf issue atm? So off that, would think Joey to Laird would be a good idea.
But then again I could be way off the mark ahaha
Not a bad suggestion. Butler also looked good tonight so could easily fill a hole at F7.
I asked Nige about Butler and he said he wouldn't be best 22. You reckon he's a chance?
Needs to back it up but he's a definite chance based on tonight's form. We don't have too many to come into the line-up, Rance being the obvious, Houli and maybe Short.
Yeah, you guys seemed pretty close to full strength. There's probably those 1-2 spots available which will be decided in the next 2 weeks, as long as it's a cheap rookie I don't mind exactly who it is then haha
I see Butler, Bolton, Lennon, Lloyd fighting for 2 spots (Rioli locked in). Short plays for sure, Hunt/Conca likely to get pushed out. If Butler plays like that again he should get a gig. Finished off last year in the 2's pretty well as I understand too.
No way Lennon gets picked, looked like a bush footballer against the Crows, Bolton is still pretty light so unlikely. Lloyd is a mainstay so it's out of Conca, Butler & Hunt. Based on form you'd have to pick Butler but Hardwick often picks Conca when in doubt.
I am fairly sure that Ben Long (St Kilda) cant play until R3 due to suspension.
Quote from: Fid on February 27, 2017, 06:45:18 PM
I am fairly sure that Ben Long (St Kilda) cant play until R3 due to suspension.
Fixed in this version, the big move is Bont & McCluggage to O'Meara & Roughie.
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Great side, strong mids with Swallow @ M7
I currently have him @ M6 with more expensive rooks
Although he looks ready made with his size, Begley won't play round 1. Will start in the VFL.
Quote from: pendles93 on February 27, 2017, 10:35:43 PM
Although he looks ready made with his size, Begley won't play round 1. Will start in the VFL.
If he doesn't make the cut I'll probably downgrade Shaw to Adams and play Schoenmakers.
I always like your teams. We always have similar structures.
I don't like Murphy but that's a personal preference selection. I would rather Jobe in the 400s or upgrade but that's just me.
Got any mail on beams? If fit he has to be picked imo
Nice looking side mate
Montags I am little concerned about - just expect their youngsters to take another step up this year, and his recent soft tissue injury is a little worrying for someone his age
Beams will play in the next JLT, and there's no doubt he is capable of 115+ but I just cannot see him playing 22 games which is why I've decided to pass, which feels weird not selecting him but I can def see why you have
Looking good man
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2017, 11:27:18 PM
Nice looking side mate
Montags I am little concerned about - just expect their youngsters to take another step up this year, and his recent soft tissue injury is a little worrying for someone his age
Beams will play in the next JLT, and there's no doubt he is capable of 115+ but I just cannot see him playing 22 games which is why I've decided to pass, which feels weird not selecting him but I can def see why you have
Looking good man
Where did you see beams is playing next jlt?
Quote from: eaglesman on February 27, 2017, 11:07:50 PM
I always like your teams. We always have similar structures.
I don't like Murphy but that's a personal preference selection. I would rather Jobe in the 400s or upgrade but that's just me.
Got any mail on beams? If fit he has to be picked imo
The theory behind the Murphy selection is he'll be a stepping stone to Joel Selwood or Bont (both who have a high standard deviation). Murphy won't rake in the monster scores but he's good for 90-105 most weeks which should push him around the 500k mark. If Selwood is true to form then a straight swap is definitely possible.
As for Beams, this is more out of hope but if he doesn't get up I'll need to reassess. I may even downgrade Shaw to Hartlett and bring back Bont.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2017, 11:27:18 PM
Nice looking side mate
Montags I am little concerned about - just expect their youngsters to take another step up this year, and his recent soft tissue injury is a little worrying for someone his age
Beams will play in the next JLT, and there's no doubt he is capable of 115+ but I just cannot see him playing 22 games which is why I've decided to pass, which feels weird not selecting him but I can def see why you have
Looking good man
I've picked Monty based on his durability in years gone by but downgrading to Adams isn't the worst move (although he has a wretched record with playing out the year). I think with Beams one stands to make good cash, that would be a worst case scenario. If I have to trade him with an extra 150k in the pocket then this is as good as picking a Brodie or Bowes but I should get some additional points on the board.
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Where did you see beams is playing next jlt?
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2017-02-21/dayne-beams-expected-return
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Where did you see beams is playing next jlt?
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2017-02-21/dayne-beams-expected-return
Thanks locked and loaded
Just did some research on Monty, minor calf strain. Not sure what to make of it but hopefully he gets a run in the preseason.
Quote from: Bully on February 28, 2017, 02:09:28 AM
Just did some research on Monty, minor calf strain. Not sure what to make of it but hopefully he gets a run in the preseason.
