All Time Fantasy Draft: Eras

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Boomz

#165
November 09, 2011, 08:48:11 PM
Barrie Robran...  Again I don't need a fwd but how could I pass him up :-X

Barrie Robran was arguably South Australia's, some would say Australia's, greatest ever footballer.  The bare statistics fail to do him justice: three Magarey Medals and seven consecutive club fairest and most brilliant awards during a 201 game career which also saw him represent his state on 17 occasions.  Originally from Whyalla, Robran off the field was shy and unassuming; on it, he was an artist.  Victorian Mike Patterson who coached Robran for much of his league career observed that "Barrie can match (any Victorian) in any phase.  I've seen him do things that the best players over there have been unable to accomplish".
Robran's 'finest hour' arguably came during North Adelaide's 1972 club championship of Australia final against Carlton when he performed with such brilliance that, on more than one occasion, opposition player Alex Jesaulenko - himself no mean footballer - broke into spontaneous applause. 

In 1974, while captaining South Australia against the VFL at the SCG, he sustained a serious knee injury which, while not ending his career in a literal sense, effectively put paid to his genius, and meant that the sustained brilliance which had characterised his first eight seasons in League football would seldom be seen again.  In 2001 that brilliance was accorded belated recognition by the AFL when Robran became the first AFL Legend never to have played league football in the state of Victoria.

Seven times NAFC "Best and Fairest" 1967 (tied), 1968â€"1973
Captained NAFC League team through four seasons : 1974â€"1977
Member NAFC Premiership teams in 1971 and 1972 (Champions of Australia)
Represented SA 17 times: 1967â€"1974. Kicked 8 goals
Member of the SA team in National Carnivals in 1969 and 1972
Captained SA 1974
State Selector: 1984â€"1998
MBE 31 December 1981 "For services to Australian Football"
Australian Sports Medal "To commemorate Australian Sporting Achievement" in 2000
Magarey Medals for "Fairest and Most Brilliant" in SANFL in 1968, 1970 and 1973. (Runner up in 1967)
Inducted as a Member of the Australian Football Hall of Fame in May 1996
Elevated to "Legend" status (17th legend) in May 2001
Inducted as a Member of the SANFL Hall of Fame (Era:1961â€"1990) in August 2002
Selected in the NAFC Team of the Century in 2000
Awarded NAFC Player Life Membership in 1976
Awarded SANFL Player Life Membership in 1979

Feel bad not putting him as CHF but have someone else set for there so he'll go on flank.

FB: __________, Jack Regan, __________
HB: __________, Dan Moriarty, __________
C: Shine Hosking, Jack Clarke, __________
HF: Barrie Robran, _________, Bob Hank
FF: George Doig, Ken Farmer, __________
R: John Nicholls, Haydn Bunton Sr, Bob Rose

INT: Tom Leahy, Mark Tandy, __________, __________

AFEV

#166
November 10, 2011, 06:16:40 PM Last Edit: November 14, 2011, 03:50:56 PM by Sid
One of the most accurate kicks for goal ever seen, I can't pass up...


Peter Hudson

• Hawthorn Best and Fairest winner (1968, 1970)
• William Leitch Medal winner (1978, 1979)
• Hawthorn leading goalkicker (1967–1971, 1977)
• VFL/AFL Record of 150 goals in a season
• VFL/AFL Record - Goals per game average (5.59)
• World record 2,038 senior goals :o (At an average of 5.95)
• Dual Premiership player (Hawthorn, 1971 and Glenorchy, 1975)
• VFL leading goalkicker (1968, 1970, 1971)
• 100 goals in a season (1968, 1969, 1970, 1971)
• Victorian Representative (10 games)
• All Australian (1966, 1969)
• Tasmanian Football Hall of Fame Icon
• AFL Hall of Fame Legend
• Tasmanian Team of the Century (Full Forward)
• Hawthorn Team of the Century (Full Forward)

QuoteThe key to Hudson's success was an indefatigable desire to gain possession of the football, which he did repeatedly by virtue of his strength, vigorous, pacy leading, and excellent handling and marking skills.  Topping this off, he was a meticulously accurate kick for goal.

