AXVs: Official Trades

[Colliwobblers]

Welcome to the 2013 Pre-Season Trade Thread. Please note the special rules that relate to the 2013 PRE-SEASON Only!

CHAT CLIENT TO USE FOR FF MEMBERS DURING TRADE WINDOWS TO DISCUSS TRADES:  http://www.ffelitechat.webs.com/

* If you need any info or help getting onto the chat ask almost any coach on FF will be able to walk you through it very simple.


TRADING

There will be two trade periods in each season.

Post Season.

AN AGREED TIME AFTER COMPLETION OF THE SEASON BEFORE THE NATIONAL DRAFT OF THE FOLLOWING SEASON

2 Week window to trade players, draft picks. Subject to extension on application by majority of teams.

MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LIST CHANGES = 4

A team must trade the same number of players in and out i.e 1 for 1 , 2 for 2.... ect. ect...

A team may trade a player and a draft pick swap for a player and a draft pick swap

( e.g Boyd and pick 14 for Swallow and pick 2)

Pre Season.

AN AGREED TIME AFTER THE PRESEASON/ROOKIE DRAFT PRIOR TO THE START OF THE SEASON

2 Week window to trade players only.

MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LIST CHANGES = 4

A team must trade the same number of players in and out i.e 1 for 1 , 2 for 2.... ect. ect...

*IMPORTANT NOTES ON LIST MANAGEMENTS DURING TRADES ( TRADE WINDOW #2 AND ALL FUTURE SEASONS)*

* You may trade a rookie listed player for another teams senior listed player, or visa versa. BUT

- The player you trade in MUST go onto the same list that the player you traded out was on (senior or rookie)

TRADE BLOCKING / APPROVAL: 

ALL TRADES ARE TO BE SUBMITTED TO LEAGUE ADMINISTRATOR FOR APPROVAL.

All trades agreed upon are to be PM'ed to League administrator (Colliwobblers) by BOTH parties, for approval.

Trades approved will be posted below in Trades Approved and reflected in Draft Thread under final list lodgment.

All draft picks traded will be reflected in the updated draft picks post below as well as on the Trades Thread.

[Colliwobblers]

PROPOSED AND APPROVED TRADES LISTING - TRADE PERIOD #1

*TRADE # 1

Sri Lanken Strikers gives: Rockliff, Golby + National Draft pick # 51

PNG Headhunters gives: Gaff, Howe + National Draft pick # 21

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Balanced trade in scoring, potential and age, further balanced (Rockliff) by the pick trade.

*TRADE # 2

Mongollian Lambs give: Luke Shuey + Trent Mckenzie

Austalian Ales give: Steele Sidebottom + National Draft pick # 36

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Balanced trade in scoring, player potential vs draft pick player potential. Trade slightly favors the Ales, but not enough to block and given the talent in this Nat Draft it should balance out.

*TRADE # 3

Hong Kong Dongs give: National draft pick # 16

Tibetan Llamas give: James Kelly

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade is balanced James Kelly was a pick 17. James Kelly is already premium and a premium scorer right now, Pick # 16 should become a premium and remain a premium scorer for a lot longer, BUT won't be for a few years yet. The trade is balanced, but was sent back to the coaches based on their lists for further evidence to be provided to me that their lists could support such a trade. Nails was able to show he has talent enough (if just) coming through) and Tbagrocks was able to show he can still field a competitive midfield (if just).

*TRADE # 4

Bangladesh Bears give: Dyson Heppell + Jasper Pittard + NAT pick 2 & 50.

Tibetan Llamas give: Paul Duffield + Dustin Martin + NAT pick 23 & 39.

VERDICT: APPROVED.

The trade is balanced, Heppell is equal in age and ability to Martin but Martin will outscore Heppell a little here duel to goal kicking points. Pittard has a big future anywhere as an attacking defender and a high draft pick himself. His youth and potential rate him as a better prospect long term than Duffield who is much, much older. But Duffield is close to premium defender so a worthy trade for Pittard. To further balance the trade A much higher Pick is given up to the side giving up Martin and Duffield - which is appropriate and acts as the final balance.

