Been a bit bored this morning so I thought I would throw a team together.
TEAM NAME: Ringos Rocky Road
DEF: H. Shaw, A. Rance, G. Birchall, S. Wellingham, D. Swallow, R. Harwood (M. Scharenberg, D. Viojo-Rainbow)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, J. Ziebell, T. Liberatore, J. O'Meara, B. Crouch, J. Aish, W. Milera (H. Balic, N. Freeman, C. Mills)
RUC: S. Mumford, M. Leuenberger (D. Currie)
FWD: D. Martin, M. Robinson, J. Elliott, C. Dixon, J. Patton, C. Ah Chee (M. Close, M. Luxford)
CASH LEFT: $79,300
2nd Draft - Nov 23rd
TEAM NAME: Ringos Rocky Road
DEF: H. Shaw, A. Rance, G. Birchall, S. Wellingham, D. Swallow, R. Harwood (A. Silvagni, D. Viojo-Rainbow)
MID: S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, G. Ablett jnr, T. Liberatore, J. O'Meara, B. Crouch, J. Aish, H. Balic (D. Cavka, N. Freeman, C. Mills)
RUC: S. Martin, C. Sinclair (D. Currie)
FWD: D. Martin, M. Robinson, J. Elliott, C. Dixon, J. Patton, C. Petracca (M. Close, M. Luxford)
CASH LEFT: $16,200
3rd Draft - December 3rd
TEAM NAME: Ringos Rocky Road
DEF: H. Shaw, A. Rance, G. Birchall, S. Wellingham, D. Swallow, R. Harwood (A. Silvagni, D. Viojo-Rainbow)
MID: S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, G. Ablett jnr, T. Liberatore, J. O'Meara, B. Crouch, J. Aish, M. Hibberd (D. Cavka, N. Freeman, C. Mills)
RUC: S. Martin, C. Sinclair (D. Currie)
FWD: D. Martin, J. Billings, C. Dixon, C. Bird, J. Schache, B. Kennedy (M. Luxford, C. Petracca)
That forward line has me very nervous Ringo.
And JZ in the mids is a waste, will never become a true premium I don't think. Goes missing way too often to field good mid numbers.
Swallow as a defender? Doubt it. Don't like Wellingham either. More news on Harwood too mate if you don't mind??
Other than that I love most of your picks (high risk v massive rewards for you I think) and the one I absolutely agree with is Rance. I want him again, but can't fit him in currently
Quote from: _wato on November 21, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
More news on Harwood too mate if you don't mind??
Best 22 if fit, scores decently (80s probably), and should be extremely cheap. If he gets through the pre-season fine and is right to go round 1, I'll be locking him in for sure.
As I said first attempt an a lot of changes no doubt before season starts. Just to give me an idea where i can chop and change. Wellingham finally showed something with the Eagles last year and I expect him to kick on next
Ziebell is the one who i will be playing around with along with rucks.
Harwood had an injury ravaged season last year and has had a groin operation and is back to full fitness, Will be in Brisbanes best 22, unless his form has dropped, especially now with Golby being de-listed.
Have to wait for DPP's to be announced and remember Swallow was off H/B prior to suns injury crisis. Plenty of other options around that price as well.
The pains of naming a ream early and the injury jinx/curse continues for me with Scharenberg now out for the season with an ACL.
So here is a 2nd draft with a few changes
TEAM NAME: Ringos Rocky Road
DEF: H. Shaw, A. Rance, G. Birchall, S. Wellingham, D. Swallow, R. Harwood (A. Silvagni, D. Viojo-Rainbow)
MID: S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, G. Ablett jnr, T. Liberatore, J. O'Meara, B. Crouch, J. Aish, H. Balic (D. Cavka, N. Freeman, C. Mills)
RUC: S. Martin, C. Sinclair (D. Currie)
FWD: D. Martin, M. Robinson, J. Elliott, C. Dixon, J. Patton, C. Petracca (M. Close, M. Luxford)
CASH LEFT: $16,200
Can you please take Mills out of your team as i dont want him to get another injury
Quote from: Ringo on November 23, 2015, 04:34:15 PM
The pains of naming a ream early and the injury jinx/curse continues for me with Scharenberg now out for the season with an ACL.
Quote from: Capper on November 23, 2015, 05:01:52 PM
Can you please take Mills out of your team as i dont want him to get another injury
Straight swap him for McGinnity :-X
Really like the look of this team. How ever I'm against the Patton pick as he won't score that well even if he is 100% fit. Very good side mate looks like you will be right up there again!
Love the second draft Ringo. Stunning mids and quality backs. Does Dixon have R/F in 2016. If so can understand the Ruck selections. Hope he is no TBC!!
Wellinghaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam...!
Replace Patton with B.Kennedy up forward I think... He should be 180kish with an average of 35 this year!
It's a quality team few interesting Pods Elliot and Robinson! Could pay off!
posting team I will probably sit on til prices and DPP come out (heard that one before somewhere)
TEAM NAME: Ringos Rocky Road
DEF: H. Shaw, A. Rance, G. Birchall, S. Wellingham, D. Swallow, R. Harwood (A. Silvagni, D. Viojo-Rainbow)
MID: S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, G. Ablett jnr, T. Liberatore, J. O'Meara, B. Crouch, J. Aish, M. Hibberd (D. Cavka, N. Freeman, C. Mills)
RUC: S. Martin, C. Sinclair (D. Currie)
FWD: D. Martin, J. Billings, C. Dixon, C. Bird, J. Schache, B. Kennedy (M. Luxford, C. Petracca)
Forwards still need a little bit of work.
Also need to adjust later with current bye structure 12/9/9.
Quote from: Ringo on December 03, 2015, 07:45:37 PM
posting team I will probably sit on til prices and DPP come out (heard that one before somewhere)
TEAM NAME: Ringos Rocky Road
DEF: H. Shaw, A. Rance, G. Birchall, S. Wellingham, D. Swallow, R. Harwood (A. Silvagni, D. Viojo-Rainbow)
MID: S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, G. Ablett jnr, T. Liberatore, J. O'Meara, B. Crouch, J. Aish, M. Hibberd (D. Cavka, N. Freeman, C. Mills)
RUC: S. Martin, C. Sinclair (D. Currie)
FWD: D. Martin, J. Billings, C. Dixon, C. Bird, J. Schache, B. Kennedy (M. Luxford, C. Petracca)
Forwards still need a little bit of work.
Also need to adjust later with current bye structure 12/9/9.
I'm seeing Harwood in your side but I also read on heraldsun by one of their writers that Cutler is ahead of him in their opinion... What are your thoughts on that and the SC relevance of the both of them as a lions supporter?
As for your team agree definitely look to sit on that until dpp's are announced it looks very good.
As a pie supporter I think Aish will play a big role this year but I'm not sure whether that will convert into SuperCoach points with the team he has around him... Pendlebury, Swan, Sidey, Adams, Treloar, Crisp, Greenwood, Langdon, Elliot, Williams guys who will probably average the 85-90+ not sure if there's room for one more?
Just some good for though
Aish at his price was hard to ignore for what he is capable of. Think his demotion due to form may have been the kick in the backside he needed to show that natural talent will not keep you there. Think he is a much better player than Crisp and Langdon so will be in the mix.
Regarding Harwood preseason form in my opinion will decide which of Harwood or Cutler gets that HB role. Harwood had a break out season in 2014 where he averaged 87 SC points (which I will take from a D4-D6 anytime), Struggled with injury and loss of form in 2015. Cutler is going into his 3rd season and may break out so tough one there.
Quote from: Ringo on December 04, 2015, 05:03:11 PM
Aish at his price was hard to ignore for what he is capable of. Think his demotion due to form may have been the kick in the backside he needed to show that natural talent will not keep you there. Think he is a much better player than Crisp and Langdon so will be in the mix.
Regarding Harwood preseason form in my opinion will decide which of Harwood or Cutler gets that HB role. Harwood had a break out season in 2014 where he averaged 87 SC points (which I will take from a D4-D6 anytime), Struggled with injury and loss of form in 2015. Cutler is going into his 3rd season and may break out so tough one there.
Fair enough, thanks ringo!
As for Aish, sit on him for sure... All about where he is in buckley's pecking order. I think he really rates him if he wanted him at the club for 2 years running. Hard to gage where exactly he rates him amongst the bunch. If he was a forward I'd feel more inclined but with what's on offer through the midfield this year, I think it'd be best to look elsewhere. But he's certainly a good POD if you like him.
Aish could become David Meyers to assist with byes - Will then allow Dixon to become Stringer.
Quote from: Ringo on December 06, 2015, 10:16:15 PM
Aish could become David Meyers to assist with byes - Will then allow Dixon to become Stringer.
Agree this is a Better option. too many questions over aish unless you want him as a pod.
Here is first draft after releases of prices and DPP
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Will no doubt be many more. Bye Structure 10/9/11
Where's aish? I thought youd be all over him!
Quite a few mid pricers in their Ringo. Bird, Wells, Hartung (christ he killed me last year) Harwood, Pearce in the backs.
You not considering a GNR approach or going to do a seperate one for them.
@Fasttrack - Pearce should be Aish cliked wrong button. Pearce next on list after Aish
@crowls - This year with the number of midpricers not really looking at Guns and Rookies. Hartung averaged 82 unsubbed last year and with the abolishment of subs has so much upside. Wells at the price and with DPP too hard to ignore virtual rookie price. Bird at a new club should increase output. Harwood is just a personal choice as I really like him but if not selected will become someone else.
Leuey seems a bit risky at R2 mate, are you expecting him to stay there for the season?
@Southstorm can interchange Luey and Sinclair and hope both make money to upgrade. Thats the initial plan which no doubt may change.
Quote from: Ringo on December 17, 2015, 11:43:03 AM
@Southstorm can interchange Luey and Sinclair and hope both make money to upgrade. Thats the initial plan which no doubt may change.
I have the same setup at the moment Ringo, with the plan of turning one of them (probably Sinclair) into Goldy when his price hopefully drops. Leuey might be an R3/F7 keeper.
Just starting to doubt Sinclair's scoring capacity. Tippett is another option I will look at.
Quote from: BomberSam on December 17, 2015, 12:06:54 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 17, 2015, 11:43:03 AM
@Southstorm can interchange Luey and Sinclair and hope both make money to upgrade. Thats the initial plan which no doubt may change.
I have the same setup at the moment Ringo, with the plan of turning one of them (probably Sinclair) into Goldy when his price hopefully drops. Leuey might be an R3/F7 keeper.
Just starting to doubt Sinclair's scoring capacity. Tippett is another option I will look at.
Sinclkair may become Tippett but at the moment can not afford Tippett,
After doing a fair bit of research settled on this team for a while. (Heard that somewhere before)
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag128/therings1/Supercoach%202016/2016%20SC%20Draft%202_zpsgnazqg0j.png)
Reasonably happy with it.
Defence: Harwood and Aish both dependent on being named round 1. 3 Prems and rookies to be finalised when teams named. There are quite a few options to look at if need be.
Mids: Prems and Injured Players returning from injury. Hartung may be a risk but unsubbed averaged 82 last year and with rule abolished has a high ceiling. Trengove going great guns in preseason from reports. Have got 2 rookies Hibberd and Kerridge with DPPS to allow flexibility,
Rucks: A set and forget strategy. King used as DPP but also with friendly draw for possible loopholing,
Fwds: 3 prems, Berger to provide a R/F DPP (went the cheaper option as if sole ruck Berger has huge upside). Wells and Kennedy at those prices hard to ignore.
Bye friendly at 9/10/11.
Obviously rookies will depend on being named Rd 1 and will be watching NAB Cup. Have 64k in cash to manouvre as needed
I like Aish in the back and Berger in the Fwds as your 3rd ruck option (done the same myself)
Trengrove is a must imo (if he is right to go)
the same goes with Petracca in the fwds and Libba in the mids
If you don't think your R3 is going to play consider placing a rookie and save yourself $15K
Although I'm not sure if I am going to do it King (Melbourne) is playing a lot of sunday games this year so he is better too loop hole. I'm not sure on Hartung but I'm sure you have your reasons. Great looking team mate! well done :)
Yep King has 11 Sunday Games and also a couple of Twilight Saturday games which is the reason I have gone with him over Chol as Richmond have a number of Friday night games.
Quote from: Ringo on December 18, 2015, 10:07:56 AM
Yep King has 11 Sunday Games and also a couple of Twilight Saturday games which is the reason I have gone with him over Chol as Richmond have a number of Friday night games.
I'm going with the Gold Coast ruckman as they have a lot of later games as well. Only problem is you cant loophole Gaz.
Quote from: Money Shot on December 18, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: Ringo on December 18, 2015, 10:07:56 AM
Yep King has 11 Sunday Games and also a couple of Twilight Saturday games which is the reason I have gone with him over Chol as Richmond have a number of Friday night games.
I'm going with the Gold Coast ruckman as they have a lot of later games as well. Only problem is you cant loophole Gaz.
Yep my reason for going with King over Loersch, Gazz will be C because of the number of late Games Suns play and King can be set up pemanently as loophole if required. Think the extra $15k is justified for that reason.
Agree Gaz is one that we are going to be wanting to loophole regularly through the year, to take that option away from yourself from the get go will hurt your scoring power over the season. The extra 15k spent so you can do this will be worth it otherwise at some point you're going to be kicking yourself you didn't.
Harwood and Hartung are very interesting picks. Would be curious to hear your reasoning behind these selections
Harwood in my opinion is in Brisbanes best 22. He got a kick in the pants when dropped to NEAFL in 2014 and when he fought his way back to Seniors averaged 90.4 in the final 11 games. had an injury interrupted season in 2015. Have a back up plan if not named but at that price hard to ignore as possible keeper or stepping stone once we know who are the prems standing out. Defence is the hardest line.
Hartung - was sub 11 times last year and unsubbed averages 90 and again at the price has a huge upside as a stepping stone or maybe a keeper at M8. Sub rule going will assist Hartung and I believe will be in Hawks best 22.
Final play for this year:
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I have 190k to play around with rookies or players not named round 1. eg Have sufficient to turn Harwood or Aish to Yeo.
Bye Structure is 10/9/11. Although with byes so late this year this is not as significant as in past.
Dropped Dahlhaus as I am concerned how he will fare with Libbas return. Not overly confident on Zorko either but getting my structure right at the moment.
Keeping Hartung as my POD as he averaged 90 unsubbed last year and if he averages that with sub rule gone will be a handy upgrade or maybe even a M8 keeper if he lifts a little more.
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag128/therings1/Supercoach%202016/2016%20SC%20Draft%204_zpspbdl1nhz.png)
Was a bit bored so did some more work on my team. Really wanted to see what it would like like going cheap in back line and do not mind it. Have plans in case Aish or Harwood do not make best 22.
Main change in mids is now Hartung to Mundy,
Also wanted to structure a team with byes in mind with an even spread of keepers. With a couple of assumptions that Libba and Crouch return to prem status and Berger stays fit and is scoring 90+ to remain at F6 Prem Structure now is 6/5/4 with an overall bye structure 10/10/10. Will be aiming for at least a 6/6/6 Prem structure by round 13 but working out an initial structure to start with to achieve this.
Have $85k to fix up rookies etc.
This will be the sitting team now till NAB cup.
I'll start off by addressing your bye comment Ringo. Do you really think it's necessary to plan for byes this early? With all the trades we make during the season, our teams will be drastically different, don't think you can really plan for them too much prior to round 1. Just my thoughts though.
I actually don't mind that defence, could pump out some decent scores, might mean you miss out on one or two 'must-have' defenders at the end of the year though.
Mundy is an interesting pick. I love him as a player (one of my fav non-lions), but think there's a lot of better options.
Strong rucks, but no Goldy...could hurt. Could also pay off big time though!
Said this a few times, not a fan of Zerrett. But each to their own.
Thanks GL - With regards to byes just sorting out structure to achieve goals. Have got a spreadsheet that assists with this now and hence the plan developing.
Like Mundy and he is very consistent and will end up m7/8, Very similar to Priddis but a lesser price. Looked at Watson and Mitchell for that role but just think Mundy is the better option of the 3.
Rucks just think Goldy is too expensive so going with next best option hoping it pays off.