Joey lines up round 1 and I think he will I'll be swapping docherty for him 100% if I need the cash elsewhere
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Where did you see beams is playing next jlt?
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2017-02-21/dayne-beams-expected-return
Thanks locked and loaded
Can confirm that Beams has done plenty of running and weights work and is looking great. Obviously with his injury history club is exercising extreme caution. He has played in the 2 intra club trials and looked good.
With Monty a very good chance for round 1 & the rookie situation crystalising, here's the latest set up.
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Deep midfield, but somehow still looks balanced across the park, nice team.
Quote from: Goosey on March 02, 2017, 10:58:24 PM
Deep midfield, but somehow still looks balanced across the park, nice team.
Cheers, feel a bit better about the JS in the forward line with Schoey & Black. Having Ryder & Cameron in there also enables me a handy loophole option on the forward bench, can swing Strnadica on the field when the good scores roll in.
:)
Nice team right across the board and should score well from day 1. Just a little curious about where your cash generation will be coming from ?? Cheers and best of luck mate. ;)
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on March 05, 2017, 12:08:38 AM
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Nice team right across the board and should score well from day 1. Just a little curious about where your cash generation will be coming from ?? Cheers and best of luck mate. ;)
I have a feeling this year will be tougher than most when it comes to cash generation. The midfield used to be the money maker but I just don't see too many options on the horizon. Graham for the Tiges is one who will come in, Myers another certainty, perhaps Poholke and Zac Fisher.
But bear in mind there are many ways to skin a cat. By picking players like Murphy, O'Meara & Swallow, sideways trading to fallen premos is a distinct possibility. I've deliberately avoided players like Selwood & Bont because they are high standard deviation types. Selwood routinely drops to 500k every year and I plan on capitalising when that moment arises.
The same goes for the forward line, particularly given most teams will need to take a look at the KP forwards like JJK, Riewoldt (x2), Lynch & Buddy.
I totally agree with your midfield assessment Bully. I have done almost the same thing but have Watson instead of Rocky. Plenty of options in midfield bench to make money on top of the bottom 4 mids on the ground who will rise in $$$$. Plenty of options in backline and some in fwd line to really cash in. I feel there will be plenty of sides looking the same by rd 1
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Nice team right across the board and should score well from day 1. Just a little curious about where your cash generation will be coming from ?? Cheers and best of luck mate. ;)
Where is every teams cash generation coming from is my question?
Still plenty of nuggets to be found at prices $160k and below. Don't think it's a concern at all. I count 8-10 in my side that should play enough early games to cash out. The mids will take care of themselves - Plenty of side trading if need be when Prems drop price like they tend to do.
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Haven't committed to this formation but I'm considering it. The theory would be to wait until Gawn drops 100k and then swing Nank back to the forward line. This is a much riskier team with Murphy & Heeney in there but I'm guessing the 2017 winner will need to put their balls on the line to some degree.
Ballsy team Bully. mid price madness, hope it pays off mate
Quote from: crowls on March 06, 2017, 12:29:44 AM
Ballsy team Bully. mid price madness, hope it pays off mate
I've decided against it, think this is a better formation. F6 is still vulnerable but hopefully Parfitt gets the job done with a 60 average. It basically comes down to Shaw & Schoenmakers versus Franklin & Marchbank.
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Ok, we're almost locked and loaded and the two big issues as I see are the rucks and the forward rookies. I can categorically state I will not pick Goldy or Gawn while Preuss & Spencer are in the side. So it then becomes a question of playing Nank at F2 and picking Taranto or playing Witts at F2 and Nank in the forward line. At this stage I'm liking Witts' job security just a bit more and also feel his upside is better. Also by picking the more expensive player means a correction trade will be smooth sailing.
Whilst this formation looks a bit unconventional I'm happy enough with the scoring potential. Loading the forward line is largely due to the lack of rookies. The back rookies look good and with Otten playing well again I'm happy with the scoring potential. Still a couple of scores to be settled Joey vs Laird vs Adams & Bont vs Rocky. This may also depend on rookie prices.
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Ok, we're almost locked and loaded and the two big issues as I see are the rucks and the forward rookies. I can categorically state I will not pick Goldy or Gawn while Preuss & Spencer are in the side. So it then becomes a question of playing Nank at F2 and picking Taranto or playing Witts at F2 and Nank in the forward line. At this stage I'm liking Witts' job security just a bit more and also feel his upside is better. Also by picking the more expensive player means a correction trade will be smooth sailing.
Whilst this formation looks a bit unconventional I'm happy enough with the scoring potential. Loading the forward line is largely due to the lack of rookies. The back rookies look good and with Otten playing well again I'm happy with the scoring potential. Still a couple of scores to be settled Joey vs Laird vs Adams & Bont vs Rocky. This may also depend on rookie prices.
I look forward to being ranked almost identical for round 1 and then seeing who trades better haha. This will work.
