The new rule and it's affect on DPPs. Have I got this right ??

Sabretooth Tigers · February 20, 2012, 05:10:34 PM

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Do I have this right ?????
Let's see, I have Rockliffe in the midfield and he's unavaillable for the next three rounds. I have three DPPs in the forward line but none in the midfield. I've got a dud on the mid bench, so I transfer him out and bring one of my forward DPPs into the midfield. Let's say Fyfe is the forward DPP. Rocky comes back and I then have the choice of leaving Fyfe in the mid or using another forward DPP ( let's say Zorko ) to swap Fyfe back to the forward line. If this is correct then we don't have to have DPP doubles ( ie F/M x M/F ) to cover temporary injuries. Could be a handy rule if I've got it right, but still have DPP doubles where possible in my team. I just don't go to the same lengths to get them in, especially as this rule allows you to create your DPP double when you need it. Cheers.

jamesalex · February 20, 2012, 09:35:20 PM

This is from the SC website:

DUAL POSITION PLAYER TRADES - You'll now have more flexibility with how you trade, by being able to move dual position players within your team during the trading process - without having to have a 'matching' dual position player in the other position. For example, you may:
For example, you may:
a) elect to trade out a Forward who is not a dual position player.
b) If you have a Defender who is also a Forward, you may substitute them into the Forward spot left vacant by the player you elected to trade out.
c) You'll now have a vacant Defender spot on your team.
d) In effect, you are therefore trading out a Forward for trading in a Defender.

So in regards to your question you can trade Rockkliff out for a Forward (provided you already have a forward/mid DPP). DPP players would obviously still be handy for covering injuries or swapping within the team.

Ringo · February 20, 2012, 09:47:35 PM

You are correct with the Barlow situation - If you have a DPP in forwards you move to Barlows positrion and trade in another forward for Barlow.

This is SC explains the rules but the example they give is not real good with Gibbs not having DPP

"Many coaches jumped on board dual-position players (DPP) last season - that is, players who can be selected in more than one position and can be moved on the field during the week.

Next season the new trade screen will allow coaches to trade players for someone in a different position - providing you have a DPP player to cover them.

For example, if you want to trade out midfielder Scott Pendlebury (for some reason) until now you only had the option of swapping him for another midfielder.

Next year you can trade out Pendlebury from your midfield, switch a DPP player who can play in the midfield (say, def/mid Bryce Gibbs) into the middle, and trade in a defender - effectively swapping a midfielder for a defender.

This presents a whole new set of possibilities and opportunities for smart coaches."

So looking at it realistically from SC do I put Zorko as a DPP in mids and swap Fyfe to Mids leaving rockliffe on the bench for 2 weeks - no trade.
Or in trade room move rookie mid say Shiel for argument sake not scoring well - Move Fyfe to mids and then trade in another forward who you can afford. One Trade.
So the decision basically come down do I leave high scoring rook mids who do not have DPP and use trade room and trades or just sacrifice one for a DPP and no trades.

jamesalex · February 20, 2012, 09:56:49 PM

Quote from: Ringo on February 20, 2012, 09:47:35 PM
You are correct with the Barlow situation - If you have a DPP in forwards you move to Barlows positrion and trade in another forward for Barlow.

This is SC explains the rules but the example they give is not real good with Gibbs not having DPP

"Many coaches jumped on board dual-position players (DPP) last season - that is, players who can be selected in more than one position and can be moved on the field during the week.

Next season the new trade screen will allow coaches to trade players for someone in a different position - providing you have a DPP player to cover them.

For example, if you want to trade out midfielder Scott Pendlebury (for some reason) until now you only had the option of swapping him for another midfielder.

Next year you can trade out Pendlebury from your midfield, switch a DPP player who can play in the midfield (say, def/mid Bryce Gibbs) into the middle, and trade in a defender - effectively swapping a midfielder for a defender.

This presents a whole new set of possibilities and opportunities for smart coaches."

So looking at it realistically from SC do I put Zorko as a DPP in mids and swap Fyfe to Mids leaving rockliffe on the bench for 2 weeks - no trade.
Or in trade room move rookie mid say Shiel for argument sake not scoring well - Move Fyfe to mids and then trade in another forward who you can afford. One Trade.
So the decision basically come down do I leave high scoring rook mids who do not have DPP and use trade room and trades or just sacrifice one for a DPP and no trades.

Are you starting with any DPP links in the midfield yourself Ringo?

Ringo · February 20, 2012, 10:06:53 PM

Just deciding which one I think I will have one to save trades and then have the option of using trade room for the other if required. My decision will come down to who represents the best Midfield options Delidio or Goddard or Pav/Fyfe/Martin to use the link/ Leaning towards Pav/Fyfe/Martin with a variety of rookies with mid forward dpp to pick from Zorko, Horsely, Couch. Pfeiffer, Crozier, Devon Smith etc. Not a lot of Def Mid apart from Docherty/Brown/Golds/Allen.

So to answer your question will have 1 for flexibility and to save a couple of trades.

auscoyote · February 21, 2012, 04:40:56 AM

Yes you have it right.
If you haven't a DPP in both positions you will have to burn a trade to get use out of the DPP. But this still becomes very usefull when trading so my advice would be to lean towards DDP rooks if your undecided. E.g between hampton and cameron from gws go hampton. The more DPP's you have can only help you out further down the the track. I have one DPP rook in each line

Jay · February 21, 2012, 09:27:09 AM

Remeber you'd have to use a precious trade! Mpp will still be handy imo, being able to switch player by positions with no trades! Sure this new rule will be handy but dont rule out the fact of having mpp link because of it.

Who's with me???

Ziplock · February 21, 2012, 09:30:09 AM

not me. DPP will only be really necessary during the bye rounds, by then your mid rookies should have topped out, so you can trade them out and dpp in ;)

auscoyote · February 21, 2012, 09:52:30 AM

Yeah true, but Dpp's give you that extra flexibility when trading this year. In saying that though always go with scoring potential.

SonsOfZeus · March 20, 2012, 10:31:12 PM

you can trade out any mid (even if all 8 are all mid only for a forward/back if you can have a player move into that position)

eg ablett pendles swan murphu dal santo and hodge bench is swallow and boyd

goodes in fwd line....out ablett goodes to mids trade in a forward
if you have a dpp you can move them into mids without wasting an extra trade and trade in a forward / back