Not 100% on Merrett but will be watching NAB cup to see how Franklin, LeCras and Jake Stringer go as they could slot in to replace him.
Only Concern is Sam Jacobs. He will be a good scorer but think others are better. My reasoning too this is that he is a flat track bully and Adelaide have a much harder draw this year. That's just my opinion.
Apart from that I am a huge fan of that team.
The only downside I see in Sauce and Martin is if Goldstein turns out to be THAT much better then everyone else again this year you will either get caught behind on points or have to burn a trade even though you have the 2nd and 3rd best rucks in the comp. If you're worried about his starting price it might be worth moving Leuenberger to ruck 2 and then using the cash for one of Sauce or Martin to upgrade Merrett and also start another premium forward.
Draft 5 for January
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Backs are probably a little light on but I think there is value there. KK has been tearing up training at the Suns and looks set for a big season. Have $60k cash to adjust Aish or Harwood if necessary.
Mids: Currently have Beams at M3 but this may change based on preseason form.
Sticking with Sauce and Martin as set and forget rucks with Berger providing coverage in forwards.
Fwds: Really agoninsing over F2 and F3 at the moment as no standout. Buddy may come in if he has a reasonable NAB cup. Have concerns on Dahlhaus, Zorko and to a lesser extent Lids.
Rookies are place holders pending NAB Cup and Rd 1 teams.
Imo, you will need more than $60k for the rookies, as you have rock bottom prices on most lines and without the vest, coaches this season may not blood as many rookies
Would much rather Naitanui over Jacobs.
Really like Beams at M3, guy is a jet. Wingard?? What are your thoughts?
Team looks good mate, however I do agree that you will need to find more than $60k to upgrade rookies mate, hardly see any of those actually playing. Think you will need over $200k to replace them.
This is my favourite team I've seen, Apart from mine ???
Good mix of must haves and pods.
Do you have a source of someone saying that KK is killing it?
I think you have enough money for rookies as heaps always pop up come round 1!
Quote from: _wato on January 05, 2016, 06:47:50 PM
Would much rather Naitanui over Jacobs.
Really like Beams at M3, guy is a jet. Wingard?? What are your thoughts?
Team looks good mate, however I do agree that you will need to find more than $60k to upgrade rookies mate, hardly see any of those actually playing. Think you will need over $200k to replace them.
Just a hunch that Wingard may finally have a consistent season and finish in the Top 6 mids.
have a couple of downgrades that I can do if I have to find extra to pursue playing rookies. However King will stay for loophole,
Quote from: Money Shot on January 05, 2016, 06:50:35 PM
This is my favourite team I've seen, Apart from mine ???
Good mix of must haves and pods.
Do you have a source of someone saying that KK is killing it?
I think you have enough money for rookies as heaps always pop up come round 1!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-04/sexton-shines-as-suns-continue-strong-preseason (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-04/sexton-shines-as-suns-continue-strong-preseason)
"Lovell singled out Sexton and defender Kade Kolodjashnij for their superb pre-seasons to date as the Suns kicked off their 2016 at Metricon Stadium."
Taking on board some comments but also after doing some research. Happy to sit on this team with $120k available to adjust. Rookies are place holders.
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Some comments:
Going really cheap in defence. May look at acquiring Bartel or McVeigh though if funds allow after settling. Duryea is a speculative pick really come of age in the finals series and also averaging 88 unsubbed over the last 8 games for last year. Think he will continue improvement.
Mids: Beams could become Sloane, Gray, Heppel or Selwood. Still undecided on M3. Ablett, Rocky, Libba and Crouch musts at their price.
Rucks: Set and forget - If I need some extra cash Jacobs may become Nat.
Forwards: Lids is a watch and see in NAB cup but couple of options available if he falls. Franklin is on the watch list and if he shows any form at all and coping with his issues he will come in some where. Bird is another speculative pick based on the fact that coach has said he will be running through midfield. Will be watching how he is used in NAB cup. (Coaches never lie do they ;) )
Now over to you to pick it to pieces.
Only concern that you haven't addressed is that Jacobs is a flat track bully and he has a hard line up this year so may not be the best pick which is why I would go to Goldy if you could afford it if not Nic Nat.
Bird I'm not sure on but you have addressed that and he could be a great pick up.
Super midfield. If your cheap picks work out you'll be laughing. 120k gives you some wriggle room.
Jacobs no...
Said this numerous of times that he will loose 5-10% of hits hitouts to advantage with danger leaving. No one in the crows lineup can read and the collect jacob's hitouts like danger did. Can't see him hitting 100 personally.
I like the duryea pick, can see him averaging 90 and i think he had a very good unsubbed average.
Good to see a lot of pod's here ringo, its a hard year to be brave enough to do it...
Put this team together post Bomber Suspensions:
Whilst not bye friendly plenty of cash cows to get out before then. Of my perceived 13 keepers at the moment bye structure is 5/3/5 so not bad.
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Have 44k remaining with this team.
Defence line still speculative but there are no real standouts at this stage and all these picks have the ability to increase, Only 3 defenders went 100+ last year hence why I am looking at a cheaper defence.
Mumford taking a risk here but looking at his history if he starts and with GWS draw will be worth it as it may enable a straight swap for Goldy when he gets his regulation injury. Still maintaining the DPP with Berger as well.
Fwds: Reckon Martin, Dahl and Wingard will remain in top 10. Berger if he can average 90 will sit at F6 but if not will be one of the last trades.
If rookies do not work out have the option of Downgrading in mids.
Excellent starting lineup Ringo. Good luck as 3/4 same as mine
Quote from: Ringo on January 16, 2016, 04:09:45 PM
Put this team together post Bomber Suspensions:
Whilst not bye friendly plenty of cash cows to get out before then. Of my perceived 13 keepers at the moment bye structure is 5/3/5 so not bad.
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag128/therings1/Supercoach%202016/2016%20SC%20Draft%207_zpstki6q4ul.png)
Have 44k remaining with this team.
Defence line still speculative but there are no real standouts at this stage and all these picks have the ability to increase, Only 3 defenders went 100+ last year hence why I am looking at a cheaper defence.
Mumford taking a risk here but looking at his history if he starts and with GWS draw will be worth it as it may enable a straight swap for Goldy when he gets his regulation injury. Still maintaining the DPP with Berger as well.
Fwds: Reckon Martin, Dahl and Wingard will remain in top 10. Berger if he can average 90 will sit at F6 but if not will be one of the last trades.
If rookies do not work out have the option of Downgrading in mids.
DEF: I like the KK and Smith picks but I'm not a big fan of the Duryea, Harwood and Aish picks. I don't think Duryea will average enough to be a keeper. Harwood is just too speculative, misses too many games and won't be a keeper so at 283k I don't like him as a pick. Aish needs to show that he is best 22 before I would even think about picking him, again he won't average enough to be a keeper and I don't think he'll average enough to make a decent stepping stone either.
MID: I like all the picks here except for Beams. He always misses games through injury so I would look elsewhere.
RUC: Interesting ruck setup here. I understand the notion of not starting with Goldy but planning on bringing him in but I dont think Mumford at 570k is the player to do that with. Much prefer Lobbe at 389k. Stef Martin is a good pick and can see him being a top 4 ruck this year.
FWD: Dusty, Dahl and Wingard are all good picks. I dont like Leuey or Wells though because they are just too injury prone. We want Leuey to provide coverage but he's always injured so defeats the point. I don't think either will average enough to be keepers too. I can see both averaging 75 - 80, that's when they are actually on the park.
Just another play with a slightly different structure compared to Team of 16-1. Trying to decide which is better and I think I like this one slightly better.
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag128/therings1/Supercoach%202016/2016%20SC%20Draft%208_zpstxffvhc0.png)
Comments:
Def: Did some research and Enright is Mr Consistency so went for him over Bartel. KK and Smith imo have huge upsides and rest are rookies which will be finalised for Round 1.
Mids: Pretty Standard. Think JPK will rise this year. Have the option of downgrading Beams to Gray/Sloane if need be but comfortable with Beams at the moment. Libba and Crouch are virtual musts at the price. Rookies place holders although Kerridge and Hibberd are there for DPP. Will replace with other DPP Rookies if playing ones identified. DPP rookies 2 purposes in that you may be able to save trades by utilising to cover injuries. More importantly when fattened you have the option of trading up in two lines.
Rucks: Sticking with Martin and Mummy combo. Hoping with GWS softish draw and Norths difficult that when Mummy has the inevitable injury close to a straight swap.
Fwds: Lids on watch but have other options if need be, Dahl and Dusty pick themselves. Sinclair is a POD as he will more than likely play all games for swans and give ruck coverage for a one to 2 week injury. Also will score well enough to stay at F6. Wells risky but if he puts together strong early games nice stepping stone.
Team has 15 keepers (includes Sinclair, Libba and Crouch) with the byes 6/4/5 so comfortable with that. Couple of PODs as well.
Have $40k cash as well for adjustments along with prem downgrade options as above.
Teams are starting to look scary already and its still January. Nice work there Ringo.
Quote from: Ringo on January 28, 2016, 12:08:12 PM
Just another play with a slightly different structure compared to Team of 16-1. Trying to decide which is better and I think I like this one slightly better.
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag128/therings1/Supercoach%202016/2016%20SC%20Draft%208_zpstxffvhc0.png)
Comments:
Def: Did some research and Enright is Mr Consistency so went for him over Bartel. KK and Smith imo have huge upsides and rest are rookies which will be finalised for Round 1.
Mids: Pretty Standard. Think JPK will rise this year. Have the option of downgrading Beams to Gray/Sloane if need be but comfortable with Beams at the moment. Libba and Crouch are virtual musts at the price. Rookies place holders although Kerridge and Hibberd are there for DPP. Will replace with other DPP Rookies if playing ones identified. DPP rookies 2 purposes in that you may be able to save trades by utilising to cover injuries. More importantly when fattened you have the option of trading up in two lines.
Rucks: Sticking with Martin and Mummy combo. Hoping with GWS softish draw and Norths difficult that when Mummy has the inevitable injury close to a straight swap.
Fwds: Lids on watch but have other options if need be, Dahl and Dusty pick themselves. Sinclair is a POD as he will more than likely play all games for swans and give ruck coverage for a one to 2 week injury. Also will score well enough to stay at F6. Wells risky but if he puts together strong early games nice stepping stone.
Team has 15 keepers (includes Sinclair, Libba and Crouch) with the byes 6/4/5 so comfortable withg that.
I like the majority of this team.
DEF: Bartel over Enright every day of the week. I think Bartel will easily average more and play more games than Enright plus he's 46k cheaper. I like the KK and Smith picks.
MID: I'm not a fan of the Beams pick. Yes he averages well when he plays but he consistently misses games every year. I prefer Pendles for only 15k more. Rest of the picks are great.
RUC: Stef Martin is a solid pick and Mummy will score well when he plays but how many games will you get out of him before an inevitable injury strikes? Playing with fire there I reckon.
FWD: Lids a bit pricy for mine and a better upgrade target. Dusty and Dahl both good picks. I don't think Sinclair will average enough to be a keeper which is what you would want from him. He does provide ruck coverage though which is a nice luxury to have. Wells is too risky for mine so I'm steering clear.
Made a few changes with SC opening:
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Enright to Bartel
Beams to Pendles
JPK to Gray
Lids to Wingard
Sinclair to Tippett
Still not sure on Wells may become Lyons but looking at NAB Form.
Sticking to my strategy on Mumford. Goldstein has a 3 rd B/E of 133 and Mumford 109. So Mumford should maintain with the relative easy draw and Goldy drop.
Reasonably happy with this structure with $74k cash left for adjustments, Bye structure 10/14/6 with keepers 6/5/4 so not a real problem.
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2016, 01:04:42 PM
Made a few changes with SC opening:
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Enright to Bartel
Beams to Pendles
JPK to Gray
Lids to Wingard
Sinclair to Tippett
Still not sure on Wells may become Lyons but looking at NAB Form.
Sticking to my strategy on Mumford. Goldstein has a 3 rd B/E of 133 and Mumford 109. So Mumford should maintain with the relative easy draw and Goldy drop.
Reasonably happy with this structure with $74k cash left for adjustments, Bye structure 10/14/6 with keepers 6/5/4 so not a real problem.
awesome team Ringo!
however you could consider these changes
--you could put cal sinclair back in your team, i really like the guy
--i personally dont think wells would be worth picking up, what do you think of reece conca?? priced at 284k, has the ability to average 80 sc points and still only 23 yrs old. is he still injured??
--also what was your reasoning behind not picking omera?
O'Meara is in extreme doubt for Rd1 and will more than likely not play in NAB cup so wary of players that do not play NAB cup. Reason I dropped Beams as he is unlikely to play NAB Cup.
Wells is a stepping stone and only need 5/6 games of decent scores to step up.
regarding Conca do not know where he is at the moment injury wise, and wondering whether he is in Tigers best 22.
Reason for going Tippett over Sinclair is I just Tippett will average more and be a better Keeper. Hope not left with egg on my face over that statement,
Great looking team Ringo. Agree with Enright to Bartel move. Personally would have luey over sinclair or tippett as proven scorer and will be sole ruckman. Expect min 95 average. Pendles over Beams also makes sense.
Stick with Wells. I carried the bugger on my bloody back for 1/2 of 2015. If he stays on the ground then you will get points and cash generation.
All the best for 2016.
good team ringo. gray will be a POD. but feel jpk will average more
Quote from: crowls on January 29, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
Great looking team Ringo. Agree with Enright to Bartel move. Personally would have luey over sinclair or tippett as proven scorer and will be sole ruckman. Expect min 95 average. Pendles over Beams also makes sense.
Stick with Wells. I carried the bugger on my bloody back for 1/2 of 2015. If he stays on the ground then you will get points and cash generation.
All the best for 2016.
Your optimism about Leuenberger gives the term 'fantasy football' a whole new meaning! ; )
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2016, 01:04:42 PM
Made a few changes with SC opening:
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Enright to Bartel
Beams to Pendles
JPK to Gray
Lids to Wingard
Sinclair to Tippett
Still not sure on Wells may become Lyons but looking at NAB Form.
Sticking to my strategy on Mumford. Goldstein has a 3 rd B/E of 133 and Mumford 109. So Mumford should maintain with the relative easy draw and Goldy drop.
Reasonably happy with this structure with $74k cash left for adjustments, Bye structure 10/14/6 with keepers 6/5/4 so not a real problem.
Hi Ringo, I'd strongly advise against the Mumford pick, as although he has a high score ceiling he has a history of missing multiple games per season;
2010 - 19 games
2011 - 17 games
2012 - 14 games
2013 - 19 games
2014 - 17 games
2015 - 11 games
I understand that you have set your team to include a ruck/fwd for coverage, but I'm of the opinion that you'd just be better of picking a durable, premium ruck at R2 (or as I'm doing this year, pick a durable mid-price RUCK - Lobbe with a view to trading later)
Scenario. Important game in your league, Mumford out, you then switch Tippet/Sinclair to Ruck, leaving you a premium short up FWD, forcing you to either trade for a fwd, or play a benchwarmer.
That's my 2 cents worth.
Thanks Dcak Know I am taking a risk but with Kangas early hard draw and GWS with a relatively easy one (ruck wise) am hoping that Mummy and Goldy can become a straight swap. Could not justify the high price for Goldy up front.
Risk for me is that injury happens in first couple of games of the season and he has had only one season where LTI intervened early.
Quote from: Ringo on February 06, 2016, 06:12:09 PM
Thanks Dcak Know I am taking a risk but with Kangas early hard draw and GWS with a relatively easy one (ruck wise) am hoping that Mummy and Goldy can become a straight swap. Could not justify the high price for Goldy up front.
Risk for me is that injury happens in first couple of games of the season and he has had only one season where LTI intervened early.
As long as you have a ruck DPP forward I really like the Mumford pick TBH.
I don't have confidence in his body to pick him however from a draw perspective ruck wise Mumford has the easiest draw in the first half of the season from the top premos and if fit IMO will average above Goldy in the first half of the season.
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 06, 2016, 06:26:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on February 06, 2016, 06:12:09 PM
Thanks Dcak Know I am taking a risk but with Kangas early hard draw and GWS with a relatively easy one (ruck wise) am hoping that Mummy and Goldy can become a straight swap. Could not justify the high price for Goldy up front.