Just looking at the draw I'm quietly confident he can produce some decent scores.
vs Ess (Bellchambers, Leuy) HS - 70
vs Freo (Sandilands) HS - 82
vs Carl (Kreuzer) HS - 135
vs Bris (Martin) HS - 70
vs North (Goldy) HS - 73
vs Geel (Smith) HS - 97 *was against Smith when playing for GC
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2017, 08:50:48 PM
Just looking at the draw I'm quietly confident he can produce some decent scores.
vs Ess (Bellchambers, Leuy) HS - 70
vs Freo (Sandilands) HS - 82
vs Carl (Kreuzer) HS - 135
vs Bris (Martin) HS - 70
vs North (Goldy) HS - 73
vs Geel (Smith) HS - 97 *was against Smith when playing for GC
Legit I think you should stop justifying it so we don't wake up other people. I rate about 6/7 people's opinion in this forum yourself included so i assume others on here would feel the same with regards your views. I must of posted the nankwittylands in the rucks thread mid way through witts 2nd quarter on Thursday. Go with ya gut.
Just slight correction on Witts opponents (was looking at wrong fixture but the numbers still stack up)
vs Bris (70)
vs GWS (116)
vs Haw (81)
vs Carl (135)
vs Adel (88)
vs North (73)
vs Geel (97)
When looking at other rookies around the 200k mark I have to say the only player capable of churning out similar numbers would be Marchbank and most would have penciled him in. Don't think Taranto has the same ceiling but as a fallback option he's fine. So if by round 8 Witts can get 5 price rises at a 75 average he'll be 323k, that's a reasonable return and trading to a Goldy or Gawn should only involve another 200k or so.
It's worth noting that both Gawn & Goldy are high standard deviation players. Gawn's worst run last year involved a 49 & 63 in rounds 8 & 9. Goldy had a 49 in round 6 and 3 consecutive sub 100 scores late in the season.
Of course there's a chance that these guys go bang from the outset but that's obviously the risk one takes with such a strategy.
And here's Goldy's 2016 scores stacked up against this year's fixture.
vs West Coast (110)
vs Geelong (83)
vs GWS (99)
vs Bulldogs (49 & 127)
vs Freo (121) ** against Sandi (44 & 116)
vs GC (125) ** against Witts (134)
vs Adelaide (126, 99, 124)
vs Sydney (82 & 112)
Solid numbers but not scarily good that he becomes financially unobtainable. My instincts tell me he'll hit 520k at some point prior to the bye.
Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2017, 01:23:11 AM
And here's Goldy's 2016 scores stacked up against this year's fixture.
vs West Coast (110)
vs Geelong (83)
vs GWS (99)
vs Bulldogs (49 & 127)
vs Freo (121) ** against Sandi (44 & 116)
vs GC (125) ** against Witts (134)
vs Adelaide (126, 99, 124)
vs Sydney (82 & 112)
Solid numbers but not scarily good that he becomes financially unobtainable. My instincts tell me he'll hit 520k at some point prior to the bye.
Wont be nic nat or lycett for the eagles round 1, if they actually do play petrie as a ruck (im still in shock that this is a thing) Goldy could legitimately go 200 plus round 1
But your right his price will drop, not sure if anyone here picked up the jock reynolds mag but they do point out that every player over 550k drops in price at some point pre bye, by an average of 89k by round 9..
Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2017, 01:23:11 AM
And here's Goldy's 2016 scores stacked up against this year's fixture.
vs West Coast (110)
vs Geelong (83)
vs GWS (99)
vs Bulldogs (49 & 127)
vs Freo (121) ** against Sandi (44 & 116)
vs GC (125) ** against Witts (134)
vs Adelaide (126, 99, 124)
vs Sydney (82 & 112)
Solid numbers but not scarily good that he becomes financially unobtainable. My instincts tell me he'll hit 520k at some point prior to the bye.
That's all good but that is the past he might go worse or he might go better no one knows how he will go or if his price will rise or fall that it is all just hearsay ;)
Quote from: shaker on March 12, 2017, 01:18:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2017, 01:23:11 AM
And here's Goldy's 2016 scores stacked up against this year's fixture.
vs West Coast (110)
vs Geelong (83)
vs GWS (99)
vs Bulldogs (49 & 127)
vs Freo (121) ** against Sandi (44 & 116)
vs GC (125) ** against Witts (134)
vs Adelaide (126, 99, 124)
vs Sydney (82 & 112)
Solid numbers but not scarily good that he becomes financially unobtainable. My instincts tell me he'll hit 520k at some point prior to the bye.
That's all good but that is the past he might go worse or he might go better no one knows how he will go or if his price will rise or fall that it is all just hearsay ;)
His price will fall, I'm confident of that.