*TRADE # 5

Eskimos give: Priddis, Hartlett and Rookie pick Round 5
Lambs Give: Rhys Palmer, Talyor Hunt, NAT draft pick 6

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade favors the Eskinos slightly but that is just an opinion and it is not EXTREMELY uneven and does not provide a HUGE advantage. Pick 6 is a strong balance for Hartlett, Priddis and a nothing rook pick almost equal to Palmer and Hunt.

*TRADE # 6

Sri Lankan Strikers Give: National draft picks 21 and 35 + Luke Brown

Tibetan Llamas Give:  Pearce Hanley and NAT picks 50 & 55

VERDICT: DENIED.

Trade denied on list and even issues, was not resubmitted for approval. Trade Canceled.

*TRADE # 7

Headhunters give: Dale Thomas & Luke Parker + National Pick# 37

Vipers give: Alex Fasolo & Jack Trengove + National Pick# 46

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade is deemed to be even.

*TRADE # 8

Folders give: NAT draft pick 11

Tigers give: Nathan Foley

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Similar to the previous trade of Kelly and 16, 11 is better than 16, Foley has 2-3 years more in him than Kelly.
Again trade is not EXTREME UNEVEN, and does not give either team a HUGE advantage over other teams.

*TRADE # 9

Tigers give: Mark LeCras + NAT pick 26

Crocodiles give: Jack Ziebell + Rookie pick 12

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade is deemed to be even.

*TRADE # 10

Llamas

give:  Brad Ebert, Heppell, Nat picks 50, 55, Rookie round 1(7) round 2 (23)

Recieve: Wingard, Trengove, Nat pick 5, 31, 33 Rookie, round 1 (5)

Eskimos

give: Wingard, Nat picks 6, 31

Recieve: Brad Ebert, Nat pick 55, Rookie round 1 (7)

Elephants

give: Nat picks 17, 33

Recieve: Nat 6, Rookie round 2 (23)

Headhunters

give: Jack Trengove, Nat pick 5, Rookie round 1 (5)

Recieve: Heppell, Nat pick 17, 50

VERDICT: APPROVED.

For the complexity of it it is surprisingly even all round, certainly not EXTREME uneven nor does it give any one team a HUGE advantage over the other teams in the competition.

*TRADE # 11

Eskimos give: Tory Dickson, NAT pick 47, PSD pick 7
Dolphins give: Daniel Merrett, NAT pick 45, PSD pick 13

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade is deemed to be even.

*TRADE # 12

UAE TIGERS give: S Wright + Nat Pick #58

TAIWAN DOLPHINS give: X Ellis + Nat Pick #47

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.

*TRADE # 13

UAE Tigers give: Issac Smith + Pick 10 (ND)

Vipers give: Jack Steven + Pick 37 (ND)

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.

*TRADE # 14

Bangladesh Bears gives: Chris Knights + NAT Pick 18

UAE Tigers gives: NAT Pick 42 + NAT Pick 11

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.

*TRADE # 15

Auatralia Ales Give: Steve Johnson, pick 20 and pick 52

Vietnam Vipers Give: Monfries, pick 14 and pick 30

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.

*TRADE # 16

Hong Kong gives: Scott D. Thompson + Nat Draft Pick 48

Sri Lanka gives: Scotland + Rookie pick 19

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade is deemed to be even enough to warrant no further explanation.

*TRADE # 17

Llamas to give: Nat pick 5, rookie pick 71

the Ales give: Nat picks 14, 30

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade is deemed to be even.

*TRADE # 18

Bangladesh Bears give: Corey Enright + NAT Pick #11

Taiwan Dolphins give: Beau Waters + NAT Pick #58

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade deemed to be even.

*TRADE # 19

Strikers (Jayman) Gives: NAT pick 35 + NAT Pick 48 + Rook pick 35

Eskimos (Koop) gives: Rhys Palmer + NAT Pick 45 + Rook Pick 15

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade deemed to be even.