Risk for me is that injury happens in first couple of games of the season and he has had only one season where LTI intervened early.
As long as you have a ruck DPP forward I really like the Mumford pick TBH.
I don't have confidence in his body to pick him however from a draw perspective ruck wise Mumford has the easiest draw in the first half of the season from the top premos and if fit IMO will average above Goldy in the first half of the season.
Well then why don't you pick him? If you see him being the R1 by mid year then go for it. What if this is the year when he plays every game? Worst case scenario he gets injured, you bring in the highest scoring ruck for the year. It's only one trade out of an available 30. I say start with him, you will reap the rewards and then if he does get injured you end up with a ruck who you know will finish top 3!
Quote from: Hawker_08 on February 06, 2016, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 06, 2016, 06:26:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on February 06, 2016, 06:12:09 PM
Thanks Dcak Know I am taking a risk but with Kangas early hard draw and GWS with a relatively easy one (ruck wise) am hoping that Mummy and Goldy can become a straight swap. Could not justify the high price for Goldy up front.
Risk for me is that injury happens in first couple of games of the season and he has had only one season where LTI intervened early.
As long as you have a ruck DPP forward I really like the Mumford pick TBH.
I don't have confidence in his body to pick him however from a draw perspective ruck wise Mumford has the easiest draw in the first half of the season from the top premos and if fit IMO will average above Goldy in the first half of the season.
Well then why don't you pick him? If you see him being the R1 by mid year then go for it. What if this is the year when he plays every game? Worst case scenario he gets injured, you bring in the highest scoring ruck for the year. It's only one trade out of an available 30. I say start with him, you will reap the rewards and then if he does get injured you end up with a ruck who you know will finish top 3!
As I stated above I have no confidence in him having an uninterrupted season. I would have to re-structure my side to select Mumford and Goldy.
Goldy will be top 2 or 3 at worst come seasons end and happy to have Lobbe at R2.
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 06, 2016, 08:49:13 PM
Quote from: Hawker_08 on February 06, 2016, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 06, 2016, 06:26:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on February 06, 2016, 06:12:09 PM
Thanks Dcak Know I am taking a risk but with Kangas early hard draw and GWS with a relatively easy one (ruck wise) am hoping that Mummy and Goldy can become a straight swap. Could not justify the high price for Goldy up front.
Risk for me is that injury happens in first couple of games of the season and he has had only one season where LTI intervened early.
As long as you have a ruck DPP forward I really like the Mumford pick TBH.
I don't have confidence in his body to pick him however from a draw perspective ruck wise Mumford has the easiest draw in the first half of the season from the top premos and if fit IMO will average above Goldy in the first half of the season.
Well then why don't you pick him? If you see him being the R1 by mid year then go for it. What if this is the year when he plays every game? Worst case scenario he gets injured, you bring in the highest scoring ruck for the year. It's only one trade out of an available 30. I say start with him, you will reap the rewards and then if he does get injured you end up with a ruck who you know will finish top 3!
As I stated above I have no confidence in him having an uninterrupted season. I would have to re-structure my side to select Mumford and Goldy.
Goldy will be top 2 or 3 at worst come seasons end and happy to have Lobbe at R2.
Fair Enough. All the best for next year!
Ringo what are your thoughts on Harwood? I think he could go mid 80s and therefore be a good pick up and was expecting too see him in your side. Any reason why he isn't?
Harwood, Lester, Cutler and Mayes are vying for 2 positions at HB and at the moment not sure whether Harwood will make it. If he does will be in.
Hey Ringo, you seem to be the resident subject matter expert when it comes to the Bears, do you think Keays, Mathieson or Hipwood will get a opportunities in the seniors this season, and I mean not just 1 or 2 games, but enough to be SC relevant? Thanks, Dave
Quote from: DCAK on February 08, 2016, 07:13:18 PM
Hey Ringo, you seem to be the resident subject matter expert when it comes to the Bears, do you think Keays, Mathieson or Hipwood will get a opportunities in the seniors this season, and I mean not just 1 or 2 games, but enough to be SC relevant? Thanks, Dave
Barring injuries, Matho probably most likely, but it's a hard midfield to break into for him and Keays. Hipwood been training with the fwd group apparently, but I don't see him getting picked before guys like Freeman, Schache, Walker, Close.
Quote from: GoLions on February 08, 2016, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: DCAK on February 08, 2016, 07:13:18 PM
Hey Ringo, you seem to be the resident subject matter expert when it comes to the Bears, do you think Keays, Mathieson or Hipwood will get a opportunities in the seniors this season, and I mean not just 1 or 2 games, but enough to be SC relevant? Thanks, Dave
Barring injuries, Matho probably most likely, but it's a hard midfield to break into for him and Keays. Hipwood been training with the fwd group apparently, but I don't see him getting picked before guys like Freeman, Schache, Walker, Close.
Thanks GL
I think all three may get opportunities. Number of games would depend on players losing form or extent of injuries. Can not see any of them getting up for Round 1 unless we have a disastrous NAB injury curse. You also have to remember that previous years draftees McGrath, Clayton and Dawson also have some claims. I will not be starting any. The only new draftee who I may start from Lions is Schache if he gets named and does well in NAB cup.
Quote from: Ringo on February 08, 2016, 07:20:37 PM
I think all three may get opportunities. Number of games would depend on players losing form or extent of injuries. Can not see any of them getting up for Round 1 unless we have a disastrous NAB injury curse. You also have to remember that previous years draftees McGrath, Clayton and Dawson also have some claims. I will not be starting any. The only new draftee who I may start from Lions is Schache if he gets named and does well in NAB cup.
Good man, thanks Ringo.
Quote from: Ringo on February 08, 2016, 07:20:37 PM
I think all three may get opportunities. Number of games would depend on players losing form or extent of injuries. Can not see any of them getting up for Round 1 unless we have a disastrous NAB injury curse. You also have to remember that previous years draftees McGrath, Clayton and Dawson also have some claims. I will not be starting any. The only new draftee who I may start from Lions is Schache if he gets named and does well in NAB cup.
As an afterthought I do have to ask this. What about Jansen? Surely he would not have left Geelong to walk into a similarly poor situation. The man is an in-and-under bull.....
Jansen would be probably slightly in front of both Keays and Matho based on our intraclub trials. Will be interested if it translates through the NAB cup.
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Sitting Team till after NAB cup. $38k cash
Rookies to be finalised.
If cash needed to adjust rookies options to be looked at:
Goldstein to Mumford
Crouch to a rookie
12 Definite Keepers, Sinclair more than likely will be at F6/F7 and Libba/Crouch possibilities as well.
Bye Structure 8/13/9 Keepers if all 15 above 4/6/5 Very manageable.
Like the general structure. Weak backs but lots of teams doing that good idea.
Awesome rucks.
I don't like the forwards however. I'd be iffy about Merret,Wells and Kennedy. u could spend the money on Guns n rookies instead. Upgrade Merret downgrade the other 2 to rookies. spend extra cash in mids and backs. If u think Wells will stay fit for long enough and score well enough even if tagged keep him but I really dunno about him.
Quote from: Ringo on February 12, 2016, 04:26:33 PM
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Sitting Team till after NAB cup. $38k cash
Rookies to be finalised.
If cash needed to adjust rookies options to be looked at:
Goldstein to Mumford
Crouch to a rookie
12 Definite Keepers, Sinclair more than likely will be at F6/F7 and Libba/Crouch possibilities as well.
Bye Structure 8/13/9 Keepers if all 15 above 4/6/5 Very manageable.
Sinclair is a bit expensive for mine but you obviously see some potential in him.
I don't see anything in eric mackenzie...what are people expecting him to average and why? Spend the extra 40k and go harwood if you need somebody in that price range
Quote from: piesfan1989 on February 13, 2016, 02:11:09 PM
Quote from: Ringo on February 12, 2016, 04:26:33 PM
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Sitting Team till after NAB cup. $38k cash
Rookies to be finalised.
If cash needed to adjust rookies options to be looked at:
Goldstein to Mumford
Crouch to a rookie
12 Definite Keepers, Sinclair more than likely will be at F6/F7 and Libba/Crouch possibilities as well.
Bye Structure 8/13/9 Keepers if all 15 above 4/6/5 Very manageable.
Sinclair is a bit expensive for mine but you obviously see some potential in him.
I don't see anything in eric mackenzie...what are people expecting him to average and why? Spend the extra 40k and go harwood if you need somebody in that price range
Up until yesterday was wary of Harwood as he appeared to be fighting for a spot. If he maintains the form he showed yesterday in the NAB cup will be in my side. Toying with these changes but waiting concluion of NBA cup.
To free up cash Goldy to Lobbe
Crouch to JPK
Sinclair to Tippett
Merrett to Wingard
McKenzie to Harwood.
These changes are predicted to get me a higher score. Only concern is how strong will Lobbe be.
Getting rid of Todd isn't recommended.
Knew that would bring some comment but can nearly do all the above with Martin to Lobbe. The choice then is Crouch to JPK or Merrett to Wingard so a few options up my sleeve.
Not sure about Tippett
Only went big in the second half of last year because Buddy and Pyke dropped off.
Quote from: Gigantor on February 13, 2016, 02:27:35 PM
Not sure about Tippett
Only went big in the second half of last year because Buddy and Pyke dropped off.
Only there for Ruck DPP selection but if Grimley is named early then he will come in and Tippett could become another $480 - $500k forward. Maybe Robbo may make his way in yet ;) ;)
Thought only women changed their minds but this is the NAB sitting team.
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Have gone without Ruck cover but currently with Currie and R3 but with a number of rookie rucks maybe surfacing at NAB cup will use a playing ruck rookie at R3.
Like the look of having 5 prem mids + Libba,
Rookies are place holders and will sort out for Rd 1. Plenty of options available to play around with,
Don't see Dea going over 50ppg. Only a rookie, but he's probably important to your team structure as it stands.
The 5 prem mids + 3 on-field def rookie structure doesn't entice me that much...it looks great seeing a stacked midfield but when you do the numbers it doesn't feel right.
What you're basically comparing against is JPK + Dea > Crouch + Yeo/Smith.
JPK + Dea = 110 + 65 (to be generous) = 175
Crouch + Yeo/Smith = 95 + 90 = 185
From a points perspective it doesn't make sense considering the amount of risk you're taking by leaving your backline exposed. Dea will make cash but how much? $150k peak rise after 8-9 weeks? Crouch will make around 200k when his average hits high 90's. The combined ceiling of Crouch + Yeo/Smith is much higher than JPK + Dea as well.
As I said...it looks good, but you can't pass up the value that crouch holds. This game is about having a balance between value and proven scorers..
Just to let you know Dea is not a certainty 5 def rookies, 6 mid rookies and 4 fwd rookies are just place holders with adjustments to be made when Rd 1 comes. just getting the structure I want and some of the prems may also change based on what role they are performing. Dahlhaus and Simpson the real ones and Bartel is shaky given Scotts remark.
Just trying to decide between these 2 teams atm:
Team 1
Def: Simpson, Bartel, Yeo, Dea, Byrne, Brown (Ess) (Hartley, Broad)
Mid: Pendles, Ablett, Gray, JP Kennedy, Rockliff, Libba, Hopper, Gresham (Kerridge, Hibberd, Dunkley)
Ruck: Goldstein, Natanui (Currie)
Fwds: Martin, Dahlhaus, Westhoff, Wells, Kennedy, Picket, (Petracca, ADams)
Cash left $4k
Premium bye structure 4/7/3
Team 2:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Yeo, Dea, Brown (Ess) Tucker ( Broad McDonald-Tip)
Mid: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Gray, Rocky, Libba, Hopper, Gresham (Petracca, Hibberd, Dunkley)
Ruck: Goldstein, Mumford (King)
Fwds: Martin, Westhoff, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, Pickett (Grimley, Adams)
Cash Left $5k
Prem Bye Structure: 3/4/7
Rookies for both teams including Dea are place holders pending Rd 1. Both teams have a similar prem structure but different mixes of a couple of Prems.
Leaning slightly towards Team 2 but prem bye structure needs to be managed.
so its
jpk, NicNat, Dalha
V
fyfe, Mummy, Barlow
ummmmm
Team 2 for me.
Im going a pure mids midfiled and DPPs in the fwd line (kerridge, Barlow, ando, petracca)
and also Simpson V Shaw.
Why don't you go Fyfe, Barlow, Nic Nat, Simmo and use the extra 110k to bring in Lids/Montagna for Hoff?
Just got a couple of concerns on both Lids and Tags but watching closely. With Ports early draw think the Hoff can get off to a flyer for me.
Fair enough, the cash could also be used to turn Dea into Harwood or have you gone off him completely?
Keeping my eye on Harwood tomorrow. Cutler, Lester and Harwood vying for 2 positions imo.
Great team.
I have said to other teams that I'd go with one of Shaw and Goldy they are just too pricey together. I'd run with S/Martin/NicNat and MUMFORD and keep Heater. OR get Simmo and keep Goldy. Spend a little more on forwards maybe? EMac is good at D4 I reckon.....
Please look at my team? :)
Lions question: Would you start Harwood or Rich if money wanted an issue?
Still concerned about Rich's ability to handle a tag. If I was confident he could overcome would be a no brainer. He has been training with the mid field group and I probably expect an average 80/90 from him so depends on whether you want that in defence with his DPP.
I am seriously looking at Harwood as well but until he is named it is just that. Lester, Cutler and Harwood vying for 2 positions I have Harwood in front but am not a selector.
So hope that answers yor question and my choice would be Harwood if named out of the 2.
Quote from: ubeaut on February 21, 2016, 10:09:20 AM
Great team.
I have said to other teams that I'd go with one of Shaw and Goldy they are just too pricey together. I'd run with S/Martin/NicNat and MUMFORD and keep Heater. OR get Simmo and keep Goldy. Spend a little more on forwards maybe? EMac is good at D4 I reckon.....
Please look at my team? :)
Thanks UB - With team 2 I have gone expensive so have flexibility to bring in lower priced prems if need be. Eg Shaw to Simmo or Birchall or Goldy to Martin etc. Will more than likely end up with Harwood/Aish/Emac at D4 depending on NAB performances.
Quote from: Ringo on February 21, 2016, 12:37:47 PM
Still concerned about Rich's ability to handle a tag. If I was confident he could overcome would be a no brainer. He has been training with the mid field group and I probably expect an average 80/90 from him so depends on whether you want that in defence with his DPP.
I am seriously looking at Harwood as well but until he is named it is just that. Lester, Cutler and Harwood vying for 2 positions I have Harwood in front but am not a selector.
So hope that answers yor question and my choice would be Harwood if named out of the 2.
cheers
LOL Ringo my team is the same. No Joke.
Had a further play based on a couple of feedbacks and looking at it agree that $1.9m is a bit much to spend on Shaw, Fyfe and Goldstein so have gone Shaw to Simpson and then a couple of more rookie adjustments,
Def: Simpson, Bartel, Yeo, Harwood, Brown (Ess) Tucker ( Broad McDonald-Tip)
Mid: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Gray, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Gresham (Matthieson, Hibberd, Dunkley)
Ruck: Goldstein, Mumford (Cox)
Fwds: Martin, Westhoff, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, Pickett (Grimley, Adams)
Harwood could become MacKenzie/Aish depending on team selections,
If further cash required for rookie adjustments then will do Goldstein to Martin. Rookies place holders at the moment.
Keeper Bye Structure 4/4/6 (Only Libba doubtful)
Upgrade Targets
Defence: Shaw and McVeigh if they are maintaining scoring and other defenders who will make Top 10. To look at much later.
Mids: Watching performances and will jump on fallen prems or rising mid picers before price rises. Keeping an eye on all Swans mids to see which one of JPK, Hanners or Jack could come on. Others on radar Beams, Priddis (will definitely come in later it is just that current mids have higher ceilings), Ward, Wines.
Fwds: Lids, Montagna, Franklin and Dahlhaus on the radar,
Love it mate, very similar to mine, just a few different prem picks. Really like the side. Good Luck!
Had a play around with another structure so just wondering which team looks the best - Bear in mind Rookies in Both teams are not set.