1) He's coming off a knee injury which looks to be degenerative
2) His average dropped to 98.9 with Daw in the team (can expect Preuss to have similar impact)
3) His average drops in losses - 2015 (141 in wins, 108 in losses), 2016 (119 in wins, 99 in losses)
4) North have been gutted in the midfield losing Wells, Dal Santo & Harvey.
5) The draw looks as tough as it could be with six 2016 finalists in the firs 8 rounds and Sandi thrown in the mix. Can see a 0-5 start to the year.
6) As Uncleswagy pointed out, most players above 550k drop in price
I take your point that the past is the past but unless you have a crystal ball then history is all we have to make informed decisions. I don't think Goldy is a bad pick but there's no way he produces anything resembling 2015. My guess is 105 for the year.
Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2017, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on March 12, 2017, 01:18:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2017, 01:23:11 AM
And here's Goldy's 2016 scores stacked up against this year's fixture.
vs West Coast (110)
vs Geelong (83)
vs GWS (99)
vs Bulldogs (49 & 127)
vs Freo (121) ** against Sandi (44 & 116)
vs GC (125) ** against Witts (134)
vs Adelaide (126, 99, 124)
vs Sydney (82 & 112)
Solid numbers but not scarily good that he becomes financially unobtainable. My instincts tell me he'll hit 520k at some point prior to the bye.
That's all good but that is the past he might go worse or he might go better no one knows how he will go or if his price will rise or fall that it is all just hearsay ;)
His price will fall, I'm confident of that.
1) He's coming off a knee injury which looks to be degenerative
2) His average dropped to 98.9 with Daw in the team (can expect Preuss to have similar impact)
3) His average drops in losses - 2015 (141 in wins, 108 in losses), 2016 (119 in wins, 99 in losses)
4) North have been gutted in the midfield losing Wells, Dal Santo & Harvey.
5) The draw looks as tough as it could be with six 2016 finalists in the firs 8 rounds and Sandi thrown in the mix. Can see a 0-5 start to the year.
6) As Uncleswagy pointed out, most players above 550k drop in price
I take your point that the past is the past but unless you have a crystal ball then history is all we have to make informed decisions. I don't think Goldy is a bad pick but there's no way he produces anything resembling 2015. My guess is 105 for the year.
All fair points except number 4 something ive said before in other threads and thats harvey has not been a midfielder for at least 3 years and even before that he wasnt in the guts much, and nicky dal played more outside than inside. you can also argue wells wont hurt too much considering he barley played the three years before last (hence his rookie price last year) and that didnt stop goldy from going big
Also as much as i love Pruess for us, I'm not sure he'll even play. remember all those talks about Currie a couple years back and he rarely saw time in the ones
Quote from: uncleswagy on March 12, 2017, 03:43:45 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2017, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: shaker on March 12, 2017, 01:18:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2017, 01:23:11 AM
And here's Goldy's 2016 scores stacked up against this year's fixture.
vs West Coast (110)
vs Geelong (83)
vs GWS (99)
vs Bulldogs (49 & 127)
vs Freo (121) ** against Sandi (44 & 116)
vs GC (125) ** against Witts (134)
vs Adelaide (126, 99, 124)
vs Sydney (82 & 112)
Solid numbers but not scarily good that he becomes financially unobtainable. My instincts tell me he'll hit 520k at some point prior to the bye.
That's all good but that is the past he might go worse or he might go better no one knows how he will go or if his price will rise or fall that it is all just hearsay ;)
His price will fall, I'm confident of that.
1) He's coming off a knee injury which looks to be degenerative
2) His average dropped to 98.9 with Daw in the team (can expect Preuss to have similar impact)
3) His average drops in losses - 2015 (141 in wins, 108 in losses), 2016 (119 in wins, 99 in losses)
4) North have been gutted in the midfield losing Wells, Dal Santo & Harvey.
5) The draw looks as tough as it could be with six 2016 finalists in the firs 8 rounds and Sandi thrown in the mix. Can see a 0-5 start to the year.
6) As Uncleswagy pointed out, most players above 550k drop in price
I take your point that the past is the past but unless you have a crystal ball then history is all we have to make informed decisions. I don't think Goldy is a bad pick but there's no way he produces anything resembling 2015. My guess is 105 for the year.
All fair points except number 4 something ive said before in other threads and thats harvey has not been a midfielder for at least 3 years and even before that he wasnt in the guts much, and nicky dal played more outside than inside. you can also argue wells wont hurt too much considering he barley played the three years before last (hence his rookie price last year) and that didnt stop goldy from going big
Also as much as i love Pruess for us, I'm not sure he'll even play. remember all those talks about Currie a couple years back and he rarely saw time in the ones
Even having Daw in there isn't the perfect scenario for Goldy's output. With the club in rebuild mode I'm predicting things to lighten off for Goldy, wouldn't be surprised if there's a fair bit of experimentation from here.