FB: Reg Hickey, _______, Tom Mackenzie
HB: Kevin Murray, Albert Collier, Jack Hamilton
C: Charlie Pannam, Lindsay Head, _______
HF: _______, Laurie Nash, _______
FF: _______, John Coleman, _______
FOLL: _______, Steve Marsh, Dick Reynolds

I/C: Harold Oliver, Peter Hudson, _______, _______

BratPack

#167
November 10, 2011, 10:11:36 PM

Okay double pick....Well first is easy





Alex Jesaulenko

Born in Salzburg, Austria, of Ukrainian parents, Alex Jesaulenko moved with his family to Australia at the age of three and a half.  As a youngster he displayed a prodigious talent for ball games, particularly soccer and rugby.  Then, aged fourteen, he was introduced to Australian football by a group of friends and, if the cliché can be forgiven, a legend was born. Jesaulenko commenced his senior football career with Eastlake and was a member of that club's 1964, '65 and '66 premiership sides.  However, even before he made his senior debut he had begun to attract the attention of clubs in the VFL.  At first, North Melbourne looked favourites to procure his signature, but in the end, thanks perhaps to some judicious string-pulling behind the scenes (though this has never been conclusively proved), Jesaulenko signed with Carlton, making his League debut as a twenty-one year old against Fitzroy in 1967.  Despite only managing a handful of possessions that day 'Jezza', as he was quickly dubbed by the adoring Carlton faithful, gave glimpses of the type of sublime, classy football which would become his trademark.
Equally adept either on the ground or in the air, Jesaulenko was a player opposing coaches found it almost impossible to stifle.  If beaten in one position he could simply transfer somewhere else and as likely as not merge as a match winner.  Possessed in abundance of all the major football skills, Jesaulenko supplemented his ability with tremendous intelligence and awareness, making him, if you like, a kind of 'Greg Williams with pace'.  In terms of pure footballing ability, few players in the history of the game have come close to matching him.
Early in his career Jesaulenko played chiefly on the forward lines, topping Carlton's goal kicking list on three successive occasions between 1969 and 1971.  Indeed, in 1970, when he spent a fair amount of time at full forward, he became the only Carlton player in history to 'top the ton'.
A premiership player in 1968, 1970 and 1972, Jesaulenko was personally responsible for one of the most memorable moments ever to occur in a VFL grand final when, in 1970, he used his opponent Graeme Jenkin as a proverbial step ladder in taking what some have termed 'the mark of the century' (shown above).
In 1978 Carlton appointed triple Brownlow Medallist Ian Stewart as coach but ill health forced the former St Kilda and Richmond champion to resign early in the season.  After a month or so in which Sergio Silvagni undertook the coaching role on a caretaker basis it was Jesaulenko to whom the club eventually turned, albeit not without a fair degree of hesitancy on the part of club president George Harris.  Indeed, it appears that Jezza himself was hesitant as well, for he initially refused the job.  However, within weeks of assuming the coaching mantle it seemed that Jesaulenko had been born to the role.  He steered the Blues to the finals in 1978, and a year later he took them to a memorable 5 point grand final win over arch rivals Collingwood.  A long career as Carlton coach seemingly beckoned, but when George Harris was surprisingly supplanted as club president Jesaulenko decided it was time for him to leave as well.
In 1980 Jesaulenko continued his VFL career with St Kilda, initially just as player, but after coach Mike Patterson was dismissed just two weeks into the season he took up the coaching reins as well.  Things were much tougher at Moorabbin, and in two seasons as playing coach and 1 in an off field role the side finished no higher than 10th.
In fifteen seasons of league football Alex Jesaulenko played 283 games (260 of them for Carlton).  He was an All Australian in 1969 and 1972, and a VFL representative on 15 occasions.  He won the Carlton club champion award in 1975.  Midway through the 1989 season he was surprisingly recalled to Princes Park to replace Robert Walls as Carlton's senior coach but in eighteen months at the helm he failed to steer the club to success. In 1993 he had a forgettable season coaching Coburg to a winless wooden spoon in the VFA.
Height/Weight 182cm / 86kg Playing career1
  Years Club Games (Goals) 1967â€"1979
1980â€"1981
Total Carlton
St Kilda 256 (424)
23 (20)
279 (444) Coaching career3 Years Club Games (Wâ€"Lâ€"D) 1978â€"1979
1980â€"1982
1989â€"1990
Total Carlton
St Kilda
Carlton 42 (35â€"7â€"0)
64 (13â€"49â€"2)
34 (18â€"15â€"1)
140 (66â€"71â€"3)
1 Playing statistics to end of 1981 season .
3 Coaching statistics correct as of 1990. Career highlights