Team 1 with a 3/5/2/3 Keeper structure
Def: Simpson, Bartel, Yeo, Harwood, Brown (Ess) Tucker ( Broad McDonald-Tip)
Mid: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Gray, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Gresham (Matthieson, Hibberd, Dunkley)
Ruck: Goldstein, Mumford (Cox)
Fwds: Martin, Westhoff, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, Pickett (Grimley, Adams)
v Team 2 with a 4/4/2/4 Structure
Def: Simpson, Bartel, Birchall, Yeo, Brown, (Ess) Tucker,( Hartley, Collins)
Mid: Pendles, Ablett, Gray, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Parish, Gresham (Matthieson, Hibberd, Dunkley)
Rucks: Martin, Mumford (King)
Fwds: Martin, Westhoff, Barlow, Franklin, Wells, Kerridge (Grimley, McDonald Tipp)
Team 1 is obviously the strongest but think Team 2 has the ability to make the cash more quickly. Team 2 also has one more keeper but just a little concerned with the defence. (Not counting Libba as keeper in both teams at this stage).
So effectively Fyfe v Birchall and Franklin
This is a team I am trialing till Rd 1.
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With the number of Defence and Forward rookies surfacing have gone real strong in the midfield. This obviously has effected other lines but think this team has the greater scoring potential. Have quite a few higher priced rookies and players and dependent on Rd 1 may drop back to lower priced if necessary.
Comments:
Defence - Shaw will finish in the Top 5 so why not spend the extra and start with him. Can not see him falling too much in value maybe a max of $40k. McGovern I think can break out this year and will go 90/95 which will be a keeper at D5/6. Harwood if named could be a keeper if he realises potential but if not will be a stepping stone. Balance rookies who will be finalised in Rd 1.
Mids - 5 Top Line mids who will be in the Top 10 and maybe even be the Top 5 mids for 2016, So gone for Points from Rd 1 to maximise chances. Libba is a musr at the price and may become a keeper. Balance Rookies but some higher priced including Mills, Parish and Gresham that may go down to lower priced foe maximum cash gain,
Rucks - Expect Goldy and Martin to be Top 4 rucks this yera so starting with set and forget. R3 although Grimley there at the moment could become Currie or Cox.
Forwards Martin and Barlow will be in Top 5 Forwards this year - De Goey I am predicting will have a break out year and hopefully remain at F6. Wells is a must at the price and what he is capable of. Rookies complete the forward structure.
Have $30k cash left to adjust rookies if required as well.
Bye Structure is 10/10/10 although keeper bye structure is 4/2/8 so will need monitoring as prems are brought in.
Reasonably happy with this team and have had fun going back through my various versions posted here.
Comments welcome.
Interested to know why you dropped Bartel & Simmo? Just didn't fit the new structure?
Still may make it - Backs are always up and down. Alarm Bells on bartel started ringing with the way Geelong were using him in NAB. Injury to Thurlow may now change that.
Dropping both Simmo and Bartel allowed Shaw who I really think is the only defender at this stage who will average 100+. Was originally targeting him as an upgrade and looking at the draw could not see him dropping more than 60k making it hard to get him in as an upgrade early. Hence why I decided to get him first.
If not comfortable with rookies named will do some further tweaking but as I said defence and mid rookies seem to be plentiful this year. Even Gault raised his hand with 2 good performances for Pies.
I like the De Goey pick. He has been in and out of my side for weeks.
I too reckon he'll have a breakout year
Everyone's teams seem to be changing significantly (mine included).
Structure changes are happening all over the place. This year seems like there's no 'safe' team to head into round 1 with. Guns and rookies doesn't really work because there aren't enough reliable rookies to choose from but then the mid price strategy has inherent risks associated to it.
Will Harwood be the Lumumba etc. of 2016? Simpkin, Kennedy... lots of players in this range that don't necessarily have massive upside but do have some value. For me, the laws of probability will prevail and a handful of these players won't perform in the season proper. Wells is the only sure thing in that price range.
I like your team mate, to start with a midfield of ablett, peddles, danger, fyfe, libba and rockliff is ridiculous and won't happen for a long time to come. To me, it just doesn't feel right leaving your fwd/def so exposed, particularly at the start of the season. What happens if one or two of your on-field rookies have a shocking start to the season and get dropped to the vfl for two weeks to improve? I just think it's too much risk, personally.
I am a great McGovern fan but he did tweak his shoulder again. He had to play through the pain last year but with McK and Brown back, and given his age, if it flares up IMO he will be rested
Quote from: piesfan1989 on March 06, 2016, 01:35:03 PM
Will Harwood be the Lumumba etc. of 2016?
Quite the opposite, I think he will be the Jamie MacMillan of of 2016. It's interesting that people are afraid to pay for mid-pricers in defence yet last year there were plenty that appreciated in value. This year I think guys like Harwood, Aish, Williams, Seedsman, Whitecross etc could really prove to be inspired picks. Not all of course but I predict there will be more winners than losers. Those who select wisely will be near the top of the tree IMO. Same goes for the forwards.
Just the final update before settling on Rd 1 Team.
must be the right team because it version 13 I have posted here and is on 13/3 so numbers align anyway. :D
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag128/therings1/Supercoach%202016/2016%20SC%20Draft%2013_zpsf9qckgjf.png)
May do some fiddling with rookies when known and go Grundy to Bartel. Although I think Grundy may be the major benefactor in the Swans line up with Rhyce Shaw's retirement.
Have gone away from the super premo mid field model as i think this structure and team is better balanced with 2 more keepers. Whoever ends up at D3 I want as keeper but beggars can not be choosy. Defence line has been doing my head in and have gone back to Shaw for reliability with 2 mid pricers who I see as upping their averages to 90+ which will do me for D5/6. Harwood may still become Weitering if I am not happy.
Rucks set and forget - have toyed with the idea of Goldy to Nat/Jacobs/Gawn but keep coming back.
Fwds: 2 prems plus degoey who I am tipping will go close to 90 and sit at F6. Wells if he lasts the season will sit at F5.
Zorko now a worry in forward line with todays report but he can become Dahlhaus, Martin or Wingard.
Rookies will be adjusted and Ruggles may come in if promoted for Broad or someone else.
Bye Structure: 8/12/10 Keepers: 3/5/6 Very manageable
very different defence i like it.
mids interesting NO fyfe or danger. good PODS in gray and priddis. not jumping on the crouch train?
solid rucks.
NO dusty? fwd line solid as well
Post NAB Team slight tweak of previous team. Harwood had to become Rich. Adjustments allowed Gray to Fyfe.
Rookies subject to being named and think all will bar Petracca who I will keep. Expensive rookies in team but may be adjusted for cheaper ones.
Zorko if gone for more than 2 weeks will become one of martin, Dahlhaus or Wingard. Fair bench covereage for 2 weeks.
Def: Shaw, Rich, McGovern, Weitering, Brown (Ess), Hartley (Broad, Adams)
Mids: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Menadue (Gresham, Bennedy, Petracca)
Rucks: Goldy, Martin (Cox)
Fwds: Zorko, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Grimley. McDonald Tipp)
If I need extra cash for rookie adjustment Fyfe/Pendles will revert to Gray.
With Zorkos suspension thinking of going Zorko to Robbo especially with Beams out indefinitely. Robbo averaged 118 for the 7 games Beams missed at end of last season and 2 tons in NAB cup. Very Nice pod if that is maintained and could be better than Zorks.
So Zorko to Robbo - Petracca to Davis (trusting he gets promoted) and Broad (who looks unlikely) to Dea.
Also contemplating Martin to Nic Nat and Priddis to Danger. Thoughts
Cannot argue with those changes. Think you're paying overs for Shaw but understand the rational being picking him. That being said if he was a mid you wouldn't pick him so don't know why it's any difference as a defender! Like the Rich pick, has been relatively durable and should improve on the average he's priced at.
Good luck mate
I'm considering d.martin to robinson as well, but worried he is a suspension threat :-\ :-\ :-\
Quote from: Samm79 on March 15, 2016, 12:52:01 PM
Cannot argue with those changes. Think you're paying overs for Shaw but understand the rational being picking him. That being said if he was a mid you wouldn't pick him so don't know why it's any difference as a defender! Like the Rich pick, has been relatively durable and should improve on the average he's priced at.
Good luck mate
Youd pick him as a defender because there arent any other high scoring options..to explain a reverse scenario...2 years ago everyone was jumping on pearce hanley as a defender..but when he changed to a mid only, nobody would touch him because there are other mid options..so you wouldnt pick hanley as a mid, but definitely would as a defender. You probably wouldnt have picked bontempelli as a mid but you definitely would consider if he was a fwd/mid this year. Makea complete sense to pick someone based on their position eligibility
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Quote from: Samm79 on March 15, 2016, 12:52:01 PM
Cannot argue with those changes. Think you're paying overs for Shaw but understand the rational being picking him. That being said if he was a mid you wouldn't pick him so don't know why it's any difference as a defender! Like the Rich pick, has been relatively durable and should improve on the average he's priced at.
Good luck mate
Youd pick him as a defender because there arent any other high scoring options..to explain a reverse scenario...2 years ago everyone was jumping on pearce hanley as a defender..but when he changed to a mid only, nobody would touch him because there are other mid options..so you wouldnt pick hanley as a mid, but definitely would as a defender. You probably wouldnt have picked bontempelli as a mid but you definitely would consider if he was a fwd/mid this year. Makea complete sense to pick someone based on their position eligibility
Understand this theory, but that was not the point I was getting at, I may not have explained it well enough!
What I was getting at was that you're paying overs for him, and if he was a midfielder he is not a value option. You wouldn't pick him as a mid only, not because a 112 average is not good enough, it's because there are better value alternatives available. The Bont and Hanley situation is different as they've never averaged enough to be a keeper mid.
As a back he is the highest scoring option but is far from the best value option. He is a player who in 8 years has only once played more than 20 games and only once averaged more than 101 in that time. You're paying for this player based on a 112 average and isn't good value based on these historic figures.
Almost no doubt he will be one of the top 3 defenders come year end based on
ave PPG, most likely the top, but you are paying top dollar for someone who's history suggests he'll miss 3-4 games and drop 5-15PPG. In a game of value and risk taking, this is why I do not consider him to be a good starting option.
You like many seem to have gone away from Harwood. He is still in my side and has stayed there for the last week or so. Lost confidence in him? Why?
I wish I had the stones to pick McGovern, high risk and reward selection.
Just moved robbo back into my side, was contemplating him before beams injury but they helped that pick along.
I like the cheap backline.
What's your thoughts on rich? I won't be picking him but interested to see why you are considering him as I have always regarded him very unreliable and one I could never see being common sense selection?
Thanks Eaglesman - Although conditions for Lions NAB not ideal very windy game 1 and very wet game 2 I was disappointed in Harwoods efforts. He had the opportunity to really nail the position but made too many mistakes. Was hoping for 80+ from him and can not see that based on what I saw. For the teams sake hope I am wrong though. In saying that I will probably have him in AF and DT as he is more suited there. I have a concern that he may be the first dropped when changes are required if he can not lift.
Rich will be back playing in the mids (was said by Leppa even before Beams set bac) which is why I went Harwood to Rich as Rich may now go 90+. Was back to his best last week with contested possessions. Rocky coming in may have an effect but do not think so. Think Rocky and Robbo will play on the ball allowing Rich to run more and use that lethal left boot. Tag is only my concern.
Jezza appeared to be the best option for me at that price. have a gut feel on Brodie Smith who was the other option. Think Jezza has more upside and with both risky went Jezza,
Hope that explains my decisions for you
Quote from: Ringo on March 15, 2016, 08:38:44 PM
Thanks Eaglesman - Although conditions for Lions NAB not ideal very windy game 1 and very wet game 2 I was disappointed in Harwoods efforts. He had the opportunity to really nail the position but made too many mistakes. Was hoping for 80+ from him and can not see that based on what I saw. For the teams sake hope I am wrong though. In saying that I will probably have him in AF and DT as he is more suited there. I have a concern that he may be the first dropped when changes are required if he can not lift.
Rich will be back playing in the mids (was said by Leppa even before Beams set bac) which is why I went Harwood to Rich as Rich may now go 90+. Was back to his best last week with contested possessions. Rocky coming in may have an effect but do not think so. Think Rocky and Robbo will play on the ball allowing Rich to run more and use that lethal left boot. Tag is only my concern.
Jezza appeared to be the best option for me at that price. have a gut feel on Brodie Smith who was the other option. Think Jezza has more upside and with both risky went Jezza,
Hope that explains my decisions for you
Hmm how do U work out what harwood is priced at? I have never really
Known how to do this. I was never expecting 90 avg. I would gladly take an 80 avg. But if he is priced at 60+ then he probably isn't worth it.
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Quote from: Ringo on March 15, 2016, 08:38:44 PM
Thanks Eaglesman - Although conditions for Lions NAB not ideal very windy game 1 and very wet game 2 I was disappointed in Harwoods efforts. He had the opportunity to really nail the position but made too many mistakes. Was hoping for 80+ from him and can not see that based on what I saw. For the teams sake hope I am wrong though. In saying that I will probably have him in AF and DT as he is more suited there. I have a concern that he may be the first dropped when changes are required if he can not lift.
Rich will be back playing in the mids (was said by Leppa even before Beams set bac) which is why I went Harwood to Rich as Rich may now go 90+. Was back to his best last week with contested possessions. Rocky coming in may have an effect but do not think so. Think Rocky and Robbo will play on the ball allowing Rich to run more and use that lethal left boot. Tag is only my concern.
Jezza appeared to be the best option for me at that price. have a gut feel on Brodie Smith who was the other option. Think Jezza has more upside and with both risky went Jezza,
Hope that explains my decisions for you
Hmm how do U work out what harwood is priced at? I have never really
Known how to do this. I was never expecting 90 avg. I would gladly take an 80 avg. But if he is priced at 60+ then he probably isn't worth it.
I have never known how to do this either. Harwood only played a few games last year so may have a small discount. I dropped Harwood to Weitering who I think will make more cash and then upgraded Grundy to Rich.
Quote from: Ringo on March 15, 2016, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 15, 2016, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 15, 2016, 08:38:44 PM
Thanks Eaglesman - Although conditions for Lions NAB not ideal very windy game 1 and very wet game 2 I was disappointed in Harwoods efforts. He had the opportunity to really nail the position but made too many mistakes. Was hoping for 80+ from him and can not see that based on what I saw. For the teams sake hope I am wrong though. In saying that I will probably have him in AF and DT as he is more suited there. I have a concern that he may be the first dropped when changes are required if he can not lift.
Rich will be back playing in the mids (was said by Leppa even before Beams set bac) which is why I went Harwood to Rich as Rich may now go 90+. Was back to his best last week with contested possessions. Rocky coming in may have an effect but do not think so. Think Rocky and Robbo will play on the ball allowing Rich to run more and use that lethal left boot. Tag is only my concern.
Jezza appeared to be the best option for me at that price. have a gut feel on Brodie Smith who was the other option. Think Jezza has more upside and with both risky went Jezza,
Hope that explains my decisions for you
Hmm how do U work out what harwood is priced at? I have never really
Known how to do this. I was never expecting 90 avg. I would gladly take an 80 avg. But if he is priced at 60+ then he probably isn't worth it.
I have never known how to do this either. Harwood only played a few games last year so may have a small discount. I dropped Harwood to Weitering who I think will make more cash and then upgraded Grundy to Rich.
Harwood is priced at 52 (just need to look at the guys either side of him on the list - McDonald and Impey)
I also went the Harwood to Rich move, I think with Hanley back some of the heat will be taken off Rich. At worst he will average 85, at best 95 if given a bit of licence to roam. He's a very low risk option and if he plays 22 games I wouldn't even be upset with 85. With his DPP one could even use him as midfield back-up if better options emerge, he's a nice type to loophole.
Quote from: Ringo on March 15, 2016, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 15, 2016, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 15, 2016, 08:38:44 PM
Thanks Eaglesman - Although conditions for Lions NAB not ideal very windy game 1 and very wet game 2 I was disappointed in Harwoods efforts. He had the opportunity to really nail the position but made too many mistakes. Was hoping for 80+ from him and can not see that based on what I saw. For the teams sake hope I am wrong though. In saying that I will probably have him in AF and DT as he is more suited there. I have a concern that he may be the first dropped when changes are required if he can not lift.