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Here's the final cut pending rookie selections, the big move is the inclusion of Selwood, Higgins & Ryder for Murphy, Buddy & Greene. I'm hoping such a move has brought in an extra keeper, Higgins has been the best scoring forward in the preseason (TOG) so god willing, I hope he can play out the season and return to a 95 average. Ryder comes in as an extra layer of insurance for Witts but realistically, I would have picked him anyway once his role was established. Such a set up enables me to cull Witts when the time is right and wait for a good buying opportunity with Gawn or Goldy. The other benefit with two ruck forwards is the forward loophole opens up, this will be very handy once Nankervis is pushed to F7. I've also brought in Selwood as I was planning to bring him in for Murphy down the track. Super happy with this team and reckon that Witts has strengthened the line-up no end. All contingencies are now in place in the event he gets dropped.
Gutsy setup with Witts at R2 as I think Nichols comes in when fit. You have explained reasoning though and sound Plan B.
Just need to watch Rd 9 though with rookies to ensure they have been upgraded - No cover in forward line if not.
Overall sound team with some risks but most mitigated,
Don't understand the reasoning in having both Ryder and Nank in the FWD's both Sandi and Witts can't be moved to the FWD's so you can only move one ruck up to the rucks , would not it be better to just go with one maybe get Taranto or W.H.E and spend the rest to upgrade somewhere else ?
Quote from: shaker on March 13, 2017, 04:13:02 PM
Don't understand the reasoning in having both Ryder and Nank in the FWD's both Sandi and Witts can't be moved to the FWD's so you can only move one ruck up to the rucks , would not it be better to just go with one maybe get Taranto or W.H.E and spend the rest to upgrade somewhere else ?
First point is Witts could be culled at any stage, in which case I will have an immediate replacement & back-up if another ruck isn't ripe for the picking. It's insurance within insurance.
Second point is I want to take advantage of Strnadica as a forward loophole. The plan will be to alternate Ryder & Nank at F7 and attempt to pick off all the 90+ scores.
Third point is Ryder has the potential to to be a top 6 forward this year. The last time he was sole ruck he averaged 105, I don't necessarily expect that type of return but anything north of 95 will be a success.
Fourth point is many people are going with Sandi, Nank & Ryder which is effectively the same set up without having a rookie holding down R2. Witts will be gone by R7 at the latest, hopefully with a 150k profit.
Quote from: Bully on March 13, 2017, 05:03:00 PM
Quote from: shaker on March 13, 2017, 04:13:02 PM
Don't understand the reasoning in having both Ryder and Nank in the FWD's both Sandi and Witts can't be moved to the FWD's so you can only move one ruck up to the rucks , would not it be better to just go with one maybe get Taranto or W.H.E and spend the rest to upgrade somewhere else ?
First point is Witts could be culled at any stage, in which case I will have an immediate replacement & back-up if another ruck isn't ripe for the picking. It's insurance within insurance.
Second point is I want to take advantage of Strnadica as a forward loophole. The plan will be to alternate Ryder & Nank at F7 and attempt to pick off all the 90+ scores.
Third point is Ryder has the potential to to be a top 6 forward this year. The last time he was sole ruck he averaged 105, I don't necessarily expect that type of return but anything north of 95 will be a success.
Fourth point is many people are going with Sandi, Nank & Ryder which is effectively the same set up without having a rookie holding down R2. Witts will be gone by R7 at the latest, hopefully with a 150k profit.
Ha ha sounds a bit complicated to me for everything to fall into place , do you have any cash left ? because you are talking about FWD loopholes and really is Houston going to get a game R1 same with Miles and Parfitt in the mids ?
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Quote from: Bully on March 13, 2017, 05:03:00 PM
Quote from: shaker on March 13, 2017, 04:13:02 PM
Don't understand the reasoning in having both Ryder and Nank in the FWD's both Sandi and Witts can't be moved to the FWD's so you can only move one ruck up to the rucks , would not it be better to just go with one maybe get Taranto or W.H.E and spend the rest to upgrade somewhere else ?
First point is Witts could be culled at any stage, in which case I will have an immediate replacement & back-up if another ruck isn't ripe for the picking. It's insurance within insurance.
Second point is I want to take advantage of Strnadica as a forward loophole. The plan will be to alternate Ryder & Nank at F7 and attempt to pick off all the 90+ scores.
Third point is Ryder has the potential to to be a top 6 forward this year. The last time he was sole ruck he averaged 105, I don't necessarily expect that type of return but anything north of 95 will be a success.
Fourth point is many people are going with Sandi, Nank & Ryder which is effectively the same set up without having a rookie holding down R2. Witts will be gone by R7 at the latest, hopefully with a 150k profit.