And for pick two. Couple I could go for. But only one I could really grab here.





Kevin Bartlett

Often reviled by opposition supporters as 'hungry' owing to his alleged predisposition towards kicking for goal, regardless of the presence of unmarked team mates in better positions, whenever he was within range, the immensity of Kevin Bartlett's contribution to the Richmond Football Club over 403 VFL games in 19 seasons totally belied this assessment.  Quite simply, coaches like Tom Hafey, Tony Jewell and Francis Bourke would not have persisted in picking Bartlett if he was in any sense a liability to the side.
Combining fleetness of foot with evasion skills of the highest order, Bartlett was able to keep his wispy frame comparatively free of danger in the hurly burly cauldron of league football for a longer period of time than any of his predecessors.  Many times he was a marked man, with opposition sides setting out to stop him by any means possible, paying scant regard to the laws of the game in the process, but Bartlett almost invariably escaped unscathed.  As for the opposition sides, 'KB' would gleefully, almost impishly, provide them with plenty of reasons for bemoaning their failure to impede him, with the scale of the damage wrought invariably directly proportionate to the importance of the game.  Thus you will find the name of 'K.Bartlett' listed among the best players in the grand finals of 1967, 1969, 1972, 1973 (BOG), 1974, 1980 (Norm Smith Medallist) and 1982, while he also won a Winfield Medal as the best player in the 1974 Australian club championship series.  Perhaps the most persuasive testimony to his greatness, however, is that in what was almost incontrovertibly the greatest era in the history of the Richmond Football Club, Bartlett won the senior team's best and fairest award on no fewer than five occasions.  During the period from 1967 to 1982 the only other multiple winners of the award were Geoff Raines (3) and Royce Hart (2).
Given this, it remains surprising that Kevin Bartlett did not fare especially well in the Brownlow.  In 1974, he was one of the warmest favourites in recollection, but fell 5 votes short of winner Keith Greig, and 1 behind runner-up Gary Hardeman.  The consternation felt by Richmond officials was, to put it mildly, ill concealed.  Perhaps the fact that Bartlett was never the most elegant presence on a football field beguiled umpires into under-estimating his importance and effectiveness, and it is certainly the case that, if football games were scored on the basis of 'artistic merit', Kevin Bartlett would have contributed little.  In reality, however, football games are scored on the basis of goals and behinds, which directly accrue from attributes like courage (always first and foremost), determination, aggression, pace and skill - qualities with which Kevin Bartlett, for nigh on two decades, richly and distinctively adorned the game.

Height and weight 1.75 m / 71 kg
Playing career¹ Debut 1965, Richmond v.
St Kilda, at MCG Team(s) Richmond (1965â€"1983)
403 games, 778 goals
Coaching career¹ Team(s) Richmond (1988â€"1991)
88 games â€" 27 wins, 61 losses
¹ Statistics to end of 2005 season Career highlights

FB: __________, Peter Burns, __________
HB: __________, Tom Fitzmaurice, Walter Scott
C: Bill Hutchinson, ________ , Wilfred "Chicken" Smallhorn
HF: Graham Arthur, Alex Jesaulenko, George "Specka" Moloney
FF: William "Nipper" Truscott , __________, Jack Moriarty
R: Graham "Polly" Farmer, Kevin Bartlett, John D. Daly
INT: Merv McIntosh, __________, __________, __________

AFEV

#168
November 11, 2011, 01:35:31 AM Last Edit: November 13, 2011, 10:47:40 AM by Sid
There are really 5 players that stand out to me. All of which I'd happily take with this pick. But, in the end I can't pass up...