Rich will be back playing in the mids (was said by Leppa even before Beams set bac) which is why I went Harwood to Rich as Rich may now go 90+. Was back to his best last week with contested possessions. Rocky coming in may have an effect but do not think so. Think Rocky and Robbo will play on the ball allowing Rich to run more and use that lethal left boot. Tag is only my concern.
Jezza appeared to be the best option for me at that price. have a gut feel on Brodie Smith who was the other option. Think Jezza has more upside and with both risky went Jezza,
Hope that explains my decisions for you
Hmm how do U work out what harwood is priced at? I have never really
Known how to do this. I was never expecting 90 avg. I would gladly take an 80 avg. But if he is priced at 60+ then he probably isn't worth it.
I have never known how to do this either. Harwood only played a few games last year so may have a small discount. I dropped Harwood to Weitering who I think will make more cash and then upgraded Grundy to Rich.
Too Serious will give you the prices based on average, just go into the calculator and plug in the values. Alternatively look at a players price and average and that will give you a guide, as long as there's no deduction for injury.
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Quote from: Ringo on March 15, 2016, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 15, 2016, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 15, 2016, 08:38:44 PM
Thanks Eaglesman - Although conditions for Lions NAB not ideal very windy game 1 and very wet game 2 I was disappointed in Harwoods efforts. He had the opportunity to really nail the position but made too many mistakes. Was hoping for 80+ from him and can not see that based on what I saw. For the teams sake hope I am wrong though. In saying that I will probably have him in AF and DT as he is more suited there. I have a concern that he may be the first dropped when changes are required if he can not lift.
Rich will be back playing in the mids (was said by Leppa even before Beams set bac) which is why I went Harwood to Rich as Rich may now go 90+. Was back to his best last week with contested possessions. Rocky coming in may have an effect but do not think so. Think Rocky and Robbo will play on the ball allowing Rich to run more and use that lethal left boot. Tag is only my concern.
Jezza appeared to be the best option for me at that price. have a gut feel on Brodie Smith who was the other option. Think Jezza has more upside and with both risky went Jezza,
Hope that explains my decisions for you
Hmm how do U work out what harwood is priced at? I have never really
Known how to do this. I was never expecting 90 avg. I would gladly take an 80 avg. But if he is priced at 60+ then he probably isn't worth it.
I have never known how to do this either. Harwood only played a few games last year so may have a small discount. I dropped Harwood to Weitering who I think will make more cash and then upgraded Grundy to Rich.
Harwood is priced at 52 (just need to look at the guys either side of him on the list - McDonald and Impey)
52! ... Gee Harwood is certainly a fine selection then but perhaps weitering would make more cash
I've got him at D3 and Weits at D4. Harwood was a butcher that first NAB game (even though the conditions weren't great) but still scored decently. The hard part for him I assume is to make sure he holds down the spot and if he is looking pretty casual about it he might be back in the 2's.
Confirmation from the assistant coach Danny Daly that I made a calculated decision with Rich
On Daniel Rich:
“Obviously, last year coming off a knee reconstruction - Richy had 28 possessions for the game 16 of those contested, he also had 10 inside 50s and 10 score involvements.
“He’s been training in the midfield throughout the whole pre-season. He’ll probably play 90% of his time through the midfield.
“He actually had five centre bounce clearances for the game. His ability to read the play; we all know he has a beautiful kick on him, and his ability to work through the lines as a midfielder and get that ball into our forwards is going to be crucial for us in 2016.â€
Interesting read. Dont think i will go near Robbo myself too worried about him doing something stupid and missing a game or multiple.
Are you going Cox purely for the VC loop hole?
I have taken Harwood out a while ago. Now still unsure about putting Rich in there
Just have Cox to interchange with Grimley but may just have Grimley at R3 and another rookie on bench and take pot luck with loophole.
Robbo has really matured up here so while there is that doubt still there it is not as worrying previously. Always the option to trade back to Zorks anyway which I will have to do when Beams comes back.
Just one other consideration Menandue back to forwards meaning Wells at F3 and then de Goey to Crouch,
So in essence DeGoey v Brad Crouch ups and down for both but tempted to stay with DeGoey.
What about all of the other years he's played pure midfield?
Do you really have faith in him to hold up for a whole season?
Quote from: Ringo on March 14, 2016, 10:18:02 AM
Def: Shaw, Rich, McGovern, Weitering, Brown (Ess), Hartley (Broad, Adams)
Mids: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Menadue (Gresham, Bennedy, Petracca)
Rucks: Goldy, Martin (Cox)
Fwds: Zorko, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Grimley. McDonald Tipp)
Hi Ringo, just returning the favour as promised.
DEF: Weitering over Dea? Interesting call, both will have JS issues throughout the year (debutant vs. who knows what Essendon will do week to week), but I feel that Dea has more upside than key defender in their first season. Rest is solid.
MID: Priddis good POD, great lineup.
RUC: Very solid, both a chance of being #1 in the comp.
FWD: Guessing Zorko is out due to the suspension? Loving the De Goey pick, dont have the balls for that pick. Kids got potential, but there's so much talent in that side, not all of them can score well...
OVERALL: Love the side, hardly any flaws. Setting yourself for greatness. Jealous.
Here is my final team after yet more adjustments and waiting Rd 1 -
Plan if all rookies not named one of Shaw, Pendles or Goldy may be downgraded. Possibly Pendles,
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag128/therings1/Supercoach%202016/2016%20SC%20Draft%2014%2021-3-16_zpsawyserml.png)
Gee this looks so different to first team ;D
Great team, Ringo. I think you're set up for a rock-solid season.
Almost don't want to critique at this late stage, as with three days to go it comes down to personal choice and gut-feel.
But for what it's worth:
Defence: unless you absolutely LOVE McGovern, I'd downgrade Cutter to Weitering, and upgrade McGovern to KK / Laird / McDonald (personally, I prefer Laird)
Midfield, Rucks, & Forwards: I like how you've avoided Petracca, but you have no loophole atm; personally I'd think about Petracca in the Mids, and moving Kennedy onto the Forward line in place of McCarthy. Use the cash to upgrade either Priddes to Dangerfield, Gawn to S.Martin, or move Mcdonald-Tippa into Defence in place of Ruggles (if he doesn't get named) and bring in Milera. Other cash for the same move (or to make two of the above moves) would be Robinson to Hall. I'm sold hook-line-and-sinker on Hall this season, in spite of the skeptics.
But really... this is absolutely reaching.
I hope you have a great season, mate.
Yep, great team. Can you get kennedy into the forward line? Think he'll score better than Mccarthy. I'm not a big wrap for McGovern either, but if he stays injury free, could have a big one. Robinson seems a little pricey to me. But it looks great. Good luck
Kennedy and McCarthy interchangeable via DPP also Menadue.
Each year I nominate a Lions player to break out and this year it is Cuts which is why he is in my team and a little POD for me. Think he will score more than Weitering and make more cash but my opinion.
Awaiting Rookies in team announcements to finalise and possible tweaking as I only have $4k cash left.
Sound reasoning.
I actually have Weitering for the same reason :) Not because I think he'll score 75+, but because I want someone to in my team from the Blues apart from Kerridge, who everyone has (it's taking all my discipline to not choose Graham over Libba!).
Anyway, you're well and truly set apart from Rookie confirmation.
Good luck for the season, Ringo!
Sound reasoning. Would love if you could give my team a once over if you get the time! Cheers
Done, Glenmaggie!
(Although that request may have been aimed at Ringo, and not me ;) )
Quote from: Ringo on March 21, 2016, 10:20:22 AM
Here is my final team after yet more adjustments and waiting Rd 1 -
Plan if all rookies not named one of Shaw, Pendles or Goldy may be downgraded. Possibly Pendles,
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag128/therings1/Supercoach%202016/2016%20SC%20Draft%2014%2021-3-16_zpsawyserml.png)
Gee this looks so different to first team ;D
I like it mate, I wouldn't be making any more changes
Hanley nominated Cutler to have a big year Captains Day, did you see that Ringo.
Quote from: Grazz on March 23, 2016, 03:07:38 AM
Hanley nominated Cutler to have a big year Captains Day, did you see that Ringo.
Ssssh - Why do you think I went Cutler over Harwood, ;)
Good side with some risk which i always like, interesting on cutler hopefully works for you!
Will Mason Cox play?
Priddis pick is great and usually doesn't get picked as much as other stars which will work i believe
Overall awesome side mate
Cox could become Grimley when I adjust rookies when final teams named. McGovern may also become Lonergan as another downgrade option for cash if needed,
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Quote from: Grazz on March 23, 2016, 03:07:38 AM
Hanley nominated Cutler to have a big year Captains Day, did you see that Ringo.
Ssssh - Why do you think I went Cutler over Harwood, ;)
Cutler on extended bench, going to keep him or swap for Harwood?
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Quote from: Ringo on March 23, 2016, 09:21:27 AM
Quote from: Grazz on March 23, 2016, 03:07:38 AM
Hanley nominated Cutler to have a big year Captains Day, did you see that Ringo.
Ssssh - Why do you think I went Cutler over Harwood, ;)
Cutler on extended bench, going to keep him or swap for Harwood?
Will be awaiting final teams tonight. A lot will depend on where coaching staff believe fitness of Claye Beams is.
What are you going to do with the 2 rookies that arnt playing ringo? Who you turning them into?
Subject to final teams this is where i am at the moment:
Have moved both McDonaldTip and Adams back to defence in place of Hartley and Ruggles. No DPP to fwds now but think better that way with the defence rookies crumbling.
Moved Menadue to forwards before last nights game. Both Kerridge and Menadue on field as F5 and F6. *(168 points from both not too shabby). McAtthy on bench and also brought in Milera.
Changed Cox to Goetz who I will use as a floating do nut after looking at Doggies draw. (they have 15 games Saturday night or later) Allows loopholes this week and next which the Kings did not.
So still a bit of wait for Rd 1 teams to be finalised and if Cutler does not make cut a rejig may be necessary. Shaw down is one option considering do not want to but may be forced.
Haha I'm lost! Which 1 forward and 1 mid did you bring in to replace them?
Sounds good from what you e done though!
After all the tinkering Milera and Hewett are new to fwds and mids,
And downgraded somewhere else like McGovern to lonergan to get the money?
Quote from: essendon on March 25, 2016, 03:15:27 PM
And downgraded somewhere else like McGovern to lonergan to get the money?
Yep Sorry did not realise I had not posted the downgrade of McGovern to Lonergan.
No Harwood?
Yep - Think Cutler the better option for me in SC.
Quote from: Ringo on March 25, 2016, 09:45:39 PM
Yep - Think Cutler the better option for me in SC.
That's made me less confident in starting Harwood :(
Round 1 Update
OK off to a lousy start with a score of 2071 ranking me 62758 Worst start for me in 5 years but can only go up.
Rd 1 Team
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Lonergan, Cutler, Dea, Adams (Brown(Ess), McDonald Tip)
Mids: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Gresham ( Bennedy, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Menandue, Kerridge (McArthy, Milera)
The Good: Priddis, Ablett, Lonergan, Goldstein, Libba, Mills, Dea, Adams, Kerridge, Menadue, Wells
The Bad/Average: Bartel (only because of time spent off field), Cutler, Gawn, deGoey
The Ugly: Shaw, Fyfe, Rockliff, Gresham, Pendles, Robinson, Barlow. Having 4 bench players including Kennedy scoring more than on field players.
Not planning on trading this week unless a major injury comes up. Trades are gold and do not want to run out chasing points.
Players under watch for correction Pendles, Fyfe, Robbo although expect all to bounce back.
Rookies under watch for possible correction Milera and Gresham.
Quote from: Ringo on March 29, 2016, 11:01:29 AM
Round 1 Update
OK off to a lousy start with a score of 2071 ranking me 62758 Worst start for me in 5 years but can only go up.
Rd 1 Team
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Lonergan, Cutler, Dea, Adams (Brown(Ess), McDonald Tip)
Mids: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Gresham ( Bennedy, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Menandue, Kerridge (McArthy, Milera)
The Good: Priddis, Ablett, Lonergan, Goldstein, Libba, Mills, Dea, Adams, Kerridge, Menadue, Wells
The Bad/Average: Bartel (only because of time spent off field), Cutler, Gawn, deGoey
The Ugly: Shaw, Fyfe, Rockliff, Gresham, Pendles, Robinson, Barlow. Having 4 bench players including Kennedy scoring more than on field players.
Not planning on trading this week unless a major injury comes up. Trades are gold and do not want to run out chasing points.
Players under watch for correction Pendles, Fyfe, Robbo although expect all to bounce back.
Rookies under watch for possible correction Milera and Gresham.
good side ringo. how did de goey go. i didn't see his score.
unlucky on players who were on bench. bennedy made my score much more respectable
only scored 63 so he is a watch and see as well.
Will be interesting to see De Goey in the next 2 weeks. No Steele and Swan out, hopefully he can lift his score only if Collingwood lift their performance as well. Getting a 90 point belting won't give too many people a chance to ton up.
Quote from: NickyBoy on March 29, 2016, 02:29:01 PM
Will be interesting to see De Goey in the next 2 weeks. No Steele and Swan out, hopefully he can lift his score only if Collingwood lift their performance as well. Getting a 90 point belting won't give too many people a chance to ton up.
well im hoping with no steele that pendles goes beserk
Not trading this week although forward line will be look but loopholing Milera and McCarthy and unfortunately will have to make that call at half time.
Milera is on watch and may become Papley next week and if Robbo still out he may become Hall/Zorko
Quote from: Ringo on April 01, 2016, 11:25:08 AM
Not trading this week although forward line will be look but loopholing Milera and McCarthy and unfortunately will have to make that call at half time.
Milera is on watch and may become Papley next week and if Robbo still out he may become Hall/Zorko
I think holding Robbo is the right call. He started the 2nd half really well and was tracking to 80 after a really disappointing first half. They said it is a slight tear so I am expecting he will be out two weeks and good to go. Simmo seemed to recover pretty well from his calf last year after and only missed the 2.
We will also get some clarity on the Swans rookies next week after a 2nd performance so Milera>Papley could be the right move pending selections.
Ringos Rocky Road living up to the team name very rocky start.
Rd 2 Score 2026 >:( >:(
Total Rank 70019 (Can I get any worse)
Mucked the vc loophole due to going to gabba as well so stuck with Goldys c score
Rd 2 Team
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Lonergan, Cutler, Dea, Adams (Brown(Ess), McDonald Tip)
Mids: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Gresham ( Bennedy, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Menandue, Kerridge (McArthy, Milera)
No trades yet but probably need to take some action this week.
Papley in is a must but who for Gresham the likely target via DPP but would give me 2 mid rookies with DPP on mids bench. Or Go Milera/McCarthy to Papley. (Milera redeemed himself this week). B/E Milera -20, McCarthy -23 and Gresham 3. Gresham via DPP looks like the go.
Then which premium to attack although loathe to change premiums.
Defenders: Bartel, Shaw, Lonergan and Cutler. Cutler will survive as he will get his B/E but could become Hartley next week. Bartel and Shaw I think will still finish Top 10 as they are only out of form. Lonergan had a form drop but can still make his B/e
Mids: Rocky the real worry but he is a champion and champions always bounce back. Pendles and Fyfe may also loose cash but banking on them to bounce back.
Rucks: They are also loosing cash but everyone in the same boat. Think the change in deliberate out of bounds has rules and HTB interpretations has decreased the amount of hitouts per game.
Fwds: Real concern here with Barlow and DeGoey spudding and Robbo Injury concern.
Rookies doing OK and all making money, (can even keep Gresham but he has a positive B/e)
Am concerned about Barlow to Hall as Rocket has said Jack Martin when he gets more much fitness will also go into mids. may effect Lonergan as well so not getting to immersed in the Hall hype.
may be stupid but unless i have real injury concerns thinking of still holding the other trade. Want another look at Zorko next week.
got a few issues there ringo.
DEF: bartel and shaw will definitely be top 10 by years end. Lonergan can still be a great buy. Cutler will need to go soon.