Ha ha sounds a bit complicated to me for everything to fall into place , do you have any cash left ? because you are talking about FWD loopholes and really is Houston going to get a game R1 same with Miles and Parfitt in the mids ?
Forward loops are very straightforward and very handy towards the end of the season. As far as money goes, I'm fine, I will simply downgrade Selwood to Bont and pick up Barrett or SPP & move Parfitt to the forwards. The rookies are far from finalised.
This is another variation dependent on the rookie situation. Barrett obviously needs to be upgraded first.
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With defence rookies looking shaky again think I'm just going to play it safe. Bont to Docherty limits the uncertainty, if Hibberd/EVW don't make the cut then Ben Long comes in. Thought about Watson & Thurlow but that's just one less keeper. Points wise I probably lose with Watson 95 + Thurlow 75 versus Docherty 105 + SPP 60. But a trade is worth more than a few points lost here and there.
Ha, and now you have the identical same backline as me
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 16, 2017, 12:25:46 AM
Ha, and now you have the identical same backline as me
I would imagine our teams are fairly similar. Was doing some research on North's likely team and very few had both EVW & Hibberd in the team. Figured it was best to plan around that. Can SPP hold down M8? Certainly hope so, just needs to clean up the clangers. Forwards are rock solid and I think all the rookies are good chances to play. There's also Houston & Butler as back ups.
Just something to keep an eye on going forward Bully 11 of your current onfield 22 have Rd 13 bye so need to watch with trading. However in saying that most teams I am seeing will have the same issue with Rd 13 bye me included.
Apart from that Nice Team.
Quote from: Ringo on March 16, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
Just something to keep an eye on going forward Bully 11 of your current onfield 22 have Rd 13 bye so need to watch with trading. However in saying that most teams I am seeing will have the same issue with Rd 13 bye me included.
Apart from that Nice Team.
Note to oneself : hold Hampton & Otten until round 12 (if possible).
Quote from: Bully on March 16, 2017, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 16, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
Just something to keep an eye on going forward Bully 11 of your current onfield 22 have Rd 13 bye so need to watch with trading. However in saying that most teams I am seeing will have the same issue with Rd 13 bye me included.
Apart from that Nice Team.
Note to oneself : hold Hampton & Otten until round 12 (if possible).
My strategy has always been to have more but players in the last bye. Doesn't that just make obvious sense ?
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Quote from: Bully on March 16, 2017, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 16, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
Just something to keep an eye on going forward Bully 11 of your current onfield 22 have Rd 13 bye so need to watch with trading. However in saying that most teams I am seeing will have the same issue with Rd 13 bye me included.
Apart from that Nice Team.
Note to oneself : hold Hampton & Otten until round 12 (if possible).
My strategy has always been to have more but players in the last bye. Doesn't that just make obvious sense ?
Rookies who have the last bye are ideal, we have 6 trades to sort out the coverage. I usually cull 3 and bring in 3 keepers to address the imbalance. There's also guys like Gray & Gaz who could be really useful after round 9.
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Quote from: eaglesman on March 16, 2017, 09:08:45 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 16, 2017, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 16, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
Just something to keep an eye on going forward Bully 11 of your current onfield 22 have Rd 13 bye so need to watch with trading. However in saying that most teams I am seeing will have the same issue with Rd 13 bye me included.
Apart from that Nice Team.
Note to oneself : hold Hampton & Otten until round 12 (if possible).
My strategy has always been to have more but players in the last bye. Doesn't that just make obvious sense ?
Rookies who have the last bye are ideal, we have 6 trades to sort out the coverage. I usually cull 3 and bring in 3 keepers to address the imbalance. There's also guys like Gray & Gaz who could be really useful after round 9.
Exactly. As long as you don't load up on round 11 bye players everything will
Be fine
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Solid start to the year with an opening score of 2215. Probably should have been 2233 had I been able to take Swallow off the field and replace him with Barrett but dems da breaks. The Butler loophole strategy worked well with 15 points gained on Witts' score, this will be repeated for the next two weeks (will be able to toggle Strnadica & Ryder to grab the highest score).
So how has the Witts strategy faired? So far it's reaped 96 (Butler loop), 111 from Higgins & 87 from Ryder = 294
Compared to Goldy 105 + 44 (Taranto) + 88 (WHE) = 237
Net result = +57
As far as trades go, still trying to fit Murphy in with a correctional trade but can't see any way to get it done. Will have to leave that one for the moment. Need more out of Roughie but he gets a reprieve for now. Steele could easily replace him if the result is the same next week. No other pressing issues apart from rookies, Pickett looks like a dud, Riley Knight looked really good so there's one possibility. Otten/Hibberd to Newman is another potential correction trade pending team selections.