Royce Hart.


• 4 time Premiership player, twice as captain (1967, 1969, 1973-74)
• Dual Best and Fairest winner (1969, 1972)
• Richmond leading goalkicker (1967, 1961)
• All Australian (1969)
• 11 Victorian representative games
• Tasmanian Team of the Century
• AFL Team of the Century
• Richmond Team of the Century
• AFL Hall of Fame member
• Tasmanian Football Hall of Fame Icon

Few players have ever enjoyed debut seasons as successful as that of Royce Hart. In 1967, his first season on a FVL list, the 19 year old centre half forward did it all. He won the Richmond Best and Fairest, led their goalkicking, and was an integral part of the premiership team. He was a sensation. Bad knees robbed him of several years in his prime, but he'll still go down as one of the greatest players ever to play our game, and the best overhead mark ever seen.

I'll be hard pressed to choose between Hart, Hickey, Reynolds and Murray to lead the team, but it's a good problem to have really :P

FB: Reg Hickey, _______, Tom Mackenzie
HB: Kevin Murray, Albert Collier, Jack Hamilton
C: Charlie Pannam, Lindsay Head, _______
HF: _______, Royce Hart, _______
FF: Laurie Nash, John Coleman, _______
FOLL: _______, Steve Marsh, Dick Reynolds

I/C: Harold Oliver, Peter Hudson, _______, _______


Boomz

#169
November 11, 2011, 03:04:47 AM
I'll go with Francis Bourke. Brilliant wingman.

Richmond Captain: 1976â€"1977
Richmond Best and Fairest: 1970 (4 times runner-up)
Richmond Premiership Player: 1967, 1969, 1973, 1974, 1980
Interstate Games: 13
Victorian captain: 1977, 1980
AFL Team of the Century: 1996
Australian Football Hall of Fame: inducted 2002
AFL Life Member: 1981
Richmond Life Member: 1976
Richmond Team of the Century: 1998
Richmond Hall of Fame â€" inducted 2002
Richmond "Immortal" â€" conferred 2005
100 Tiger Treasures "Brave Act of the Century"

FB: __________, Jack Regan, __________
HB: __________, Dan Moriarty, __________
C: Shine Hosking, Jack Clarke, Francis Bourke
HF: Barrie Robran, _________, Bob Hank
FF: George Doig, Ken Farmer, __________
R: John Nicholls, Haydn Bunton Sr, Bob Rose

INT: Tom Leahy, Mark Tandy, __________, __________

DazBurg

#170
November 11, 2011, 08:24:35 AM
ok was a toss up between 2 i couldn't really decide
so i went for what my team "needs" to make a decision
so my next pick

Bruce Doull

Bruce Doull (born 11 September 1950 in Geelong, Victoria) is a former Australian rules football player who played for the Carlton Football Club.

Wearing guernsey number 11 and nicknamed the "Flying Doormat" due to the matted appearance of the constantly disarranged long portions of his extreme "comb over" hairstyle. He was recruited from Jacana at the age of 19 as a half-back flanker. Doull was a safe mark, a dependable kick and a footballer who rarely made a mistake[citation needed].