MIDS: Depending on how long rocky is out for can you afford to hold? Gresham i feel will get the axe this week
Rucks: fine everyone in a similar boat.
FWDS: barlow and de goey the big worries here. de goey will probs lose cash here very soon.
i'm thinking bring in papley for gresham and swing menadue up into the mids or kerridge.
hopefully things get better from here
Thanks Sammy agree
Waiting injury reports to see what second trade I do. Gresham to Papley via DPP is definitely to be done. Probably via Robbo if he does not play if not Kerridge or Bennedy,
If Rocky out thinking Rocky to Parker or similar. Rocky will have a B/e of 184 when he comes baxk so may be able to pick up again cheaper.
You gonna trade Rocky even if it's only a 1 or 2 week injury Ringo? My decision will be dependant on Gresham holding his spot or not. If Gresham plays I'll trade Rocky to Papley otherwise Gresham gets dropped I'll hold Rocky and trade Gresham to Papley.
Doesn't sound too bad a strain from reading this:
Rockliff and Rich had scans on Monday after sitting out the final quarter against the Kangaroos, with both being cleared of any major damage.
The skipper seems in the most strife though, with Lions football manager Matthew Francis saying he was doubtful to take on the Cats.
"He's been scanned and it's nothing major, but it's doubtful he'll get up for this week," Francis told AFL.com.au.
"We've got an eight-day break and it's early in the week, so we don't want to rule him out yet."
Hey mate,
Bad luck has followed you over the first two rounds, but all is not lost as your under performing prems will come back and the players who you don't have that got off to a flyer will have down weeks, not much separates the pack at the moment.
It's a risk/reward situation to get it back, trying to find cheap keepers and freeing up some cash for the future is what I'd look to do, it may backfire but I think a few calculated risks can pay off.
DeGoey and Cutler are mid-pricers so shouldn't bleed too much so they can wait, and an unlikely ton from each of them this week wouldn't go astray and will give you 3 weeks to play with them, they just need to deliver!
Robbo has had his annual holiday and should give you what you picked him up to do.
Barlow and Rocky are the two I'd look to trade, either to Papley or an undervalued keeper/stepping stone, need to get some $$ into the team whether it be via an appreciating Zaha or Zerrett. There are Zorko, and other more seasoned premiums who you can go to and while these will be more likely to delivery you won't move as far forward as you would with a more risky move, but may move you further back.......
I like risky, good luck mate.
Thanks Sammy - Am even looking at Jack Martin as well as Zerett or Zaha. Just working out how to do it and waiting on teams.
Quite a few concerns here Ringo. Gresham to papley looks like the best option to me. Not convinced gresham will play over the next few weeks. Bartel to me is your biggest problem. He's struggling in a slow team. Not sure he'll average much more than 80 this year. He'll be rested later as well. Jj looks like the best option. Then wait and see, hopefully Robinson back this week or next and barlow goes back in the middle
OK Initial trades Gresham to Papley and Rocky to Sam Mitchell. Taking a punt on Sam Mitchell I know but will be still thereabouts at the end unless suspension intervenes. Has averaged in excess of 100 in all but 2 seasons and starting season with a bang. B/E only 69 as well so increase in value will occur.
Will Assess Bartel and Barlow this week.
Trades may be reversed when teams announced.
I like it. What about parker instead of Mitchel? He's set for a fantastic year and he saves you 50k. Just a thought
Just a little concerned with all Sydney mids - Hanners, JPK, Titchell and Jack whether in the long run they will start sharing the points a lot more.
Yep as a swans supporter i like this problem. Fair point, the thing he has going for him is he is the most versatile of the swans mids. Can go forward and take a contested mark and loves a goal. I'd love to have him but went cripps instead.
Round 3 Update:
Rd 3 Score: 2319
Rd 3 Rank: 22876
Total Rank : 50280 up 19769
Trades done Gresham to Papley via DPP and Rocky to Sam Mitchell
28 trades remaining and $20k cash.
Rd 3 Team
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Lonergan, McDonald Tip, Dea, Adams (Brown(Ess), Cutler)
Mids: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Mitchell, Libba, Mills, Kerridge ( Menandue, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells,Bennedy , Papley (McArthy, Milera)
The Good: Rucks combining for 342 SC Points, Ablett, Adams, Shaw and Bartel returning to form.
The Average: Priddis, Fyfe, Pendles, Wells and Sam Mitchell with DeGoey and Barlow showing some form.
The Bad: Taking C of Goldy to take Abletts score only cost 37 points, Cutler and Lonergan continue to struggle, Libba slowng down but still with a B/e 37 so can still hold. Rookies with exception of Adams and maybe Papley slowing down but only Menadue has a positive B/e. Leaving McCarthy on bench.
Issues:
Cutler but has a B/e of 46 which he should achieve.
Menadue close to maximizing out with a B/e of 19
Dunkley not named last week but still has a negative B/e and has not made cash so will keep.
Will wait for team announcements but really thinking of no trades this week. However if Menadue is not named may do Manadue to Hartley via DPP. Will know early as Richmond play first game.
Next week
Cutler to Ruggles
and upgrade one of deGoey, Lonergan or Libba to a prem.
Do not mind not missing out on Hartley so if Menandue Named will probably not trade.
My only issue is I have no real loophole this week so going Priddis into Gaz. (one of the few times both Dogs and Geelong play early)
U got me by 1 point, yet somehow there were 400 people between us this week! Nice score, I too took the C of Goldy and took Ablett's score. I think U left SMitch our of the team, only 7 mids there.
Quote from: Hawker_08 on April 11, 2016, 01:45:17 PM
U got me by 1 point, yet somehow there were 400 people between us this week! Nice score, I too took the C of Goldy and took Ablett's score. I think U left SMitch our of the team, only 7 mids there.
Just shows how quickly you can go up it means that there were 400 people who scored the same as me. Fixed my team as well used the wrong team to copy and paste.
Quote from: Ringo on April 11, 2016, 11:01:53 AM
Round 3 Update:
Rd 3 Score: 2319
Rd 3 Rank: 22876
Total Rank : 50280 up 19769
Trades done Gresham to Papley via DPP and Rocky to Sam Mitchell
28 trades remaining and $20k cash.
Rd 3 Team
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Lonergan, McDonald Tip, Dea, Adams (Brown(Ess), Cutler)
Mids: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Mitchell, Libba, Mills, Kerridge ( Menandue, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells,Bennedy , Papley (McArthy, Milera)
The Good: Rucks combining for 342 SC Points, Ablett, Adams, Shaw and Bartel returning to form.
The Average: Priddis, Fyfe, Pendles, Wells and Sam Mitchell with DeGoey and Barlow showing some form.
The Bad: Taking C of Goldy to take Abletts score only cost 37 points, Cutler and Lonergan continue to struggle, Libba slowng down but still with a B/e 37 so can still hold. Rookies with exception of Adams and maybe Papley slowing down but only Menadue has a positive B/e. Leaving McCarthy on bench.
Issues:
Cutler but has a B/e of 46 which he should achieve.
Menadue close to maximizing out with a B/e of 19
Dunkley not named last week but still has a negative B/e and has not made cash so will keep.
Will wait for team announcements but really thinking of no trades this week. However if Menadue is not named may do Manadue to Hartley via DPP. Will know early as Richmond play first game.
Next week
Cutler to Ruggles
and upgrade one of deGoey, Lonergan or Libba to a prem.
Do not mind not missing out on Hartley so if Menandue Named will probably not trade.
My only issue is I have no real loophole this week so going Priddis into Gaz. (one of the few times both Dogs and Geelong play early)
good score for the week ringo. The trades you are making sound solid as well. good pick in S mitchell think he can be a really good POD for us
Why not wait next week to get Ruggles and get HArtley this week for Cutler and Ruggles for Brown next week
Quote from: Capper on April 12, 2016, 12:27:12 PM
Why not wait next week to get Ruggles and get HArtley this week for Cutler and Ruggles for Brown next week
Just slightly concerned that Hartley may be dropped this week for Grima. If hartley named may pull the trigger on him this week.
I am considering Hartley too but am concerned looking at my team and the large number of Ess players in there! :o
Tippa-Dea-MBrown and maybe Hartley..
Looking at your team it doesn't look like you must trade so holding may be wise.
Thanks and just looking at yours as well maybe hold. Team announcements may change things a little but leaning towards holding missing on Hartley which may be a blessing and doing 2 trades next week.
Round 4 Update:
Rd 4 Score: 2014
Rd 4 Rank: 46127
Total Rank : 46846 up 3794
No trades for the week
28 trades remaining and $20k cash.
Rd 4 Team
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Lonergan, McDonald Tip, Dea, Adams (Brown(Ess), Cutler)
Mids: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Mitchell, Libba, Mills, Kerridge ( Menandue, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells,Bennedy , Papley (McArthy, Milera)
The Good: Mitchell and Fyfe (If only had the c on one of them), Continued mooing of rookies Adams (Could he be my d6/d7 with DPP on the cards if he maintains form). McDonald-Tip, Dea, Brown, Mills and to a lesser extent Bennedy. Cutler reaching my expectations. Rucks continue to do well, Goldy as captain. Wells continues to impress and fingers crossed remains injury free so he can fill F5/6,
The Average: Bartel and Barlow continuing to show some form. Kerridge maintaining his average. Ablett and Pendles. Libba maintaining his strong showing. DeGoey and Robinson although degoey still a watch for upgrade in due course.
The Bad: Priddis a late withdrawal, Papley, Menadue, Milera, Shaw, Lonergan, Davis. Cutler on bench with his 97.
Issues:
Papley B/E 62; Milera B/E 61, Menandue B/E 52 and Davis B/E 17 Dunkley and McCarthy both have negative B/E and should get more games so retaining.
Lonergan really struggling, DeGoey although has an achievable B/e and Cutler still on watch despite his 97.
What to do this week.
Need to build cash so
Papley to Byrne Jones via DPP
At a loss for next trade do I do Lonergan down to Byrne or Ruggles as LOnergan continues to bleed cash. Means playing 3 of Adamas. McDonald Tipp, Dea, Byrne Jones or Byrne/Ruggles each week. However the way they are scoring should be OK till ready to milk.
Do not see any rookie forwards or mids available this week to downgrade Menadue or Milera.
Edit - Could go a week early and do Milera to Sumner but not convinced on him.
Trading papley to Byrne Jones and Lonergan to Byrne leaves me a cash kitty of $352k to deal with Barlow, Bartel or DeGoey unless they perform.
You could use trade #2 to go Lonergan > Biggs or Suckling. With JJ gone now they may score even better.
I am in a similar boat except I have JJ to deal with.
Thinking Pap to DBJ and JJ to Rance. (have a look if you get time)
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,105656.msg1746147.html#new
Might as well trade Milera seeing he has done a quad mate
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-18/crow-brad-crouch-a-chance-to-return-for-hawks-clash (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-18/crow-brad-crouch-a-chance-to-return-for-hawks-clash)
could you upgrade milera?
Not a lot of optiuns to upgrade Milera to with only 112K.
These are options as I see them for trade 2.
a) Milera to Byrne/Ruggles via Brown DPP leaving me $200k for upgrades.
b) Lonergan to Byrne/Ruggles leaving me $350k
c) Lonergan to Weitering leaving me with $139k - Missed a bit of the cash rise but still estimated to go up a further $100k before byes
d) Uprade Lonergan to Biggs, Pittard, Savage, Yeo and Birchall -
With Milera not named he will not lose any value so unless McCarthy not named Option a will not be done.
Tossing up between b and d with Biggs the preferred as he is averaging 95 at the moment and think with Johannisen may be the one to benefit further.
Milera to Menzel? If he kicked a bit straighter on the weekend he'd be looking at a couple of 90s. Could be a decent cow
Round 5 Update:
Rd 5 Score: 2066
Rd 4 Rank: 46296
Total Rank : 44600 up 1886
Trades for Week - Milera to Byrne Jones and Jesses Lonergan to Ruggles
26 trades remaining and $364k cash.
Rd 4 Team:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Lonergan, Dea, Adams, Cutler (Brown(Ess), Ruggles )
Mids: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Mitchell, Libba, Mills, Kerridge ( Menandue, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Bennedy , McDonald Tip (McArthy, Papley)
The Good: Rucks outstanding (About the only thing I got right this year), Papley (Glad Milera forced my trade ;) ) Shaw, Adams, Byrne-Jones, Pendles, Kerridge, Mills, Barlow, DeGoey
The Average Adams, Ablett, Libba, Wells, Robinson, McDonald-Tip.
The Bad and Ugly Sam Mitchell, Bartel, Priddis, Bennedy, Fyfe also c and Cutler (was looking good before injury) and the big one Papley on bench >:(
So with Fyfe ($625k) definitely LTI and he will have to be traded:
So to who:
Options:
Dangerfield (650k) B/e 145
Hannerbery (620k) B/e 120
Jelwood (579k) B/e 95
At the moment thinking Fyfe to Danger and depending on medical report on Cutler
Cutler to Simpson/Gibson not real keen as defenders so up and down and rookies scoring just as well so could hol dCutler on bench and downgrade to Lee next 2 weeks depending on teams
Bennedy to Jelwood who has bottomed out and starting to rise. Giving me six prem mids + Libba and Mills. Kerridge as M8 Still leaves me 50k as well (20k short of Menadue to Selwood but Menandue forward and downgrade to Cox/Smith in a fortnight as well.)
That are the plans at the moment but as we know team announcements change decisions.
Fyfe to Danger
Bennedy to Selwood.
scored about 20 more points than me and i dropped 2000 places :(.
trades sound solid ringo
Do you think Dea will make his 67 BE? Im trading him
Thanks Capper another option which I had not seen. Will probably do Dea to selwood via DPP's and leaves me $68k in the bank.
Downgrades over the next couple of weeks Dea, Menadue, Davis and upgrade Cutler.
I like the Fyfe to Danger and Bennedy to Selwood trades, I'm thinking those two should be the highest priority for you right now. Menadue and Dea not far away. Davis I think still has a little while to go, he wasn't omitted this week but instead was listed as rested, so I'm thinking he will be a bit like McCarthy in that sense.
Other possible options instead of Jelwood: R. Gray, Titchell, Treloar, Ward. But really, theres nothing wrong with Selwood, its all personal preference.
Round 6 Update:
Rd 6 Score: 2110
Rd 6 Rank: 23769
Total Rank : 36626 up 7974
Trades for Week - Fyfe to Dangerfield, Cutler to Selwood
24 trades remaining and $80k cash.
Rd 6 Team:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Dea, Adams, McDonald Tip, Byrne-Jones (Brown(Ess), Ruggles )
Mids: Dangerfield, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Selwood, Mitchell, Libba, Kerridge ( Mills, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Bennedy , Papley (McArthy, Menandue)
The Good: Shaw, Bartel, Danger, Selwood, Wells, Barlow, Robinson, Bennedy Finally getting 2 trades right :)
The Average Adams, Byrne-Jones, Ablett, Pendles, DeGoey, Papley, McDonald-Tipp, Kerridge, Gawn
The Bad and Ugly Sam Mitchell, DEA, Priddis,Libba, Goldy - Browns 88 sittig on pine.
Trades this week
Dea to Tucker if named and Dea needs to go
Menandue/Davis to Smith
Finally heading in right direction and up some 34k places in last 3 weeks,
Quote from: Ringo on May 02, 2016, 06:03:53 PM
Round 6 Update:
Rd 6 Score: 2110
Rd 6 Rank: 23769
Total Rank : 36626 up 7974
Trades for Week - Fyfe to Dangerfield, Cutler to Selwood
24 trades remaining and $80k cash.
Rd 6 Team:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Dea, Adams, McDonald Tip, Byrne-Jones (Brown(Ess), Ruggles )
Mids: Dangerfield, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Selwood, Mitchell, Libba, Kerridge ( Mills, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Bennedy , Papley (McArthy, Menandue)
The Good: Shaw, Bartel, Danger, Selwood, Wells, Barlow, Robinson, Bennedy Finally getting 2 trades right :)
The Average Adams, Byrne-Jones, Ablett, Pendles, DeGoey, Papley, McDonald-Tipp, Kerridge, Gawn
The Bad and Ugly Sam Mitchell, DEA, Priddis,Libba, Goldy - Browns 88 sittig on pine.