*TRADE # 20

Taiwan Dolphins Give: National Pick # 13 + Rookie Pick # 29

Australian Ales Give: Matt Rosa + Rookie Pick #4

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade deemed to be even.

*TRADE # 21

Kathmandu Recieve: Shannon Byrnes and NAT pick 56

Bangkok Receive: NAT picks 35 and 48

VERDICT: APPROVED.

Trade deemed to be even.

*TRADE # 22

TIGERS - JROO8 gives: Picks Nat 47 + Rookie 42 + Rookie 58

LAMBS - Picker_Man gives: Picks Nat 22 + Rookie 6 + Rookie 86

VERDICT: APPROVED.   ( WITH TRADE IN WINDOW #2 TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION )

*TRADE # 23

Bangkok Crabs - Nostradamus gives: Adam Goodes and Dean Cox and Rook pick 88

Turkish Gazelles - Noz gives: Dion Prestia, Jonathan Griffin and Nat pick 41

VERDICT: APPROVED

*TRADE # 24

Jroo gives 26nd, 26rook, 102rook

Koop gives 15nd, 13rook, 47 rook

VERDICT: APPROVED ( WITH TRADE IN WINDOW #2 TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION )

*TRADE # 25

Jroo8 gives Picks 37ND, 100R (compo pick), 101R (compo pick)

Maca gives  Picks 12ND, 26ND, 44ND

VERDICT: APPROVED ( WITH TRADE IN WINDOW #2 TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION )

*TRADE # 26

Jroo8 gives Rookie 47

BB67 gives Pick 27Nd

VERDICT: APPROVED ( WITH TRADE IN WINDOW #2 TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION )

REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS

Whatlez = 4
Adamant = 0
Jayman = 0
JbsHawks = 0
Monstrom = 0
Picker_man = 0
Tbagrocks = 0
Nostradamus = 1
Noz = 2
JROO8 = 0
BB67TH = 3
Maca24 = 3
Tor01doc = 0
Colliwobblers = 0
KoopKicka = 0
Nails = 2

[Colliwobblers]

UPDATED DRAFT PICKS NATIONAL & ROOKIE/PRE-SEASON POST TRADE PERIOD #1

DRAFTS COMPLETED REFER DRAFT THREAD FOR FINAL PICK LIST AND PICKS

[Colliwobblers]

UPDATED LIST LODGMENT POST TRADE PERIOD # 2

FINAL LISTS HERE: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,70532.0.html

[Colliwobblers]

PROPOSED AND APPROVED TRADES LISTING - TRADE PERIOD #2

I will post trades here for people who have come to an agreement to make a trade, but are not making that trade until trade window #2.

These trades are not made yet, they are not approved, and cannot be reflected on team lists. They are nothing more than a gentleman's agreement on a future trade already negotiated and agreed to between the trading teams.

I can give an indication if trades should pass or not but there are no guarantees and nothing is passed until window #2 opens and APPROVED goes underneath the trades.

TRADES IN BOLD ARE ENTERED AND PLAYERS ARE CHANGED ON PLAYER LISTS (THIS THREAD ONLY) AND LIST MOVEMENTS UPDATED.

TRADE # 1.

Picker_Man Gives:  Carrazzo + Burgoyne

Monstrom Gives:  Golby + Varcoe

TRADE # 2.

SRILANKA STRIKERS give: Grigg + Burgoyne

MONGOLIAN LAMBS give: Suckling + Grundy

APPROVED


TRADE # 3.

TIGERS - JROO8 gives: Andrew Carrazzo + Ryan O'Keefe

LAMBS - Picker_Man gives: Shaun Higgins + Hamish Hartlett

APPROVED


TRADE # 4.

Jroo gives Dempster

Koop gives Merrett

APPROVED


TRADE # 5.

Jroo8 gives Dylan Grimes

Maca gives Luke Tapscott

APPROVED


TRADE # 6.

Strikers give: Brodie Grundy + Steven May

Crocodiles give: Shannon Hurn + Levi Casboult

APPROVED


TRADE # 7.