Doull, shy and extremely reserved[citation needed], did not give interviews and always preferred to stay in the background[citation needed]. He won Carlton's Best & Fairest in 1974, 1977, 1980 and 1984 and played in four Carlton premiership sides â€" 1972, 1979, 1981 and 1982, winning the Norm Smith Medal in 1981, and also played in the losing Grand Finals of 1973 and 1986. Doull was also a regular State of Origin representative. In 2009 The Australian nominated Doull as one of the 25 greatest footballers never to win a Brownlow Medal.[1]

He is often remembered as being harassed by Carlton scarf-wearing streaker Helen D'Amico in the 1982 Grand Final between Carlton and Richmond. This incident was the focus of a recent installment of the Toyota Memorable Moments advertisement, and is captured in Jamie Cooper's painting the Game That Made Australia, commissioned by the AFL in 2008 to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the sport[2]

Doull's trademark was his greying beard and the navy blue and white headband with which he kept his thinning long hair in place. Never reported by the umpires for foul play, he was noted for his determination to play the ball rather than the man[citation needed], rare in an era of occasionally brutal clashes[citation needed].

Only once did he appear to lose his temper. In a match against Essendon played late in his career, in 1983 a frustrated Cameron Clayton snatched off his ancient, faded headband and threw it into the crowd at Waverly Park. Incensed, the lumbering Doull went berserk and threw his opponent to the ground and had to be dragged away from the clash by his team mates. This incident was also recreated in his Toyota Memorable Moments advertisement, except that he remained his usual docile self when he was supposed to lose his temper. He also lost his temper after being hit in a night game against Hawthorn[citation needed].

By the end of his career, he had played 356 games, then a club record, and since surpassed only by Craig Bradley. Doull kicked just 22 goals over his 18-year career.

Playing career¹
Debut    5 March 1969, Carlton Blues v.
South Melbourne, at Melbourne Cricket Ground
Team(s)    

Carlton Blues 1969â€"1986

356 games, 22 goals
¹ Statistics to end of 1986 season
Career highlights

    All-Australian 1979
    Carlton Best and Fairest 1974, 1977, 1980, 1984
    Carlton premiership side 1972, 1979, 1981, 1982
    Carlton Team of The Century (Half-Back Flank)
    AFL Team of The Century (Half-Back Flank)
    Norm Smith Medal 1981




ossie85

#171
November 11, 2011, 08:36:35 AM
David Dench



David Dench (born August 23, 1951)] is a former Australian rules footballer in the (then) Victorian Football League. He played his whole career with North Melbourne Football Club at one of its most successful periods.

Dench played full-back. Dench won the North Melbourne club's best and fairest award, the Syd Barker Medal, on four occasions - 1971, 1976, 1977, 1981.] David Dench was one of the youngest captains appointed in the club's history. He also captained the 1977 premiership team, due to Keith Greig's absence because of an injury. In the 1977 VFL Grand Final, Ron Barassi moved him to the forward line, where he sparked North Melbourne Football Club's revival by contributing to the forward line and kicking goals, to draw with Collingwood Football Club.

275 games, 29 goals

North Melbourne premiership player 1975
North Melbourne premiership captain 1977
North Melbourne Team of the Century
Syd Barker Medal 1971, 1976, 1977, 1981
North Melbourne captain 1972


B: - David Dench -
HB: Jock McHale, Ron Clegg, Wels Eicke
C: Colin Watson - Jack Sheedy
HF: - Dick Lee -
F: Lou Richards, Bob Pratt, Des Fothergil
Foll: Roy Cazaly, Ron Barrasi jnr, Harry Collier
Inter: - - - -

Bit of trouble post career! I needed a fullback, and he fits in nicely.

AFEV

#172
November 11, 2011, 08:37:48 AM
There's still an absurd amount of talent left in the 60s :-X :o


Nice picks Daz, Os and Boomz. Wanted to pick Dench/Bourke but just...Couldn't not pick Hart :P

DazBurg

#173
November 11, 2011, 08:48:16 AM
Quote from: Sid on November 11, 2011, 08:37:48 AM
There's still an absurd amount of talent left in the 60s :-X :o


Nice picks Daz, Os and Boomz. Wanted to pick Dench/Bourke but just...Couldn't not pick Hart :P
thanks sid
yeah there was another guy i really wanted to get
and couldn't decide so looked at my team and decided what did i really need and a champion HBF is what i really needed
so made the choice for me ;)

ossie85

#174
November 11, 2011, 08:51:41 AM

Yup. Some of the 60s talent will still be available in the 70s! And some very nice picks :)