Bloody hell
Treloar vs Jelwood
Butler vs Florent
Higgins vs Steele
That's the only 3 differences between our teams. I did manage to trade Swallow to GHS so that gives us 4 out of 30 lol feel like I need to make some trades to get a little unique Haha
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 28, 2017, 10:34:19 AM
Bloody hell
Treloar vs Jelwood
Butler vs Florent
Higgins vs Steele
That's the only 3 differences between our teams. I did manage to trade Swallow to GHS so that gives us 4 out of 30 lol feel like I need to make some trades to get a little unique Haha
lol our head to head would be pretty boring. Holding off trading this week as I want to assess the form of Murphy, Steele, Roughie, Hannan & WHE. Here's some tempting correctional trades.
Roughie to WHE, Swallow to Murphy
Roughie to Steele
Roughie to Hannan, Pickett to Steele
Roughie to Hannan, Swallow to Murphy, 100k in bank
All good in the hood, finished round 2 with 2299 points and have moved up to 2998 in the rankings. Team is well set with rookies so have opted to trade out Ryder & Roughie for WHE & Murphy. This will leave 140k in the bank for a potential Witts to Gawn trade over the coming weeks. Witts on track for 370k so I just need one stinker from Gawn over the next month. Other targets are Simpson/Adams in defence & Buddy in the forward line. Think I've got a good nucleus with Higgins & Nank proving their worth, it now becomes a question of filling the last two spots. The midfield is also super strong now & I will look at picking off some quality mids once they throw in some stinkers. I didn't select Selwood & Bont due to their high standard deviation, I think it's a matter of before they throw in a poor game. Treloar disappointing but I expect a 140+ score in the near future.
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Good week scoring 2338 and smashing through to the top 1000. Currently ranked 555 which is very funny (Thai joke right there) and can honestly say I believe that I'm well in this contest. Very happy with the current composition of the team and the ruck implosion has put me in a strong position to fix up other areas of the ground whilst the competition scrambles to deal with Gawn & Goldy. Hibberd definitely goes for Newman, don't have to think twice about that. The next move will be to get rid of O'Meara and bring in Miller. Whilst I believe O'Meara will score a few more 80's & 90's, his cash generation has completely stalled and I don't like the thought of him playing for another 6-7 rounds. Touk looks a good bet to be in the top 10 forwards this year and his price is still super attractive for a player who can regularly churn out tons. The next focus will be getting M8 sorted with a super premo, so many to choose from right now so will give it another couple of weeks before nailing down a Bont, Martin, Selwood or Rocky.
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Good week scoring 2338 and smashing through to the top 1000. Currently ranked 555 which is very funny (Thai joke right there) and can honestly say I believe that I'm well in this contest. Very happy with the current composition of the team and the ruck implosion has put me in a strong position to fix up other areas of the ground whilst the competition scrambles to deal with Gawn & Goldy. Hibberd definitely goes for Newman, don't have to think twice about that. The next move will be to get rid of O'Meara and bring in Miller. Whilst I believe O'Meara will score a few more 80's & 90's, his cash generation has completely stalled and I don't like the thought of him playing for another 6-7 rounds. Touk looks a good bet to be in the top 10 forwards this year and his price is still super attractive for a player who can regularly churn out tons. The next focus will be getting M8 sorted with a super premo, so many to choose from right now so will give it another couple of weeks before nailing down a Bont, Martin, Selwood or Rocky.
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team is going great bully. looks good and looks like it could climb higher in the ranks
Quote from: Bully on April 10, 2017, 02:01:06 AM
Good week scoring 2338 and smashing through to the top 1000. Currently ranked 555 which is very funny (Thai joke right there) and can honestly say I believe that I'm well in this contest. Very happy with the current composition of the team and the ruck implosion has put me in a strong position to fix up other areas of the ground whilst the competition scrambles to deal with Gawn & Goldy. Hibberd definitely goes for Newman, don't have to think twice about that. The next move will be to get rid of O'Meara and bring in Miller. Whilst I believe O'Meara will score a few more 80's & 90's, his cash generation has completely stalled and I don't like the thought of him playing for another 6-7 rounds. Touk looks a good bet to be in the top 10 forwards this year and his price is still super attractive for a player who can regularly churn out tons. The next focus will be getting M8 sorted with a super premo, so many to choose from right now so will give it another couple of weeks before nailing down a Bont, Martin, Selwood or Rocky.
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Team looks good Bully, thinking of doing similar trades myself.
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It's been a while since I updated this thread but the story has been pretty wretched, have tumbled out of the top 1000 and really need to make a move this bye period otherwise it's curtains for the year. Currently stand at 4223 which is well off the pace. To be honest I'm happy the team but haven't had much luck with untimely injuries, captains picks and rookie fieldings. Trades are done for the week, Selwood comes in for Marchbank. Next week I'm keen to get one of Gray or Wines, will work that out closer to the time but it could simply be Stewart to Scharenberg, Fisher to Greenwood & Barrett to Gray/Wines. Want Rocky but can't see how I can get him with the cows I have available.