Jroo8 gives Daniel Merrett

BB67 gives Caolan Mooney

APPROVED


TRADE # 8.

Jayman gives: Mitch Clark

Pickers gives: Shaun Grigg

APPROVED


TRADE # 9.

JROO8 gives Xavier Ellis

Noz gives Cameron Pedersen

APPROVED


TRADE # 11.

Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Shane Savage + Mason Shaw + Luke Hodge

Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) gives: Sharrod Wellingham + Trent Dennis-Lane + Alipate Carlile

APPROVED


TRADE # 12.

MONGOLIAN LAMBS (picker_man & Toga) give: M.Golby + A.Otten + B.Murdoch

TIBETAN LLAMAS (tbagrocks) give: P.Hanley + S.Darley + A.Boston

APPROVED


TRADE # 13.

PNG Headhunters (Monstrum) gives: Chris Mayne and Alex Fasolo

Lao Elephants (Whatlez) gives: David Swallow and Jeff Garlett

APPROVED


TRADE # 14.

Picker_Man Gives - S.Selwood + C.Moller

Whatlez Gives - J.Riewoldt + B.Stratton

APPROVED


TRADE # 15.

Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Michael Johnson + Brent Reilly

Manila Folders (BB67th) gives: Jordan Lewis + Ryan Crowley

APPROVED


TRADE # 16.

Manila Folders (BB67th) give: Daniel Nicholson

Lao Elephants (Whatlez) give: Chris Mayne

APPROVED


TRADE # 17.

UAE Tigers (JROO8) gives Jack Steven + Jake Stringer + Luke Tapscott

Bangcock Crabs (Nostradamus) gives Brent Stanton + Chirs Yarran + Dustin Fletcher

APPROVED


TRADE # 18.

Nostradamus gives  Jarrod Harbrow

JROO8 gives  Jesse Lonergan

APPROVED


TRADE # 19.

Sri Lanka Strikers (Jayman) give: Shaun Grigg, Jeremy Howe, Shannon Hurn
Mongolia Lambs give (Toga) : Steele Sidebottom, Mitch Clarke, Sam Darley

APPROVED


TRADE # 20.

Sri Lanka Strikers (Jayman) give: Andrew Gaff and Luke Brown
Tibet Llamas (Tbagrocks) give: Mitch Golby and Hamish Mcintosh

APPROVED


TRADE # 21.

Vipers Give: Dale Thomas + Johnathon Ceglar

Strikers Give: Hamish Mcintosh + Rhys Palmer

APPROVED


TRADE # 22.

Colliwobblers Gives: Jimmy Bartel + Kaiden Brand

Nails Gives: Troy Chaplin + Patrick Karnezis

APPROVED


TRADE # 23.

TOGA (Mongolian Lambs) gives: Travis Varcoe

TOR01DOC (Taiwan Dolphins) gives: Luke Hodge

APPROVED


TRADE # 24.

JROO8 (UAE Tigers) gives Brent Stanton + Dustin Fletcher + Caloan Mooney

Nails (Hong Kong Dongs) gives Clancee Pearce + Ryan Griffen + Sam Blease

APPROVED


TRADE # 25.

JROO8 gives Stephen Hill + Sam Blease

Colliwobblers give Issac Smith + Liam Jones

APPROVED


TRADE # 26.

JROO8 gives Cameron Pedersen + Liam Jones

KoopKicka gives Sean Dempster + Allen Christensen

APPROVED


TRADE # 27.

JROO8 (Tigers) give Dennis Amrfield

Toga (Lambs) give Luke Hodge

APPROVED


TRADE # 28.

Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: David Mundy + Sharrod Wellingham

Turkey Gazelles (Noz) gives: Matthew Boyd + Ryan Lester

APPROVED


TRADE # 29.

KoopKicka Gives Chris Masten + Jarryd Blair

JBsHawks Gives Stephen Motlop + Kieran Harper

APPROVED


TRADE # 30.