DazBurg

#175
November 11, 2011, 08:53:31 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 11, 2011, 08:51:41 AM

Yup. Some of the 60s talent will still be available in the 70s! And some very nice picks :)
yeah problem then is there is some great talent in the 70's aswell...lol

ossie85

#176
November 11, 2011, 09:10:13 AM

Keeping the draft moving.... As long as I don't pick a player who played in the 1960s, I can't steal from c4. Btw, all the Official Legends have been taken now!

Must admit, really struggled for the #1 pick in the 1970s. IMO, no real stand-out! Feeling a bit jipped lol

My next pick in the 1970s draft is:

Keith Greig

Keith Greig (born 23 October 1951) played on the wing for the Australian rules football North Melbourne Football Club from 1971 to 1985. He is considered as one of the most exciting players of the era, earning the nickname "Racehorse" because of his blistering speed on the field.

Greig was recruited from Brunswick in 1971. Greig captained the club from 1976 to 1979, and played a then club record 297 games. He represented Victoria 13 times in the state games, captaining the side once in 1978, and was named an All-Australian in 1983. He won the Brownlow medal twice, in 1973 and 1974.

He is a life member of North Melbourne, and was selected in the AFL's Team of the Century as a wingman. In 1996 Greig was inducted into the Australian Football Hall of Fame.

Brownlow Medal 1973, 1974
Syd Barker Medal 1980
North Melbourne Premiership Team 1975
North Melbourne Captain 1976â€"1979
State representative: 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984
State captain 1978
AFL Team of the Century Wing

297 games, 48 goals.



Colour!

B: - David Dench -
HB: Jock McHale, Ron Clegg, Wels Eicke
C: Keith Greig, Colin Watson, Jack Sheedy
HF: - Dick Lee -
F: Lou Richards, Bob Pratt, Des Fothergil
Foll: Roy Cazaly, Ron Barrasi jnr, Harry Collier
Inter: - - - -

DazBurg

#177
November 11, 2011, 09:23:22 AM
nice pick Ossman
i'll do mine later gotta leave for work
either way it gives C4 a chance to catch up

c4v3m4n

#178
November 11, 2011, 12:39:55 PM
Jeez, this was a very tough call. There were SIX outstandingly awesome players I had to choose from...

...it was an extremely tough choice, but in the end, only one person could be chosen.

Since I am still yet to obtain a ruckman, I thought I might as well take the best available.

And what a champion this player is. Just look at those sideburns.

Gary Dempsey



Playing career: 1967-1984 (Foot 1967-1978, NM 1979-1984)

Games: 329 (Foot 207, NM 122) Goals: 145 (Foot 106, NM 39)

Player honors: Brownlow Medal 1975, 2nd Brownlow Medal 1970; Foot best and fairest 1970, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977; NM best and fairest 1979; Foot captain 1971-1972, 1977-1978; W Bulldogs Team of the Century; All-Australian 1972, 1982; Victoria (22 games, 8 goals).

What this also fails to mention is that Dempsey has polled more Brownlow votes than any player in history, even 44 more than Matthews. He also managed thirteen top 10 finishes in the Brownlow!  :o

A true champion and legend of the game.

c4v3m4n's Titans

FB: Bernie Smith, Vic Thorp, Syd Coventry
HB: __________, Ted Whitten, Geof Motley
C: Vic Cumberland, __________, Stan Heal
HF: __________, Albert Thurgood, __________
FF: Jack Titus, __________, Horrie Gorringe
R: Gary Dempsey, Jack Dyer, Leigh Matthews
INT: Jack Mueller, __________, __________, __________

Having a quick look at the teams...its interesting to see how many teams are missing lots of backman....  ???

ossie85

#179
November 11, 2011, 12:48:56 PM

Yep. I reckon a few will be sending out an S.O.S. ;)
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