Trades this week
Dea to Tucker if named and Dea needs to go
Menandue/Davis to Smith
Finally heading in right direction and up some 34k places in last 3 weeks,
team is coming along nicely ringo. good job. sound trades as well
Quote from: Ringo on May 02, 2016, 06:03:53 PM
Trades this week
Dea to Tucker if named and Dea needs to go
Menandue/Davis to Smith
Would you be better off getting some more $$ for your trades? Dea to Tucker makes sense, but I would go Bennedy to Smith instead.
You'll get more dollars, swing Kerridge forward and you can then loop Mills and Smith this week.
Hey Ringo,
I think we're at the stage where the classic one-up, one-down trades become more viable. This week the rookies aren't so appealing that a double downgrade makes sense. Tucker for example doesn't scream 'must-have' to me. If I had your team i'd be looking to go:
Bennedy --> Smith (via Kerridge fwd as mentioned) *Gain 190k, bank now @ 270k*
Dea +270k bank --> Any defender sub-570k
Options would likely be: Houli, Laird, Docherty, Boyd, Simpson etc which would all leave you with some cash for the following week.
Thanks MC and Sam both makes sense.
Just think Bennedy has more cash to make and playing Suns. Just wondering whether Menadue to Smith may be the way to go but means my options are only Docherty and Houli. Decisions, Decisions
Quote from: Ringo on May 03, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
Thanks MC and Sam both makes sense.
Just think Bennedy has more cash to make and playing Suns. Just wondering whether Menadue to Smith may be the way to go but means my options are only Docherty and Houli. Decisions, Decisions
Docherty and Houli are both top-10 defenders this year, seems pretty good to me!
Round 7 Update:
Rd 7 Score: 2154
Rd 6 Rank: 20786
Total Rank : 30719 up 5907
Worst Rank: 70719 Rd 2 so up 40k places since round 2 going in right direction
Trades for Week - Bennedy to Josh Smith and Dea to Simpson. ( and true to my SC year both scored well above B/E)
Cash $56k
Rd 7 Team:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Simpson, M. Adams, McDonald Tip, Byrne-Jones (Brown(Ess), Ruggles )
Mids: Dangerfield, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Selwood, Libba, Mills, J Smith ( Sam Mitchell, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Kerridge , Papley (McArthy, Menandue)
The Good Shaw, Simpson, Bartel, McDonald Tip, Byrne Jones, Dangerfield, Selwood, Pendlebury, Gawn, M. Brown
The Average OK Adams, Ruggles, Libba, Goldy, Kerridge, Papley, Menadue
The Bad Ablett, Priddis, Mitchell, Smith, Wells, Barlow, Robbo, De Goey. Sam Mitchell late out. M. Brown on bench.
Trades I am thinking off this week:
a) Mills to Petracca and De Goey to Zorko, Montagna, N Riewoldt or Dahlhaus. Want Zorko but may have too many Round 15 bye prems already have 8 out.
b as above but McCarthy being upgraded.
c) McCarthy to Petracca and Mills to Keays banking the cash but meaning I have to play one of Smith or Keays on the ground and lose DPP.
Leaning towards b) but not overly confident on De Goey at this time. Should not lose a lot though if he does not reach B/E,
Double downgrade gives me cash in bank approx $400k for upgrades.
Option a and b maintain my $60k bank.
McPherson will be traded in next week as he looks to have secured a position in Suns team probably for Davis but will not generate a lot of cash to do a down up.
Decisions decisions
team is looking real good ringo. keepp it up
Trade being considered depending on teams named:
Mills to Petracca and McCarthy to Dustin Martin. Just looked at Dustys draw and his price and B/E and think this may be the way to go and really bye friendly given my Rd 15 bye prems. Downside though only $24k left.
Can cover Adams with Ruggles or Brown so no need to trade him just yet.
The current issues with my team:
DeGoey but think I will persevere till byes and wear the ups and downs.
Dunkley not playing but providing a handy loophole.
Barlow and enough said about that but keeping unless I can luxury trade later.
Davis not playing and if not named next week will become McPherson.
Menadue and he will be traded when suitable rookie downgrade available.
Aiming to really climb up during byes
Bye Structures (Posting here now to keep abreast as byes are 6 weeks away and time to start some planning)
Rd 13: 21 playing - 13 keepers
Rd 14: 20 playing - 13 keepers
Rd 15: 19 playing - 9 keepers.
So basically will be looking at Non Rd 15 prems to bring in over the next few weeks if I need to upgrade.
Have you considered Buddy over Dusty?
Once Tigers can't make the finals mathematically I think he may loose his hunger a touch.
Check out my team if you get the chance.
Round 8 Update:
Rd 8 Score: 2154
Rd 8 Rank: 25899
Total Rank : 25999 up 4720
Lowest Rank: 70719 Rd 2
Trades for Week - Mills to Dusty Martin, McCarthy to Petracca
Rd 8 Team:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Simpson, Brown(Ess) , McDonald Tip, Byrne-Jones (M. Adams, Ruggles )
Mids: Dangerfield, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Selwood, Sam Mitchell, Libba, J Smith ( C Petracca, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Martin, DeGoey, Manadue , Kerridge , Papley (Wells, Barlow )
The Good Shaw, Simpson, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Libba, Priddis, Josh Smith, Goldstein, Martin, DeGoey (redeemed himself a little)
The Average/acceptable. Ablett, Kerridge. McDonald-Tipp, Bartel
The Bad Brown, DBJ, Sam Mitchell, Selwood, Gawn, Robbo, Papley, Menadue. Putting VC on Selwood and not taking Ruggles 59.
Really stumped for trades this week but will wait till teams announced but at the moment thinking:
Kerridge to McPherson or Brown to Brand.
then Papley to a prem or Brown to a Prem.
Comfortable with Menandues slow burn at the moment and expect Davis may get a recall this week. May change though if Wells, Barlow and Adams are all still out this week.
Everyone is jumping on Brand but wouldn't his JS be a bit of a worry especially with Spangher now back in VFL? How much cash do you have at the moment?
Its going to be an interesting week at the trade table. Team selections will be important. I'd probably look ahead to future rookie trades and ensure you don't get caught out in any lines. It might be worth upgrading a defender this week. Perhaps Brown to Docherty and Byrne-Jones to Brand? Playing Tippa at the back each week would be okay. It leaves your high scoring rookies like Kerridge still in play. Byrne-Jones has a high b/e and Brown can't be used on the field with any confidence and is ready to cull.
Thanks Piccollo - Something to consider - Really hoping that one of Wells or Barlow get up to have a playing emergency.
Its times like these you wish you could do 4 trades this week.
and Nicky Boy only 30k at the moment.
Current team structure (As I see it):
Backs: 3 keepers, 1 hopeful keeper (Adams), 4 rookies
Mids: 6 keepers, 1 hopeful keeper (Libba), 2 rookies, 2 deadweights
Rucks: 2 keepers, 1 deadweight
Fwds: 1 keeper, 4 hopeful keepers, 3 rookies
Somewhere between 4 and 11 upgrades needed. Which sounds harsh but those fwds are not 100% keepers just yet, maybe Robbo is.
On field lowest scorers assuming full team and using my under estimating opinion:
- Walla/DBJ (65)
- Kerridge (75)
Team to me looks light on in the fwd line as you are really relying on a score improvement from Robbo, De goey and Barlow. Those back rookies could hold fine for a little longer, especially as the most points can be gained in that fwd line by upgrading. Brown and Papley have achievable BEs, but I'm happy with Papley he's done his job and will be trading him myself. Brown vs St. Kilda I think will at the least hold value, and I agree with your points on Menadue and Davis.
Papley -> MacPherson would be my first trade option, netting $180k and moving Petracca to F6. I would consider holding the 2nd trade purely because you can't reach a Dahl or Zorko from trading Brown. If you don't see Kerridge passing about 75 though, then go Kerridge up to the fwd of your choice. Alternatively DBJ to a back premium (Docherty would be my first choice, low BE) is an option.
What I would do:
Papley -> MacPherson
Hold
*Note all this is pending team selections*
Sorry PB - also have Dusty as a forward had Barlow named twice so that may change your thinking a little.
Quote from: Ringo on May 16, 2016, 09:34:11 PM
Sorry PB - also have Dusty as a forward had Barlow named twice so that may change your thinking a little.
Nah I saw that, all good :) Barlow, Wells, De Goey, Robbo the ones I have down as hopefuls. Just doing it that way so the worst case scenario can be seen along with the best :)
So these are the trade options as I see them:
Have some options I am considering:
1) Byrne-Jones to Brand and Brown to Docherty
2) Byrne Jones - Brand and Papley to Franklin
3) Kerridge to MacPherson and either DBJ/Brown to Docherty or Papley to Franklin.
4) Papley to MacPherson and DBJ to Docherty
5) Just one downgrade Papley to McPherson
or Double downgrades
6) Papley to Crocker and DBJ/Brown to Brand
7) Papley to Crocker and Davis to MacPherson.
and if Barlow not named thinking of a sideways trade of him to Zorko both with 15 round byes so bye structure not effected,
And PB have exactly the same ratings as you have given me.
Thursday night teams will decide and will have to make decision then including Captain as I may be going bush for the weekend and will be out of internet coverage.
So with the carnage am going these trades:
Papley to Brand and Adams to Docherty leaving this team
(https://i.gyazo.com/f96845cfb6ddfa20fb80a64bd1a7e015.png)
best I could do with no emergencies forward. barlow a late inclusion would help.
No thought of trading Barlow or Wells?
Can u afford Barlow and Paps to Doch n a fwd premo?
Had a look at that Geoff and was a little bit short of cash for Pap to Dochers and Barlow to Tags or Zorko. So will look at Barlow next week after a downgrade.
Quote from: Ringo on May 20, 2016, 12:36:49 PM
Had a look at that Geoff and was a little bit short of cash for Pap to Dochers and Barlow to Tags or Zorko. So will look at Barlow next week after a downgrade.
Bummer :-\
I have actually started barlow encase he is a late inclusion as he will outscore Menadue
Not a bad idea - Will switch Kerridge and Menadue and start Barlow on field with Menadue emergency. Davis will be mid emergency.
Quote from: Capper on May 20, 2016, 12:49:32 PM
I have actually started barlow encase he is a late inclusion as he will outscore Menadue
Yeah I've done the same
Wish it was that easy for me, unfortunately I have 3 outs up fwd. :'(
Round 9 Update:
Rd 9 Score: 2340 (My Highest for the year)
Rd 9 Rank: 10874
Total Rank : 18825 up 7174
Total Points: 19177
Lowest Rank: 70719 Rd 2
Trades for Week - Papley to Brand and Adams to Docherty
Rd 9 Starting Team:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Simpson, Docherty , McDonald Tip, Byrne-Jones (Brand, Ruggles )
Mids: Dangerfield, Pendles, Wells, Priddis, Selwood, Sam Mitchell, Libba, J Smith (Ablett, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Martin, DeGoey, M Brown, Kerridge , Petraca (Menadue, Barlow )
Wells in mids as C and to take Davi's score over Menadue.
The Good Shaw, Docherty, Simpson, McDonald Tipp, Pendles, Priddis, Goldy, Dusty, Petracca, Kerridge
The Average Bartel, Ruggles, Libba, J Smith, Davis, GeGoey, M Brown, Brand, Robbo
The Bad DBJ, Danger, Jelwood, Mitchell, Gawn, Menadue. The real bad not sticking with gut and leaving C on Shaw after Pendles 140. Not alone in that though.
What to do this week.
Will wait till I see who is named (Ablett, Wells, Barlow)
DBJ real issue with high B/e and Menadue the only other who may not get his B/e of 56,
Would like Hopper but hard to get him without losing DPP. So will need to decide later. Not really happy with Williams JS to go DBJ to Williams.
If Barlow does not play then thinking Barlow to Tippett - Happy to have Tippett sit at F6/F7.
With DBJ possibly out with injury may even hold.
With Barlow, Wells and Ablett all playing may hold on trading. Hopper a bit expensive and concerned on Williams JS. The 31 will roll out of DBY rolling average this week as well so he should start to make cash again and ok to sit till other options occur.
Quote from: Ringo on May 25, 2016, 05:49:56 PM
With Barlow, Wells and Ablett all playing may hold on trading. Hopper a bit expensive and concerned on Williams JS. The 31 will roll out of DBY rolling average this week as well so he should start to make cash again and ok to sit till other options occur.
Not a bad option, given the circumstances. If I could keep my finger off the trade button, i'd do the same!
What's ur cash??
U happy with Gawn? Be 240. Possible swap to. Nic Nat? Luxury trade but could pay off.
Other than that if all ur guys play no real need to trade.
How long are you holding on to Brown and walla??
Another option is trade Brown out, move Walla fwd and trade in Docherty
Got Docherty. Keeping an eye on all my rookies for next week.
Think Gawn will be bounce back surely his early form were not flash in the pan stuff. Giving him another week or two to see if he turns around then the trade to Nic Nat may be considered.
B/e Walla 45 averaging 75 so no need just yet
DBJ B/e 105 averaging 75 (31 Rolls out of averages after this week and a 75 average still ok for a couple of weeks.)
Ruggles B/e 30 avering 50 still cash to make
Brand B/E 0 averaging 46 still cash to make
Kerridge B/E 57 averaging 85 so still cash to be made.
Josh Smith B/e 3 Average 73 so still a fair bit of cash to make
Davis B/e 19 Average 51 so still small amount of cash to make.
Menadue B/E 56 Average 50 ( Possibly keeping him as he is scoring around average and B/e so will not fluctuate and handy DPP for byes.
M Brown B/e 75 Av 62 Up and down but think can still make cash.
C Petracca do i need to elaborate here with a current B/e of -19
DeGoey and Libba are also possibly to be upgraded if enough trades left so treading warily at the moment.
Round 10 Update:
Rd 10 Score: 22230
Rd 9 Rank: 9559
Total Rank : 14849 up 3976
Total Points: 21407
Lowest Rank: 70719 Rd 2
Trades for Week - DBJ to Cox >:( Rookie mistake lost concentration and realised could not reverse trades after first game so stuck with it. May pay off though if Goldy does miss this week.
Bank; $113k 17 trades.
Rd 10 Starting Team:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Simpson, Docherty , McDonald Tip, Ruggles (Brand, M. Brown, )
Mids: Dangerfield, Pendles, Wells, Priddis, Selwood, Sam Mitchell, Libba, Ablett (J Smith, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Robinson, Martin, DeGoey, Barlow, Kerridge , Petraca (Menadue, Cox )
(Was going to loophole Ruggles and Brown and Ruggles a ate out put paid to that).
The Good: Docherty, McDonaldTip, Bartel. Ablett, Dangerfield, Gawn, Dunkley, Davis, Dusty, Wells
The Average Pendles, Priddis, Libba, Josh Smith, Goldy, Robbo,
The Bad Shaw, Simpson, Brown, Selwood, Sam Mitchell, Kerridge, DeGoey, Petracca, Cox
This week what to do do I get in a prem defender or prem fwd. Think for structure need a prem defender so thinking Menadue or Kerridge (Wells returning to forwards) to Mattho and Brown to McVeigh. Not really excited by Paine and JS. May change based on team announcements.
So just have the 1 rookie playing in def, mids and fwds. So maximum of 6 trades to sort out leaving 10 trades to adjust the underperformers so reasonably happy. But that is before the Supercoach reaper gets into action on Thursday.
i reckon a premo forward. looks a bit bleak with de goey and barlow
Thoughts on this trade
Kerridge and Barlow to McVeigh and Dahlhaus. Suits bye structure
leaves me with 22k
Means I miss Mattho and a cash build but will have only 3 playing rookies. Hopefully some more rookies surface over the next couple of weeks.