Bangladesh Bears (Adamant) gives: Jordan Lewis + Jared Brennan + Ryan Lester

Taiwan Dolphins (tor01doc) gives: Andrew Walker + Greg Broughton + Mason Shaw

APPROVED


TRADE # 31.

Lambs (Toga) give: J.Schulz + J.Polec + A.Boston

Eskimos (KoopKicka & Memph) give: B.Lake + N.Bock + T.Hunt

APPROVED


TRADE # 32.

Lambs (Toga) give: Ben Stratton

Elephants (whatlez) give: Craig Moller

APPROVED


TRADE # 33.

Nails Gives: Ben Howlett + Caolon Mooney

KK Gives: Jay Schulz + Shannon Byrnes

APPROVED


TRADE # 34.

JROO8 gives Matt Wright + Luke Hodge

JROO8 gets Mitch Robinson + Stephen Hill

Colliwobblers gives Mitch Robinson + Stephen Hill

Colliwobblers gets Matt Wright + Hayden Crozier

Tbagrocks gives Hayden Crozier

Tbagrocks gets Lachie Neale

JBsHawks gives Lachie Neale

JbsHawks gets Luke Hodge

APPROVED


TRADE # 35.

Colliwobblers Gives: S.Thompson + S.Johnson + H.Crozier

Picker_Man/Toga Gives : S.Grigg + S.Hurn + J.Howe

APPROVED


TRADE # 36.

The Crabs (nost) give  Tendai Mzungu + Lewis Stevenson

The Eskimos (koop) give  Jared Polec + Steven Motlop

APPROVED


TRADE # 37.

JROO8 gives Mitch Robinson

Adamant gives Dusty Martin

APPROVED


TRADE # 38.

Ricochet gives Mark LeCras

Colliwobblers gives Luke Parker

APPROVED


TRADE # 39.

Koop Gives: Pendles + Dahlhaus + Cripps

Rico Gives: Cotchin + Lew.Jetta + May

APPROVED


TRADE # 40.

Crocs Give: Eddie Betts

Dolphins Give: Shane Savage

APPROVED


REMAINING LIST MOVEMENTS

Whatlez = 1
Adamant = 0
Jayman = 0
JbsHawks = 3
Monstrom = 2
Picker_Man/Toga = 0
Tbagrocks = 1
Nostradamus = 0
Noz = 3
JROO8 = 0
BB67TH = 2
Maca24/Sid = 3
Tor01doc = 0
Colliwobblers = 0
KoopKicka = 0
Nails = 1

[Colliwobblers]

UPDATED LIST LODGMENT POST TRADE PERIOD #2

[Colliwobblers]

***UPDATE***

Provided the Initial draft is completed and there has been sufficient time for a minimum trade window of 2 weeks the folling will/must apply;

PRE NATIONAL AXVs DRAFT = All clubs must submit to me their final lists (Senior Only at this stage, no plaers can be on Rookie lists.) The lists must reflect all trades. Clubs must also submit to me their draft picks as they stand after trading.

I will have both these things anyway but it is the DUTY of all CLUBS to do this and submit the lists of players and trades to me for cross checking BEFORE WE CAN START THE NEXT DRAFT.

National Draft for AXVs will take place 1 hour after completion of the AFL National Draft. [ 22nd November 2012 ]

Rookie/Pre-Season Draft for AXVs will take place 1 hour following completion of the AFL Rookie Draft. [ 11th December 2012 ]

A trade window of 4 weeks will be opened immediately following completion of the AXVs Rookie/Pre-season draft.

Following this trade period, ALL Clubs will have 4 weeks to submit to me their final list lodgements.

Final Lists will consist of ;

SENIOR LIST = 40 Players.

(36 Players from the Initial Draft and 4 Players from the National draft.)

ROOKIE LIST = 6 Players.

(1 player from the NATIONAL DRAFT and ALL 5 players from the Rookie/Pre-Season draft.)


* In the event you PASS during the National draft and only pick for example 3 players from this draft ( or if you have traded in players during trade period #1 for your National draft picks), then the following applies.