Now just for some reasoning behind grabbing one of the Port guys.
* The extra match they play is worth a minimum of 5 points on their year ending average. I'm confident Wines inparticular can finish strongly and I'll jump on Gray if it appears he's over the the groin niggles. Obviously needs a run in the guts this week.
* Both players will be dirt cheap, Wines forecast to be 465k & Gray 444k.
* At a bare minimum they will be cash cows. Now I've read the comments on the Bye Buster thread and whilst their are some relevant counterarguments, there's a hell of a lot of repetition that can be found on the Walters thread. Given what just transpired over the weekend you'd reckon their would be a bit more open mindedness about picking fallen premos to raise cash. The doomsday scenarios seem to be a bit melodramatic.
* Just some key info on Wines - 4 scores over 120 so far and a top score of 145. Is in a form slump but the same could be said for many of the other fallen premos. The fact his starting price was so low is in part why he finds himself in the bargain basement bin. Last year at the equivalent time he came home with a 105 average and this would be about what I would be expecting. The extra game pushes that average into premo territory.
* Don't need to extrapolate on Gray, he's a proven gun with 3 years of elite scoring. Just needs to get fit and spend more time in the middle. Will be a keen observer over the weekend.
* Port have a great draw coming up, Essendon, Hawthorn & Brisbane is about as soft as you could ask for. I expect Port to win all those games and I expect them to take the lionshare of points against Hawthorn & Brisbane.
* Barrett to Gray/Wines will be 150-170k, can't see any other way to get such bang for the buck and I'm keen to ditch any potential 30 or 40 from best 18.
Anyhow, best to see what this week throws up and then go from there. Hopefully everything goes to plan.
Can not fault the plan you have. Have read the arguments myself and at worst if you have trades left an upgrade or a nice M9.
I have similar thoughts to you with Port and Suns players hence why I am getting Harbrow this week and Wingard next week. Think both will average 90/95 which is ok for D6/F6.
I have extrapolated an argument in the Coaches help thread about trading Murphy to Gray/Wines before next week's games.
Depends what you believe Murph will average for the rest of the year. If 110 is what you think I would consider trading him to Gray or Wines. I am strongly looking at it.
Given the dire cash generation options and Ports very good draw it is something to consider.
Quote from: AaronKirk on May 24, 2017, 12:06:55 AM
I have extrapolated an argument in the Coaches help thread about trading Murphy to Gray/Wines before next week's games.
Depends what you believe Murph will average for the rest of the year. If 110 is what you think I would consider trading him to Gray or Wines. I am strongly looking at it.
Given the dire cash generation options and Ports very good draw it is something to consider.
An interesting thought, I'm not against trading a premium to a premium, I did it with Gaz and brought in JPK. Sound logic although I didn't make as much cash as I anticipated, was banking on Gaz to hit 640k but he only managed 611k. On the flip side, JPK dropped more than I thought so I still managed to bring in the cash for another upgrade.
As for Murph specifically, will watch his BE closely, if he piles on some extra $$ then this is a definite consideration. In fact any mid will be in the same category if they appear overvalued. Murphy expected to hit 558k.
Just on Wines, his real value is 520k based on his existing average. Another score around the 100 mark will maintain that intrinsic value but give him a 60k discount, plus you get an additional match. If Wines only fills M8 for 3 weeks and the difference between him and the lowest scorer in round 11 is 60 then you are adding 20 points to his average. Let's say I wait for Rocky and he maintains a 120 average over the bye period.
Wines 100 x 3 = 300
Rocky 120 x 2 = 240
+ 60 from rookie = 300
This gap blows out the longer I keep Wines at M8 however my team is pretty close to full strength and I will have 13 trades after bringing Wines in. My priorities in round 12 & 13 will be Otten to Hibberd/Roberton & Sandi to Martin/Gawn. That leaves plenty of opportunity after the byes to focus on fixing M8 either through an upgrade or moving Wines to M9.
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So after the byes I'm pretty much back where I started, very disappointed as I usually make up ground over this period but my trades stunk to high heaven. Picked up Rocky instead of Wines (despite arguing to the contrary) and lost over 100 points. Picked Stef Martin instead of Yeo/Goldy and lost 50 points. Traded Newman for Hibberd and lost 30 points. So ultimately my poor calls have ended up placing me well outside the top 1000 (1629) and the season is done and dusted. I guess from here I'll be looking at finishing inside the top 1000, one silver lining is the team is complete with the exception of Witts. Gawn will come in provided his forms warrants a trade. I may even consider one of the better performing rucks like Kreuzer. 5 trades left so not a lot of wriggle room but I'm never one to sit on trades just for the sake of it.