Def McDonald Tip with Rugglesand Brand on bench
Mids: One of Smith, Dunkley or Davis with Menadue on bench with other 2
Fwds: Petracca with Brown and Cox warming bench
Team will be:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Simpson, Docherty, McVeigh, McDonald Tip, (Ruggles Brand, )
Mids: Dangerfield, Pendles, Ablett Priddis, Selwood, Sam Mitchell, Libba, J Smith (Menadue, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Dahlhaus, Robinson, Martin, Wells, DeGoey, Petraca (M. Brown,Cox )
DeGoey and Sam Mitchell the premium worry but still scoring 80+ can hold and then upgrade. Menadue being held to allow flexibility with byes with DPP.
Brown will be downgraded next week to Collins if named.
Dahlhaus with a BE of 123, i think he can go done further.
Is Menadue there purely for DPP between mids and fwds?
If you do those trades where doe the money come from to upgrade the last 3 spots?
If Barlow continues to play, trading him is probably a luxury you can't afford as yet.
If I were in your position (not 100% sure about byes) but i'd certainly be trading out DeGoey before Kerridge. He's worth more, and scoring less! High BE as well, experiment can be ditched and a negative POD is removed.
Only way I can see you getting Mathieson (best cash option) is to lose the mid-fwd DPP link, probably not worth it.
For me:
Brown --> Collins/Tucker (+170kish)
DeGoey --> Dahlhaus (-128kish)
Leaves 113+42 = 155k for next week
what about DeGoey out, Wells to fwd line and Gray into mids?
Your defence is solid Ringo. Obviously Ruggles at d6 isnt ideal but it makes for better reading than your fwd line. My vote is to upgrade there.
Keep Barlow for now. If he plays he should go ok.
Brown out for a rookie will net some good cash.
Menadue to premo would be good if you could manage it but short of that, Dahl for deGoey?
Round 11 Update:
Round 11 Score: 2389
Round 11 Ranking: 1733
Overall Ranking: 8943 up 5906
Overall Points 23796
Lowest Rank: 70719 Rd 2
No trades done for Rd 11 17 trades left with $113k cash.
Have to revise goal as after disastrous start set a target of getting back into Top 10k which seemed reasonable at the time. Now that that is achieved new goal Top 1k
Rd 11 Starting Team:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Simpson, Docherty , McDonald Tip, M. Brown (Brand, Ruggles)
Mids: Dangerfield, Pendles, Priddis, Selwood, Sam Mitchell, Libba, Ablett, J Smith (Menadue , Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Cox )
Fwds: Robinson, Martin, Barlow, Kerridge , Wells, Petraca (DeGoey, Read)
What to do next:
Obviously Brown needs to go but need to wait so see if one of Ruggles or Brand is named. If not then Ruggles to Collins and Brown to Laird, McVeigh or Rance.
Options:
a) Ruggles to Collins, Brown to Laird. Mcveigh or Rance leaning towards McVeigh with his low B/E and capabale of high scores,
b) Brown to Collins - Cox to Tippett - Think Tippett is good enough at the moment for F6 and fixes my Cox mistake from last week.
c) Brown to Collins only and bank cash.
Option b my preferred but option 1 sound as well.
Bye Structure with option b being used: (15 trades left and $36k)
Round 13 - 20 but includes perma donut Read - 12 keepers
Round 14 - 23 including Read - 14 keepers
Round 15 - 17 - 9 keepers
Will sort Round 15 over next couple of weeks.
Note: Could go Lycett rather than Tippett and save 45k Tippett averages 95.1compared to Lycetts 92.5 so not much lost. May even go that way but still undecided.
nice score ringo. team coming together nicely
Cox suits your bye structure so why not keep him?
With the byes approaching, id be looking to offload rookies who hurt your structure, have questionable JS or dont particularly score well.
Ruggles isnt going to make much more money and his scoring is limited and he might be dropped. Think him for collins should happen.
not keen on rocky or gray to boost scoring output?
I have also been thinking about Tippett but i know he wont play all 22 games this year and i have Buddy.
Are you getting Trengove next week?
@ Piccollo - Rocky has the round 15 bye which is a real issue for me as I already have 8 of my keepers with the Rd 15 bye. Keeping an eye on Gray though for an upgrade. If I have trades maybe Robbo for Rocky.
Final decision on trades will be made when teams announced as Walla may be rested and will have no cover if I do my preferred trade. If Walla rested will more than likely do the Ruggles down and Brown up.
@Capper Looking and trengove or Jansen next week. Maybe another double downgrade depending on B/E's of rookies still mooing. Have given up planning in advance as injuries and omissions have me changing weekly.
After Team Announcements looking at 2 options:
Brown is bleeding heaps of cash so best get rid of him now.
a) Brown to Collins, Brand to McVeigh leaves Ruggles to cover any late defender out
b) Brown to Collins, DeGoey to Rocky/Gray. The risk here is that there is no defence coverage for late outs with Brand and Walla on pine. Also lose the DPP to forwards. Could go Sam Mitchell instead of DeGoey but think Mitchell may come back strong. Famous last words.
Quote from: Ringo on June 10, 2016, 01:11:31 PM
After Team Announcements looking at 2 options:
Brown is bleeding heaps of cash so best get rid of him now.
a) Brown to Collins, Brand to McVeigh leaves Ruggles to cover any late defender out
b) Brown to Collins, DeGoey to Rocky/Gray. The risk here is that there is no defence coverage for late outs with Brand and Walla on pine. Also lose the DPP to forwards. Could go Sam Mitchell instead of DeGoey but think Mitchell may come back strong. Famous last words.
Sam Mitchell is out and not playing this week.
Option 1 is the better option IMO
Round 12 Update:
Round 12 Score:2510
Round 12 Ranking: 6315 (an indication of the big scores out there)
Overall Ranking: 6686 up 2257
Overall Points: 26306
Lowest Rank: 70719 Rd 2
Current Goal: Make the Top 1000 after shocking start
Rd 12 Trades:
Brand to Collins
Brown to McVeigh
Rd 12 Starting Team:
Def: Shaw, Bartel, Simpson, Docherty , McVeigh, Collins (Brand, Ruggles)
Mids: Dangerfield, Pendles, Priddis, Selwood, Menadue , Libba, Ablett, J Smith (Sam Mitchell, Dunkley, Davis)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Cox )
Fwds: Robinson, Martin, Barlow, Kerridge , Wells ,DeGoey (Petraca, Read)
Regretted not taking Danger as VC of Selwood but Selwood scored 141 so only a drop of 80. Stuffed the loophole by not checking a reversal of trade and the e on Read rather than Menadue meaning I had to move Menadue to mids and lose Petraccas score.
The Good Danger, Jelwood, Ablett, Bartel, Docherty, Wells, Dustin Martin, Liberatore, Barlow
The Average Shaw, Simpson, Priddis, Dunkley, Pendles, Davis. Gawn, Kerridge, Robbo, DeGoey
The Bad Collins, Josh Smith, Goldy
Trades for this week: (have 15 available at start).
Smith to Trengove set leaving me with $156k in bank
Will assess other trades if need be when teams announced. Currently have 19 playing but that could change with team announcements with Norths intimating they may rest players carrying injuries.
Rance/Laird and Lids/Montagna to come in next week after byes. may not do then either as B/es are high as well so maybe cheaper Rd 15,
nice score ringo. team is looking very good now
Updated:
Trades this week
Smith to Trengove
Menadue to Jansen
Cox to Sinclair
Leaves $183k in bank.
Reasoning behinds 3rd trade Cox is virtually maxed out and starting to lose some money. With Tippetts injury Sinclair will have strong JS has a B/e of 36. Will eventually sit at F7 as ruck coverage. Has averaged 82 over the last 3 weeks so could be sound and better scoring potential than Cox.
Assists with Round 15 bye dilema.
Round 13 update:
Round 13 Score: 2050
Round 12 Ranking: 1763
Overall Ranking: 3729 up 2957
Overall Points: 28356
Lowest Rank: 70719 Rd 2
Current Goal: Make the Top 1000 after shocking start
Trades:
Smith to Trengove
Menadue to Jansen
Cox to Sinclair
Put the VC on Selwood rather than Dangerfield but fortunately only cost 40+ points.
Sinclair experiment did not work.
Proposed trade for Rd 14
Libba to Jack Steven
Dunkley to Joyce (establishing a D/M Dpp)
Davis to Montagna
Leaving a Rd 14 Team on field:
Def: Shaw, Docherty, Bartel, Simpson, Ruggles, Collins ( Walla, McVeigh)
Mids: Danger, Jelwood, Pendles, Steven, Ablett, Sam Mitchell, Kerridge, Jansen (Joyce, Priddis, Trengove)
Rucks: Gawn Goldy (Read)
Fwds: Martin, Montagna, Wells, Robbo, Barlow, DeGoey (Sinclair, Petracca)
Next Week Petracca or Trengove to Phillips
Ruggles/Collins to Rance/Laird
Leaving a team of:
Def: Shaw, Docherty, Bartel, Simpson, McVeigh, Laird/Rance (Ruggles/Collins, Walla)
Mid: Danger, Jelwood, Pendles, Steven, Ablett, Mitchell, Priddis, Kerridge(Jansen, Joyce, Trengove/Phillips)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Martin, Montagna, Wells, Robbo, Barlow, Degoey (Sinclair, Petracca/Phillips)
7 trades with one upgrade required. Rocky or Neale for Kerridge will probably complete mids.
Redeeming my season after shocking start.
Edit If either Pendles or Wells are out have the option to bring Joyce on as well. 15 prems plus DeGoey, Wells and Kerridge playing.
Are you goin to upgrade DeGoey as well? Needs more Zorko! ;D
Will probably use one of my 7 trades for that (haha) but will assess. Robbo will do my Lions bias for the moment though.
Round 14 update:
Round 13 Score: 1973
Round 12 Ranking: 2597
Overall Ranking: 2094 up 1635
Overall Points: 30329
Lowest Rank: 70719 Rd 2
Current Goal: Make the Top 1000 after shocking start
Trades:
Petracca to Delidio
Dunkley to Phillips
Libba to Steven
Who would have thought that 3 of my lowest scores will be Robbo (concussion), Shaw and Bartel.
Round 14 Team:
(https://i.gyazo.com/e2e581cca17367b4e6c8dd6722190069.png)
What do I do this week with only 17 players available:
1) Downgrade Davis only as Collins. Ruggles, Jansen all have low B/e and cash still to make.
2) Downgrade Davis and Ruggles to Laird/Rance
3) Downgrade Davis and Robbo/Wells to Montagna.
Been killing it lately Ringo, keep it up mate.
I personally like Option 2, but it really depends on two things. First is, who to bring in for Davis, and second is, how long Robbo will be out for.
Just a question, how many trades do you have remaining?
Quote from: _wato on June 27, 2016, 10:46:38 AM
Been killing it lately Ringo, keep it up mate.
I personally like Option 2, but it really depends on two things. First is, who to bring in for Davis, and second is, how long Robbo will be out for.
Just a question, how many trades do you have remaining?
9 trades left before this week. Reckon I will use 4 to complete team leaving 5. And will be watching team selections on who to bring in for Davis as a last resort Joyce if named makes it. Opens up a DPP Link as well.
trying to work out who will miss more games Robbo or Wells.
Quote from: Ringo on June 27, 2016, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: _wato on June 27, 2016, 10:46:38 AM
Been killing it lately Ringo, keep it up mate.
I personally like Option 2, but it really depends on two things. First is, who to bring in for Davis, and second is, how long Robbo will be out for.
Just a question, how many trades do you have remaining?
9 trades left before this week. Reckon I will use 4 to complete team leaving 5. And will be watching team selections on who to bring in for Davis as a last resort Joyce if named makes it. Opens up a DPP Link as well.
trying to work out who will miss more games Robbo or Wells.
Which leaves you sitting fairly comfortably then for injury and luxury trades at the end of the year. Think Joyce holds his spot? I doubt it. But you probably won't need him to hold a spot and just need him to sit at M11 to ride out the year.
Obviously wait on Robbo but imo Wells, reason as to why I dropped him, yes he averages well but this is 3 games missed now, any sign of injury or tightness and he misses again, he is so integral to the lineup and they're gonna play finals so I think North would rather him play finals and miss out on the double chance than to ruin his body and lose him for the year altogether. He is so fragile and missed a lot of footy, we have to remember that. Maybe, they loosen his workload on ball and potentially play him up forward for longer to manage him, leading to a drop in performance output, but who knows. For me, the issue is his body not how he's playing. Your choice in the end mate.
Thanks Wato - Wells to Tags leaves me with 76K. Will wait and see what options I have for Davis.
With Barlow out for a few weeks will now go Barlow to Tags for one trade.
Tossing up whether to go Wells to Jroo as a pod - Good draw and averages well against teams still to play. Could go Zerrett but do not like his draw and will be buying at peak.
Other alternative is Davis to a rook and Ruggles to Rance but Ruggles has a low B/e.
Have 18 on field before 2nd trade so could risk.
Don't like JRoo at all Ringo
Merrett 10 scores above 97, 11 over 90, and only two under 90? Very consistent imo.
Only has Cats Crows Dogs that look tough. Saints Tigs Suns Lions Blues on top of that.
Expect a 105+ against Eagles, kid finds his own footy
Quote from: _wato on June 28, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
Don't like JRoo at all Ringo
Merrett 10 scores above 97, 11 over 90, and only two under 90? Very consistent imo.
Only has Cats Crows Dogs that look tough. Saints Tigs Suns Lions Blues on top of that.
Expect a 105+ against Eagles, kid finds his own footy
Im with Wato here, Ringo. Merrett scores no matter what. Roo suffers from key fwd syndrome.
With the trades you have, go for the jugular. Ruggles to Rance and Barlow to Merrett, wells to tags.
Still 50k short of Ruggles to Rance after doing Wells to Merrett and Barlow to Tags. Rance will come in next week
Will leave my post bye team as:
Def: Docherty, Simpson, Shaw, McVeigh, Bartel, McDonald Tip (Ruggles, Collins
Mids: Danger, Ablett, Pendles, Steven, Priddis, Sam Mitchell, Selwood, Kerridge (Davis, Trengove, Jansen)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawm (Read)
Fwds: Martin, Zerrett, Montagna, Deledio, Robbo, Sinclair (De Goey, Phillips)
Kerridge to be upgraded to Sloane or similar, A defender to Rance and DeGoey to Zorko maybe to comnplete team with 3/4 trades still left.
Have traded Davis to Joyce as well so now have $300k and 6 trades.
Next week all being well McDonald Tip to Rance/Laird and Kerridge to Sloane leaving the 4 trades for the finals etc.
Round 15 update:
Round 15 Score: 1574 >:( >:(
Round 12 Ranking: 60580
Overall Ranking: 3554 down 1460
Overall Points: 31903
Lowest Rank: 70719 Rd 2
Current Goal: Make the Top 1000 after shocking start
Trades:
Davis to Joyce
Wells to Merrett
Barlow to Montagna
6 trades left and $298k
Team after Rd 15 putting bye players back on field:
Def: Docherty, Simpson, Shaw, McVeigh, Bartel, McDonald Tip (Ruggles, Collins
Mids: Danger, Ablett, Pendles, Steven, Priddis, Sam Mitchell, Selwood, Kerridge (Joyce, Trengove, Jansen)
Rucks: Goldy, Gawn (Read)
Fwds: Martin, Zerrett, Montagna, Deledio, Robbo, Sinclair (De Goey, Phillips)
With going overseas and being in air on Friday night have to nail trades early this week
McDonald Tipp to go but who out of Rance, Johannisen and Laird
for 2nd Trade do I bring in Sloane, Hanners or Neale for Kerridge or Hall for deGoey.
Thanks for the advice.
I think Lairdy is the go in defence. Hitting his straps. But any of them really. Maybe JJ for POD?
Neale or hanners for Kerridge. Sloaney is a gun but his disp. Eff. Has made him a little inconsistent.
Team looking good mate.
I agree with PICCOLLO above Ringo. Laird seems the go in defense.
Adelaide have an excellent draw and I can see Sloane going easily 110+ for the remainder of the h+a season.
Settled on McDonald Tipp to Laird and Kerridge to Sloane.
Just leaves me to sort out F6 with 4 trades left.
Quote from: Ringo on July 08, 2016, 09:04:34 AM
Settled on McDonald Tipp to Laird and Kerridge to Sloane.
Just leaves me to sort out F6 with 4 trades left.
Nice to see someone has held out for Big Trav mate ;)