* The players you trade in for your National draft picks ( up to 4 maximum list movements ) Go on your senior list.

* The players you draft first in the rookie pre-season draft where your Senior list is not FULL go onto your senior list first. Then onto your Rookie list.

THE BASIC RULE OF MAKING UP THE LISTS FOR THIS SEASON ARE THIS: PLAYERS GO ONTO YOUR SENIOR LIST AS PER DRAFTED TO YOUR TEAM OR TRADED TO YOUR TEAM ORDER, SO THE FIRST 40 PLAYERS TO JOIN YOUR LIST GO ON YOUR SENIOR LIST, THE LAST 6 PLAYERS TO JOIN YOUR LIST GO ON YOUR ROOKIE LIST.

Any questions let me know, and remember these dates, as the normal drafting time limits will apply so if you are not around you will be skipped, and potentially sacked if you fail to show up at all or have someone representing your club show up to these drafts. Failing to take part in trade windows is regretable but is also fine, failing to lodge your list after the trade periods will have consequences however so again remember the dates!

[Colliwobblers]

ANNOUNCEMENTS

[monstrum]

Just gettin on to stay updated  ;)

[Justin Bieber]

I will post this now. IF you send me an offer and it contains a player over the age of 24, then you will be added to the hated list to the Elephants.

Trade smart and trade your youngun' ;)

On the Block:

Jack Redden ;)
Taylor Walker ;D

(lol jks)

[monstrum]

Whatlez: gun midfeilder jude bolton, for redden?

[Noz]

After a quality forward.

[Colliwobblers]

The trade limit rule for the pre-2013 season has been repealed and brought into line with all future seasons.

Please check the rules so you are familiar with what the changes mean.

4 list movements maximum in each window.

One window after initial draft and before national draft.

One window after rookie/preseason draft and before first game.

Draft picks for draft picks trades do not count as list movements.

Any trade that involves a player is a list movement, whether it is a player for a player or a player for a draft pick.

That is basically it. You can agree upon and sign an agreement with a rival team for a trade you want to do if you run out of list movements for trade window #1, but you can't actually make the trade until window #2 if you have already used 4 list movements in window #1.

The decision to keep the limit at 4 in each was made to keep this season in line with all future seasons. And was the chosen setup of coaches in the original vote.

[Colliwobblers]

* A note on trading strategies for those who would have liked to make all 8 list movements in window #1.

* You can agree on a trade of player for player if it does not involve a draft pick, have both parties agree to the trade and LODGE THE TRADE WITH ME. Thus the trade is a "promise" for trade window #2.

* This way any trades that can be put off as they don't involve draft picks can be agreed to for TRADE WINDOW #2, and not made in TRADE WINDOW #1, thus not using up list movements in the all important first window.

* Obviously all trades involving draft picks must be made in trade window #1. as all drafts are over before trade window #2 opens.

* Where you trade a player for a draft pick, or a player for a player that = 1 list movement.
*SO IF you are trying to balance out a trade instead of using a player from each team neither really wants as a balance use draft picks from each team as these will not add to your list movements.

For example instead of Ablett + Gumbleton  FOR Jack + Gunston - Make it Ablett + pick 60 for Jack + pick 2.

Just an example off the top of my head but you get the idea, that is one list movements instead of throwing other unwanted players into the trade for balance which would make it 2 list movements.

[Colliwobblers]

ALL COACHES THE AXVS 2012 TRADE WINDOW # 1. IS NOW OPEN.

This trade window will remain open up until midnight on the 11th of November 2012.

All trade proposals can be posted in this thread and agreed to in this thread for me to confirm or reject, or they can be PM to me by both parties.

If you are waiting on a ruling PM me in case I miss your trade in the thread.

Take note of the list of ALL TEAMS national and rookie/preseason draft picks above, and for your convenience all lists also listed above.

As I approve trades, I will update draft picks and players on lists in this thread immediately.

NOTE: I will NOT be updating lists on the draft thread, that is the lists as drafted.

Any questions let me know.